It's our time
>>1316915Feels good being a basebuilderIs They are Billions worth $23? Anything underrated on sale?
>>1316959Yeah it's great. Be warned that the campaign mode is lackluster but the sandbox mode is the real meat of the game
>>1316915hopefully this includes citybuilder
>>1317034It does from what I can see
>>1316959frostpunk for $7 is good value
>>1316915anybody tested plan b: terraform? I watched a stream a few days ago and it seemed pretty chill like per asperabut there was some basic stuff still missing as its not even early access yet (just a demo)
Why are there so many high fantasy cartoony village builders?
i never played they are billions because zombies are played out. but pic related is supposed to be billions but in conan setting. anybody got an opinion on it?
>>1317133Funcom are milking this IP hard lately
Is Farthest Frontier any good?
>>1317434A better Banished.As long as you enjoy being raped by bigger and bigger armies of looters.
>>1317123>plan b: terraformIs the terraforming extensive?
>>1317438Does it at least allow you to just set up defenses and "passively" deal with looters or does it constantly demand your attention?
>>1316915we got a free demo updo your worstwe also changed a ton of shit since first EA launch based on tons of feedback. also online multi is in for the demo if you want to 1v1 a friend.
>>1317528Oh this has been sitting in my wishlist for a while, time to try it out
>>1317434it is, dare i say it, the best banishedit has lag problems that are being addressed for the next update and hopefully it will all be good and we can dance under the stars
>>1317131because there has yet to be 1 good one.
>>1317528fucking buy an ad you insufferable faggot.I will never play your shit game just because of your spam. genre define a dick up your ass.
>>1317558>>1317528You game is bugged to shit. The campaign AI just stopped moving or attacking after I captured the first region. Saving and restarting didn't fix it.Why release a demo when it makes your game look like shit? Thanks I guess. I'll wait until this leaves EA to see if it's any better
>>1317528fuck off nigger
>>1317595That is the ad. You replied to it, You proved it worked. You are the problem.
>>1316915>check sale>already own any game that looks goodmaybe next year
>>1317794you replied to the reply, you proved the reply worked, you are the (((you)))
>>1317133It's okay but I prefer billions>>1317123Damn this looks great, gonna try the demo>>1317131Appeals to casuals, easy to make it simpler.
>>1317558thank you!>>1317696currently trying to fix it. strategy game AI is a bitch. see also: every strategy game.>>1317595>>1317792go back to posting in hoi4 mod threads
>>1317811hoi4 sucks, your mods suck, your game sucks, you suck.
>>1317528>>1317811explain this you hand-rubbing walking snot faucet.fuck greater khazaria.
>>1316915>this look like a nice oportunity to fetch some games>checking>3/4 of the list is fucking indie EA for the price of AAA>what remains are glorified tower defense shitFuck you very much and your mother too
>>1317838good lord thats some faggot bullshit right there.>reminder this is a "fantasy" game supposedly...
>>1317838Wow, not even going to try it after reading that bs. Imagine siding with the world's clearinghouse for human, arms, and drug trafficking.
>>1317889honestly who gives a fuck about "siding" with either of those jewhives? The problem is *what the fuck does this have to do with "the genre-defining grand tactics game that tasks you with fighting epic turn-based battles"?I'd almost understand if it was a historical game or took place in either country or in that region or anything. I'd still think it was embarrassingly stupid, but I'd at least get what they were doing.
>>1317838Bought this game just for this
well anywayis there a game that's halfway in between Workers and Resources and Sim City 4? I want a city with actual industries (not just a yellow "industry" bar) through which goods flow, but I don't want to purchase every single pickup truck.
>>1317528based
I bought Northgard + Rat and Squirrel clans cause they sound interesting. Played a couple campaign missions and restarted two vs AI games as I figure out how to play. Seems fun and comfy and scratches the itch of wanting to play 4x and RTS but not wanting to play Civ or Starcraft cause I'm burnt out on them.
Can anyone convince me not to buy this? I played the free prologue ages ago and had decent time, how is the replayability of current content compared to that?
>>1317892I give a fuck, why? Because at least in vidya i don't want to be reprimanded because i dare to get comfy
>>1318028Anno ?
>>1318057yes, exactly, but fuck both faggot countries who gives a fuck which one you want to suck off
>>1317838lol
>>1318054It looks like a mobile game.
>>1318054>...
>>1317838> condemn any actions taken for imperialist, fascist and/or racist meansthat's why we stand with Wagner Groupthe frog shall be boiled inshallah
>>1317454You could turn them off if you want at game start.
>>1318092That doesn't answer the question.
>>1317821>>1317838>>1317871>>1317889>>1317892 damn I am owned!
just tried Steamworld Build demo, its very simple but has some nice features. Like telling you how far service buildings reach, the current demand/produce of resources and you can nilly willy move buildings without razing them, thus restructure your shit without wasting resources. casual building
Anyone tried Farlanders? Looks interesting, a comfy, turn-based 2D puzzle/colony builder. So far i'm disliking how the terraforming works but everything else is great
>>1318117>Esther kinda cute>Esther and Marco look like they could be twins>Mom wants you to marry Esther
Yes I'm AM a weeb
>>1318054It's a card gameIf you don't mind that then it's fine
>>1318331Any good weeb city builders?
>>1318140For me it's Victoria
>>1318386All mobile shit Does EraToho counts?
Is Nebuchadzanner good?It's on discount and I'm looking to scratch my Pharaoh itc.
>>1318331Is this something similar to Dorf Romantik, but with anime girls?hmm, less than 10$, but it smell like mobile portAlso, what the fucking deal with all these chink moonrunes? It's not fully translated or something?
>>1318863>PharaohIt's basicaly Emperor with new layer of paint, and minus some of the features (campaign, diplomacy, interesing RNG generated maps). So if you liked E, and don't mind shir ecoming repetitive after a few maps, you will probably will like it too.But te advised that after some play time game could develop serious performance issues (there's a fucking memory leak bug that developers apparently don't give a shit about) which make it borderline unplayable - including previously saved games.TL;DR - 6/10,get only if you really love oldschool Sierra CB
>>1318903I thought it does have a campaign? I'll probably be fine with the other stuff missing, though I never played Emperor.Btw, does it have unlimited resources or can I mine it out?>But te advised that after some play time game could develop serious performance issues (there's a fucking memory leak bug that developers apparently don't give a shit about) which make it borderline unplayable - including previously saved games.This is way more worrying. But is it something simple like restart the game and it's fine? Or something more serious? Like it leaks into your save or some bullshit?
>>1318386does kairosoft count
>>1318863Not really. It's literally an EA that they claim is finished and adding "free content" and jewing expansions. When the game first came out and was missing features/was ass the devs just banned everyone who spoke up and kept yelling "YOURE PLAYING IT WRONG!" till the refunds hit and then tried to pretend like it never happened and started adding shit in. It has some very questionable gameplay design, industry has very small range so you constantly need to build a shit load of these donky hualers to transport goods across your city, but the range for warehouses and industry is so small that you are just making all these logistical lines to transport shit literally down the block. Industry also has "employee cards" that can add more people to work, transport, ect. but in general either everything but "add more workers" are useless. I guess it's ok now and the devs are finally humble. Grahpically it looks just like the games, audio is good and the temple maker gives a lot of freedom that normally the series doesn't have. I would also suggest checking out the game Sumaritans as well on steam, that one is actually trying to mix up the genre a bit.
>>1317123tried the demolooks boring and terrible
>>1319320Noted thanks. I'll keep an eye on that one.Think I'll probably hold off for now.
>>1318117It's pretty fun. Feels rewarding to plan out your city quite far in advance, and to balance growth with resource security. It does feel quite RNGy with the terraforming but it gives you a fair few tools to mitigate it. I skipped all the visual novel stuff, the first few ones were just boring.
where the fuck did New Cycle come from
>>1319320Why can't city builders go back to this style. I don't think it ever reached its full potential.
>>1316959>Is They are Billions worth $23?If you need to ask - you are more retarded than that pricetag
>>1318117Demo is great but it's definitely more of a puzzle game than a city builder
>>1317528I only played it for a little bit but I wanted to give some praise to whoever did the visual design/art direction. Really love the art in this game.
>>1319668Because morons have thought 3D models = better looking since the early 00's.
>>1316915Is Dyson Sphere Program good?
>>1319881Yes, it fits in nicely with Factorio and Satisfactory. They 're going at add enemies next though and it may or may not ruin the game
>>1317528I have no idea what the intention behind the ammo system is, but it makes the game really tedious. It actually feels more like advance wars now, which I remember you saying was an anti goal, though again I don't know why, AW is a good game. You're going to get recognised as unique for the art alone, you don't need to try to revolutionise the gameplay as well. Maps still feel too big, the ammo system makes that feel worse since it's so grindy to get anywhere setting up supply lines. The basebuilding is better with the global supply instead of bothering with each building's inventory. Not sure how you could scrap that but move it notion into the unit inventory. It's always felt like the resource management is some mechanic you brainstormed and thought was cool but have never been able to integrate into anything fun.The unit abilities are also annoying and microy. The gunship for example feels like busywork to cast it's speed buff, if it's free and can be cast every turn why not have it be a passive effect aura?Also it's buggy as shit. That plus your lack of direction and seeming lack of understanding of the principles of game design (and the fact your marketing strategy includes shilling on 4chan) gives me a lot of doubts about how this game will turn out.
>>1319668Because it's neither cheap looking for a phone game nor expensive looking for a PC game.
>>1317528Nice! I'll give it a try, anon.
>>1319288still cant believe im addicted to these games
>>1317838DoA. Talk about not knowing your target audience.
>>1319854Sim City 4 is the best looking city builder and that uses 3D models
>>1316915bumping
>>1318863You may also like Children of the Nile
>>1320846I didn't say 3D models were bad, it's that people have been taught that 2D models are bad. And I personally vividly remember the era when 3D models very often did look like trash, and resulted in a game being extremely limited because the game was built around the needs of the graphics rather than the needs of the gameplay.
I would be appreciative if somebody could hit me with a list of basic babby town/city builders. Maybe not something so simple as Islanders but something a little more involved than Banished, preferably focusing on growing a town/city/etc. than anything with combat please.
>>1322419Play Pharaoh. It starts very simple and by the end gets very complex, but the 'fun part' of building the Great Pyramids happens before any real serious bullshit.Honestly the worst part about some missions is they take forever.
>>1322419Have you tried Against the Storm?Its a very interesting spin on production chains under pressure
>>1322517Against the Storm is not for babbies.
>>1322419Farlanders is pretty comfy IMO. No combat, it's all about buidling the biggest Mars colony you can. There's a demo.
>>1320256thanks for the mostly good faith and honest feedback!>ammoa major issue in the game was that, once built, you could units forever. they basically "broke from" the logistics part of the game. people would build bases in the back of maps, then hike units to the frontline and never touch the logistics stuff again. this is maybe okay in some games, but the whole point of the game is that everything should be focused around tactics AND logistics. adding in ammo keeps the units tethered to needing a logsitics network nearby, and also makes the tactics more fun because you now can target unit supply chains instead of just big units.>AWAW has always been an inspo. I dont think I ever said I didn't want to be AW, just that I want to be something different from AW and not a direct AW rip.>basebuildingnot sure what you mean here. building is now done in regions directly (similar to northgard) instead of a global menu. i wrote a lot of words about this change here if you care https://forums.cantata-game.com/t/orbital-drop-0-3-design-notes-aka-cantata-2-0/230>abilitieswe're still tweaking a ton of this stuff, definitely agree. a lot of these are in as first pass just to know that they work, but we're actively iterating on all of it so yeah some of it sucks!>buggy as shityou're memeing here. the ai is broken right now but everything else in the game operates properly. there's obviously some other bugs but nothing to warrant "buggy as shit".>lack of direction and lack of understanding of game designdamn I am so owned!>shilling on 4chanwe have a full marketing team that gets normies. im here because /vst/ is one of the only places on the internet where people actually play strat other than paradox or CA stuff. and the marketing team obv isn't going to post here.>>1319853thank you! I did all the art direction but the illustrator and pixel artist also brought a lot of their own inspiration and styling to the game obv.>>1320569thank you!
>>1322419Just play impressions games game's.
>>1318051yeah Northgard is pretty good
>>1322719>ammoI see that it accomplishes your design goal, I just don't think it's a fun mechanic. Perhaps it can be tweaked or balanced to be, but currently all the logistics mechanics feel like a chore.The fact you're now incentivised to spend AP micromanaging unit inventories has taken away most of the benefit the AP\surge system gave in the first place.You talk about killing your darlings but the entire logistics system still feels like this separate boring game that gets in the way of enjoying the tactical combat. Making it less tedious doesn't make it fun, and integrating it closer to the combat does neither of them any favours.>tactics more fun because you now can target unit supply chainsI don't see supply chains getting that long, you're grinding forward capturing regions to get more building spots because you need to spam more arms factories so you can shoot more than once per turn. You build one supply building to attack from, and if it gets destroyed you just rebuild it. There's no reason to make a long supply chain because the only thing you want is more space\resources which the adjacent region is sufficient for.>basebuildinglast demo I played you had to daisy chain the resources across the buildings, removing that was a good change but you have added a version of it back in for units with the ammo system. >bugsI'll actually submit some bug reports, but aside from the busted AI: the attack abilities of the bombard and gunship can be activated outside their range, buildings can be built within minimum range of each other sometimes, a bunch of UI is just giant white squares, and I've had everything frozen on loading saves.It isn't a bug, but your tooltips still talk about global supply and the like, which doesn't exist anymore.>a full marketing teamyou may want to get them to edit\proof read your dev notes, there's some mistakes and general cruft that could be cut.
