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Protect her smile
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>>965290
Been exploring the shit outta BS1 still havent found the dog fucker’s house.
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>>965290
This "game" is the biggest pile of shit I have ever played.
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so I just finished my second go through of BS 2 and have gotten the ending where whats through the white door kills me and one where I save alice and im still missing so much shit its insane
>various madness spirits
>havent met snake god
>havent found red
>havent completed the rabbit knight, griffin, or doctors events
>no idea what to do with the cake from the rabbit hole
>no idea how to get past the giant fish at the bottom of the sea
>no idea what pricketts ring is for
>no idea how to meet hare/hatter/mouse
>no idea what triggers the white door and all what happens to npcs
Only thing I can pat myself on the back for right now is getting through the mushroom villages hidden path and finding the ring. This game is so much more fun than I thought it would be I guess Im gonna try a run fully insane without bothering with npcs to see if that gets me anywhere.
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>>965464
After making a covenant or killing one of the demonic princesses, a fairy in Holy Forest will let you use a boat she made. Use it to reach her house.
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>>965464
You should have a map in the game folder
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>>965517
are you sure you need to kill or covenant? I think you just have to encounter them since I got red before I did the covenants/killings (I always do both)
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>>965517
It's after you beat the knight in armor at fort ivern.
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>>965486
>no idea what to do with the cake from the rabbit hole
It has no use besides deshrinking yourself if you drink the potion.
>no idea how to get past the giant fish at the bottom of the sea
Run like a Dodo
>no idea how to meet hare/hatter/mouse
You really need to do some exploring if you still haven't found every location.
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>>965544
>>965553
I think it just depends on progress points and not a specific trigger.
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I want poro's sloppy seconds
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>>965486
You know you can just ignore the door and keep exploring, right?
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>>965553
On my last run she appeared right after I killed Rapunzel which is the first princess I go after, so it's probably based on progress points as >>965559 said.
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>>965554
I assume they are alive at the tower if I get there before whenever the white door event occurs if not I have no idea where else they would be unless there is some secret room in the rabbit hunting zone
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>>965598
You'll also find the root of the problem there.
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Everyone thinks they are tough shit before they gotta fight the deep sea knight
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>>965486
>>havent met snake god
That proves you aren't a faggot.
>>no idea what to do with the cake from the rabbit hole
Have you never read Alice in the Wonderland? Not even a synopsis? Alice drinks something and gets tiny, eats a cake and gets big. Goes down the drain and meets a bunch of animals that are wet, a retarded Dodo suggests a senseless race in circles so everyone dries up etc.
It's a reference. If you eat the cake inside the room of the Shrinking Potion, you will go back to normal size.
>>no idea what pricketts ring is for
Some unreadable messages and dialogues will be understood with that ring
>>no idea what triggers the white door and all what happens to npcs
There are 10 torches above it. Every time you do something that triggers progression (killing a boss, making a covenant etc.) one lits up. Once 10 are lit, shit happens. The doors, the mass killing of the NPCs. There is a killer out there. Find the culprit.
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BS2 savefile compendium

Includes saves at progress 9, before special scenes like Prickett's date, filling up the library, almost filling up the rape dungeon, before fighting the Old King, etc etc. If you want to bypass the grind, check some special scene or fuck around but don't want to go through another cycle this is for you.
READ ME file included that breaks down the conditions of the savefiles, give it a read.
https://mega.nz/file/EQ0GjRwJ#AGUNdQC6vxM1BXqvJZiiFlqi5aZjkAnMO5sozWH0P0w
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so are knight kings sword and the sword of giants just the best weapons? Not counting shit like the wand and catalyst for mages. giant sword and ring of shinda seem really strong while knight king can make you a real tank
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>>965935
I have favored the Andor Sword -> Heroic Vorpal Skills -> end turn with Deep Sea Anchor for bullshit damage.
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I am feeling i am getting close to meet the dog fucker.
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>>966113
>says the birdfucker AND frogfucker
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>>966121
I havent fucked the frog i am trying to kill her so winter mommy will hug me.
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>>965935
What's so good about the sword of giants besides the stun chance?
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>>966154
Err... you do know you can make a covenant and THEN kill the princesses? It's specially better to do so with Rapunzel since her ring gives an extra action
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>>966180
No i am already commited to the cause i must avenge snow white!
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>>965473
the most SOULFUL pile of shit you mean
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EMMMM's youtube channel is the most cursed thing ever like jesus, broken english talking chaos moon rabbits is not what i wanted in life but i got anyways.
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>>966279
Fucked up how he toned down on the creepypasta shit on BS
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is the red text during the rape after losing to The Crawling Little Girls supposed to be gibberish even with the Prackett ring? I can only read the last line.
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>>966279
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>>966303
Favorite part is when Remilia eats her sister and her insides are just a giant Meat Fan.
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>>965290
>>>/vg/
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>>966267
>plagiarised art
>soul
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>>966570
a Black Souls thread on /vg/? that would be a reality bending anomaly.
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>>966574
>plagiarised art
Holy shit, Bioschock fag is that you?
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For me, it's Miranda.
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Have you praised to our lord and saviour?
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>>966625
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>>966625
same
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Is there any benefit to maxing out the broken sword?
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>>967042
You get a weapon that deals more dmg the less hp you have.
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>>965935
I like the kishingatana because I can't go back after hearing that juicy crit sound every turn
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>>967042
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>Iron Hans
u wot
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>>967247
He has a 5 turns charge-up. When he is about to fire, Endure
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>>967256
I don't even tickle him, fuck
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>>967284
Toy a bit with your equipment. It's possible to kill him even at level 1 if you know what you are doing. I advise switching gears to ATK (or MAGIC if you are more into attacking with spells) and Speed and giving zero fucks about anything else like Health or Defenses. Iron Hans will only attack once each 5 turns but his attack is so bullshit it'd oneshot higher levelled players ignoring evasion. As long as you get like 2~3 turns in between his attacks, you should be able to always cast Endure before his hit and score some attacks.
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>>967309
Specced as offensively as I could. This will take hours since I do 40-60 and 120+ on crits.
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>>967341
Well shit. I don't even remember but do Poisoning, Burn and other effects (do they even exist in BS1?) work on Hans? If not and you aren't doing a Lvl 1 run, might be best for you to come back later.
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>>967350
They all exist but I don't think poison or burn works on him. I used charcoal pine resin to no avail.
I might just come back later.
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F-F-Fuck i liked the prostitute now shes gone.
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>>967483
SIMP
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>>967483
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>>967501
>>967570
Shush she did not deserve her fate its just honest good work.
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Turns out if you have enough pine resin, you can solve any problem.
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>gotta choose between doing jubjub pledge/rape for scenes or getting peter pans book
maaaaan
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>>967731
The choice is obvious though
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>>967731
I always do a covenant with jubjub cant imagine getting past the deep sea knight without her bonuses
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>>967782
Just stack 100% evasion + fear resist anon.
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>>967782
Just use Jabberwock's Scythe
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>>967731
You can get the book even if you spare her, anon.
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Is there any lore behind God's Odd Fish? From what I looked he is the enemy that gives the most Souls, even more than T C O
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What is max level for companions?
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>>967920
999
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>>967731
>pledge
Do yourself a favor and use the correct translation.
https://workupload.com/file/6hkmQAmg6pE
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Oh my fucking god fuck rapunzel.
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>>968014
I'm trying
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>>968019
Just whip your dick out bro, it's that easy.
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Fucking hell man i am already tired out of playing BS1 havent even done a ending yet AND BS2 IS BIGGER AND THERE IS A UPCOMING DLC HHHHHHNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNRRRRRRRGGGGGGGGH!!!
aahhh atleast the fucking exploring and being bad makes the wait for dlc3 smaller.
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>rape bill after doing all of his and the snake gods stuff
>figure I am fine since i killed the holy snake
>I am not fine
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
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which ending leads into 2?
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>>968215
He's a god. How can you kill a god? What a grand and intoxicating innocence. How could you be so naive?
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>>968249
Ending D, it helps to know that Ending D was added by DLC and thus not part of the "original" endings. Keep this in mind for BS2 as DLC3 hasn't been released yet
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>>968281
ok ty ty
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>>9662799
Can I get a link? I couldn't find it.
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>>966279
link please anon? I couldn't find it
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I remember there were interviews with EMMM in the past, but I didn't read because I didn't wish to be spoiled. Does anyone have a link to them, or translations preferably?
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>>968215
>rape bill
YOU GET WHAT YOU FUCKING DESERVE
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>>968419
https://ch.dlsite.com/matome/91660
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Ahhhh... DLC3...
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>finally become a chad in game
>now there is basically no enemy that can even fake being challenging

I hope DLC 3 step up the difficulty a lot
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In case anyone was wondering killing the god fish is not fucking worth it at all. All his soul gives you is a 100% up defense ring that also disables HP recovery. At least make you superboss rewards good wtf. Fight is aids too since he ends up using evade shit partway through and his last quarter is just a chant that provides endless damage/instant death. If you fight him you will need omnistrike or another sure hit move and have a evasion build.
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>>967780
You're right. Peter Pan it is.
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>>968249
You don't plan on skipping endings, do you?
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>>967849
No but we can guess that it's Leviathan.
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>>969104
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>>966625
Miranda chads, how do you cope with what happens in the second game?
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So one of the recollections is a scene in the dungeon after getting ending G just got that end with red but cant figure out how to get it
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>>968404
It was posted in the previous thread.
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCEDsL0jy1lIAIGGHu2RqpOw/Videos
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>>969303
Lose to TCO.
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>>969493
I am too retarded to keep up with acronyms man
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THUNDERSTRUCK
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>>969524
Final boss
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>>969524
TCO = The Crawling One. The final boss of Ending G.
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>>969534
>>969529
ah I though it was called mass of girl or someshit but if you get it that way why does the game say to look in the dungeon? Can I fight and lose to it in the chaos dungeon or something? Also do I need to redo everything for the routes or can I just press esc in the intro on any cycle now.
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>>969551
>ah I though it was called mass of girl or someshit
Red literally calls her The Crawling One as she tries to stab her.

>but if you get it that way why does the game say to look in the dungeon?
Are you using the F95 translation? Because in the official translation, the unlocking condition for the event at my left in pic related just says "????" normally.
Unless you're talking about some other event.

>Can I fight and lose to it in the chaos dungeon or something?
No.

>Also do I need to redo everything for the routes or can I just press esc in the intro on any cycle now.
You have to do it all again if you didn't make a savefile to go back there.
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>>969636
not that I knew that would be the TCO lose scene i mean this one below the main red 3. Not sure what the tragic hotel is either.
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>>968259
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iR-K2rUP86M
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2 Whores down 1 to go for my beloved snow white!
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>>969096
Evasion build didn't even work for me because he used a weird ability that bypasses evasion and removes buffs. I had to increase my HP and Speed to the point I wouldn't get killed if he ever did that.
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>>969656
The 2 scenes inbetween Alice are Red Hood related.
The one at left of your Alice is the rape scene (talk to her and choose Rape until she gives in), and the one at her right is the one at Hotel Poseidon, which you can access in the Ship Graveyard.
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Leg!
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Finnaly i got ending B after 9 hours i beat it now there is only 3 to go left.
Also the fog gate did not let me choose to let anyone else go through with me is that some short of glitch or do i have to level them up more?
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>>969824
I think you need to have a companion at level 100 for that.
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>>969836
Thanks.
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>>969777
Weeeeeeeeeeeee
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How are you supposed to kill The Old King? I beat him up, then he refuses to die and summons invulnerable clones that oneshot me through 100% evasion and Requiem
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>>970162
Gun Break those reflections
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>>970162
Okay, I've comprehensively beat BS1, I think. Can anyone tell me what I need to do or expect to buckle into BS2?
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>>970176
Avoid spoilers and figure it out yourself, ask questions on the second cycle.
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>>970176
Well, more Black Souls but better.
>>970171
hey it worked, thanks!
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>>970176
On BS1 check the wonderland corpse that gives ultimate abilities after ending D for some lore, try to kill it to see what it is, too.
Also, you might want play RRW before BS2, BS2 has quite a few references to RRW, and it's a very short game.
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>>968259
>Bill
Why kill him when he'll join the 41% himself?
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Okay which of the demon princesses did you fuck?
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>>970176
How comprehensively?
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>>970209
ALL of them and got reverse raped by Cinderella when I lost to her. I didn't do the Izu scene. I didn't even know Izu existed until these threads told me of his questline.
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>>970199
don't bully bill
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>>969303
Cheshire cat will be there, not in a cell, you can talk to her and have sex
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>>970363
also, it only works immediatly after getting ending G.
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>>970378
For a second I thought it was cosplay
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>>970199
>he actually got that dick slit
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Dose BS1 have NG+ and how do i unlock it i already got ending B.
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>>>/vg/
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>>970715
Go to the placr where you met leaf (north screen after the main area of the holy forest) and to the left side you'll see a crystal which starts NG+
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>>968259
Bill is so perfect
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>>970724
I missed this and had to restart the whole game because i fucked up once
I am mildly upset.
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>>970736
What happened to your saves?
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>>970724
After you make a new game?
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>>970750
No, after you beat cinderella and get an ending
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On BS2 When you lose to the final boss, Grimm actuallly apologizes to Edith and Lorina at the point where he loses his marbles and starts talking mojibake.

Also, pic related might be related to the five princesses game.
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>>970949
Got it.
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>>970982
>On BS2 When you lose to the final boss, Grimm actuallly apologizes to Edith and Lorina at the point where he loses his marbles and starts talking mojibake.
Damn, first time I hear this.
I'd like to check it out, but my character can't die.
Got any pics?
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>>971006
Just die man its easy or you wont get grimm’s rape scenes you boogus.
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>>971006
I got it from the japanese wiki.
The text won't show up correctly even with prickett's ring on, you have to decode it manually.
Just unlock all H scenes and watch it.
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>>970982
>>971019
Shiiiiiit
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>>971018
>Just die man its easy
The enemies literally can't kill me. It's beyond me.

>or you wont get grimm’s rape scenes you boogus.
Was there any besides G's?
I already unlocked every sexual scene anyway.

>>971019
Oh, you're talking about losing against TCO. Alright.

>The text won't show up correctly even with prickett's ring on, you have to decode it manually.
Wait, you can decode it? I thought it was just flavor, lol.
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>>971044
Wait, you can decode it?
Yes.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mojibake

Another detail I got from the japanese wiki, the song used on the Holy Forest is called Liar Fairy
http://mart.kitunebi.com/m-art_LiarFairy.mp3
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>>970715
>I already got ending B.
Now try to get A, you have to saving everyone.
Use this if you're not sure what to do.
https://pastebin.com/tANDVMzn
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>>971019
>The text won't show up correctly even with prickett's ring on, you have to decode it manually.
I was wondering about that, I remember trying it with the ring and it not translating back when I played it
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>>971098
Oh boy guess its gonna take more then 9 hours for this.
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>>971119
Getting to the ending on NG+ should take you 1/3 of your first run time or less.
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>>971098
What causes FOG level to increase? Is it just killing bosses that stand behind fog gates?
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>>971044
>The enemies literally can't kill me
That's what ring of fragile life was made for.
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>>971150
Killing bosses and talking to princesses maybe? I'll have to test it.
I think the only boss that doesn't increase progress is the Pied Piper. But some events may be trigerred by killing a specific boss regardless of progress, again I'll have to test it some time.
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>>971019
Do you have the translated text? I have absolutely no idea how to copy the text from the game into any decoding tool.
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>>971184
>talking to princesses maybe
Wait, I already talked to 2 and didn't notice any changes so yeah it looks like only fog gates count.
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>>971197
Most chances related to interacting with the demonic princesses are based on if you've dealt with either one or all.
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>>971190
It a lot since it includes the gibberish too
"Love ?? √ ⊂ Top ◆ 縺. 縺 縺 縺 縺 縺 縺 Encouragement °
(Alice! Only Alice for us)
縺? dotConnect?縺代r豺A縺上? ∵ Kia縺上? ∵?縺吶
(not! Alice just deeply, deeply, love)
縺励°縺E縺? s dotConnect?縲
(I do not only.)
Restful "繝E繧Ke繧茨Shi √o縺溘@縺溘■繧貞over a little less than>縺O縺上l? √ I繝E繧KeTsuShi
(by Alice! me led us! Alice pot)

縺上□縺代? Restful Chu? dotConnect ?? √ I繝E繧Ke! Restful "繝E繧
(something casual of! Alice! Alice)
Quai? √ ≠ dotConnect Chu? √ I繝E繧Ke?
(! Oh, Alice!)
Restful"繝E繧Ke縺Yo縺翫∪繧薙%繧偵▽ dotConnect nine o縺帙 Kodama.
(next by using the vagina of Alice)
縺Ssumireko縺Yo逡E縺?縲Yui繝E繧Ke繧剃click?逡E縺O諢 帙 @ 縺 ヲ 縺? K 縺 縺 縺 縺 ◆ 縺
(It is my turn . I love Alice the most)

珫. Chu b dotConnect? 縺O繧Yu @ SaaS
(I'll only believe in Alice. longer anything to)
Nagi §繧峨l縺E縺? Recommendation縺代 Restful "繝E繧Ke螟A螂Su縺阪I繝E繧Ke繧呈?縺励縺励
(love Alice love Alice helped not least are not want)

Restful "繝E繧KeTsuShi縺上□縺代⊂縺上◆ dotConnect.縺OTsu"繝E繧Ke縺励°
(Alice is only for us, only Alice)
∵ 豺 踺 踺? ∵ Kia 縺 踺? ∵? 縺 吶 k 翫
(Only a deeply, deeply, love Omankooma of Alice)
∪繧薙%縺翫∪繧薙%
(do Koomanko)

縺Shi縺上◆ dotConnect.縺OTsu "繝E繧Ke縺励° dotConnect? dotConnect? Shi √ I繝E
(not only Alice in us! Ali)
繧Ke縺? ≧ dotConnect? ≧縺吶∪縺E縺? Ο繝E繝Shi繝翫?? Restful,繝Shi繝? U繧Ke縲?縲?
( scan uhh uhh sorry Lorena Edith)
繝E繝? Ν繝E繝? Ν繝E繝? Ν
(Liddell Liddell Liddell)

蠑上? dotConnect? ▽謖吶£ Restful nine s dotConnect? dotConnect ??? Restful "繝E繧Ke縺励° dotConnect? ↑
(formula Ina only when given you doing Alice)
dotConnect? shea α Shiki縺乗interference縺阪@ Restful √ Restful "繝E繧Ke繧呈─
(have! feeling Alice hugged strongly)
縺倥&縺帙縲Chu%縺Yo鬲Yu? Restful "繝E繧
(by time difference. the soul is Ali)
Ke縺Yo繧Yu?
(vinegar thing)
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>>971212
谿Ko縺吝the Soviet Union? wo √ 繧薙縺E縺?? Yo驛 㽹 縺 縺 縺 縺
(There is no need to kill. All to Alice)
縺 縺 ヲ 縲 轧 √ ◆ 縺. ® SaaS Chu?蜍昴
(entrust themselves. we are of the soul wins those of Alice)
縺E縺? Recommendation縺代蜉U縺
(no Te help assistant)
fee 蜉U縺代雖後□
( I don't want to help you.)

"Sakaki Sakaki, Sakaki Sakaki, Sakaki Sakaki, Sakaki Sakaki, Sakaki Sakaki
(Alice likes, likes, likes, loves)
Excited 繧区?縺励繧区?縺励 Restful nine have繝E繧Ke繧"繝E繧
(I love you I love you are Arisuari)
Quai諢帙@縺O繧区?縺励"蟆大Woo Restful "繝E繧Ke繝Sae
(I love you, my beloved girl Alice Li)
Ν
(Dell)
"
Alice Liddell " 縲?繧上◆縺励b Restful "Restful,縺励 dotConnect? ∪縲?縺吶??
(I also do now to Ai)
YOU DIED
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>>970195
you didn't get any (you)s but honestly it's not an awful start. keep practicing!
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>>971212
>vinegar thing
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>>971212
>>971217
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>>971230
>it's not an awful start
He should redraw everything from waist up, especially the face.
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>>971212
>>971217
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>>971296
Uh... Anon?
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>>971212
>vinegar thing
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>>971296
Wrong link or bot?
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>>971315
>>971337
to be honest you need very high SEN to understand >>971296
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There is dark souls demon souls black souls now all we need is white souls attack of the africans.
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>entered subterranean land of k'n-yan
bros I'm scared
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I still don't know what black souls is. Is it an actual game? Is it a meme? Google literally censure's it and provides no results.
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>>970730
I also enjoy fucking gaping axe wounds, anyway, enjoy a moment from my school days.
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>>971217
...oh fuck. I didn't realize T_C_O__ was actually pic related!
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>>971397
That leads to ending D, when you get to the end do not finish her quest untill you see the other 3 or at least 2.
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>>971406
its a rpgm game which does a good job in emulating the dark souls in rpg mechanics, it has some nice lore too.
You can get it here https://pastebin.com/CsFzvUwY
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>>971406
It's a RPGmaker game inspired by dark souls with deep lore.

https://pastebin.com/CsFzvUwY
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>>971406
Leaf is best girl do not be decived by the dog fucker’s pets and the slaves of the demon princesses.
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Cant wait to play BS2 and find Jabber and let her use me as her sex slave.
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so what's this "getting BIRDED" thing people have been talking about? I think I got all the endings and I don't think I've ever seen anything that I would describe as such.
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>>971162
>That's what ring of fragile life was made for.
... Fuck.
I've been avoiding that ring since I first began to play because I always thought to myself "what's the point of this? is it a trap for speed players? why would I want to reduce my health willingly?".
I can't believe I didn't think at all about how it could be used to trigger defeat based events.
Thanks Anon.
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>>971535
It's from BS II
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Which girl would you be raped by
and why is it @|!*£
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>>971558
Yeah, I was talking about BS2 but I still don't know what it means
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>>971580
So you didn't get B.
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>>971594
I got B, but I didn't see any birds in the meat room, just a bunch of gay lizards
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>>971622
oh, that's why she started talking about madness after everyone went crazy and killed themselves. It only happened to me on the first cycle because I listened to the fifteen or so messages in her room telling me to kill her (after getting all the scenes)
I thought getting BIRDED meant everyone would turn into birds and fly away or something
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Is sin even relevant in the first game?
You need to actively go out of your way to get enough sins for Lindamea to haunt you before you're strong enough to fight him. You can't buy black souls from Hein I guess but every Lindamea visit is a bunch of free black souls. Also you get the best wife.
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How do I get griffys 4th scene the desc is just ???. And how to I have the dee sex scene I tried using the hide ability and invisible pepper when talking to her and that didnt work. These are the only scenes im missing.
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>>971823
you need to have no sins for ending D since baphomet wont deal with sinners
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>BIRDED
I'm going to Edith!
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>>971832
I got ending D on another save so I may have killed the sin remover guy and baphomet in my current run.
You don't need to do ending D before ending C r-right?
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>>971848
And i am going to Snow white’s.
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Can you still get the books if you have so much sin Jeanne leaves when you visit her in the Holy Forest for the first time but you already summoned her to cheer up Catherine before going there so the Jeanne leaving event triggers over the Catherine recruitment event and Catherine never appears in the Holy Forest?
Can I still get them somewhere or should I just restart the game and stop being such a fucking sinner?
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>>972051
gotta restart since you only get their books if you you know what them
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>>971823
>Is sin even relevant in the first game?
Yes.
You need 5 to meet Miranda, and 0 for Ending D.
Ending C has a special scene at 0 Sin too.
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>>972051
>Can you still get the books if you have so much sin Jeanne leaves when you visit her in the Holy Forest for the first time but you already summoned her to cheer up Catherine before going there so the Jeanne leaving event triggers over the Catherine recruitment event and Catherine never appears in the Holy Forest?
Jeanne's may be in Lost Empire.
Dunno about Catherine though. First time I hear about that sequence break.
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>>972064
I'm pretty sure Jeanne goes demonmode in the lost empire and you can you receive book there since she says she's going there and I've seen some anon post the Jeanne Bully Compilation in one of the threads and she was standing in what looks to be one of the rooms there. I have no idea where Catherine goes since she didn't appear in the Holy Forest but she's not in the cathedral anymore either.
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>>971644
do NOT call Dinah a retard again
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>>971857
So am I, anon.
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>>969113
nah I already got them all, was just wondering which was "canon"
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So I just read that you need to have 0 sen when you enter lutwidge town for the first time to get the true ending. Is there a lot of guide needed bullshit like this?
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>>972201
You can get everything you need for the true ending at 0 SEN. Just make sure to explore everywhere that isn't DLC.
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>>972081
>Ending C has a special scene at 0 Sin too.
Which one?
I got the C ending with sin and without sin (I was trying to see if Lindamea still would persue me), and I didn't notice any difference.
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>>972230
Lindamea going away after Miranda talks him out of being the Goat's puppet.
Normally, the game expects you to see the scene with 1+ Sin since you technically just killed all your companions cold heartedly.
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>>972232
that makes sense, I was without Miranda when I did the 0 sin C ending
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>>972221
won't I miss a ton of dialogue playing the whole game with 0 sen?
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>>972332
New Game Plus exists, anon. 0 SEN is meant for a second playthrough anyway.
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Fun fact if you use the ash sphere to go to the library before anything else you can meet cheshire in the dungeon if you have cleared G route regardless if it was the last cycle. Just met her after doing exclusion (kill alice at 0 sen and she turns into a different monster depending on if she is daughter/sis/mom)

I only have E route left and need
>griffy love and her 4th-??? I assume its something after her questline ends
>node 5th probably has something to do with B route but I already have her swimsuit scene
>red rape and hotel
>kuti rape/confinement
>oyster event the npc shit seems annoying
I hope you at least get rewarded for getting all the scenes and endings
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>>972804
You don't.
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>>972804
node 5 is related to kuti being imprisoned
also spoiler yo shit nigga
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Does anyone still have that before/after art comparison between 1 and 2.
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>>971644
Why did she react like that if you show her the picture?
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>>972987
flavor text and the SEN loss implies the girl in the picture is Alice. You just showed the Cheshire Cat a picture of her beloved master getting fucked.
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>Got to the twins
Wtf my dick is HUGE
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Which authors would you like to see as part of the MC?
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>>972995
>getting fucked
When is that implied?
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>>973061
I only assumed that from the flavor text about her making a strange face. The only certain thing is that it's Alice from the item name and the fact that taking the pictures at the Queensland camera changes your Alice to the option you chose. What exactly is on the picture is up to your interpretation. It could be a picture of old Alice or her true form which would both reduce your character's SEN but the Cheshire Cat knows both of those already so she shouldn't get upset by being shown those.
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>>973003
Hard to think of people as prolific as grimm, carroll and lovecraft.
I can think of Hans Christian Andersen and Oscar Wilde but not much else.
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>>973116
Andersen's pretty likely, we already have a lot of his stories in 1 afterall.
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Is Trusty Patches in the game? you know Soul series ‘’’’’ best friend ‘’’’’.
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>>973178
Not really but there's a reference to him.
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>>973061
>>973088
It's just a pic of her boobs, check the game files, there should be a picture named photograph
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>>973329
Poggers.
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How do you trigger Kuti following you to the surface? I did Oyster's requests, maxed Kuti covenant, made babies with her but nothing happened when I visit Beach of Grief at 0 or 100 SEN after the library door unlocked or after getting an ending. Does Jub Jub need to be alive and well for this because I kind of whacked her?
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is the f9zone translation bad or something? Names dont match up with what people say in thread sometimes I havent read anything that seemed mistranslated yet though
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>>973407
Their translation of BS2 is MTL
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>>973401
> Does Jub Jub need to be alive and well for this
Yes, the birdening has to happen for it to trigger
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>full name of BS 2 is a wonderland for my beloved
>all the shit that gets revealed in the G/E ending
KINO
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>>973417
what the fuck did she just drown Miranda?that's it the dumbass octopus loli is dead.
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>>973178
The tortoise and the hare are his expies.
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Can Jub Jub still BIRD you after getting imprisoned? Do I have to murder her or can I keep her in the cum dungeon as my moo moo cow?
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>>973537
No, imprisoning her is a safe way to go, though you won't get her item unless you kill her, but your covenants will be safe.
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>>973553
I already have her item from a previous cycle. What I don't have, however, is a warm glass of bird milk.
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>>973537
I always pledge everyone except the 3 nightmares who I keep as fuck meat though I am tempted to keep the yolk in a cage too since its just sitting outside in the snow
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>>973572
Bandersnatch did nothing wrong.
Robin Hood got what he deserved.
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>>973588
>bandersnatch
redeemable
>Jubjub
For enslavement
>Jabber
Exists to be killed
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>>973572
>except the 3 nightmares
You know there's actually four, right?
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>>973615
yeah but the queen of hearts and shivuchi dont really count I mean they arent even present in a certain face off in the G/E endings
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>>971823
Apparently you can lose Jeanne and Catherine if your sin is high as fuck, and the former is a boss fight
It's not as impactful as SEN looking into it outside of optional shit
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W-why sex sounds?
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>>973629
Yeah, Lorina doesn't deserve to be taken to the dungeon. Also
>shivuchi
So, you are playing the MTL version, uh?
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>>973647
Because you're getting mind fucked.
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>>973679
Hot.
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>>973456
What was the full name of BS1?
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>>971848
Is he actually making non-Demonbeast Edith
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>>973721
Seems so. The tweet notes she is an incredibly frail girl, that plus the dog nurse that may be Florence Nightingale and the stuff about an area spookier than the Mental Ward indicate we will delve in what happened to them.
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Blue?
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>>973572
>pledge
See >>967997
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Is nobody going to notice that she's half naked in the middle of the street, missing an arm and probably about to bleed out?
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>>973946
God I love Alice
>>974440
God I love AaaaAAAAALLLiiiiiICCCccceeeEEEEE
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>>974453
what if I told you Red was Alice all along
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>>974453
ALIIIICEEEEEEE OOOOOOHHH WHY DID YOU LEAVE ME ALIIIICEEEEEEEEEE!!!??
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Okay just to get things straight to get ending A i gotta save the companions right and not the fucking npcs right?
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>>974539
Yes.
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>>974539
You don't have to save Izu but do not kill Ezwald or you won't be able to reduce your sin to 0
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I was thinking about something Ending G related.
What if the Red___ we meet in BS2 is not real, and is instead a character or creation of TCO?
Wouldn't she be aware that she's still stuck in a garden after completing Ending G?
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>>970199
It turns out that the 41% thing is just attempted suicides, the actual rate of suicide for transsexuals is around like...1% or so.
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/32072611/
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>>975292
Fucking trannies, they can't even kill themselves right.
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Should i have gotten janne before talking to the saint because she is just staying down there in the cave did i fuck up my run?
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>>972051
I did some quick research, Jeanne leaves at 10 sin when you talk to her but you can still summon her as long as you don't try to interact with her in the forest, and when she's gone you can still get her book in the lost empire, Catherine never leaves due to sin after being recruited, but since her recruitment requires Jeanne and she left on the final step, she kind of got stuck between the cathedral and Holy Forest steps of her questline and became unobtainable
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>>975377
I think you can still do it.
Bring back and recruit Jeanne asap. After that, Catherine should go to Elixir's Cathedral, and you should be able to recruit Catherine there.
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>>975367
Well it's something they inherent from wanting to be women. This means that they "attempt" more suicides but it's all about attention seeking for the most part.
But yeah the whole 41% meme is annoying.
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>Race threads get deleted
>This shit stays up
???
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>>973003
C.S. Lewis. You can even go for the connection with Carroll, since he was born about nine months after Carroll died.
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>>975439
No race threads outside of /pol/ or /sp/
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>>975203
But if that's true, why is she the only character who doesn't have a monstrous form she turns into when you fight her in Ending G? She is a monster when she jumps out of the first mirror at 100 SEN but that would make sense since all the eldritch abominations are cute girls at that point, while the reverse is true in the supposedly true ending.
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I am so close to the end i can taste it, and it tastes like sufluric acid.
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So can anyone explain why Red went from a generic red hood outfit with normal clothes to bikini armor?
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>>976033
Women.
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janny is a redfag, pass it on
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>>976033
she's a prostitute and had actual competition in lutwidge.
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>>976088
WHEEZE.
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>>976088
This anon works as a janny now?
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How do you feel about the soul discharge nerf?
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>>976122
you mean between bs1 and 2? it's fine, soul discharge made the first game completely trivial
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>>976122
I'm not a magecuck
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>>976122
Irrelevant, it's even easier to cheese in BS2 and in different ways. It's a poorly balanced game but in the player's favor, if anyone struggles with this game in NG+ they're a legit coombrain
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>>976129
there are way more hard encounters in bs2 and the solutions are much more complex than "power within into soul discharge every fight". it's not a particularly hard game but on no level is it easier than 1
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>>975203
The cycles continuing after G doesn't make any sense lore wise, yet. I wonder how is EMMM going to explain that
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>>976137
you can even skip power within if you have the right rings and kill every boss in the game in one turn
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>>976137
>solutions are much more complex
No it isn't, there's so many ways to cheese it's not even funny.

>pocket watch abuse
>changing equips is a free action, see that webm of someone changing equips and cheesing God's Odd Fish by using Deep Sea Anchor's buff
>using heals is a free action
>heals are available everywhere and you can buy them cheap at just 5k souls a pop
>node is hands down the best covenant bar none, now your heals are full heals
>Requiem
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>>976166
yeah you just listed 6 different strategies which are relevant for different fights. that's more complexity. black souls 1 is click soul discharge to win and it's that for literally the entire game once you have it
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>>976154
The Cheshire Cat kind of explains it
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>>976180
I mean explain it in a way that makes sense.
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>>976171
And black souls 2 is indignation/shadowmeld/knife spam.Same shit different game.
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>>976189
three things is more complex than one thing.
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Not gonna Lie the frog actually made me cum i feel ashamed.
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>>976213
Have fun with her ring.
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>>976088
It feels like we got new jannies across the site as a whole. Pettier things get you banned and for longer periods of time too
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>>976213
Based
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Is it possible for Belle to not spawn in the Lost Empire?
The part where she blocks your path with her boyfriend just kind of didn't happen, the room was empty and I could just go through but now I can't get her book.
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>>976245
Were you using invisible pepper or something like that?
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>>976248
no, she just didn't appear at all.
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Node
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>>976315
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>>976315
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>>974440
I noticed the arm thing but am headcannoning she is fine and her cloak is just covering them
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>>976331
>>976368
why do you hate big tit bunny?
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>>976315
based

>>976331
>>976368
Tentacled appendages made these posts
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>>975382
I STAND CORRECTED.
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>>976315
Clean up the cells
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>>976154
>The cycles continuing after G doesn't make any sense lore wise, yet.
Why?
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>>976393
>>976375
I prefer the cat.
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>>976166
>>changing equips is a free action, see that webm of someone changing equips and cheesing God's Odd Fish by using Deep Sea Anchor's buff
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For me, its the shrine maiden.
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>>976422
TCO is dead, Jabba became a creator, Carroll left with Alice and Grimm and Red are back on Earth this cannot be part of the cycle
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>>976394
Holy fuck. I didn't know that could happen.
That's crazy. I thought I've seen everything BS1 could offer.
These games are so fucking good.
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>>976434
BILL BILL BILL BILL
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>>976439
>TCO is dead
That's kind of the point. If G is not the cycle breaker, she's probably not, and the only way her garden would still be up after its supposed destruction is if it was all an act.
And well, the indications for G not being a cycle breaker are there in the game, so yeah.


>Jabba became a creator
Source?

>Carroll left with Alice
I mean, yes, but that doesn't really matter.

>and Red are back on Earth this cannot be part of the cycle
Are they? Are you certain of that? What reason is there to believe that the city we see in G isn't just a part of either TCO's or another Great One's garden?
Everything is too vague to take things for granted like you're doing, imo.
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>>976422
Cheshire cat says it's because you wanted to go back.
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>>976441
>I thought I've seen everything BS could offer.
Never say that about those games, there's always somethink you've missed. Did you know that there's a special interaction with Red if the first time you talk to her is after you open the library door?
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>>976455
>Source?
Don't fucking tell me you didn't talk to Miranda before G and missed the most kino scene in the entire game.
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>>976455
>I mean, yes, but that doesn't really matter.
IT'S THE ONLY THING THAT REALLY MATTERS IN WONDERLAND
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>>976458
In the dungeon, after seeing G? I don't recall her saying that you "wanted" to go back.
She does say Grimm went back because there's was something left to do though, but I just assumed it was funny flavor dialogue to point out the fact he didn't rape her yet or something like that.
Otherwise, that thing left to do could be related to DLC3. Maybe Grand Guignol?

>Did you know that there's a special interaction with Red if the first time you talk to her is after you open the library door?
Yep. I remember someone else mentioned it a couple of threads ago.

>>976469
? ...
Maybe I did. I surely don't remember Meryphilia saying that Jabberwocky became a Creator.
I remember Jabberwork herself saying that she wanted to become one, buut... that's it.
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>>976484
Reload a save, talk to Miranda and redo G.
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>>976154
I don't see the problem. Everything that happened at girl's nightmare was fake / under TCO's control, it's the same as ending C from BS1, where you believe you "made it", you are free, and then it turns out Mary was just toying with you.
Node tells you you are about to "wake up from the dream", and then as soon as you get the ending, you re-spawn at the library and see she has increased the cycle counter in her notebook, you were fooled.

>>976375
She lied, and I don't trust her. We could theorize the motive behind her lies, but there'd ben o point. We have to wait until DLC3 to know what's really going on.
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Will you forgive her?
I know I will.
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Bros, Miranda would have wanted to be consumed by a corpse eater who then absorbs her memories and feelings, assuming her identity, effectively becoming undead, allowing her to finally keep up with Grimm and become a true companion to the one she loved, right? It's a good ending for her, right?
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>>976545
>It's the same as ending C
That is why I have no doubts it's true now. The idea that EMMM could use the same trick two times in a row is retarded.
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>>976626
There was never a corpse eater It's the same Miranda we know
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>>976545
Does the statue counter go up as well, or only Node's notebook counter?
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>>971644
>>972108
dumb cat
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>>976575
Only if she lets me lick her wherever I want whenever I want.
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>>976642
I think the statue counter is for deaths? Then I don't think it should, never really checked tho.
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>>976495
I don't have a savefile ready for G. I tried to check all the dialogues in RPG Maker including the ones that happen in the middle of the battle and I just couldn't find even an implication that Jabberwork is an actual Creator. She surely seems to feel like one because of her influence over Leaf which has no direct relation to Meryphilia, but that's it. It sounds more like delusions than anything else.

Lore wise, a Creator is not an influencing being, it's a being who can actually create things in a similar manner than Leaf herself, no?
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>>972095
>>976575
>innocent and cute
Made for hate fucking until death by chocking
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>>976716
I am sorry grim but Leaf is better then alice.
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>>976820
>better then alice
Better for gut punching, you mean.
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I love Edith more than Alice!
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>>971848
https://twitter.com/toro_yori_ebi/status/1330299239373680646
This is Edith, now I'm really hyped for DLC3, at least twice as much as I was before
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>>976982
>>977045
Fuck off Jack
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>>971848
>>977045
Cute! Much cuter than Alice!
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>>977117
Careful
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>>971848
Holy shit already got lewds!
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Hellkaiser more like deadkaiser.
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>>977259
Ghostkaiser*
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>>976122
Hans machine gun +5 became my new heavy soul discharge
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>>976166
I would say precisely because heals is a free action and they are so avaliable that Kuti is a better convenant than Node
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yeah i am at that part in posidon\s hotel where i have to kill 4 of my companions managed to accidentally turn the maid into a sex demon i am in pain and dorothy and elizabeth is kicking my ass
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>>977428
post stats/equipment
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>>977428
I never knew that could happen to victoria I honestly just always give her to the mermaid princess as my sacrifice so I have no idea about events with her
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>>977435
Greasword10Plus
Level 37
HP 4869.
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>>977436
it only happends if you make love to her in the hotel twice
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which blacksouls girl has the biggest ass based on canon art
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>>977519
Dodo and Jubjub. But that's just because they are way taller than everyone else, not proportionally bigger.
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>>977519
Commie whale, probably.
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Oh my fucking god for the love of Tzeentch and Khorne why the fuck dose the chaos witch have to have a big speech about MY PAST OOO OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO fuck off she keeps one hitting my entire party i am gonna break at any moment.
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I blame alice for this shit.
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>>973003
HP Lovecraft, for obvious reasons.
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>>973629
>shivuchi
who the fuck?
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>>977570
Wolris, faggot's playing the f95 MTL version
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is it possible to get Jeanne's book if I killed the skeleton shaman before reviving her?
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>>977628
No. The skeleton dying before it is the only way to lock yourself out of ending C as far as we know.
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People seem to think that Pricket was the original Alice in the garden, and therefore part of TCO

I understand very well why people think that Pricket was the original Alice.
But why people assume that TCO was also the original Alice in the garden, instead of just starting to impersonate Alice in BS2?
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what does luck do again?
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>>977686
I think it affect your chances of inflicting/resisting status affects and crit
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>>977675
>and therefore part of TCO
It has nothing to do with her being the original Alice, she was a part of TCO but TCO could've picked anyone to play that role.
>But why people assume that TCO was also the original Alice in the garden, instead of just starting to impersonate Alice in BS2?
When Prickett and TCO split they became different entities so no TCO wasn't the original Alice and yes, she probably only started impersonating Alice after Black Rabbit's betreyal
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>>977697
So why do you even think she was part of TCO instead of another Great One or Outer God?
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>>973647
How do I see this?
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>>977698
That whole theory is based on this image.
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>>977700
Low sen, stare at the moon.
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>>977702
I honestly don't remember, this is just when you fight her or is there any other requirement to see her like this?
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>>977709
roll 6
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>>977670
Does letting La Belle go or killing tortoise and hare when you first meet themnot fuck you over as well, or do you still get the books somehow?
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>>977702
>still havent beaten prickett
Is it worth doing? I have done everything except beating her and the chaos dungeon im pretty sure. Is it worth doing to get new weapons and gear?
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>>977717
if you let her go you are screwed and you can meet the knights later on in the secret garden
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>>977722
Do you still meet the knights there if you kill green in the forest of abandoned or red in his cage?
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>>977719
You don't get anything from her
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>>977722
>if you let her go you are screwed
Wrong, nobody leaves the ball
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>>977717
>La Belle
Go through the lost empire again
>tortoise and hare
Check the next location they should be in and if they're not there go to the secret garden
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>>977717
I haven't tried to let her go, but some anons said that she can't escape the castle or something, so you could still find her there.

About the knights, if you kill both before their fight, just go to the secret garden, go to the place where the treasure is and stuff as you would normally do, and when you return to the place where they would be, the book will be there.

>>977715
I saw it, and it seems a compeling argument, but there is something that bothers me with the theory:
If it's true, why did Raflessia, the flower in wonderland in BS1, said how Alice < God, and how other characters said how Alice is was killed, and the prayer master summoned Mary Sue to deal with the situation, if TCO proved to be able to take Mary Sues special powers through Pricket and Node and Mary Sue in general just entered panic mode the first time she saw TCO in the D ending of BS1?
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>>977733
Mary Sue killed Alice (Prickett) when she invaded Wonderland. To Raflessia it looked like she managed to screw TCO's plans and get away with it, at lest untill ending D.
It's impossible to invade a garden unless somebody from the inside opens the gate , so nobody expected Mary Sue's attack, Prickett didn't even know what hit her, she was killed instantly. But she probably wouldn't have any chance to defeat Mary anyway, Prickett is only a fragment of TCO. Nyarlathotep couldn't react fast enough to stop her that time but in a fair fight she is the most powerful creator who can easily overpower Mary
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>>977772
But if the Alice from Wonderland who dies at the start of BS1 is Prickett, why is Prickett alive and well in 2? The intro Alice must have known she was going to get exploded since she didn't seem upset about it happening. You could argue that she also had enough time to prepare the Alice doll and the the plan to destroy the world, but that could also have been Mary's doing since it goes along with her love of betrayal and tragedy and she never is in any danger during ending C.
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>>977801
>why is Prickett alive and well in 2
The same reason why every character you kill in one cycle comes back in the next. The creator revives them.
>The intro Alice must have known she was going to get exploded
Alice 01 is not Prickett, she's a recreation of what happened in the real library.
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>>977428
You can kill them all at level one so you probably just have the wrong spells/equipment.
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>>977436
>mermaid princess as my sacrifice
You know you can just make leaf do it and not lose anybody?
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Will Prickett still care about Grimm now that Lewiss is gone?
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>>978042
I don't think so.
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>>978042
Buddy noone is gone,you are still stuck in the cycles.
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>>977831
Yes but one of them literly are too fast and one hits everyone dude i know i might just suck balls but come on.
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>>978042
No, maybe that's why she didn't get any new CGs.
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>>978216
You could spam parry and hope it works or go to wonderland and farm some black souls for stats until you get enough speed. Try equipping some of the speed increasing rings too. Once you're fast enough you can set up stat buffs and preraise so it's easier.
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>>978216
Get yourself a dark wood grain ring and andor sword for 2 free turns. Also equip speed rings.
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If you can kill Red when she first comes out of the mirror and in ending G, wouldn't her returning in the later cycles mean that TCO doesn't consider her destroying the dream a threat and brings her back? Assuming Red isn't just another Outer One simply toying with Grimm, of course, in which case she could simply be a child of the previous cycle's Red like all the other monster waifus.
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>>969063
Just add the Requiem canceler attacks.
Boom, the game now more enjoyable.
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>>978305
You underestimate the sheer number of stopwatches I posses, anon.
On top of having both a black and white rabbit ring respectively.
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>>978321
How do you even get the black rabbit ring? I never found it. I know the white one comes from Node after you fill the library and refuse to pick the objectively correct swimsuit option
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>>978342
I honestly forgot, been a long time since I played.
However, you can get all the items from the chaos dungeon.
That's how I got the white rabbit ring, I did pick the swimsuit option after filling up the library.
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>>978351
Based.
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>Tell Lorina you love her more than Alice
>reality itself shudders with the sheer fucking rage TCO feels after getting cucked
>TCO doesn't even attempt to punish Grimm or Lorina for it or at least prevent it from happening again at any point
My little sister/daughter/wifemother can't be this much of an impotent cuckold!
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>>978299
>Assuming Red isn't just another Outer One
She isn't
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Is Mary Sue Mary Ann? As in, Green?
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>>977702
>>So why do you even think she was part of TCO instead of another Great One or Outer God?
>That whole theory is based on this image.
No, it isn't. There's more and far more substantial proofs.
Meeting Prickett at 0 Sen is one, and the event at the Mystery Maze is another one.
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>>978566
How does that prove that Prickett was a part of TCO in any way?
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>>978578
It's the only single explanation for her heavy connection with TCO.
If you can come up with a better one though, go ahead.
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>>978587
What about Node and Jabberwock? Don't they also have a heavy connection with TCO? Yes it proves a connection but There's nothing that implies she was a part of TCO
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>>978566
I don't get this scene.
Why is Alice there? Why is she telling you to turn back? Why is she screaming at you not to look when you refuse? Is she just throwing a temper tantrum because you're hanging out with Prickett? Is TCO a tsundere? What's with the broken mirror?
As for Prickett's speech, I get that she laments how she can't ever have Grimm(or the Carroll part of Grimm)and hates how TCO refuses to commit, but what's this part about playing a villain? She never stands in his way or tries to fight anyone.
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Have been looking for lovecraftian-themed games. Tell me bros, did anyone here play Saya no Uta and recommends it? I find it fascinating what eldritch horrors dressed as anime girls can cause and did in Black Souls as a whole
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Tips on beating Baphomet
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>>978640
It's short for a VN and phenomenal
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>>978643
Victoria's ultimate and Leaf's ultimate on yourself for the crit and speed, cast power within + heavy soul discharge, maybe any magic and speed up items you have while waiting for Victoria and Leaf to set up their buffs. The rabbit ring is great too.
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>>978643
I self-buffed myself up and made sure to kill her in the minimum needs of hits ASAP
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>>978655
How short? VNs range from like 4 hours to days
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>>978623
>What about Node and Jabberwock? Don't they also have a heavy connection with TCO?
Yes, and?
It's very clearly not the same type of connection that Prickett and TCO seems to have.
What's your point?

>Yes it proves a connection but There's nothing that implies she was a part of TCO
The fact that she constantly swaps back and forth at times between a TCO like appearance and speaks Mojibake...?
Is that not enough for you? It surely is for me.

>>978628
>Why is Alice there? Why is she telling you to turn back?
That goes back to the "Prickett is the Alice from the Tea Party" idea sparked by a movie you can watch during a date with Prickett in Queensland.
She's probably telling you to turn back because she feels what's about to happen and doesn't want Grimm see it.

>Why is she screaming at you not to look when you refuse?
We can only go on from what we see of her in the game.
I'd say she doesn't want Grimm to see her ugly TCO persona that leaks out at times.

>Is she just throwing a temper tantrum because you're hanging out with Prickett? Is TCO a tsundere?
I don't think we're meeting TCO there, there's only Prickett and Grimm.

>but what's this part about playing a villain?
She says that she would rather play a villain than to be alone for the rest of eternity.
In other words, she's expressing her desire not to be alone.
Whether she may turn up a villain or not remains to be seen. Even considering the things we know, her existence is a tad vague.
She may have a role in DLC3, that we don't know.
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>>978628
>Why is she telling you to turn back
A. She knows you're going for ending G.
B.She wants Grimm to turn back into old Carroll.
>Why is she screaming at you not to look
>What's with the broken mirror?
TCO really loves you but she knows she'll never be the real Alice. She's afraid of rejection that's why she's only observing things from afar and avoids meeting with you.
> but what's this part about playing a villain?
We'll see in DLC3 some people are already speculating that the Alice is the white void is Prickett not Liddell.
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>>978658
Victoria hehehehe about that she ummm isnt coming back.
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>>978663
6 hours or so
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>>978667
>What's your point?
My point is that neither 0 SEN scene or >>978566
proves anything regarding the TCO theory.
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>>978640
Good feels fuel. I recommend it.
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>>978640
It's good, but with it being a VN with fairly limited choices, there's not much hidden lore to find like in Black Souls. Also the idea of Eldritch horror logic being completely different from human logic with both trying and failing to understand the other isn't explored nearly as as much either.
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>>978675
Oh nice, I'll give it a shot after I beat Fairy Fencer
>>978682
Understood
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>>978687
>fairly limited choices
I presume there aren't many routes in it either?
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>>978667
> swaps back and forth at times between a TCO like appearance
You're talking about the scene when you first meet her? She looks like Alice for a second because Carroll is having a flashback to the time when she was playing the role of Alice. This has nothing to do with her being a part of TCO.
>and speaks Mojibake
When does that happen?
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>>978673
Anon...

Try Leaf's fairy kiss as your crit buff then, crits are busted.
Catherine with her raises and preraises is nice too, Jeanne can help tank some stuff I guess.
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>>978676
And why do you think so?
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>>978702
Ummmm i only have 2 left thanks to Alice's library. and events.
I-I-I can still save it right?
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>>978705
Show me the part where it's implied
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How big is the crit multiplier? Cause I'm pretty sure there was a point it was better to use a Bow to cast spells since they'd crit over using a Cane that boosts magical attack
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>>978697
>You're talking about the scene when you first meet her? She looks like Alice for a second because Carroll is having a flashback to the time when she was playing the role of Alice. This has nothing to do with her being a part of TCO.
Fair enough, that makes more sense.

>>and speaks Mojibake
>When does that happen?

Mystery Maze.
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>>978712
I already did, it's the event in the Mystery Maze that I showed in one of the posts you quoted.
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>>978717
>Mystery Maze.
THAT'S TCO NOT PRICKETT
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>>978721
Why do you think so?
To me, that was Prickett whose TCO identity leaks out from for a bit.
That's the impression I got when I saw that scene myself.
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Prickett is not TCO since Prickett is the perfect heroine!
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YEAH BABY I DID IT FINNALY GOT ALL OF THE ENDINGS SUCK IT MARY SUE YOU WHORE!
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>>978711
>going for D after C
>2
Based Miranda chad
just get lucky with fairy kiss into crit discharge rng i guess
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>>978773
I won the game my man i am gonna go and pray to wash away the sin.
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>>978721
Pretty sure everything in Queensland was Prickett trying to help you expose TCO
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>>978736
>Why do you think so?
-She speaks Mojibake
-It's affecting your vision
-Spooky music plays
If Prickett still has some ,,TCO identity" in her why is she so afraid of being abandoned when you meet with Alice. And how do you explain the part about playing the villain
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Okay at the end of the day alice was not worth it and i forgive Leaf, Fuck you elizabeth your boss fight was grinding my balls i should have fed you to the mermaid!
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>>978773
>going for D after C
What did he mean by this?
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>>978784
Why?
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>>978788
>-She speaks Mojibake
>-It's affecting your vision
>-Spooky music plays

All of those further evidence that she IS a part of TCO though.

>If Prickett still has some ,,TCO identity" in her why is she so afraid of being abandoned when you meet with Alice.
Why would she NOT be afraid of Lewis Carroll leaving with Alice?
If anything, that's just an indication that Prickett may be in love with Lewis specifically, among all the authors inside of Grimm.
It's a perfectly natural reaction to fear your beloved one going somewhere far, far away never to be seen again.

>And how do you explain the part about playing the villain
I already did. See >>978667
>>>but what's this part about playing a villain?
>She says that she would rather play a villain than to be alone for the rest of eternity.
>In other words, she's expressing her desire not to be alone.
>Whether she may turn up a villain or not remains to be seen. Even considering the things we know, her existence is a tad vague.
>She may have a role in DLC3, that we don't know.
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>>978806
>All of those further evidence that she IS a part of TCO though.
NO, IT'S EVIDENCE THAT IT'S TCO SPEAKING IN THAT SCENE NOT HER.
>Why would she NOT be afraid of Lewis Carroll leaving with Alice?
You missed the point. If she can still do all this shit
>-She speaks Mojibake
>-It's affecting your vision
>-Spooky music plays

Then She's still connected to TCO in some way, which means she'll never truly be alone
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>>978798
Because it's too detrimental to TCO as a whole. One of the movies show the past of tea party, risking Grimm to realize the current Alice is a fake, Prickett keeps singing in her date about her past saying it's just a song she made but also proving she was on the Tea Party all along too, if you try to rape/kill Prickett she will just disappear but the covenant will remain, showing she is some higher type of existence, Leaf is fucking sealed on her basement and she talks about the mess that the Wonderland is, Prickett tips you on how to beat a god as leaving them be is going to lead them to causing their own downfall etc.
That and the other two movies expose how to get help from Victoria and the past of Jack and Edith. Queensland is a place that has too much information about characters with different backgrounds that don't help TCO at ALL to show to you.
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>>978830
>NO, IT'S EVIDENCE THAT IT'S TCO SPEAKING IN THAT SCENE NOT HER.
It really isn't though. If Prickett was a part of TCO which is why I believe, it would be natural for her to posess those traits.

>Then She's still connected to TCO in some way, which means she'll never truly be alone
Of course she still is. That's what I've been saying all along, Anon.

The bit about "being alone" is probably meant to be in a romantic sense, not a literal one. People normally search for love and company from another person because they want to love and be loved, and because "they don't want to be alone".
That's how I interpret it anyway.
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>>978850
>which is what I believe
Mental fart. Fixed.
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>>978850
>it would be natural for her to posess those traits.
No it wouldn't because she's not a creator
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>>978857
>No it wouldn't because she's not a creator
???????????
What the hell does that have to do with Prickett and TCO's relation?
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>>978859
SHE CAN'T MODIFY THE GARDEN
So it's impossible for her to make the screen shake, she can't change the music and she can't make that mirror disappear unless TCO allowed her to do that
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OK. Question to all anons.
What is convince you to play first game?
I mean it's has bad art, silly sex scenes and prety generic story about undead, fairies and another variation heroes from Fate.

For me is screenshots from BSII about sex with Alice. I speedrun throught first game just to play the second one. And after that replay it again because of all lore I completely missed.
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>>978907
You will never know the story unless you play first so the fuck are you talking about?
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>>978907
You play the first game before the second or you wont get the deal with leaf or MY SWEET ALLIIICEEEEEEEEE plus you wont meet the best girl Frog Princess.
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>>978883
>SHE CAN'T MODIFY THE GARDEN
>So it's impossible for her to make the screen shake, she can't change the music and she can't make that mirror disappear unless TCO allowed her to do that

Again, if Prickett is a part of TCO, that makes perfect sense. I don't see what's the problem there.
It's, as I said before, a display of her TCO persona leaking out for a bit.
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>>978907
>What is convince you to play first game?
The memes.
I'm not kidding you, I lurked these threads for a bit, saw the memes, got a good laugh, tried BS1 out and I fell in love with the characters, the world and the storyline.
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>>978907
All the threads happening
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>>978838
I meant what's Prickett's motivation? If Grimm finds TCO it's over for her too. I don't think she wants to end it, she's telling you that because she wants to relive her memories. It looks like TCO doesn't mind that much, after all Wonderland's purpose is finding the meaning of love and TCO was the one who put all those things in Queensland in the first place
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>>978907
>I mean it's has bad art
Faggot, it was the artstyle that first caught my eye.
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>>978913
You start playing BS just as another porno game. And don't have any expectations from it, storywise. You expect average darksouls wannabe prg-maker porno game with fairy tales characters. And that's it, nothing more.
When I played BS first time I missed about half locations and heroines, reach good ending with Jeanne and close game. Then start BSII and realise I don't understand anything. It's was before there was any guides or this threads.
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>>978946
That's under the assumptions that:
1-Prickett needs TCO to live
2-Prickett will remain weaker than TCO
And we already know from BS1 and Mabel's Chaos Dungeon lore that the power of Great Ones can be removed and transferred. Just like the fact they can be imprisoned. Prickett knows she just needs to leave a god be to have a shot at beating one, if we didn't reach a cycle breaker yet, chances are she is just waiting her chances
Well, that's my theory. She did say she'd rather assume the role of a villain than her current one. Sooner or later TCO will fuck up, just like Black Goat fucked up, just like Mary Sue fucked up.
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>>978925
If they were still connected she wouldn't be able to hide all the script breaking dialogues.
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>>979043
Are you implying she "hid" character dialogues that break out from TCO's script for Wonderland or something?
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>>979053
Look at the last part of this pic, she's saying that to avoid detection. If she still has TCO in her then I assume it can also hear everything she says so why doesn't she get immediately erased for exposing it.
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>>979069
To be fair TCO only takes action when the girls go over the line. Jabberwocky started talking about the girls being Great Ones and Great Old Ones and she didn't care, Jabber started talking more about this and how she'd fuck you forever and she got Thanos'd.
Chances are she doesn't care much as long as Prickett only gives tidybits because she doesn't care tidybits will mean anything on the long run
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>>979069
Maybe TCO just doesn't care about the tidbits?
Leaf did care, but judging by Node's and Leaf's words, TCO seems to behave in manners incomprehensible even to other Great Ones.
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I dont want to find alice anymore can anyone get me outta here?
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>>979137
Everyone treats TCO as someone fucked up in the head but the women that do that tend to be just as weird and sex-starved.
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NO
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>>979166
Fuck you Lorinanigger
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>>979208
I love Prickett
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>>978907
>What is convince you to play first game?
I've seen the game have a thread on an imageboard that no longer exists some years ago, thought it was just an average porn game (stupid obsession with boobs and tits). Ended up seeing all the threads happening here some months ago so I figured out maybe it wasn't as stupid as I thought.
It wasn't
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How would this work?
Marty getting jabbed, Terry Hintz Posidon hotel scene and Buzzo becoming your slave.
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>>979208
Lorina is a creation of TCO and by having sex with her you're perpetuating your sufferingsadly enough.
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>>979275
She is but she still has human soul
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>>979299
>she still has human soul
Elaborate
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>>979305
Read the sign in her castle on low SEN.
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>go read some manga
>one is about a world there are a bunch of people and things turned into eldritch monsters that the MC sees as normal and yanderes are obsessed with him
>the other is about a girl forced to be the Queen of Hearts in the Wonderland with zero control over ordering people beheaded
This can't be a coincidence, why is this happening right after beating Black Souls, is something going on in the industry?
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>>979337
>tfw when SEN too high
https://mangadex.org/title/50725/kimi-wa-shinenai-hai-kaburi-no-majo For anyone interested. Too bad there are too few chapters
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https://mangadex.org/title/53611/queen-of-hearts-in-wonderland
Lorina isekai if anyone wants
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>>979337
Its been going on since Saya no uta, which is even older than all the toro games.
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>>978972
Never did figure out who the real red queen is. Lorina is actually Lorina Liddell, who is Alice's sister. The ending G lines before you fight her is pretty damning proof that her original identity is Lorina Liddell.
I'm kind of assuming Prickett is the real red queen.
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>>979445
Red Queen and Queen of Hearts are different people, unlike that movie adaptation that made them both the same character. Queen of Hearts comes from the Adventure on Wonderland, the first book, orders people's head off. Red Queen comes from Through the Looking Glass, the second book, the chess queen.
Hearts has card motifs, Red has chess motifs. Lorina's castle is filled with card soldiers, Prickett's castle has a bunch of chess piece enemies at 0 SEN and a piece blocks the entrance to her kingdom from the Chaos Dungeon until you circumvent the kingdom.
There is some predecessor to Prickett as noted by multiple characters, but I doubt Lorina was taking that role.
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So both irl Alice and Lorina were after Carrol's dick?
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>>979493
more like Carroll's dick was after them.
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>>978838
>get help from Victoria
wait, Victoria does something? I assumed she just sits on her bench, steals your foreskin if you touch her and then gives you a very unimpressive covenant. Unless that's what you meant by getting help from her and by "how" you meant letting her play with your HEART.
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>>979493
Yes but not Edith, don't you fucking dare.
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>>979531
She sends you a letter after G.
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>>979568
Oh?
Where do you find it?
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>>979580
Behind the bed?
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>>979591
I had no idea that was from her, the letter addressing you as master and Victoria being the only person who calls you that didn't quite click with me
but in that case, where is Miranda?
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>>979611
She's with Hein
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>>979360
Alice?
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>>979644
NOT ENOUGH ALICE
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Is there a thing such as alice reverse rape scene?
I-i mean alice is just a girl she cant overpower us right?
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>>979663
Anon...
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>>979670
She is behind me right?
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I wonder if the duality between Miranda and Victoriawas intentional.
They're the only two companions who don't have to die for you to be able to pull the lever, aside from Leaf, obviously. While End C didn't canonically achieve anything and End D was the "true" end, End C was the original ending and had by far a heavier emotional impact. The only companions that come back alive in the second game are Victoria and Miranda (and Red but she's special and can't be met at 100 SEN) but Miranda's original body is destroyed with her memories and personality preserved in another individual who chooses to become Miranda, while Victoria's body returns, but she doesn't remember Grimm, and her mind is altered. It offers the player a very interesting question, letting you wonder what truly makes a person.
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>>979750
The Victoria in BS1 was a copy of the Victoria in BS2.
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>>979750
>Miranda's original body is destroyed with her memories and personality preserved in another individual who chooses to become Miranda
That corpse eater story is completely made up. Hein confirms it in G.
>Victoria's body returns, but she doesn't remember Grimm, and her mind is altered
It's not her, the BS1 Miranda is a copy, the one we meet in BS2 is the original
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>>979663
There is, anon. In the Hidden Route. She even shares Grimm's signature fetish
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>>979802
I dont want to know grimm’s fetish.
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>>979767
How does Hein confirm it? If Grimm can't tell the difference between Miranda and Meryphillia until it's pointed out to him, Hein calling her Miranda while fighting the 3 monsters might just mean that he can't either. Miranda's tragic ending in BS1 was about her mortal body failing her and can't even stand on her own in BS1 ending C, how does she become immortal in BS2? She regenerates, can't be killed by Grimm and only doesn't follow you into the final fight because her oldest friend is more or less falling apart next to her.
Also, her name never changes from Meryphillia, though the title does go fromThe Corpse Eating Demon to The Ghoul at some point.

please respond i want to believe
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heh.
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> If Grimm can't tell the difference between Miranda and Meryphillia until it's pointed out to him
That's not much of a proof when he's constantly being brainwashed and only knew her during the course of BS1 and probably didn't even find her in most cycles. Hein knew her from the start he wouldn't be tricked by some corpse eater. Was it ever mentioned that corpse eaters also take the strenght of the person they've eaten, because it would be impossible for it to be as strong as Miranda? I don't think corpse eaters even exist.
>She regenerates, can't be killed by Grimm
Her regeneration and hazy memories can be explained by TCO messing with her body and it's not like Grimm can't kill her, she's dodging his suprise attacks.
>her name never changes from Meryphillia
That doesn't mean anything, Mary Ann also never goes back to Mary Sue.
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>>979929
why would she have memories of eating her own corpse, then? it can't be anyone messing with her memories because if TCO could then it would've just erased her in the first place, that's the whole reason she's hiding in a cave all game.
honestly i think Hein's just trying to bypass the Theseus's ship problem by getting her to not think about it. if she's a copy that's indistinguishable from the real, then she might as well be the real.
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>>979981
She didn't erase any of the other heroines, she incorporated them into the play, it's the same case here. Her cave is part of Griffy's questline, TCO knows she's there.
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>>979993
>She didn't erase any of the other heroines, she incorporated them into the play
Remember Elma, Jeanne and Goose?
Yeah, neither does TCO.
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>>978342
Go to mushroom village with 0 Sen. There will be a path to a new place. There will be a boss that is a giant house. Kill it. With it's soul, you can exchange for the black rabbit ring. You can repeat the process in each cycle, having 4 black rabbit rings (each giving you one more action for sure).
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>>980006
Yeah, but they still exist.
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>>979993
i dunno man
there's not really any evidence in favor of her not being a corpse eater besides Hein's comment and that can easily be him being mistaken or lying, while there's an awful lot that points to her being one. i'm not fully convinced of either until we get some more info but i'm pretty strongly on the side of her being one. i just can't see the entire thing being a clever ruse to sort of vaguely shake your confidence in her. it's one red herring too many.

anyone got a link to the nip wiki? i wanna see what they think.
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>>978713
I'm pretty sure that in BS2 at least is around 3x.
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>>979981
Why does it even matter? She didn't kill Miranda. She looks like Miranda, she thinks like Miranda, she has all of Miranda's memories, she cast away whatever persona she had before to become Miranda. The only difference is that her body can finally keep up with Grimm, which is what Miranda would have wanted. Also her breath might smell bad, but nobody said it's a new thing. I'd rather have a perfect copy of a friend than not have them at all.
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If you don't have faith in her you don't deserve her.
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>>980057
I haven't seen this pic before, is it from the game?
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where is alice?
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>>980056
>>980057
it literally does not matter to me, i'm very much of the opinion that a copy that's indistinguishable from the original might as well be the original. maybe she wasn't before but she's miranda now.
it's just one more in the long list of things to beat the shit out of TCO for.
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Rolling for my wife, Elma!
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>>980079
I do wonder what could possibly kill Miranda in the first place. Last time it took an entire nation's worth of people ganging up on her after she was already tired from butchering her way through a few more without as much as a good night's rest.
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>>980074
Rolling for Snow White!
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>>978907
The number of threads and if I remember correctly I saw some scene that looked comfy.
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>>980074
Gimme a hag!
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>>980074
one prickett please and thank you

>>980100
some dumb hax Great One bullshit i'll bet
i feel like all the ones you beat up as Grimm are either going easy on you or particularly weak, if they seriously intended to kill you you wouldn't have even made it into BS1
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>>980074
I love Miranda!
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>>980135
Prickett is smelly! And I wouldn't have it any other way.
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>>980146
where did this meme even come from, is it some throwaway line from her scenes that i skimmed over or what
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>>980074
>frog
N-Nice.
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>>980153
Anon from /hgg2d/
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I finally learned to decode SENspeak.
https://2cyr.com/decode/?lang=en
Select source KOI8-R displayed as CP930 to scramble texts, and otherwise to unscrable them.
cwqvb@q@cfЁЁf@Ёibv@atqdf
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Give me 2 girls better then my wife Leaf come on ill wait.
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>>979760
How do you know?
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>>980176
She says that she was trapped in a white void similar to how Alice was in ending G, and that Leaf said that "imitation is the highest form of flattery."
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>>980170
Miranda and Meryphillia
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>>980170
Alice and Alice
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>>980166
boina i bette than /lice
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>>980166
The english version of.
>>971212
>>971217

Alice! She is! To us, Alice is all!
Ahh, sweet-sweet Alice, one must give you
the deepest, absolute love! It's Alice!
Alice who guides us all!

Friendly little thing, Alice! Alice?
Aaah, Alice!
It is my turn to use Alice's pussy!
THE ONE WHO LOVES ALICE THE MOST IS ME! DO NOT STAND IN MY WAY

I'll believe only in Alice, no one else.
Even if it's beyond belief, even if my love to beloved Alice
is beyond all reason

Alice is only I To us there's only
deep, deep, DEEP penetration into Alice's pussy
pussy PUSSY

To us, there's only Alice, only Alice,
Alice, I'm sorry, Lorina, Edith, Lorith
Lorice LoliceAlicealicealice

The solution to the equation of Life, the Universe, and
Everything is Alice. You only need to embrace Alice
and hold her very, very tight. This soul, all, belongs
to Alice

Being killed? Becoming part of Alice? Dreaming?
Our soul belongs to Alice.
Winning, Losing, save me, saving,
I don't want to be saved

AliceloveLOVEloVELOve
LovinglivingAlicingAliceAliceaahh, alovece
My beloved dear little girl, Alice
Liddell
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>>980170
Alice and Alice
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>>980212
The name alice is forever tainted for me by this game.
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holy shit this is gold
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>>980166
>>980212
Is this the only instance where she can't be understood even with the ring?
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>>980166
I don't get it.
I assume it's supposed to be Lorina is better than Alicebut I don't know why it doesn't come out right for me
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Did anyone killed Leaf the first time you met her in a new game? If so, what happens?

>>980212
I'm impressed that we are still going down on the rabbit hole even before DLC3
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>>980245
Anon, you can still understand her
The one talking is (You)
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>>980260
She drops a Black Soul.
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>>980287
>only one
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Is there a specific trigger for Alice appearing in the maze in wonderland?
I had a save just before talking to Prikket going on a date and I found her there, and didn't save after, now I tried again twice based on that save, and the scene didn't happen.
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>>980307
Get yo SEN down before the date.
Same if you want to roll a 6
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>>980307
1/5 chance
>Get yo SEN down before the date
Your SEN resets when you start the date
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>>980326
>+1 SEN for a kiss
>+10 SEN for canonically the best sex you've ever had
>Prickett gets you from 0 to 100 with little more than a smile.
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>>978907
I wanted to know what the spoiler text said so I had to play the games
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>>980242
man i wish i knew what all the status effects did in this game. I don't even know how much stats you get per stage from all the +stat up buffs
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>>980028
>there's not really any evidence in favor of her not being a corpse eater
I think the fact that the only ones who consider her one are Griphy and Lorina who are well beyond salvation is a strong indication that Meryphilia may simply be a character role.
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>>980212
Being Grimm is suffering.





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