I've been reading dev diaries, and thus far let me tell you, that if this game is even half as good as it promise to be, it'll be a worthy successor to 'Shadow President'.>Conventional warfareMostly done Vicky 3 style for regular troops (NATO Counters clashing one another), but with special forces under your sole command, to whom you can assign to scout for your regular troops or do special objectives (Take the Pyongyang government hostage at the outbreak of the Korean war?) and also allowing you to set defensive and offensive plans ahead of war (see: Fulda gap and the NATO response plans)>Nuclear readinessTwo positions per Nuclear nation, both a 'public' position and a private one, that can swing from either the private being much more aggressive(Israel pretending to not have Nuclear weapons, until it did), or it being a bluff (Truman publicly overestimating the size of the US Nuclear Stockpile in order to force his way, until the soviet's first lightning.A few weeks ago, a release in 2023 was announced.Why have you not wishlisted this game yetand when it comes out, what agency are you gonna play?
>>1322735it's actually better than vic3 in that troop formations will actually be simulated on the map instead of being on a frontline stretched across an entire border which can get pretty fucking stupid if you're playing somewhere like russia or the usa
here's the mentionned 'nuclear readiness' scale.also, to quote the dev diary>[...] In addition to nuclear brinkmanship, you can turn on a realistic game rule that enables nuclear accidents akin to Stanislav Petrov case from 1983, ready to derail the game on every single tick of full MAD readiness.Considering the game promises a multiplayer component, I think it could be really interesting to have 4-5 players react to a launch from Kazakhstan which might or might not be a nuke, and the race against the clock that ensues.
Which one would I play first? Probably some smaller country to try and get a grasp on the mechanics. Maybe somewhere in Latin America?But once I've gotten a handle on things, definitely one of the colonial powers to try and keep the empire from falling apart as long as possible. Decolonization was a mistake.
>>1322735Shill thread, but a based one
>>1322735If I can't play as Nazi Germany then there is no point in playing.
>>1323156Game starts in 46, so no Nazi Germany.You never play as nations per se, either, but as their intelligence community.You could always play as a rogue intelligence agency trying to bring back the Reich though, could be a fun playthrough once you get the hang of things.
>>1322751Brazil or Argentina should both be fun games, both just at the end of a period of dictatorship, Brazilian former dictator Vargas was still around and would run for president again in 4/5 years and then kill himself, while Argentina was about to elect Peron.
>>1322735Out of all these "paradox killers" like Song of Eons or Grey Eminem or what have you, Espiocracy is the only one with a chance to actually be released in our lifetime.It has a unique concept and a set timeframe that the dev can actually work with instead of promising 800 years or literally infinite time like the SoE guys.
>>1323159Make an Antarctic Fourth Reich DLC.
>>1322745>it could be really interesting to have 4-5 players react to a launch from Kazakhstan which might or might not be a nukeI can tell you what will happen. Everybody will nook. Because there's nothing at stake unlike irl.
>>1322751Chile or Argentina probably for tutorial mode. Than Denmark or Sweden and than some big player like US, Soviets or Brits.
>>1323156Shitty false flag post.
>>1323156You can probably bring the Nazis back into power if you somehow maneuver around the CIA and KGB, who have vested interests in not seeing Nazism return.
>>1323358Your agents and infrastructure aren't indestructible. They can get destroyed by nukes too.I suppose you could send all your guys to a neutral country if you suspect a nuclear war is about to erupt, but then they wouldn't be doing any important intelligence work and you'll basically be starting from nothing in a world that'll be completely different compared to how it was before the bombs dropped.
>>1322735>BritainDropped, why can't any game call us "United Kingdom"
>>1323592Ackshually in the latest screenshot, it's called the UK
>>1322735I like what the dev has planned for the game and what he showed thus far looks decent, but I am expecting the game to come short of the plans he set out because they are just too ambitious.
>>1323604It's a shame it's not a globe map
>>1323779A shame indeed, but rather a 2.5D map than a full, bloaty 3D Mess
>>1323755Aside from the obvious ESL grammar and syntax issues, the simulation shit he seems to be trying to pull off seems incredibly promising.
>>1323794yeah that's cool, if the simulation is legit then this could be a beautiful mess/rough gem at the very least
>>1323163Grey eminence will probably be "released" next year as early access and stay that way for 4 years
Please let it be good please let it be good please let it be good
>>1323358>nothing at stakeRead the diary, retard.https://store.steampowered.com/news/app/1670650/view/6148001803562575666
>>1324305He clearly meant that whatever happens in game has no weight irl and therefore people won't necessarily act as they would if they were actual intelligence officers receiving intel of a nuclear launchBecause their decision will not and can not result in actual consequences
>>1322735>and when it comes out, what agency are you gonna play?UB (Urząd Bezpieczeństwa) and institute Christian Communism with Pax/Moczar if the game allows itBut realistically i dont have high hopes for this game, it promises a lot but i doubt it will fulfil said promises
>>1324706>get nuked>game bricks your pc
>>1323372>nazi fascismWhat the fuck im reading?
>>1324739now that's realistic gameplay
>>1324735>it promises a lot but i doubt it will fulfil said promisesOf all the unreleased not big studio strategy games, Espiocracy promises the leastIt is less than 80 years of contentHis new dev diary promising dynamic borders is somewhat of a red flag though
>>1324742>nazi fascismopposite of canzi fascism
Kinda hyped for this game honestly. The autistic level of detail that the dev diaries go into gives me hope.
>>1323372I wonder if you can let the attack happen to drive up support for the nazis again?
>>1324879Yeah if nothing else it's refreshing to see a dev that's clearly interested and well versed in a non-superficial level in the setting of his game
>>1324742I'm pretty sure when that dev diary was released, ideologies worked in an x-y format, hence the awkward wording
>>1324879>>1324995I really appreciate that he did start at the core concepts and developed them further and further instead of taking some Pdx game and making some bastardized semi-clone of that. Like Grey Eminence did for example.
As a space autist, if I can pull strings to keep space exploration going I'll be happy.
>>1325097what if you played as a third power (France, UK) and delayed the US Space race with your spies, in order to keep the space race even.
>>1322735Warfare is not like vicky3 at all. Don't mention it on the same page as that piece of filth.
>>1325272Vicky 3 is like the only example of a gsg with non-player-controlled warfare :(
>>1324824fucking based
>>1325248I presume if you sabotage it too hard the US might actually give up on it entirely and the Soviets, declaring themselves the winners, will also decide to stop caring about the space race, so you'd have to do it in a very balanced manner. Maybe you could encourage a third power like the UK or China to start up their own space program just to keep both the Americans and the USSR in the game for longer. At this point though it sounds like such wishful thinking of the complexity of the game that I'm afraid I'll just overhype myself and then feel disappointed.
>>1325415Let's be honest here, that's exactly what the dev intends to implement. If his simulation works as well as the dev diaries and the early pictures like that Cuban rebel ambush show, it'll be a serious GOAT contender.
>>1323604>european borders>pre yugo split >pre czechoslovak splitunf take me back
I think the first im gonna play is Italy, and attempt as much as possible to fuck up the brits and the French decolonization, so I get 'U.N. Mandates' over large swaths of Africa.
>>1325466tfw you accidentally strengthen pan-african nationalism with your heavyhanded colonial policing efforts
>>1325469if you can't beat them, join them.I bet you never expected Italy to be the founder/godfather of the African common market.
>>1325471Someone's taking "Sicilians are niggers" a little too literally.
>>1325475.... I mean ....
>>1325475>old joke about an American spying in RussiaOkay, fuck, that got me. Based dev.
>>1325908He's Polish, not just telling the joke with a hard r nigger probably means he's nearly an SJW
>>1326063>Polish Dev>Doing a Cold War game>with little OstalgieI think this might be a landmark game.
Very interesting. will follow up this game.
>>1326063I don't think you can use the n-word, hard or soft R in a steam announcement post.
I want this to succed and embarass paracucks so bad
>>1326150I didn't find any nigger in his discord eitherNot even a soft nigga
>>1326501soft niggas start some real shit
Not a dev diary, but an interesting insight into a developper's mind
>>1327464As it's been said, he's an absolute Cold War espionage nerd. This isn't a bad thing.
Isn't this the game where you can order operatives to do Religion of Peace maneuvers?
>>1328541I'm not entirely sure about that. The dev seems kinda moralfaggy for a guy who's making a game featuring the CIA and KGB.>b-but torture is suboptimal for getting intel!tell that to the people who tortured confessions outta nazis for the nuremburg trials lol
>>1328573>dev making a serious attempt instead of redditor memeshitIt's looking better and better by the second
>>1328573>torturing people so they tell you what you want to hear is a good way of gaining intellol
>>1328573Midwit
>>1328580Don't most people start saying anything to stop the pain?
>>1329080That's the point. They will say what they think you want to hear, not necessarily the truth.
>>1329081I'm only an amateur to spy fiction and such, so I don't know the real stuff (Beyond the fact that real spies don't look like spies at all, if they're doing their job), but isn't it almost better to catch the person, release them (preferably in a way they can say wasn't intentional), track them to where they go, and try to catch more fish or information in the new net?
>dev coups his own country in the AAR>we don't want memeruns and internal political interferencewhich one is it you polak fuck
>>1329094>Doesn't want memeruns and internal political interference>memerunsWho cares? People will do them anyway. People will mod them . They will make up their own rulesets full of memes.>internal political interferenceIsn't that what being a spy master is about? McCarthy tried to stop it and now we're seeing the results of decades of Soviet Infiltration.
>>1329143
>>1329147The one thing im unsure how he'll handle is that it's possible for other spy agencies to 'influence' your elections: If you can't fight back against foreign intelligence on the homefront, it feels like you're defenseless.
>>1329188I suppose you'll just have to run really active counterintelligence if funny pole man doesn't want you to be able to influence your own population and thus theoretically get fascists/nazis/other badguyists elected
>>1329147>Realistically, internal political interference of intelligence agencies is minimal
>>1329143>Who cares? People will do them anywayWhat I read from this is he won't do PDX-style "what if horse chancellor xddddddddd" and "ABRAHAM LINCOLN WAS JACK THE RIPPER?????" events which is good.
>>1329215I know right
>>1329147>Yeah, you're the deep state of sorts, the titular espiocracy. I think in the Kontrgerilla/Gladio sense, the game doesn't make it easy for the player - there's even a grand treason game over condition - but it's more of a challenge than a limit, you can pursue the goal of manipulating internal politics from the shadowsHe links this answer two comments up on his discordSounds like you can do it, just won't be easy like it would in a PDX game with a "press to coup" button
>>1329321Sounds good tbqh famlam. Altough imo player should be able to press internal matters as well.
>>1328580I might close my eyes if I end up with Jack Bauer as an agent.
>>1324706Maybe reaching the end of the game without a nuclear war should be fairly difficult and give the player some rewards/unlockables?
>>1329896Not launching a single nuke is how you unlock luigi.
For me, it's trying to unite all the Arabs under a single flag by taking over governments and spreading pan-arab propaganda
>>1329094what bothers me it how easy it lookedjust a few button presses then bam you're out of the soviet sphere without any immediate repercussions
>>1330064I'm assuming he used his dev powers AKA console commands to guarantee success so he wouldn't look like an ass and get caught trying to overthrow the government in his AAR
>>1329094>>1330064>>1330076Link?
>>1330177https://store.steampowered.com/news/app/1670650/view/3145200016641550661?l=english
>>1330064>After regrouping, they will surely attack us with the full espionage arsenal. We can already see the immediate danger: Slovak separatists who, with proper Eastern support, will not only break away half of our country but also form a communist echelon with personal connections to our land...Right at the end of AAR he's talking about possible Soviet retaliation, he just stopped playing
>>1330213I've read enough paradox dds to never believe any of these promised hypotheticals that never get delivered on release. Hopefully we will actually see these consequences in future dds, but until then I will remain sceptical.
>>1330016based, also it should be completely impossible to do without cheating
>>1330278But then what will the arabs have to unite against?
>>1330278And loose the common enemy to unite against? Are you daft? Existence of Israel is what's holding arabs mostly united since the cold war times.
>>1325471This time I will protect his smile
>>1330235next devdiary is supposed to be on the 14th.at this rate, this thread will still be alive by then
>>1330607Of course it will be alive, this isn't some shithole like /tv/ you fucking pedo, go look at feet somewhere else.
>>1330607His Discord FAQ has the next DD on the 10th
My favourite part was when the CIA said "a new age has dawned, the one of the Espiocracy" and then espionaged all over the place
19go back
2no u
>>1331819based
First playthrough will have to be helping Beria liberalize the USSR, I wonder if killing Stalin for a coup or waiting for his death to seize power from the politburo would be better
>>1332469>liberalizing the USSRAh, so you're speedrunning collapsing the Union?
>>1332473Based real socialism chad.
>>1322735>Play as Spain>destabilize Uk and Usa>help egypt and Syria against israel>no more WEF
Dev diary just released, sharing the most interesting half>It is said that a historical game becomes an alt-history game the second it is unpaused. Espiocracy, to pursue more interesting gameplay, takes it one step further and by default engages the engine of alternate history before the game is unpaused.>This is motivated mainly by the huge benefit of hindsight issues in the world of espionage. Take for instance very popular case of Kim Philby - at the start of the game, in 1946, he was a high-ranking member of MI6 and a Soviet spy. Featuring him precisely in this form creates an obvious degenerate strategy for at least two players, a move so obvious that it's a meaningless chore instead of genuine gameplay (British player should always chase Philby, Soviet player should always recall Philby before he's imprisoned).>The solution? Gradual randomization in the form of historicity setting.>10/10 corresponds to Philby in MI6 and all the other entities roughly the same as in history. It is still alternate history (some holes in historical records have to be filled) but players interested in historical accuracy will still be covered. While I believe that this type of gameplay has many disadvantages in the context of espionage, I'm a larger believer in giving players full customization of experience.>Every lower level gradually randomizes locations, dates, types, and entities themselves. This is implemented in a two-fold way - by actual randomization of the initial state and running a simulation of the game world before the start date, longer with a lower historicity level.>Default recommended level will be probably set to 8/10. This is where there is a high-ranking Soviet agent in the West but not Philby and not in MI6. It also corresponds to more scrambled plans of actors in the game world, slightly altered incoming political changes, or modified views, facilitated by approximately two months of pre-game simulation. (Final part in screencap)
The Diary just dropped, boys.https://store.steampowered.com/news/app/1670650/view/3647388792204849853?l=english
>>1333433Fuck. Beaten to it. At least I posted the link, I guess.
>>1333429that's cool, reminds me of the "turn 0" alternate starts in Twilight Struggle. always been a fan of slight counterfactuals in alt hist
>>1333429>>1333433God let me play this game
>>1333608>start the game at level 3 historicity>The allies got to Berlin first
>>1333874Sadly, the game only rewinds to Japan's surrender.
Man this game super autistic. Even the recruitment of an agent has a simulation breh.
>>1333433>Kōan: will biblically accurate angels be modded in as physical objects or mental concepts?I'm more and more convinced the dev is either a genius or an elaborate shitposter making a scam game
>>1333913Who's he scamming, exactly?Steam has a refund feature as the Superpower 3 developers learnt.
>>1333429So will rerolling the start until you get favourable resource deposits in your country at low historicity be the meta play?
>>1333913It'll end up being one of three things>vaporware>shit>the DF of grand strategy
>>1334065>the DF of grand strategyI hope not. I don't want my money going towards funding blm
>>1334074ABOLISH INCARCERATION
>>1334113>National Salvation Union/Memory/NBP/Russian Marcqrd on these?
>>1334115I'm assuming various schizo nazbol types spawned by the collapse of the Soviet Union from my cursory look into the National Salvation Front .
>>1334119>Also there is a banger song about themBased GrOB appreciator
>>1334115National salvation military council.
>>1334156
>>1334119>they still run a paramilitary organization in DonbasAre they a honeypot now? Seems unlikely for someone to fight for the people that banned their group.
>>1324880I had never heard of this before. That's insane. Strange that it said "a nation for a nation" when they received a new nation out of the deal.
>>1333429>>1333435>>1333608>>1333874>>1333906In his discord he accepted a suggestion around being able to have specific things toggleable in the historic build up so it might be possible to have some pre-german surrender things changeable, but i think changing the post-war europe too much would be a mistake as that would largely alter the whole premise of the cold war.I think its a good platform for some "what-if" alternate ww2 outcomes from axis victory, negotiated peaces at various points etc. Having something like the hoi4 thousand week reich mod in this game with its mechanics would be a good shout as youd be able to show a 3 way cold war between the allies, axis and soviet remnants plus the internal axis struggles between like Romania and Hungary, Germany and Italy, and then the internal struggles within those nations. Assuming the dev isnt a snake oil salesman the platform sounds like great design with a lot of story-telling capability. Dorf Fort but for spooks.As for me though, these are probably my first playthroughs:1. France - have the OAS coup succeed, fight against decolonisation, neuter germany forever, win the suez crisis, make france the 2nd power in the west; or2. Yugoslavia - help greek communists win, dominate the balkans, make italy red, survive
>>1333429> set historicity to low> game starts in the middle of Operation Unthinkable
For me its restoring hungarian borders
>>1334119why are post-soviet russian politics so kino and why did we get the most boring possible variant possible
>>1334892>set historicity to even lower>game starts in the middle of Operation Unthinkable after the Soviets got nukes
>>1336232>Nuclear plans of the first decades called for a few weeks of rolling nuclear bombings
for me it's trying to keep Stalinism going after the big man kicks it
>>1336949with Beria you might be in an amazing position to do so.
>>1336949for me it's trying to keep the Gold Standard going in the USA
>>1334892> set historicity to low> game starts in the middle of Operation Downfall
>>1333912can I only recruit big booba women to seduce other agents?
>>1337192>Operation DownfallJapan Surrendering is the point of divergence so this can't happen
>>1337218possibly rename them to bond girl names too'Pussy Galore'
>>1337251what about Operation Updog?
>>1337307Who the fuck is Steve Jobs?
>>1337385Ligma balls.
>>1337109Beria was a liberal reformer in his actual ideology, Molotov was the rightful stalinist heir
>>1337307What about operation sneed?
>>1337307I'm more of an Operation Red Dog man.
tf is you niggas talkin about
>>1337971noooo he can't be liberal he was a bad evil man
>>1338199Shut the fuck up tranny
>>1337971Right. Is that according to Nikita?
>>1329215Are the dev russians or chinese?
>>1338565It is a Polish guy
>>1338505>>1338328Source The Thaw: Soviet Society and Culture during the 1950s and 1960sBeria did>stopped torture in the nkvd>released 1mn prisoners (or announced their release)>axed infrastructure projects>reduced the nkvd's economic powers and governance of the gulags>removed russians from nkvd posts in the SSRs and replaced them with locals>expanded the autonomy of the SSRs at the expense of the RSFSR and the CentreHe was a slimy proto-Gorbachev revisionist. Molotov was the hero we needed
>>1338328>>1338505He was an opportunist, they were all tired of Stalin and felt the need for a change. He wanted to seize power by becoming the reformer.
>>1338802Molotov was a cuck
>>1339850No u
>>1338802Sounds based. Imagine being cucklinist cringelord kek
>>1339997>laying the groundwork for the collapse of the ussr is based
>>1340001>retard thinks shitlinism was sustainable after georgian subhuman's deathlollmao
>>1340009I don't get people who single out random ethnicities as subhuman
>>1340014>random ethnicities>literally his idol'stankies are dumb
>>1340018In the end, Stalin was on the right path considering liberalising the USSR just made it fall apart.That's the crux of the issue.
>>1340018>idol'sStupid ESL
>makes retarded second-world nationalists seethe>makes tr*ts seethe>makes liberals seethe>saved europe from the nazis>was going to deport every treasonous counterrevolutionary you-know-who to bumfuck siberia>killed millions of communists and/or ukroids>made people literally vanish from photographs like he didn't give a fuckayup, I'm thinking he was based
>>1340023There was no going back after WW2, but I sustain that Lenin's NEP was sustainable, and while not leading to 'real socialism', would've led to a fairer society and avoided the stalinists excess
This sounds like something that the TNO devs should make a mod for, considering it has the features they need
>>1340023The USSR collapsed because of Russian incompetence, they could have maintained communism and it would have collapsed anywayChina liberalized with Deng and is now contending the number one spot with the US
>>1340201This sounds like something the TNO devs should kill themselves
>>1340030>literally his idol's [ethnicity]You are illiterate
>>1340210Based on the prognosis it's only a matter of time
>>1340030lmao look like you we're the esl all along
>>1340252>look like>you we'reexcellent b8
>>1340201fuck off, looks like a fine mod for a fantasy world like Arcanum
>>1340201>alt space race shit>dynamic decolonization>simulation of ethnic discrimination and compatibility >espionage-centric gameplay>ideologies changing over time>development of NBC weapons >support for map changes in game allegedly, like the Aral Sea shrinkingYou're correct.
>>1340201Would have infinitely more gameplay than TNO, which they wouldn't make at a gunpoint.
>>1340201What the Tranny New Order devs need is a visual novel engine
>>1340380TNO literally has more unique mechanics than vanilla hoi4
>>1340611Yes but they fit badly on HoI4, see how they try to rewrite every mechanic of the base game in a different way. Even wars are kinda railroaded through modifiers and decisions. TNO should play on a different engine, it would fit better even in a narrative game with some interactive mechanics added for politics/economy/war
>>1340201I wouldn't want them anywhere near this game.
>>1340741Like TNO but in the form of Suzerain?
>>1341538Exactly what I was thinking, maybe with deeper economy and war
>>1341763>What is Ostalgie
>>1342145I wouldn't call Ostalgie's economy deep.
Xcom mod when
>>1343794Depends on how moddable it is
>>1343794We're more likely to get Xenonauts.
>>1324742Unironically dropping the game because of this. How can such a politically illiterate dev be trusted to make a good politics simulator?
>>1345771don't let the door hit you on the way out chud
>>1322735Is there any proper gameplay footage out yet, or is it still all just dev diaries?
>>1345771>>1324742you are straight up retarded >italian fascism is the same as hitler's fascism
>>1345771That was from a very early dev diary.If it isn't just called Nazism or National Socialism when the game releases I'll be surprised.
Can't wait to Chernobyl every single Soviet nuclear plant
>>1340190>>1340209>>1340018>>1340009>>1339997>unironically being a revisionistD E N O U N C E D
>>1346816ywnbaw
>>1347200trannies are the original revisionists. Ywnbaw
>>1340291Sounds like it would be a kino setting, wasn't there some big secret conspiracy in the game too?
>>1347340Yes and it was extremely antisemitic.
>>1340032Its crazy that it took people so long to notice how based he was really.
>>1323372Who would be in charge of the nsdap at that point? Would it be possible to save Göring if you are quick enough?
I get the feeling Nazi Germany will be the Byzantium of this game.
>>1323592I prefer Britain to 'uckh' desu. Britain and northern ireland would be ideal.
>>1347889Hess?
>>1347889The Nuremberg trials are simulated in game.I wonder if the game will also simulate the fact it was basically a giant sham and shitting all over western jurisprudence.
>>1345932You nust be a dumb fuck american. Fascism is not nazism and nazism is not fascism
>>1347985He was clearly trying to imply that's what the other posters believed
>>1346816>when even bugman is smarterkill yourself
>>1347985Nazism is a subdivision of broader ideology of fascism. But according to jannies discussing cold war politics on a game about cold war is off topic so whatever
>>1348290The jannies hate this board.
>>1348219>fails to notice single son policy lead to unbalanced m/f ratio >proceed to fuck up the demography for generations
>>1348290>Nazism is a subdivision of broader ideology of fascism.false, they both evolved independently from socialismthere are overlaps, but it's just convergent evolution
fascism is nazism is communismnothing lefties hate more than other lefties
>>1349392>prevented untold millions of chinese from existingthat's the single most based thing he did
I am going to undermine decolonization efforts so much guys
>>1349726Based.How about playing as South Africa n intelligenceand trying to make sure Grand Apartheid is implemented successfully?
Will this game let me build up a weapons industry then spark conflicts in random parts of the world then make profits by selling to both sides?
>>1350221Most likely, yes. I'm certain the dev mentioned, uh, modern CIA styles of making additional income when you don't have enough funding from the government.
New dev diary.https://store.steampowered.com/news/app/1670650/view/3638382860931831196
>>1350248>machine learningthe absolute madman
>>machine learning>the absolute madman
>>1350884Remember when 4chan used to make actual funny, original content instead of just tracing people? I remember.
>>1350902https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Jm3Tq_q4yU
>>1350902That was before he was born.
Let's be honest the only countries that can make decent strategy games about the Cold War are the US and Russia.Everyone else is either incompetent, doesn't understand what it was all about, or wants to push some sort of stupid message about one of the sides being good or bad which is irrelevant for a strategy game on this topic.
>>1350973Russia can't make any games.
>>1351019lol
>>1350973>Let's be honest the only countries that can make decent strategy games about the Cold War are the US and Russia.They haven't made a single good one yet>Muh twilight struggleFuck off faggot, it's not good
>>1350248Some of his dev diaries are just nerd ramblings about some shit without actually demonstrating any game mechanics or how these machine learning concepts will have an impact in game. Really makes me think that the game is in pre-pre-pre-alpha when so much still seems conceptual rather than in development. The only thing he has is a map, half finished UI and seemingly an event scriptor that kind of reminds me of a dorf fort battle log. I want this game to work so bad but he's probably going to be spitting out devdiaries in 3 years time about the logic and nuance behind picking a script font
>>1350973Except US and Russia fits in on all the points you made after, you drooling retard.
>>1350973ameritard moment
>>1337971Died in 1986 too. What a life that would have been.
>>1351561Twilight struggle is made by Bri'ish fellas anyway, I think.But it is good. easily my favorite boardgame.
Fuck you.*saturation nukes north korea*
Think of all the enhanced interrogation you can do on commies
lmaoing at the nigga in the discord who thinks ending apartheid should be a goal for south africabro look at modern SA, it's a failure condition if anything
>>1357426I tried joining the Discord, they all seem like insufferable neoliberal fags arguing about Russia and Ukraine instead of talking about the game.
>>1358214Your mistake was straying outside of the game-related channels. Even if they won't shut up about wanting to play Andorra.I'm going to influence Franco to invade that worthless piece of land every game if I can out of spite.There's a reason I have all the other channels like le four coups and counting muted
>>1358214Just use discord to read shit the dev posts in general and ignore everything and everyone else
>>1359205basado
Kill all commiesI will induce a Macarthur lead coup to nuke Moscow and help the KMT to put an end to the communist threat once and for all
>>1349405You are fucking retarded. Nazism is German Fascism. Every Fascist ideology is tailor made for the country using it but they all descend from Italian fascism
So, who's going to be the first to speedrun turning America into a fascist state with the revelation you can recruit agents with specific views so you can try to exclude communists, or hire only nationalists for example
>>1358214>arguing about Russia and Ukraine instead of talking about the gamethis is the whole internet nowadays
>>1352018except in that dev diary he tells you; the machine learning is used to develop the ai. will it be better than paradox's ai? probably.
>>1360961Im gonna do that but with USSR
>>1360501>not nuking the country that funded the bolshevik revolution (aka USA)good goyim
>>1363716is this person a bot? why would the first thing to come to mind be this.
>>1363716average lefty is that stupid, and that's even considering how braindead mutts are
>>1363716kek
>>1363716I can't distinguish if this is a subtle joke, or if this dude is genuinely retarded, or a bot.
>>1363716I will focus on MLK too :^)
>>1363716The onions oozes from the screen
>>1363794>>1363797>>1364048>>1364135The official discord is absolutely filled with naive retards like this.They'd never make it in IRL espionage I tell you.All I hope is that the dev isn't influenced by them and trying to do internal manipulation to liberate the heckin african-americinos in the 50s or whatever can backfire horribly>push for the strongest civil rights shit possible>your agency gets quota'd to have 50% black agents>hilarity ensues
>>1363716i'm gonna spite this guy by trying to force the government to remove as many rights as possible for as many people as possible
>>1351561Twilight Struggle is fantastic and my number one wish is a grand cold war strategy game which bases itself on it when it comes to influence, coups, and game progression.
>>1363716>>13641772 flavours of retardthe liberal onion crammer and the seething chud westfaller
>>1364365can you say that again without fifteen buzzwords
>>1358214There's not much to talk about considering there's no demo or gameplay footage out yet. I was considering going through that server at some point to see what books I can find about the cold war there, but I now feel like if I just read a ton of Wikipedia articles I'll likely know pretty much everything that everyone else on that server knows.>>1361769East slavs are one of the largest populations on the internet (the second most-spoken language on Steam used to be Russian before Steam started having service in Winnie The Pooh China), so it's understandable why every large place online is full of shit flinging about the war right now.
>>1364369the discord user is retarded because they think the CIA can be "the good guys"(You) are retarded because your objection to this is "black peepo are dum dum"
>>1365402I was just saying it'd be funny if there could be unintended consequences for your attempted do-gooding. That's all, retard-kun.
>>1363716good thing the progressive rainbow CIA was there to ...focus on MLK, and stop the evil commies from uhhh supporting the Klan?
>>1365414Me when I bring the American Nazi Party to power in order to accelerate the dialectical contradictions of capitalism and force a collapse or something I definitely don't want to see millions of corpses
>>1365417i feel like it would be pretty much an instant cold war victory since amerimutts would start slaughtering each other and lose all international influence
>>1365414> the charges, officer?
>>1365414The only interaction KKK and USSR had was when the first suggested usibg niggers instead of dogs for space exploration>>1363347I'm going to collapse USSR early just so I can bring unironic monarcho-communists to power
>>1365442lmfao, amazing
>>1330064just wait until you read about albania, romania and chinaturns out it's much easier to leave the soviet sphere than the american sphere, in the american sphere the responsible commit suicide way before they even get the chance
>>1365495USSR intervened with the military only when a satellite wanted to abandon communism
>>1365495tankie cope
I'm starting to get suspicious of this game, a lot of posts talking about ideas but no videos or screenshots showing those ideas implemented.(pic maybe related)
>>1365537He's got an AAR dev diary
>>1365537Yeah it's really funny to see the same people who shit on GE for being vaporware praise this as something that's definitely going to happen, while both games are essentially the same so far. A lot of promises, but no proof to back it up.
>>1365650Because this is trying to do something different entirely, while GE is a blatant attempt to mash up EU/Vicky/Hearts of IronPlus, GE wants you to pay them money via patreon which is always sussy
>>1365650There are two problemsfirst the super-ambitious mechanics and simulations must be doable and work properly and play well during a typical gameplay. Second, it has to be a fun gameplay.Take vicky 3 for an example where the mechanics don't work and even if they did the core gameplay loop is boring af
>>1365652>Because this is trying to do something different entirely, while GE is a blatant attempt to mash up EU/Vicky/Hearts of IronThat really has nothing to do with whether the game will get released or not. If anything it gives GE an edge, since it is trying to partially replicate already proven and existing mechanics.>Plus, GE wants you to pay them money via patreon which is always sussyTrue.
>>1365650GE has massive timeframe and a shitload of bloat, like women pops
>>1365665There's a reason Vicky, EU and HoI are separate games, though. Also, GE already seems to have some retarded design decisions that I hope will be changed, but might not be.
GE will never fucking work without a serious rise and fall mechanic, after a few decades of expansion ther will be an unstoppable blob in every region that will snowball out of control for the rest of the game
>>1365710they fixed that in mayo by making the AI never change their borders even after 300 years
>>1365699Actually, is there a particular rrason paradox can't combine hoi warfare, vicky economy and ck charaxters in one game? >>1365710Those mechanics (for player) will be artificial as fuck. Player has the advantage over historical figures of being the same person with consistent goals. Hard to represent your ruler suddenly being more intrested in building palaces or court games when you just wanted to conqureEven if you can then player can just organize a revolution/coup/assassination and ditch a shit ruler since we playing as spirit of a nation
>>1365699>GE already seems to have some retarded design decisions that I hope will be changedAny examples?>>1365781>paradox can't combine hoi warfare, vicky economy and ck charaxters in one gameLack of understanding from the developers for these systems and an inability to make it run with that many calculations and actors?East vs West was basically HoI3 with vicky industry and they never managed to make it work properly before the plug got pulled.
>>1365825The fact it takes an entire month to move goods by land between provinces, among others.
>>1365825>Lack of understanding from developersBut they have enough understanding to make them run separately>an inability to make it run with that many calculations and actors?Yeah, lag is the bane of paradox games. Maybe when hardware improves it'll be possible
>>1365895victoria 2 is much more complex than any other modern paradox game yet runs finethrowing hardware at the problem doesn't change the fact its not white people coding anymkre
>>1365710>GE will never fucking work without a serious rise and fall mechanicthey did promise to have exactly that though, we will see how it will work out
>>1365699>There's a reason Vicky, EU and HoI are separate games, though.Ehh, not really (aside from paradox's incompetence)? The core Vicky2 POP and economic mechanics could easily carry an early modern era game as well as a post 1936 game with some adjustments. In fact there are mods for both. Actually it would simulate those eras even better then EU4 or Hoi4 apart from the ww2 warfare part.
>>1366043Stick your POP shit into your ass and don't pollute other games with it, please.
>>1366046>pop badt. runs a bloatmod like H(P)(F)M and is surprised when the game runs like shit
>>1366046>NOOO I HATE SIMULATION, GIVE ME MORE MANA JOHAN-SAMA
>>1366057Pop systems aren't proper simulation you brainwashed, cum gargling quadruple nigger.
>>1366061Okay then, what is a "proper simulation" according to you?
>>1366061>simulating population demographics isn't real simulationAh yes, I want Geopolitical Simulator tier meme demographics. Give me ethnicity pie charts or give me death.
>>1366061is this the new paradrone psyop?
>>1366070Surely not the V2 model.
>>1366128It is a simulation. It simulates demography and society through abstract POP units.As an example if you want to make a very militarized society in Victoria you would focus on soldier POPs sacrificing other jobs and build a large army. As opposed to EU4 where you just have militarization mana with Prussia and it allows you to punch above your league by pushing a magic button to increase it.
>>1366128So you are kvetching but you literally can't name anything better.
>>1323156I believe that if the game is good and catches enough attention, a what if Cold War depicting an Axis victory or survival in WWII might be one of the first mods we could see.>Inb4 Trannie New Order moves to the game
>>1366694TNO unironically fits like a glove for this game. Abwehr/RnD, CIA and Kenpetai simulator Play as the intelligence agency of one of the Afrikan RKs and try to neutralise Huttig or at least hold off the collapse of the Reichstaat as long as possible
>>1366694Making a TrooNO mod on this game would result in a game and not a visual novel, so I doubt the trannies would want to move to Espiocracy
>>1365537There's an aar, and there are updates on a github with some of the changes.I doubt hooded horse would sponsor this if they weren't given any proof that it exists or that it would be in development hell forever.
>>1366043Seems obvious the reason Hoi exists and doesn’t have pops is so Paradox doesn’t have to simulate genocide
>>1367252>I doubt hooded horse would sponsor this if they weren't given any proof that it exists or that it would be in development hell forever.This is a point Grey Eminem fags don't understand. Espiocracy has a publisher, GE doesn't.
>>1366694>trannieWhy do illiterate sheepfucking ESLs constantly make this typo? We need literacy tests pronto on this website to filter out users from low IQ countries who are perma obsessed with faggots and trannies
>>1367452Because I couldn't give a fuck about a language made for faggots which was born the way it is solely because the floating turd they call an island was cucked by several invading populations in a row thus generating a bastardized Latino-German language which already by itself doesn't keep tabs with its writing system because even the fucking anglos can't figure it out or even just know how to write properly for that matter.Cry about it Nigel, I don't give a fuck about your comical language or your pozzed culture, you trannie.
>>1367468Incredibly generic and unfunny post even for an /int/ crosboarder who found this website a week ago linked on EpicFunnyMemes.br
>>1367468prod an esl and they respond with basically the text equivalent of a shitty polandball comic
>>1367470I've been around since day one of /vst/, keep dilating but do it quietly please.
>>1367473>I’ve been around for less than 3 years plus I’m obsessed with tranniesYeah we can tell lol
>>1367473great meme, my fellow ifunny sir!
>>1367477You're the one who took offence when you saw yourself called out. It's clear where you got stung, why would I have to call you anything else than a biological male.
>>1367481Nobody except you ESLs care about the tranny shit dude we basically would rather have the 4chan equivalent of irl migrants (dumb, noisy, non-white) integrate a bit better or just not come here at all
>>1367470>>1367472>>1367477>>1367478>>1367483I'm sad your ban expired.Now you're free to shit up the board and turn every single thread into a fucking flame war. Horray.
Also Poland is LE BASED now to you fucking faggots considering how much support it's giving to the Ukraine so you need to find a new bogeyman country to hate
>>1367484>ESL doesn’t know about how trivial it is to evade bans, even accidentally>ESL gets upset when having their whiteness credentials jokingly questioned>ESL cops out and leaves, probably after mass reportingWhy do you crybabies come to this website if you’re just incapable of fitting in? Just the most weird, thin skinned, whinging wave of migrants who ever came here.
>>1367486kekkk based russia fighting the globalist homo tranny agenda with their skyrocketing AIDS, domestic violence, and drug use rates
lol the little homo left. probably le 47%ing rn
>>1367483tranny spotted
>>1367488>YOU'RE THE ONE WHO DOESN'T FIT INHow come you disappeared for so long, ESLanon?I haven't seen your somehow both pretentious and seething "I am elite because I was born in America, I am above everyone and you are poor and dogshit stupid unless you are part of my club" posting style for ages.
>"I am elite because I was born in America, I am above everyone and you are poor and dogshit stupid unless you are part of my club"couldn’t have put it more succinctly
>>1367518Which is funny, because Americans are the absolute fucking dumbest people in all the Anglosphere if you don't count countries in Sub-Saharan Africa we colonised.
>>1367513Hello ESL
>>1367520>irrelevant poles and nonwhite sudacas claiming credit for le epic colonisation you’re not white or european lol sorry
>>1367530what kind of retarded ESL tier mspaint copy and pasting is this lmao
>>1367527I'm English but okay>muh sudacasmy brother in anonymity your country is going to be mexico norte by the end of the century if not soonerAlso, very epic ignoring the rest of my post to hyperfixate on a specific point, very autistic behaviour tbqh
>>1367536oh it’s the autistic 14 year old brexiteer who once replied with “im not telling you my age” when they were rhetorically asked if they were underage
>>1338802>Molotov was the hero we neededThe only "hero" you needed, and in fact still need is a nuclear holocaust.
>>1367533My man, you literally made an mspaint collage of LE EBIN OWNED ESLs, lemme go find it>>1367537Here's a hint, you're literally 10 years off
>>1367544you reply every time with “a-actually I’m t-ten years older” too lmao. real question, do you have learning difficulties and do you still live with your mummy?
>>1367545Autism is a given, considering where we're posting, isn't it? Also, no.Do you actually play strategy games?
>>1367545I don't know who you are nor what issue are you suffering from but I understand why anons single you out and why you were banned.
Imagine being so bad at shitposting that people instantly recognize you without a tripcode.
>>1367546Lmao Dergimil is that you
>>1367548>anons nobody talks like this except 9gag ESLs excruciatingly trying to fit in
>>1367530Butthurt esls kek
amazing thread, very on topic
>>1367618Do you actually play strategy games?If no, maybe >>>/b/ would be more towards your speed.>>1367622Does the idea of not fitting in scare you? That seems to be a topic you're particularly obsessed with.
>>1367634It was on topic until le perpetually pissed at slavs man showed up.>captcha: KKK24J
>>1367636Derg is that actually you, pissing myself laughing that you’re still a 80 IQ typical Daily Mail reading Britfuck working in a warehouse after all these years
>>1367638nobody is actually made butthurt by retarded slavs, you’re giving yourself way too much credit. it is simply too much fun bullying entire nations of mentally disabled peasants who only recently were allowed access to the internet
It's just one guy playing both sides of the argument right? I can't imagine someone actually replies to ESL autist, certainly not for over 20 replies
>>1367252>I doubt hooded horse would sponsor this if they weren't given any proof that it exists or that it would be in development hell foreverYeah, especially since it's an unknown solo dev there's no way Hooded Horse would have published without there being at least a convincing prototype. I'm sure there's still a lot to flesh out though
>>1367751Who the fuck is derg, seriously
>>1367622I'm sure you fit in so well here. What's the last strategy game you played?
>>1367753>I am not mad, you areLmaoyes I am ESLyes I will butcher your shitty languageNo, I will not stop postingYes, Vic 3 is shitNo, you will never be a woman
>>1367841based, fuck those snotty angl*id cucks
>>1367841>Yes, I am an ESL>Yes, I am a nonwhite >Yes, I came here from 9gag>Yes, I have low IQftfy
Esto juego es uno scammo como lo juego de mierda medieval
>>1367764ESLs are retarded butthurt niggers who live to report posts that mildly make fun of their subhuman infested shithole countries
>>1367764Every single message from >>1367452 to the bottom was actually just mine.
>>1367975Billy, this is the fiftieth time you've told the class about the ESL conspiracy to get you banned from 4chan.
>>1367967terminally boring /int/ tier "banter"
>>1367967>Mutt calling anyone non-whiteCome on, post that general mutton quote
>>1368063dont worry, he's going to make some quip that's only really applicable to poles as if being raped by the germans wouldn't be a mark of honour but then again his worldview follows no sane rules, and likely has no idea what his ancestry actually isid fucking laugh if he was descended from polish immigrants or something matrilineally
>>1368063>low class slav prole with an ancestral history of constant rape from invading armies calling anybody a mutt
>>1368067lmao you are so nervestruck by the bit about your shitty village getting gangbanged constantly by all comers
>>1368069You seem to be mistaken, my ancestors did the raping
>>1368070Why do you assume everyone who disagrees with you is polish?This is some /pol/tier everyone-i-dont-like-is-a-jewish-tranny-nigger type shit.
>>1322735>EspiocracyNo release date yet, its like VTMBL2 "Coming Soon" kind of game?
He's posted another devdiary which is another word salad. This yime around he's taken a hit from the bong and written, "dude like, what if characters dont stay in 1 place all the time!"Not a screenshot, gif, code or anything like actual work or progress to show off. Just words. This nerd should just write a book.
>>1368935How much of this abandonware is still in the conceptual stage? Sounds like the guy is just blogposting about the game he wants to make not the game he is making. No proof of concept aside from that one AAR dev diary and the cuban ambush one
>>1367545Anon... you are losing an argument to a fucking four year old... just log off, man
>>1368084Because he's unironically schizo.
>>1368314
>>1369024He's not even coding the game hes just blogging about what he wants in the game. There wont even be a pre-alpha demo until 2026, contingent entirely on him hiring programmers
>>1369139ah so it's another ideas guy game made by someone who doesn't even know how to code kek
>>1369140Go and read the dev diaries theyre all just word salad wank about all these great concepts and mechanics the game will have without demonstrating or describing how they will be / are being implemented. Its honestly a shock he hasnt asked for patreon paypigs so at least he's not a total scam artist
>>1369139>>1369140>>1369149Screenshots next dev diary, paradrones
>>1369175Yeah graphic design is my passion too, doesnt mean theres anything actually there that works.
>>1368963Vaporware is the term you are looking for.
>>1369024Fucking hell...
>>1322735>368 replies>Just a few images
>>1369297Yeah, why doesn't everyone post screenshots of their campaigns form the game that is not released yet. That's really strange...
So what's with all the concern trolling in thos thread?It's not like he's got a Patreon or anything.
>>1369318Is any skepticism "concern trolling" now? Is this your first overly-ambitious indie project? Maybe the dev could calm some of that down if he actually showed a working prototype, instead of just blogging about all of these complex systems that are totally going to be in the final product, pinky swear.
>>1369301Yeah, exactly! What the FUCK is this thread discussing?There IS NO GAMENO GAMEWHAT ARE YOU MORONS TALKING ABOUTWHY DO YOU COME TO THIS THREAD PRETENDING THERE IS A GAMETHERE IS NO GAME00 GAME NOTHING TO TALK ABOUTN O T H I N GNO THING
>>1369318TORtanic ruined 4chan.
>>1369517TOR?
There's a GitHub channel on his discord, unless the guy is faking that, he's constantly doing PRs in the projectI also can't imagine Hooded Horse doesn't have someone involved in seeing actual progressI can't tell if these people are paradrones or Grey M&M's devs coping, seething and dilating all over the thread
>>1369301This is the point retard. It's a game that isn't released and probably the developers don't even know how this game should be. All i am reading in this thread are ideas from other games and player's idea, a discussion about ESLs and other discussions about politic. It's pathetic how devs are acting it's a fucking blog this gameI mean....>>1369024
>>1369620Every hooded horse game is vaporware. Not a single one has made decent progress in development since that boomer bankrolled them. Theyre just swindling him out of his retirement money
>>1369517>everyone who doesn't 100% buy in to the hype extremely ambitious indie game with no proof of a working product is just holding out for a TORtanic
>>1369785Cope, seethe and dilate paradrone
>>1367468This is an extremely off-target description of anglodese.
>>1369932Dev, go and actually code something instead of shill and tickle the nipples of your fanboys on discord
the word fans mean simping for some dev or some tech company. You are basically the retard that pay for every garbage your favourite company® does
>>1370128Schizophrenic tranny
>>1370693Stupid niggerfaggot
>>1370755You will never be a woman, sorry to tell you
>>1370774I know, because i will be your step dad. At the beginning your real dad was mad but he is a cuck so now it's everything ok, son
>>1370693>>1370755>>1370774>>1371042get a room you faggots before i have you both blackbagged t. espiocracy pro
>>1371047Shut up niggerlover
the one mod I'd want is 'Fleming's legacy'>at the start of the game, a bond movie is selected>the year that movie comes out, an event chain regarding the events of it is triggered>failing the event chain has a high chance of destabilizing the world.picture it, massive Gold Krash in 1964 as Fort Knox's reserve become irradiated, British nuclear network compromised in 1981 by leaking of the Trident system to the soviet, Sino-British War over false premises in 1997
>enter thread>some game discussion>turns into "le mutt" and "le nigger" shitflinging contestIn all that's fucking holy, discuss the game. I don't care about much racial statistics or whatever CIA slop you're on so that the feds can justify banning more and more guns and putting in more and more surveillance. Go the fuck back to /pol/ and stop shitting up an already shitty thread.
>>1369785>what is Terra Invicta>what is Against the Storm
>>1371241>>turns into "le mutt" and "le nigger" shitflinging contestLitterally where?
>>1369356So why are you here? If you despise this thread so much?
>>1371319>just let us be retarded in peaceno
>>1371241>justify banning more gunsracial crime statistics have never been used for gun control, it's all kneejerk THINK OF MUH CHILLUNS after every single mass shootingTHINK ANON THINK
>>1371355simple solution for you anon.
>>1371439Thanks
>>1371463no problem
>>1371623Lol suck my dick
>Dev is using AI to gather information on historical figuresSo, how many people are going to have stunted personalities because the AI is literally not allowed to talk about them and instead just shits out a single sentence about them being racist?
>>1369356>>1371319>>1371355>>1371439>>1371463>>1371623>>1372252
>>1372791>You'd be able get unlimited funding by pretending to be Obi-Wan Kenobi
>>1372791He's not using chatGPT, he's using straight up GPT3, raw GPT3 is not stunted like chatGPT, you can try it yourself on openAIs website.GPT4 might have been lobotomized though
>>1329143>McCarthy tried to stop it and now we're seeing the results of decades of Soviet Infiltration.QRD?
>>1349726You shouldn’t, see France.
>>1367468Basted
>>1371439>just let us be retarded in peaceno
>>1373276In the early 1950's WW2 vet and relatively new U.S. Senator McCarthy warned of Communist and Soviet infiltration in Hollywood and throughout the U.S. government including the military and managed to hold hearings on the matter that brought in a bunch of Hollywood celebs and government officials for questioning. In response media launched a massive smear campaign against him now we know the media campaign was also helped by the FBI and was made a laughing stock. He ended up being censured by the Senate and they collectively ignored him from then on out. He ended up becoming massively depressed and suicidal, developed a alcohol and morphine addiction and died a few years later in 1957 I think.60+ years later and based on documents that have since been de-classified it turned out McCarthy was mostly right about a lot of institutions and people he was accusing, he was just the wrong guy to send the message and wasn't aware of nor prepared for the FBI and media campaign to undermine his whole push.
I just realized that this is the perfect game for a Person Of Interest mod.
>>1374962But why would FBI want Soviets to succeed?
>>1376566They didn't, he was aiming too high and pissed people in the Eisenhower cabinet
>>137496213 year old political compass memers say the wildest shit lol
>>1376611retard
>>1374962>Communist and Soviet infiltrationUhhh, USA helped funding the bolshevik revolution and trotskyism, further helped Soviets to industrialize, communism was always american end goal, it only needed a population too stupid to see the communist aka american subversion.
>>1376566They wanted their "commies" to win not Soviets.
>>1376663I mean you can even see it nowadays with this "equity" shit the US government-corporation axis is trying to forcememe upon both its own population and the rest of the west.It's just communist bullshit.If you look at what they are actually saying about forcing equal outcomes, it is just the most basic Marxist doctrine applied to ethnic matters instead of economic ones.Meanwhile, there are no calls to strip the rich of their wealth, which is the one part of communism that might actually make sense at this point in time.
>>1376566they didn't (sorry schizos), but it was hugely embarrassing for them and the government since there were a lot of communist fellow traveler leftovers from WWII who had kept their positions up to that point
>>1376667Except it's the part that doesn't make sense, because if those people don't get money for taking big risks, they won't take risks and industry won't flourish.The Soviet Union managed to build a large industrial base because it was 'build or die' when the Krauts were coming.China worked out because it realized 'wait a minute, we'll just run our businesses in a capitalist fashion but still pretend to be commies'.
>>1376566FBI and the intel community exist to make sure the U.S. government continues to shovel money their way and connected politicians stay comfortable and in some sort of power in return. They're akin to the Praetorian Guard.
New Dev Diary, featuring screencaps this time, but I think the most interesting feature is pic related.>The AI of Playershttps://store.steampowered.com/news/app/1670650/view/3725079871097101751?l=english
>>1381542Based, we're actually going to have good AI, too? With every dev diary I am convinced this is the paradox killer.>inb4 "It's just vaporware lmao"
>>1381723Every paracuck calls a potential competitor's game vaporware.
>>1381723>We are going to have 200 IQ AI because some idea guy wrote it in his blogThis shit is 100% of the vaporware that Grey Eminence is.
>>1381542>links alpha centauri mod in the diaryI kneel.
>>1340201This game would fit a Rebellion era Star Wars mod.
>>1381809He wrote nothing that was unreasonable.He also updates his github practically daily.
>>1381542In this dev diary he just spits out more pseudo-intellectual crap and throws in some screenshots that were probably made in adobe. He also says, clearly, he's going to put in a shit basic AI and "modders can fix it" so even if this vaporware gets released itll be a glorified modding toolset.Scam. Strange he hasnt asked for paypigs
>>1382179Who exactly is he scamming you fucking retard
>>1382179can you give the most blatant example, in your view, where he misunderstands a subject so utterly, thus exposing himself as "preusdo-intellectual"?
>>1382200>>1382209Go back to the discord to propose dlc for a game that doesnt exist, trannies
>>1382253You still haven't explained how it's a scam. If he hasn't put up a Patreon or a Kikestarter, how is it a scam?
>>1382255Clearly it is an emotional scam, as it gets your hopes up, only for him to not deliver a video game at all.
>>1382261>oh no! my emotions! All of them I invested into this venture...>oh well
>>1382291Hurt feelings is violence anon, get with the times.
>>1382261Unless he's some kind of alien creature that feeds off human emotions, I doubt it lmao
>>1382253>moron esl gets cornered and starts spewing about le tranniesbeing unable to explain what you mean is a sign of low IQ
>>1382306Hey, emotional/psychic vampires is a real thing my dude! I often deal with them at work.
>>1382326They're called women
>>1382619Pretty sure the two I worked with were men.
>>1382179>He also says, clearly, he's going to put in a shit basic AIIf you actually read the dev diary, you would know that he plans to implement a chess-like ai, which are known to be quite good.
>>1382619Imagine if women were realhow horrible
>>1382320Pidor anglosacksi go and take your tranny pill
>>1382209he insists upon himself
>>1383044polish girls love black cock
>>1383362what>>1383385t. bbcposteris your name like john chang or some shit lmfao
This game's discord server is a riot
>>1384323I am willing to take Stalin and the dprk as right-wingers, if the leftists keep Mao.Stalin, the Kims, and stalin's puppets are the kino commies.
i've stopped reading the dev diaries to prevent myself from being gaslit & emotionally scammed, already feeling much better about myself & mentally stable. thank you anons
>>1384323What the fuck? Is this guy mentally deranged? The average marxist-leninist would say that the holomodor was not intentional and that the british were evil in their famines. What is this brain rot?
I'm def gonna use my cia to enact some wholesome chungus persuasion boys, how about you? :)
I'm going to play as the cia and give black people human rights :)))
>>1384323Trotskyite revisionist vermin will be crushed under the tanks.
>>1384323Stalin was a right-winger is one of my favourite takes>>1384357Horseshoe theory strikes with relativistic velocity
>>1382261Are you for real?
>>1384714These people are fucking retarded lmaoWhat do you get when you mix retarded belters who happen to be rabid anti-communists to the point they sperg out if you point out any of the good things the USSR did, like having internal passports so churkas and 'stanis didn't just zerg rush their homelands, modern "communists" and basic bitch liberals in one server?The Espiocracy discord, apparently.
>>1384819>Horseshoe theory strikes with relativistic velocityIt is not horseshoe to prefer to be lumped with the competent or funny commies instead of the incompetent and boring ones.>>1384824You aren't that stupid, come on man.
>>1384879>like having internal passportsNice of you to omit fact that they were also required for native ruskies. USA did it much better with Jim Crow laws.>What do you get when you mix retarded belters who happen to be rabid anti-communists to the point they sperg out if you point out any of the good things the USSR didUSRR lost, snow niggeria is losing. et over it, shitter.
>>1386626The USSR lost because the hardliners lost.
>>1386626So right, sister! Rußia will collapse in two more weeks, or when we win in Bakhmut, whichever happens first! Slava country I didn't care about until the media told me to care about it!
>>1386916And of course, mald.
>>1387544Can't forget that too!
>>1386626The USA did it better until the whole civil rights act thing. That really fucked everything up.
>Tranny janny deleting postsDilate
>>1388005Why are you ESLs so obsessed with trannies? Is it because your average lifespans and AIDS infestation %s similar?
>>1386626passports were also required for native russians (read: chechens, tatars, bashkirs)
>>1372855the fact that the game's information about historical figures will be based on an AI summary of wikipedia pages really dashes my hopesjust think about how many lies are said about communist politicians in kikepedia when the communist wasnt liberal and cosmopolitan enough
>>1388025That isn't the own you think it is.And once again, you're talking about Russians. Belters don't have those problems.
>>1388114belters are just facing a demographic collapse that makes the western one look like a joke, thats all
>>1388128that's because they aren't hiding it with the immigration meme you retardit's just as bad in the west, the population is literally only growing because of random brown people from around the world which isn't exactly a sustainable thing
>>1388140its not the same, because western europeans don't emigrate en masse
>>1388151if that's true how come i went on vacation to turkey i met more brits than actual native turks
>>1388161maybe you should have left your resort
wait what is a belter
>>1388199Butthurt belt aka: Baltic "states", poopland and romania
>>1388025Monolingual tranny is angry today I see
>>1388176I did
>>1388025>ESL schizo is also a troonPottery>>1388232He's fairly butthurt about slavs. I think Pole bullied him in school, Serbs stole his car and Russian fucked his wife
>>1388285your mom got aids in school, your dad died while drunk driving and your wife gave you aids
>>1388305Your tombstone will read "male"
