>they're still making DLC for Civ VIwhere is Civ VII, leaders don't even get new music
>>1261096What meaningful changes would Civ 7 even do that Civ 6 doesn't, or couldn't with more updates?
>>1261168it could be an essentially different game with different mechanics and art direction while keeping the themeVI has a lot of weird min-max feature bloat with the various currencies, adjacencies and policy cards. You could build a game with similar ideas but different implementations without just bolting on more features the AI doesn't understand. Also hexes are gay
>>1261096Workforce is probably dancing on Tik Tok right now, will get to the game later.
>>1261234Facebook boomer tier comment
>>1261096>six years later >they are adding shit that should have been in the base game>no NapoleonFuck these faggots holy shit
Anyone who missed the full list:>Abraham Lincoln>Ana Mbande>Elizabeth>Ramesses II>Ludwig II>Julius Caesar>Theodora>Nadir Shah>Sundiata Keita>Wu Zetian>Tokugawa Ieyasu>Sejong
>Ana Mbande>Ludwig II>Nadir ShahWhy are these devs so obsessed with literal whos?
>>1261255>Elizabeth shows up last minute so her perfect streak isn't brokenkind of annoyed that didn't opt for an Anglo-Saxon leader, and France got totally screwed because it still doesn't have a proper leader
>>1261257These are all better picks than their current leaders
>>1261238Come on, you know as well as I do the site's average user age range is like 35-45 now. I'm 36 myself. Look at >>1261192 using "gay" as an insult, that's a dead middle age giveaway.>>1261168I have a bad feeling they want to space it out a while longer before we get Civ 7. For reference, the space between Civ V and 6 was six years (2010-2016), and going by this the space between 6 and 7 will be eight years, presuming a 2024 release.>>1261257My guess is doing the same guys every time would be boring, even if they're famous, so props for shaking it up a little. Ludwig II at least built a really pretty castle so I suspect he'll get a bonus or unique improvement related to that.
>>1261280>using "gay" as an insult, that's a dead middle age giveaway.fug I'm not that old yetNot very sold by the idea of new leaders anyway. Most of the budget goes on the animated leader so I always figured it made the most sense to just do the whole thing for an extra civ. And keeping the dlc going probably means the modders will never get the dll source code. The NFP leaders had cut corners, let's see if they do that again
>>1261257>Why are these devs so obsessed with literal whos?I guess that's the point, making a historical figure to be remembered and recognizable in today's modern age. >>1261096also what kind of huge major gameplay gimmick that CIV 7 should have that CIV 6 doesn't? CIV 6 gameplay is already perfect and doesn't need a sequel, adding more leaders to the game is the only reasonable decision by this point
>>1261257Ludwig II makes sense as a pick. He's plays into culture mechanics perfectly>patronized Wagner and saved his careerBonuses to great persons>designed and built a shit ton of palaces and castles from his own pocketBonuses to great works>The lasting legacy of his reign is the tourism his castles and palaces bring, which is the single largest industry in bavariaThe tourism mechanic is literally how you win a cultural victoryAna is there because Africa has to get somethingNadir Shah is a weird ass pick though, given the wealth of options they can pull from the classical persians, the sassinids, the safavids, even fucking TimurI don't know what compelled them to chose Nadir
>>1261371The best decision for end users is giving modders full access rather than continuous money generation through live service. The only thing Firaxis can add at this point is high production value to leaders but loads of people end up turning off animated leaderheads anyway
>>1261096Is Elizabeth just going to lean into Francis Drake-style play?
>>1261696Elizabeth's leader ability thing might lean more into expansion and settling, given how England weirdly already has the Sea Dog unit
>>1261707>Elizabeth's leader ability thing might lean more into expansion and settlingVictoria already does that. She's one of the best in the game for precisely that. We lack a leader who can make lategame privateering valuable. Norway does it early, Ottos sweep a coastline in a single turn, and England...has higher combat stats?
>>1261096hold still while we milk every penny of you
>>1261762Civ DLC gives great efficiency in dollars per hour in my experience. They haven't put out a DLC for over a year, probably just making some simple content while 7 cooks.
Elizabeth is going to be old, pox scar ridden, kind of bloated elizabeth rather than the young elizabeths we got before
>>1261813Good, young Victoria is cringe.
>>1261815Take that back
>>1261255I like Wu, Nadir and Theo. Missed her, but lmao work on civ 7 already firaxis
>>1261833This was made because Civ 7 had delays so they needed something to show fans they were still workingYou can tell because the trailer has no budget lmaohttps://youtu.be/luWyFMwgQoc
>>1261840is that a fucking goanimate video
>>1261840KEK>we want the Newgrounds audience
>>1261840At least it's cute lizzy instead of old lizzy
>>1261096>TheodoraWhy do they do this shit?>>1261257>>Ludwig IIOne of most important german rulers of all time and the beginning of a continuous german state.
>>1261255looks like Julius Caesar got axed
>>1261855>Why do they do this shitShe's hot, was in previous games, and is popular enough people won't sperg>One of most important german rulers of all time and the beginning of a continuous german stateThe only things he did was be nice to peasants and build castlesI don't hate him but come on now, I'd much rather have Otto I or Frederick the Sicilian if we were to have an 'underrepresented' ruler
>>1261856No, it adds up12 new leaders in the pass and 12 new leaders in the leakWhat's missing is the 6 personas in the pass, which could be anyone. They could slap a funny hat on Tomyris and call her Regal Tomyris and call it a day
>>1261840>British flag in India, Kenya, Finland, Antarctica, and 3 off the map>Elizabeth>No Britain on the map>Caribbean doesn't even existI...
>>1261860the list is up, caesar is kill
>>1261862>5 leaders of chinalmao
>chinks get six gorrillion leaders>sweden is stuck with its shitty joke of a leader
>>1261870To be fair, Sweden has only like three good picks (Gustavus, Charles 'Protestant Jihadist' XI, and Carolus) Outside of that time period, Sweden was completely irrelevant Personally I think they should have just pulled Christian II for both Norway and Sweden
>>1261872so pick at least one of them, chinks didn't need to have a special pack just for them with all those new leaders when other civs are still stuck with weak meme picks
you get it for free* if you already own all the previous dlc
not interested unless they release the dll so modders can make more advanced mods that can fix the problems firaxis refuses to addr
>>1261862"We want the Chinese audience."
>>1261443>Nadir Shah is a weird ass pick though, given the wealth of options they can pull from the classical persians, the sassinids, the safavids, even fucking Timur>I don't know what compelled them to chose NadirBecause they were aiming for someone OTHER than ancient history for Persia. And he's literally the best pick you can get for the area after, say, 500 ADOf course the end result is Alex-tier masturbation to a great military conqueror and ABYSMAL administrator, so go fucking figure.Still better than Kristina. I mean she's the "golden" standard of terrible pick and so far nothing dethroned her.
>>1261870>>1261872>china has a trillion year history>sw*den spent most of it's time living in dirt and raiding other defenseless dirt peopleYeah, so many leaders to choose from the glorious civilization known as sweden lol
>>1261922>And he's literally the best pick you can get for the area after, say, 500 ADKhosaru, Ismail, Abbas the Great, FUCKING TIMMY
>Elizabeth againJust let England use one of our many male leaders for once. Even her dad would make a change for once.
>>1261931tell us all about your glorious trillion year history, zhang
>>1261941Sorry bro the English should have had less shit male rulers if they didn't want to constantly be represented by femalesElanor was superfluous though and should have been someone else
>>1261840KEK they gave this trailer to some executives special needs kid, over for Civ fags
>>1261886cool since its still on sale but I dont expect much value in this and the trailer is a bad sign >no new music>no new infrastructure>cheap models with reused animations Calling it
>>1261952Eleanor should have been Henry II, Eleanor was just some Stacy who divorce raped her beta husband over half his kingdom.
They said it was included with Anthology. What if we already have everything?
>>1262028you get it for free
>>1262041Cool. Thanks anon
>great negotiators>Lincoln>the same Lincoln that refused to negotiate and attacked the South just because he wanted to keep it subjugated, no matter the cost
>>1262106General Lee lost.
>>1262106They are all tarded.Why is Theodora the great builder when it was Justinian that built the St. Sofia?
>>1261948t. sub 80 IQ moron
I've never played a Civilization game but I'm getting the itch to try one. Which should I play?
>>12621516 is the best* except the AI is so brain dead it ruins the entire game
>>1262151Civ 2 -> SMAC -> Civ 3 -> Civ 4
>>1262151Civ 5 is the braindead game perfect for babies.Move on to Civ 6 or 4 when you get tired of it and SMAC when you want to play perfection.
>>1262165Civ 6 is even more braindead than 5 since the AI is even less capable. On top of not knowing how to play with 1UPT, it also has no idea what to do about the new district system.
>>1262106Vgh, the beautiful prolapsed anuses of southern black bucks... what could have been.
>>1262106>negotiateNegotiate what? The South shelled Fort Sumter.
>>1262133They always treated them as one entity. Theodora never ruled to begin with so they always give her bonuses inspired by stuff Justinian did.
>>1262173It's even more pathetic when the highest difficulty setting they just give the AI more headstart rather than making them just a bit smarter than King level.
>>1262019>in b4 not even animated/voiced, just still images like scenario-only leadersI'm probably wrong but lol if I'm right
>>1262019>>1262466It'd be pretty disappointing if Ptolemaic Cleopatra doesn't speak Greek fr fr no cap.
>>1262469Doesn't the Anglo/Frog cunt speak both Olde English and Maturated French depending on the nation?
>>1261862If Theodora is even half as hot as she is in Civ 5 then I will have to retire the Bulgar Slayer.
>>1262483I believe Eleanor speaks Occitan all the time. Catherine de Medici switches between French and Italian though.
>>1262469She definitely won't because that would require a new actress who speaks Greek + syncing animations to the dialogue
>>1262486They better make her speak Latin this time around.
>>1262486Btw did Theo have massive milkers irl? This is important for historicity, after all Justinian did everything to marry her.
>>1262132Great song though
>>1262557It's questionableSlanders painted a picture of theodora having breats so large that you could fuck her nipples, but that same source describes Justinian ripping his own head off and running around his palace at night spewing fireGiven she was a prostitute before becoming an empress, it's not that far fetched for her to have large breasts, but we simply don't have enough reliable sources on it
>>1262134kek I'd probably seethe too if I was a soft yellow manlet living in the west
>>1262569>Slander>Breasts so large that you could fuck her nipplesThe seething incel that wrote the Secret History doesn't know how slander works.
>>1262587Roman were smoll tits enjoyer and rejected cowtits.
>>1261933>KhosaruOh wow, a stalemate war with Byzboob, much achievements!>IsmailAnd none of his achievements lasted>Abbas the GreatPoint taken.
>>1262587Med women are chestlets on average, especially with the diets back then. Large tits were a barbarian thing so they associated it with being an uncouth subhuman.
Is CIV 6 worth it? Huge discount right now but it looks like a mobile game and Im unsure.t. civ2/civ3 enjoyer
>>1262676People keep saying it "looks like a mobile game" when it's basically in-line with every prior title except V, whose leader models aged like dogshitMechanically and content-wise the full package is similar to but more refined than its predecessor, every feature except religion (nearly identical to V) and world congress (confusing and stupid) has been improvedThere are mods which change the color saturation and texture of tiles if the base game is too vibrant or simple for your taste
>>1262670Barbarians would have poorer diet and as a result, less fat to be stored on breasts.
but what the fuck do they do firaxis
>>1262695>Lincoln looks like a disheveled hobo in a clean suitAppropriate.
>>1261168possibly it could be a good game
>>1262694They consumed a lot more meat, milk and cheeses. It's something both Greek and Roman authors note when talking about the northern barbarians.
>>1262719Did they note the barbarian boobies too?
>>1262728Too busy writing about manly barbarian men.
Why are they so fucking skinny?
>>1262744Firxis listened to the complaints of everyone being too fat or chubby and sent all leaders on a diet.
>>1262744Lincoln is historically accurate, man was a physical anomaly Saladin looks that way already, he's just wearing armor instead of robes so it stands outI couldn't tell you anything about Nzinga
>>1262692World congress is a lot better than in fucking Civ5, simply because resolutions are replaced with every new meeting unlike in Civ5 where a banned luxury would force you to obsessively try to unban it while the AI just passes more bullshit.>>1262744>>1262695Lincoln looks terrible, he had very rough skin and a face like the missing link, in these he looks like a 20 something wearing a costume. Very sloppy and low quality and this mbzanana KANG is just BLM niggress fuck these tards and fuck this shitty DLC.
>>1262744Better than FAT. Also Lincoln was skinny wasn't he?
>>1262800not particularly, the stovepipe made him look that way though
very gaunt face though, i'll give you that
>>1262804Thank you, but I prefer my far less gaunt face
I have the game, I buy it when it was in offer on the NSI think they should add more relevant figures. like Adolf...
>>1261192I'm fearful that another roll of the dice would lead to another Frankenstein's monster like Civ 5 was. I hope they keep more than they lose.
>>1262744GOOD! I'll finally get a black woman I can fap to. No more pudgeballs.
>>1261862>>England>Elizabeth ISigh, again? I know she's unique for being a ginge minge but we never get Alfred, Edward, William, Henry, George...>HardradaFucking why? So they can reuse him? He came to England and died. He had zero claim beyond the point of a sword.If you want another multi-ruler, AND for Norway specifically, you have Canute. He's not unknown either and has a stupid meme about telling the sea to go back!Why is the Civ series allergic to giving male leaders to England? You have to go back to 4 to get one and yet it's, again, Elizabeth and Victoria, the two rulers who were famous for inheriting a functional realm.
>>1261267Sorry anon, French leaders are too male, you can't have Napoleon or Louis. You can't even have Charley to share with Germany.
>>1262911>Fucking why? So they can reuse him?literally yes, that's the reason. cheapo reskin, he's not going to be usable with England anyway (probably)
>>1262953>he's not going to be usable with England anyway (probably)I think you're right and he's just under the England category because it's more marketable than saying North Sea rulers or England-and-the-literally-who-nation. No offence, Norwegians, but America's never heard of you.
>>1261168I want a round world already. Default zoom all the way in and out. The free camera mod doesn't wok anymore and I never got to use it.
bought the base game 90% off steam, played 30 mins, got bored
>>1261862nader shah hype, underrated choice
>>1262911>Why is the Civ series allergic to giving male leaders to England?It's because Queen Elizabeth II was so iconic across the globe everyone was associating England with a female monarch. Now that Charles is king this'll change in a few years.
>>1263116I shall welcome the United Republic of England, and the old senile git be sent to work in some quarry in Wales.
>>1261862>3 (THREE) separate chinese leaders
>>1263124China Numba Wan
>>1261255Nzinga Mbande at least makes sense for a female leader of a country that is already in the game. Which is more than 60% of the meme female leaders these games get.
>>1262106I bet you think a good US negotiator would just let Putin take all of the old USSR back
>>1263176Yeah, having a strong Russia would put pressure on western basedciety and, specifically, force Europe to abandon its retirement home policies and do away with KGB psyops like the greens in the face of an eastern threat.All American supremacy does is empower niggers and leftists, we need a new enemy against whom we have to compete.
>>1263193>a new enemy against whom we have to compete.Huh, what about that powerful east asian state that has been conducting subversive actions on foreign western soil and featured on movies and video games as antagonists, the nefarious North Korea.
>>1263193>KGB psyops like the greensGreens are the most hawkish political party these days and a few steps away from calling genocide on all Russians. The fuck, are you on about?
>>1263124England gets 4. Why shouldn't China?How many greek leaders are we up to? 4 as well?
>>1263211I think he's referring to the Greens in Germany being responsible for dismantling nuclear reactors which resulted in Germany being even more dependent on Russian gas and resorting to coal as stopgap. Some would connect the dots.
>>1262106>"""subjugated"""You can't just leave when you lose a vote. That's not democracy.
>>1263223>Greens in Germany being responsible for dismantling nuclear reactorsThis was entirely done by the Christian Democrats in a coalition with the Social Democrats. Greens had been an opposition party between 2005 and 2021. >which resulted in Germany being even more dependent on Russian gasAgain, something that was entirely facilitated by the Christian Democrats under Merkel. The Greens were the only party opposed to the Nordstream pipelines out of a number of reasons.
>>1263231I should've worded that properly, but they were the most forefront on anti-nuclear stance.
>>1263235That is very true. But they're also on the forefront of a lot of other retarded topics which get ignored by most.
>>1263238Being short sighted reactionaries harmed their cause, sadly.
>they're STILL making dumb reclothed leadersAHHHHHHHHH
>>1261096Mbande didn't rule or even belongg to Kongo, she was Queen of her own realms in the territory in modern day Angola.If I'm not mistaken she even had some disputes with the Kongo Kingdom.That's some good shoehorning right there.
>>1263124>Timeless civilization relevant at every point in human history gets 3 leaders>The complaint here is somehow that they have too manyWhite hands.
>>1263305I think they wanted to reuse the Kongo civ attributes for gameplay reasons. We'll have to see how well her kit synergizes with Kongo.
>>1263305She wuz a member of the kongo tribeAlso Matthias Corvinus should be the leader of Romania instead if hungary
>>1263305Arr Africans rook the same.
>>1263305>Eamon de Valera leads Englanddo it firaxis
>>1263305According to a map I found she owned the (modern borders of) western Congo.Though I'm willing to be sceptical because people like to overstate actual control of most kingdoms (such as the Angevins controlling all of the British isles... somehow). It doesn't help that there's a lot of modern reimagining of her for what looks like nationalist and (American) feminist reasons.She does deserve to be in a Civ game for being a female leader who actually did something and was based due to being a slaver queen, a conqueror, and her one crowning ritual involving drinking human blood and rubbing on the oil of a slaughtered infant, aka cannibalism and infanticide. Oh and her harem of male concubines she forced to wear women's clothes and call her King. She's basically more of a man than /vst/, or most female Civ leader picks, will ever be.
>>1263469What a weird Julius
>>1263469that model is fucking horrendous>llnk account no
>>1263469Looks like beady eyed British soccer commentator who frequented Cambodia for pleasure business
>>1263469>HairNot getting it.
>Abe Lincoln's ability causes 'friction' in your empireoh lawd
>>1263469>Receive a Wildcard policy slot the first time you capture an opposing capital. Receive 200 Gold whenever you conquer a city for the first time or 100 Gold when you clear a Barbarian Outpost. These Gold amounts increase to 500 after you research Steel.Welp on November 21st I will play the ultimate warmonger game.
>>1262976They had that in civ iv actually iirc.Not sure why they didn't implement that again. Was a cool feature
>>1263538That wildcard bonus wasn't in the stream they just did so I wonder if it got nerfed before release
>>1263469Time to teach those Gauls a lesson.
>>1262695The recent lefty dev obsession of Nzinga Mbande (Paradox made a loading screen for her in EU4) is funny, considering that she fought against Portugal to take control of the slave trade. Not to end it. This African Qween wanted to gain enough power to sell other African slaves to the highest bidder.
>>1263469still kept the reactions when Gauls were announcednow we can recreated Mission Cleopatra, noice
>>1263554civfanatics were pushing her as leader of Kongo like 10 years ago I think, surprised me they didn't do it initiallylast time I went there they were asking for all kinds of literal who women for leaders, they have no taste man
When did they private the Spain video? Had to find a game spot video to sub in.https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLzmv7c2oI4GKjkELmJvXJqG3_6l5VBh7n
>>1263557>add Gauls>the leader isn't even a Gaulbravo firaxis
>>1263563Are they still pushing for the Inuit civ? Civfanatics used to be a nice place but they really went off the deep end around Gods&Kongs.
>>1263565many such cases>Arabs led by a Kurd>Egypt led by a Greek>France led by an Italian>India led by an alien
>>1263565Ambiorox was a Gaul though.
>>1263569I think they got cucked by Firaxis adding Canada as the snow civ
>>1263569I mean I would love Inuit, but that's only because I like their culture and would love to have a civ that can do something snow and ice tiles even in early game. Not every civ has to be someone important and with CIV6 they already did establish they're going for more gimmicky and interesting personality leaders/civs and if you want something basic, you already have options with things like Rome, China or England. Kinda' wish that even after Leader pack we'll get some 'lesser civs' like Inuit, Venice/Vatican and Hawaii, but I can see why people would rather just have Napoleon or actually competent Sweden leader.
What classic civs form older games are we still missing?
>>1263571All of those people at least ruled over their respective civs. >>1263574He was Belgae, Caesar himself acknowledged them as a different people to Gauls. He ruled over his own tribe, not Gauls.
>>1263554And? Where is the problem in her having slaves? This is a civ game, not a daycare.
>>1263577the game is missing a true Injun faction, the Cree are a poor substitute
>>1263593can't believe israel isn't a civ yet
>>1263571Kurds aren't real, take your meds
>>1263582Babylon is in
>>1263604I guess we've got everyone then except for one-off civs like the Austrians, Hittites or Huns.
>>1262911>He had zero claim beyond the point of a sword.he was the heir of the legitimate king (magnus the good who was the heir of harthacnut), godwinson was a usurper in every way
Perhaps I'm overestimating but caesar seems Bolicar tier brokenMerely capturing a few barbarian camps can set you well above the curve in the early game, and the fact that the bonus scales into the mid game instead of falling off like Trajan will give him a lot of longevity that most early game civs don't haveI still don't know if the wildcard thing is true or not but if it is he's probably the best dom civ
My bet>loyalty penalties>West Point building that spews great general points>extra dark age cards (emancipation proclimation, suspen habeas corpus)>bonuses during emergencies
>>1261168A completely different game anon. Are you under the impression that Civ VI is a direct progression from its predecessors? I like VI but I liked V, and I liked IV, and so on and so forth. A new game with separate mechanics but in the vein of Civilization is what fans of the series always want.
>>1263643Civ is a two step incremental series. 1&2, 3&4, 5&6. These pairings always share quite a few core compenents and gameplay styles. I don't like 6, but the fact that every third game is completely different is kind of exciting.
>>1263645I expect it will be less different than that, assuming Ed Beach is designing it as well
>>1263645Hmm, I hadn't thought of that. If I'm being honest however I very highly doubt that we will see those kinds of changes. Civ has never been as profitable as it is now, and the original talent that existed is gone. The state of the industry is entirely different now. I just don't see how it can possibly turn it around to be honest, there is no incentive nor experience to make a stellar and inventive style anymore imo
>can't build Hagia Sophia on hillsWhat the actual fuck.
>>1263614>be Harold>wait until King dies>hey guys, should I be King?>ye and verily>be William>wait until King dies>wtf how dare they elect their countryman as the next King! Time to stab someone!>be Harald>wait until King dies>wtffff, Canute was related to me somehow if you go back 15 generations, and even though I fought against him, that's my land because he had it at one point! Time to stab everyone including my countrymen!Zero. Claim.Ignore all viking posts. Hide all viking posts. Deport all viking posters to Iceland.
>>1263571>Canada led by a Quebecois>India led by anyone other than a Muslim or BritI accept Britain being led by a frog or germ, as is tradition, but I just cannot accept these two.
>>1263469How many people did you kill in Gaul?
>>1263791William had assurance from Edward that he was heir and had his claim confirmed by the pope, who England still obeyed at this timeHardrada had a blood claim due to his descendancy from Cnut, a claim derived from a treaty Hathacnut, then King of England and Magnus, then King of Norway, had signed, which stipulated that should Hathacnut die childless England would pass on to Magnus and his line, which he did, and was invited by Tostig to take the throneThe Witan's ability to elect kings was extremely shaky and unfounded, there is little evidence that it was analog to the electors of the HRE and more evidence that it was a cermonial ritual to acknowledge the King more than anything, Harold had the weakest claim of all
>>1261762It's free, dumb frog poster.
>>1262173The AI in 6 is the same as 5. They never improved it to deal with 1UPT and hexes compared to 4 and earlier.
>>1262676I've been playing since 2. Six is the best in the series, just like every successive main line title has been.
Personally, I think Six's greatest strength is how it tried to find a common ground between 5's autism over playing tall and the expansionist style the genre was founded onI also like how it did religion and governmentBut damn is the world congress not annoying
>>1261849There was shit coming out on newgrounds with better animation than this in 2006
>It's free if you own the rest of the DLC that's almost always on sale for penniesBased
>>1261840The trailer is so bad that I imagine it was whipped up in like a day or two as a response to the pass being leaked, but then I realized that the DLC itself is releasing in less than a week.
>>1263469Time to genocide Gaul, then
>>1263469>Civ 6 Trajan looks more like irl Caesar>Civ 6 Caesar looks more like irl Trajanwhat did they mean by this
NOT my Caesarhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fHzG7NRubqQ
>>1261168The biggest improvement would be competent AI.The fact that they're releasing MORE DLC for VI poses an interesting question: if their artists and animators are free enough that they're creating assets for VI instead of VII, which is undoubtedly deep in development, what are they actually working on in regards to VII? And not just assets, but the most complex assets in the game. Either they're still at the stage where they're using placeholder assets and there's no reason to rush finalizing them or they have nothing to work on.
>>1263932I don't understand why people dislike this, he looks like (a younger) Caesar based off of the most common depictions.>Receding hairline>Downturned nose with a long bridge>Concave cheeksTrajan looks like Asterix & Obelix Caesar in comparison.
>>1263913World Congress fucking blows, but people complained until it was added back. Hopefully they figure out how to make diplomacy fun somehow.
>>1263791>electing your kingAbsolutely disgusting. Good thing all of them got killed for that.
I just don't like the aesthetic they chose for VIGilgamesh is the only leader I think looks good
>>1263913I prefer 6's world congress to 5's because the resolutions aren't permanent and its diplo victory is better.>>1263932>our programmer with a lisp should be the voice of our company>>1263940Image related is allegedly a bust trying to look like a younger Julius>Trajan looks like Asterix & Obelix Caesar in comparison.This annoys me because Civ's Trajan looks like he's modelled after the typical and iconic Julius bust. And Trajan busts look like Civ's Julius.>>1263971I don't like how hills are barely different to flat terrain. Or how everyone has really short arms. Or how most ways Civs differ are horrendously under or overpowered. Or that some natural wonders look just like other natural wonders and you plan to use the wrong mechanics. Or that most music, like England's or Khmer's or Cree's, is shite and I will restart if my early neighbour is a bad sounding one.
>>12639136 Districts are the best thing they've added to civ in awhile. Only real negative is assigning citizens to work in districts is pretty much always worse than working a tile for yields.
>>1263987Bro you just posted August Caesar.
>>1263987https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5T_DhSxu4oMThanks Firaxis, so diverse and exciting!
If I buy Anthology now do I still get the pass for free?Dont want to ask reddit.
>>1264022rip me>>1264059I'm starting to become an advocate for Victorian era genocide... why couldn't the Kiwis manage it?
>>1264065I think it's actually free for anyone with Civ vi at all.
>>1261192>it could be an essentially different game with different mechanics and art direction while keeping the themjust like the last two civ games amirite
>>1264065Yeah you get the passYou also get it if you just have all the DLC>>1264074This is a lie
>>1263987My brother in christ that's octavian not julius
Thoughts on Caesar's abilities?I think its pretty meh, Trajans free monuments are still stronger but still better than gilgamesh barbarian camp pillage
>>1261696>>1261707I like the idea of a religious/gold playstyle again like mali but this time coastal, assuming shes a paid dlc i expect her to be broken fun like portugal
>>1264291If he gets the wildcard he's easily one of the strongest civsIf he doesn't he's decent enough with some room to experiment
>>1263226>You can't just leave when you lose a vote. That's not democracy.Why not? If you (in the sense of a state/region/population) think that a system established a century+ ago will no longer give you a voice in favor of letting another region run a train on you because they have more people, why shouldn't you leave? Other than the other side deciding that they should get to conquer you for trying to leave.
>>1264415Just outbreed them bro, literally have sex haha
>>1264424That might work in a democracy but the US is a Federal Republic and you couldn't make more slave states cause reasons.
>>1263892He didn't kill people. He killed Gauls.
>>1264415Because then you weren't part of the system. You were pretending to be apart of the system. Why even vote if you have no intent on obeying the outcome? That's you flipping a coin and then refusing the outcome. The implication you were playing at all was a lie.
>>1264756US independence got started by a tax law that would have been a net reduction. Pretending to be principled doesn't get you anything. If states had a right to join the union by extent they had a right to leave it, the reason is irrelevant.
>>1264763No taxation without representation, George.
>>1264766That's good and all but the US since it's inception taxed people that had no representation.
>>1264768The concept of women and Africans being people took some convincing, I'll admit.
>>1264769At the start of the US most people regardless of race or gender didn't have a right to vote as only landed men could vote.
Why haven't they made a unique fort graphic for the Romans and made it a castle? Yeah yeah I know you unlock the prerequisite tech in the medieval era for other civs so it's defaulted to that, but that's not a good enough excuse for a civ which has been around day 1.
>>1264777Romans, it being a castle instead?*Also, I got to make a 2K account for this civ? Is this why they updated Civ 5 with their browser? To push this shit?
>>1264771And they shouldn't?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PvPc9q3rY0YWhat do you think his special ability is?
>>1264790Bonuses during a Dark Age
>>1264790Underindustrialized cities (relative to your current advancement) lose loyalty, bonuses for industrialized ones, plus some bigger gimmick
>>1264777>because money.jpg [file uploads from your country are blocked, lol]Arguably they should have given forts a classical model since art assets happen before balancing and they didn't know, on release, what their special game mode DLCs would involve.I also never use them so I don't notice. Does anyone?
>>1264790When the world reaches the industrial era, half your cities defect to free cities.Spies can perform Neutralise Governor versus your leader. It's also permanent.
>>1264790>Do I not detroy my enemies when I make them my friendsOh god it's diplomatic dominationHe can subjugate entire civs and become their suzerin or something and get huge amounts of diplomatic favor for it but they can try to break away
>>1263469>>1264877that's the worst ceasar i've ever seen
>>1264879>>1264877It matches his bust>large nose >receding hairline>pronounced and concave cheeksCaesar wasn't a very handsome man despite being a descendent of venus
Today I remind them
>>1264882are you blind or just retarded?
>>1264777Late Roman forts were the forerunners of castles, which makes sense since the Germans largely augmented and supplanted Roman rule in the West.
>>1264927and in rome itself. lol, meds.
>>1264949>medsCongratulations, this has lost all meaning.
>>1264951and in rome itself. lol, the ethnicities who are settled in the mediterranean regionretarded autist
>>1264961Genetically speaking most of Europe is the same as it was 2000 years ago. Apparently 400 years of retards moving from A to B has done fuck all.
>>1264927>Late Roman forts were the forerunners of castlesNeither of Civ6's Roman leaders, nor their choice of legionary, are late Roman.
>>1264894You're right, they made him orettier by making his jead less retangular
>>1264790Every point of net disloyalty gives a point of diplomatic favor.
>>1263987>our programmer with a lisp should be the voice of our companySurely Firaxis has people with more pleasing voices than the first look videos. The woman with the vocal fry wasn't that great either but her delivery was better
>>1265124Sarah was also a programer, the reason she isn't doing them anymore is because she now works at zenimax
>>1265045They're also not cartoons moving in a hexagonal world.
>>1264894>>1264879Face blindness is a sign of autism.>>1264888HAAHWAAH
>>1261096That art makes me want to die.
>>1265016Have they found the elusive cache of Roman 23andMe test results?
>>1265730doesn't even matter, as he's conflating the genetics of the ruling elite (which the germanics took over) with the plebian masses.
>>1261096This is bullshit, no one asked for>it's freeOh well carry on then
>>1263592What like the Iriquois?
>>1263938From what I heard Civ VII developed got nuked from orbit by covid so they had to work on it way slower. By comparison making some more leaders for VI requires way less work since the base game is already done.That being said I don't mind, I thought it was a waste to introduce the alternate leaders concept and then only give us a few alts for the longest time.>>1265730Yes
>>1263193>we need a new enemy against whom we have to compete.China? I mean I know it's a paper tiger but it refuses to believe that that's the case.
>>1264790Bonus power against players who use the vampire unit
>>1262569>but that same source describes Justinian ripping his own head off and running around his palace at night spewing fireIt'd be pretty fucking cool if he did
>>1262676At this point, yes. If you asked me a few years back I would've said no.
>>1262803Keep in mind he was pretty damn tall for his age (the dude was 6'4'' when most people were like 5'8'') so that makes him look thinner in person.
>>1263554The Kongo Kingdom is inseparably tied to slavery, you literally can't discuss them without talking about it because the slave trade transformed them from a fairly humble kingom into one of the most powerful and richest kingdoms in Africa, only for it all to collapse with the european abolition of slavery.
>>1263913I just turn off Diplomatic Victory at this point
>>1263932I don't mind the content of the trailer but goddamn is the announcer a step down from the woman who did everything previously.
>>1265796>Titus is Al Caponekek
>>1265736Actually, the ruling elite of the city of Rome didn't change. The senatorial families largely survived late-antiquity and simply became leading families within the church during the Middle-Ages.
>>1265828I mean Al Capone was born to first-generation Italian immigrants so he would still look 100% Italian.
>>1265796A bunch of those are a stetch but Scipio and Pompey are fucking uncanny.
>>1265796Dio mio... i terroni di Roma...
It's 21st of November... where's my fucking leader pass?!
>>1266854This shit usually drops when its morning on the west coast so wait another 3-4 hours.
>>1266854>he doesnt know
It's so weird to not give any information on how these leaders work before launch dayIt's almost anti-marketing
Tokugawa better be a fat piece of shit this time
>Lincoln's downside is lower loyalty from plantationslol
The leader abilities are outLincoln>NEW ABILITY: EMANCIPATION PROCLAMATION>(Base game) Industrial Zones and their buildings give +2 Amenities but your Plantations give -1 Amenities.>(Rise and Fall & Gathering Storm DLCs) Industrial Zones give +3 Loyalty per turn but your Plantations give -2 Loyalty. >(Base game) Receive a free Melee unit after constructing Industrial Zones and their buildings. The free unit does not require resources when created or to maintain and receives +5 Combat Strength.>(Rise and Fall & Gathering Storm DLCs) Receive a free Melee unit and an Amenity after constructing Industrial Zones and their buildings. The free unit does not require resources when created or to maintain and receives +5 Combat Strength.Nzinga>NEW ABILITY: QUEEN OF MATAMBA AND NDONGO>+5 Combat Strength against Civilization's whose capital is on a different continent.>Trade Routes to receive +20% Yields with Civilizations whose home continents are the same as yours, but -15% to Trade Routes to other Civilizations.Saladin>NEW ABILITY: THE VICTORIOUS MILITARY>+100% Flanking and Support Bonus to all Combat and Religious units.https://civilization.com/leader-pass/packs/great-negotiators/
>>1266968The controversial part for lincoln was probably the free unit, because I can see that getting really retarded quickly when you start chopping out industrial zones in every city
the Steam page tells me I have to buy the pass even though I have all the products in the Anthology, wtf it was supposed to be free
>>1266968apparently these are outright wrong>>1266983I guess they done goofed, nobody has it lol
>>1266968>>1266985Kongo is wrong, Lincoln and Saladin are correct.Also, >the great negotiators>gives Arabia an outright warmongering bonuslol
>>1266968>pack called "Great Negotiators">all three leaders have military bonus>none has diplomatic onelel
>>1266991His bonus is fucking crazy thoughDouble flanking bonuses on something like a mamluk is stupid, and it also applies to religious units and healing and shit, and the arabia bonuses will provide the science/religion backbone that a lot of domination civs like to have
>download patch>reverts to base game with no dlcchrist
>>1266996Same thing happened to meBetween the way the handled ability reveals, the contradictions on their site on the abilities, the newgrounds tier reveal trailer, and now this, it's increasingly apparent that this was a slapdash DLC made on a shoestrkng budget by a skeleton crew
>>1266996>>1267003what a shitshow
>Decide to launch on a Monday afternoon of all fucking times>People don't have access to the pack even though they own all the required DLC's>Game only launches in Vanilla mode because you can't connect to 2k serversI was looking forward to playing a game as Abe or Caesar, fucks sake
Why the hell doesn't Arabia have a desert start bias? I hate having to re-roll a dozen times just to satisfy my autism.
>>1267036Why would you want desert tiles for a Civ that has absolutely no benefits from them?
>>1267038>satisfy my autism.gee I wonder
I bought Anthology and I dont own the leader pass anyway
>>1261096the fuck is up with kangzingas ability? Its just the Mayans ability but better making the Mayans obsolete.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OXvrCskQWbQCaesar sounds bad
>>1267075How far the mighty have fallen
>>1267065Not at all. Mayans have a science output that is over the roof plus their farms are valuable since they are boosted by observatories and boots observatories in return. Mayans are also not hard bound to continent borders, they are bound by the terrain itself which is similar but way less restrictive. They also get combat strength at home and the Hul'che is insane unit on the defense that requires no startegic resources.Mbande (and Kongo in general) has NOTHING that can even contest the massive science output of Maya. They can get yields but they need relics and artworks to unlock their potential. Then by design Kongo is a tall civ in a game that mostly rewards wide play which is their core problem. Mbande will be better at supporting tall play than Nzinga but they are hamstrung by the randomness of continent spawns. The Ngao Mbeba is just an okay defensive unit that needs iron.So no, not even close.Tough FINALLY Kongo can have a religion instead of just passively waiting for someone to come and give you a religion which for the AI is usually trash. That offers Kongo a great flexibility which they need to go for their tall play.
>>1267036Start biases are usually reserved for civs that desperately needs certain tiles to function properly (like the Inca)Arabia has no need for desert tiles, and thus doesn't have a start bias
>>1266992Lincoln never really got a chance to be a peacetime president
>>1266996>>1267003Works for me. Maybe it's because I forked out the shekels because I didn't want to wait for them to fix the "free" part
>>1261096I know it's impossible but I want new official content for Civ V... Like a deluxe edition of the Mongol conquest scenario... Pls Firaxis I'll be your good paypig pls
>>1267075>>1267082It is not listed but it has been rumored that Caesar will have second ability that give him a wildcard slot fort the first time they conquer a rival's civ's capital. Which isn't big at the start but on the long term can help you conquest in the late game and likely will scale with the number of civs in the game.As for Gold on conquering cities and barb camps I feel this is underrated. Caesar's Rome will be an early game rush civ. Last time I checked it costs 200 gold to upgrade a warrior to legion which is exactly the money Caesar gets from conquering a city. Then those Legion can start chopping forests to produce more legions and the snowball commences. Getting 100 gold from a barb camp is a big money in the early game, it can get you a lot of things. Like buying iron for those legions or a trader faster than even Trajan could get one.The big problem with conquering in the early game is that newly conquered cities become a money drain for quite some time due to the occupation penalties, Caesar completely eliminates this huge issue. Otherwise you can only immediate gains from going to war early is pillage yields, but if you pillage the city then conquering it after only make things a greater money drain for you.The instant free Roads will also allow Caesar to move his reinforcing armies faster from home.Loosing the free monument from Trajan does hurt a lot but otherwise Rome is a very solid civ at the core. Giving Caesar a better ability would just make Rome ridiculously OP it is already very good civ.
>>1267118Bro 5 is 12 years old and running on an old engine Just download mods
>>1267127>It is not listed but it has been rumored that Caesar will have second ability that give him a wildcard slot fort the first time they conquer a rival's civ's capitalIt wasn't rumored, it was quite literally in the description of his abilities on their website even though it conteadicted their video and the ingame screenshot Same thing happened with Nzinga
>>1267127>take city with warrior somehow>upgrade him to a legion (if you have iron lol)>chop the other legion out but only with 5 turns to establish magnus and if there is forest around >till you are done AI has Man at Arms because the tech tree is a messNah he sounds lame
>>1267114they released another patch to fix the reversion to 1.0giving them $20 to speed up a free update is pretty cucked of you
>>1267127he'd be cool if they didn't want you to make an account just to get him, 2k are the last people who should ask for that shit at this point
>>1267130MaA is just +5 combat strength up from the Legion. MaA is 45CP Legion is 40CP while Swordsman is 35CP. Legions can still hold their own vs. MaA because the AI dumb as a rock in combat.
>>1266983It's currently broken
Lincoln seems like a straight downgrade from either Teddy and it doesn't seem like his ability really compliments the rest of America's traits
>>1267075I mean in fairness we have no idea what the fuck he sounds like, we just project the idea that a big manly man has to have a big manly voice. By contrast that's what people in common conciousness thought Teddy Roosevelt sounded like when audio recordings say the exact oppositehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uhlzdjPGxrs
>>1261096They arent even making new leaders half the time just the same leader in a different outfit so they can save on voice acting
>>12639136 fucking blows in wide v tall because population in a city is worthless and having more citites is always better and any bonus you can get always ends up being more useful the more citites you have. Having a penalty for citites was retarded but they could just add a pop growth and district bonus to tall cities if you have less than x cities
What do amenities actually do? Because I just ignore that shit.
>>1267154Constant free units is a pretty good bonusThe loyalty penalties are pretty pointless though, I wish they had stuck with amentitiesWhat they were going for is you use America's wildcard slot to try to compensate for not building plantations, but since the malus is pretty unsubstantial I doubt anyone's going to care And the free super soldiers is about as good as rough rider teddy
Wait so is the Leader Pass actually free if you own all previous dlc? Because I don't have it despite owning all previous dlc
>>1267178It's supposed to be, but the launch is scuffed. I've heard reports of people getting it when they restarted Steam, whereas other people are complaining that they can't even buy it while having every other piece of DLC.Personally, I have all the DLC and it's $20 for me, so I'm just waiting until they figure their shit out.
>>1267181Guess I'll wait then, I have other games to play anyway
>>1267173>Ecstatic: If a city has at least 3 more Amenities than required, all of the city's non-Food yields increase by +10%, and its Population growth increases by +20%.>Happy: If a city has 1-2 Amenities more than required, all non-Food yields increase by 5%, while Population growth increases by +10%.>Content: If a city has the exact number of Amenities it requires, there are no bonuses or penalties applied.>Displeased: If a city has 1-2 Amenities less than required, all non-Food yields by the city decrease by 5%, while Population growth decreases by 15%.>Unhappy: If a city has 3-4 Amenities less than required, all non-Food yields decrease by 10%, while Population growth decreases by 30%.>Unrest: If a city has 5-6 Amenities less than required, all non-Food yields decrease by 30%. In addition, Rebel units may begin to appear in the city's territory.Revolt: If a city has at least 7 fewer Amenities than required, all non-Food yields also decrease by 60%. Rebel units will appear much more frequently and in greater numbers than ever before.Generally you should pay more attention to your Amenities, because the more you have the bettwer your cities will do
>>1267183It seems like unless I spam entertainment districts I'm always a few below.
>>1267173Increase or decrease the yields of your cities by a significant amount, from +20% to -30%. It's always a good idea to buy new, unique luxuries and trade away your excess duplicates. If you're a warmonger you'll probably have a lot of unhappiness from being at war for centuries at a time, so it hits them harder.
>>1267157I don't think recordings of that era tell you much about voice outside of cadence, most voices sound higher pitched than they probably were
>>1267184I would say expansion and trade are the best ways to keep your amenities up. The AI is almost always willing to accept one-to-one trades for luxuries they don't have. If you're not at war but you have a standing army, there's also a policy card that lets you garrison military units in cities for a free +1. Entertainment complexes, wonders, and certain religious beliefs also help.Usually the way it goes is this:>If I'm at war, my amenities are shit>If I have good diplomatic relations with 1-2 other civs and a lot of coastal cities, my amenities are overflowing
>>1267173Their effect is significant enough but I always fall into ignoring them because maintaining them is tedious
>>1267157leaving the voice aside, and also noting that I know jack shit about Latin but this guy seems to be reading it in a non-Classical way unlike Trajan
>game downgrading to 1.0>people not getting the pass for free despite owning all the dlc>other people getting it randomly>try to link 2k account to at least get caesar>2k's site can't even loadflawless launch
>leader pass listed as 0€ with "add to your account" button on steam>doesn't worklol worth a shot
>Play Caesar>Want to be aggressive to make use of his bonus>For once my two closest civs are far enough away that an early war is impossible>Research Bronze Working>Zero iron near my territory or in territories I can settle inAt least I made a cool extra 6-700 off of barb camps, I guess
>>1267203Worked for me but I made the account back when Caesar was announced
>>1267253It took me about an hour of just F5'ing in the background until I got an error saying I couldn't create an account, meaning it worked at some point behind all the error messages. Then just spammed the verify account link until the same thing happened. Still don't have the leader pass, of course.
>>1267255The site must be swamped atm if I can take a guess.
>Playing Caesar because Steam refuses to give me the leader pass for free>Find a barbarian encampment>Raiding it gives 150 gold instead of 50 gold>Park my military there to train my new units>Find another one>I'm getting 300 free gold every 10 turns>And now I have an army of promoted units ready to fight an actual war for even more goldI do appreciate that Caesar benefits the most from murdering barbarians and taking all their shit. It's easy to buy even settlers with the gold you make from raiding.
Man, Abe is pretty fun.
>>1267280I seriously don't understand ehy people insisted free gold was weakSince barbarians will spawn in unseen territories you can effectively create a gold farm with strategic unit placement and a bit of luckNot being able to rush political science hurts but it's far from bad
>>1267310I ended up with a perfect example of this without trying to. On one hand, I have to divert part of my army away from the front to make sure I'm not being raided by barbarian crossbowmen, but beyond that I'm getting fat stacks every 10 turns.
So those that are impatient, if you add something else to your cart and then add the bundle via https://store.steampowered.com/bundle/21432/Sid_Meiers_Civilization_VI_Anthology/ it'll let you add it to your cart for free.The catch is that you have to buy the other thing in your cart as well.
>>1267351Does it actually work anon?If you buy it does it give you the leader pass?
>>1267352I can confirm it works. Playing as Lincoln now
>>1267351I'll wait to see how long this stays fucked before I actually shell out some cash to trick the store.
>>1263911lmao civ 6 is still shit compared to 5
>>1267345Aaaaand it's gone to shit
>>1267387Based urban sprawl chad
>>1261815Young Victoria is best Victoria.
>>1261815Old Victoria was wider than she was tall, she wouldn't even fit in the diplo screen.
>>1266992>>1266968Unironically, Teddy Roosevelt should've gotten a 2nd costume. He was known for being a great negotiator. The only other presidents known for being great negotiators would be John Quincy Adams (lol), Rutherford B. Hayes (LOL), Herbert Hoover (lmao even), and Donald Trump (too recent, too controversial). I guess you could also try for Woodrow Wilson, but he was kinda bad at being a negotiator.
>>1267036The Dutch and English always spawn completely landlocked in my games. Portugal a lot of the times too.
>>1267173It's just overdesigned global happiness. The game goes out of its way to make you think it's something more complicated.
>>1267434Bill Clinton negotiated the peace agreement between PM Yitzhak Rabin of Israel and King Hussein of Jordan that has lasted to this day. It was the one treaty of those 90s Camp David accords that managed to never fall apart.Similar conflict, Carter brought together the Begin/Sadat governments to peace.But maybe those 2 are considered too recent.
>>1263594I'd be down with a Judea civ under David or Solomon. I'm honestly kinda surprised they never did it. Fuck I'll take Judea under King Herod and he was basically just a Roman puppet.
>>1267440Is mediating a couple of minor peace agreements between parties on the other side of the world really make you a "Great Negotiator?" Wouldn't someone who actually negotiated for the benefit of their actual civilization, and not some third party they are vaguely aligned with, be a better fit?
>>1262744sista Nzinga i kneel.
>>1262744These leader models looked like they were outsourced to some chink company that usually only makes mobile games lmao
Lincoln seems like Montezuma tier to meDecent at domination, some combat buffs that will keep him competitive but not enough to be on the level of high tier domination civs like Bolivar or the Gauls, and enough support to flexibly play how you want while still rewarding a lean into domination. Nothing crazy but good enough and will probably prove to be fun long termCaesar is certainly less flexible than Trajan, but if you get lucky with barbarian spawns your economy is going to go crazy, and the scaling is nice. Firmly weaker than trajan but still funNzinga is Khmer tier broken just from having access to religion. A passive yield boost for simply being on one continent, and all the massive bonuses from Kongo's civ ability will make her the uncontested queen of playing tall. You won't be able to compete religiously and her culture output is going to be very annoying. Might be a 'wipe out as soon as you see her' to avoid having to compete late game against this bullshit Ironically, despite being a simple combat bonus, saladin might be the one that requires the most experimentation. The knight rush might be back, might not. A guaranteed religion is a guaranteed religion, and his ability plays into the effectiveness of his religious units, but actually making the most of that is something that needs some theorycrafting
>>1266968>Great negotiators>Bonus to gangbanging enemy units from as man sides as possible.Oh.By the way stacked embarked units and naval ships count as 2 (8 combat bonus)
EtemenangkiBologna+Geneva+Kilwaand just this one campus with this much science I dont need lol
>>1267464Yeah these all look terrible. Schizo take right here: they only made this pass to test the waters. They want to see what kind of quality they can get away with so they can lower production costs. Thats why its free/quasi free, so if it flopped if was uncontroversial. Of course, their jewtube cucks, the redditors and forum shitters are slurping it right up without complaint so dont expect much effort in this series anymore.
>>1267544You entitled fucks will bitch about anything.
>>1267545Have some standards you pathetic bug.
>>1267547There's having standards and there's being rude. You are rude and entitled, like a spoiled child. You have poor parents.
>>1267548This drivel could only possibly make sense to a female brain, so tits or GTFO
>>1267553Now you're just being silly.
>>1267555Yeah well the new leaders look like shit and they sound like shit and you gobble it right up and you are proud about it too lmao>you dont want to eat shit? You have poor parents!Stupid woman
>>1267563It was free.
>wake up>still isn't credited to my accountwhack, but I'm not paying valve to get some crap leaders
Was able to use cash from trading cards to buy some trash 20 cent game to force the unlock then I refunded it.
>>1267639Yeah I did the same.
>>1267544Bro take your meds
Is this shit still broken?
People have satamined the next leaders>Tokugawa's Bakuhan: International Trade Routes receive -25% Yield and Tourism, but Domestic Trade Routes provide +1 Culture, +1 Science, and +2 Gold for every Specialty District at the Destination. Cities within 6 tiles of Japan's capital receive +4 Amenities and after researching Flight receive +1 Tourism for every District.>Nader Shah's Sword of Persia: +5 Combat Strength when attacking full Health Units. Cities not founded by Nader Shah receive +2 Faith and +3 Gold on Domestic Trade Routes>Suleiman Kunani',s The Magnificent: +15% Science and Culture when in a Golden Age or Heroic Age. +4 Combat Strength when not in a Golden Age or Heroic Age against Civilizations who are also not in a Golden Age or Heroic Age.
>>1267714Suleiman (they didn't add his model to the game files)
>>1267721meh you'll still want to stick with Hojo if you're more comfortable waging war.
>>1267721>not a flat slobdropped
>>1267714Are domestic trade routes ever worth it past the very beginning stages of the game? You can make so much more off of international routes whenever I look. When I see bonuses to domestic routes I think of them as kind of bad.
>>1267729maybe on Prince when the AI doesn't develop any cities until after you win
>>1267729Developing new cities fast
>>1267729it always sucked and still does, even with the inca/persia abilities.the only way to make domestic trade routes is if they give a policy card similar to wisselbanken/e-commerce
>>1267729Domestic make sense if you want to fast grow a city. Put like 4 trade routs on a small city and by the time the routes are done you would have grown the city so much quicker than if you just waited.
In the case of tokugawa the extra gold scaling from districts could potentially keep domestic trade viable into the late game, and the boost to science and culture could help rush some important techs and civics, but missing the halved production on holy sites, encampments, and theaters hurts
>Great negotiatorsTwo of them have out right war monger bonuses and one just has a yield boost, no diplomatic mechanics>Great commandersThe only combat bonuses are situational, most of the abilities are about internal development and culture/science boostslol
>>1267714For the most part these leader abilities don't seem particularly interesting to play
>>1267750It's hard to make a "great commander" idea for Tokugawa when his main strategy was>wait for the enemy to stumble into their own demise like a retard, then capitalize on that
>tfw not a leader
>>1267722>>1267721These models look at lot better
Has anybody actually unlocked the leaders without going through the steam cart method?
>>1267836Some people on the forums say they have, but I don't believe them.
>>1267836i just used cream api
Some of these new leaders seem as though they could’ve used a new unique unit, particularly Nadir Shah.
>>1267852I think it's just underlining that this is because the art team had nothing better to do. They probably didn't want to spend much time on balancing so just slapped some generic if flavorful abilities on them
>>1267173it maintains cities with their yields. the more amenities you have the more productive cities get vise versa amd all the more reason why you should stop ignoring building wonders like temple of artemis and Colosseum
>>1267868I know but entertainment complexes always feel so low-priority to me, unless I turned off cultural victory that game in which case the Theater Square is completely useless.
>>1267905He probably means that art of him as shogun tended to portray him as kinda fat. Black is a slimming color but it's not doing him any favors here.
>>1267836My stean added mine thid morningApparently their 'working with steam' to fix the issue, but not everyone is getting a fix right awayAlso nzinga is fuckibg stupid holy shit
>>1267917I mean as long as I get it eventually for free, I can wait
looks like the add to account button is working now
>>1267836I got the new leaders just by downloading them w/o paying or any extra stepsAlso yeah Nzinga is a runaway train
>>1268041Are landmark names randomly generated in Civ 6 or can you name them yourself?
>>1268042Not sure exactly how they're generated other than the proximity of major civs, but I don't think there's a way to rename them.
Had a free continent to myself as Nzinga after conquering Portugal and Phoenicia, GG
>>1268042Each civ has a catalogue of historical landmark rivers/mountains/lakes near them. First civ to discover them in game uses one of their names.
>>1268041shes greatwhat kongo shouldve been
>>1268041Damn your game looks nice, especially with the whole island being under one empire. Are you playing on archipelago? I always found war a giant pain-in-the-ass in this game so I almost never try to conquer past the classical era until I get access to jet bombers.
>Great Negotiators DLC>2 of 3 leaders are the most military minded leader from their respective nations>none of them have unique diplomatic favor bonuses
>>1268072Civilizations Expanded will fix it. No, seriously, I'm more excited for amod's version of the DLC than I am the DLC itself. Author already confirmed he'll do every leader.
>>1267714I do like Tokugawa's bonus, but then again I love internal trade routes and settling cities as close as possible.>>1267729I always opt for domestic routes until I get a good coastal city with proper international ones, the reform the coinage dedication, or wisselbanken.
>>1268055>Exist>WinNot a fan of Nzinga, she's just the Mayans but more boring.
It finally activated n its own for me.
>>1268069>Are you playing on archipelago?I'm playing on PerfectWorld6's gen, actually. The island generation is usually chunky enough for national parks if you leave space for it. I found from testing it you're guaranteed a water way across the entire globe - no ice or single tile strips of land obstructing a fleet. That and the built-in old world / new world civ placement makes it really good.
>three mamluks standing next to each other can cancel out an entire crusade bonus
Is there a mod that makes neighborhoods civ specific aesthetically. Instead of a bunch of green roofs everywhere?
I'm glad the negotiators don't negotiate because diplomatic victories fucking suck. They sucked in Civ V too. They even suck in stellaris. It's so divorced from the rest of the game, it feels like a crutch victory for when shitters somehow stalemate a game and need a way to win without going to score. With culture, science, religion, even domination, it all feeds back into each other. It feels like an interlinked system where dipping into one pool still left you room to dip into others, where there's room to strategize and react. Diplomacy feeds into nothing. It interacts with nothing. It is an entirely isolated mechanic that intrides upon the gameflow halfway into the game. You may as well turn the game off at the medieval era and play blackjack as the house, that's what going for a diplomatic victory means. I'm not sure how they can fix this in civ 7, it just feels fundamentally fucked
>>1269408>I'm not sure how they can fix this in civ 7, it just feels fundamentally fuckedInherently tie it to being a trustworthy player that any AI who turns on you would be turned into a social pariah?
>>1269419an international pariah, rather. Better way of putting it.
>>1269408Do you even play Civ?Science used to be the last resort, especially in 4. They fixed that in 6.Absolutely no victory type, if you're properly building for it, lets you pivot. You don't react, you plan and follow through.Diplo interacts as much as Science, Culture and Religion do. You focus on getting suzerainties, which give you bonuses along with your desired voting power (which, hint hint, affects the game), along with military interests. These are present throughout the game. Diplo wonders all give bonuses someone other than you is interested in.You seem to be focusing on the victory points more than how you get them. In turn you can say tourists, space programs, captured capitals and converted cities don't do anything for you, because they don't, because they're the goal you're achieving, not the method to achieve them.
>>1267729No.Production inflation is too big for them to help with it but gold inflation is solved by international routes.It's probably intended because of how many mechanics interact with both sending and receiving trade.
>>1267434>Teddy Roosevelt should've gotten a 2nd costume.You mean a 3rd costume?
>>1269461Bull moose is old teddy but renamed
>>1269464Nah, vanilla Teddy and Bull Moose Teddy have different abilities and agendas.
>>1267199His pronounciation of "Caesar" isn't even consistent between lines though
>>1269976>Sayzar>Chayzarloldid they just hire a mexican like with gilgamesh and hammurabi?
>>1261096Is this going to be on Nintendo Switch too?
>>1268082And it's already updated. No Caesar yet, though.>Lincoln+25% Production to industrial zones and their buildings. Upon entering the industrial era, cities with an industrial zone receive +2 amenities and cities without an industrial zone receive -5 loyalty. Military units receive +3 combat strength for each unused movement point. Receive a free melee unit upon constructing an industrial zone or its buildings. This unit receives an additional +5 combat strength and ignores strategic resource requirements.>Saladin+100% Great general points. Encampments grant a standard adjacency bonus to all specialty districts. May purchase encampment buildings with faith. Military and religious units receive double flanking and support bonuses. Training a heavy cavalry unit grants a duplicate of that unit for free.>Ana NzingaCities within 9 tiles of any capitol receive +1 amenity and generate +1 influence point per turn. Regional production and amenity bonuses from industrial zone, entertainment complex, and water park districts extend 3 tiles farther. Trade routes to allies or city-states you are suzerain of provide +4 gold, +2 food, +2 production, and +2 culture to both cities. Military units receive +1 combat strength for each active alliance.Time for a comfy diplomatic victory as Congo.
>>1270788Having tried Nzinga, it works like you'd expect. If you don't have to deal with early aggression or defending city-states, it's easy to get a good diplomatic game going. She still gets Kongo's bonuses from art and relics, so you end up playing a pacifist 3-way split between diplomacy, culture, and religion, although the religion is just to augment your other yields. Very fun, reminds me of playing the Cree.
Who ever designed this pack has a massive hard on for loyalty and I don't understand whyBoth Lincoln and Tokugawa's abilities would be far more impactful and important if they worked on the amenity version instead of loyalty Loyalty is simply not a problem, especially with governors
>>1270914Loyalty just kind of doesn't work. On one hand, in it's current state it doesn't have an impact; on the other hand, if you increase its effect, it isn't fun and it's difficult to control. I've played with a mod that makes it more punishing, and it simply isn't fun. Even governors and the loyalty policies aren't enough to control it and you just feel it snowballing away from you.There's also no bonuses for loyalty, like there are for amenities.
>>1270917It's just a bad system all aroundthe AI can't even deal with it properly because the diplomacy is braindeadlike, they'll forward settle you when you have an alliance, you break it off and snatch a city because the AI goes "oh right, loyalty pressure, initiate PANIK"and then the AI gets angry at you
>trying to get a game going as new, war-focused saladin>spawn alone on an island>spawn next to scotland, but literally every city is impossible to attack and scotland's AI spams heavy chariots>spawn alone on a peninsula full of hills, nubia and korea declare war on me on the same turn before i can raise an army>chop out walls in the city that korea's assaulting>they have nothing but warriors, heavy chariots, galleys, and a single swordsman>holding out fine>somehow my walls go from 70% to dead in one hit and the city gets razed>mfwi don't know why i'm doing to this myself, i fucking hate arabia. such a weak ass civ because they have no early game bonuses and you're forced to do some weird science/religion split that never REALLY works. add in a military focus and now you're stretched between 3 things and benefiting fully from none of them.
>>1270912>pacifistPlaying it wrong, you want to steal works from other civs, not make them yourself, like in real life.
>>1270948Sounds like you suck at the game if you can't make a civ that literally gives you a free religion workStick to Trajan sissy
>Want to do a domination game>Spawn as Montezuma on a Pangaea map>Mountains and hills everywhere>Closest civ too far to rush>Everyone else is across a massive desert that they're not settling>Have so much room to expand I easily settle 13 cities with room for 2-3 more if I want>Decide to just go for a comfy science gameUnexpected, but welcome
>>1261168>>1261280I don’t think there will be a real Civ6 sequel in the 2020s. Games are becoming more timeless with graphics and disk space reaching the point of what developers intended in their visions. I think we need to rethink what sequels even are in the future and the "new installment of the series every few years" will die in the next years and already has died down a lot. Developers simply aren’t restricted as much as they used to be.
>>1261257Ludwig the fairy tale king is not a literal who. The entire world knows Neuschwanstein Castle.
>>1270998t. british museum
>>1271109>Games are becoming more timelessIn the era where yearly releases are still outcompeting live services?
>Montezuma declares war on me despite trading away all my luxuries>>finally break through his catapult spam and capture his capitol>wait for his seething>nothing>he still has a city somewhere>blindly wander east for like 20 turns>have to wipe out 2 barbarian camps filled with swordsmen and archers>finally find his borders>he settled 2 cities off fresh water next to a wonder miles away from his capitoli've never seen the AI leave so much territory empty. i'm guessing he found the wonder early, shidded out the settlers, and then declared war on me and went full military mode before he had a chance to make more. it's funny because he probably would have been a massive threat if he had just back settled all that territory and got ahead in science because of the AI's bonuses.
>>1271387There's a reason the AI gets those bonuses. That's all I'll say on this.
>>1271387For the record, Lincoln is broken in Civilizations Expanded. I like almost all the other changes, but Lincoln is like the best leader for war by a country mile. Free melee units out the ass and crazy combat strength bonuses that he doesn't have to do anything to get. Very fun, but broken.>>1271394I'm used to the retarded AI, but it still surprises me every once in a while.
>>1271387That resource pack would be perfect if it didn't have cheese as a luxury resource.
>>1271421I don't know if it's the same one, but for me it's penguins. How are penguins a luxury?
>>1271438You ever eaten penguin? Right, the elites keep them for themselves.