In Mass Effect 2 when you meet the Illusive Man for the first time, he asks Shepard how he feels and you can respond with "I noticed a few upgrades, I hope you didn't replace anything too important". Seen here:https://youtu.be/GiP3SdNYkdg?t=97But throughout the rest of games in conversations with Jacob, Vega etc... Shepard just says no upgrades were needed whenever they ask about it. So is Shepard lying about his Cerberus upgrades?also this: https://gameranx.com/updates/id/6101/article/deleted-ashley-s-cut-scene-from-mass-effect-3/why was this cut? that scene seems like some fine ffucking video game art to me bruhs. so what the fuck happened? why wasn't it in the final game
>>971960The point was to recreate Shep 1:1.Obviously your resurrection wasn't completely natural and you're not 1:1, but that was the goal. In the end Shep was unintentionally 'upgraded'.
>>971960They upgraded his dick.
>>971960Holy shit that conversation
ME2 was supposed to start with Liara and Legion finding Shepard's frozen body. The entire game was recut fairly late into development.
Damn that deleted scene is some good stuff, what a shame. Guess they couldn't get some paragon/renegade choices right to get the conversation going or Bioware wanted 0 ambiguity about Shepard being the actual Shepard from ME1.
>Shepard 1.1Shepard is a fucking super-agent cyborg in ME2 that can drink absolute poison and get a mild hangover.
>>971960>also this: https://gameranx.com/updates/id/6101/article/deleted-ashley-s-cut-scene-from-mass-effect-3/>why was this cut? that scene seems like some fine ffucking video game art to me bruhs. so what the fuck happened? why wasn't it in the final gamebecause it clearly means that the "real" shepard died at the beginning of mass effect 2
>>972054Is that why a lot of the scenes with Liara and Legion feel a bit disjointed?
>>972302>because it clearly means that the "real" shepard died at the beginning of mass effect 2but that's a known fact through mass effect 2 and 3.
>>972443Yeah. Legion has dialogue in the game files for all kinds of shit that happens before you can recruit him.
>>972205Guess they can't afford it. Cerberus is a business after all
>>971960>also thisYeah that would have been nice texture. I assume they cut it because they didn't want to interfere with players headcanon shit they thought up when they played ME2, and they didn't want to have Shepard say "nope no afterlife shit, we're just meat Ashley. Go worship your backwards moon god somewhere else."Also pretty childish of Ashley who is supposed to be on ME1 Shepard's level now and not some enlisted grunt.
>>972484Other squadmates have that too. Apparently they originally didn't restrict Shepard from going to Ilium or recruiting Tali or Legion early in the game.But Legion and Liara pre-LotSB both have a lot of strange conversations with Shepard that never really seem to go anywhere.
>>971960>But throughout the rest of games in conversations with Jacob, Vega etc... Shepard just says no upgrades were needed whenever they ask about it. So is Shepard lying about his Cerberus upgrades?Yes. S/he blatantly displays superhuman strength several times, such as hefting multi-ton pieces of metal in the Suicide Mission, beating up a krogan in seconds, going head to head with a one-ton yahg that can throw a car-sized metal desk like a ball, fire weapons that would shatter the bones of regular humans (e.g. Widow), killing armored soldiers with single barehanded strikes in Arrival, shrugging off a dose of poison lethal enough to kill a regular man several times over in that side mission with the batarian bartender, kicking Kai Leng across the room, and so on.You can even directly upgrade Shepard's body in the ME2 research terminal to give him/her bulletproof skin via heavy weave.
>>971960See the hooded guy in morthal to cure your vampirism
>>972205maybe he's afraid of needles
>>971960They should have focused on the existential crisis and unwilling cybernetic rebirth of Shepard.Or at least bring it up some time. Miranda, Tali, and Legion would be great chances for it. Mordin too. Discussing your implants and how human you still are.
>>972857The thing where you get an email from your mom saying that you haven't contacted her since being fucking resurrected was both cool and very stupid (I know they couldn't really flesh it out too much because having a living parent is background-dependent)
>>971960that conversation is fucking kinothat's some robocop shit
>>972018he can now outperform liara's futa dick
>>972857Don't they super briefly bring it up in ME3 when you can find files on Project Lazaurus?Its super brief though like "Haha what if I'm not real what if I just legit died at the beginning of ME2 and I'm just some AI or clone programmed to think its me."and then they go "Dont be silly Shepard :)" and you quickly move on.
>>971960all these mass erect threads make me want to play it, are they playable on PC?
>>972916Yep, but you'd gave to get the Origin version (or pirate) to get to experience all the DLC. Steam doesn't have it.
>>972916Wait until the remaster.
>>972989Guaranteed a better experience if you just pirate and mod the originals + DLC.
>>971960The cut scene is genuinely good. I remember there being one or two lines in ME3 at the Cerberus lab where Shepard can question whether or not they were the real Shepard or just a clone that thinks they are, but a full scene like this one would have been nice.
>>972857I just remember a quick line from Tali where she says, "You're real. And you're mine."
>>972986>>972989>>972996i played the second one (i think) for a while, it seemed fun. is the first one's gameplay really as bad as people say? is the third one really that bad?
>>971960Shepard's trying to play it cool, convince everyone else he's the same, and maybe he'll convince himself.
>>971960That's a great scene, desu. It was pretty jarring that we never see Shepherd have to come to terms with the fact that he died during the games. It would have been a great character moment.You'd have to give me context for when he's denying his upgrades to the rest of the crew but Shepard was never brought back as a pure organic from his death in ME2, if you read the descriptions of the lab upgrades they have a lot of mentions of Shepard's new cybernetic implants and how they interact with or upgrade them. He's a cyborg now, but as Project Lazarus had bringing him back as accurately as possible he shouldn't have seen any changes regarding his personality.
>>972205That has to be a pretty invasive procedure. I wonder how did Mordin go about placing medigel nanotubes all around Shepard's bones.
>>973076The first one's gameplay is clunky but it isn't that bad outside of the truly fucking awful upgrade system and the inventory management that comes with it. The third one has the best gameplay but the worst story that's rushed to shit and one of the most blundered finale to an epic saga in history that people are still mad about to this very day.
>>973100what's the best class?
>>973100The inventory management is extremely slow and clunky but I don't see what's wrong with the upgrade system outside of the absurd grind for level 60, it gave you so many bonus talents you could practically do whatever you want.>>973122In terms of brokenness, anything with Immunity (Infiltrator, Soldier, Vanguard) can facetank anything with no issue, and the talent for pistols is just ridiculous, so you should never have trouble beating the game.Now, power wise, take into account that unlike ME2 biotics here can affect enemies regardless of protection layers, so if you want ragdoll action you can have some absurd fun with how broken biotic powers are, outside of that I find Infiltrator a lot of fun because of having access to the vast majority of tech powers (and you can grab one of the two you lack through bonus talents, which unfortunately you must pick on game start) and how fun sniping can be in this game. The weapon customization system makes it so you can load up the sniper with high explosive ammo and just make people fly.Overall I think the most fun classes are Vanguard and Infiltrator because of this.
>>971960>>972018A pulse wanghttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G8Ifaeff0mA
>>973143vanguard it is
>>971960>I noticed a few upgradesBig futaschlong for femshep
>>972205I always figured ONLY Shepard could be upgraded by Mordin because he's already a cyborg
>>972445On not being the "real" Shepard... it was obvious to me since the beginning of ME2. but Mass Effect has the undisputed dumbest fans of any franchise, so it went waaaaaaaay the fuck over all their heads.
>>973097Mordin can do that blindfolded dude
So they also copied his resurection?
>>973100I really liked the ME2 upgrade system. I figured technology grew exponentially lore-wise after salvaging from the Geth attack on the Citadel, so you need Mordin and EDI to help research the latest trends in weapons technology.
>>972857>oh you're having an existential crisis over being a resurrected cyborg?>here let's have a literal robot, the woman responsible for turning you into frankenstein's monster, a doctor responsible for committing genocide, and tali for some reason spend the next three hours telling you about your overwhelming amount of implantsmaybe they could give shepard a user manual after
>>972857I remember before ME2's release where I first saw Shepard die, I really thought they were going to play around with the prospect of being a literal golem made of ruined flesh and mechanical parts to do something interesting character exploration stuff.Lol no
>>973100I love the first games gameplay so much better. As with an rpg, once I’ve leveled up enough and gotten good gear I should be able to tank rockets and missiles and just riddle some Garth with a handgun point blank. Instead of having to hide in cover all the time in a boring corridor
>>974545I'm probably one of the few people who really enjoyed the uncharted worlds. You can have engagements with enemies at a compound at a distance of 200m and could approach from any where you wanted. Sure it wasn't the most polished experiences but it was unique and fun to me. All of this was lost in the sequels and I feel like it was a mistake.
>>974587Yep. More than anything they should have kept how open battles could be.
Posting some source on a Liara mod.Yes, it's that mod.https://twitter.com/cubikore/status/1321189520029577216
>>973097I think it might be something done by robots, it just needs a science specialist to oversee the actual operation and maintain the robotic equipment - Mordin did have a bunch of mechs he refurbished himself siting around the clinic on omega
>>975199Is it? I don't know. I was just across it in my feed.
>>972054God damn it why didn't they do that
>>974587I'll agree with that. It definitely make the engagements more memorable than in any of the other games
>>974587I loved the Mako exploration myself, flawed as it was I thought it made for fairly interesting moments and lent a very believable sense of scale to the universe, it really did make you think "Man, space is huge and really empty, even the bits where there is something are mostly empty themselves". But there were also bits were you found those Prothean ruins or that hidden off place in Eletania with the quicksilver orb that gives Shepard a vision of a caveman's life. It was a pretty experimental and rough feature but it was something that had to be there to round up the experience. It's a real shame to see it replaced with the Hammerhead and planet scanning later on, bit of a microcosm for the franchise in general. Flawed ideas that get thrown out instead of refined. Purely in terms of vehicles the Mako was much more interesting because of how wonky the physics of the jumping tank were, the other thing had nothing to offer outside of hovering around. Still a positive that it was added at all, but it did make me miss the ME1 equivalent..
The whole "you were braindead for 2 months after going through a planetary entry just in your hardsuit and we spent 2 years remaking you" plotpoint seems so fucking dumb given how once it was put out there they did everything they could to not really mention it or involve it in the story. Like what's the fucking point. Then again them not handling the plotpoints they introduce is kind of the whole meme behind the series I guess.
>>972205Well I remember Garrus liked his scars but yeah, not helping joker with that technology is pretty weird
>>973143vanguard doesn't have immunity.
>>973966Shepard wasn't touched by the Vorlons. He's more like the 6 Million Dollar Man.Nice try, JMS. Go back to saying DS9 is stolen whole cloth from you.
>>972302>because it clearly means that the "real" shepard died at the beginning of mass effect 2Unironic good writing though. It brings back the actual consequence of death.
>>979579>>972205Maybe those upgrades require a cyber-mechanical framework that is provided by Shepard's resurrection implants?
>>982874nice and diverse
>>979550EA meddling is what happened.
>>979550My take is that BW wanted an easy lore explanation for allowing players to change their appearance and class.
>>983239That's stupid though, you can explain that in a less drastic way.
>>983282Bioware loves doing stupid things.
Killing Shepard was an absolute waste of time with no pay off.
>>984044Yeah, but in the original "Geth Revive Shepard" scenario, there's some thematic shit going on.
>>977868>>974587I've been into this one little side planet called Agebinium in ME1 for a while now. There's a very short sidequest and there's nothing much too it, but the colour of the ground and the sky and the red giant pulsating in the distance is so fucking cool. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hXfCYUrPCXU
>>984818One of my favorite channels on Youtube, his ME1 content is incredible
>>972205>cerberus spending money on cosmetic surgery for aliensillusive man would have had a stroke
Did any of you guys know there's a ME parody game that got announced in April? How am I only just hearing about this? I mean, it looks awful going by the trailer but I would have expected it to be shitposted to death>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0xD1VUtN188
>>988239Shepard is in command, The Illusive Man wanted someone capable of challenging him, even though he regretted it by Mass Effect 3
Just a reminder that my imaginary space wife is better than your imaginary space wife.
>>988513I seen it, but I don't know much to shitpost about it.
>>974353Wasn't there an interview stating that they toyed with ideas like that? It was either "flesh golem", clone, Terminator with a copy of Shepard's consciousness, or lone geth/some other guy with an obsession with Shepard. Then they went with original Shepard because they thought those initial ideas were "too derivative".
>>991020If so I'd fucking looove a source on that
If Shepard was a flesh golem or VI or something, wouldn't Shiala or Liara be able to find out, since they've been inside the original Shep's mind?Could've been a neat plot point.
>>991020If they didn't want to be "derivative" they should have dropped the whole thing altogether.