Closed beta is out, anyone have the files to pass around?
'ate ck3 tooSimple as
>>1178071Jacksonville bros, I finally feel seenThat county is almost always St. Augustine in paradox games
>>1178071>sideways mapLiterally, and I say this entirely unironically, unplayable.
>>1178071>two Romes right next to eachother>One has upside-down text
>>1178082umm sweetie the Proud Brazilian culture is more important than your wh*te boy north america...(this is actually why they did this, according to the lead tranny, and of course I am using that word literally not as a generic insult)
>>1178071That's a penor
>>1178071I may be autistic but i cannot play this sideways it just looks retarded and wrong to me
>>1178113>>1178082I thought it was because CK3 shits itself if the map is taller than it is wide
>>1178082seems dumb to do all of the americas. If they wanted brazil they shouldve done another mod. Fuck this sideways shit.IMO SA shouldnt even be in most games because it just wastes CPU power. Instead just make it all impassible terrain that you can buy oil from.
>>1178082thisI'm not going to play CK3 anyway, but sideways US is an abomination. if CK2 ATE had this projection I would have never played it
>>1178071How has no one leaked the files yet
>>1178235troondev has ~300 patrons, not one leak!
>>1178082This. I would buy CK3 with all dlc to play this otherwise. What the FUCK were they thinking?
>>1178082Yeah what the fuck?
>>1178158Yeah its this. They are trying to find a path to make the map turn while still being physically horizontal.
>>1178826not until we get those files.
If they have half a brain they'll have individualized the files in some hidden way so that they'll know who leaked it once it happens, so if anyone ends up doing it, use a burner account
anyone have a link to it?
>>1178071tranny devs using cock imagery as their promo shotslmao
>>1179098you get files from two different accounts and instantly detect presence of "watermark", with advanced skills you may edit it or remove completely.if files are same - no watermark (or same mark for both accounts)
>>1178082>>1178216>>1178230>>1178419>>1178826>Retards can't into map orientationAmerican moment
>>1178082>Fantasy setting>Fantasy mapI fail to see the problem
>>1179399Why couldn't it be normal?
>>1179420>normalALL maps are conventions. As for "why it's not north on the top, west on the left", consult >>1178158Which further adds to the convention aspect of it.
>>1179455All maps are conventions and many things are constructs, that doesn't mean we should just reinvent wheels as a habitSad to see ck3 can't handle it
>>1178082you can just turn off auto map rotation in settings and play it normally
>>1179457There is no reinventing aspect to it. It's just working with tools at hand.Do yourself a favour and check just about any map made prior to 1600 or so. The only reason "north top, west left" is "normal" to you is cultural osmosis, and the reason why that happened is because it was handy for navigation - not due to it being easier or some shit like that, but because when you're sea-sick, having to take one step less when counting your position is pretty fucking nice.t. surveyor and hobbist sailor
>>1179457Besides, >>1179404 has it spot on.
>>1179463That's okay, and could play a medieval game with medieval english too, language changes all the time, but I think players prefer and benefit from familiarity and even if it's just 'cultural osmosis', it's too established to just decide one day I'm gonna go back to the past
>>1179469and you could*>>1179464I mean it's the Americas man, it's not exactly a fantasy map even if the scenario is different
>>1179469>>1179472... American, by chance?
>>1179474No, but that has no meaning, No player cares about seeing a map convention from another age, they want an accurate map familiar to them that they can use for gameplay, do you deny this?
>>1179477Question:You are playing a post-apo medieval "totally not fantasy" game set in former US of A... so you want familiar map. Are you retareded, American or both?Because I genuinely don't understand your "problem" with this map. It's a fucking fantasy setting and you are complaining that the map isn't real-life one. Why then playing a fantasy mod?Do you complain in Warhammer that it is using "wrong" map, for it is not 1:1 Earth?
>>1179477>>1179488And to elaborate - you consider this to be an issue, because the map is "tilted wrong". Like how's that "unreal" or "inaccurate"?
>>1179488I'm playing a fantasy setting set in the real geography of the Americas, just like a fantasy mod set in the real map of EU4, that doesn't mean the map should change. Are you one of those modders, is that why you're so adamant about this?>>1179489I think the unfamiliar nature of this tilted map will be a detriment to players instead of a benefit, Paradox has tried for a long time to make maps familiar and in modern conventions, even if they can't reach that 100%, it is simple to also expect this from the modders themselves
>>1179463>It's just working with tools at hand.The engine cannot support a map that is taller than it is wide. Small Family Game Development Company, please understand.
>>1179488You're such a sperg lmao.
>DUUUUDE MAP ORIENTATION IS SUBJECTIVE SO LIKE THE FACT THAT THE MODDERS ARE TOO INCOMPETENT TO MAKE THE MAP VERTICAL IS A FEATURE NOT A BUG HAHAHA GET IT HECKIN OOOF
>>1179488Why are you so upset that people want a map of irl continents to conform to the orientation that is used in irl maps? Especially when you could just say that its the result of engine limitations (you know, the actual reason why the orientation is weird) and leave it at that. No need to sperg out about americans and warhammer or whatever else you're ranting about.
>>1179793One may think that the sperging should be over how the map is getting warped and twisted to place such a large area of an imperfect sphere on a flat plane. That is the usual map sperg option. But, no. Apparently seeing the Mississippi go left to right is mindbreaking.
>>1179803Nobody cares what you think, you fucking mong. I want things to conform to the universally agreed upon standards and if they can't even manage that then I am not even going to try their shitey mod.Simple as.
>>1178158Right, but that’s only a problem because they insisted on adding Brazil
>>1179462wrong game anon
>>1179803>Apparently seeing the Mississippi go left to right is mindbreaking.Are you ESL? Or are you just too low IQ to understand what's even being argued here? The map has to go horizontal because they extended it down to Brazil. I'd rather have a normally-oriented map that cuts off South America than some retarded horizontal map that includes a bunch of areas I don't care about and never play anyway. It's a stupid trade off to make. Nobody cares about Brazil, I prioritize a properly oriented map over its addition. And honestly if they cut off some of the Latin American bloat they'd have more time to further flesh out the North American factions.
>>1179914>they'd have more time to further flesh out the North American factions.North America is busy enough in the latest CK2 updates. They keep adding event chains for their DONUTSTEEL Muslim OCs. The mod probably would have released by now if they didn't have to do South America and code the insane Brazilian Government type.
>>1179917Haven't read up on CK3 mod but I have gripes from the CK2 version>PNW has a flavorless matriarchy religion that gets overrun by unpronounceable native hordes blobs every game>California religion is just "hey what if we mix everything together" and has nothing interesting to it other than the multiple kingdoms and shadow empire mechanic>Nordics are just vanilla Nordics>The Midwest is Catholic for some reason and it's just vanilla Catholicism>More boring unpronounceable native blobs>New England religion is bare bones>Americanists outside of the Northeast have no mechanics accounting for the fact that they're outside of the NortheastBasically anybody who wasn't Americanists, Rust Cultusts, or Southernors was like playing a B character in the game. Atomicists were okay too I suppose
>>1179926You were probably playing an earlier version. California has way more content now, for instance.Figures you get filtered by the Haida, though.
>>1179967It's a mod that exemplifies quantity over quality. The last thing they need is to be further degrading the mod by twisting the map sideways just so they can add a bunch of shit nobody cares about.
>>1178071The files are hidden behind going to their discord and applying to be a beta tester.
>>1179492When you play Shogun, do you bitch and moan about the map being "wrongly aligned" or just roll with it? Or it doesn't bother you, for you have no fucking clue how it should be "properly" aligned in the first place?Are you even aware you're playing that game side-ways?>>1179611Which is my point - the game can't do it "right" and the solution is to tilt the map by 90 degrees.>>1179714>Frogposter>RetardedChecks outNice meltdown, btw
>>1179914Considering he wasn't even me, it's nice to see you could maintain your meltdown while I wasn't even present, yet the other anon still was spot-on how idiotic your complain is in the first place.
>>1179980>the game can't do it "right"That is all that needs to be said. Brazil is one of the more complicated efforts that the mod is doing, so we will have to see if it is fun. Hopefully it is stable after the rounds of testing.
>>1179982I don't know who "me" is retard, that was my first post in the thread. You can't address what I've actually said because I am right, instead you can just whine here about some kind of meta commentary on meltdowns and who posted what or whatever.
>>1179980>>1179987>know that the game can't do what you're trying to do>still keep trying to do it>"actually it's the game that's wrong"
Aruba, Jamaica, ooh I wanna take ya to Bermuda, Bahama, come on pretty mama...
>>1180009>even all the names on the maps are going the wrong way
>>1180014They go up, down, and horizontal. The only way remaining would be upside down.Small family swedish game codebase, please understand.
>>1179462This is Correct. See how Britain and France are running Right-Left North-South, behind the menu.
Anyone in this thread that supports sideways America map is a tranny
>>1179980I don't play Shogun so I wouldn't knowYou're fucking delusional and people on the thread can see it, all this seethe for a normal observation, jesus
>>1179910Why would they add Brazil? It’s already a 2nd world hole in a hell climate, a civilizational collapse would cause most people to die from heat and disease you’d just have a splattering out stone age and early metal working tribes, nothing more.
>>1180166because in the CK2 mod they use the China mechanics. Don't worry, they go pretty insane in the CK3 version.
>>1180186Whoops, meant that for mr cetism is boring >>1179926here we go
I was just want thefalklands to be british and insular. Nothing else.
>>1180203It’s Falklander culture (with Patagón heritage) but some weird Argentine religion called “Calafatist.”
>>1180237>Latinx developer butthurt his nation got resoundingly BTFO by a dying empire so he makes the Falklands follow Argentine religion in his fantasy mod to cope
>>1179993>Moder finds solution to technical limitation of the game engine>Anon spergs out, for no particular reasonExplain yourself>>1180112>You're fucking delusionalIronic
>>1180254At this point let's just agree to disagreeThere's most people who are not excited about the sideways map, and then there's youNot even the names fit kek
>>1180237>CalafatistRundown on that religion?
>>1180237>patagonian heritage for falklanderslmao
>>1180243It’s extra stupid because the Falklands is its own duchy. There’s loads of 1 county (and other similarly small) faiths. It’s completely unreasonable both lorewise and for gameplay. Just making them Anglican or some dumb Queen religion (see: Glorian in 1.2) would’ve been better.>>1180266“Calafatist paganism refers to the series of myths and beliefs developed by the people at the southernmost frontier of the world, Patagonia. Calafatists believe that after the Event, the world reached its Third age, but two ages came prior. First was born from the Earth herself Nosjthej, King of the Giants and Lord of the First Age, to defend the world from the cold incursions of the south. Then came Magellan, Heir of the Seas, and Lord of the Second Age. Together, these forces stood their ground against the vile cold from the south for eons, until the ice shattered and the new age began. Only through the sacrifice of Calafate, the great female spirit of nourishment, was the Cold’s greatest strike held back, allowing a Third Age to dawn into the world. Now, the followers of the Three Lords follow their ancient path and seek to reclaim their old power, Calafatists are known for their ritual consumption of calafate berries, said to contain the essence of the great female spirit Calafate, who keeps sacrificing herself to bring strength and nourishment to the Calafatists, as they hold their guard against the devouring cold."This is the in-game description. Seems like Argentines LARPing as indios.
Can someone upload the beta again
>>1180279So it's a religion with heavy focus on berries that are very significant specifically to Patagonia. I can't even find info if they grow on the Falklands. That's stupid >Just making them Anglican or some dumb Queen religion (see: Glorian in 1.2) would’ve been better.You know what they should worship? Iron Lady. Isn't that a cool name for a god?
>>1180309Would make a great submod. Troondevs would never.
>>1180300https://www.independent.co.uk/climate-change/news/calafate-invasion-falklands-natives-under-threat-from-an-argentinian-force-of-nature-8538125.html>Calafate is an invasive species in the Falklandspottery
>>1180287>still no files
>>1180332Quit yer whininghttps://mega.nz/file/5OpDRK5S#EIDxNzNdo1Pey75Xfeux4cIJp_QwRkFsaP05MTLeTgY
>>1178071This map is an eyesore.
>>1180340This shit is on 1.4?
>>1180378It says 1.4 but it’s for the latest version
Gonna start posting some gems I find
>>1180388In what region can you find this religion?
>>1180388I don't bloody well think Shariah allows it.
>>1180393No starting provinces or rulers at game start, presumably you can convert to it or it can appear as a heresy
>>1180388this is just the prince ali bit but way less funny
>>1180388This was made to piss off the Muslim dev and it's pretty based lol
>>1180388Found any more gems? I know from the other thread about DnD religion ( with no starting counties). Would like to see the description of it.
>>1180398I will make sure to execute all characters who convert to this groomer religion
>>1180254>Moder finds solution to technical limitation of the game engineOh they found a way to align the map normally?
>>1180340Thank you my lieg.
>>1180559Yes. Read the thread. Turn off Camera Rotation Reset.
>>1180666Based, instead of justifying it, this is what should have been said all along
>>1180668It has been said.Numerous times.It's only yours and yours alone fault you can't read
>>1179488>It's a fucking fantasy setting and you are complaining that the map isn't real-life one. Why then playing a fantasy mod?based>Do you complain in Warhammer that it is using "wrong" map, for it is not 1:1 Earth?add warhammer to this map plsand narnia and stellaris if you have time tranny
>>1180707All you've been doing this whole thread is justifying the map, one guy tells you how to kill the roach in the bathroom, you tell us that we should just coexist
>>1180666Most of the thread is some retard trying to justify leaving the map sideways kek
>>1178082They say it's a limitation on how long they can make the map. I can just flip my monitor sideways but i wonder if there is any limitation on altering the ui to display sideways so i can play seamlessly in portrait mode
kek, thanks again file leaker bro.
>>1180733I like your moxie, but try out the in-game camera rotation first. Be sure to turn off the auto rotation in the game settings so it doesn't rotate back.Some names may be upside down because you are playing rotated 90 or so degrees. The map projections/provinces will also look funny the further to the north or south you go, but that is a standard issue of mapping globes, no matter the projection.
I'm fine with the sideways map issue, especially since it is fixable with the rotation setting, but does this projection look wrong to anyone else? Florida looks too small and stubby.
>>1180743doesnt look terrible honestly
>>1180752No way west coast is that green
>>1180757you'd be surprised how much rainwater gets trapped by the mountains
this one is kinda cool
Why do modders always feel the urge to add more provinces, characters, pops etc to Paradox games? They run badly enough as is.
The only thing more autistic than getting bothered about a non-standard map orientation is getting bothered that someone is bothered by a non standard map orientation and getting into an internet argument with them about how all map orientations are equally valid.
>>1180709That reminds me, there was obscure ck2 mod, Narnian Kings or something like that, which crammed dozen different settings on one map.
>>1180743Yeah, far north looks bizarre and Gulf of Mexico looks tiny.
>>1180781Please find it, that sounds interesting
>>1180799https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1578107320&searchtext=narniaThis one. Despite being very wide in scope, most of the world is very bare-bones.
https://mega.nz/file/pHQkACQD#LYvhVCp80ICOHpNGp6sAf4djZvZDALRynHHuZctt16Isecond beta update, from sep 3rd
>>1180388Westernoids need to be purged
>>1180009This doesn't look too shabby zoomed in.Not going to play it regardless, didn't even like the CK2 version that much.
>>1180711All I ever did was saying to turn off Camera Rotation Reset. Take your meds
>>1180768To force you to stop using a potato rig from 2007
>>1181172All you've been doing this whole thread is legitimising the sideways map, stop wasting people's time
>>1180725lmao>>1180733nice lateral thinkingyou could also put the monitor upside down, get gravity boots and hang upside down while playing
Bro they made the Greek Chad face a custom iconI fucking can't
>>1181181>Tell retard how to display his map the normal way, rather than the sideway bullshit>"yOu ArE tRyInG tO lEgItImIsInG tHe SiDeWaYs MaP"I guess you're your own worst enemy
>>1181209The fact that you felt insulted by the initial statement highlighting the answer shows that you're either the person I'm talking about, or you're just retarded, which is it gonna be?
>>1180237>It’s Falklander culture (with Patagón heritage)Kek. Fucking Argies.
>>1180309A Thatcher cult led by the 'Governor' and waging spiritual war against 'The Belgrano' by drowning victims and offering them to the Iron Lady beseeching her to return to the mortal realm and restore the world would be neat.
>>1179972Aiming for jobs at Paradox, I suppose.Anyway this mod looks like pure unadulterated cringe.
>>1181282I don't understand why they make a big deal about a barren island, like owning it would have fixed their fucked economy or something lmao
>>1181316It has a shitload of oil, diamonds, gold and rare earth materials in its EEZ, apparently.
>>1180507Nope. The mod is so aggressively uninteresting that I closed it soon after. I never even unpaused, just looked around the map, cultures and religions.The mod's just offensively retarded at worst, and completely boring at best. It's completely soulless compared to even the early versions of the original ATE kinda like the game itself lmao What a fucking joke
>>1180507It's a bit underwhelming desu
>they changed it to "holy columbian confederation"i don't actually care either way about the confederate larp, they can remove it if they want, but at least change the name to something that the country actually is. "Confederation" for a feudal empire is retarded
>>1178082>>1179399>>1179455>>1179463>>1179474>>1179488>>1179489You will never convince me these alternative 'sideways' 'upsidedown' maps are not sheer contrarianism from people wanting to own the Anglosphere to an extent even I find embarrassing
it's like they set out to make a mod that was even wider and shallower than base CK3
>>1181455>"Confederation" for a feudal empire is retardedFeudal countries are by default confederations, you absolute retard
>>1181625ATE for CK2 was the same shit, only on different engine: multitude of "options", none of them with any actual impact or mechanics. CK3 made it however far easier to script and make, especially with both ability to reform religions and also cultures later on.
>>1181316What the other anon said. The reason why Brits wants to keep it is EEZ being super-rich. Even the fisheries alone are worth it, given it's a middle of nowhere and thus nobody to really contest them. For the same reason Argentina wants those islands, because having them, even without exploring its resources, is a great way to bolster your economical leverages for international banking - after all, your country controls a potential gold mine, which can be tapped at any minute.So yeah, the islands might be worthless, but they allow to control really fucking rich area. Something similar is why Japs and Ruskies quarrel over the Kurils and why everyone is so fucking ass-mad over Pescadores.
>>1182064I always thought AtE was way less fun to play than it should have been based on the concept
>>1182288the problem was trannies moving in and removing all the fun and wacky instead of doubling down on it
>>1182293no it was always shit, you don't get to use that as a cop out if it was shit before
>>1182288Honestly the Europe/Med area is already the perfect strategy map.NA and SA are just big fat landmasses, they're not fun to play on.
I'm gonna make a point of always finding a native culture to hybridize with so I can culturally appropriate native headgear like a boss
>>1182063no they arent
how does the Americanist presidential election work in ck3?
>>1182728seems incomplete in the beta. When the president died I was able to declare myself president for 2 days before an event popped to choose between some candidates. Then I lost the election and the president title was removed.
>>1183374the trump 2020 experience
>>1183374That's a shame, they and the Macho Stallion nomads in venezuela were my favorite religions to play with in ck2
>>1183414>there were people who actually played in south americaare you from there
>>1183436Nope, born in and have never been outside of the USA. I just tried a couple games in SA for the hell of it and liked the nomads.
>>1183436The machete religion was fun. Like trailwalker but for spics
>>1180279>the world reached its Third age, but two ages came priorwhat terrible writing
So, what's up with the Russians in Brazil? Why is there a duchy called Novo Rutenia?
>>1183675It's a reference to an obscure alt-hist meme. The 2d6 people that will recognise it can laugh, and for everyone else it will just fly over
>>1183676Please explain, considering it's too obscure even for my ass.
>>1183681my best guess is something to do with the White emigres and the civil warhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russian_Brazilians
>>1181353>SalemistAre these hyper-radical post-apocalyptic Puritans?
>>1184598No. They’re Lovecraftian Freemasons. They do hate witches though. Diabolist and Salemite are some of the few interesting faiths in the CK3 version, but that’s just because they still have the same basic idea as CK2 Occultist.
>>1178082>geographylet befuddled by orientation
>>1179917The Brazilian government type was done ages ago and didn't delay anything. Brazil and South America in general were done by people from there who hadn't been part of the dev team in CK2. The north and south were actually worked on in parallel, and the amount of delay due to map expansion is actually not that high considering the people that would otherwise have not been involved..The real reason it took a long time is also the reason that CK3 has so little DLC and they keep raising prices: It's a hassle to dev for.
>>1180186This is only in the tranny version. There was a schism, the coders/mappers/autists are making their own version now, separate from the head tranny and his cabal of sycophants. Mexico and California were the only regions not done at that time, so the version on the Twitter is going to be very shitty in those areas.
>>1180009>now Palo tooThese devs just love putting witchcraft in Cuba. It's complete nonsense. The game already has witches so why would it need a whole religion? Paleros are all Catholics, they just do sacrifices and summon spirits in addition.
>>1180757It is, and it’s the best place to live
>>1180743It's an unconventional projection custom made for the map area to be as accurate as possible. It looks different from most map projections because of that. Also a dev leaked what the other continents would look like about a year ago and they were completely fucked, which presumably is why this projection doesn't normally get used.
>>1180763Are the characters there still named after the Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles?
>>1181206Custom icons are pretty memey but making a custom religion is a meme to begin with
>>1178071tf is that map lmao
>>1184708I don't get it.why didn't they ruin these too?
>>1185250There was about three devs who cared about those and none of them were trannies. They went and made it themselves in a separate group chat without taking comments, then presented it complete and whole cloth.
Is the Kiketroon in charge of this?
>>1185340He was, but there's a spinoff with different devs that will hopefully be better.
>>1185337unexpected hope pill. ATE just wont be the same if I can't launch massive halloween raids into quebecshame about cetic tho, it was the only source of SOVL west of the rockies
>>1180018What are the holy sites of the Girlboss religion?
>>1185397Cetic is still in in the coder fork, just with new wsys
>>1185210>This is only in the tranny version. There was a schism, the coders/mappers/autists are making their own version now, separate from the head tranny and his cabal of sycophants. Mexico and California were the only regions not done at that time, so the version on the Twitter is going to be very shitty in those areas.Are they planning to stop doing that dumb thing where they pretend the HCC isn't a CSA LARP because they're butthurt at the real CSA?
>>1185503Where can I keep track of the non-trans version?
>Start up game>5x speed feels like 3x speed on vanilla can't wait to put 300 hours for a single play through
>there's a dinosaur themed religion with a holy site in central Alberta>It's not Drumhellerwhat the fuck.... Are they purposely trying to piss me off?????
>>1186121please post it
>>1186121>It's not DrumhellerI was not aware there was a better dinosaur-related location in Alberta. no doubt the trannies found some obscure paleological dig site and are writing equally obscure lore to justify its religious significance.
>>1185508I don't think that wad changed, but none of the butthurt people are in the fork.>>1185620You can't, probably. It's not really being advertised right now because the people working on it were never really the ones who wanted attention in the first place. It'll release when it's ready but the stuff like the reddit, twitter, and patreon are still tranny-controlled.
>>1186462Which devs are on it? The non-tranny Jews?
>>1186267>>1186126Why did they put the holy site in Cypress Hills? Drumheller is 2 counties away.Calgary Ahmadiyya lol
>>1186534>5.2% muslim = province majoritydamn, ATE really is a muslim fanfic now
>>1186665ATE has always been minoritywank but only if said minorities aren't white, it's why there's so many native american provinces
>>1186672>but only if said minorities aren't whiteWeren't they wanking the Argentinian Welsh last week?
>>1186674The south america team is different from the north america team it's still hilarious they put Falklanders in the patagon heritage group
>>1186677>Falklanders Las Malvinas son Argentinas
>>1186677One of the ones who has wanked them the longest is Canadian. In CK2, There was even briefly a plan for a Welsh migration in CK2, using the mechanics of the Saxon invasion from the Winter King mod, just so that the Patagonian Welsh would be able to find their way onto the map
>>1186677>it's still hilarious they put Falklanders in the patagon heritage groupWhy would they do something so dumb instead of the obvious. Which is to make them the centre of a complete Anglo-Saxon wank so that they can be the baddies occupying the sacred island and invading the mainland of the Arthurian themed Argentinian Welsh
>>1186677and you can tell the north america trannies hate that people are excited for the patagonian welsh instead of their natives with oc donutsteel syncretic religions
>>1186786>arthurian argie welsh larpbased
>>1180188This meme is the exact thing that got me interested in the mod again, I'd forgotten all the weird lore that had built up. Are there a load of cartel descendant states in mexico and central america?
Leaked ATE world map just dropped
>>1186672yeah but when the original mod did it was cool shit with natives being more prepared for the apocalypse. Mormon Navajo, a Catholic Comanche empire from Oklahoma ruling over inland Texas, and Neo-Mayan human sacrifices in Mexico. now it's heckin diverse peaceful Muslim cities where everyone just converted to Islam because it's the right thing to do
>>1186879No. Tbh the spic faiths are kinda lame since they don’t want to misrepresent them/hurt their feefees. Even the modernist faiths are boring, just based on weird BRASIL PORRA philosophies or some shit, aside from Anthropofagic (the cannibal faith)
>>1188083This. Removing human sacrifice from Mictlantec was the worst choice they could’ve made for Mexico.
>>1188211>they don’t want to misrepresent them/hurt their feefees.When they started caring about this is when the mods lore really dived.Polygamous Mormons -> Just another ChristianityMeso Sacrifice -> Dry Native ReligionMechanicus -> Social UnionsIncestuous Hillbillies -> ProtestantConfederacy -> WakandaThe list goes on. What made the mod great was that it took each stereotype to the extreme and that gave a flavour it just doesnt have now as Im playing through the alpha.
>>1187938This is unironically a decent projection for the mod's map extent, at least compared to anything Paradox has shit out, and also a reasonable illustration of how fucked Mercator is.
>>1188319Revelationists never had incest
>>1188319agree except for wh40k references which were always cringe
>>1186677>Not English>Not AnglicanWhy are troon devs so shit.
>>1180340I keep CTD on initialisation. Tried on 1.7 and 1.6
>>1188673there's a new version for 1.7 but I think even that one has people crashing on startup
>chase away the skilled coders>have to cut Cetic for "gameplay reasons" >endless ctdWho could have predicted this
>>1188918>>chase away the skilled coderswhat happened?
>>1180918>>1188766This one worked when I rolled back to 188.8.131.52It has the version it works on in the .mod file
>>1188945https://mega.nz/file/ISo12aTJ#uUcvNJFMISBKRLtwxYVSO_qKJoJdpif8mde6XKyrf8Uhere's the 1.7 compatible beta, released sep 13th
Serious Mode: is there a formable Empire of America similar to the one in ATE CK2? If yes, what are conditions to form it and the usual bevy of bonuses and visuals associated with it?
>>1188950So much for nightly updates
>>1188918What are those "gameplay reasons" anyways?
>a bunch of the Native faiths have “Thousand Year Resistance”, a doctrine that lowers their hostility and allows them to join holy wars against wypipo religionsTroon devs really think the Indians were all hippies before the white man came.
>>1189083*scalps u*nuffin personnel...
alright nerds is there hellenism in Nashville within Booneland?
>>1189338there is no hellenism, Americanism is the equivalent
>>1189421well shit, so much for the parthenon
>>1189055It just seemed kind of boring having a big blob of only one religion I think, and the mechanics from CK2 would have been harder to implement. Plus with special vassal contracts it was no longer necessary to use religion mechanicd for the "devolved power" setup in CK2, although even in CK2, there were a lot more methods available by the end of development than when it was implemented.The coder fork instead solves the issue by making new ways that are more interesting but see each other as righteous and probably later using struggle mechanics to represent changes in religious unity, but I don't think anyone in the tranny fork has the code ability to make the Emperor be able to be of any Way without losing his vassals on succession, or any of the other little details to make setups like that work
>>1189421actually wait, I saw some greek gigachad yes meme religion icon earlier, is there a custom equivalent for Athena? I could just make it work on my own end, even if the names would be scuffed like I was some filthy fucking roman.
>>1178071Who the fuck can be bothered micromanaging that much bullshit?
>>1189097noooooo, they are peaceful!
>>1189617You generally don't have to micromanage jack shit beyond appeasing your direct vassals (not their direct vassals) and playing what's essentially cookie clicker with your direct holdings.There's a lot you can do in the effort to herd vassals, but it's not all that complex on your end unless you're doing some megamind shit with armies that's going to be overkill compared to having a commander with a bigger dick and bigger army outside of the most extreme of circumstances.
I don't know what I was expecting.
anyone check orientalists yet?
>>1189878I think this is what they became.
>>1189886is that Jizya on the right?
>>1189890Nah its, +25 popular opinion, increased levy reinforcement and conversion speed for -10% domain tax for Shriners.Honestly, it feels like all the religions are less interesting slight variants of the CK2 mod with an overwhelming amount of the tenet "Sacred Herbs" on every other faith. Not to mention the dozens of "Catholic, but..." religions everywhere.
>>1189909maybe we'll be lucky and it'll turn out to be a meme placeholder in some cases
>>1189871>Castrating prisoners grants piety>Dismantle patriarchy by the swordActually hilarious. This should be kept in the "Based" Fork.>>1189909I assume they removed all the fun localizations like Agraba, ect. as they are literal shriners. Ill have to check tonight.
>>1189980So long as they removed Nation of Islam references from Shriners I'll be happy personally, even if I have to rename titles.
>>1189985I think they are toning down the "hard muslim" lore as they kicked the Muslim dude off the mod team. Keeping passive westernized versions while memory holeing all else; including his self insert in California. Troon might have felt uneasy with a vigorous Islam...Same Sex is not criminal in 9/10 Islamic Faiths with 1 also being a Gay Islam Heresy.
>>1190006So many religions are gay for some reason. Even the Trailwalkers in extremely rural right wing areas accept fags.
>>1189886Strange that they’re just the Shriners now, not warped by the apocalypse.
>>1190008>Troon Mod Lead>Why is everyone gay in this Dark Age Feudalism Simulator?We have the answer but he is determined to make this a Medieval Game with Current Year temperament; too bad.
>>1190026>Troon Mod Leadalso jewish as well as a troon. a Joon one might say
>>1189980>"Based" Forwhere is it ans who is developing it?
>>1189909dude weed>>1189875weed lmao
>>1188351mercator is used for a very special reason, mostly because its navegationally useful.
Honeslty the only thing that matters right now is that the mod is out, maps and assets are in the game, and that some flavor is added.The religions/culture is easier than ever before to mod.
What if instead of this sacramental herbs tenet they just made the dudeweed another character trait that could be righteous sinful or ignored by faith entirely, maybe viewed differently/have its rate affected based on culture?
>>1190295too much work, that would divert what little dev power they have left away from their new heckin bad ass faith for some obscure minority that is now the majority of an area that in the modern time is 99% white. Did I mention that the faith also is female dominated and believes in same sex marriage!
>>1190300it's OK they pulled a pickle rick bro, they selectively bred themselves for generations after the actual ones died off to take their place
>>1190295>>1190300There's already a stoner trait in vanilla.
>>1190449wasn't that specifically for cakes, not grass? There's a significant difference.
>>1190449>>1190451You don't understand, the time it would take to change the localization isn't worth the effort. We only have 1 person who actually knows how to implement and he's currently working on my new Muslim faith for Atlanta that will have an even that will instantly destroy the HCC 2 years after the start date if their emperor isn't of the Tuskegee culture.
>>1190463I think it would be interesting if a modder took the official release and implemented actual content alongside joke content such as that via game rules so that it functioned as both parody and actual improvement. It would need to adhere to terms of service strictly though, the tranny modder is going to law school so that shit would be in danger of getting flagged if it was to blatant of a "fuck you" to whatever horseshit it is they're shoving into the game.
When is this shit releasing
>>1190558Nobody knows, but probably this year.
Info on Mexican faiths is on the Twitter now. The CK2 version had basically nothing going on there so it's still maybe better, but it looks like they just took every dumb idea and shoved it in there. There's a fucking scientist religion for some reason.
>>1190582Tenets in beta are: Carnal Exaltation and Hedonistic.
>>1190612Are there incest religions?
>>1190612>literally religion based on college livelel
>>1190582They look incredibly lame.>university religion>science religion>poetry religionDo spics not have culture or folklore?
>>1190938we do, a lot. It's just that the gay niggers running the mod don't want to hurt fee fees. So we get homo catholicism #32343434
>>1180410Was it? kekThis guy is a pure subhuman. Made a whole mod just to jerk off his perfect self insert OC/
Does Texas still revolve around football in this one or did they do away with all that because football is what the big bad jocks who bullied the modders in high school played? I got a kick out of that and it's the only thing I remember about this shitty mod.
>>1191219It’s not even the 183893020 catholicisms that are so bad. The religion where they write psychoanalytic poetry just pisses me off. It’s such a stupid, boring concept. Surely Central America has something more interesting than some 19th century poet!
>>1191297Texas is Catholic because ebin canticle for lebowitz
>>1191364Lame. It was kinda funny how in the old one most everybody in Texas was basically aligned with college football teams.
>>1191219It's not so much people running the mod as some random Mexicans from the community forcing their version because nobody else in the community cares about anything between Texas and Oaxaca.
>>1191297There hasn't been much talk of that.>>1191364Not only. There's also the exceptionalists (Americanist faith), and some dust riders and some of the petrochemical religion
>>1192366Dust Rider has been replaced with “Saguarorrinche” and “Limpio”, which are esoteric Mexican religions I can’t wrap my head around.
>>1192386Well fuck, I guess the tranny fork is doing dumber shit than I expected.
>>1190548>terms of service>for a fucking comedy mod to a map painter game
>>1192472thinking more Steam ToS so any bitching/moaning would amount to nothing steam would do about the mod
So what are the chances of a Fork for the fork itself to unshit the CK3 version once it comes out? Because im hearing about this and it just sounds.... immensely disappointing.
>>1181465>its the libuls !!!!Get your head checked
>>1192588there’s been mentions of a fork by some of the less troon/Jewish devs.
>>1192636Probably wishful thinking
>>1192588I've been considering doing a fork that at the very least restores most of the CK2 AtE starting setup they changed for no reason.
>>1192588pretty likely someone will make a version that cuts off a bulk of SA for the sake of top-down map orientation, though I assume it'll quickly be left unattended and get outdated
>>1179980Yes in fact I almost always rotate the camera so Japan doesn’t look retarded. Whoever thought north should be east and south should be west in Shogun 2 was a retard.
>>1192873You can also just uncheck the auto rotate option in the settings and turn it back yourself
>>1192884Geographylets always reveal themselves. There have been some fucking stupid ideas in the tranny fork, but people who can only see the world in one orientation are laughably dumb with regards to spatial perception.
>>1192884>>1193000guess the map orientation will work as a brainlet/amerimutt filter kek
>>1192995it doesn't adjust name orientations, does it?
>>1188950So what's the verdict. Is it pretty complete?Or better to wait for the full release?
>>1193292Nowhere near complete.
>>1193000>>1193052DESU, it doesn’t take very long to get used to the weird orientation but it does lead to your head being at a constant 45 degree tilt.
>>1192594American - shut up.
>>1193354non-american spottedprepping intervention
>>1193271No, but Paradox puts that shit at any angle they feel like anyway. And even a mod that crops and rotates likely wouldn't fix how the papermap is rendered.
>>1192760I don’t know, someone has been discussing it with certainty.
>>1190666That's based on the works by Jose Vasnconcelos, known Mexican commie that shaped post-modern Mexican thought.Also checked
Calgary is wholesome Islam.
is there still a decision to form the kingdom of Tennessee for Catholics or anyone else?
>>1194456The >cosmic racebullshit is fucking hilarious desu>w-we're special because we got literally raped so hard by the Spanish and had our culture destroyed and replaced with a bastardized colonial culture with small elements of our previous traditions
>>1194727Deeply cringe - spic cope, but it’s a religion.
>>1194727if you think that's funny look at all the post-modern religions in brazil, they make that one look sane
>>1195076I know, I know. It's just funny that Mexicans actually believe this shit IRL.
>>1178071How do I play this? Is it out now?
Is this actually representative of Toronto?
>>1195094>literally no ethnic majorityit's fantasy, for now
>>1195100I think if you add Byzantine, Caucasian, Mediterranean and Slavic together you get a white majority. Maybe. Barely.
>>1195083Closed beta, but you can find leaked versions.
>>1195114Literally in this thread
>>1195116Thanks sorry I’m retarded
>>1195094pretty close to what wikipedia has listed
>>1195094>Asian plurality probably
>>1195094They always overestimate the African %. I think Maritimer or Newfie is like 15% African (when, in reality, it’s 1%).
>>1178082Canada/America are still on the left, and I associate left to right with top to bottom. >>1180393I assume it's the muslim enclave in CA>>1187938Pretty>>1178071Based Fork is our only hope
>>1195344>Newfie is like 15% African (when, in reality, it’s 1%)and don't forget this is after a world ending plague and the apparent erasure of racism. Newfie blacks would have been bred out AT BEST, if racism really was somehow erased in the neo dark ages. Multiculturally progressive hives like vancouver and san francisco would have likewise interbred, though the ratios are more favorable to minorities in the inevitably homogenized new ethnicity.It's fine (its not but whatever) if they want to make north america less white, but PLEASE trannies, stop pretending that medieval and tribal societies in america would be conducive in any way to your cosmopolitan vision of utopiatl;dr you can have no racism OR visible minorities, NOT BOTH.
>>1195370Just checked - it’s Maritimer that’s 15% black. Newfie is 90% caucasian and 10% “white_indigenous”
>>1195380that's good, from a 10 to a 9 on the tranny fantasy scale
>>1187938new strangereal just dropped
>>1195370I find it fucking hilarious that the North America trannies overestimate non-white minorities (why do the Dietsch, the descendants of the Amish, have blacks?) and the South America sudacas overestimate white ones, hence Russian Brazilians, Hunsrikers and Patagonian Welsh among others having hard majority white ethnic mixes.Hell, the mennonite descended plautdietsch have literally 100% Caucasian as their listed ethnicity in the files
Going to make my OC donut steel culture in Tampa of Greek pirates who also collect sponges
>>1195515Is this something Florida Greeks do?
>>1178082Eh, it has it's charm. Kind of like the old medieval maps which all had East on the top.
Will it have muslims and jews
>>1195723Yes but the Muslims will naturally be tolerant of faggotry because the troonjew hates the idea of Muslims that don't act like white liberals with a coat of brown paint
>>1195748rightwhat is planned for brazilcan I play as a gaucho chad and conquer america
>>1195753Yes. There's Brazilian Gauchos and Argentine Gauchos. Also a myriad of meme cultures like Patagonian Welshmen, Italians, Germans and Russians in Brazil, Neo-Incas, Falklanders, etc etc
>>1195584Yes. Tarpon Springs has a large (local) Greek-American influence, with their own take on the old tradition on diving for sponges.
>>1195515baseddon't forget to give them some kind of pseudo-byzzie larp formable title
>>1195758>falklanderswhat's the problem with those.Or with a couple funny cultures here and there in south america to liven things up.(Beyond that the mod needs more wacky not less of it)
>>1195991Nothing wrong with them.Apart from the fact the Falklanders are in the Patagón culture group
>>1195927Expect nothing less from a Byzaboo
>>1195493It's an intentional policy, because the correct numbers apparently get misperceived as too low by end users
>>1195515Honestly the Greek community north of Tampa becoming militant and turning into Orthodox Pirates is more likely than the Shriners taking over the region post-apocalypse. A modder could probably also do something interesting with the Scientologists in the area. A sham that CK3 doesn't have Societies.
>>1196196Scientology is already present as a fringe religion in Eastern Cali/Nevada, if I'm not mistaken.And I would like the orthodox pirates as another contender in the Sea of Cannibals (ATE's bookmark name for the Carribean)
>>1196214There’s no Scientology in CK3. The fringe religion in desert Cali/Nevada is based on a 60s UFO religion, Ashtar Galactic Command.
>>1196078Fair enough that's kind of gay and if the falklander sprites are like 20% brown I'm going to sperg because that's basically the only place in the entirety of south america where you'd be warranted for making the genetics 99% white.
>>1188766I was able to get it to work after I deleted the loose file with the main mod directory.
>>1196782They're 10% "Mediterranean_Indigenous" aka mestizo for some fucking reason
>>1197170>>1196782It's probably copy-pasted form some nearby culture.
>>1197569I misremembered, it's actually less nonwhite than expected.
>>1197626It's funny how some cultures have alarmingly round numbers for their minorities, almost like they were shoehorned in
>>1197631Why isn't this culture on the map?
>>1197636is there some list of all this shit posted somewhere?
>>1197638In the leaked beta's (>>1188950) cultures folder.
>>1197636It looks like it's meant to be roaming coutiers/guests, possibly due to them being assigned the Diasporic Tradition. The only other one that I see with that is Yiddish, who only have a few holdouts.
>>1197631>Gaelic speaking Maritimers are 20% non-whitelol, lmao
>>1198036Hilarious how they need to put blacks in EVERY culture. Wouldn’t be surprised if the Inuit are 10% African.
>>1198036Yeah, but it'd need to be set to spawn.
>>1198145Are there even that many brownish Jews in the USA? I thought it was mostly just Ashkenazim.
>>1198145Inuit are 10% white and 10% mixed white-inuit for some reason. Why are all the numbers so round?Also, isn't Svalbard inhabited by like, actual Norwegians and Russians?
>>1198232Yeah, Svalbard is all Nordics and Slavs. There’s more Thai than Inuit/Yupik. No idea why they made it Yupik.
>>1198145>nig yids instead of Black Hebrew Isrealites as their own thingDas not rite
>>1197636What does white asian even mean?Happa?
>>1199029I think so. Strange that it’s now canon that Asians got bred out by whites.
>>1178071>mobile and Baldwin got merged Motherfucker!
>>1179910>>1180166After the China dlc, Brazil was in ATE as a stand-in for the "super powerful offmap empire." The Coffee Wind also replaced the silk road, as a coastal trade route that winds from the Brazillian Empire through the Gulf and up the eastern shore. I assume they wanted that to still be a thing for lore, but the offmap power mechanics haven't been added yet
>>1180743Did they delete Bermuda? The Bermuda nigga pirate vikings were one of my favorite ATE starts
>>1199102It’s still there. Don’t know if it’s still pirates though.
>>1179268but now you need to get two people to leak. Literally twice as hard.
>>1199112>>1199102It's still there.
>>1199098No, that seems like an out of date picture. I'm playing the latest beta, and they are separate counties in it.
>>1198246>>1198232It's because the Devs are fucking delusional about reality. They respond to suggestions that the they should decrease the indigenous representation with threats to increase it. So, of course they increased indigenous representation even in places where they represent a vanishing or non-extant percentage of the population.
>>1179268>>1200212How are they going to individualize the files when they literally give everyone the same link?
>>1200798Svalbard is the weirdest case though. There were NEVER Inuit in Svalbard. Whites are effectively indigenous.
Who gives a fuck about this WHERES THE NEW DEPOSED MOD DROP
>>1200802just talking how this system works in general, dunno what they are doing here
Beta been updated yet?
>>1202840yes they released an update yesterday but shit's still fucked all over the place including things they supposedly fixed like peasant revolts not working
>>1203489Anyone gonna drop the files?
>>1205467At least they got around to finally making some endonymic names also>californian empire>not ruled by house yudkow
>>1186534Cypress Hills FormationThat's why
>>1205915What changes did they make with endonyms?
Anyone else getting a CtD on startup?
>>1206319Nothing too big, just things that should have been in from the start. "The Dakotas" is now called "Seven Council Fires" because it's ruled by a Lakota, and Comancheria is actually called Comancheria again when its ruled by a Comanche. There are might be more endonymic names but that's all I noticed. I think the kingdoms of Kansas, Nebraska, and Colorado are all new from last beta too.
>>1207173and here's the new Californian Emperor
>>1207182Oh wonderful, another black man.
can't get the mod to show up. I just put it in my normal mod folder?
There should be LGBT and BLM religion that have the US President as their shared rite head.
>>1207182>implying that blacks won't get bred out of existence in California within two centuries
>factions fucked with people joining at +100 relations>playing as americanist is fucked because if you are well-liked and become president your realm gets turned into a theocracy FOREVER