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Which was better?
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>>959086
Male for Paragon Female for Renegade.
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>>959086
Good strong Shepard is invincible sex murderer but cuckold Ryder is small penis male virgin Obsidian developer!
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hale was pretty consistently good
meer had higher highs and lower lows
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>>959093
This Ryder needs proper pauldrons.
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>>959127
What! Ryder cannot lift pauldron anon with American California shoulder anon! It is true anon! It is!
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>>959127
He more desperately needs a body more appropriate to the size of his head. He looks like a midget.
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>>959086
>Actual hero
vs
>Ginger albino ape
Not even a contest.
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>>959086
I liked Hale's voice acting better.
Also my renegade adept was a femshep, and it was my favorite class so she became my default through the next two games.
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>>959093
Why does he have the body proportions of a toddler?
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>>959313
It is American California Klinefelter Syndrome anon! It is!
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>>959086
Man shepard is best because men are made for war. Women cannot do war and are bad at it. Man shepard saves the galaxy and survives, woman shepard dies in some other colored explosion.
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>>959093
Ryder himself look like foreign , weak and with very female moves.
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>>959407
Thank you anon! You are a good anon!
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>>959086
Jennifer hale is so emotionless in every game she acts in. Definitely not her ever.
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>>959090
Came here to post this.
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>>959417
kys valfag
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>>959588
No!
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>>959588
>kys
>he said
>but what he really meant was
>kms

For he hated himself.
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>>959086
KROGAN
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>>959086
Did they play in any way differently?
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>>960088
femshep had fewer romance options

Which pissed me off a lot.
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>>959090
I started the trilogy with a Renegade fem-Shep that softened up after her romance with Liara and regret that Kaiden died.
Next I'm thinking I'll play with Paragon man-Shep that loses his shit after romancing Ashley and getting her killed off and slowly turns Renegade.
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played as Paragon Sheploo and Renegade Femshep.
>Redhead
>freckles
>Hale's angry voice
I hope they keep her default ME3 look for all three games
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>>959086
Only male shepard matter
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>>959109
Dude you can't compare Hale to Meer.
One is a professional voice actor.
And the other's biggest role at the time was ME trilogy.
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>>960316
Here you go anon
https://www.nexusmods.com/masseffect/mods/178
https://www.nexusmods.com/masseffect2/mods/289
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why'd they make her such a skank in the third game
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>>960705
Thanks, I already use these.
I was talking about the remaster I guess.
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>>959086
Renegade Futashep is canon.
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>>960106
>>959086
You can't romance Ashley before Virmire based retard.
Paragon male Shepard is the most satisfying for the story but who gives a shit since the third game renders all of it useless with pretty much anything.
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>>961660
>You can't romance Ashley before Virmire based retard.
Oh. Fuck it then, I'm not replaying
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>>959093
It's not as much his height but his weak upper torso and rear delts or lack thereof. He would look better with bigger shoulder pads.
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>>961668
I mean you could get her killed with udina in the third game and go ballistic I guess.
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>>959086
Shep for both. Femshep looks and sounds like a trashy hooker and I can't believe for a second that she'd make it anywhere close to the rank of Commander without sucking ten parsecs of schlong to get there.
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>>959093
>Ryder
Literally looks like a little kid playing dress up.
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Male shep is always better.
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>>960081
It's varren now
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>>959086
Doesn't work like that. Few people don't care about the sex and looks of their character. Most have a preference. I prefer female protagonists, and Jennifer Hale's a good VO too. So femshep for me.
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>>959086
Femshep because you can bone Garrus. Otherwise I think they are both pretty great though I wish Femshep had more of a unique appearance throughout like maleshep does
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>>960094
Did she?
Off the top of my head
>Maleshep
Liara
Ashley
Tali
Miranda
Jack
Kaiden
>Femshep
Kaiden
Liara
Garrus
Thane
The girl next to the starchart
Jacob (except not really I guess)
Javik (for one night stand

I guess male!shep had more "full" options, but fem!shep had more options overall
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>>961888
Oh wait, I forgot STEVEEEE for male!shep
So yeah I guess they are roughly even in overall options, though male!shep's are more "proper" romances
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>>960673
>Dude you can't compare Hale to Meer.
bioware thought he was good enough to play opposite hale.
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>>959086
Sheploo can romance Tali
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>>962215
is Tali worth it? I always pick the blue chick
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>>962246
Tali tells you to go for the optics when you shoot
Liara shoots in your optics with her futadick
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>>962246
All Bioware romances are easy to poke fun at. But Tali was my favorite.
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>>962246
She's got a pretty comfy romance. Everyone memed about the "picture" of her that was just a photoshopped image from the internet, but overall it was a pretty good romance. And had a satisfying ending at the end of the Rannoch arc
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>>962246
She's a thief, a liar, and a gypsy expy, but I repeat myself. So no.
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>>962327
>muh stolen normandy specs
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>>962289
>>962290
>>962299
>>962327
I'll try to stick to purple this playthru then, she always gave off teenage vibe tho
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>>962246
Tali has one of Bioware's better romances because she actually has an arc across three games. She goes from being the formal acquaintance with a common goal, to friends, to lovers, to lovers working together to take back a planet and win a war together. It's an arc that actually makes use of the series being a trilogy, and tells a nice story of people coming together despite all the hardship that separates them.

Also her accent is cute.
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>>962369
I fucking love my boy Garrus
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>>962342
She's basically a less whiny Aerie/less retarded Merril. Appeals to the same demographic.
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>>962381
>Aerie
Nowhere near as based as she doesn't provide you with an heir.
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>>962246
For me it's always between Tali and Jack
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>>962327
>ME3 itself proves that whole image about "muh stolen plans" was a fucking sham
>Still tries to fool people into believing it
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>>962342
>teenage vibe
and that's a good thing
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>>959086
Renegade Custom FemShep
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>>963073
Did you just open the game to take a picture of your shep in non-fullscreen windowed mode and then crappily crop it to post it on /vrpg/?
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>>963073
holy shit that's hideous
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>>959086
80% of the playerbase said Shepard, not femshep
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Femshep is a meme
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>>962369
Even better since you can resist her joining the squad and even threaten to take her off the ship, imo. Really feels like they're flung together via fate.
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>>963180
KROGAN COCK
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>>962246
Probably on of the best romances in the trilogy, yes
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>>963198
Liara is canon; Tali is cope.
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>>963210
futafag get thee gone
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>>963210
Yeah yeah, we know the blue futabitch is probably one of the devs' waifu. She's everywhere, even in Andromeda, and cannot die. Fuck off now.
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>>963210
Liara gets shoved so hard down your throat by the writers it's actually annoying as fuck. Even if you're not romancing her, hell even if your Shepard never even paid special attention to her, it's like every time she's in the cutscene Shepard becomes more softspoken and sentimental. Really fucking noticed it last time I played ME3. And that's without counting the bullshit she always pulls in between games where she always turns into the most competent person in the galaxy by pure magic.
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>>961648
I thought futacock was Liara not femshep
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>>963245
No, femshep is also futa territory. Which makes sense because she's garbage.
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>>963245
When Cerberus rebuilt her, they made her into an unstoppable futa dom.
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>>963266
>dom
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Imagine how gorgeous their kids would be
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>>963266
femshep is a submissive slut, anon. Strong on the battlefield, weak in the bed
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>>962246
I've gone the entire trilogy several times romancing Tali, Liara and Jack, Miranda and Samara only in 2 and I gotta say, after all that, Tali is my favorite option. She already has an advantage by sheer content, being one of the only two squadmates that gets to be in all three games, but also it just progresses really nicely and feels believable.
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>>961709
>"wrestle"
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>>963286
>and feels believable.
Honestly, this.
It's the only relationship that develops naturally, and is one of the very few that feels properly subdued compared to the surrounding plot.
Shepherd and Tali rally feel like people who work together, that slowly fell in love, and recognize that their relationship comes second to the life of every living thing in the galaxy, and is a guilty pleasure more than their reason for existing.
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>>963325
>a guilty pleasure
I mean, that might be a bit much. Only time where it's played out to be a bit of a guilty pleasure is during the Rannoch war, but that feels mostly like "If I let the other admirals know we're together, they're gonna get angry that I might be biased" or something like that. It's not like they keep it a secret otherwise or apologize for it.
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>>959086
I've never played as femshep, since I'm neither a female or a fag
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never played the games but stuck at home on quarantine. I usualy play rpgs in more magical settings as a sorceror or wizard, what should i play? looking at the classes, adept looks cool
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>>963364
Adept is pretty fun. Vanguard is fun too, it's more of a close quarters mage (in 2 and 3 you get the ability to warp to an enemy and blast them).

Note that 1 plays completely different from 2 and 3. 1 gives you a lot more abilitise that each have a separate cooldown while 2 and 3 have fewer abilities, but they can be used more often (though they all share a cooldown instead of having individual ones). 2 also tightens up the gunplay a lot from 1 though some people were unhappy about the change to a more standard ammo system over 1's heat system.
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>>963336
Yeah, probably not the best phrase for it, probably a fuck up on my part.

Hopefully the intent behind it is clear, though?
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>>963303
>Jack gets a Varren pet
YOU JUST KNOW
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>>963408
No. Shame on you. You actually were ashamed of your quarian gf. To the eezo mines with you.
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>>963411
She is a white girl with tattoos.
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>>963364
Adept in 1 is totally fucked in how silly it can be
Vanguard in the later games if you want to be a strength wizard
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>>963385
M A N G U A R D
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>>963477
>mfw with the right upgrades you can basically forgo guns entirely in ME3 and just keep alternating between dash and Nova and murder everything
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>>959090
actually i think mark did a far better renegade
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>>961888
Liara was unironically the best romance for femshep
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>>959109
Yeah, Hale was good all throughout, but I enjoyed Meer more over time. He was super stiff in the first game, but by the third I thought he had come more into his own.
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Femshep by a landslide. hate 2 and 3 so I am only considering 1 here, where Meer's performance is trash
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>>962246
Is there a mod that allow you to have more than one romance. Because once, I'm done with loyalty missions, I always feel like romancing Miranda, Jack, Tali and Samara. Their Loyalty missions show us why they are who they are.

>>962386
That's one of the hardest decisions Jack or Tali.
Jack a monster created by Cerberus's cruel and brutal experiments.
In ME3 you can see just what your shepard has done for her, how she gains something she always wanted.
Then there's Tali a member of a species that is shunned by the Galaxy.
Her romance shows what their life style has done to them on the individual level.
You'll see just what the curse of being born a Quarian is, self worth issues and so on.

>>963340
Please don't bring up the poorly written ME3 Rannoch war.
That part of the game is the biggest failure and embarrassment of Bioware.

>>963228
This is so true

>>962342
>teenage vibe
Even if she was 20 in ME2 and Shep was 40, Shep would still out live her, since Quarian probbably have a shorter lifespan due to their immune-system. (and human one is 130 years)
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holy hell why did no one tell me how fucking horrible the shotgun is in 2
it was good in 1
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I would join the alliance for her in an instant
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>>963908
everything is horrible in 2 because 2 fucking sucks
also aside from the special power weapons, the shotguns are honestly the best you can do. Vanguard teleport into shotty is the best damage.
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>>963477
i always miss on purpose because I really like his reaction. garrus is great
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>>964251
Nope. The character stories in 2 are great, the SMGs are fun as fuck, Sentinel comes into its own, and there are some entertaining uses of biotics to be had.

>>963908
SMGs
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>>963908
Yeah, that's the main issue I have with vanguard in 2, as fun as it is. It's supposed to synergize charge with shotgun, but shotguns are kinda balls, but they are also vanguards' primary "big damage" weapon.
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>>964340
Character stories are the only good part ME2.
Rest is just filler that doesn't expand the universe of ME.

I should also mention that every short coming that the ME3 story had can be traced back to 2.
Only ME1 and 3 expand the universe, whereas 2 only awkwardly exists.

Many might defend 2 because of 3 failure and forget about all it's short comings.
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>>963888
>is there a mod that allow you to have more than one romance
it's called being a Chad
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>>963455
Pretty sure she has a dog paw tattoo somewhere
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>>963940
Now I'm interested
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>>965029
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>>965029
anon, that's incest
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>>959086
Meer seems less sure of what he’s doing in the first game. He’s really good by 2 and 3. Hale sounds like she got bored by the time 3 came around.
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>>965611
No, it’s called having patrician tastes.
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>>959086
male no contest

bioware didnt even give female shepard other animations.
female shepard walks like a man. talks like a man etc etc

lazy ass developers
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>>965611
Is it really incest if it's an alternate version of you?
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>>964940
where do I sign up?
>>965822
yeah, kind of
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>>965822
I don't know
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Femshep gets to fuck Garrus

ergo Femshep wins
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>>965611
*selfcest
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>>959093
>"Mom told me it's my turn to have the N7 armor!"
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>>965611
More lile masturbation to me.
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I just want a redhead military gf bros...
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>>959086
I always found it amusing how Bioware basically couldn't settle on the way FemShep looked throughout the trilogy while they got a dude to model male Shepard on and stuck with him.
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>>966434
Then move your lazy ass and go find one
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>>966449
Bioware analytics showed that most people played default soldier male shepard anyway.
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>>966449
Femshep was a mistake anyway. Or a meme. History proved that players liked the real Shepard more.
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>>966468
I'm still unsure whether Mark Meer went with intentional monotone voice or was it just poor direction. VA is one of the reasons why some players went with FemShep as she was undoubtedly more expressive.
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>>966477
Yeah, but when you look at what the average normie player would do. They wouldn't restart the game upon hearing Mark Meer's voice. Something like that is just an afterthought. That's why you still get faggots replaying the series as femshep to this day and reacting to her voice like this.
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>>966477
I played femshep because of Hale, not really for the voice acting itself.
Her angry voice just makes me rock hard
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>>963228
Liara post-ME1 was pure fan service. In 2 it was kind of offset because she had a much smaller roel, but it is full blown in 3. From a bumbling nerdy scientist who has a hard time communicating with people to a tranny's wet dream of a femme fatale that controls a vast spy network.
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>>966434
It's a nice fantasy, but you really don't. No normal women join the military in actual non-support roles. If army men are cucks because their wives are cheating on them back home then army women are thirsty cock sluts because they think it'll make them like "one of the boys".
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>>966517
Things are different when space magic and cybernetic enhancements are involved. Women also have a better mental disposition towards being snipers
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>>966477
Mark Meer's voice is pure kino. I never got that "too monotone" shit. He is a hardened soldier. In fact, I think Hale's over the top acting doesn't fit Shepard at all and it is one of the reasons I've never played it, although I'm planning to give it a shot sometime in the future just because.

On top of that Renegade Shepard in 2 and his classic one liners takes me back to prime Arnold movies. It's really insane how good it is, to the point that I have a hard time playing paragon ever again.
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>>966477
Inexperience. He was only supposed to originally provide tone examples for the actual voice actor but they decided to stick with him instead in the end.
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>>966477
>mfw I realized Garrus' voice was not, in fact, modulated or filtered and it was just Brandon Keener's normal voice
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>>959086
mass effect is just garbage in general and barely an rpg
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>>966517
femshep is not a cock slut
she is pure waifu
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>>966527
It's really up to personal taste.
I had a good time as playing both.
I feel Meer does leave a stronger impression for me, but I think it's because he sounds goofy. Like his Renegade line are funny precisely because it sounds awkward, but it does have its own charm and charisma.
Hale does tend to overact, and it does stick out in dramatic moments. But she does put in more emotion and life in casual conversation.
I like both, and it adds distinctive personalities to both male and female shep
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>>966552
The word you're looking for is "camp."
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>>966527
Depending on what backstory you do. Shepard being "emotional" and hotblooded fits with Hale's acting. It really depends on how you're trying to play shep in the first place.
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>>966477
I didn't play in english, so I don't care about femshep's voice. It has never been an argument to me
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>>966560
yeah, campy is a good way to put it
>>966571
Which is why she goes well with renegade
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>>966527
>On top of that Renegade Shepard in 2 and his classic one liners
>*throws a guy through a window*
>"How 'bout goodbye?"
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>>966535
Well it was filtered, but not the deep part. All turians had a filter over their voices.
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Hale's "big stupid jellyfish" is one of my favorite lines in vidya.
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>>966814
>next panel is femshep screaming "YAMERO!"
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>>966845
Anon...
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>>959109
>>960673
I like Meer better because the improvement of his vocal performance throughout the games makes him really feel like he is going from an inexperienced spectre to basically the leader in the war against the Reapers by the time of ME3. Also Hale is too overdramatic and listening to her try to be badass is cringe while Meer sounds effortlessly badass, I just can't take Hale seriously as a legitimate soldier.
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>>966999
I personally found both of them just serviceable throughout the games. It wasn't until ME3 that I found myself really preferring Meer to Hale. In the first game, it was mostly the dialogue writing that affected both performers for me, all of it was just either passable or just asinine - Shepard in an all-renegade run in ME1 just sounds like a whiny retard or a sociopathic retard like 75% of the time. In ME2 almost everything was way too edged-up to really care, though there were a lot more actually memorable quotes. ME3 was about where the dialogue and the performers finally perfectly meshed.
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>>966999
>be badass is cringe while Meer sounds effortlessly badass, I just can't take Hale seriously as a legitimate soldier.
Perfectly summarized. Loved her as Bastilla, but the tough soldier part is not her forte. Granted, doubt many, if any women can pull it off either, so there's that at least
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>>966999
meer sounds corny a lot of the time and whenever i hear his voice i just think of the gamer poop edits.
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>>959086
hale is the no fun allowed serious business choice

manshep is way more entertaining
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why femshep haters have to literally lie and nitpick single lines in isolated sidequests to try to talk shit about Hale

they look like schizos
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>>967576
>hale is the no fun allowed serious business choice
In my brain I have a hard time separating the Boss from SR4 and Shepard from mass effect.
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>>966845
now why would she say that?
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>>959086
If you're a G*me J*ournalist its probably fem shep. If you're a functioning member of society its probably whoever is apart of the gender you identify as.
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Probably fem shep if you're a G*me J*urnalist. If you're a functioning member of society probably whoever is representing the gender you identify as. I'm a dude so I don't have interest in the characters I made fraternal bonds with dicking me down under any circumstance.
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>>966523
That is only because Women put less value on human life then men.
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>>959093
The worst part about it was how badass his dad was.
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>>968264
Mini Ryder was not N7 anons so wear father N7 armor is American stolen valor anons! It is true anons! It is!
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>>959086
Male because that's what the game was primarily designed and written around.
The male VO also fit the characters better.
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>>962369
>Tali has one of Bioware's better romances because she actually has an arc across three games.
You mean Liara, which canonically makes more sense and is better written.
The fact that Liara saves your body (so you can even be ressurected in 2) and the Shadow Broker DLC makes every other choice come across as a meme.
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>>968392
I romance her in the first game because her entire story in ME2 and the DLC feels super weird if you barely interacted with her in ME1.
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>>968415
Liara is basically the canon choice for several reasons like romanceable from the beginning, romanceable for both fem/male Shep, ties in narratively, isn't reactionary (like Tali, which they only made romanceable because players liked her in 1), etc.
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>>968430
She has plenty to work with, but more content doesn't mean more canon in a game like this. I'm sure there's at least one person somewhere out there in the multiverse who insists that the IGN reporter was their go-to.
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>>968430
Garrus is canon
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>>959086
femshep is cringe
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>>968609
Garrus is best. But Male!shep is likely canon, so sadly Garrus cannot be.
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you did get your mass effect animu statues, right /vrpg/?
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>>960106
>I started the trilogy with a Renegade fem-Shep that softened up after her romance with Liara
I wish games were better at handling this kind of thing. If you don't play 100% good or 100% bad the game gets weird because there's no real in-game dialogue to address the morally gray or morally evolving protagonist. The reactions all just change on a dime and it feels like the characters have the memory of a goldfish.
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>>968766
I would put her in my cumjar
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>>968925
Who keeps a cumjar?
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>>968930
>he doesn't know
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>>959086
Male shep because I thought he had the sassy mouth when compared with the female. She just sounded bitchy.
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>>968958
Yeah, that's why I asked
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>>968984
are you newfren?
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>>969006
Nevermind
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Fuck man I just wanna figure out how to give myself an Armor bar so I get Health>Armor>Shields. I know there's a file out there to edit, but I don't have enough autism to figure out where and how to put it in.
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>>959090
this
or use mods and console commands to max out paragon and renegade and pick what you want
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garrus is gay
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>>966477
He sounds more like a proper soldier.
>>963210
I go for blueberry every time.
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>>963210
That Mary Sue is boring as fuck.
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>>969219
Tali is boring for me, and has annoying voice and attitude at times and is not sexy (well, hard to judge with the suit on).
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>>969580
I'm not judging, we all have different taste and there's a romance for everybody. I honestly liked Liara in ME1, but I hated her evolution and how "in your face" she became, you know? She got her own big DLC, she's the only squad member that cannot die...and so on. Liara this, Liara that. Hell, she's even in Andromeda!
I just had enough of her ; not to mention I found most Asari asari more charismatic or interesting than her
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>>969696
Trust me most people will admit that they made Liara ''in your face'' after ME1, especially in ME3.
She's great character but if you don't romance her in ME1 then romance someone from ME2.

I personally never romanced Liara and outside of admitting that she's hot and a pleasant person was never interested in romancing her.
Mainly because, I don't like romantic relationships with someone who'll outlive me by several centuries.
And I quite hate the Asari due to the way they lead and operate the Citadel council.
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>>969219
>Mary Sue
You don't even know what that term means.
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>>969870
The Asari freak me out. There's a throwaway bit of NPC dialogue that sealed it where three guys of different species are talking about how the Asari look like them and when they wonder how that can all be true at the same time they pause and one asks if the Asari could be psychically manupulating every species to find them attractive. Tali for life.
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>>970371
Lmao, do you seriously one of those types that thinks that they actually change their appearance? Don't be stupid, you could just look at a camera footage (or do autopsy on a dead one) and know how they look. It's more like how different species like different traits/body parts of asari.
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Femshep and Garrus are the cutest couple
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>>970518
Bitch doesn't swallow
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>>970700
Because he cums inside raw every time
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>>969109
I wish
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>>970703
Would cum in the butt or vagoo cause medical issues?
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>>970719
If swallowing causes anaphylactic shock, I would assume it wouldn't be recommended.
But I'm bo doctor, ask Mordin
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>>962215
Considering in game canon said that Quarians were closer genetically to Taurans than to humans, it always bothered by that maskless Tali looks very human.
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>>959086
They really missed an opportunity in the last bit of ME3 DLC where you fight a Shep-Clone that it wasn't FemShep vs Sheploo
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>>970873
The outline of her face in her helmet looks vaguely human, so I can see why the general interpretation wouldn't be super alien, but everyone has their own take on her.

They really should have just given people a view of her in the ME2 romance scene if they were going to reveal her at all. Instead they let everyone argue about it for years on end and build up different mental images of her to the point that no one would be satisfied by the actual last-second reveal.
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>>970873
They clearly have humanoid faces, but not having features a little more suited to being stuck in a suit forever was a shit choice.
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>>959417
God bless you wifeAnon
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>>970873

The only thing that Quarians and Turians share is status as the only dextro races named by Bioware.

And fun fact: Human are Levo-Dextro species, we are capable to eat both levo and dextro without any health issues.
Bioware simply fuck up once more.
>>970700
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>>970873
>pic
So fucking lazy. A great representation of the gives no fuck, pay pig nao attitudes ME3 had.
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>>966603
from the same mission
>>One of the trapped Salarian Workers hiding points a gun at you in fear
>> "I-I don't w-want to hurt you
>>Renegade punch KO
>> "Hurt me? I didn't feel a thing"
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By the time ME came out, Jennifer Hale was too recognizable for me. When I heard her as Mazzy from BG2, or Fall-from-Grace from PS:T, or Elena from Grandia II, I just saw those characters as who they were. But now all I hear is Jennifer Hale.

It's not her fault, this happens to me with other VAs.
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>>971043
I imagine dextro might still be toxic if it's from another world. Though I suppose it would be just toxic.
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>>970825
Apparently realistically nothing would happen. If you eat the opposite kind of dextro material or whatever, you won't get sick. You'll just get nothing out of it whatsoever. Your body can't process it either way.
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>>959343
Why do you type like that
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>>959086
Choosing anyone other than Commander "we'll bang okay" Shepard
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>>970918
Thank you anon! You are a good anon! I do love you anon! I do!
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>>961668
What the other dude means is you don't have a "sex" scene with her before virmire.
You can still have started the romance and done all the dialogue.

t.dude who romanced her, regretted it and killed her off on virmire to make room for superior blue babe in my bed.
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>>970873
in game canon said that they were also the most similar looking to humans, so despite that picture being the epitome of laziness, it does fit.
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>>972180
Ah, then I think that will suffice
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>>962678
Doesnt it prove it was more than likely true if anything?
In a couple years the poor space gypsies suddenly developed the exact same tech that took the cost of a dreadnaught (or was it second biggest ship?) and cooperation between 2 species for R+D to make. Definitely not suspicious.
I'm a talifag and i'd betray humanity for those sweet sweet hips of hers, but i still think she was thief/spy.
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>>970873
>Quarians were closer genetically to Taurans than to humans
Because they're both dextro-protein species.
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>>964740
>filler is bad
Shit opinion my dude.
Many of the most popular things in different media are so loved because of 'filler' where it lets you really know the characters and world, even if not particularly advancing plot.
Not to deny any shortcomings in any of the 3 games, there are many, but being filler isnt bad in itself imo.
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>>970516
>t. asari whore internet defence force
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>>972177
>pic
>implying
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>>972220
Man that would be a really good character moment, wouldn't it? Tali being found out by Shepard as having actually stolen the plans and having to face the consequences whatever they may be.
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>>972330
The consequences are a quarian fleet that's worth like half as much as all the war assets you've collected until then.
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>>970516
It's weird for that dialogue to be in the game if it's not meant to freak you out a little. And I don't think it implies they literally change their appearance, more that people will see what they want to see so that the Asari appeal to everyone.

That's not even the biggest issue with them though. The way they do things and behave in general is off putting. Their longevity implies wisdom but it really comes off as detatchment. I also resent that the game pushes Liara so hard. I felt the same about Miranda and her woe is me I'm too perfect bullshit. The "main" romance options are goofy and cliche as shit in these games. Tali (and Garrus for fem) is the only romance that feels natural and cute. Maybe because neither of them are romanceable in the first game so there's actually a lot more time for it to evolve and with them being the only teammates across all three games there's more interaction in general.
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>asari are attractive to everybody
>they're just blue humans
hmm
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>>972786
Maybe because we're all humans that's how we're seeing them because that's how their powers work.
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>>972177
why do you type like that
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>>972822
then why does female shepherd see them as femoids?
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>>972220
Bioware confirmed that it wasn't actually Tali who created the schematics, but some Quarian scientist.

And then there is the second thing about Normandy's stealth, it isn't even that hard to replicate.
Since the only thing you need are heatsinks that could absorb heat for a few hours.

My headcannon is that stealth was always a thing but no one saw it's benefits until Humans showed them the Normandy.
After all Quarians must have been part of the council for several centuries.
And don't tell me that the Citadel races couldn't imagine stealth-ships, the only reason nobody ever built them is that they were too expensive and ineffective.
That's until Humans and Turians created the Normandy (which I think Turians thought was going to be a failure.)
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>>972822
If they were using illusions then their equipment would not be compatible with any humanoid races. While its not as cool, a mental influence to accentuate whatever other races would find attractive is more plausible.
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>>972786
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yz3l4eCP3eM
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>>959086
Man Shep. Hale sounds like she's constantly trying to sound tough.
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>>967205
>though there were a lot more actually memorable quotes
Speaking of, I find a real shame that everyone acts like pushing the merc off the window is the best moment for a Renegade play when holding back, calmly threatening him (I think the line was something like "What if I were to push you out of this window? Do you think you'll hear your bones shatter before you die?") and watching him run away so scared he doesn't even warn anyone is so much better.
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>>973107
>super advanced race
>becomes a stripper
hmmmm
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>>972268
Fuck, I like Cora even more now
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>>968766
>Femshep is a strong-willed high schooler
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>>972663
Liara is not woes is me prefect desu. But anyway, no Tali, she's annoying.
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>>972822
>>973089
No, it's stupid, that shit was played as a joke as to why other ayys fiend more human looking ayy attractive plus they even talk about body parts being attractive and you guys go hurr they change appearance with magic.
>>973140
You can say the same about humans then.
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>>972220
First, Bioware themselves said that wasn't a point they made.

Second, there's a conversation within ME3 itself after recruiting Tali and winning the Rannoch war. Engineer Adams, Kenneth, Gabby and Tali are standing in the engines room. Tali says something along the lines of "You know, quarian ships have a heating system that kinda works like the Normandy's stealth drive. I bet if I apply some of the same principles of optimization I can improve it somewhat". The rest of the engineering team tells her that's probably wishful thinking, as the Normandy is wayyyyy more sophisticated and finicky than some random quarian diplomacy ship. Tali decides to try anyway, just to see if it works. The Normandy immediately has a power outage and has to reboot all systems, and Tali says in a defeated voice "I'll get started on reparations".

Second, there's also a conversation with Kal'Reegar in Haelstrom during the Tali recruitment mission in 2. In it he talks of how they used the heating system in their ship to try to emulate the Normandy and approach in quasi-stealth mode, which apparently was something the quarians already knew how to do before Tali ever got into the Normandy. They got caught anyway, because they don't actually have that technology at any point. They just have something that uses the same process, for completely different reasons.
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>>973353
I said second twice but obviously I meant to say third. Anyway, the point is made.
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>>959086
Left is canon.
Right is some coomer simps headcanon
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>>972220
>>973353

I think many fans forget that the Citadel Council existed for some 2 000 years, they most definitely experimented with stealth ship.
Salarian stealth dreadnoughts being a prime example.
They just never made one solely focused on stealth, that's until Human and Turians create the Normandy.
Whose success was most definitely regarded with a lot of surprise by the Turians (who most likely seen it as a doomed project from the start).

And considering that Quarians were most likely second in technology in their prime only to the Asari.
They most definitely have the knowledge of how to create a stealth ships.
If not then they most definitely know the principles and basics of it.
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>>973336
humans are just monkey people
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>>959086
vanilla shepherd is the only choice
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>>973336
>You can say the same about humans then.
For a hundred years? Even the hundreds year old adults are still willing to have casual sex if you ask them or press the issue.
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>>973722
What makes you think that they do it for hundreds of years. It's also silly to assume that all of them do it. Especially in their own worlds, where would they need asari work in any other occupations.
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>>973353
>Second, there's a conversation within ME3 itself after recruiting Tali and winning the Rannoch war. Engineer Adams, Kenneth, Gabby and Tali are standing in the engines room. Tali says something along the lines of "You know, quarian ships have a heating system that kinda works like the Normandy's stealth drive. I bet if I apply some of the same principles of optimization I can improve it somewhat". The rest of the engineering team tells her that's probably wishful thinking, as the Normandy is wayyyyy more sophisticated and finicky than some random quarian diplomacy ship. Tali decides to try anyway, just to see if it works. The Normandy immediately has a power outage and has to reboot all systems, and Tali says in a defeated voice "I'll get started on reparations".
Damn, how'd I miss this?
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>>972786
>>972822
>>973107
The part of the brain that's able to see and recognize faces is separate from the part of the brain that's dedicated to normal vision. This is why some people can have perfect vision and memory but be faceblind, and unable to recognize their own mother. Asari have human-like faces, and that's the most unique and detailed part about them from our perspective. So it's also what we associate with their beauty, how we tell one apart from another. But the same isn't true for other races. Even on Earth, other species are able to identify each other by features we don't recognize as unique. Zebras naturally and easily tell each other apart by their stripes, whereas a human would have to pay close attention and memorize those same stripes in order to stand a chance at recognizing them. Turians look at the fringe, probably Krogan as well, Salarians likely look at the skin colour/texture. To them, those features are more recognizable and prominent. We can't tell asari apart by their fringe alone, but it's more familiar to a Turian.
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>>973140
>>super advanced race
>>becomes a stripper
>hmmmm
Clearly you've never met rich white girls.
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>>974156
If anything, that one time I replayed ME3 and went through that conversation again, I wondered how can nobody at all have brought it up or how I didn't even remember it whenever that autismo posted his meme image. It's easily the most flashy random ship conversation in the entire trilogy, since it's four different people arguing and the entire ship shutting down for a moment.

I tried to look for a video of it on youtube, but I guess it was ignored in favor of three million "Tali gets drunk" videos.
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>>974156
>>974698
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9OuePXazQgQ

Found it for you two
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>>974936
Yep, there it is.
Though I remember in my game the lights shut down for a moment too. Maybe it was a different patch? Or maybe it was one of the mods.
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>>974959
It could have been a mod, maybe Extended Galaxy or something toyed with it
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>>973089
>While its not as cool, a mental influence to accentuate whatever other races would find attractive is more plausible.
That's exactly the argument being made. Nobody is saying they're shapeshifters.
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Frecklebeast... is now musclebitch
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This is basically her build
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>>976076
hot
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>>976076
Hope they add abs in the remaster
Also, she's still frecklebeast
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>>976076
>>976272
She's ... still not attractive. And never will be.
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>>976299
Different strokes for different folks, anon.
She's mine anyway
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>>976272
Definitely, I cannot find that face attractive...
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>>973353
>>974156
Implying this isnt what a spy would do to make it seem like she wasn't the one stealing schematics.
keeping her position onboard safe so she could stay and steal more intel.
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>>977871

>>973437
>>973017
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>>977876
This >>973437 is 90% you saying they 'probably' knew this, they 'probably knew that' when you actually get to the quarians.
The only concrete point you have there is how turians were surprised at how well Normandy worked, implying more than anything else, that no one had made something close to that.

On this one >>973017 'my headcanon is no one else saw the benefits until humans made the normandy'.
There's that old sci-fi trope of humans being the most creative/pushing the envelope when they get into these galactic communities, and as everything else suggests, no one else had made a stealth ship that actually worked. So for the quarians to suddenly have basically the exact same ship a couple years after normandy on such tiny R+D is more suspicious, it'd suggest they found out the secrets to normandy's tech.

I assume the basis of this theory and some suggestions towards it were likely put in on purpose, but perhaps after Tali being a surprise hit they reeled that back in a bit because they didnt want to upset people who liked her.

Obviously all mine is also just theory, and my thoughts, jut like you for your side.
Even if they confirmed this, tali would still be best girl. I just find the implications of this interesting and would have liked to see a version where this was true and addressed in game. Perhaps with a renegade interrupt where you angrily fuck tali to get back at her
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>>963477
>Vanguard
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>>976299
what was bioware thinking with the drag queen tier makeup and full on chola eyebrows
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>>977930
This is some serious autism.
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>>977930
Tali: Routing heat through propulsion and weapons will let us use the internal emissions sink for three hours longer than normal.
-Propulsion and weapons systems have built-in heat sinks. They can trap heat while we're in stealth mode to buy us more time. Quarian ships do it when they can't find a safe place to bleed of static charge. It's completely safe.

>So for the quarians to suddenly have basically the exact same ship
To me that conversation hints at the fact that they knew the basics of the principle.
It was also said in ME2 that Quarian dropships could use a semi-stealth when flying similar to ME3's Kodiak A model.
So to me it seams that the galaxy knew how stealth works, they just didn't use it. (don't know why, who knows)
If you think, I'm wrong then please correct me so I don't say nonsense.

>old sci-fi trope of humans being the most creative/pushing
I hate that trope with passion since it just makes Humanity seem so bland.
In the few stories, I read where this trope was or the HFY thing.
The authors just make Humanity the goody two shoes who are super nice and technologically advanced, with AIs that are complitly perfect and have no flaws.
Just once, I would like a story where humans aren't the paragons of virtue and don't wank off the AIs.

>Obviously all mine is also just theory
Could you actually tell me your theory, you got me quite interested.

>tali would still be best girl
No question there from me.
And even if Bioware made it canon, it would only make her more endearing and selfless since she's willing to sacrifice her relationship with Shep for the survival of her people.
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>>978061
Just because there's nothing special about you that doesn't mean there's nothing special about humanity as a whole. The sheer lever of arrogance and stupidity for you to under your own petty failings as a projection on an entire species and pretend there's something special about you as an individual for being a contrarian. Humanity has the biggest potential for so much good despite all the bad, just kys already if you've given up this way. I don't wish to share a planet with the likes of you, since ironically you are the main cause of the very thing you hate. Develop some empathy or shut the fuck up you edgy manchild.
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>>978061
>the galaxy knew how stealth works, they just didn't use it. (don't know why, who knows)
it could be one of those thing where nobody really wants to commit to developing a line of tech when what they have works fine. after all, they haven't had a major conflict since the krogan rebellion and that's usually what pushes military tech forward (suppressors being invented in the early 1900s but not adopted by any militaries until ww2 for example) the citadel fleets have mostly been running pirate interdictions and shit like that where stealth wouldn't really help.

there's also the fact that the sr1 normandy has that big cutting edge drive core, without that giving the ship way more utility, power and range than its size class i coukd see the idea of making a stealth frigate just not being that appealing vs making more regular ones or other kinds of ships (iirc an alliance admiral in me1 complains about this too)
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>>978096
>edgy manchild.
Apologies but how is it edgy to not like a story that constantly has to make humans the center of the universe.
And what's the problem of wanting to see other types of governments and cultures shown in a sci-fi setting?
I mean that's one of the reasons why some hate ME, because it focused on Humanity too much.

>>978104
To me the main reason why they never made many stealth ships is because, well you are only hiding your heat signature.
And as you said they never even needed it that much.
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>>978061
>>978104
Considering one of the things the games tend to remark about the Normandy is that if it goes for too long in stealth mode the crew literally fries to death inside it, I'm willing to bet it was simply a problem of nobody knowing how to contain the rapidly rising temperature well enough to make stealth mode last long enough to be practical for any purpose, so the turians decided early on that just was not useful, probably after rapidly cooking a few crews by accident themselves when they were first testing out the technology. There's also the problem in ME3 where the engineering team tells you to get them some component or another because the way the core works is that if the Normandy SR2 goes too much into overdrive it literally vents the heat into the engines room. Literally the first people to die (and horribly at that) if the Normandy is turned on for too long are the engineers, basically the people you need to stop the Normandy from getting fucked up by it's own systems.

Kind of a stupid design decision from Cerberus when you think about it.
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>>961660
>You can't romance Ashley before Virmire based retard.
You can certainly advance the romance far enough to get her picture in your ME2 office despite killing her in Virmire. The game has more trigger flags than "had sex with x", you know?
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>>968392
>better written.
>romance Liara in ME1 & 2
>export that save to 3
>Liara keeps going through the "are we friends or something else" thing three separate times throughout, like some awkward back and forth where you'll reassure her you're still steady only for her to go "we're such good friends Shepard" an hour later
It just annoyed me too much to bother maintaining that romance.
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>>977972
Holy shit, the right one is way more appealing
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>>978144
>Cerberus doing stupid things without regarding the consequences
Fits them well from ME1.
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>>976076
Need to up that tit game, but she's pretty great otherwise.
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>>977955
vanguard shields regen when charging in ME2?
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>>959086
Male for male players and female for female players.
>ha...haha b-b-but I don't want t-to look at a m-male butt all day
Just stop. You're a pathetic faggot.
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>>978218
And from ME2, what with Project Overlord or wanting to keep the Collector base...
And from ME3, what with literally everything they do in it...
And probably from that spin off about Jacob I never bothered to check out because who the fuck cares about Jacob...

Actually, all things considered, reviving Shepard is probably the only good thing they ever did.
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>>959086
Hale does a better job, but Meer is the only choice. I'm mostly just sick of Hale, bitch is so overused, or was at the time.
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>>980390
>who the fuck cares about Jacob...
BUT THE PRIZE.......
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https://www.strawpoll.me/35203497
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>>983351
Jack is trash.
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>https://www.strawpoll.me/35203497
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>>985706
Yeah no shit, Tali in 1 was fucking busted.
>Need a tech character to open locks
>Shield skills make her tanky as all fuck
>Geth spam in virtually every single mission
>Pairs up perfectly with Wrex, another of the most busted squadmates
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>>985706
I take Liara on almost every mission.
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>>986534
yeah it was usually my combo too, sometimes Wrex+Garrus
I always did Liara mission last so never really used her
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>>985706
The pink armor is so retarded.
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So is Andromeda worth playing? It's on sale for like $10 right now.
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>>989003
Yeah i think it's worth $10. The jetpack is fun.
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>>989022
Is DA:I worth playing too? It's in a bundle with Andromeda.
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>>989029
You know, I played Inquisition for around 30 hours. I put the game away and felt relief. I guess you can't go wrong with $10, but you might just hate it.
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female
do you really want to spend hours looking at mans ass from third perspective
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>>989029
I'm gonna have to agree with that anon. For 10 bucks I find Andromeda worth, playing around with the guns and exploration is worth it. But with Inquisition I just couldn't be bothered to even finish it. Boring story but then the combat just didn't make up for it. I actually remember it annoying me more than anything. In Andromeda I often found myself driving around, finding a random enemy outpost and thinking "Sure, why not, it'll be fun". With Inquisition I groaned every time I saw an enemy standing in the way.
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>>989159
you will never be a woman and will never even be accepted as a woman
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>>989120
>>989171
I bought the bundle.
It will take me a little bit to get around to it, I still need to play the other dragon age games and finish ME2/3.
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I want to romance and bang Dr "Chocolate" Chakwas
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>>989171
Agreed. Andromeda was fun during the times it was an actiom game and not an rpg.
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>>991515
And that Cora ass, man. Better than Miranda's.
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>>991551
>Cora ass
>Not Vetra fringe
Unf.
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>>983351
Liara>Tali>Others
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>>983351
Suck it, bosh'tets
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>>989159
see
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>>989003
it's definitely worth $10. i lost interest in the game and stopped playing, so i won't sing its praises, but it's worth checking out for such a cheap price.
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>>978096
>there's nothing special about humanity as a whole
This, only individuals are special, and are called "geniuses" and "heroes". The rest of humanity only exists to breed these special individuals or act as their meatshields.



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