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Chad
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>muh noble savage
Warcraft II: Tides of Darkness did Orcs better.
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>>1117484
You get to fight plenty of classic orcs too.
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>>1117477
They killed off the bigger Chad.
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For me? It’s Kel’ThuCHAD
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>>1117512
>brainless slave of demons
>chad
lmao
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>>1117581

isn't being a brainless slave to basic impulses what chad generally means in 4chan culture?
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>>1117477
>lead writer's self-insert
>"I'm not like the other orcs"
>does basically nothing in the game
>one of the least fun heroes to actually use
Nah.
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The true Chad of the game.
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>>1117607
Based and will-to-power-pilled.
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>>1117595
you are a bonehead
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As a kid and even now I never liked Thrall. He is boring. He never gets angry, even when he's angry. He shares models and abilities with decrepit old Shamans. He misuses his Hammer as a ranged weapon. He's a lame support and his Wolves do everything.

You never see in Warcraft 3 why he leads the Horde. Why people follow him. He is a Mary Sue, who gets all that for free and uncontested. Despite also being in the wider Lordaeron Region he never interacts with the Blackrock Clan, because he's too much of a Pussy to fight them.

Later we find out that he's not even a real Warchief. He only has 2 Clans that follow him. Frostwolf Clan, who were always autistic outsiders and the Warsong Clan. But as soon as he lands in Kalimdor he abandons the Clan System and mixes everyone together. Everyone is a cosmopolitan Orcmutt. There are no Orc Clan Leaders. The Developers of Guardians of Azeroth had to invent the leader for the Warsong Clan in Kalimdor.
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>>1117477
No way, he's honestly a bit of a wimp for an orc.
>>1117707
It was the trend of the "wider game universe" where you have to buy books or other things to get the backstory instead of making in game scenarios. At least they had that bonus campaign to show how the jungle trolls joined.
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>>1117718
>It was the trend of the "wider game universe" where you have to buy books or other things to get the backstory instead of making in game scenarios. At least they had that bonus campaign to show how the jungle trolls joined.
I read all of the Warcraft Books up to some point as a Teen. I know his backstory and I am not impressed.
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>>1117595
That's what reddit thinks.
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>>1117724
lorelet here, i thought he became the leader in that funky warcraft point and click adventure game? because he was raised by humans, he's smarter/more clever.

classic reason why half-orcs > regular orcs in D&D
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>>1118174
That game never released. But there were books about that journey. Being raised by Humans is one thing, but he also had Blue Eyes and Shaman Potential, so there's that too.
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>>1117730
Only reddit spams le chad shit to begin with so it checks out.
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>>1117477
>making a self-insert jesus character who you voice yourself
confirmed chad
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>>1117607
Chad corrupted into an incel school shooter. Fallen chad.
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>>1118479
Grom is a raging retard
Thrall is a cuckold orphan self-insert
Cairne only exists to be a loser and show how cool the self inserting orcs are by sucking them off after they beat up some loser centaurs for them
The only true chad in WC3 horde is Rexxar
>The entriety of reign of chaos orc campaign is thrall tard-wrangling his brother from being a raging retard
>the moment thrall leaves grom does raging retard things
>but it works out because warcraft was written by self-inserting cali cucks and instead of a cosmic threat thwarted by the literal emperor of mankind like in warhammer all it takes to beat them is a raging retard that fucked everything up to begin with getting mad enough to kill the big bad
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What are some good custom campaigns?
I just reinstalled
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>>1117477
You just know he banged that.
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>>1118784
Rise of the Blood Elves, Curse of the Forsaken, Shadows of Hatred, the one about the Scarlet Crusade (I am blanking on the name).
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>>1118802
How many of these work on the pre-Reforged, pre-Battle.net launcher patch?
Everyone seems to have updated their stuff to the latest post-Reforged patches without linking back to previous versions
Was kinda hoping I could get some of the coop campaigns to work with 1.27 but it's not seeming likely
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>>1118848
Is 1.27 the last safe patch or can you go a bit further without submitting to refordged/bnet launcher bloat?
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>>1118849
Last safe patch
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>>1118848
I think all of them.
Do custom campaigns even work with Reforged? Like, Blizzard flat out fucking removed custom campaigns in Reforged for some retarded reason.
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>>1118854
I've seen a playthrough of one of the coop campaigns and it was using Reforged so it must be possible somehow
The same people circumventing Blizzard's bullshit to make proper custom campaigns in Starcraft are probably doing it for Warcraft as well
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>>1118494
You are too harsh on Grom, bro. Of course he hates humans and slaughters them on sight - that’s how it was done in his day. And he drank the demonaide because he had to. Cenarius would have killed them all otherwise and there would have been no wood to build their city. The orcs were depending on that badly. Plus, in the end he fucking kills manaroth basically 1v1 and removes the demon taint on the orcs totally and permanently. Thrall even recognises that he saved the orcs. Grom is the biggest chad of wc3 - fact.
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>>1118850
What's wrong with the ones preceding the reforged patch? Stability?
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>>1118494
best horde character in warcraft is Blackhand followed by Gul'dan.
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>>1119169
The patches between 1.27 and Reforged all come bundled with the launcher
I haven't had any problems with 1.27 stability-wise
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how did this game turn into the fuckfest that is wow? why did we never get wc4?
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what do you think about warsmash?
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>>1119968
Did they really have to call them retardera?
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>>1117595
Chad means anything I like
Virgin means anything I don't like
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>>1119968
is this the open source wc3 made by that hive workshop schizo
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>>1117607
this
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>>1117477
why did the ingame models lacked pupils?
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>>1120316
because arthas was the pupil of uther, but uther failed to properly guide him. it's like poetry
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>>1121127
metzen...i kneel
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>>1117610
>edgy Orc sorcerer
>sells his people into demon slavery for power
>fails to conquer Azeroth
>demons skull fuck him and imprison him in the frozen throne
>starts mind-raping Azeroth
>mind fucks Arthas until he's insane
>steals Arthas' soul with Frostmourne
>fails to conquer Azeroth again
>demons try to kill him again
>steals Arthas' body
Wow what a will-to-power
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>>1117477
WCIII:
>Actual reasonable leader
>Only time he blundered it was about Grom (then again he didn't know the ginormous forest up north is home to dendrofile elves that out-savage even the most bloodthirsty orcs of the 2nd war)
>Wields great shamanistic powers
>Is bros with the big badass bull chieftain whose back constantly aches yet causally mauls Doomguards and causes earthquakes with his stomps
>Is one of the people most pivotal in saving Azeroth
>Actually tries to mend it all with the other factions
>Actually wants to change his race into something better
>Enlists the help of a half orc/ogre beastmaster to help out with Orgrimmar's problems, makes him his champion later on
>Genuinely liked by people
WoW:
>Starts as a reasonable one but as time goes cracks appear
>Takes in Garrosh and mentors him
>At one point he steps down from being warchief, he gives the position to Garrosh who rightfully says he's neither good nor experienced
>Shit hits the fan a lot
>Thrall blames Garrosh for his actions despite the fact that he put him in position of warchief (doesn't help that everyone else in the Horde was hostile towards Garrosh from day 1) while he played Green Jesus
>Kills Garrosh in a ritualistic duel, but not only he comes not half-naked and without armor, he cheats by using his shamanistic powers
>Spirits hate his guts for that and take away all this power
>Is actually hated due to the fact that he became a Gary Stu (even the people who were neutral or genuinely liked him started to hate him)

WoW murdered WC.
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>>1118849
>Is 1.27 the last safe
1.31.1 is the last pre-reforged patch and it has widescreen but still uses the classic menus and everything
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>>1125182
And the launcher?
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>>1125564
You can grab a version of 1.31.1 from Hive and when it asks for you to use either a CD-key or connect to the battle.net launcher, you pick CD-key.
Also if you have battle.net just turn off auto-updates to be safe.
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>>1117477
how fucked are we going to be with the 1.33 patch, guys? I'm thinking 11 out of 10 fucked because the faggots at Blizzard aren't going to implement it properly.

1.33 PTR
>broke LAN which breaks w3champions
>blizzard has 2 servers, w3c has 30
>blizz ladder comes because only retards pay full price for this game and retards can't install w3c
they're just gonna get fired and the project will be abandoned but in an even worse state
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Why not just give WC3 for free and use reforged nu graphics as paid skin like they did with SC Remastered?
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>>1127917
>Why not just give WC3 for free
I think that they have some kind of bureaucratic requirement to sell X number of units before they can change the monetization scheme or some other kind of stupid reason for not changing it. They also have NEVER put the game on sale; people post about it every year on the forums.

I suspect that they capitalize on people who would get filtered by an RTS anyways but who impulse buy games and so they keep the price at $30 or $40 depending on the version. Of course there are two versions of a dead game lmao. .
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>>1127908
Does w3champions only follow the latest patch?
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>>1127949
w3champions is essentially a mod that takes advantage of the LAN system to coordinate a ranked ladder. if LAN breaks in the battle.net version of warcraft 3 reforged, then w3champions breaks.
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>>1117512
the chad bait
>>1117595
the virgin passive aggressive mewling
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>>1123101
>poster is a nuBlizz 'narrative designer' that knows nothing but the ret-conned version
He was a shaman
United the Orcs
Gul'dan ursurped him
Never even tried to conquer Azeroth
Did what he could to preserve his race
Demons do torture-ritual to multiply his intelligence and power and make him obedient
Totally underestimate his original abilities
Yeet that thing to Azeroth in terror before he can do anything in the Twisting Nether
As Lich-King plots to thwart their plans even whilst under the watch of their most cunning agents
Succeeds so effortlessly the remaining dreadlords go months without learning the outcome

OG Ner'zhul makes J'Lor look like the shallow rip-off that he is, which is why nuBlizz had to character assassinate all of the most important figures in the whole story, or else they'd have another Garrosh on their hands: not afraid to call their weaksauce heroes 'bitch' and self-delete rather than stay part of their shitty writing.
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Warcraft is shit, only retarded neckbeards still play those shit games (and unironically cry how shit they are/are being treated while throwing money at blizztards kek)
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>>1117607
>Imma sell my soul to save my people.
>Now that I've sold my soul, Imma just kill my people.

Wow so deep
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>>1128204
It was a gradual fall from grace.
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>>1117484
Starcraft was better. Warcraft and its consequences have been a disaster for Blizzard Entertainment.
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>>1118798
Everyone's had her.
Well, except Kael. Lmao.
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>>1117477
kILJEDEN is the only real chad and he is very ANGRY
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>>1129850
What do these ESLs mean by this when they have ANGRY or FUNNY in their names for funnywarcraft3 which is just some vatnik posting gameplays of himself. It's like the SpyXfamily stuff I have been seeing, I don't watch anime frequently and it is very jarring to me.
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>Muscular like a bodybuilder
>Lets women mop him like trash
Why is he such a loser?
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>>1130086
Isn't he married to Tyrande?
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>>1130086
>>Lets women mop him like trash
well the night elves are a matriarchy...
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>>1130407
Yeah I was never that into Warcraft but I thought reversed gender roles was kind of their thing.
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>>1117477
does anyone still play wc3? and why is it that humans nearly always am+fe?
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>>1130774
am is for creeping at the start, fe is for dealing damage later on
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>>1130407
>well the night elves are a matriarchy...
so they claim, but it's really just the holes larping as strong womyn while the men take a nap, and as soon as they wake up they have to clean up a huge mess
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>>1130342
ah, so it's a bundy situation
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>>1130859
not sure what you meant with your fe, I mean Fast expand. like nearly every goddamn time it's 'hurr durr gotta drop the tc asap'
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>>1130342
Is he? i don't recall that. But I remember that Tyrande had a feeling for his brother even in the base game and the expansion campaign had this kinda love triangle thing.
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>>1130774
Water Elemental is arguably the best level 1 spell in the game, and Human can expand faster than any other race so why not abuse that advantage?
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>>1131358
yeah but it feels that this is what I see 19/20 times
no rifle opening, just always footes archmage fast expand and so on. it's gotten to the point that I autoscout and win 7/10 of those games and the one game that they dont I just backtrack the peon/acolyte
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>>1131289
ah yea,i mustve confused it for something else,but expanding is the easiest for humans so it makes sense that people do it. i mean,all of this has been done for literal years and thats what people are used to i guess
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This is very specific, but does anyone have the old battle chest? I found my old case but it only has frozen throne disc. I can’t play without reign of chaos.
What version of reign of chaos does the battle chest install? I’ll just download it I guess but I don’t know what version
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>>1132644
i think its either version 1,and then you can patch it to whatever version you like,or it will start the new battlenet install
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>>1117484
I have grown to hate the noble savage trope as the 'noble savages' are usually never actually noble and are just violent savages that the cuckold writers try to make seem noble because they're just an allegory for niggers or something.
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>>1134043
does thrall even succeed in turning the orcs into noble savages in the course of WC3? seems like he's constantly trying to rein in the orcs' nigrage
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>>1127917
lol lmao
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>>1134217
He only manages to do it to his own clan, the Frostwolves, who were aready much more civilised than the other orcs before him (and disliked for it). All other orcs remained niggerish
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>>1117707
doesnt thrall claim birthright of a clan.
isnt he the offspring of the big bad in the first warcraft? or was he the son if doomhammer?
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>>1134217
No, all the other orcs are still violent savages during and after Warcraft 3. World of Warcraft is all fan fiction tier writing anyway so whatever he does in there probably isn't any better. Always hated how Metzen couldn't stop sucking green cock when it came to writing.

I did really like the side campaign that was basically just a mini Diablo clone set in Wacraft 3 though, the one where you play as Rexxar.
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>>1132644
>not pirating everything even if you have a physical copy
lmao
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>>1134632
Son of the Durotan, who was the head of the frostwolf clan. Durotan and his wife were murdered and thrall was taken and raised by a human who kept him as a slave before he lead the uprising and rejoined the other orcs.

Doomhammer was just the last warchief of the horde, who went into hiding after they lost the war. He sought out thrall after word spread of him leading revolts. Thrall is the last legitimate heir of the last chieftain. Thrall never tried to lead the frostwolf clan, instead he just reformed the horde. There's like 3 different hordes in the game. One led by Blackhand's son in blackrock mountain who is allied with nefarian, and one led by Kargath Bladefist in Outland in service to illidan.
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>>1130407
>matriarchy
>Sleep all days with bros having sick dreams while holes are running around shooting trespassers
Sign me up.
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>>1120215
what?
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>>1130086
I hate Malf's WoW look
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>>1137787
the guy who's making the open source wc3 posts schizo ramblings on hive workshop when he's not working on the project
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>>1130086
still better than Incellidan
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>>1137810
link?
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>>1138064
not original guy ,but the dude is named retera , the dude has made a fuckton of shit for the warcraft 3 community and is really talented , but hes kinda of autistic
anyway
here - https://www.youtube.com/user/TheShorka
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>>1131300
You're completely wrong. Even before WoW the story was that Illidan was simping for Tyrande, but she gave 0 fucks about him and instead was banging Malfurion. Hell part of the reason Illidan took the Skull of Gul'dan is to impress Tyrande like the cuck he is.
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>>1117477
lok tar ogar
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>>1117484
it was actually a good idea but purely and cringy executed
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>>1119531
Because wow is more profitable
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>>1119531
unironically WC3 was made mostly to promote WoW
Frozen Throne was one big WoW advertisement
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>>1135286
>Son of the Durotan, who was the head of the frostwolf clan. Durotan and his wife were murdered and thrall was taken and raised by a human who kept him as a slave before he lead the uprising and rejoined the other orcs.
There's an excellent custom campaign for that, by the way.
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>>1117477
>Chad
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>>1140893
lord of the clans?
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>>1141391
Literally CEO of racism
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>>1141819
>The lesser races must be purged from the kingdom.
>t. Lord Garithos, Grand Marshal of Lordaeron
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>>1141391
He's a gigantic retard
>INHUMANS CANNOT BE TRUSTED!!!
>immediately allies with the undead and gets stabbed in the back
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>>1144184
he's presented as an evil guy but in reality he was right all along
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>>1144184
He is a stand-in for a White racist therefore he is based
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>>1144193
>>1144213
That has nothing to do with my point. He could have been a great character if he wasn't a hypocrite moron.
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>>1144276
he was right,but still somewhat dumb
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>>1144193
Him and Admiral Proudmoore.
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>>1144692
>Metzen's self insert kills le ebil human leader because he miss understood le dindu orcs
Lmao Blizzturd was always gay
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>>1144276
That wouldn't serve the liberal writers purposes for the narrative though
All right wing characters must be insane hypocritical psychopaths with no ounce of humanity or reason, this is such good writing it's why you've seen this character in western fiction nonstop since the 40s
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>>1144184
>>1144276
>immediately allies with the undead and gets stabbed in the back
He did out of necessity and he never thought they wouldn't stab him in the back.
Also you forgot to add
>immediately allies with the elves and gets stabbed in the back
Because elves were cunts that went to ally with the fucking horde, making everything Garithos did against them completely justifiable.
>hypocrite moron
He isn't hypocrite lol. He knew all along that elves and undead were cunts that couldn't be trusted, but he was forced to make a strategic alliance with them so that the humans can have a chance at reclaiming Lordaeron. And he isn't moron because in conversations with Kael and Sylvanas he constantly showed his distrust towards them, so he was fully aware of whats coming.
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>>1145360
>He knew all along that elves and undead were cunts that couldn't be trusted, but he was forced to make a strategic alliance
He wasn't forced to do anything, and he did blindly trust Sylvanas. Literally immediately after the dreadlord's mind control was lifted from him he allied Sylvanas, like a total retard.
>Grand Marshal Garithos: The spell has been lifted. Is the nightmare finally over?
>Sylvanas Windrunner: Stand down, humans. I have no quarrel with you.
>Grand Marshal Garithos: What is it you want, elf witch?
>Sylvanas Windrunner: We have a common enemy. The last dreadlord, Balnazzar, currently controls the capital city of your kingdom. If you help me kill him, I'll see to it that you get your lands back.
>Grand Marshal Garithos: Why should we trust you? You're part of the Scourge that drove us out in the first place!
>Sylvanas Windrunner: Not anymore. My only interest here is vengeance.
>Grand Marshal Garithos: Very well. I'll rally what's left of my forces and meet you outside the gates.
>Garithos leaves.
>Varimathras: Come now, you have no intention of giving them their lands back.
>Sylvanas Windrunner: Of course not. The humans are simply a means to an end.
We never see any scene of Garithos commenting that he knows the deal is a trap. That is your own head canon. The game clearly implies that he was completely trusting of Sylvanas.
Then on the end of the next mission, after Balnazzar dies:
>Grand Marshal Garithos: There, your business is done. Now, I want you wretched animals out of my city before I--
>Sylvanas Windrunner: Kill him, too.
>Varimathras: Gladly.
>Varimathras kills Garithos with a Rain of Fire.
Again, shows that he was actually expecting Sylvanas to hold her end of the deal and not betray him.

He was just a complete moron who failed to follow his own advice. Again, he could have been a great character if he actually practiced what he preached, but he was written as a retard.
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>>1144760
and they made a quest about collecting Proudmoore's essence of hatred in Shadowlands

what the fuck
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Did they patch the old voices back in the game ?
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>>1145376
>We never see any scene of Garithos commenting that he knows the deal is a trap
It is heavily implied because why would he trust undead more than elves? He constantly talks about how you cannot trust everyone so I don't think he didn't expect a betrayal from undead. He didn't trust them, but made a coalition because dreadlords were much bigger threat and he had very small forces.
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>>1145376
Garthos was just arrogant buffoon
he believed that undeads will just go away because of the human superiority
like he believed that he is a chad and undeads will behave like a docile virgins
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>>1146049
>garithos is literally just /pol/
imagine my shock
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SAY THE WORD
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>>1117484
this
>>1117512
i am so tired of zoomers. grom is a slighly stronger grunt with unique voice and portrait.
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>>1141391
today I will remind them
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>>1146468
>People who like a game from 2002 are zoomers.

You must be braindead and WCIII Grom was still good besides his WCII appearance.
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>>1146430
Raiders were my favorite unit in WC1, was stoked to see them return in 3 but then saw their damage. I hear they're used nowadays in some builds though so that's cool.
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>>1146023
Mate, the transcript is right there on the post. He trusted Sylvanas like a moron then died like a moron.
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>>1146940
>He trusted Sylvanas
That is your headcanon, there is no proof that he didn't lie
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>>1146474
classic
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>>1147070
i mean its all headcanon at this point
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>>1147070
The proof is in him walking right into his death. Keep coping though, it doesn't make him any less retarded.
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>>1124287
You're not wrong. Metzen even made him bald so he could better self insert.
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>>1145360
>Because elves were cunts that went to ally with the fucking horde, making everything Garithos did against them completely justifiable.
This only happened because he arrested and tried to execute their leaders.
If he never did that Kael wouldn't have left with Vash for Illidan which lead to the chain of events where the elves joined the horde.
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>>1147889
Wrong. Here's proof: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AK4WaIO19KE&t=1s
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>>1148065
There is no saving WarCraft...unless you take away WarCraft from Blizzard, give it to people who give a fuck about it, bring back the original WCIII creators and artists, declare WoW non-existent since it's a spin-off and make an actual sequel to WarCraft III that starts where TFT ended.
Same with StarCraft. Retcon SCII into some simulation with bad writing and have the UED too over 2/3rd of the Koprulu Sector while they are engaged with a TerranXProtoss guerilla alliance and the Zerg.

But these will never happen. Never ever. It seems it's time to move onwards...
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>>1137810
>>1138482
his latest video is deranged kino
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FSWiMzSzomc
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>>1149022
i still don't fully understand half of the shit he spews , but i respect him to a degree
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RoC main menu > TFT
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>>1149401
aye, though TFT main menu will always give me immense custom game nostalgia
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>>1137810
Kinda based, oh shit, he might actually be one of us!
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>>1141391
HUMANITY IS IN PERIL!
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>>1141391
I was having fun playing him in DotA. Too bad, they changed it in dota 2
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>>1149914
This, give me my fucking pony back.
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>>1127991
holy kek
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unironically Gul'Dan is the utlimatiest virgin
and he's even more virgin with the newest retcon
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>>1134043
it could be great as a story of young generation of orcs that have to deal with the sins of their ancestors(like germans after WWII) but as you posted >just an allegory for niggers or something.

and the worst part of it is that orcs were always primitive brutes without drinking demon blood
it gives them nothing other than tgreen skin lmao
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>>1118798
unironically Jaina and Thrall should be a marriage and having race-mixed children
that would be kino
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>>1149914
>>1149924
That was the most disappointing model change in Dota 2 after Bloodseeker
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>>1151445
Wasn't bloodseeker a shaman tinted red?
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>>1151600
Yes. I don't understand why Valve decided to eschew any fidelity and turned him into that ugly crap that is Dota 2's Bloodseeker.
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>>1151445
Personally, I think the BEST redesign would be Obsidian/Outworld Destroyer. I think that's an improvement over the WarCraft 3 model.
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>>1148113
Cope, the video.

Proudmore was a retard that didnt know how tonhide hisnpowerlevel.
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>>1146738
Their damage? It's the same as the troll berserker's and it's siege damage type so it rapes things like priests etc that can't outrun them.
Also their snare is very useful in a lot of match-ups and in general.
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>>1153996
>Also their snare is very useful in a lot of match-ups and in general.
net, surround, kill, ggez
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>>1153996
Were they buffed or something? I just remember feeling like they were weak at first.
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>>1154108
They buffed siege attack type on Frozen Throne so that it is not only effective against building. I think that one is the major one.
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>>1153386
>Proudmore was a retard that didnt know how tonhide hisnpowerlevel
Proudmore was a retard for not fucking his own daughter to put her in place.
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>>1149022
Terry Davis schizo kino in the making. Someone tell /g/!
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>>1151445
you don't like to play as stronk brack woman who need no man?
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>>1154147
Might have been it. Going raiders was a bit of a meme when I tried it.



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