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>Invasion of Italy
>North African Theatre, Italian Libya
>No Italian faction to play, not even in multiplayer
I have every right to be mad.
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>>1229151
>>1229151
yeah that’s also what made me stop following this game, absurd they have no italian faction.

also i think there was a great opportunity to do a game centred in the east so we could get some actually new asymmetric factions and modes in the form of the commie chinese, nationalist chinese, japanese, island invasion modes etc.

instead we just get germans, germans 2, british and americans again, and not even italians for a new faction.
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I wish, I had a dream of a coh Vietnam. I fear (much like Quinn Duffy had stated was possible) is that a future version of coh in a different setting is possible but the fag ww2 players wont let go of it being ww2 and need to have gay tank battles to fill their dopamine.

Vietnam or pacific would both be super infantry focused, it would be a coh wet dream between the support weapons and harsh terrain that could block line of sight or if they updated the engine could allow for better terraforming terrain given the sand and thick jungles you could blow away with a demo charge.
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>>1229185
Vietnam might be a bit too much because vehicles and artillery are reather important to the game design, but Korean War or Suez Crisis is something doable.
You'd sacrifice a lot of Wehraboo cash but that's something I'm willing to do.
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>>1229630
the us would have a pretty fantastic selection of weird and unique light vehicles honestly, vc would be harder but you could do a vc and nva faction and have one be very infantry focused
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>>1229630
To be charitable, the NVA did have tanks, artillery, and planes ARVN and the Americans usually just had more. But if the factions are ARVN, USA vs NVA, VC then the soviet and Chinese supplied t-55 and later t-62 tanks were better than the American m48 and m60 tanks. It would be a case of the Americans and arvn can have more vehicles on the field but the nva has the better tanks. But the real elephant in the room is the vietcong. They did not fight like a normal army and would need to either be a call in for the nva or the game would need to be balanced around them.
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>>1231646
Vietcong could act like Stormtroopers(CoH1) or Fallschirmjager (CoH1, 2) where they could spawn from off-map or inside a building (this time, from inside vegetation), could have insane DPS on close quarters, could cloak while not moving in cover to setup ambushes.
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>>1229630
>>1231646

I was thinking in the line of being infantry focused rly. Have helicopter loiters, napalm strikes, punji stick traps, maybe some tunnel network buildings or something. It would have to be balanced around a Vietcong or NVA as they would be the asymmetrical loser while the US, ARVN, (may Australia) would hold the expensive yet strong units.
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>>1229151

I agree, not even irregulars, no partisans, no fascist, no co-belligerant italy
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>>1231683
From my limited understanding of the war, speaking to veterans on both sides, and interviewing an old ARVN sergeant that runs a gas station near me, the NVA were about on equal footing with ARVN soldiers, it is only with the vietcong do you see massive differences. If anyone is the asymmetrical loser it would be the VC, the NVA usually could count on some form of armored,artillery and the occasional airsupport (or atleast contest the airspace.)
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>>1231693
yep, that's it. It's Vietcong who's the asymmetric problem, North Vietnamese army had unironically lots of good equipment and good leaders
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>>1229151
Don’t worry, you will play your favorite faction: Afro Americans.
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>>1229151
don't you like germany 1 and germany 2 anon?
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>>1229151
Everything about this looks terrible, just stick with coh 1 and 2
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>>1229151
pre-order the italy dlc
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>>1229151
Relic wont make it good
Relic wont make it balanced
Relic wont make it fun

But you will buy it because, like WoT and WT, it has tanks and you roleplay as a ruskie or a wehraboo. Youre a prisoner of your addiction
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>>1229151
>ww2 game
>Soviet Union not present on a poster even with 1 pixel
>hired most deformed by propagandra brains to write a previous game
Ill take as a win a collective soulcrushing misery west will fall into in every aspect of their life, both left and right, even if nukes will never break out (they probably wont)
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>>1229630
Wehraboo cash is precisely why this series has been nothing but "fighting Nazis in Europe in 1944" for its entire existence. There is nothing mechanically about the game that prevents it from being set with different opponents in a different place, merely that Sega is taking the easy road and milking Wehraboos for cash, as they are easily parted with their money by any game whatsoever that lets you play as the Nazis.
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>>1241385
>xir is so disheartened by the state of his western country, its afraid even of lightest internet bants by naming it
how does it feel to look at the whitest person u see on the street and know that hes grandson will 100% be named Ahmed?
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>>1241403
Your country literally has state-sponsored Jihadists fighting for it. You allow a muslim theocracy to exist within your country.
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>>1241430
Thats actually based no matter how youll put it. People keep presenting this from every angle to me (white people killed by browns blah blah).
But to have state sponsored micro jihad state, definitely earns more kino points than any other micro warfare state u can think of. (even though u inevitable get occational chimpouts cause of it)
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>>1241436
Why don't you just admit you have no reason to love Russia and hate the West beyond "my tribe good, you tribe bad"? Why do you even attempt to make such ridiculous "justifications"?
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>>1241465
not him but
There's no reason to do the opposite either
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Can't you stay on topic for more than 5 minute you stupid chickens?
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>>1241366
Guilty as charged.
Good thing about 3 is all the preorder dlc and collector edition crap is for the US so it saves me money.
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>>1241366
Would be kinda weird to have a ww2 game without Germany, like you can do the pacific and chinese front, but I don't think it's the lack of Germans that make such titles less popular, but more that jungle fighting and massacring chinese peasants is kinda ass gameplay wise.

I get that this is the the third title where they've pulled the two German factions trick, but it would always be difficult to fully equip a fully Italian or Romanian faction,

I remember playing as the Italian faction in Codename Panzers Phase 2, and it ended up with a lot of your heavy equipment being german and the afrika korps being a significant portion of your forces
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>>1241351
>game about italian and african front
>Hurr durr why no ruzzianz?!
Go back
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>>1241815
The other problem is that Japs are only fearsome early war and then in the late war their entire industrial capacity shits itself and they can't even put out anything to match the Sherman in large numbers.
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>>1241815
>but it would always be difficult to fully equip a fully Italian or Romanian faction
Italians are very easy to do and can be made very distinctive. You just don't want to and prefer multiple german factions.
I saved it some time ago and I think this concept is more than enough.
idk about Romanians but Hungarians could make a fine faction too. And yeah this time they would inevitably eventially get some german equipment, but official foreign gear somehow wasn't an issue for Brits in CoH1 or Soviets in CoH2.
I just want some fresh air.
>>1242272
A Pacific Front game would have to not include Americans to be somewhat balanced and I'm not even joking.
A CoH game more about artillery and infantry would be cool, however. A more asymmetrical approach like the Winter War or Indochinese Wars, for example.
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>>1242333
fuck, wrong image, lmao
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>>1242333
>A Pacific Front game would have to not include Americans to be somewhat balanced and I'm not even joking.
a pacific front would have to include china and naval battles and there would be much vehicles
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>>1229151
this game's art is dumb
everyone looks yassified
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>>1242147
>italian and african front
who?
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>>1242533
are you one of those faggots who think that there was only the western front?
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>>1242333
1 gear forward 6 reverse
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>>1243744
kino and you can't convince me otherwise
all the italian jank is just perfectly built for a glass cannon faction
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>>1243759
>make one wing a few inches longer than the other
>plane doesn't yaw anymore
italians are so smart
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Should have been the Pacific.
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>>1241403
Are you talking about Moscow?
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>>1241366
>>1241366
Ww2 was barely anything else but fighting Nazis in the western and eastern fronts. The Italians were a joke until Rommel and the germans showed up to save their asses and the japs didn't do much of shit outside the Pacific naval conflicts and the Philippines.

For a land focused ww2 rts game there's not much else here for them unless they change wars to ww1 which would still revolve around germans or Vietnam which strategy devs seem to shy away from due to the fundamental differences between world war era and cold war era conflicts not to mention controversy concerning more recent conflicts like 'nam.

'Wehraboo's wouldn't been such a big thing if game devs didn't make it such a taboo to play as Nazi Germany in a video game in the first place and rts games are about the only way you can really place as a Nazi since fps games always have you playing an allied soldier or at most a Nazi turncoat who realizes 'were the baddies!'.
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>>1243783
in moscow even the muslins are white. Cope.
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>>1243809
sure, sasha, sure
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>>1242333
no anzio no buy
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>>1243810
okay, mohammed
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>>1243809
Tatars, Chechens, Dagestanis, Azerbaijanis, Uzbeks and Kazakhs are white now?
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>>1243853
Chechens and Dagestanis maybe but the rest clearly not
also get the fuck back on the topic, enough polfaggotry
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>>1243801
>Ww2 was barely anything else but fighting Nazis in the western and eastern fronts.
This is so fucking Eurocentric it's excruciating. Kys.
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Literally what the fuck is their problem?
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>>1243986
burn alive
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>>1229151
CoH Axis factions have always been
>Regular Germans
>Fast Germans
It's so fucking stupid we don't have an Italy faction on launch but I'm sure it will be $20 DLC
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>>1244010
You mean:
>Working as intended Germans
>Shit and broken Germans
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>>1243986
You just know that a woman wrote this
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>>1244180
>>1244010
>Germans on edge of defeat, resorting to using volksgrenidiers to bolster their veterans
vs
>CRAAAAAZY jetpack Nazis with the wunderwaffen
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>>1243986
Source?
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>>1244010
>>1244180
I think you mean
>Heer
>not-the-SS-we-swear
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>>1244204
Nope. Just that flowery way of writing that comes from French.
>>1244497
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>>1243986
based beyond measure
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>>1243986
The Chad Italian Aesthetic Fascist vs the Virgin German Literal Fascist
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>>1245194
this

mussolini and hitler are the chad vs virgin meme in real life
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>>1245272
>chad
>tries to invade greaseballs and fails
>killed by your own people
>body is shot, pissed and spat on, beaten until unrecognizable
>hanged
italy is the only country to be ruled by a comic book villain
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>>1245272
More like the fake chad Mussolini vs the real chad Hitler
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>>1245280
>shitler
>chad
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>>1245283
>experts say
Not this old yid projection again.
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>>1245283
(((evidence)))
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>>1245283
Hate him if you want but Hitler was Chad as fuck, guy literally had to get every other superpower to ally to take his Reich down and his soldiers blitzkrieged over the world in style never seen before or since. Mussolini did Jack shit, led a nation of incompetent weaklings, and then got his ass killed by his own people.
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>>1245296
you should be killed
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>>1245297
mussolini never accomplished even a fracture of that, wake up paulo
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>>1245301
the point is you called italians weaklings when that's obviously not true
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>>1245297
Woah calm down little fella no need for asshurt like that, and the ancient Romans and modern Italians might as well be two different people's. Whatever the ancient Romans had that made them conquerors was lost over the dark ages.
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>>1245303
poltranny cope>>1244003
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>>1245302
primo, not me
secundo
>ancient romans
>italians
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>>1245302
>>1245303
>>1245309
Nta but how do nazis cope with the fact that the main genetic difference between ancient romans and modern italisns is germanic admixture from all those migrating tribes.
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>>1245315
the years of arabic control of italia and iberia were the best years for both of those regions and i'm not even joking
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>>1245321
ok mihammad

>>1245319
southern europeans should be deported to their ancestral home in north africa
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>4:38 in Europe
>19:38-23:38 in America
>"muh nordic" spam
You will never be a real German.
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>italy faction
>only tier 1/2 units because they couldn't make anything worth a damn

yes I'm sure you'll love to play it
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>>1246896
>>1242336
let me guess, you also think that "Enemy at the Gates" is a historically accurate movie?
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>>1245315
Fake and gay
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>>1245115
>Nope. Just that flowery way of writing that comes from French
Jesus Christ
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>>1245302
Im Italian but that's a fake quote. 2/3 of the men Rommel led were italians though, and the italian navy managed to keep the logistic route open until the end
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>>1229151
>I have every right to be mad.
No you don't. Italians were a non-factor in WWII. They don't deserve to be represented in any WWII game.
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>>1243981
>Ww2 was barely anything else but fighting Nazis in the western and eastern fronts.
>This is so Le eurocentric
>in the western and eastern fronts.
learn 2 read plebbitor
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>>1247614
then why is soviet union in the game?
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>>1248142
Poor bait
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>>1248162
Not even baiting. You said that Italians shouldn't be in the game because they did poorly in ww2. In that case the soviets shouldn't be in the game as well since all they did was mass human wave attacks against Germans until 1943 when the second front was opened.
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>>1247741
Kys, you know its perfectly valid to read it that way. For me to think you were only talking about europeans fronts youd need to specifiy that at the beginning of the sentence. Learn2syntax, chud.
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>>1247614
The only reason there was fighting in Africa for nearly 3 years was because of Italy.
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>thread ruined by autistic "muh white race" poltards
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>>1248170
Certified mutt moment holy shit
Soviets literally took the biggest hit of everyone and fucking BEGGED to open the western front earlier
They held out better than they had any right to do and then started to steamroll after Kursk
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>>1247614
They're no less of a factor as Britbongs
Of course you just want to be a burgerboo or a wehraboo
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>>1248803
Chinks cheat on IQ tests.
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>>1248803
bullshit image
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DAK was exactly what I wanted. Wops can stay irrelevant.
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>>1249846
THOSE GOLEM NPC TROGLODYTES ISRAEL MADE OF SO MANY PEOPLE HAD SOULS ONCE! IMAGINE THE INFERNAL UNPARALLELED RAGE THE SOULS WILL FEEL IF SPARKED AGAIN! THAT SPARK OF TRUE AWARENESS

WE ALL COULD BE IMMORTAL GODS VIA THE SLIGHTEST REAL PROGRESS AND INNOVATION

HEAVEN AND UTOPIA IS NOT IDEALISM! IT IS THE MOST NATURAL STATE OF HUMANITY
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>>1247614
>Italians were a non-factor in WWII

They were the only member of axis in Europe that could threaten the allies at sea
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>>1249852
Why are Israelis like you scared shitless by Italy? Posting all these dumb disunity memes.

If you are really going to stand agains progress and immortality then regress and die
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>>1249856
^If you are really going to stand *against* progress and immortality then regress and die
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>>1249846
>Italy is a fully 100% Nazi country in 2022 and is prospering exponentially
You do realize they started development of CoH3 before 2021 right?

I honestly can no longer tell if tards on this site are actually going full schizo or only pretending to be.
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>>1248803
Ayyyy mambo no 5
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>nu-relic
It's gonna be shit
Just play MoW, or better yet - Graviteam Tactics
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>>1246904
>Enemy at the Gates" is a historically accurate movie?
Nta, and not speaking for the whole movie, but if you are referring to the famous "one gets a rifle, if he dies another picks it up" scene then unironically yes it's accurate... for a limited time in the Stalingrad theater. Probably around the time when Germans held like 90% of the city and Soviets were scrambling to put up any resistance. Luckily for the Soviets, German autism crept in and they deprioritized the siege of Stalingrad to the point where Soviets could make a come back even with their own brand of autism. It is not hard to believe that in the earlier stages of the Russian comeback some central planning fucker fucked up and only sent in conscripts without the rifles. Wanting to avoid getting gulag'd commies do the natural thing and own up to their mis-sha! Take the rifle! You are better shot than me. Just promise you wi- *bang*
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>>1241366
>Literally never show germans doing anything morally questionable
>Buff the fuck out of their tanks, and infantry, make them all unjustifyably strong
Its pretty shameless
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>>1249892
Nope
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>>1249890
Graviteam tactics is completely different game it might as well be different genre.
Company of heroes and men of war are like 10:1 scale. Soldiers shoot at each other from 30 meters and tanks have max range of 200m.
Graviteam tactics on the other hand is 1:1 scale
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I'm glad that a portion of the russian faggots that whined about the "unfair" representation of soviets in COH2 are dead and rotting in some ukranian field. I hope they had fun being shipped to the front without gear or supplies before they got killed by a robot dropping grenades.
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>>1229151
Italy was a fascist country. You are only allowed to play as ZOG approved nations like the USSR or England.
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>>1250249
>italy
>not zog
mussolini said race doesn't exist
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>>1249890
>just play a completely different game!
How many times you nigs gonna parasite from CoH threads instead of making your own?
Ah yes, because nobody posts in those except few autists posting masturbatory fanfics.
MoW is literally in the same place it was decade ago, because people responsible for engine left back then, and company just releases derivative scenarios.
GT threads are just salty armchair tacticians angry that nobody wants to see yet another epic AI rape screen story.

Make a thread about MoW2 and shill it there.
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>>1241351
Asiatic orcs lost ww2, kys
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>>1250282
>orcs
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>>1250299
Yea, orcs at least just burn and kill.
Russians also add a lot of rape and looting to the mix.
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>>1250361
literal reddit
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>>1250361
But rape is where 99% of Half-Orcs come from, not to mention that even if you're just thinking of Warhammer, looting is one of the defining features of them.
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>>1241351
It's refreshing to see a modern game not include non-whites for diversity.
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>>1250299
>>1250363
>>1250421
Kys vatnigger orcs
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>>1250609
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kys
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/pol/niggers get out
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italy when?
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moors
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>>1246904
straw man autist argument
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>>1248803
this graph could be about smallest dick sizes and the ranking would still be accurate
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>>1250693
le epic troll
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>>1257263
reminder italians:
>invented nuclear reactors
>have the most astronauts in the EU
>are fucking your mom right now
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kys
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>>1257278
Sounds awfully close to what happened in real history. Whats your point?
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>>1250249
>You are only allowed to play as ZOG approved nations
Albania?
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>>1241351
>North africa front
>"Why no russia blyat"
I can't understand how you people manage to be so stereotypical.
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>>1229151
>takes place right after italy falls just to avoid making them a faction
>turns US army into green toy soldiers
>krauts are wearing the wrong uniforms again
it's all so tiresome
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>>1241351
When you got your game focusing on your front you all collectively decided to chimp out because muh historical accuracy to the point CoH2 isnt even sold in your backwater country, you quintuple snownigger

Reap what you've sown, mongolian
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>>1260833
i mean they had the right to be mad there, coh2's campaign is just enemy at the gates but as a game, which, you know, isn't exactly accurate and reinforced multiple myths.
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>>1229151
Italians dont care about ww2 so no point of adding them as a faction, the few italians that care about it will simply play germany
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>>1260902
>coh2's campaign is just enemy at the gates but as a game
And CoH1 was Saving Private Ryan/A Bridge Too Far which was as equally bullshit in terms of historical accuracy and just the usual hollywood WW2 flick that a handful of us grew up on
Only the snowniggers threw a fit about it, everyone else just didn't care and played the game or didn't care and didn't play the game.
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>>1229185
Men of War tried a Vietnam thing and it wasn't that great.
Jungles are really no fun to play in since you don't see either your own nor the enemy units half the time.
There are plenty of interesting conflicts though they could do. Korea, Afghanistan (any of the 200 wars from there) or now even shit like Ukraine would be pretty kino to play and not as cliché
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I am kinda exited for the game.
New Front to fight in, equipment we havent seen before and Italians make an appearance as battlegroups or something.
And the game looked nice in the last dev-video.

I cant be the only one right?
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>>1245411
i hope you get fucking killed
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>>1261098
consoomer
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>>1229151
>>No Italian faction to play, not even in multiplayer
I thought the Italians are part of both factions. Like you can get Fascist Italian units as the Germans while the Allies can use partisans and co-belligerent army units.
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>>1248556
It would've been two months of fighting if the Germans hadn't showed up.
>>1249852
>could
And they didn't. The Italian navy performed slightly better than the army but that's hardly an achievement.
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>>1247741
>what is China/India/Burma
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>>1263429
It's still quite unique how art was handled in Italy comparing to other totalitarian regimes
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>>1266732
Italy wasn't totalitarian, it was just a third-world LatAm dictatorship which somehow ended up in Europe. Don't listen to libkeks which try to laugh off the distinction between nazism and fascism
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I swear, all of this polshittery is posted from a dirty basement in Romania by gypsies using stolen phones. There is no other explanation, this is fact.
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What do you guys think about the new twitch gameplay
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I want Italy not because of historical reasons but because I've played Germany for two fucking games already. Also need another axis faction that isn't a flavor of Germany.
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>>1269329
>You will never see Italy because NOT ALL ITALIANS WERE FASCISTS
>You will never see Hungary because NOT ALL HUNGARIANS WERE FASCISTS
>You will never see Vichy France because NOT ALL FRENCH WERE FASCISTS
>You will never see any actual recognition of Waffen-SS because NOT ALL X WERE FASCISTS
>You will have multiple german factions and foreign troops among them because it works this way for some reason
I hate this world.
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>>1269335
I hope they make it at least somewhat moddable with the possibility to add new models and voice lines, or at least to alter infantry textures. Someone will get the glory day one with a mod fixing all the inaccurate uniforms, but I don't care, I only want to make obscure faction mods like Russian Liberation Army or de Gaulle's frogfags.
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>>1269329
Pacific war is begging for COH.
>US marines
>Commonwealth flavours (UK, AUS, CAN, NZ, India)
>Imperial Japanese Army
>Imperial Japanese Naval Army
>Chinese Warlords with their vast wacky variety of gear
>late year Russia for August Storm
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>>1269448
It's 4 allied factions vs 2 axis, as opposed to the already unbalanced 3v2 of CoH2.
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>>1263230
Because being exited for one game makes me a mindless drone that only throws around buzzwords once a singular condition is met.
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>>1229151
I feel you bro, but to be fair, by the time the US was being slaughtered at Kasserine Pass the Italians were done in North Africa. I'm not even sure that Americans and Italians ever fought in NA.
It is interesting that Vichy France is also absent, but hey, shit historical knowledge makes for shit historical games.
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>>1270458
>Vichy France is also absent
I'm pretty certain that in one of the early interviews Relic said both Vichy and Free French units will available to the Axis & Allies respectively.
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>>1269538
>US Pacific Force, Commonwealth/ABDA, Chinese Warlords
>Japanese Army (with local independent rebels), Japanese Navy (focuses on calling in supports), Kwantung Army/Manchuko
How about that? No idea how to differentiate Kwantung roster from Imp Army though.
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>>1269448
>>1270477
>implying it won’t be USMC/UK vs IJN/IJA
No one cares about Chinks and the Russky involvement in the Pacific is irrelevant. Not to mention a Chinese faction would mainly be KMT aligned which would piss off the CCP unless you want to bow down and make the Chinks 100% commies.
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No italy?
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>>1257415
Are you sure you’re not the stereotype? What’s wrong with people loving themselves? What’s wrong with wanting more content?

There should be Italians and Russians.
It’s not that tough to make some skins, stats, models, and to hire a few voice actors.

People are not that fucking demanding and all the complaints I see here are sincere.

I wish for this world to stop feeling like hell.

-A Canadian that was like you long long long ago
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>>1272948
You can love yourself, but you can't force a video game developer to waste resources on adding you where you don't belong. Only trannies do that.



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