>Invasion of Italy>North African Theatre, Italian Libya>No Italian faction to play, not even in multiplayerI have every right to be mad.
>>1229151>>1229151yeah that’s also what made me stop following this game, absurd they have no italian faction.also i think there was a great opportunity to do a game centred in the east so we could get some actually new asymmetric factions and modes in the form of the commie chinese, nationalist chinese, japanese, island invasion modes etc.instead we just get germans, germans 2, british and americans again, and not even italians for a new faction.
I wish, I had a dream of a coh Vietnam. I fear (much like Quinn Duffy had stated was possible) is that a future version of coh in a different setting is possible but the fag ww2 players wont let go of it being ww2 and need to have gay tank battles to fill their dopamine.Vietnam or pacific would both be super infantry focused, it would be a coh wet dream between the support weapons and harsh terrain that could block line of sight or if they updated the engine could allow for better terraforming terrain given the sand and thick jungles you could blow away with a demo charge.
>>1229185Vietnam might be a bit too much because vehicles and artillery are reather important to the game design, but Korean War or Suez Crisis is something doable. You'd sacrifice a lot of Wehraboo cash but that's something I'm willing to do.
>>1229630the us would have a pretty fantastic selection of weird and unique light vehicles honestly, vc would be harder but you could do a vc and nva faction and have one be very infantry focused
>>1229630To be charitable, the NVA did have tanks, artillery, and planes ARVN and the Americans usually just had more. But if the factions are ARVN, USA vs NVA, VC then the soviet and Chinese supplied t-55 and later t-62 tanks were better than the American m48 and m60 tanks. It would be a case of the Americans and arvn can have more vehicles on the field but the nva has the better tanks. But the real elephant in the room is the vietcong. They did not fight like a normal army and would need to either be a call in for the nva or the game would need to be balanced around them.
>>1231646Vietcong could act like Stormtroopers(CoH1) or Fallschirmjager (CoH1, 2) where they could spawn from off-map or inside a building (this time, from inside vegetation), could have insane DPS on close quarters, could cloak while not moving in cover to setup ambushes.
>>1229630>>1231646I was thinking in the line of being infantry focused rly. Have helicopter loiters, napalm strikes, punji stick traps, maybe some tunnel network buildings or something. It would have to be balanced around a Vietcong or NVA as they would be the asymmetrical loser while the US, ARVN, (may Australia) would hold the expensive yet strong units.
>>1229151 I agree, not even irregulars, no partisans, no fascist, no co-belligerant italy
>>1231683From my limited understanding of the war, speaking to veterans on both sides, and interviewing an old ARVN sergeant that runs a gas station near me, the NVA were about on equal footing with ARVN soldiers, it is only with the vietcong do you see massive differences. If anyone is the asymmetrical loser it would be the VC, the NVA usually could count on some form of armored,artillery and the occasional airsupport (or atleast contest the airspace.)
>>1231693yep, that's it. It's Vietcong who's the asymmetric problem, North Vietnamese army had unironically lots of good equipment and good leaders
>>1229151Don’t worry, you will play your favorite faction: Afro Americans.
>>1229151don't you like germany 1 and germany 2 anon?
>>1229151Everything about this looks terrible, just stick with coh 1 and 2
>>1229151pre-order the italy dlc
>>1229151Relic wont make it goodRelic wont make it balancedRelic wont make it funBut you will buy it because, like WoT and WT, it has tanks and you roleplay as a ruskie or a wehraboo. Youre a prisoner of your addiction
>>1229151>ww2 game>Soviet Union not present on a poster even with 1 pixel>hired most deformed by propagandra brains to write a previous gameIll take as a win a collective soulcrushing misery west will fall into in every aspect of their life, both left and right, even if nukes will never break out (they probably wont)
>>1229630Wehraboo cash is precisely why this series has been nothing but "fighting Nazis in Europe in 1944" for its entire existence. There is nothing mechanically about the game that prevents it from being set with different opponents in a different place, merely that Sega is taking the easy road and milking Wehraboos for cash, as they are easily parted with their money by any game whatsoever that lets you play as the Nazis.
>>1241385>xir is so disheartened by the state of his western country, its afraid even of lightest internet bants by naming ithow does it feel to look at the whitest person u see on the street and know that hes grandson will 100% be named Ahmed?
>>1241403Your country literally has state-sponsored Jihadists fighting for it. You allow a muslim theocracy to exist within your country.
>>1241430Thats actually based no matter how youll put it. People keep presenting this from every angle to me (white people killed by browns blah blah).But to have state sponsored micro jihad state, definitely earns more kino points than any other micro warfare state u can think of. (even though u inevitable get occational chimpouts cause of it)
>>1241436Why don't you just admit you have no reason to love Russia and hate the West beyond "my tribe good, you tribe bad"? Why do you even attempt to make such ridiculous "justifications"?
>>1241465not him butThere's no reason to do the opposite either
Can't you stay on topic for more than 5 minute you stupid chickens?
>>1241366Guilty as charged. Good thing about 3 is all the preorder dlc and collector edition crap is for the US so it saves me money.
>>1241366Would be kinda weird to have a ww2 game without Germany, like you can do the pacific and chinese front, but I don't think it's the lack of Germans that make such titles less popular, but more that jungle fighting and massacring chinese peasants is kinda ass gameplay wise.I get that this is the the third title where they've pulled the two German factions trick, but it would always be difficult to fully equip a fully Italian or Romanian faction, I remember playing as the Italian faction in Codename Panzers Phase 2, and it ended up with a lot of your heavy equipment being german and the afrika korps being a significant portion of your forces
>>1241351>game about italian and african front>Hurr durr why no ruzzianz?!Go back
>>1241815The other problem is that Japs are only fearsome early war and then in the late war their entire industrial capacity shits itself and they can't even put out anything to match the Sherman in large numbers.
>>1241815>but it would always be difficult to fully equip a fully Italian or Romanian factionItalians are very easy to do and can be made very distinctive. You just don't want to and prefer multiple german factions. I saved it some time ago and I think this concept is more than enough.idk about Romanians but Hungarians could make a fine faction too. And yeah this time they would inevitably eventially get some german equipment, but official foreign gear somehow wasn't an issue for Brits in CoH1 or Soviets in CoH2. I just want some fresh air.>>1242272A Pacific Front game would have to not include Americans to be somewhat balanced and I'm not even joking. A CoH game more about artillery and infantry would be cool, however. A more asymmetrical approach like the Winter War or Indochinese Wars, for example.
>>1242333fuck, wrong image, lmao
>>1242333>A Pacific Front game would have to not include Americans to be somewhat balanced and I'm not even joking.a pacific front would have to include china and naval battles and there would be much vehicles
>>1229151this game's art is dumbeveryone looks yassified
>>1242147>italian and african frontwho?
>>1242533are you one of those faggots who think that there was only the western front?
>>12423331 gear forward 6 reverse
>>1243744kino and you can't convince me otherwiseall the italian jank is just perfectly built for a glass cannon faction
>>1243759>make one wing a few inches longer than the other>plane doesn't yaw anymoreitalians are so smart
Should have been the Pacific.
>>1241403Are you talking about Moscow?
>>1241366>>1241366Ww2 was barely anything else but fighting Nazis in the western and eastern fronts. The Italians were a joke until Rommel and the germans showed up to save their asses and the japs didn't do much of shit outside the Pacific naval conflicts and the Philippines.For a land focused ww2 rts game there's not much else here for them unless they change wars to ww1 which would still revolve around germans or Vietnam which strategy devs seem to shy away from due to the fundamental differences between world war era and cold war era conflicts not to mention controversy concerning more recent conflicts like 'nam.'Wehraboo's wouldn't been such a big thing if game devs didn't make it such a taboo to play as Nazi Germany in a video game in the first place and rts games are about the only way you can really place as a Nazi since fps games always have you playing an allied soldier or at most a Nazi turncoat who realizes 'were the baddies!'.
>>1243783in moscow even the muslins are white. Cope.
>>1243809sure, sasha, sure
>>1242333no anzio no buy
>>1243809Tatars, Chechens, Dagestanis, Azerbaijanis, Uzbeks and Kazakhs are white now?
>>1243853Chechens and Dagestanis maybe but the rest clearly notalso get the fuck back on the topic, enough polfaggotry
>>1243801>Ww2 was barely anything else but fighting Nazis in the western and eastern fronts.This is so fucking Eurocentric it's excruciating. Kys.
Literally what the fuck is their problem?
>>1229151CoH Axis factions have always been>Regular Germans>Fast GermansIt's so fucking stupid we don't have an Italy faction on launch but I'm sure it will be $20 DLC
>>1244010You mean:>Working as intended Germans >Shit and broken Germans
>>1243986You just know that a woman wrote this
>>1244180>>1244010>Germans on edge of defeat, resorting to using volksgrenidiers to bolster their veteransvs>CRAAAAAZY jetpack Nazis with the wunderwaffen
>>1244010>>1244180I think you mean>Heer>not-the-SS-we-swear
>>1244204Nope. Just that flowery way of writing that comes from French.>>1244497
>>1243986based beyond measure
>>1243986The Chad Italian Aesthetic Fascist vs the Virgin German Literal Fascist
>>1245194thismussolini and hitler are the chad vs virgin meme in real life
>>1245272>chad >tries to invade greaseballs and fails>killed by your own people>body is shot, pissed and spat on, beaten until unrecognizable>hanged italy is the only country to be ruled by a comic book villain
>>1245272More like the fake chad Mussolini vs the real chad Hitler
>>1245283>experts sayNot this old yid projection again.
>>1245283Hate him if you want but Hitler was Chad as fuck, guy literally had to get every other superpower to ally to take his Reich down and his soldiers blitzkrieged over the world in style never seen before or since. Mussolini did Jack shit, led a nation of incompetent weaklings, and then got his ass killed by his own people.
>>1245296you should be killed
>>1245297mussolini never accomplished even a fracture of that, wake up paulo
>>1245301the point is you called italians weaklings when that's obviously not true
>>1245297Woah calm down little fella no need for asshurt like that, and the ancient Romans and modern Italians might as well be two different people's. Whatever the ancient Romans had that made them conquerors was lost over the dark ages.
>>1245302primo, not mesecundo>ancient romans>italians
>>1245302>>1245303>>1245309Nta but how do nazis cope with the fact that the main genetic difference between ancient romans and modern italisns is germanic admixture from all those migrating tribes.
>>1245315the years of arabic control of italia and iberia were the best years for both of those regions and i'm not even joking
>>1245321ok mihammad>>1245319southern europeans should be deported to their ancestral home in north africa
>4:38 in Europe>19:38-23:38 in America>"muh nordic" spamYou will never be a real German.
>italy faction>only tier 1/2 units because they couldn't make anything worth a damnyes I'm sure you'll love to play it
>>1246896>>1242336let me guess, you also think that "Enemy at the Gates" is a historically accurate movie?
>>1245315Fake and gay
>>1245115>Nope. Just that flowery way of writing that comes from FrenchJesus Christ
>>1245302Im Italian but that's a fake quote. 2/3 of the men Rommel led were italians though, and the italian navy managed to keep the logistic route open until the end
>>1229151>I have every right to be mad.No you don't. Italians were a non-factor in WWII. They don't deserve to be represented in any WWII game.
>>1243981>Ww2 was barely anything else but fighting Nazis in the western and eastern fronts. >This is so Le eurocentric>in the western and eastern fronts. learn 2 read plebbitor
>>1247614then why is soviet union in the game?
>>1248162Not even baiting. You said that Italians shouldn't be in the game because they did poorly in ww2. In that case the soviets shouldn't be in the game as well since all they did was mass human wave attacks against Germans until 1943 when the second front was opened.
>>1247741Kys, you know its perfectly valid to read it that way. For me to think you were only talking about europeans fronts youd need to specifiy that at the beginning of the sentence. Learn2syntax, chud.
>>1247614The only reason there was fighting in Africa for nearly 3 years was because of Italy.
>thread ruined by autistic "muh white race" poltards
>>1248170Certified mutt moment holy shitSoviets literally took the biggest hit of everyone and fucking BEGGED to open the western front earlierThey held out better than they had any right to do and then started to steamroll after Kursk
>>1247614They're no less of a factor as BritbongsOf course you just want to be a burgerboo or a wehraboo
>>1248803Chinks cheat on IQ tests.
DAK was exactly what I wanted. Wops can stay irrelevant.
>>1249846THOSE GOLEM NPC TROGLODYTES ISRAEL MADE OF SO MANY PEOPLE HAD SOULS ONCE! IMAGINE THE INFERNAL UNPARALLELED RAGE THE SOULS WILL FEEL IF SPARKED AGAIN! THAT SPARK OF TRUE AWARENESS WE ALL COULD BE IMMORTAL GODS VIA THE SLIGHTEST REAL PROGRESS AND INNOVATION HEAVEN AND UTOPIA IS NOT IDEALISM! IT IS THE MOST NATURAL STATE OF HUMANITY
>>1247614>Italians were a non-factor in WWIIThey were the only member of axis in Europe that could threaten the allies at sea
>>1249852Why are Israelis like you scared shitless by Italy? Posting all these dumb disunity memes.If you are really going to stand agains progress and immortality then regress and die
>>1249856^If you are really going to stand *against* progress and immortality then regress and die
>>1249846>Italy is a fully 100% Nazi country in 2022 and is prospering exponentiallyYou do realize they started development of CoH3 before 2021 right?I honestly can no longer tell if tards on this site are actually going full schizo or only pretending to be.
>>1248803Ayyyy mambo no 5
>nu-relicIt's gonna be shitJust play MoW, or better yet - Graviteam Tactics
>>1246904>Enemy at the Gates" is a historically accurate movie?Nta, and not speaking for the whole movie, but if you are referring to the famous "one gets a rifle, if he dies another picks it up" scene then unironically yes it's accurate... for a limited time in the Stalingrad theater. Probably around the time when Germans held like 90% of the city and Soviets were scrambling to put up any resistance. Luckily for the Soviets, German autism crept in and they deprioritized the siege of Stalingrad to the point where Soviets could make a come back even with their own brand of autism. It is not hard to believe that in the earlier stages of the Russian comeback some central planning fucker fucked up and only sent in conscripts without the rifles. Wanting to avoid getting gulag'd commies do the natural thing and own up to their mis-sha! Take the rifle! You are better shot than me. Just promise you wi- *bang*
>>1241366>Literally never show germans doing anything morally questionable>Buff the fuck out of their tanks, and infantry, make them all unjustifyably strongIts pretty shameless
>>1249890Graviteam tactics is completely different game it might as well be different genre. Company of heroes and men of war are like 10:1 scale. Soldiers shoot at each other from 30 meters and tanks have max range of 200m.Graviteam tactics on the other hand is 1:1 scale
I'm glad that a portion of the russian faggots that whined about the "unfair" representation of soviets in COH2 are dead and rotting in some ukranian field. I hope they had fun being shipped to the front without gear or supplies before they got killed by a robot dropping grenades.
>>1229151Italy was a fascist country. You are only allowed to play as ZOG approved nations like the USSR or England.
>>1250249>italy>not zogmussolini said race doesn't exist
>>1249890>just play a completely different game!How many times you nigs gonna parasite from CoH threads instead of making your own?Ah yes, because nobody posts in those except few autists posting masturbatory fanfics.MoW is literally in the same place it was decade ago, because people responsible for engine left back then, and company just releases derivative scenarios.GT threads are just salty armchair tacticians angry that nobody wants to see yet another epic AI rape screen story.Make a thread about MoW2 and shill it there.
>>1241351Asiatic orcs lost ww2, kys
>>1250299Yea, orcs at least just burn and kill.Russians also add a lot of rape and looting to the mix.
>>1250361But rape is where 99% of Half-Orcs come from, not to mention that even if you're just thinking of Warhammer, looting is one of the defining features of them.
>>1241351It's refreshing to see a modern game not include non-whites for diversity.
>>1250299>>1250363>>1250421Kys vatnigger orcs
/pol/niggers get out
>>1246904straw man autist argument
>>1248803this graph could be about smallest dick sizes and the ranking would still be accurate
>>1250693le epic troll
>>1257263reminder italians:>invented nuclear reactors>have the most astronauts in the EU>are fucking your mom right now
>>1257278Sounds awfully close to what happened in real history. Whats your point?
>>1250249>You are only allowed to play as ZOG approved nationsAlbania?
>>1241351>North africa front>"Why no russia blyat"I can't understand how you people manage to be so stereotypical.
>>1229151>takes place right after italy falls just to avoid making them a faction>turns US army into green toy soldiers>krauts are wearing the wrong uniforms againit's all so tiresome
>>1241351When you got your game focusing on your front you all collectively decided to chimp out because muh historical accuracy to the point CoH2 isnt even sold in your backwater country, you quintuple snowniggerReap what you've sown, mongolian
>>1260833i mean they had the right to be mad there, coh2's campaign is just enemy at the gates but as a game, which, you know, isn't exactly accurate and reinforced multiple myths.
>>1229151Italians dont care about ww2 so no point of adding them as a faction, the few italians that care about it will simply play germany
>>1260902>coh2's campaign is just enemy at the gates but as a gameAnd CoH1 was Saving Private Ryan/A Bridge Too Far which was as equally bullshit in terms of historical accuracy and just the usual hollywood WW2 flick that a handful of us grew up onOnly the snowniggers threw a fit about it, everyone else just didn't care and played the game or didn't care and didn't play the game.
>>1229185Men of War tried a Vietnam thing and it wasn't that great. Jungles are really no fun to play in since you don't see either your own nor the enemy units half the time.There are plenty of interesting conflicts though they could do. Korea, Afghanistan (any of the 200 wars from there) or now even shit like Ukraine would be pretty kino to play and not as cliché
I am kinda exited for the game. New Front to fight in, equipment we havent seen before and Italians make an appearance as battlegroups or something. And the game looked nice in the last dev-video.I cant be the only one right?
>>1245411i hope you get fucking killed
>>1229151>>No Italian faction to play, not even in multiplayerI thought the Italians are part of both factions. Like you can get Fascist Italian units as the Germans while the Allies can use partisans and co-belligerent army units.
>>1248556It would've been two months of fighting if the Germans hadn't showed up.>>1249852>couldAnd they didn't. The Italian navy performed slightly better than the army but that's hardly an achievement.
>>1247741>what is China/India/Burma
>>1263429It's still quite unique how art was handled in Italy comparing to other totalitarian regimes
>>1266732Italy wasn't totalitarian, it was just a third-world LatAm dictatorship which somehow ended up in Europe. Don't listen to libkeks which try to laugh off the distinction between nazism and fascism
I swear, all of this polshittery is posted from a dirty basement in Romania by gypsies using stolen phones. There is no other explanation, this is fact.
What do you guys think about the new twitch gameplay
I want Italy not because of historical reasons but because I've played Germany for two fucking games already. Also need another axis faction that isn't a flavor of Germany.
>>1269329>You will never see Italy because NOT ALL ITALIANS WERE FASCISTS>You will never see Hungary because NOT ALL HUNGARIANS WERE FASCISTS>You will never see Vichy France because NOT ALL FRENCH WERE FASCISTS>You will never see any actual recognition of Waffen-SS because NOT ALL X WERE FASCISTS>You will have multiple german factions and foreign troops among them because it works this way for some reasonI hate this world.
>>1269335I hope they make it at least somewhat moddable with the possibility to add new models and voice lines, or at least to alter infantry textures. Someone will get the glory day one with a mod fixing all the inaccurate uniforms, but I don't care, I only want to make obscure faction mods like Russian Liberation Army or de Gaulle's frogfags.
>>1269329Pacific war is begging for COH.>US marines>Commonwealth flavours (UK, AUS, CAN, NZ, India) >Imperial Japanese Army>Imperial Japanese Naval Army>Chinese Warlords with their vast wacky variety of gear>late year Russia for August Storm
>>1269448It's 4 allied factions vs 2 axis, as opposed to the already unbalanced 3v2 of CoH2.
>>1263230Because being exited for one game makes me a mindless drone that only throws around buzzwords once a singular condition is met.
>>1229151I feel you bro, but to be fair, by the time the US was being slaughtered at Kasserine Pass the Italians were done in North Africa. I'm not even sure that Americans and Italians ever fought in NA.It is interesting that Vichy France is also absent, but hey, shit historical knowledge makes for shit historical games.
>>1270458>Vichy France is also absentI'm pretty certain that in one of the early interviews Relic said both Vichy and Free French units will available to the Axis & Allies respectively.
>>1269538>US Pacific Force, Commonwealth/ABDA, Chinese Warlords>Japanese Army (with local independent rebels), Japanese Navy (focuses on calling in supports), Kwantung Army/ManchukoHow about that? No idea how to differentiate Kwantung roster from Imp Army though.
>>1269448>>1270477>implying it won’t be USMC/UK vs IJN/IJANo one cares about Chinks and the Russky involvement in the Pacific is irrelevant. Not to mention a Chinese faction would mainly be KMT aligned which would piss off the CCP unless you want to bow down and make the Chinks 100% commies.
>>1257415Are you sure you’re not the stereotype? What’s wrong with people loving themselves? What’s wrong with wanting more content?There should be Italians and Russians.It’s not that tough to make some skins, stats, models, and to hire a few voice actors.People are not that fucking demanding and all the complaints I see here are sincere.I wish for this world to stop feeling like hell.-A Canadian that was like you long long long ago
>>1272948You can love yourself, but you can't force a video game developer to waste resources on adding you where you don't belong. Only trannies do that.