17 days. Only 17 days for CRPGs to be saved
>owlcuckuhhh are you an unironic tranny?
>>3280199Does anyone like Jae? Anyone? At all? What were they thinking? Old. Busted. Ugly. Brown. Gross. What the fuck?
>>3280207As a companion, she is fun. She tries so hard to play the ' suave cold trade' role, but she does not have the charisma. It is a plot point that she is a desperate person acting cool. . . As a romance, no.Not a fun of the change from marksman top leader, but I guess they wanted someone other than cassia handling the role, what with cassia also having all the navigator talents.Though I like Argenta, Pasqal, Abelard, Heinrix and Cassia more.
>>3280210>Argenta>Not a romanceWhy are they so retarded? No, it wasn't GW's fault. They tried the same excuse with Amiri and got deboonked immediately by Paizo. And it's not like GW forced them to make the other romance options complete trash just because Argenta couldn't be one. It's their own shit taste.
>>3280220>They tried the same excuse with Amiri and got deboonked immediately by Paizo.Why do we trust Paizo more than Owlcat?And I am not romancing anyone in general, so I guess it just fails to make me angry
>>3280224>Why do we trust Paizo more than Owlcat?They're both pozzed to hell but only one of them consistently makes the worst and faggiest decisions for player romance options. DLC waifu? Nope, here's a faggot viking!
It *might* be better than Pillars of Eternity. But only *might*. It is hard to dethrone kings.
>>3280227>consistently makes the worst and faggiest decisions for player romance optionsThen they would not have made the twin goats, would they?> Nope, here's a faggot viking!Isn't he bi? And people here posted constantly about lack of white HUMAN specifically companions. I guess they did not really wnat them?
Y'all really don't have self respect if you plan to romance the fish. Like... its not only that she is yucky, but she is also an egotistical shitter who whines the whole time if you properly utilize her as a buff-bot.
>>3280227>muh faggot vikingDon't care, I was balls deep in succubus pussyAlso he's based
>>3280236Using a navigator in battle IS weird
>>3280227>Special snowflake capital G Gaymer got triggered by the games DLC companion not pandering to his own coomer tastesWow, who could have guessed
>>3280238>Don't care, I was balls deep in succubus pussyToo bad she refuses to live with you>MUH ASCENSION ENDINGIt's the same fucking cuckshed ending pasted on to the end of the ascension ending kek
>>3280248>schizing out about cuckoldryWhy do you project your fetishes onto others? Also would I be correct that its actually just copium to surpress your deeper desire to be the woman(male) being fucked by BBC?
>>3280249>>3280254>deflecting from muh succubus waifu refusing to live with youLike clockwork
>>3280255What's there to deflect? I just stand up in front of your projector and we all can clearly see the thirst for BBC being lit on my chest from the light of your mind
Has anyone figured out what would be a good arch-militant build?I was think generic bonuses like Voidborn combined with the stacks from crime lord would be good, but perhaps mixing melee world(like death world or forge) and shooter origin(lmperial guard) might be interesting. Would a psyker option actually benefit?
>>3280255>refusingIt's always the little words you add to make it seem worse than it is
What's the lore explanation for Cassia risking her life by going on missions with you?
>>3280262>post factual picture of her shit ending>you start ranting about black cockYou're the one projecting you fucking weirdo.>>3280268She does refuse. She doesn't live with you. Oh sorry, it's not that she refuses it's that she declines to accept!
>>3280274I can't protect her with protagonist powers if she's on the ship
>my waifu this...>your waifu that...>my waifu is...>your waifu is...Modern day RPG discussions are great. Nothing to talk about but some really terribly written romances.
>>3280207No. She's easily the worst character Owlcat ever made. She's not interesting or enjoyable to interact with in any way shape or form.
>>3280199Two years. Only two years for the Actually Finished Edition to come out.
>>3280207Jae would've been tolerable if her accent wasn't grating and they chose a better angle for her portrait. Surprisingly for a Rogue Trader game there aren't many human companions who are dubious and self interested. I liked this aspect of Jae because she's an illegal trader who spends all of her time getting drunk and high and doesn't really care much about the Empruh in a sea of companions who, for the most part, are extremely loyal to the Imperium. It's a shame that they fucked so much of the rest of her character up that.
>>3280542Imagine saying this when Nenio exists
>>3280220>he wanted to romance AmiriUhhh, why? She's one of the worst companions in Kingmaker.
>>3280274Play the game and find out. All of it was pretty straightforward in Beta.
>>3280584Nenio was completely insufferable for different reasons but at least she was consistent. Jae is all over the place. She's a former guardsman, plus an illegal trader, plus Indian representation. And unlike a smugler trope of helping you get into areas you otherwise wouldn't be able to, she provides fuck all with her connections since you're a Rogue Trader and you already have access to more connections than she does.
>>3280594Damn she has a profession AND she's indian? That's just too much
>>3280263>Has anyone figured out what would be a good arch-militant build?Multiple ways to do that. You can either go Warrior for first architype and have a gun as your backup and/or second slot weapon(s) and use melee as primary or go Marksman and use a different ranged weapon type (like flamers or melta's) as your backup while having standard ballistic weapon or a bolter or laser as your primary. For the latter I would recommend Forge World and for the former either Death World, Fortress, or Imperial World should work. Void Born isn't really helpful for either of these because Willpower is only useful for Officers and Psyker and Intelligence is only useful for Operatives, and having a negative to Strength is a huge drawback especially if you want to use Power Armor as early as possible. >Would a psyker option actually benefit?For aggressive psykers doing a Vanguard or Assassin would probably be better than Arch-Militant since your stats would be less spread in order for it to be viable. Having to juggle between Weapon Skill, Ballistics, Strength, Toughness, as well as Agility, Perception, and Willpower means your build is going to be exceedingly mediocre and underwhelming.
>>3280594>She's a former guardsman, plus an illegal trader, plus Indian representationActually Greybor is the worst character>Former family man>now an assassin>manlet representation
>>3280651Nah Greybor was fine for what he is. He's a piece of shit who only cares about money and he was introduced as a joinable companion so late into the game that if he didn't fit your KC it was reasonable to just not hire him. Nenio is the only wizard companion in the game and has 20 int and was introduced so early that the only reason you wouldn't Nenio is if you're playing a wizard yourself. For Jae if you don't like her and didn't pick Leader then you're stuck with Cassia's suboptimal Leader abilities because they compete with her assload of Navigator powers.
>>3280627I see. I think I will go melee primary with ranged backup. Warrior, imperial world for huge strength bonus and getting heavy armor early. Thanks for the breakdown
>>3280207One of Russian mods from they discord loves her.
>>3280661I was joking autist, the logic of "she changed professions once and is a minority therefore she's all over the place" makes no sense
>>3280663No prob, sounds like a great build.
>>3280671>Pasqual is tech priest who's motivated by knowledge>Argenta is Argenta>Idira's a psyker from outside the Imperium>Ulfar's a space wolf>Jae is a no longer guardsman who's also a cold trader who has no valuable connections who's presented as being outside the Imperium but isn't. Jae feels all over the place and confused. She's not a very consistent character. Even how she is in combat is inconsistent because she doesn't know whether to be melee, sniper, or backup ranged.
>>3280707Jae is the one who lies and had a recent career change. More so than the rest. It's not that weird or inconsistent narrative wise. The role is a valid complaint, since she was just a straight marksmam with pistols before. I guess they wanted an extra leader and not be outclassed by Argenta
>>3280757>It's not that weird or inconsistent narrative wiseIdk, I feel like she lacks a place. If they wanted her to feel more like an outsider to the Imperium then they shouldn't have made her a former guardsman and just done what they did with Idira with having her be from outside it, and if they wanted her to be more inside the Imperium yet dislike it they shouldn't've had her have all of these Indian phrases that no one in the Imperium uses as terminology.
>>3280199add 365 days to that because it takes a year for owlcat games to be playableby the time they're fixed there's also usually a 50% off sale so that's nice
>>3280584I'm surprised people don't like nenio, she was funny
>>3280795She was unbelievably cringe worthy.
>>3280795>she was funnyI disagree
>>3280795I do not hate her as much as some people do, largely because the rest of the party and NPC dunk on her/do not take her seriously.But her quest being tied to Enigma means the payoff is walled behind bullshit
>>3280795I would tell you to go back to r*ddit but she's divisive at best even there
>>3280807Might be a low IQ thing then where retards can't handle her
>>3280901She is not smart, she spits trivia tier facts but doesn't say a single intelligent or thoughtful line in the whole game
>>3280951Wow, she truly said the most basic bitch shit even a high schooler could tell youHow truly high IQ of her!Also she is wrong, in pathfinder divine providence is completely scientific.
>>3280951>she says this in a world where gods are not only confirmed real but also empower their worshipers regularlyLol, lmao even.
>>3280199>Only 17 days for CRPGs to be savedThey're already saved, betrayer.
>>3280958It's so stupid and I hated this about Kingmaker too. You have modern redditisms in a fantasy world where gods comes down and meet with people and religion is a super big part of people's lives. It made Valerie's arc just cringe because her whole thing is that she wanted to be a knight but instead of just joining a different paladin order (like Iomedae or something else) she just spends all her time complaining about her previous order.
>>3280207This, WHAT WERE THEY THINKING?
>>3281018>where gods comes down and meet with peopleYou should stop taking the few times that happens in WotR as the norm, gods do that very rarely>. It made Valerie's arc just cringe because her whole thing is that she wanted to be a knight but instead of just joining a different paladin order (like Iomedae or something else) she just spends all her time complaining about her previous orderBecause she's an atheist yes, and please don't ask the retarded of >hurrr how can you be an atheist when gods are confirmed to exist???
>>3281018Valerie's overall writing aside, I would not worship 99.9% of the gods of DnD and adjacent pantheons.I pick the most milquetoast inoffensive neutral good option for the occasional cleric pick
>>3281028What i mean is that it's just stupid because you have deities like Gozrah who will smite you for not making enough sacrifices or just because and yet there are people who openly blaspheme like Valerie. Like in ancient Greece people would refrain from even mentioning Hades name for fear he would appear. If you live in a world where that many gods influence your daily life then you aren't gonna be hyper anti-religious in that way.
>>3281036Pathfinder isn't ancient Greece. The gods are in a constant cold war where they're not allowed to do anything out of fear that another god will take that as a free pass to do anything they want, particularly the evil oneswhich makes Shelyn being so fucking obsessed with a woman that wants nothing to do with her even worse, but that's another thing entirely
>>3281043Messing with a mortal who is not a follower of another god ranks pretty low in the 'do not fuck the world tapestry' or whatever, but yeah. You coudl say it's the paladin order which is a bit too petty and Shelyn may be more angry with how Valerie disparages all beauty and art and uses the scar and confrontations as a teaching method, but still
just as a friendly reminder the Navigator gene is recessive, meaning all your children with the fishwife will be normal humans>b-but she'll turn into a mutated blob!yeah, in 400 years long after you're long dead and she's a great-great-grandmother>b-but the Navis Nobilite would never let you marry one of their navigators!you have a piece of paper from signed by the Emperor himself that says you can do whatever the fuck you want, so they can suck it>b-but she has gillsthat's a plus
>>3281053none of this changes the fact that she's a filthy mutant
>>3281053BasedTotal Cassia Impregnation soon brothers
>>3280199OP is a goyslop slurping faggot as usual.
>>3281053>>3281055>>3281056>>3281059She's taller than you. That means you're the bitch manlet in the romance. Same with the platonic trator whore. Then the only one who isn't a lanklet freak is a busted old pajeeta. Disgusting. All of them. Disgusting.
>>3281090I don't like tall women but it's okay, everyone has imperfections, I don't like short hair either
>>3281090>NOOO I CAN'T FUCK THE HOT WOMAN IT MAKES ME FEEL INSECURELook at this gay faggot and laugh
what are the words I can use to make sure people know I mean good RPGs like underrail or kenshi full of mystery and wonder and lovingly crafted environmental storytelling and not shitty fanfiction tier OC do not steal exposition simulators like owlcat and obsidian?I bought this garbage because 40k, but I expect 40k games to be garbage so it's ok. but it occurs to me something is wrong that such elaborate shit is possible.
>>3281123Make your own thread and ask there faggot
>>3281123>good RPGs like underrail or kenshi
>>3280199>savedfunny way to say "continue the status quo of mediocrity"
why are the portraits so FUCKING UGLY
imagine being such a loser that you get hyped for "romances" in video games written by some fat woman and/or faggot. bioware forever ruined crpgs by introducing this tripe.
>>3281154Romancechads own the CRPG genre, you lost
>>3281154it's even worse in this case because it's not some gay forgotten realms shit. it's fucking 40k and all these faggots can talk about is the romance options.
>>3280795I didn't think she was funny but going all the way with the dick inspection plot-line would have saved her character.
Please tell me it's not going to be 200+ hours long again.
>>3281162Hopefully it will be
>>3281162If it's good I wouldn't mind over 1000 hours
>>3281158Even without the romances these modern slopfests would still be filled with DEI characters so it's not much of a loss. Otoh, you're still a loser paying $60 to play as a woman (you're totally not gay or a tranny tho) that gets fucked by a fish.
>>3281169>play as a womanShe's straightHilarious how mindbroken retards that know nothing about the game come to cry about it. Can't you go shit up the /v/ thread? That's what the board is for
>>3281148You're right of course, Underrail isn't good, it's merely one of the greatest CRPGs ever released. I'm sorry you got filtered anon.
>>3281210This. Owlcucks talking shit about Underrail is fucking hilarious
>>3281162I feel like it will be shorter than their past games, we've got five acts, the last one doesn't even have an achievement and act 3 is just the deldar city
Did Owlcat run out of money when they ran to Cyprus
>>3281255So, like how WotR had five acts and act 4 was the demon city?and yes it had six acts but the last one was a short ass dungeon who cares
>>3281053>meaning all your children with the fishwife will be normal humansI dont know if thats a positive or negative frankly. Navigators are valuable resource for Imperium and my RT lives to serve the Emperor
>>3281090You can always pick female RT and romance Pasqal
>>3281162>>3281255RT will be shorter since Colony management is less of a timesink than Kingdom/Crusade management and Pathfinder's "reused single map w/ random patch of enemies" style of side location design is noticeably absent this time around.
>>3281275Pasqal isn't romanceable.
>>3281272>Navigators are valuable resource for ImperiumAnd they also have the problems inherit to psykers. Half your staff goes insane simply because Cassia is on board the vessel. Having human non-navigator children is a blessing from the empruh, even if navigators are a necessity.
Honestly am I one of the few who cares not for romance and just wants to purge xeno. Are the threads just fuelled by romancefags?
>>3281341>Are the threads just fuelled by romancefags?Sadly. This wasn't nearly as bad as the romancefags in Alpha threads.
>>3281341>Are the threads just fuelled by romancefags?Until people can get their hands on the game and properly theorycraft, yes.
>>3281341since no streamer anons have given us any files we have nothing to talk about
>>3281375Why the fuck would e-celebs waste their shill privileges giving this shithole the beta?
>>3281377they wouldn't. it's why we don't have it.
Poll timeWhich originhttps://strawpoll.com/eNg69V8oLnAWhich homeworldhttps://strawpoll.com/PbZqRe96GyNWhich romancehttps://strawpoll.com/XmZRx4rJ3nd
>>3281028>>hurrr how can you be an atheist when gods are confirmed to exist???Simply by being anti-theist.
>>3281405You will never be bad person.
>>3281405>people (more than 0) voted for JaeBut why
>>3281544Cause she HOT a What Baabhabhiat
>>3281544>Uggo fish mutant who acts like a spoiled child>Androgynous alien chick who fucks you over>Pretty Spaniard ladywow! tough decisions!!
>>3281405I don't like answering polls.Romance: NoneOrigin: I will decide when I create my characterHomeworld: I will decide when I create my character
>>3281544All those votes is single owlcat discord mod with VPN.
>>3281405>jae with the same votes as Cassia or YrlietLiterally how>>3281583At this point it's either this or anons shitposting
>>3281058>she's a filthy mutantSANCTIONED mutant so she's alright
>>3281210>>3281226sure, it's filtering in the same way eating a plate of liquid shit us filteringbut if that's what you fags enjoy, there's plenty of shitrail threads for you to fuck off back to and seethe about it
>>3281590a highborn mutant is still a mutant HOWBEIT
>>3281405you should have added the SOB so just we could mine faggots of their tears and give them false hope
what's with Owlcat making cool tomboys and then dabbing on people by making them unromanceable?
>>3281405>11 votes for jae
what would br the best build/advanced archetypes for Marksman focused on burst bolter and max dmg brehs?
>>3281028>How can you be an atheist when gods are confirmed to exist?How though?
>>3281653I prefer bounty hunter. Her job is ranged death.She wears middle armor and survives what sneaks through cover. I do not think her origin helps for arch-militan enough as well.Plus, Ulfar will be arch militant, so it helps differentiate them enough to fit both in the party
>>3281650>16 total votes for origins>15 total votes for homeworld>30 total votes for romances, most of them for JaeI'm calling BULLSHIT and HERESY on this one
>>3281405>Naval Officer that lowPeople just don't want to choose the lesser of two weevils.
>>3281650Jae-chads can't stop winning
>>3281659By actually reading what an atheist is in Pathfinder
>>3281058>filthy mutantCute mutant
>>3281758I will call the mutant cuteshe will blushI will be happy
>>3281405>Pajeeta got the 2nd placeYou people are mentally not well
>>3281405Where were you when reddit was more based than this shithole?
>>3281563>>Uggo fish mutant who acts like a spoiled childI love Cassia personality, she is innocent yet still feisty when need arises. A sheltered space princess, how can anybody NOT like that?
>>3281817>first Cassia>second Yrlietit's the exact same order as in here and the jaefag spamming votes doesn't change a thing
>>3281817Where's none? Because that's the only based option.
>>3280207you'd figure they would have learned from wrath. but they don't even have the excuse of premade characters here
why is the navigator allowed off the ship? into combat? wouldn't it be very fucking bad if she died.
>>3281930We can just eyeball it matey, don't worry
>>3281738I read up on thatfrom the PF wiki>Atheism is the rejection of the gods. Rather than outright disbelieving in gods whose existence is a matter of hard fact, atheists in Golarion instead deny that the gods are truly divinefrom religion and faith supplementary book>On Golarion, “atheism” usually denotes the belief thatthose beings commonly called “gods” are not worthy of theauthority and reverence bestowed upon them by others.Atheists rarely doubt the existence of deities, and generallyacknowledge that deities are very powerful beings, butdeem them no more than that. Instead of gods, they tendto revere ideals such as goodness or freedom, philosophiessuch as the Prophecies of Kalistrade or diabolism, ornothing in particular. Though some scholars argue thatthe term “atheist” is incorrectly applied to these people—preferring terms such as “dystheists” or “misotheists”—such distinctions are lost on a generally religious society,and most accept the more common term.alright you got us there, turns out you shouldn't read "atheist" when dealing with PF, you should read ""atheist"" but in the long run it still shows how poorly thought out PF setting is
>>3281563>SpaniardShe's from Mumbai
>>3281817>all those votes for the "platonic" sexless whoreSimpery isn't based. She'll fuck deldar but she refuses to fuck you. That's just Reddit's fetish.
>>3282015>Could complain about how people simp for a traitor>Cries about his imaginary cuck fetish instead
>>3282018What the fuck do you think platonic means, retard? What the fuck do you think it means to be tortured by deldar?>Sure she was tortured but it was explicitly innocent non-sexual torture which is what drukhari are known for!Dumb cunt.
>>3282040Is it cucking if they insert swords in her vagina? Do eldar have a vagina?
>>3282040So you're complaining that she won't fuck you, while also blaming her for supposedly fucking the deldar, even though in this scenario she would obviously have been raped?
>>3282049Obviously.>>3282050Where the fuck do you think you are, bitch? Resetera?
>>3282054Most empathetic purityfag
>>3282040>getting raped without your consent is cuckoldry Actual room temp IQ. Might as well argue that if thieves break into your house and steal your PC while you were away and your gf was there that she "lent" your computer to strangers. You're unironically trying to argue that Yrliet cucks the RT by being held down and forcibly raped by deldar without her consent.
>>3282049Eldar are birds, so in the lore they have a cloaca
>>3281635Dating tomboys is gay. You basically want a boyfriend if you want a tomboy.
>>3282070this is trannycope
>>3282078Trannies are tomboys though who were brainwashed into being troons. That's the story of every ftm.
>>3282064Are you fucking retarded? Do you think these are real people and the events happen in real time? You think this is a fucking documentary? Dumbass.>Owlcat wrote a romance character that's "platonic" and won't have sex>Also wrote her to get gangbanged by the crack addicts she sold you out toWhy even have her be platonic and refuse sex when she's obviously getting dicked? Just not by the dumb fuck who romances her LOL
>>3282095You're the fucking retard, faggot. Her ROMANCE is sexless. She's a whire because she fucks everyone EXCEPT the RT. Stupid fucking faggot.
>>3282097>>Also wrote her to get gangbanged by the crack addictsGood thing that doesn't happen eh
>>3282097This is just incel cope, unironically. Imagine getting legitimately jealous towards a rapist for raping your love interest instead of the proper response of taking a 12 gauge to his skull.
>>3282100>She's a whire because she fucks everyone EXCEPT the RTIn your fanfic scenario she doesn't fuck everyone, she gets raped, you know, non consensually, because she doesn't want itCuckniggers are so mentally ill
>>3282100>being raped without your consent means you're a whoreYou're sub 30 iq. Like holy shit dude stop watching porn.
>>3282100You are beyond saving, literally mind fucking broken>>3282106Do we even know this? It's the first time I read this though I only played the alpha
>>3282109She isn't raped, no, it's just this guys head canon, she is horribly tortured like all of the rest of your crew by the Dark Eldar, though.
>>3282102Comorragh you fucking idiot>>3282104Again, are you fucking stupid? Do you unserstand that this is a game with written scenarios? Do you understand the writers choose what they write? Do you fucking COMPREHEND that choosing to write a "platonic" romance character that gets fucked by other characters is fucking retarded? You're some kind of aphantasia motherfucker. You are so fucking dumb you can't even wrap your head around the concept.
>>3282114>she is horribly tortured like all of the rest of your crew by the Dark Eldar, though>Sure she was tortured but it was explicitly innocent non-sexual torture which is what drukhari are known for!
>>3282116So if you were raped then you would celebrate your loss of virginity? >muh it's a game written by writersOkay and? All of your entire party gets tortured on Comorragh, even the RT. Legitimately what is even your point? Are you cucking Yrliet because deldar rape your MC as well?
>>3282104>>3282106>>3282108>RAPE RAPE RAPE SO HORRIBLE RAPE RAPE RAPEYou fucking retards, holy shit. This is about Owlcat WRITING a romance character that doesn't have sex with the protagonist she's romancing while also WRITING that she gets fucked by other people. Choosing to WRITE that retarded shit. You all acting like some real person got raped with your performative Discord leftist moral outrage is fucking cringe.
>>3282124Again, are you cucking Yrliet because deldar rape the RT as well?
>>3282124>while also WRITING that she gets fucked by other peopleSee >>3282102
>>3282122>hurrdurr u virginDiscord troon confirmed. Holy shit. Just go back to le thumbs up reacting wholesome LGBT art in the Owlcat Discord you fucking freakshow.
>>3282118Yes, it explicitly was, every single companion gets a fully detailed description of the type of torture they underwent so you can fully appreciate the horror of the Drukhari. If you had actually played the beta rather than inventing things in your own mind about the game, you would know this.
>>3282128>Sure she was tortured but it was explicitly innocent non-sexual torture which is what drukhari are known for!
>>3282130>so you can fully appreciate the horror of the DrukhariThe explicitly innocent non-sexual horror of the Drukhari. Terrifying.
>>3282129You didn't answer my questions but dodged them because they're difficult. I will accept your concession.
>>3282139>I will le accept your concessionYou are an absolute faggot.
>>3282142>more dodging, combined with seethingGlad to know you agree with me.
>>3282132>>3282134Yeah? They need pain to fuel their souls, not vaginal penetrationAlso there are exact descriptions of the torture and it doesn't involve anything sexual, you fucking retard. If you think its not immersive it's your coombrain's problem because what you are talking about is NOT in the game
>>3282145I didn't agree with you. I called you a faggot. Which you didn't deny???
>>3282147>Deldar were never about sex and they've never been about sex it's just about souls okay?!>Slaanesh was never about sex and never has been about sex they/them's just about souls okay?!Sure pal
>>3282149You agreed with me because you never refuted any of my statements but just got mad and resorted to labeling. >f-faggotProjection. And no I am not a sodomite, unlike you.
>>3280248>>3282015You faggots really like to make cuck fantasies to get mad at huh?
>>3282154If they don't watch cuck porn, how else are they going to live out the fantasy of having a relationship?
>>3282153>You agreed with me because you never refuted any of my statements Is that what counts for agreeing in your schizo mind, troon?
>>3282159So answer my questions instead of dodging them if you don't agree with me.
>>3282153>resorted to labelingDiscord troon confirmed.>And no I am not a sodomite, unlike youI'm not a sodomite, troon. Go dilate you fucking freak.
>>3282163You didn't deny you were a troon??? That means you admit it by the way.
>>3282165So you continue to dodge and label instead of making actual arguments. Yeah, real convincing stuff you got there lol.>t-troonYeah last time I checked trannies are the ones who obsess over cuckolding in video games.
>>3282174>still doesn't deny being a troonHMMMM
>>3282178>>3282170Got it so not only are you low iq but you're also a tranny.
>>3282183I'm not a tranny. Weird how you won't deny being one THOUGH.
>>3282187I am not a tranny.
>>3282189Are you a jew?
>>3282187So if deldar rape your RT does that mean you cucked Yrliet or not? You still haven't answered this btw and have devolved into mud slinging and dodging because apparently this is a difficult question.
>>3282152I never said they never had nothing to do with sexBut if you think having penis in vagina sex is what the deldar do to keep slaanesh at bay you are retarded. They explicitly need the highs of extreme pain Also the game explicitly describes there was no sex involved and you are still unable to argue against that.
>>3282191Nope and that's not relevant to the discussion.
>>3282193So you are a jew. Gottem.
I usually play evil routes because >good is boring and also I love corruptionkino. Imperialis actually seems like it might be quite based though. Not sure what to go for first (and probably only) playthrough.
>>3282199>didn't readAlso you never denied allegations that you're addicted to cuckold pornography, which is affirmation that is is a problem you suffer from.
>>3282204I'm not a cuck, jew.
>>3282205I'm not Jewish and I denounce Talmud. You dodge and shift blame as much as the average kike though so I wouldn't be surprised if you were Jewish lol.
>>3282204Anon, YOU never denied being a cuck. By these rules, you are a cuck.
>>3282208I'm not a jew, cuck.
>>3282209Okay, I deny being a cuck. So if deldar rape your RT did you cuck Yrliet or not? Simple question.
>>3282203Imperialis is fitting warhammer wise and has good gameplay bonuses
>>3282211Immediately denounce the Talmud.
>>3282216I denounce the Talmud, cuck.
Wow, this thread sucks ass nowWhat's wrong with cuckposters? Why were jews even mentioned?
>>3282221Alright, answer the questions then.
>>3282224Why are you a cuck? You never denied it.
>>3282222Oh, so that is what is going on. I wondered why there were so many hidden replies within the hour. I usually assume frogs/wojak
>>3282229I already denied it. Do you lack reading comprehension? >>3282213
>>3282229Just answer the question. It's not difficult.
>>3282222It's the natural consequence of leftist LE ACCEPT YOUR CONCESSION IF YOU DON'T ACKNOWLEDGE ME WAAAAAHHH pseudo-intellectual bullshit. They/them learned debate in uni where everyone had the same opinions on everything, they'll have you know!
>>3281679>>3281650I told you, it's all just one of owlcats mods, who simps for her, with VPN, lmao.
>>3282625>the level of cope
>>3282631>NO TRUST ME 4CHANNEL LOVES JAEYou can't honestly believe that, probably some retards having fun by voting for the one nobody likes
>>3282633you'd be surprised.
>>3282635Post your /vrpg/ Jae fanclub discord then
>>3282662I don't have one because I don't use discord.
Turn based saving CRPGS?Turn based is cool ranch and RTWP is buffalo sauce.
>>3282715>comparing game styles to chicken wingsRTWP grugs really are the lowest of iq.
>>3282715I like both
>>3282867Me too. Shitposters just need some nom nom
>>3281627Navigator houses get mansions on Terra, people who say "muh mutants" get shot by their commissar for cowardice
>>3281817we have many mentally ill contrarians here
>>3282715>RTWPjust die already you god damn fossil
>cuckfaggot switched to Yrliet for baiting>it works like a charm
>>3282715I prefer spicy jam
>>3280945no shit that's part of the jokeshe's endearing the same way jan jansen is
>>3282715can i have a pizza instead?
So initial plan was to make a death world pyromancer warrior.But now, I think Forge world might be something to consider. Cause Forge world has a talent that makes you unable to fall prone wile wearing heavy armor(plus boosting deflection).And Pyromancers can get this eventually
>>3283026Granted, this is for hereticus path alone, but I feel consequence free +20 on everything is just retarded. It might make forge+Hereticus optimal
I'm going to hold hands with a dirty xeno traitor and nobody will stop me.Fuck, I need this game to clean off the bad taste that BG3 left in my mouth, thank God I still have NWN OC to finish. Going Benevolentia with a tinge of Imperialis because fuck heretics, Girlyman will be proud of me. By the way, is the cuck autist same guy who spammed WotR threads with "SHE DOESN'T EVEN LIVE WITH YOU" retardation? Sound like him for sure.
is it as gay and pozzed like wotr?
>>3283058As much as kingmaker too, yes.There are black people, women have important roles and there are bi romances.All the downfalls of modern society
>>3283055>Going BenevolentiaIt's going to screw you over cuz grimdsrp.
>>3283063Even if the waves of fate crush against you, you stand firm
>>3283026i was also planning death world heretic for gigamelee since they have no lightning psyker powers but nevermind that might just be better for a heretic run
>>3283063I'm not going to be stupid about it, friend. Blatant dangers to Imperium are getting a bolter to the face. If someone stabs me in the back hard (I played beta and know about Yrilet's betrayal, but I get Space Marine and some dead Drukhari out of it, so it's cool in the end by my book), they get BLAMmed. If someone fails me after being given a chance to repent, Heinrix gets a new toy. Expect the best, prepare for the worst.
>>3283026>>3283028You'll only be able to use this Hereticus power near the start of act 4 at the earliest due to the consistency of choices needed to get all the way up to Fanatic rank. Basically for most of the game you won't be able to get the benefit of immunity to prone combined with being able to buff all your characteristics with no drawback. Tbqh I don't think it's worth it to choose a Homeworld solely for removing the negatives of an ability that is acquired so late in the game.
>>3283191Forge world is still strong for a heavy armor melee I feel, so it's not like you are just making an endgame build. You get good value from the get go, whetehr you pick subskin armor or crit boost
>>3283195That's true but the Hereticus perk isn't really the biggest factor to consider when choosing homeworld. Also Death World has really good tanky options as well. One thing I do wonder with a Forge World Pyromancer is if the ability that makes you deal more damage with flamers and meltas also applies to your Pyromancy abilities. I'll have to look at the wording on that again.
>>3283199Good thinking about the damage type. I do wonder if Imperial homeworld is also a good choice for melee pyromancer.Since I want to have strength fpr heavy armor and melee and a decent willpower, having a huge boost to one stat with no drawbacks may fill your requirements quickly. And boosts against xenos and daemons will apply no matter what, and they are usually the most dangerous enemies
>>3283204Checked and it doesn't sadly. Fires of the Forge though has interesting stacking with Pyromancer abilities since it gives you a higher deflection bonus to burn based on Toughness, and Pyromancers have a couple features that give you buffs while burning. This works really well for a melee Pyromancer since you can rush into a crowd of enemies, have one of your companions use a flamer on you plus the crowd, which then buffs you for a few rounds upon which the negatives are easily negated because of your high burn deflection.
>>3283223Yeah, I am glad that my crazy man burning through the Expanse experience seems to be supported decently.
>>3283228yeah while i'm not hugely enthused by the psyker powers not having all the disciplines i want, its a special kind of Kino to be a nutcase pyromancer who sets himself on fire for shits and giggles
>>3283173>spoilerBased. Results comes before intentions.
This is a small thing, but I really like the names and the abilities for the Origins.Like, Commisar or Noble skill list is essentially RP direction in itself.
>>3283259Heinrix get new toy? You mean Yrliet?
I have literally no experience with 40k related rpg systems. Can you do a melee psi user here? Is is strong?
>>3283511>Can you do a melee psi user here?Anon, every human psyker goes melee.
>>3283511You can, yes. There are even melee weapons that get benefits from your psi rating.You can see a few posts above you discussing how a pyromancer can get a melee build going. One of your companions is essentially melee biomancer build
>>3283511Yes, it's very strong. Punching out a demonic tank kind of strong.
>>3280199cannot wait for 15h of somewhat interesting stuff and 80h of slow, boring, filler combat + a gimmick of the year, this time... clunky/boring/annoying ship battles! bing bing, wahoo...
I know for a fat that my homeworld is going to be a Forge World because the Mechanicus is fucking cool. But I don't know what origin to pick.Assuming I pick the enhanced crit Forge World talent, that means I'm probably going to do Operative/Assassin. What origin would make me as close to a Sicarian Ruststalker as possible?
>>3283649I actually think you should go warrior /assassin. More bonuses for movement and standard damage.
>>3283649>I know for a fat
>>3283649>What origin would make me as close to a Sicarian Ruststalker as possible?Didge tank. So you'd want to do Warrior -> Assassin since Operative is more of a sniper/debuffer. For background likely Crime Lord.
>>3283719I attempted to fix the female version with AI a bit so she had less weird tubes and bruising on her face
>>3283982>didn't make her fatSo you wasted how many hours to get zero results, got it
>>3283997It took like five minutes
>>3283982Can you make Jae less old and ugly?
>>3284007That's just Isabella from DA2
>>3283982I personally only have an issue with the left tube that goes into her left cheek for some reason.
>>3280199Not an RPG.
>>3284152Improvement but that hair just doesn't work.
Give it to me straight, anons who have played the beta: is this going to be a good game, and how long after launch should I wait to let the bugs get ironed out? Wotr was rough at release.
>>3284186Yes and maybe a couple of months, even the streamer version didn't have the last two acts, so I'm expecting it to be broken af
>>3284186It be decent.
>>3284186>turn based >slow combat>boring spells compared to WOTR (stormofjustice)>to many passive skills >rushed game>ugly female companions I give a 5/10.
>>3283719>>3283982Is there somewhere I can see all the portraits together instead of pausing some assholes YouTube video to get a good look?
>>3284254Here are some of them. https://roguetrader.wiki.fextralife.com/Origin
>>3284186I played the alpha and liked it, I think its going to be good
>>3284186it looks like it will be shorter and the game is less complex than others that came before. I expect it to be playable.
>>3284254New ones (but low quality) were posted here>>3257561
>>3283719He looks like he exclusively fucks xeno women.
priestess is the prettiest femPC
>>3284633I like FemHiver
>>3284647>jaw>boobs?>hip & shoulder rationo apple though, still..
>>3284697>>3284767I liked Valerie despite her jaw being responsible for 17 points of her con, sue me.
>>3284633She is not, and she look as mentally ill. Navy Officer is prettiests with Comissar very near her..
>>3284832>Fextralifewoe upon them, death to fextralife and the degenerates that run that desiccated shithole that masquerades as a wiki
>>3284186Yes and it'll be amazing
>>3284832the "good" route, whatever name that ends up being called in the final version, still seems so cucked because this is 40k. You're basically still under the influence of Chaos but without any of the benefits that serving it would bring.
>>3284857>You are so out of place in the universe, chaos itself is bewildered
>>3284832I'm going to be maxing hereticus while picking as many benevolentia options as possible when it comes to my own crew. Will I be condemning a planet to slaaneshi rule? Yes. Will I be taking on horrific mutations in service of eldritch powers? Yes. But the people making sure my ship is running smoothly WILL get fair treatment, reasonable working hours and also dental.
I can't decide between heretical or dogmatic/imperialis.... they both seem like they could be really fun.
>>3284857I did a mix of imperialis and benevolence and it worked okay. You can show compassion without being an idiot about it. However I was locked into benevolence in act 3 and that forced me into dialogue options such as being able to interpret clown rhymes for some reason and being forced into allowing the haemonculus to live. I hope there's more available dialogue options this time if they're going to do that,or I'll use toybox to open all options back up
>>3284873the only thing that the heretical path could offer you that would surpass your current power as a RT is daemonic ascencion, otherwise there really is no point unless you wanna rp the fanaticyou already hold a position at the top of the food chain and can freely treat people as a resource to be spent should you so desire
There will be some better thunder hammers in the game, right?
>>3284633I want Femmissar to be my dommy mommy...
>>3284953Granted but you have to earn it by killing more enemies of mankind than her on that deployment.
>>3284868based and same, though not just benevolentia for my crew, but also for the planets I govern. Sometimes it is simply easier to draw flies in with honey, especially if they would never consider it otherwise. Entire worlds will fall in service to the Dark Gods, though occasionally these people may get a few extra bottles of Amasec, the good quality.
>>3284879>you already hold a position at the top of the food chain and can freely treat people as a resource to be spent should you so desireHaving control over planets and galaxies isn't the same as warp powers though.
>>3284967>Having control over planets and galaxies isn't the same as warp powers though.Just play as a psyker and then you start out with some of those AND you're also a rogue trader and can do whatever you want.
>>3284976Or I could have my cake and then have cupcakes and whipped cream combined by being a psyker, going hereticus, and simply being a rogue trader. Why settle for less?
>>3284979Cause becoming the butt slave of chaos is a faggot move
>>3284983>t. butt slave of the empruh
>>3284983>>3284987Get the room, Buttslaves
what's a good SD model for making 40k portraits in a similar style as this game
>>3284832Imperialis, Dogmatic, Puritanwhatever they call it I'm going with itthe Hammer of the Emperor is about to fall lads
>We have a fucking space furry instead of a based Imperial Fist.At least the Dark Heresy game will give us a Black Templar, right?
>>3285029>based>imperial fistAt least you did not say Iron Hands
>>3285029>>3285037Raven Guard is objectively better than both
>>3285029Space Wolves are the best chapter of the Astartes. Cope and seethe.
>>3285029Hopefully we have a Chaos equivalent if we go full Hereticus
>>3285029>the Dark Heresy gamehuh?
>>3285185Assumptions that the next game will be based around the Inquisition
>>3284874> and being forced into allowing the haemonculus to live.Idk, i choose mix Imperialis and benevolence in beta, and shot Warp stabilizers in Act 3 with no problem.
>>3285029Why do you want to play Black Cuckplars so much? Did your father also disowned you. so you can relate to them?
>>3285375To be frank any loyalist marine is better than the damn space wolves.
>>3285586I would sooner deal with their fleas than rely on Iron Faggots or Limp Wristed Fists
>eye cover thing accidentally falls off in the middle of sex>your mind is instantly turned to mush because you weren't wearing a blindfold yourselfhere's your grimdark romance bro
>>3285608That only makes it hoter
>>3285608I love that artist>that pic he made of pregnant Cassiasoon my fellow Brothers of the Imperium, soon...
>>3285608That's just decoration. A Navigator has to consciously open their Warp Eye.
>>3285608>>3285632>>3285641>>3285669>>3285678Reminder that art is off-model though unless she's sitting down and RT is standing on a box. He's a fucking manlet compared to her.
>>3285686RT stands of Abelard backs to kiss Cassia
>>3285691I'm physically incapable of taking Abelard out of the party just to flex and force him to introduce me
>>3285718my wife and mother of my children: Cassia
>>3285729Hey buddy keep your hands to yourself, thats MY wife.
>>3285727I really based my decisions on what Abelard would approve. Like, I want that loyalty to feel justified.
>>3285744Based, i wouldnt want to disappoint Abelard either
>>3285727I often don't bring him because he's the only member of your retinue that isn't a drooling retard and knows how to run the damn ship.
>>3285744>>3285745the power of a father figure
Should've had an Imperial Knight in our retinue.
>>3285795>had giant robot in our retinueNot on frigate.
>>3285718based and navigatorpilled
Presented without further comment
>>3286024He got the message after his home and everyone on it got butchered.
>>3286024>Directly rejects genuine divinity when it's offered
>>3286036Doesn't matter in the end because the fanfiction that Lorgar wrote ended up becoming canon anyway.
>>3286024This only prove that Lorgar mentally ill retard, who simply cannot listen.
>>3286024funny enough even rowyourboat almost had a mental breakdown after even he admitied big e had to be a god to deal with this shit
All I'm saying is that there better be a daemon prince ascension ending.
>>3286169That would be vastly overstating your relevance to the warp, even if you're the favourite of a Lord of Change.
>>3286174Fuck what the warp thinks, kill the lord of change, devour him and become one yourself. Then keep killing and devouring other daemons until you're at a satisfactory powerlevel. Then return to your own personal fiefdom and enjoy life as the galaxy keeps fucking itself in the ass.
>>3286188Just as planned.Have fun being a chaos slave I guess.
>>3286065No it proves that the Empruh is an autistic sperg who doesn't understand how humans operate.
>>3286169anon a deamon prince is a slave to chaos gods hell if the chaos gods get bored they can outright turn said "prince" into a spawnchaos is evil in every sense of the word,chaos doesn't offer you freedom nor power it offers slaverly and illusions masked as freedom and power
>>3286245>chaos is evilYeah I know>it offers slaverly and illusions masked as freedomJust like the Imperium, but with Chaos you get superior aesthetics out of it. >nor powerlmao
>>3286256>Just like the Imperiumthe imperium is at least honest about it and even right about it as well and when you die you don't get fucking tortrured forever>nor power lmaokicking a puppy or an old man is not power,it's why chaos bitch boy(logar) who is the most "blessed" by chaos is running away from corax like a pussy -------------------And last being a RT you have even more freedom then a deamon "prince" ever will
>>3286256>Chaos you get superior aesthetics out of it.>Chaos gets superior aesthetics.Anon just adding fucking spikes to everything is not aesthetic.Say what you will but at least the Impirium understands how to properly dress.
>>3286261That's crazy bro.
>>3286264I will give you one thing: the dark templars have legitimately beautiful designs. But this game doesn't let you be a dark templar, so it doesn't matter. And spikes are indeed aesthetic I'll have you know.
>>3286273>dark templarTypo. But seriously, this gear here is top class and an absolute beauty. What a shame we're getting wolf mcwolfson instead.
>>3286273>>3286277I agree and also dislike the space varg, would like literally anyone else for the sake of a space marine. I'd love to have a Lamenter along.I maintain hope that we'll get a Dark Heresy game that allows us to chill with a Dark Templar.But back to the main topic, no spikes alone are not an aesthetic and chaocs is far too overly reliant on it. They should be more diverse.
>>3286261>the imperium is at least honest about it No they fucking aren't lol. They lie to you about everything and if you question it they turn you into a servitor or burn you alive. All humans are inherently damned to the warp because the Emperor isn't even a god, he's just a really powerful man. At least Orks and Eldar have actual gods, humans don't; chaos is their best option since it possesses actual divinity. The Imperium is a corrupt and failing bureaucracy that has no power to save people. Lorgar was 100% right.
>>3286285"Have faith,Word Bearer"
>>3286285To be fair the emperor does have power to grant miracles, and he does have his own realm in the warp, so he is definitely up there when it comes to divinity. However, any "heaven" or afterlife created and protected by him would be a reflection of the society that worships him.
>>3286292Somebody should kill Celestine and ask her what she sees before she comes back again.
>>3280199Their portraits have gone down in quality. Graphics in general did, too. I'm not sure about this one.
>>3286321>Graphics in general did, tooCharacter models, backgrounds and effs look much better in Rogue trader beta than the two pathfidner games to me. What was your issue?
>>3286292The problem is that the Emperor is a created being, not an uncreated being. The four Chaos Gods, Gork and Mork, as well as Khaine and Cegorach pre-date the species and societies they influence. Big E did not create humans, he's just a really powerful psyker (or I guess not so powerful anymore considering how he requires a gorllion souls a day in order to keep his life support going)
>Owlcat confirmed they had to decide between a cruiser and a frigate for a 10k year dynasty flagship and went for a frigateI'm still mad
>>3286352>The four Chaos Gods, Gork and Mork, as well as Khaine and Cegorach pre-date the species and societies they influenceWait they do? Werent they created by sentient beings (including humans) feelings or something? Or did the lore change yet again?
>>3286321Have you played Wrath? 90% of portraits in that game are of character concepts that nobody will ever use. Who the hell is going to play an orc crossbow lady in full plate or a gnome knight? Rogue Trader has actual portraits players will use.
>>3286361Anon.. the eldar existed before humans did, the Old Ones existed before humans did..
>>3286365I liked the fatass knight
>>3286372I said 90%, not 100%.
what are the odds argenta is fuckable on hereticus routei heard some copium about her being corruptable and unlocking a romance
>>32864790%I also don't even think she's corruptable, her personal quest involves finding the Saint Argenta shrine / downed ship and undergoing some sort of spiritual vision quest in it. Either she gets fancy power armour or the she can't even enter the ship and she copes by going full Repentia for disappointing the Saint or the God-Emperor or something
>>3286479Give it a rest waifunigger
>>3286479A man can dream, too bad that owlkeks will never implement it
>>3286479>>3286489>Wanting to corrupt her to fuck herYou don't like nor deserve argenta
>>3286494>He wouldnt dive head first into some Nurglussy
>>3286507>nurglussy>a rotting pustule of puss, acne and warts all merged together into a horrid monstrosity constantly excreting vapors yeah.. gonna pass on that
>>3286479>>3286481So.. I wonder what happens if you keep Argenta alive yet do a full Hereticus run. Does she leave the party? Does she stay and get corrupted? If neither what happens to her because presumably the whole Kronus Expanse has fallen to Chaos at that point and the RT is a mega fanatic.
Chaos is fucking gay
>>3286352>The four Chaos Gods>pre-date the species>The four
>owlcat announces a new SM companion>yfw it's a Lamenter
>>3286765The fuck is a lamenter?
>>3286767Hated by the universe
>>3286765HAHAHAHAHAH nothat thing is not getting into my ship or staying anywhere neeear my realm for that matter, I'll personally pay for his trip to anywhere else on the galaxy
If you had to choose between an ork or a kroot companion which would you pick
>>3286782Probably kroot, I feel like they'd have to tone down an ork so far to fit him into their narrative that it wouldn't be fun anymore.
>>3286767They're basically a dedicated army of Space Marines that exist to valiantly save the citizens of the Impirium.They also die by the fucking bucket load. Often is horrible ways that should make your skin crawl.They are really, really sad as an existance and I personally love the taxi marines for it.
>>3286767they are the clostest thing the setting has to pure good guys sadly every-fucing-one is out there to screw them over
>>3286295There's literally a whole book about that. It's Celestine: The Living Saint. If I remember right, whenever she dies, she wakes up at the bottom of a mountain of skulls, without armour, weapons or memories and has to relive her death while fighting and reclaiming parts of her soul until she makes a promise to the emperor to return to the real world to protect humanity, she then gets spat out whereever she's needed
>>3286782Hard choice, i want to kill them both equally.
>>3286782OrkBut what i really want is Skitarii or Tempestus Scion
>>3281090i'm short irl so i'm used it it
>>3286952>Tempestus Scionfuck off
>>3286782Kroot definitely. Orks are even more uncontrollable and dangerous than Dark Eldar and their poop and dead skin turns into more Orks, don't want them on my boat.
>>3286782they're both shitters but the Kroot is definitely a lot less shitthat being said if they do add more companions with DLC I'd like to see an Assassinorum companion I love those creepy bastards
>>3287179>Le edgy leather BDSM gimpsPlease G-d no, we have enough of those with the dark elves
>>3286782Ork. Kroot are gay.
>>3286782Kroot. There has never been a bromance as pure as the one between Janus Draik, and Dahyak Grekh.
>>3287179>Le edgy leather BDSM gimpsPlease God yes, we don't have enough of those with the dark elves
So, based on the beta, what exactly is Theodora's deal?When I first came across her, dead, I connected some dots: That I could get into the warrant vault, that she apparently couldn't, and that she had a Tzeentch-related artificat laying around in her study. I surmised that she probably wasn't even of the von Valencia dynasty and just made a deal with Tzeentch or some shit to trick her predecessor into thinking she was a legit heir when she really wasn't.I bet she was being slowly snuck up on by the Inquisitor, who was probably ready to ask her to show her the warrant of trade to prove her legitimacy (Which she wouldn't have been able to do.), so that was her impetus to gather some REAL heirs in the first place. So she could have one of you open that shit and give it to her.The woman was just a straight up con artist from the start.
>>3287303Your theory doesn't hold up because Konrad can't get into the vault ether despite being of your bloodline. If your reasoning is that Theodora is an imposter to the Von Valancius dynasty because she never went down to the vault then that doesn't really hold up. The reason you're able to access the vault is because your blood is thin enough since you're a distant relative. Konrad and Theodora can't enter it because their blood is too thick from inbreeding and that's why Konrad forces you to enter it for him to begin with so he can steal the warrant.
>>3287303>what exactly is Theodora's deal?She's a chaos cultist that was readying the next phase of her plan before she got blammed, besides that she was a legitimately great RT and crated an impressive dynasty.
>>3287323Konrad doesn't mention he can't enter it of his own volition, he only tells you that when you ask about it because it's obvious. So he might be giving you a retarded lie. Second, he might be LITERALLY related to Theodora, and not a Von Valencian either: Since he's down with Tzeentch shit it's totally possible that him and Theodora both were never Von Valencians in the first place, which is why she trusted him to be her master of whispers: Who else but another Tzeentch guy are you seriously going to trust to make sure nobody ever finds out that you made a deal with Tzeentch to steal a rogue trader dynasty? I wouldn't have some regular loyalist in that role, that's for damn sure.She was definitely a chaos cultist along with Konrad. The only problem that arose is that typical chaos backbiting happened or else they would have gotten away with it. Dumbass betrayals and elaborate plots is kind of Tzeentches thing.If the main antagonist is Tzeentch demons, seriously sitting here and telling me that I should take anything at face value is absolutely retarded. He'd have a field day with your gullible ass.
>>3287325>and crated an impressive dynastyAre you kidding me? All her planets were either falling to chaos or xenos.Impressive dynasty my ass
>>3287323Not to mention, another thing: Her apparition appearing before you at the wall of fire.Assumed to be an illusion, but what if it's actually her doing some chaos sorcery? Presumably she was already dead, and as Indira mentions her soul should be somewhere in the warp, when you investigate her body.Which tracks with the sensation of some kind of "being" residing within your psyche after you wake up. She was probably trying to possess you or some shit.And again, another chaos lie that you just accepted out of hand because Tzeentch is the trickster douchebag god and you insist on falling for Tzeentch tricks.
>>3287343>All her planets were either falling to chaos or xenos.Sure but that's probably because of her being a chaos bitch, she died so her deals are moot and therefore her turf is free-reign again.However since you're here now, you can kick Chaos in the teeth and resume the proper governence of the systems.
>>3287338If Theodora is an imposter to the dynasty, why would she verify that you're of the bloodline and a legitimate successor? Why bother going through half the galaxy to find a legitimate heir when she could just put a cultist stooge as successor and lie about his origins? Theodora is obviously involved with Chaos but I doubt she's an imposter to the bloodline.
>>3287356Not that guy but she clearly intends to make you some sort of apprentice, saything that before she hands over the title and dynasty she wants to be sure if you can handle it.For all we know, this was detailing her plan to indoctrinate you as a cultist yourself to continue her missions and the like.Its pointless conjecture.
>>3287356I already answered that question. Because the inquisitor was breathing down her neck. She couldn't get into the vault to produce the warrant of trade and prove herself to not be an imposter, so she needed people with the actual real blood on her ship so she could have one of you open it.She has a one off line mentioning "ghosts" too when she's talking about the superstitions of the working class on her vessel as well, not taking them seriously and encouraging you to not take them seriously either. She doesn't want you reading into things deeper, she wants to either indoctrinate you slowly or keep you in the dark outright.Probably evidence of Tzeentch contamination, or possibly the ship's systems (That she couldn't assume direct, legitimate control over.) malfunctioning. Abelard even comments that he's absolutely confused when you're able to activate turrets he's never seen before. Presumably Theodora never did because she literally couldn't.
>>3287348Interesting thing about the apparition is that Argenta is the only companion who insists that it's not Theodora because she's responsible for her death. She can't have been entirely a warp entity because Abelard has been with her for ages. She must have been a real person at some point in time, but also if she's a really powerful sorcerer then how does Argenta, an inexperienced SoB manage to kill her?
>>3287363That's actually a fair point.
>>3287367Abelard never saw that Von Valencian servo-skull active either. None of the bloodline required shit was ever active under her leadership until you showed up.>>3287364She was probably just a normal human cultist who used an elaborate plot to assume control. More or less a normal human like any rogue trader, except when she died she had one final warp infusion from chaos demons to try and pull off some hail mary BS to try and regain some kind of control over things.I'm absolutely positive that she was illegitimate as fuck and it was only by some convoluted comedy of errors that things managed to go so wrong.The Changer of Ways that talks to you is all pissed off that you fucked things up by existing but says that you'll take the "last acolytes" place. As a player you might assume it's talking about Konrad, but he was probably referring to Theodora, because you quite literally did take her place.
>>3287363I feel like she and Conrad are part of the dynasty, in the beta the character creation seemed to confirm we were related to her distantly, but chaos corruption prevents them from being able to open the warrant chamber. If Nomos is an archeotech AI and not a daemon, it might be one of his functions
>>3287377I can't argue with you on that, because it might be true. The end result is the same either way though, Theodora couldn't access the systems a true heir could.
>>3287381For sure, I just feel like having them also not be Valanciuses makes it more convoluted then it needs to be but then>Tzeentch
>>3287374>>3287377I think I'm going to go with the idea that Theodora is of the Von Valencian bloodline unless in full release there's some document or dialogue tree that explicitly reveals that she isn't. I think the idea about her not being recognized by the vault due to Chaos Corruption seems to be the most plausible since Konrad's bullshit about "being too inbred" doesn't make any sense because it detects you via blood.
>>3287418He actually says he isn't recognised by the Sentinel because of Chaos>"On the contrary. The warp's blessing has raised me too much above your kind, von Valancius. The Sentinel refused to submit to me... but you can help — after all, isn't that what family is for?"
>>3287425Ah.. didn't know that.
>>3287363>Because the inquisitor was breathing down her neck.Are you trying you trying to tell me that Calcazar was investigating her for heresy rather than being involved himself? That nigga is the most suspicious character in the entire Koronous Expanse, he's 100% corrupted in some way. Him and his weird techpriest are going to the be the fucking villains, you can't fool me.
>>3287440Everybody strikes me as a chaos corrupted in this game. Lets not forget that Jimmy himself directly absorbs warp shit into his brain if you dont stop him. Other RTs are chaos tainted for sure, together with that priest guy advising on of the other RTs.
>>3287454It's best to operate on the basis that everything that can go wrong will and everyone else is a traitor or a fuckup
>>3280199>No YuriNo buy
>>3287440If you want a spoiler on his techpriestShe's related to Pasqal's personal quest
>>3287454It is pointed out how weird it is Winterscale apparently stops caring that his realm is fracturing, even when he's lost most of his ships in warp storms
>>3287496you can play as a pskyer,i have no idea what do you mean
>>3287496?The elf and wish.com Isabella knock-off are bi
>>3287454Argenta's priest is so Nurgle corrupted and all of her motivations stem from lack of purpose so I really honestly hope she can fall at some point in full release.
I want to dual weild two bolters to handle all this damn heresy.
>>3287534>Argenta's priest is so Nurgle corruptedEverybody keeps saying that but i didnt see even one thing hinting at it
>>3287544True, he is a standup fella
>>3287544His entire messages are centered around hopelessness. He keeps telling people to give into despair and that their lives are meaningless. When Argenta shows up to him for the first time he gives her no duties and just keeps prattling on about how none of it matters. If he was genuine ecclesiarchy he would be telling people to fight and die for the empruh and give Argenta shit to do because a SoB is a valuable resource.
>>3287551This guy looks pure as hell.I'm going to paranoid about everyone else, especially since the minions of Chen the Deceiver are about.But this dude gets a pass. I usually just walk around believing what people tell me, this guy especially so.
I wish the priests didn't have such a stupid fucking hat.
>>3287551he could be like the Deceiver from "Myth 2: Soulblighter" shady,untrustworthy,never sure if he tells you the truth except the "deciever" in myth 2 was on your side from the get go with no strings attached and the most loyal of them all right up his death
>>3287570Sure but did he really have to look like a crack wizard?
>>3287573the deciever looks like this and he is the most heroic of them all lmao
>>3287575I disagree since his motivation was apparently to spite the evil things he was working with previously.That said, he didn't deserve to an hero like he did.I would have liked more of my strangely heroic crack wizard.
>>3287551>Not bloated or leaking puss from any bodily orificeLooks good to me, no signs of Nurgle corruption
>>3287570myth in general is interesting. for example, moagim is a necromancer and looks jacked as fuck. being a spellcaster in myth doesn't really mean you have to be a robed wizard or anything. hell, avatara are well-rounded warriors.
>>3287551Hmm he is wandering around with Chorda and she was happy to starve Footfall
>>3287586>That said, he didn't deserve to an hero like he did.>>3287570>all right up his deathThe Deceiver didn't die, though. The journal for the next mission clearly states:>With The Deceiver in possession of part of his being, Soulblighter no longer has the ability to escape.Which points to him being still around. And you CAN finish "Shiver" without him exploding.
>>3287625This concept is one of the things borrowed from magic users in the "Black Company" series, which Myth is heavily inspired by - magic users are tough as nails, and the more powerful ones are near impossible to kill. "The Head" is a direct reference to The Limper, where he survived as a decapitated head after being "killed" twice, and constructed an artificial golem body for himself.
>>3280199On a closer look Cassia does seem to have pretty nice hips.
>>3287736her relatives certainly think so
>>3281053Wasn't there a theory that Octavia's kid with Septimus in the NL trilogy became Decimus and his navigator genes helped control his schizoid visions from Talos' Geneseed. Doesn't it mean that navigator/human kids still have some differences?
is having navigator daughters the ultimate cuckoldry?I cannot think or comprehend of anything more cucked than having a navigator daughter. Honestly, think about it rationally. You are feeding, clothing, raising and rearing a girl for at least 18 years solely so she can go and get ravaged by a rogue trader. All the hard work you put into your beautiful little girl - teaching her to control her powers, making her go to warp navigation practice, making sure she had a healthy diet, educating her, guarding her with all the security your House can afford. All of it has one simple result: her body is more enjoyable for the rogue trader that will eventually fuck her in every hole.Raised the perfect girl? Great. Who benefits? If you're lucky, a random man who had nothing to do with the way she grew up, who marries her. He gets to fuck her tight pussy every night. He gets the benefits of her kind and sweet personality that came from the way you raised her.As a Novator who has a daughter, you are LITERALLY dedicating at least 20 years of your life simply to raise a girl for a rogue trader to enjoy. It is the ULTIMATE AND FINAL cuck. Think about it logically
>>3287800I don't think there's much info on half-navigators other than the fact that they come out humans, not navigators
>>3287800There's a half-Navigator in the Atlas Infernal novel technically just a human but she's a powerful psyker / diviner. Although it doesn't specify if that's because of her navigator genes or because she snorts psychic space coke
>>3287820how is it cuckoldry unless your intention is to have sex with your daughter? Anon.. are you okay?
>>3287902Welcome to 4chan, remember, you're here forever.
They won't put it on winter sale right after the release, right? Right?
>>3284832I don't think iconoclast quite fits the idea here.. benevolentia was better
>>3288027It would have to sell 1/10th of what their previous games did in the first month or something. Unlikely
>>3288260I read somewhere it's supposed to match Dark Heresy fluff?
>>3288279>Owlcat Dark Heresy gameJust got hard thinking about it
>>3288295>GW took all their TTRPG's out back and gave them the ol' yeller treatment,They'd rather you stuck to space marines.
>>3288296Eh, if that was true Imperium Maledictum wouldn't basically be Dark Heresy with a modern coat of paint.There are a bunch of potential reasons floating around about why GW pulled the license from FFG, most of them related to FFG being aquired by Asmodee and getting more into miniature wargames.
>10 days leftGreat, I may be able to settle on the build in the meantime.If above all else one wants to be a commissar, what archetype and homeworld would be better?I had considered officer/hive, but it feels a bit too fragile to standing close to the frontlines. Deathworld would be more durable and help with melee, perhaps?Other option would be to to go full fortress world/marksman where I give a few basic buffs to others and just unload.If Abelard did not feel that role, I would have gone Forge/Death world warrior/vanguard and just not fucking die, but I want him on my Imperialis run all the time.
>>3288318I would argue Imperial World/Officer into tactician for a Commisar that isn't going into a fighter, just so you can make full use of all your allies.
>>3288322Imperial world feels pretty safe choice. I guess full fellowship boost and some sniper or plasma weapons?
>>3288333long las is never a bad option but you may wanna go solid rather than energy. As an officer you'll spend most of your time buffing everyone else but you shouldn't neglect your own meele effectiveness.Things are gonna come to try and kill you, so I reccomend a revolver and a force sword.
Maybe we will find Darven in Rogue Trader as well
>>3288318>>10 days leftMore like 10 days + 1 yearYou arent going to play it on release with all the bugs and unfinished content right?!
>>3288358I am the addict who has to get his fix and finds the bugs that get 'solved' a year later. I am the kind of loser who worked on the early kingmaker respec that had you upload your save file and adjusting values on a separate site and erased any equipped items plus reverted your model to default.
>>3287746Fishchads just keep winning.
>>3281053But she's ugly and also stupid
>>3288358Are you that guy that's still waiting to finally start WotR?
>>3288373eldar/jae hands typed this post
>>3288373She's cute AND smart (just autistic)
>Dev on the discord reveals the Rogue Trader can't wear power armour even though several companions dogod fucking damn it Owlcat how can you be so brilliant and yet so fucking retarded at the same time
>>3288453Its okay, if the RT wore power armour he'd be far too OP compared to everyone else.
>>3288458FUCK YOU I want to wear power armorFucking owlcat I swear, I hope visual adjustments comes out and it lets you wear it
>>3288458brother we fight Necrons and Chaos space marines, us having power armour isn't that deepESPECIALLY WHEN YOUR COMPANIONS CAN WEAR IT
>>3281053Why is Owlcat romance writing so reddit and pathetic?Yes I want to bang fishwife, but goddamn. Owlcat expects me to m'lady her with all these cringe as fuck lines right away.Can I fucking NOT do that and still get on the path later?
>>3288499>Calling someone beautiful after she starts getting self conscious from being a mutant is cringe cringe
>>3288499bro perople irl are way way way more cringe about this stuff
>>3288499>Anon cannot into courtly love and the sheer padgentry that it requires.
>>3281053Cassiachads really can't stop WINNING
>>3281053>400 years long after you're long deadyou do know as a RT you can actually buy immortality from various biomancers and with anti age treatments right?
We need more priests.
>>3288318Death World plus Warrior.
>>3288318>MeleeDeath World>RangedFortress World>PsykerVoidborn>Mixed/Unconventianal BuildForge WorldThe other worlds kinda suck. Can't even remember what they are off the top of my head other than Imperial World, which is unfathomably shit. YouTubers are pushing it as the "general purpose" world, but realistically speaking what they mean to say is that it sucks and they're pretending there's a silver lining.
>>3288966Void born is very good. 20% chance for better rerolls is a very good base effect. Giving a similar eff (fortune or misfortune based on target) with buff and debuff abilities is alsoood and you al get stronger crits. Using INT instead of FEL also allows for more unconventional builds. Imperial is +10 initial bonus on a stat with no drawbacks,and has full bonus to armor and crit against demons and xenos who are the most dangerous enemies and the party gets half of it. The only word that is kinda hard to suggest is hive world, since it is the only world that really demands a specific positioning to get the most out of it(though bonus to resolve and stacking movement points IS good).Honestly, out of al origins, archetypes and homeworlds, the only choice I feel is subpar is Navy Officer.
>>3288453One dev said that but on reddit, the community manager Starrok said otherwise
>>3288966>mfw I’m going to pick imperial world and go full puritan dogmatic imperialis because the Emperor protects
>>3289035Only thing I kinda dislike about imperial world is this talent>Doing My Part>If no other character in the current party is from an Imperial world, the first use of any of the character's archetype abilities costs −1 AP less.Most companions are. Less of an issue with full merc tea
>>3289034really? maybe the Kino is salvageable
I know there are many things that will be shit and the game will be borderline unplayable for months after release. Yet, for some fucking reason, the urge to preorder it has been growing in me recently. What the fuck? Why? I blame chaos gods.
>>3289125because they're fun
>>3289135Owlcat for all their games flaws i love them a lot, they are just fun CRPGS even if the side game is usually shit
>>3289034>One dev said that but on redditHe said it on discord
>>3289135But why wouldn't I just wait till they are actually playable? Pathfinders required luck to be able to finish them on release because there were so many game breaking bugs.
>>3289197WotR didn't unless you were unlucky enough to play lichAlso because I want to play the fucking game and i don't want to wait anymore
>>3289202I was playing a cavalier and was constantly getting stuck everywhere.
Gimme the quick rundown. What even is rogue trader? Is it still just imperium shit but MARY SUE tier? So now we have some space marines with plot device shit in RPG format? Can I be necrons? If not, its probably going to be shit. But prove me wrong.
>>3289255>mary sue retard supporter laughingImperium shit is so old bro. Everything that exists in 40k is just non-stop jobbing for imperium shit.
>>3289262Come on dude if you're going to try to bait you could at least put in the bare minimum effort.
>>3289266You are projecting. 40k is non-stop jobbing for everyone but the imperium. I can't blame gamesworkshop though. The fucking soi'd out whales are all space marine players.
>>3289251you play as a rogue trader
>>3286479that would be too based for this world
>>3288817Unfortunately there's just one portrait that fits a priest and he's wearing a big mask over his face. I still want to play a priest though. Maybe I can make the fat guy portrait work.
>>3289236I did the same and there is a wide gap between being annoyed and not being able to finish the game.
>>3289598there are more portraits coming, according to a dev to a person complaining about not enough black people
>>3289598I'm trying to use bing creator to make one for you anon... it's a work in progress...
>>3289631not pictured >a mutant giant robot lurking behind him>countless portraits of space marines even when I ask for no armour
>>3289631alternatively you could look for warhammer fantasy art
>>3289646or darktide art
>>3285302>>3285185>>3285029God I hope so. I found the perfect picture for an Inquisitor when I was hunting for Guardsman photos. Could also work as a priest in Rogue Trader I guess.
>>3289823well apparently the new conviction names>Benevolentia -> Iconoclast etc.are DH relatedit might be a sign
>>3289823>modern weaponthrow it back
>>3289823why is there smoke coming out of the filters of his gas mask?
>>3289853The mask is a cleverly disguised vape
>>3289853The guy are vaping.
>>3289853Look up the Chem-dogs guard unit.
>>3289876thats still not how gas masks work
>>3288453If this was dark heresy this wouldn't have been a problem. >>3288499Romance quests are wasted time for devs designed to suck in the simp crowd who need in game dialgoue with their waifus to feel arousal. If these quests were not in game you could just imagine your rogue trader with anyone. Its even stupider when you realize 90% of the playerbase will pick the fish.>>328925140k's main focus was always on humanity. If you don't understand what that means, you don't understand 40k
You can wear power armor, that whole "no powerarmor" turned out to be a miscommunication on the part of the discord dev.
>>3289970Forget power armor, i just want more armor models.Beta had like what, 2 types?
>>3289962The argument "you could just imagine xyz" is kinda retarded. You could use it about basically anything. "I wish there were dialogues" "you can just imagine your trader talking with people".That said especially in a game like this, I wish there were more political marriages.
I'm going to play an Astra Militarum rogue trader>b-but it's not the most optimised origindon't give a shitCadia standssimple as
>>3280199I have to admit.I'm getting tinges of excitement. I am trying as hard as I can to keep it suppressed because I know day 1 it's going to be janky as fuck and have a fucking retard mechanic I'll need to wait on a mod to fix.
>>3280594>Nenio was insufferableA bit harsh. I work with sperglords. Nenio actually had some moments which made me kek because they were spot on.And yes one of them was being propositioned by a sperg girl who, in a completely formal manner, asked me if I'd go have sex with her before following up with "and would you kindly cum in my mouth" in the middle of a conversation about science. I politely refused.
>>3290370>I politely refused.Are you gay?
>>3290377No. She's very overweight, has greasy hair, psoriasis and practically lives off dairy-lea dippers so constantly smells faintly of cheese. She also dresses in dungarees, anime t-shirts and wellies.She's not something I'd want to stick my dick in. So unless you have a fetish for what I describe it's just going to end badly.
>>3290370I despise autists because they reinforce societal neuroticism which is a trait that should be stamped out instead of encouraged. Schizos are fine though.
>>3290162Anon.. that is one of the most optimized builds in the game, especially for marksman.
>>3288453In the Beta Fighters and Marksmen could wear power armor as long as they met the requirements.. why would they change that?
>>3290423They didn't, power armor is in, the developer just got confused
>>3290423>>3289970ah, makes sense. Dev being retarded lol
What was Owlcat's track record when it comes to preorder prices? If I buy the game now, will it be cheaper than if I bought it after release (normal price, not on sale)?
>>3290162>Cadia Stands but Anon dust can't stand
>>3290603neither can an intact planet you dumbass, it just orbits a starbut that's besides the point as Cadia Stands clearly refers to the people of Cadia not the physical planet of Cadia itself
>>3290162>cadia standsYes because this is 158 years before the warp eats it
>0 tits>gay space furry>no way to avoid dark eldar torture>fugly negress squad-member>ugly mutant squad-member>and as a surprise twist>ugly elfsuch CHOICES! much DECISION!Pozzcat's games have all been full of kosher poison and RT shows no signs of bucking this Larry Fink trend.
>>3280241>faggots>not pandering>sexy women>panderingdie of AIDS. >snowflakeNORMAL is what he is you faggot. >>3280238are you paid by the hour or the post shill?The game has 0 women for straight men, the demographic that plays rpgs, yet they insert faggots because jews sponsor that propaganda. Suck a shotgun.
>>3280418the game doesn't have>good combat>good story>reactivityto discuss but the women question serves to succinctly display the nature of the developer: they hate white men. Don't pay them.
>>3291887Idiot.>>3291892They made a male character and had him be playersexual. Who cares? You, because homosexuality is the only thing you think about.Next time play a game before sperging out.
Which build will best fit a chad Heretical playthrough? I'm thinking offensive (unsanctioned) psyker.>Tfw best girl probably won't be a romance option