What monsters have you been collecting/raising?With the new DQM on the horizon are going to play the others to catch-up?
>>3209092Playing a bit of Cassette Beasts, as well as the DQM demo. I don’t have much to say about the former other than its elemental system is fun and unlike most other games, but it also risks elongating the combat a bit.With how much freedom they give you to explore and circle back to full heal in DQM, I guess it makes sense that default tactic command is spell-usage. Hoping there’s dedicated dungeons that force you to strategize a bit more, though.
>>3209092Currently been spending my time on-and-off gathering all the G and F Ranks the the DQM3 demo will let me obtain, both to get the library sorted out and to figure out any worthwhile combos so I can kickstart myself back to having a solid team once the full game resets all the monsters to their default attributes.
>>3209092I recently played through DWM2's story for the GBC and had a lot of fun. One thing I forgot is how you gain access to monsters I thought were super strong in the Sky and Limbo worlds, like GreatDrak and BossTroll. I had bred for those thinking they were rare but nope. My favorite is GigaDraco because he has a butt belly and absurd HP growth. I remember grinding out a team of 3 GigaDracos with HealUsAll and GigaSlash as a kid.Question for anons who played DWM2: did you ever get lucky enough for a Magical Key world that had boss monsters? I remember getting one that was Dream something and it had wild Orgodemir and Mirudraas and shit. VERY hard to get through. What are the differences between the GBC and 3DS version? I'd like to emulate it someday but not if it's really weird. Does the 3DS one have the monster size limit? I really would hate to not have 3 GigaDracos because they're too big, or 3 GreatDraks (my 2nd favorite).>the new DQM on the horizonI'm not interested because I don't have a Switch. If it's on PC, I'll pirate it because fuck Square Enix in 2023. Don't know how true it is but apparently the new game will have DLC and that's disgusting. IX sucked because of that and is unplayable without piracy, X is going to disappear if servers are pulled, and XI had minor DLC that was just some random items. It's still wrong and I will never support a company that engages in such a financial practice.Also, another question for /mon/ anons: which Digimon game should I start with? There are so many. Is the first Worlds game for PSX (I think) good? I like DWM and Pokemon a lot, so I doubt I'll hate digimon.
>>3209483DQM 2 3D has a size limit. It's basically a Joker game that uses the shell of a DQM 2 remake.The only good digimon game is World 1, a Tamagotchi game with a Pikmin-like structure. It's not for everyone. You may like Cyber Slueth but be warned it has a lot of talking and no way to skip dialogue.
>>3209533How much grinding is there in Digimon games? I really like that in monster raising games. Can you take a digimon and just powerlevel hard? How replayable are they, like with Magic Key worlds or Pokemon post game exploration?>DQM 2 3D has a size limitAw man, that's too bad. I'll play it anyways because I'll still have a little fun but not having a bunch of big dudes is sad. Another favorite party of mine is KingSlime, SpotKing, and MetalKing, the full royalty. Do big slimes like that take up size slots?
Looking for any good Mecha mongers. I've already played through the handheld Medarot games so thats been done.
>>3209557I never finished a Digmon Story so I don't know the grinding rate or how replayable they are. World 1 has both a lot of and little grinding because you can over-train a digimon so you need to do more than make them work out but getting techs is a bitch and there's the infamous lifespan mechanic so you're digimon will eventually die and you'll need to raise its reincarnation. But it is super replayable just in the way where you can do things differently and better way rather than the things are different on another playthrough way.
>>3209572Metal Walker is one but I don't know if its goodI remember hearing Robopon 2 is goodThe PlayStation 1 Medarot has a translation if you're up for another oneOne of the Zoids games has to be a collector.
>>3209602I guess you could count the Zoids Saga games as mongers
>>3209483>which Digimon game should I start with?For the safest, easiest game to play? Cyber Sleuth/Hacker's Memory. They're pretty standard JRPGs and don't really do anything too wrong besides things like very repetitive areas and overly long dialogue with some pretty shitty translation.As for other Digimon games?If you want a raising game, World 1, Re:Digitized, and Next 0rder all have their strengths and weaknesses. World 1 is probably the best so long as you have guide.Digimon DS and Dawn/Dusk can be alright, but are possibly the grindiest out of any Digimon game. I actually think DS, which came before Dawn/Dusk, is actually better because it requires far less grinding and the maps aren't all the same maze with different skins attached.After that Digimon games become moreso one-offs in genre and get more and more flawed.
>>3209092>What monsters have you been collecting/raising?Been playing through Yo-Kai Watch 3. Definitely been enjoying it, there's still just so much charm and little details that not only gives it a feel of having a high budget, but shows some passion in it too. Loved Blasters so glad Blasters T feels pretty fleshed out, even if playing with others is probably impossible. But man, I can really see why the Japanese didn't like Hailey. Beyond just being annoying, I think the whole 'split story' thing doesn't really do the game any favors. Granted I'm still playing through the main story, so don't know what could change, but I find having two separate inventories and two separate teams to manage to just be kinda annoying.>oh you like the team you're using? Too bad your done with this character for now play the other oneI'm hoping post game just lets me play as one without needing to use the other for some content, but I'm not holding my breath.
>>3209572I don't know if they are good but Danball Senki and Biomotor Unitron probably count.
>>3209602>>3209624>>3209636>>3209655>>3209750>>3209750All good suggestions thanks guys! Though I'm surprised to see something for the Neo-Geo in here.
>>3209840There's also MeiQ Labyrinth of Death. It's not good but it's more or less good to cope for the lack of Medabots games.
>>3209869Yeah I'll take anything on that front since they refuse to localize anything, and currently in a battle with an NFT trademark squatter.
>>3209557Most monsters are small. You can have all the slimes / king slimes / gem slimes in one party as they are only small size. Only a few boss monsters are Medium or large and that's really after credits that it becomes available.
>>3209092I caught most of the overworld monsters and bred quite a few F class. After 7 hours I decided to call it quits so I can enjoy release.I have been progressing into the endgame of joker 2 which I never completely finished. Currently at final boss labyrinth then endgame.DWM is my favorite game of all time. Sadly, I now understand that it's my turn to be bent over by square enix. The DLC is borderline mandatory.1. $10 - Mole Hole DLC - You can now freely catch any monster you've already caught. You can also catch monsters only available by synthesis. This is mandatory and a gigantic time save.2. $10 - Coach Joe's Gym - Create a team around restrictions (1 type mon) and enter random dungeons. Pick up items as you go and try to kill the boss for rewards.*This almost feels like a throwback to DWM. If it has a remix of the original flute track and lovewater pickups I will love it forever*3. $6 - Treasure Trunks - Timed rewards. Every hour or so you unlock a new reward. This is literally paying to get yourself more addicted to the game psychologically. Fun. Rewards look worth it for long playthroughs.The music had really good remade tracks. Sadly the general theme is like big happy marching band to the tune of dragon quest. I'm kinda over it.
>>3209925Greedy fucks.The game already looks like it shouldnt be more than $40
>>3209925The DLC honestly just might be the breaking point for me. I stopped playing to demo right after the G-rank tournament because I'm really debating with myself whether or not I'm actually going to buy it or just pirate it.I want DQM to succeed, but holy fuck Jewnix is practically doing everything in it's power to make it not, from poor promotion to this atrocious DLC that brings the game up to fucking $85Especially doesn't help that right after playing Joker 3 Pro for the first time, DQM3 feels pretty barebones.
>>3209925It wouldn't surprise me if the ability to manipulate the state of the overworld (seasons and weather this time around) is thrown as far into the game's progression as possible (if not postgame outright) to incentivize buying the Mole Hole to skip the hassle of idling around, honestly.
Post some /mon/ music.https://youtu.be/FHwgjacImpshttps://youtu.be/zn2LH1sGAkshttps://youtu.be/fGlEs3FkHHYhttps://youtu.be/qt3zl0cIYQ0
>>3209925I honestly think I'm only getting the coach one as that sounds like a fun addon and worthy DLC. And maybe the treasure one if I have some spare gift card money and gold e-shop points. I can handle the grind so unless Squeenix hosts some tournaments and gives me some motivation to cut it down I won't need it.
>>3210358https://youtu.be/7hMV9HsLhAY?si=rhMR0YBJX_zxzPVXhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=erU86ZT8z4Ihttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SbycimGmQw4&list=PLyxqUxT0goioufFRe0NEBViVdZa8sOUME&index=5I'd link the UK Monster Rancher fall theme but no one has ripped that game's soundtrack yet. There's just this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f0TzpT0G7HM
>>3210358>MhstEverything from that series is god tier. I also enjoy medarot ost and pokemon gen 2/3
Seems like most mon games favor having a single team or even just one monster that's absurdly powerful while a full collection is just a side goal. Are there any that actually make having multiple teams viable or reward 'dex' completion?Closest I've seen is Siralim 3, but even that's a stretch.
>>3210948>Are there any that actually make having multiple teams viable or reward 'dex' completion?My game will tie dex completition into the progression systems, and also reward the player for discovering new species.
>>3210967Not everyone wants to catch them all though.
>>3211065>>3211033No need to catch them all, it will be like the PLA system but much less bloated. Battling monsters unlocks data from them. Completition rate opens up special locations with more monsters and special item rewards, etc.
>>3211078Fine. Post monster. Don't worry, I won't give feedback.
>>3210948dragon quest monstersSMT
>>3210948Yo-kai Watch has a neat mechanic where if you get select groups of yo-kai you get an item or rare yo-kai. And it doesn't tell you what most of them are so you either have to figure it out or just get everything and hope for the best. Is that close enough?
Any Monstergirl games you'd recommend other than Monster Girl Quest Paradox?I'd basically just want something in the same vein to tide me over until part 3not sure how well this fits here, but I'd consider something like wide variety of party members (that are monsters) the core appeal of the subgenre
>>3211518Monster Girls and the Mysterious Adventure
The Montner giving your team random tension in Joker 3 P kind of sucks. I doubt this game can surpass Coby and Tara but it seems ok anyways.
This year has been a pretty sparse year compared to 2021 and 2022.
>>3209533I like Digimon World 2 because the grinding appeases my autism.
>>3212942I hate that this resonates too well. 3 is in the same boat because there's something about the grind that feels good enough to keep doing it. Also looking through the steam Creature Collecting tag I found a game called Monster Path. Anyone got any details that have played this?
has anyone tried moonstone island?
>>3212994you made me check out the steam page but I got repelled by the tumblr character portraits and it being partially farming sim
>>3212942This but for Digimon World Next 0rder.The grinding and progression of the game just really click with me, which is why I've played through it so many times.
>>3212942Id like it if the animations didnt take so long
>>3212942I don't like grinding unless it's something optional that you can bypass with clever use of the tools at your disposal
>>3212942I spent 200 hours in Digimon Dusk making a full team of Digimon with 9999 HP/MP and 999 in all stats. I killed so many Armageddemon in the mines.
>PalworldThat shit is either a money laundering scheme or its gonna end up like spore.
>>3214150Well shit. Seems like this is shaping up to be a Joker 3 scenario where there's going to be a lot of roster padding via palette swaps that aren't series staples, between the higher grade tournaments in the demo and trailers like these.I can already count three Slime Stacks for instance, with a safe guess of at least four if you count Metal Medley.
>>3214461They add more monsters and you complain about monster padding? You want less options for fusing?Give me a break.
>>3215042Recolors are shit desu. It's worthless to have five thousand monsters if a good chunk of them are ugly pallette swaps. It only makes harder to get the monsters you like.
>>3214461This plus toriyama's artstyle is why I can never click with DQM, what a waster of mongrey potential
>>3209092Redpill me on DQM/DWM. How Pokemon-like (derogatory) is the series? Are the GBC games still worth playing to this day or is it better to go for the DS ones?
>>3216504The GBC games are a bit odd in that they do better if you've played the mainline series too. The first game has so many proper callbacks to the first game in that a lot of the major recruit-able monsters are where you fought them as bosses or enemies.
>>3216504DWM story: You and your sister are kidnapped in the first scene. You then have to battle your way to S rank in the arena, to enter the starry night tournament, which you have to win to go home and rescue your sister. After that is like 20+ hours of endgame content.That is the entire formula, and they rehash that every game. It's the only first person rpg I really enjoy. DWM is great and it's not that similar to pokemon.It's not a terribly difficult game. The fun comes from fusions, and the originals are procedural dungeons while the DS is full 3d set areas. You level up to learn new moves, but your mons never evolve naturally.It's free on an emulator, simple and the art is pretty good. It's my favorite game, and I've beaten it like 6 times on emulator probably over 800+ hours. If you enjoy optimizing stats and numbers going up, breeding monsters better at lvl 1 than your lvl 30 team the game has legs.Don't believe the homos here btw. Joker series is fine.1 is okay because you get a free legendary monsters to breed up.2 is better in basically every way.
>>3216504Just jump immediately to Joker
>>3216504The series is more like SMT with how it's breeding/fusion mechanics work, as well as 3-4 at a time battle system rather than it being one-on-one.
>>3209092What is the online like in these games? Not keen on getting this on the switch when it may be on pc 7 months later but by that point I'd imagine most people will have moved on.
>>3216755I'm guessing there's gonna be a bunch of people like you who will be waiting for a PC release, or maybe even willing to double dip.
>>3216755Highly unlikely it will come out on PC. You're better off emulating, like I will be. Sacrificing online is a small price to pay for better framerate and loading times (and fastforward in battle anims)
>>3216504>How Pokemon-like (derogatory) is the series?The only one that I can say it's more like Pokémon is Joker 3 Pro (I haven't played vanilla 3).It's railroaded, the long legged dinosaurs interrupt you each five steps for a cutscene. The partner long legged dinosaur gives you buffs, tension and healing quite often. There's an option to scout high rank monsters every thirty minutes, it fails most of the time but it's bound to give you broken shit early on sooner or later.It's gimmicky with the ride attacks. Riding your monsters in the field is based but the combined attacks seem unnecessary giving me Z moves/Tera/etc vibes.Also you are giving a free rare monster just because.A total recolor bloating. Probably the worst in the series.My favorite is DQM 2 3ds. Is like the first two jokers but better.
>>3216794>Highly unlikely it will come out on PC. Pretty much every DQ spinoff of the past decade (except 3DS releases, mobile releases, and DQ Builders 1) has had a PC release.
>>3216804Joker 3 Pro isn't anything like Pokemon and everything you listed isn't anything like Pokemon, just things you aren't a fan of.Plus the dino partner straight up just stops talking after like, the first area or two.
>>3216808Online play is a big deal in DQM games and they won't want to bother dealing with cheaters on PC.
>>3216818>everything you listed isn't anything like PokemonMost of them are, those that don't are Pokémon like in the sense that were made to treat the player like a baby.
>>3216794Probably going to do the same in the end, the day 1 dlc price really turned me off for what looks like a budget title.
>>3216831>railroadedNot unique to Pokemon. Besides, aside from like, the tower area, all the others are basically mini open areas that you can just screw around in until you want to progress. Can't really call that 'railroading.'Already addressed the little dinosaur companion stops talking after the tutorial areas. As for his battle assistance? Eh, I honestly never found it game-breaking or anything. It's easy enough to Oomph or raise your own tension without him.>scout high rank monsters every thirty minutesHow is this similar to Pokemon? Not only are these fights generally pretty difficult when you first get to them, as you said, the chance of scouting them is pretty slim. It'd be dumb luck, save-stating, or just a huge time sync of grinding or continuously trying for something that'll become average by the time you get to the next area.>ride attacksNever used them myself. I'd rather just do other moves. Ride fusion is the only thing I'd say is outright completely overpowered, and again it's nothing like anything in Pokemon.>free rare monsterOnly noteworthy freebie monsters I can think of are the starter, the Grypon, and then the giant bird right before the finale.>recolor bloatAn issue sure, but one I wouldn't associate with Pokemon. Pokemon didn't even start getting anything akin to recolored until 7th gen.So yeah, you're kinda talking out of your ass trying to compare it to Pokemon. And like I said, the only mechanic that completely breaks the game into pure ease is ride fusion, which you didn't even really say yourself.
>>3216819You say that as if hacked Switches don't exist.
>>3216851>>3216851>Not unique to Pokemon.Yes, but Pokémon players don't want more railroading. >Besides, aside from like, the tower area, all the others are basically mini open areas that you can just screw around in until you want to progress. Can't really call that 'railroading.'Not always, it's pretty restrictive most of the time. It's not as railroaded as Pokémon but a lot more than the Jokers 1-2>Already addressed the little dinosaur companion stops talking after the tutorial areas.Yeah, just like Lille, Right?Bullshit, it talked to me in the cemetery.>As for his battle assistance? Eh, I honestly never found it game-breaking or anything. It's easy enough to Oomph or raise your own tension without him.It's treating you like a baby. Just like in the Platinum remakes that give you free crits and focus sash only because your partner has high friendship. And yes, tension is game breaking and being so easy to build up is bullshit.>scout high rank monsters every thirty minutes>How is this similar to Pokemon?It's treating you like a baby.>Not only are these fights generally pretty difficult when you first get to them, as you said, the chance of scouting them is pretty slim.I'm talking about the scout made by the dinosaur, you don't even need to fight.>It'd be dumb luck, save-stating, or just a huge time sync of grinding or continuously trying for something that'll become average by the time you get to the next area.I got a level 40 Boss Orc and a Metal Slime before the snow level without savescumming. It's fucking broken.
>>3216851>ride attacks>Never used them myself. I'd rather just do other moves. Ride fusion is the only thing I'd say is outright completely overpowered, and again it's nothing like anything in Pokemon.It's an unnecessary and overpowered gimmick, just like in Pokémon.>free rare monster>Only noteworthy freebie monsters I can think of are the starter, the Grypon, and then the giant bird right before the finale.Three broken freebies, one of them being fucking Starkers. Yeah is not busted stat wise but is a legendary equivalent. Just like the free Lati in ORAS.>recolor bloatAn issue sure, but one I wouldn't associate with Pokemon. Pokemon didn't even start getting anything akin to recolored until 7th gen.It's similar to Pokémon in the laziness. Also it's something that somehow outshits Pokémon and that's not a small thing.The Point is that anon should play a more traditional DQM before J3 Pro. It changes everything way too much.If he ends up liking the series, he will enjoy J3 or J3 Pro.
>>3216875>>3216880I don't even disagree that anon should play the other DQM games before J3 Pro, nor do I even disagree with some if your issues.But going>it's like PokemonIs completely asinine. Just say they're issues with the game without making up some kind of vague, arbitrary comparison to Pokemon. It just comes off as disingenuous reaching and makes your points weaker.
>>3216884Let anon decide, if he gives a shit, if those are things Pokémon has.For me, J3 Pro is Pokémon Quest: the Casual Baby Adventure.
>>3216755the online community for this game will always be tiny in the west.>>3216794>>3216794I don't think this will come to PC unless it does well. This may be the last game in the series if it doesn't pop off
>>3217002There hasn't been one in years, DQ is as popular as ever, and it's going to launch worldwide. I think it will do fine, unless Nintendo eclipses it with some other game.
>>3214461>>3215042>>3215665There is ZERO excuse for not including every DQ monster from every mainline game, including many of the bosses. The've had years of experience working on the Switch, models shouldn't be a big deal at this point, and the designers surely can figure out enough skills to go around. All that's left is animation which should be fine since it has been a million years since the last Monsters game. What (should) separate DQM from Pokemon the most is that Enix actually spends time baking the game instead of selling you raw, yeasty dough.>>3217002>This may be the last game in the seriesI hope so. If the future of DQ is DLC kikery and trying to double dip with platform release fake-out (AKA PS4, Switch, PC for XI) then let it die (the Cobi/Tara stuff was pretty dumb too but it was objectively trying to copy Pokemon in that aspect). Wanting western releases was a monkey's paw wish. Fans on woodus/dragon's den were doing fine translating DQVII for the 3DS for example, until it released here. Same with Joker 3 and the 3DS Monsters we never got. I was pretty sad when Koichi Sugiyama died but at this point I'd only feel slightly bummed out by the loss of Horii and Toriyama because the games are spiritually dead and have been for over a decade. I'd like to think he isn't making these awful decisions, that it's higer ups who need to justify western releases by milking gaijin. Sure wish he and a small team could've bought the franchise from Enix and gone completely independent.
>>3217179If DQM fails, monging will die.
>>3217179Shut the fuck up and crawl back to /vp/ you save the national dex autist. The worst thing Game Freak every did was pollute the rest of the /mon/ genre with you autistic Pokemon refugees. Nobody wants you.
>>3217810>Pokemon refugeesThats more than half of the monging scene though.
>>3214440Bullshit it's gonna be the best mon game ever made
>>3214440>SporeNa, thats a one of a kind fuck up.
>>3218352People are gonna play it for the>ZOMG pokeymans but with GUNZFactor and then drop it when it turns out to have nothing else going for it.
>>3217368>If DQM fails, monging will dieMonging will die but mangoes will live
>>3218378You're wrong, you will be able to make sweat shops, kill pals, ride them, put them on turrets, breed them, and so much more, I hope you're prepared to cope when it comes out and it sets new standards for the genre
Man, with most of this game and 1/2 having the over-head view, this perspective change is actually really cool
I'm enjoying Cassette Beasts a lot more than I thought I would. The comparison to pokemon is impossible to avoid, but it succeeds and is probably better than anything that franchise has shat out in over a decade at least. Exploring is fun, the "sticker" system of moveslots is fun, I like the "AP" system stolen from Bravely Default. The designs are shit, but better than, again, anything Pokemon's shat out in a decade+.
>>3218376I liked the spore ds game but don't think it counts as a mongolian game
>>3219101I didn't even know spore ds existed. Is it good? Base spore isn't a Monterrey but they did fuck up badly with their exagerated antipiracy software.
>>3209092Is DQ Treasures a monge?
>>3218865what game is this?
>>3219495Yo-Kai Watch 3.
Is Viva pinata considered a Hannah Montana?
>>3219443>>3219552What makes a mongger to be a mongger?
>>3219624You don't wanna open that can of mons.
>>3219624It's pretty flexible.It's not defined by 'collecting' them, as raisers like Digimon World and Monster Rancher have no emphasis on collecting, instead being focused on singular individual monsters.Dragon Quest V is often considered one of the first Mon games, but the befriendable monsters are totally optional and can be replaced with traditional party members, but the option to use monsters is still there.Heck, in a strange way you could even consider the Chao Garden a type of Mon game.Overall I'd say the key defining feature of a Mon game is a focus on monsters over traditional characters. This includes the monsters not being 'unique,' being replaceable in a sense rather than being a single defined entity, like say Red XIII in FF7.
>>3219727>the key defining feature of a Mon game is a focus on monsters over traditional charactersThis is true but also so simple it hurts.
>>3220042Bro these games are made for literal children of course they are simple. This thread is for nostalgiafags
>>3220066Nostalgiafags...And I thought I was around fellow manchildren. I'll leave before I get more painful truths.
>>3218970I find the designs to be very hit and miss and miss and miss. For every Fortwinx or Ripterra, you have like fifteen Blossomaws
>>3220173I enjoyed this line.
>>3219101I owned it and beat it. It was pretty terrible…>>3218407How much are they paying you to shill that asset flip?
>>3209092I always thought they should have made a shaman king mon game.
>>3220883They made a Metroidvania instead that was pretty good.
Aren't the palworld mons stolen anyway?
>>3221779Plenty of them look super derivative but I wouldn't be surprised if some are full-on stolen models that have been modified.>Captcha: ASSST
I'm playing through siralim ultimate, and I need some assistance in figuring out the stat growth of the monsters. The Asura Heartripper is my starting monster and the rest of the ones I am using are created from fusion.Base stat total for each monster:Asura Heartripper (lv. 30) = 1112 (~37.1 stat pts/level)Fire Salamander (lv. 29) = 943 (~32.5 stat pts/level)Exiled Satyr (lv. 29) = 944 (~32.5 stat pts/level)Centaur Ranger (lv. 29) = 990 (~34.1 stat pts/level)Noxious Smog (lv. 26) = 872 (~33.5 stat pts/level)Ancient Spirit (lv. 29) = 1030 (~35.5 stat pts/level)All of them have Artifacts with 3 bonus stat sockets. The only difference specifically for the Asura Heartripper is that he has 2x single-stat bonus sockets & 1x dual stat-bonus socket while the others have 1x single-stat bonus socket and 2x dual stat-bonus sockets.The issue I have is that I want to eventually (sooner rather than later) fuse this Asura Heartripper to get a secondary trait, but the stats he has are unrivaled compared to the rest of my mons. Also follow-up/unrelated question, are the natures from the offspring of the 2 fusion monsters randomized? I know that there are items you can use to change the natures, but they seem rare right now.
>>3222133Patrician game. Don't play it, pleb.
>>3212162Also the clash mechanic in DQMJ3 is fucking terrible.
Can a monster-collecting game be called one if you can only get one of each monster or is it just a normal RPG with the gimmick of a huge party?
>>3222879I'd say so, especially if the monsters are optional to get and you have to go out of your way to collect them.Like Fossil Fighters you can really only get 1 of every vivosaur, because each individual fossil is added to one individual, even when you get a better cleaning score.Though Fossil Fighters Champions let you but vivosaurs in a sort of storage, letting to get different ones of the same individual.
>>3222133I'd always thought that I wasn't much of a graphicsfag because I really don't give a shit about how many FPS something is, but Siralim proved to me that it's possible to design a game that looks like such shit that it disgusts even me.
>>3222898We do need limits though. Otherwise things like Lufia 2 could be called one as well.
>>3222928Well, that certainly has one mechanic similar to a Mon game, but I wouldn't say it's as impactful as the monster recruitment in Dragon Quest V.I'd moreso call that a side-gimmick more than anything. Like how a lot of RPGs have some kind of casino/gambling area, but you wouldn't say the game as whole counts as a card game just because it has an optional way to play Poker or Blackjack.
>>3222922Agreed. I'm a nostalgiafag so obviously I can let some things go but over time I've become much less forgiving of graphics unless there is something unique to draw me in.FF9 is a great example of a game I wouldn't enjoy if the AI upscale mod + speed bosts didn't exist.Im the biggest DWM fan but I refuse to play my old games without an emultar 4x speed.
>>3222922Eh, Siralim's graphics never bothered me. But they're just very 'whatever.' A couple of the areas were kinda neat but very few of the monster designs ever wowed me and over it definitely feels like a game of quantity over quality.
>>3222959Spritework isn't even bad, its just that the color palette and the general aesthetic is bad.
>>3222879Disc creatures lets you get 3 of each.
>>3209092Is this a good game to get into the monster series? I did like DQIV and Psaro.
>>3223014Only a demo is available right now. If you don't want to wait until December, you can try playing Terry's Wonderland or Joker 1.
>>3222922Graphics and art style are different things though.
>>3212994Portraits aside, the game's systems seem to be competently put together from what I've experienced.However, the start is pretty slow due to how many core items/features are locked behind quests. You're gonna have a bad time if you don't rush the Spirit Barn and Broom, then Glider. However, the Farming and Alchemy aspects seem to be mostly optional as long as you have strong monster/deck focus, since they only provide healing and stat buffs/debuffs (albeit pretty strong/useful). You don't (or shouldn't) sell crops for money.As for the monsters, there are eight elements each with different card mechanics (although you can really only access five easily early on). Each species has an ability and one static weakness. Individual monsters will have a second randomized weakness, and variations in stat distribution and starting cards, you can also actually see the former two in-battle before taming them by cursoring over them fortunately.You'll have a team of three monsters, meaning you have the option of funneling a single element's core competencies for focus/consistency, or running different elements for greater utility with access to element-exclusive cards. Either approach seems to work well enough if you're deckbuilding correctly. I had Mono-Earth carry me through the early game and switched to Fire/Water/Psychic for the mid game.
>>3223259Deck-building is actually pretty easy once you understand how it works. Your monsters get a card selection at each level up, but you can also obtain consumables which let you add/remove or upgrade cards given through shrines littered around the world map. You can also buy them from a wandering merchant. Point being they're common and accessible, and the shrines RESET between seasons (the game doesn't fucking tell you this).On that note, there's a lot that the game doesn't emphasize until you experience it yourself. Taming is done by feeding them with items, which is simple enough.The big thing is that the level of monsters you're able to tame is tied directly to a skill tree. You get invisible experience by either taming monsters or hatching eggs, regardless of whether you decide to keep them. At the start, you can only tame up to level 5. The first skill raises it to 10, then 30, etc.But this means that unless you grind out that experience by taming/hatching low level monsters, you could raise your team that started at level 5 to be level 30+ and be unable to tame anything in area you're fighting in because you didn't get the skill to raise the level taming limit.
Would you consider Monster Train a Mon game?>gameplay centers around building a deck with both spell and unit cards>units are all monsters>can get more than one of any unit save for the Champion unit>can customize the units with ruinsLike I've played Monster Train for awhile but I never really thought of it as a Mon game till a friend brought it up, and by all accounts it feels like it should.
>>3225008i don't consider card games /mon/ games.
>>3217179>There is ZERO excuse for not including every DQ monster from every mainline game, including many of the bosses. I am not going to miss the purple assed dragon when we have the green arse version already.
Most favorite mon game? Gotcha Force for me
>>3226022Honestly hard to say. I guess my top three would be, which are interchangeable,Monster Hunter Stories 2, Yo-Kai Watch Blasters, and Digimon World Next 0rder.
>>32260221. MH2, 2. MR23. DW Honorable mention (and for nostalgia reasons) pokemon GSC.
>>3226022first time I've ever heard about Gotcha Force
>>3226022I have a physical copy of this and it's easily the rarest and most expensive game in my collection. I've also only played it once and thought it was boring.
>>3226022As a franchise, still gotta go with Pokemon, just too big of a part of my childhood even if I haven't loved the games since gen 5Favorite modern game would be Monster Sanctuary, scratches my team building autism more than most other RPGs
>>3226022Started pokemon went digimon. What I would not give another World/Story game with at least half the mons, hell Bandai already got the models and animations done thanks to the Mobile games and as Survive showed digimon fans are willing to buy their stuff, it's like they hate either money or digimon or both.
>>3226022DQM Joker 3 for me
>>3226795I like Joker 1. played it when it came out. played 2 as an adult on mobile but it didnt grab me the same way, probably because the story isnt as interesting. haven't touched 3 yet.
>>32268943's main campaign story is a lot more involved than the last two games, pretty straightforward Dragon Quest fun that also wraps a neat little bow on the Joker series of games.
>>3226908Agreed it seems like a fine take on what they did in DQ11. My only issue with the comparison is the music is too similar to what they've already done.
>>3226894Joker 1 had no professional version but 2 had one which didn't get released in English
>>3209092In DQV I used slime knight, mudslough, and restore slime cause those are what the game gave me. I tried to use orc king but he levels ungodly slow, and dancing jewel has 5 wisdom so it's useless. What I wanted was a rogue knight and a springer, but I tried grinding and when I didn't get the armor in 30 minutes I decided it wasn't worth the time. Luckily it seems like restore slime is easily the best thing in the game.
>>3226022Digimon World 1 or Monster Rancher 2 with Dragon Quest Monsters Joker 2 and Yo-kai Watch 3 on the tier below.
>>3227019>In DQV I used slime knightThe wise man's choice.
>>3227107Can't argue with his stats, equipment options, heal spells and boom. He's basically a main character.
>>3209092>With the new DQM on the horizon are going to play the others to catch-up?Idk, are they any good?
>>3227180Yeah the breeding mechanic is really fun.
>>3226293>I've also only played it once and thought it was boringWhat about it was boring for you?>>3227005Used copies of it go for ~$1000 nowadays.
>>3227180Too lazy to hack my 3ds to play catch up. Did they atleast translate the PS1 DQM2?
>>3222133Those items you need to change natures aren’t so rare, but the drops are random like most loot. All you gotta do is just keep playing lNatures influences on stats won’t matter much until endgame depending on what difficulty variables you set the game toIt’s likely you’ll even pick one up without noticing
>>3227366>Used copies of it go for ~$1000 nowadays.Holy shit, I bought that for 5$ on gamestop years back
>>3228857Yeah, pretty much same here though I think it was $15. I love it too much to ever sell it unless I'm in a do-or-die situation though.
>>3228861Same. Nice to know, but I am not gonna sell it unless I got no alternative for money, I am gonna gloat to friends now though.
>>3228857>>3228861Makes me really regret selling my YKW games after my 3DS died. They're expensive as fuck now.
I'm trying to remember a 3DS or DS mon game, it was a fairly girly title.Any idea what I'm thinking of?
>>3231115you can start by describing what it was likemonster tale?
>>3231140I think the monsters might have been puppets or something? It was niche. I dunno, it's not rhapsody btwI think I found it on /v/ recommended games wiki ages ago. I think it was a 3DS game.
>>3231115Moco Moco Friends?
>>3231146>I think the monsters might have been puppets or something?Touhou Puppet Play? It's a GBA hack though, not DS/3DS
>>3231157Absolutely this, thanks so much
>>3231157Is there any way to make this work on emulator?
>>3233073Small indie studio, purizu andastendo
Telefang lore was stupid but in a funny way
>>3233751did it get fully translated?
>>3233879Yeah it got a fan translation a while ago
Those who played the demo, is it as fucking ugly and empty as DQ treasures was?
>>3233889you're ugly and empty
>>3233889I'm also interested, how is it?
>>3233889>UglyIt's fine>EmptyAreas are very linear sans chests thst are only accessible during certain weathers/seasons
Played through the Cassette Beats DLC and it was a resounding 'okay.' Way too short and too little content added for $7. None of the included new monsters' designs really grabbed me aside from Fragliacci.This is also the first time I've played since the pre-DLC QoL update, and I find it highly annoying that they added in the limit of 2500 stickers stacks without fixing the glitch that makes identical stickers create new, separate stacks in certain circumstances. In addition, the new bulk recycling option is highly imprecise. It would've been better to also give us a manual multi-select option for when we want to keep some stickers of the same rarity but recycle others.
What was your team for the final boss in dqmj3 and 3 Pro?Mine was Starkers, Orc, Tundra Dragon, Totem of Urubea and Truffle Slime.
>>3235359I keep seeing anons talk about DQMJ3 and the DS remake of Coby's adventure. Did these get translated on emulator or something? I didn't even know 3 existed, and I was certain the remake was JP only?
>>3235407They are for 3ds, both got fan patches.
>>3235407The entire lineup of 3DS DQMs have been fan translated for a good while now, yeah.
So do you always start with a chibi version of Estark in DQMJ3 pro?
>>3236627Your starter differs depending on how you answer Sancho's questions during the intro illusion. You can get Starkers, Rebjorn, Zoma's Little Devil or Slamen Tykes.These monsters all act as ingredients to SS Rank monsters much later down the line, so it's important to make sure you don't turn them into fodder unless you're ready to grind up or cheat in some Multiplayer Plaza Coins so you can directly purchase copies of them.Rebjorn's probably the worst of the bunch to gett, since not only do you need four Rebjorns to make Bjorn in the first place, Bjorn appears as a scoutable enemy in one of the postgame areas anyway, IIRC.
>>3235359Huh. Just happened to stumble across a mod for Yo-Kai Watch Blasters called Blasters++.Basically makes it so you can get version exclusives through completing story missions, makes unplayable Yo-kai playable, and removes the the multiplayer requirement to get some items.Looks like it's time to play through it again.
>>3238193Post link pls
>>3238207https://gamebanana.com/mods/457241As it turns out I'm having trouble because this is the first time I've tried to mod a 3DS game.>can only dump the mod into a CIA file>can't find a decrypted CIA version BlastersI'm way too retarded for this stuff.
>>3238212Maybe I'll wait for a pre-patched rom from CD romance then.
>>3238219>CD romanceThey don't even host 3DS stuff though.
>>3238220H shop then
>>3238212>>3238222As it turns out my dumb ass was just heavily overcomplicating things.You don't need a CIA file, you just need to make a folder for the game to show up in the citra home menu. I thought that only could be done with CIA files. From there its easy to open a mod location for the game, drag the mod into that location, and boom, done.God I feel retarded.Also from what I was told due to how the Moon Rabbit Crew update works, making a pre-patched version doesn't seem likely.
What are some /mon/ tactical rpgs? Arc the lad?
>>3241593Digimon Survive, which is admitttedly mostly a VN. Pokemon Conquest. You can capture monsters in FFTA IIRC.
>>3241682+1 to Pokemon conquest. Digimon Survive is so barebones you'd be better off playing something from the NES era it really doesn't give a damn about tactics.
>>3241593Yeah Pokemon Conquest is the main one that comes to mind.While I wouldn't say it super counts, I did do a monster only run of Disgaea 1. It'd be even easier in newer games as they let monsters pick up and throw in those.
>>3241593Majin TenseiDevil SurvivorEternal Eyes
Playing through Digimon World DS for the first time, it's also my first Digimon game period.Anything I should know going in? (also how do I get renamon if they're in the game)
>>3242870World DS is pretty linear and easy so you won't have too much trouble. While it requires tons of grinding to evolve to Ultimates you don't really need that to beat the main story.For comparison, end game team in DS vs endgame team in Dusk, which I 100% used some cheats to speed up for.Also you'll get Renamon by encountering them in a dungeon and getting the scan data up to 100% or higher.
>>3233879>did it get fully translated?Yeah current translation is like 95% complete
>>3235359Leon Byblos (Leon Bubro) and Enchantress Gretel (Witch Valencia) the latter was painful to breed.
>>3239760Been playing near non-stop since I downloaded the mod. Really reminded of how much I enjoyed Blasters.Plus, the mod literally just updated a couple days ago, adding in all the non-playable minions as playable, among other things.And I can still multiplayer with other people playing the mod, it's great.
>don't care about DQM but I may try itSo are there no other big titles in the forseeable future?
>>3209092In DQM can low rank monsters still be viable in late game? Like for example if I want use a normal slime throughout the game and not want it to be a burden because of low stats regardless of level.
>>3245404It's like Digimon Story where you need to make that slime the 80th generation of its family if you really don't want a king or gem slime.
>>3245408I don't mind a little extra work.
>>3245404Technically yes but it wouldn't be worth it for a first play. When you breed monsters gain +1 +2 etc which makes them level slower but gain more stats. It's not crazy until like +13 and that takes forever to even hit level 10.Have fun with the breeding system and focus on passing down skills or breeding types with similar atk stats. Grizzly, unicorn, and breeding off boss monsters is best. Make sure to manage your inventory and use ribs / sirloin to steal monsters from other tamers.Phoenix + ice bird and ice man + lava man are secret breeds. You can find guides for early boss monsters but honestly the game isn't that hard. Go in completely blind and you will only fail one or two dungeons ever.
>>3245461Oops my comment was about dwm but it all still applies.
>>3235359>3can't remember exactly but I think I had an overkilling machine for damage and a king metal slime to deal with Snap's bullshit fog passive>3jshat on him with my ultimate Metal Goddesscompletely destroyed me on the first rematch tho
>>3245462Yeah I was thinking about picking up DQM3 but thanks anyway.
The Dragon Quest Monsters mobile game is shutting down in January, a week after it's 10th anniversary.
>>3244104she looks rather enjoyable to breed
>>3235259How did you feel about the base game? I still have a week of gamepass left and noticed it's on thereThe aesthetic and monster designs I've seen don't really appeal to me, but if the combat is good enough I might overlook it
>>3245790It's getting some form of offline version but from the description on the Website it seems to be more of a high score mode rather than the full game getting repurposed.
I know dqmj3 gets shit on for too many recolors but it is funny I can just use a team of nothing but teeny sanguini variants
Has anyone played this?https://aludeku.itch.io/digital-partner-digimonI tried the other vpet fangame but got bored easily
>>3248495I downloaded it but haven't opened it yet. What made the others you played suck?
>>3248499I guess the combat minigame was boring and i was burnout from Next order on the monster caring part.
>>3245799Not him, but Cassette Beasts is fine. The combat has many features that let you use lots of strategies well so even if the difficulty is low overall, you can still entertain yourself with different approaches and make any monster you like strong. Types actually have status effects/buffs and different interactions depending on the type matchups instead of just damage buffs. The story/characters were enjoyable enough to keep me playing, but the ending is a wet fart. Monster designs range from cool to garbage, but there's a pretty good range of them for different tastes. Fusion mechanic looks lame most of the time and is pretty overpowered even if neat. I really like the music. Problem is that it isn't balanced very well, if you're at all good at videogames you'll only struggle at maybe one postgame boss or the final "champion" fight. For example, I beat the level 99 postgame boss immediately after beating the story (somewhere around level 50-60 iirc) by just being invincible and abusing Walls (Substitute from Pokemon basically).A solid game to buy when it goes on sale. DLC isn't really worth it and not at all balanced around even lategame fights sadly, but I guess it was neat and it had a clown with big boobs.
I recently found out the Dreamcast roguelike Time Stalkers has a monster catching mechanic. Might be worth checking out.
If monsters don't evolve in your game then it isn't worth playing. Simple as
>>3249384Fusion >>> evolution
>>3249456Why not both
>>3249932Getting digimon world 2 flashbacks.
>>3249384Whats the optimal number of evolutions? I'm working on 4 for my game project.
Thoughts on Coromon?
>>3250093Oh god I take it all back
>>3250159Really was the worst of both worlds in DW2. You had a fusion.. just to level up better.
>>3250155Good pixel art, bad story. Its a pokeclone so don't expect any improvements aside from a few QoL changes.
>>3250106Per mon or in general?
>>3250155They made it bad on purpose to be like pokemon
>>3250459On a per mon basis.
>>3250491I think it depends on the structure of the game. You need to consider the whole experience of discovering the mon, aquiring it, understanding how to use it, evolving it and lastly what you do with the evolution. I'd say at first you need to figure out how evolutions fit into the progression system and make sure that you have enough granularity.Will your evolutions be very systematic or are they tied to individual mons? Compare the branching digimon lines with specific Pokemon and their short lines.If it's very difficult to aquire you don't want that many evolutions(because it would mean your catch is the lamer base version). You're putting in a whole bunch of work, but then the game demands even more? You better make sure the reward is worth it.You also don't want to chain complicated evolution requiremments for a long line. Some obscure side branch or alternate final form is great, but if you overdo it evolving the mon just becomes a chore. Consider the player that has their favourite mon become useless throughout their playthrough because they didn't figure out the hyperspecific evolution requirements. There's also little point in putting a baby mon at the very end of the game(unless you are very sandboxy). After all the player already has a team, so any last minute replacement has to be appealing. Remember Volcarona from pokemon? By all means a cool mon, but realistically who could get it in a normal playthrough? If you go out of your way to grind for it, what the hell are you gonna do with it?
>>3250491>>3250571Once as a thought experiement I planned the following system. The mons function more like RPG party members, so there were seperate equipment/skill systems.>base form>base form with extra stats and skills>intermediate form>intermediate form with branching skills(foreshadowing final form)>three branching final formsThe reason I have five forms is because how evolutions tie into the power of a mon. Instead of leveling you feed items, so I need a mechanic to prevent players dumping everything into a super mon and ignoring the rest. Therefore each form as a limit of total stats and some nasty debuffs if a stat is neglected. So if I don't have enough evolutions game difficulty will swing wildly, being too easy when you have a new evolution and too difficult when approaching a new breakthrough.Think what sort of player behavior your system encourages and try to align it with what you want your players to feel.
>>3250571>>3250575>I think it depends on the structure of the gameMy system is basically this: raise monster, as monster age it goes to its next stage. The 'adult' stage is easily attainable if you understand the game's mechanics. The 'hyper form' is attained after completing one of X criteria called 'Feats' meant to test the skills of the player and the monster. Depending on the criteria completed the monster gets a permanent boon aside from the typical growth stats and skills. These criteria are not monster specific, but I do want to make as many criterias a possible so I can make every monster feel unique. Did your giant dinosaur won 50 battles? thats a Feat. Did your blobmon just got maximum HP possible through countless hours of training? Thats a feat too. >Think what sort of player behavior your system encourages and try to align it with what you want your players to feel.I kinda want to recreate the feeling of DW1 where you feel pumped when you get that ultra after a lot of effort, though the requirements here are made available through the game lore so it doesn't require countless hours of trial and error or datamine to understand, and also makes getting a 'hyper' form unexpectedly maybe just when you needed it some good reward too. It may be repetitive though but I want to make a big enough roster so that it merits at least 1 replay.
>>3250093Honestly, I don't hate DW2's jogress system in concept. Its just the way it was implanted that was so fuckin grindy, the fact you had like 100 steps in the dungeon before you got kicked out, battle animations taking so long, etc that made it so bad. But the idea of constantly having to fuse your monsters to make them stronger, even if they start from a lower form again is interesting. The real problem is it's only done for the level cap. If they made it a bit more like SMT, and you could carry over skills and maybe some other traits, increase your base stats, etc, then I think it would be a really fun system. Raising a Digimon up to Ultimate level then fusing it with another Digimon to get a Child level again but it carries over some cool ability that you want to get on a different Ultimate would be fun imo.
Level-5's 25th anniversary site. They will be announcing release dates for games in the next few weeks. Maybe we'll get some Yokai Watch news since it is in the anniversary logo.https://www.level5.co.jp/25th/
>>3250824Them taking like 4 years to localize YKW4 just for China, when it literally required censoring some of the bosses because of Chinese censorship, and not localizing anywhere else despite the fact they wouldn't need whole-ass model replacements is just so baffling.
>>3250155Too many random unneeded lines that are 3 stages and the titans are damage sponges
>>3250943>titans are damage spongesThis is like the worst feature in the game. Why even add a mechanic so lame and unfun?
>>3250830more people buy it in china after localization than the west
>>3250575>three branching final formsThis sounds like the telefang games. Which is based
>>3251057Not that anon but branching final forms are always a good thing and I wish more games did that. My favorite were the demikids games on GBA were your starter could end up looking like 4 different ways.
Can someone sell me on Yo-Kai Watch? It seems charming but I haven't had time to begin a new game before I finish my games in progress.Is it more story-driven than Pokémon? The battle system looks interesting but also a little too simple. Are the stories good? And should they be played in order or can some games be skipped without any problems?
>>3251305>The battle system looks interesting but also a little too simple It's also stupidly easy except for some post-game bosses. The series is for young children.>Are the stories good?They're passable, and there are some funny parts but you aren't going to remember the game for a narrative.>And should they be played in orderNo, skip the first one.In my opinion, the main appeal of the series is the presentation, the amount of stuff to do, and the designs. The combat is only engaging during bosses since they're all gimmicky. The city you explore is really detailed and full of stuff to find. You have loads of quests to fulfill. 3 has a second game in it. And the designs are mostly goofy and weird because they're foreign folklore and puns lost in translation. So it's a nice pallet cleanser from a more serious series. Though be warned getting yo-kai can get really tedious but it's the good kind where you spend an hour trying to get this egg to join you and when it finally does you'll be on could nine for a minute. Also, you will never 100% one without cheating as the nokos are Streetpass exclusive.
>>3251305The auto-battle nature of the games is deceptive. It starts off easy, but bosses and some encounters can be genuinely very hectic with the stuff you DO have to manage, from soultimates to removing inspirates to swapping yo-kai around and healing them. 3 adds a bit more to it as the grid-based system more akin to Megaman Battle Network is more to deal with over the wheel from 1 and 2.I'd also highly recommend the Blasters spin-off. Imagine a Monster Hunter game, but you can play as over 400 different characters. For me personally it's the best YKW experience, though it depends on your preferences. Though I also need to finish YKW3, which also has damn-near it's own full-game Blasters side content to do whenever you feel like it, so it terms of sheer content and variety, YKW3 is far and away the most jam packed.
>>3251333Thank you for the long reply!From your description it sounds like something I might actually enjoy, so I'll download 2 and 3, to see how I like it. The different versions are just like Pokémon, right? The only differences are available monsters?>Though be warned getting yo-kai can get really tedious but it's the good kind where you spend an hour trying to get this egg to join you and when it finally does you'll be on could nine for a minute.That does sound pretty good, actually. I like games with rewards I have to be a little patient for.>Also, you will never 100% one without cheating as the nokos are Streetpass exclusive.I'm not a completionist, so I don't care about this, although it's a little sad players can't obtain everything if they want to. Can't that get bypassed by some CFW mod?>>3251354Thanks to you too.I've never heard of Blasters but your description makes it sound pretty cool. I'll take a look at some videos, maybe I'll start with that one, actually. Or would it be better to get familiar with the world and characters first through the main series games?
>>3251354>I'd also highly recommend the Blasters spin-off. Imagine a Monster Hunter game, but you can play as over 400 different characters.Snack World is a polished take on Blasters. It also has the enemy capture mechanic, making it appropriate for this thread.
>>3251057>telefang gamesNever heard about those, but turns out I got one of them as a bootleg Pokemon from Eastern Europe when I was a kid. Never managed to get past level 10 or so.What I planned were less traditional mons, with potentially hundreds in a game, but rather 10ish RPG companions. Fantasy races instead of mons because making a character creator for humanoids is easier than learning to draw & animate all those creatures. I considered a normal mon game too(I think my combat system suits the genre well), but I haven't found what I could deliver that other games don't already do better.Basically, as you go through the game your dialogue choices change various narrative stats and those decide what skills/forms become available. So you would go:>base: lizardman squire from a disgraced noble family, out to restore the honor of his name>eventually turns out the family really are dirtbags >unlock Dragonborn "paladin" form by helping him live up to the noble ideals, even if they're just a fantasy>unlock Salamander "bard" form by helping him free himself of familial expectations>unlock Wyrm "dark knight" form in the Evil route by completely mindbreaking the poor guy and making him embrace all the materialism and corruption running rampant amongst the nobillityThree forms per companion, main character is a shapeshifter that can copy any unlocked form. Some additional forms might be aquired from dungeons and what not. Keep the game itself short with branching endings so that people can go to NG+ cycles to collect all the forms.
>>3250669>Depending on the criteria completed the monster gets a permanent boon aside from the typical growth stats and skills.In that case I'd stick to a three mon chain at the longest. With that system you can probably make branching paths really easily, like elemental recolors or one form for all the offensive challenges vs. a second one from all the defensive ones. Do you have any way for the player to figure out which challenges to go after or does each mon just get a small subset? Might also help if some boons bring a visual change, makes the player feel more accomplished.I'd probably throw in some exceptions to the system just to make it feel less artificial. Like a legendary that doesn't get a seperate form after completing all challenges, but only slight alterations because it's now in an awakened state. Or a ghost mon you get by sacrificing another one and the ghost inherits the completed challenges. Life is messy and full of special cases, I like fiction to reflect that.
>>3251175I think digimon survive had the right idea but its lame that the branches are tied to the path score.
>>3251447>In that case I'd stick to a three mon chain at the longestI think you're right I feel like I have exhausted ideas to make the 4 stages be different enough from each other to avoid the 'it just gets bigger trope' (which I personally hate) but maybe the awakened state could be a slightly altered adult form that gets X or Y physical change depending on the challenge it has completed, like you suggested so it ties both systems together.>Do you have any way for the player to figure out which challenges to go after or does each mon just get a small subset?The player goes on quests to get access to monsters, items that alter raising and lorestones from an ancient civilization that has clues on how best to raise monsters, so its a matter of playing the game.>Some exceptions to the systemI've thought about this but I will probably build it after the main system so yeah !legendaries or special mons have exceptions too.
>>3251442>turns out I got one of them as a bootleg Pokemon from Eastern Europe when I was a kid.Yes thats 'pokemon diamond/ jade', most people played it as that and then learned about them afterwards. Translation was bad and the game was full of bugs (i.e. saving freezed the game) but its worth a playthrough (using vba save states) and some mons are cool, they feel like some point between pokemon and digimon art styles.
>>3251361Blasters is itself is based off a simpler little side-game in YKW2 where you played as the Yo-Kai. The spin-off proper takes that idea and greatly expands on it. It's generally self-contained, and any reference to previous games are minor. It's a mission-based, more boss-focused kind of game, as said similar to Monster Hunter, whereas mainline are more JRPGs, albeit pretty unique ones in their flow and general vibes.It's up to you. Only thing is is that Blasters is at it's beak with multiplayer. The AI team mates aren't the best, and while it is possible to solo everything, it's genuinely really difficult, and multiplayer is generally the best way to play it. Thankfully you can do multiplayer on citra, but it's gonna be way harder to get it than back when Blasters was new, especially since 3DS servers are going offline in the near future.>>3251385I mean, you still befriend Yo-Kai in Blasters, so I'd say it still counts for these threads.
>>3251676>I mean, you still befriend Yo-Kai in BlastersI know. I just wanted to emphasize that Snack World maintains every mechanic from YWB, including befriending, so reccomending it isn't off-topic.
>>3251739Fair. I feel like I heard of Snack World, but I haven't seen like, any gameplay of it. If it's really like Blasters I'll have to check it out.
>Its a yokai won't join you despite shoving the best food down its gullet and have a team of 6 popularity episode
>>3251923Popularity doesn't stack. It doesn't even stack with the Superstar Soul.If there's anything I can fault YKW for as a series, is how grindy it is just from sheer RNG.
Level-5 trademarked "Ghost Craft" recently. Think it might be related to the teased Yokai Watch game?https://www.twitter.com/nmtysrs/status/1714256345829118160
>>3252076Nah, it'll be a new series
We desperately need stories 3
Someone shillpill me on Monster Sanctuary please. It's either I try something new or play Azure Dreams again. How has no one made an Azure Dreams clone? Monster catching roguelike is a fun mashup.
>>3252895Monster Sanctuary is pretty solid overall. The fact that you have access to every monster you've collected at any time mean there's no hassle in swapping them around or using their field abilities to get past obstacles, as it's a Metroidvania where the movement/puzzle power ups are also monsters you fight with. And I enjoy the combat in general as well.It's also got in-built other modes like Nuzlocke and Randomizer, which to me is a plus.Only downside I'd say it really has that the monsters are pretty underwhelming overall. some are neat but overall they mostly just feel generic and are there to fill a roster.
>>3252947Monsters being lame sounds like a big drawback but the games pretty cheap right now so I'll give it a try I guess.
>>3250155he's a dumb baby digimon
>>3252895Shiren the Wanderer 2 has monster catching. Shiren 5 has friendship licenses that allow all members of a species to stop being hostile towards you. Shiren 1&3 have monster meat that allows you to temporarily transform into monsters and use their unique abilities. Torneko 3 has monster recruitment if you play as Torneko's son. I think Young Yangus also has monster catching, but I haven't played far enough into it to see if it actually does.
>>3209557Depending on the game there can be a lot. All digimon games can have up to 6 evolutions that have more and more difficult evolution requirements as you go. A large aspect of managing the tamogatchi based ones is that digivolution requirements are very specific and digimon die and you start again every few hours. The turn based ones tend to have a system where you can devolve while retaining stats traits and moves
happy halloween, /mon/. let's celebrate by posting some of our favorite spooky mons.
>>3254249Aren't monsters spooky by definition?>capcha DGM24JScreencap this, new digimon game july 2024
>>3254249>>3254424then post peak spookymons then
>>3254464is this spooky enough
Any fun ideas for yokai watch challenge runs?
>>3254249Happy Halloween!Yeah yeah I know. But the sequel came out and it's genuinely really good. Even on Normal it feels more difficult than the harder difficulties in the first game, new element and weapon types, and there content is spread out really nicely so that the total 207 monsters aren't too cramped together. I haven't experimented with the whole Buddy system yet but that has potential for some crazy synergies. Plus it has actual native controller support now.And hey now there's an option to skip the h-scenes so you can focus entirely on the gameplay.
>>3254585No one is interested in your gay child porn I have no idea why you think this is an appropriate place to post that shit
>>3254585You sure have it good, Shotafags...
So why does no one ever talk about Monster Girl Quest even though it's also a Mon game?
>>3254671Paradox is the only one that really counts towards the idea, and even then you're not gonna get too much discussion about an h-game outside of the h-game threads.
god damn the recruitment rate in yokai wach is low as balls
>>3255117Yeah, I wonder how it's calculated. I am 40% sure it was trying to do an Aria of Sorrow souls thing where they're rare to the point that if you play casually you are going to end up with a unique assortment and you could just streepass and trade for the rest. But I can also believe it's calculated in a way that looks fine and it was just never fixed in the sequels.
https://youtu.be/Q1MGjqiDFhQSaw this in my recommendeds. Interesting topic, but the guy only goes ever very few examples, and the end of it is pretty much just him going on about how he's thinking about the mechanics of his own game that he's making.At least it was highlighted that the genre did start off completely devoid of any capturing devices, and that Megami Tensei, Dragon Quest V, and Digimon focused more on the monsters being equals rather than pets. And then once Pokemon came along the dynamic completely shifted now almost everything uses some kind of capturing device.
>>3256059I hate that the capturing device is a staple since it tends to become more bland on every iteration. And I haven't seen many improvements mechanicamly either. The most devs deviate from the trope is nexomon having quick time events to increase capture rate. I can't believe Pokemon hasn't implemented that after decades.
>>3256157Pokemon hasn't implemented that because everyone already knows that rapidly pressing B after the throwing animation will cause the capture rates to go up.
Are there any games that carbon copy the digimon world games as there are for pokemon?
>>3256718The only games that really come to mind with similar stat and death mechanics are Monster Rancher ones.Otherwise, I don't think anything else really captures the same structure of>explore world with 1-2 partner monsters that you raise and will die and have to raise againI really can't think of any that even have similar exploration, let alone everything else.
>>3256661Everyone knows its B+down pad, stop spreading misinformation.
>>3256721Hm, I think raisers are just not that popular.
>>3256735They really aren't. Raising stats in them is by nature repetitive. The real filter though are the death mechanics. Most people just can't deal with the idea needing to restart the stat-raising stuff once a monster dies.The best that specific genre has gotten was with the re-release of MR1-2 where 2 ended up being a solid stream game because it's laid-back, repetitive nature made it easy for streamers to talk to the chat a lot.
>>3257046>Raising stats in them is by nature repetitiveI find monster rancher does this best, and even then the fun factor is not quite there. Maybe more randomness should play a role or a way to make the player decisions while raising count (i.e. training Power 3 times in a row makes the third one be an even bigger gain)>Most people just can't deal with the idea needing to restart the stat-raising stuff once a monster diesI have some ideas on how to fix this but I'm not sure if they could work.
>>3257429Let's hear 'em.
I think they are mostly DW1 improvements. The idea is to just make trained stats be inherited baseline to the next generation. Each time you train that stat level gets accumulated so when your mon dies and you start raising another that collected stat gets added to the new mons. You would eventually reach max stats so it needs to be balanced (or gatekept) so that the player can't reach this by the start of the game. I'd make it kinda like in BoF dragon quarter (not a mongo but still an interesting mechanic), each time a monster life cycle ends, it increases the maximum trained stat you can pass. So in the end you wouldn't need to train that much to reach where you previously were.
>>3256059>No mention of the COMPIn most games, the COMP is the main reason you're able to see, communicate with, and store demons in the first place. Creators of the demon summoning program are notable characters, and the Devil Summoner games has objects like saxophone, umbrella, and special cannisters as objects for demon storage. Games like Nocturne or V are the exceptions. Granted the main process of getting demons is just straight up convincing them and his overall points are sound, but I think it's still counts as a device. Am I nitpicking?>>3256157I love them a lot because I add some kind of flavor to the setting, I just fucking hate boring ones like like in temtem or nexomon
>>3259638>It adds some kind of flavor to the settingYeah but they are pretty similar all in all. The most distinct one I can think of is contracts from monster crown and even then it doesn't have any deep mechanic, it just fails if the monster is higher level than yours.
Anyone got good mon games for Vita?
>>3260188wasn't digimon re digitze in that?
>>3231146are you talking about moco moco friends?i sure hope you are
>>3233073I'd love to have my memory wiped to play mhs2 again
>>3260209Re:Digitize was on PSP. Vita got Cyber Sleuth and Next Order (but I think Next Order requires a translation patch on Vita).>>3260188World of Final Fantasy
>>3259638>Am I nitpicking?I think the main point is the 'capture' aspect of these devices. SMT has the COMP and such, but those in it of themselves aren't used for capturing the demons outright, moreso simple storage as a way of explaining why you can walk around without this big party following behind you. In a similar vein, Digivices in most Digimon media aren't used for literally storing Digimon, moreso just being able to create the bond between Tamer and Digimon.Yo-Kai Watch also does it pretty well, in having the more random befriend chance of Dragon Quest, but the medals Yo-kai give aren't some storage device, but rather a way to summon them from elsewhere through the Watch. And hell the anime even shows that Yo-Kai can ignore the summoning if they want to.
>>3260209>>3260523>Re:Digitized>World of Final Fantasy>both games that got ports with more content on other consolesAnd not like the Vita games fair any better in that regard.
>>3260554He didn't specify "Vita exclusive"
>>3260563I know, moreso mentioning it because the best way to play these games almost always ends up not being PSP/Vita.
>>3260554>That huge difference in qualityHow does that fucking work? I'm curious do they just replace the props or what?
>>3260570Doesn't the Vita Invizimals require the AR cards? And doesn't it have connectivity with the PS3 Invizimals? How does that work, I wonder? Is it like connecting the GB Pokémon to Pokémon Stadium?
>>3260188MeiQ Labyrinth of Death
>>3260966hold up that's just a digimon
>>3260989No it's an Ultra Kaiju
>>3260989Not really. Also the game is more like Medabots.
>switch emulator to 70% speed to be able to find yokai betterhow the fuck are children meant to do this on a real ds
>>3261172Are you talking about YW1 switch port? On the 3ds it was easy to fill up the detection meter with the stylus.
Which do you prefer?>Mons can evolve into bigger, stronger mons>Mons can be fused into stronger mons>Mons can be both evolved and fused>Mons look the same forever after obtaining itOr, if theres a game that fits none of the options above, how does it worl?
>>3263247>>Mons can be both evolved and fused>>Mons look the same forever after obtaining itNo reason to not have all three, have mons which change and mons which doesn't is a good thing.
>>3263247>Mons can evolve into bigger, stronger monsThis on almost all cases
>>3263275The last option was more of a "Theres no evos or fusions or anything like that, you get it like that and itll keep being that" optionGames with evos/fusions normally have a lot of mons that are already fully evolved/formed from the get go, specially the rare mons
Does DQM3 have difficulty settings? I didn't notice one in the demo and the demo seems really easy so far
>>3263247The World of Final Fantasy way. Once you unlock an evolution, you get the stat bonuses but you can choose if the monster stays small or big.
>>3263764God World of Final Fantasy would be improved SO much if the main characters had a Small form, or if the post-game unlock of removing them from the party was always available.I wonder if there's any mods for that.
>>3263770I don't understand how cool monster designs can coexist with the chibby aesthetic
>>3263770I'd like a second game without chibis, one more topple and no humans fighting.>>3263780It doesn't, but the monsters are good so I overlook it.
>>3263780Because chibis are, in fact, based
>>3265532Wrong opinion but ok
>>3263780Chibi has never really bothered me on it's own most of the time. I find it funnier that the whole chibi form thing is part of the game's lore even.Only time Chibi has bothered me is with Ni No Kuni 2 because the first game didn't have any for it's overworld, and it feels tacked on for the sake of it's dumb RTS segments.
>>3265613Never tried ni no kuni really. Stories 2 already showed that ditching chibi yields more sales.
>>3265633I wouldn't call Stories 1 chibi. 2 is more proportional but 1 would be like at, the very least end of chibi when you compare it to what people generally think chibi is like.Also Stories 2 sold more for a wide variety of reasons.>1 wast barely advertised whereas 2 was quite heavily advertised>at the tail-end of 3DS lifespan>2 came after World making MH mainstream>2 simultaneously released on Switch and PCSure the art style being less overtly childish likely played some factor, but it's minor compared to all the other ones.
>>3265652>>2 came after World making MH mainstreamMH was never niche retardo2 was sold more because they finally knew what the target audience was.1 was made for literal children while 2 is made more for teenagers.
>>3265774In Japan sure. But you're lying to yourself if you think MH was on the level of Capcom's other big franchises until World globally. The fact that P3rd never got localized and was the best selling MH until World proved that Japan did a lot of the heavy lifting for the franchise's sales until 5th gen.Again, the shift in models and tone certainly helped, but it was far from the only reason it succeeded.
>>3265790>In Japan surestories 1 flopped in japan too
>>3265795Yeah, because of the other reasons mentioned.Stories 1 released in 2016 in Japan and 2017 everywhere else. Same year the Switch came out. It's happened to many other games that sold at the end of a console's lifespan.I agree with you that the style and tone shift was for the better, just that it wasn't some extreme contributing factor to the success/failure of either game.
All this stories talk just makes me wish stories 3 as announced even more
>>3265802>I agree with you that the style and tone shift was for the betterThat was me, not the anon you're discussing with right now. I just didn't reply that you're probably right about this post >>3265652 because I was lazy.
>>3265802anon pokemon sun and moon was released in 2016 with ultra sun and moon coming out next year
>>3265810I believe this is the most relevant factor to why it flop.>Same niche>Same audience>Same release seasonThey were beging to be called pokemon at home
>level 5 delaying some of their announced gamesYokai Watch bros, the wait for news is likely going to get longer.
>>3266612>Level 5 being retardedBusiness as usual.
>>3266612Man I am so happy I stumbled across the Blasters++ mod. Pretty much the only YKW content in years.They're going to start adding more playable bosses, and they even started finding out a way to port Yo-Kai from YKW3 to it. Also maps from the first two games too. It's nuts.
Level-5 is doing another Visions stream. 0.01% chance they sneak in some surprise Yokai Watch news.https://www.gematsu.com/2023/11/level-5-vision-2023-ii-set-for-november-29
>>3267375So was there any news?
Are Robopon, Metal Walker and Medarot also allowed to be discussed here?
>>3272231Yes, I love medarot. Didn't really bother with the other two.
>>3272231Robopon 2 has some nice wacky writing
>>3272231A mecha/robot mon game is still a mon game. Though Metal Walker always makes me laugh because of how much the image on the front looks like Meta-Knight.
So we have Anode Herat releasing on the 17th, Dragon Quest Monsters 3 releasing on December 1st, and then Pokemon DLC in mid-December. Is that it for the rest of the year?2023 has been a pretty weak year for /mon/ games, especially after 2021 and 2022 felt like they were packed with them.
>>3265813>>3265810Wasn't the Digimon Appmon game released a week after Sun and Moon too?3 mon games at roughly the same time is kinda crazy
>>3273359I didn't even hear about appmon during 2016
I wonder if I'll ever find it in me to do a full replay of Magi Nation. Great mon game but definitely a bit of a timesink.
>>3273389JP only I'm pretty sure
>>3209483>did you ever get lucky enough for a Magical Key world that had boss monstersYeah, but it sucks. You can't actually capture any of the monsters there; they just reject the food.
Post your favorite slimeI love this little guy like you wouldn't believe
>>3273647I don't like slimes at all
>>3273978anon's a fagoop
>>3273647Ever since DQ5 this guy's always been my niggest of niggas, and to that extent I hope Shogum makes a comeback so I can autism my way into fusing him.
>>3274275I always wondered if the knight is a separate entity, or just the slime entering the suit
>>3274535In the tank game, the knight was just a doll so I'm pretty sure it's the latter.
>>3274535Depends on the game, but the most common notion is that they're separate beings who bonded so hard that they basically count as one entity.
Does DQM2 3DS lock anything behind the online feature? I've been playing it on my hacked 3DS but it's the 1.0 version that can't go online, I'd need to update it and I don't want to bother with the hassle if there's nothing locked behind the online.
Good afternoon I hate Square Enix
>>3209092Does this game just look cheap because it's a Switch exclusive? How did the Switch handle DQXI? Praying my homie Goodybag's game is good bros.
less than 2 weeks until DQM3
>>3277712>Does this game just look cheap because it's a Switch exclusive?it looks cheap because it is a low budget spin-off
>>3278399Played the demo ages ago, remember it was clunky but had potential.
Copies of the game are out in the wild. Anyone got a news of an upload yet?
>>3277712It's like treasures, the switch can't handle shit, so it looks like garbage.
>>3277712>>3278532Eh, wouldn't say it's all the Switch's fault. Stories 2 still looks pretty good with it's environments and whatnot.It's hard to shake the feeling that Squenix just isn't putting much stock into Monsters 3. Not just from budget, but with the day-1 DLC and non-existent marketing too.
>>3277712>>3278532You're a complete fucking mongoloid if you think it's the Switch's fault instead of Square being kikes and not giving any budget to spinoffs because they need to burn all of their budget on final fantashit projects that will all bomb instead. DQXI on switch looks way better than DQM3, it's not a fault of the hardware, it's the fault of not being any fucking budget on this project.Square and Enix merging was a mistake.
>>3278729>>3278543>>3278193That is too bad, hopefully the game is fun anyway. If Squeenix had any sense they would capitalize on how irate people are with Game Freak for phoning in their games and really hit their own monster game out of the park, maybe get some disgruntled people on their side, there is a wealth of good press waiting for them if they just make a killer game. Posting more Goodybag as a prayer offering
>>3278739Fucking christ how did I forget again
>>3278739>>3278740From what the demo offers, I get the feeling it'll satiate anyone that's got the autism for grinding and fusing, unfortunate visuals and performance aside. Probably not to the sheer degree of customization as Joker 3 Pro, but it makes sense to reel things back into reason since this is actually DQM3. Maybe things get insane in postgame for all I know, but I'm looking forward to invariably gravitating towards a ragtag team of slimes and whatever boss monsters are easily attainable.
Brehs I need stories 3 to come out or I'll die
>>3278914They are gonna make it right? Stories 2 seems like it did pretty well overall
>>3278957From an interview after stories 2 release>RGJ: If Stories 2 does well, what are the chances that we’ll get a Stories 3 or other spinoffs from the Monster Hunter series done at a similar level?>Tsujimoto: Regarding Stories 3, we’ve been focused so much on Stories 2 and pouring all our energy into it that we haven’t given much thought to another sequel yet. We want to make sure we’re focusing all our attention on what’s in front of us. As far as new spinoffs within the series, if we come up with good ideas that we would like to deliver to fans, then the possibility isn’t zero, of course. Generally, we start with an idea and use that to create a new world view. For Stories, for example, Oguro had an idea for an RPG from the perspective of a rider who befriends monsters instead of slaying them and I thought it was interesting. That’s where Stories got its footing and if we have another idea that we can build on regarding Monster Hunter’s world, then we would pursue it. We just want to make sure we have a solid foundation before we do so.Aside from that there was a leak that mh6 is coming for switch2 but thats about it. Rise and stories 2 where announced simoultaneously I think? So perhaps when mh6 gets news we will now if they are working on stories 3 or not.
>>3278957With the sheer ambition Stories 2 had with cut content, from monster names in the files to dropped mechanics like the 5x5 Gene grid and keeping Element swapping, I think it's clear that there's still a lot more they can do with Stories. And given it's success, it feels all the more likely.I'm hoping that old leak about Stories 2 getting a Rise-themed expansion is true, and they decided not to do it because they figured they may well save that content for Stories 3.>>3278979I also feel like with the 20th Anniversary of MH being next year, that it'd be announced around that time too. MHNow feels like a pretty low-budget game that just exists to hold people over until the good stuff comes around.
>>3209092Can someone give me quick review of Fossil Fighters if you played it? Not a link, just a personal opinion of the game if its good or not
>>3279740It's a wacky kids game. The gameplay revolves around cleaning fossils and using the dinosaurs they turn into to fight. On my replay of it, I greatly enjoyed it but for mostly non-gameplay factors. The battles are just fine but the cleaning is super satisfying. I almost want to recommend it for that alone.
>>3279758Does the cleaning work on emulator?
>>3279767Only if you have a microphone. The phone one works.
>>3279767Quite well actually. It's more about precision than speed so it translates quite nicely. The only issue is the lack of a mic but you can just map a button to it or hit the table with your hammer to shake dust off.
>>3274814I haven't played in a long time but I think there's a bunch of themed world keys that you can get once a day, which have some online exclusive monsters like the rocket slime boat and some Japanese general themed monsters. I'm also pretty sure the online lobby shop is the only way to consistently get stat boosting items and rare eggs but I could be wrong as I don't think I got to the true postgame.
>>3279740Very solid. Cleaning is unique and satisfying, and the story actually becomes surprisingly interesting later on in the game. The battle system is fairly unique too with how zones and buffs work.I'd also highly recommend the sequel Champions as well, primarily because the combat keeps the same ideas, but is greatly improved upon over the first. Plus more fossil variety and ways to clean basic fossils faster. Plus there's some more variety in the Viviosaurs.>>3279767Very well. The mic cleaning can just be mapped to a button. And if you really want to get 100% on cleaning? I think save states are fair game. It's so hard to get 100 legit, especially with some fossil types.
>>3279758>>3279789Alright, i'll give it a try tomorrow, thanks
Hey mon, some News for you guys. Monster Crown is getting a sequel.https://twitter.com/crowns_devTruth to be told getting mixed feelings on this, first game still remains a buggy glitchy mess, but this time around Neurosis got an actual team so maybe things will be less of a buggy glitch mess.
>>3281196>troon lovers can't make a quality gameshocking
>>3281196>First game is still a glitchy mess>Lets put all our efforts on a sequelSounds like gamefreak and I'm sure these guys don't have an iwata on their team. Still I hope they make a good game.
>>3281196Last time I played it was like 2 years ago when he added those weird randomly generated dungeons, I had a good time with the game but it was really glitchy and felt very unfinished overall, first time I hear about the DLC too, maybe I'll pick it up and give the game another run
Anybody played Azure Dreams? I found this on my downloads folder and I don't recall playing it but sprites look cool
>>3283233yeahyou want to play the PS1 releaseI enjoyed it very much and searched far and wide for something similar but never found anything like it
>>3283556Already started with the gbc one and its solid. Does the PS1 have similar gameplay? GBC game is a roguelike
>>3283563the GBC one is a gimped port of the PS1 with a lot of side stuff missingIf you liked it you'll like the PS1 version
>>3283565Nice will do. I have a feeling I can look into this game and get a lot of ideas for my mon game.
Finally got around to beating Yo-Kai Watch 3 for the first time. Here was my team for the final boss, and most of the game really.Man, what an absolutely packed game. Not only so much content, but so much polish on top of that. Just so many things to do, I still got more than half of Zombie Night to do and I barely even touched Blasters T, and now I got post-game stuff to do too. Took me 61 hours to do the main story, and that's with only doing roughly a bit more than half of the side quests.Story is dumb and fun. Hard to imagine this game would have parodies of things like X Files, Mr. X, and Deadpool. Plus, y'know, Steve Jobs and Mark Zuckerberg.The new grid combat does feel more satisfying than the wheel from 1 and 2. Just more dynamic and ways it can be played around with.Quite frankly I think my only real complaint about the game is Hailey. Just generally pretty annoying and says dumb shit even in important scenes. I can see why the Japanese fanbase hates her. Plus swapping between her and Nate is just kinda tedious. If they had to keep that feature in, making it Katie would've worked just fine. Glad that it looks like I can completely ignore playing her in the post-game now.Given I still got so much to do, I can feel pretty confident in giving the game a 9/10.Also, Rongo Swirll's full minute drum solo pausing the boss fight is peak.
Did anybody play monster rancher DS? Errantries play like a mario party game lmao
>>3284308That team's kinda gay NGL.
>>3284317yeahit was kind of bland compared to the PS1 and PS2 games
>>3278399The designs overall aren't bad so far, but this thing is straight up furry shit.
>>3256718I'd really like a Monster Rancher game that apes DW1 a bit. Give it a more primitive and tribal setting like 3, and give us a map to explore with mechanics similar to 4's dungeon crawling but mashed with Digimon World.
>>3284522Thats roughly my idea for a game, raising and dungeon crawling.
>>3281196My only memory of Monster Crown is being chased by the level ~20 jellyfish monsters that spawn in water but were buggy and would aggro from far away, chase you onto dry land and into the first town. I thought they looked cool so I eventually managed to catch one, but dropped the game not long after since even if you ignore the bugs the gameplay just isn't very fun.
>>3284494Looks like Bing image creator.
>>3284606I will now buy your game.>>3284695Holy kek, it really does. I should probably play this smaller and windowed.
>>3284744>NowYou'll probably need to wait a couple of years, but I'll do it 4U
>>3284766>You'll probably need to wait a couple of years
What's the performance like for Dark Prince on Switch? I keep hearing about issues but nothing specific.
>>3285388I played the demo and had some pretty consistent framedrops.
>>3285411Fuck. Guess I'll wait then.
>>3285414Yeah, I can usually stomach stuff like that but it CHUGGED hard.
>>3285418Maybe they'll release a patch at release, but I'm not holding out hope.
>>3285418It wasn't as bad as Treasures though. That game was basically unplayable due to frame rate.
>>3285411Could it work better on emu?
>>3285418Does yuzu allow network/online play?
>>3209092>With the new DQM on the horizon are going to play the others to catch-up?I'm just getting into dq but I havent touched the monsters series yet, which ones are worth playing?
>>3288899all of them
>>3288899The only one really worth skipping is Caravan Heart. But a couple of others like the remake of the first game and Joker 1 in that tier of not being bad but are in series with significantly better entries. So just don't make any of the ones I named your first unless you're the kind of guy who plays a middle-of-the-road entry as his first to make the better ones feel more grand.
>>3288899DWM1 and 2 if you want to see how the series got its start, Joker if you want a similarly basic game that starts to set up the foundation of the modern DQM games, Cobi & Tara's Marvelous Mysterious Key if you want a modern DQM that's close to where DQM3 (Dark Prince) is in terms of baseline mechanics.Don't play Joker 3 or its Pro version until you've already sampled enough DQM to be familiar with the series, and especially not before DQM3. Joker 3, especially Pro, while their monster rosters aren't impressive, have the most unhinged teambuilding of the franchise and have mountains of postgame monster customizability.
>>3289007Caravan Heart isn't a bad game. It's just different.
Well Yo-Kaibros, do we have hope?
>>3290318Against my better judgment, I do.
>>3290318i am bracing myself for this to be meaningless, and even if a new game is announced it won't be released here.
>>3290318The webpage https://www.level5.co.jp/vision2023-2/en/ doesn't list Yokai Watch as one of the games featured, so I sadly do not the optimism.
>>3290318>LEVEL-5.>Hope in putting out a product in english if at all in a timely manner.Nope.
>in monster rancher 3 the monsters adapt to their surroundings and change subspecies if you raise them in another environmentHave I been baited into thinking MR3 was bad or is this a case of good concept bad execution? I'll probably give this one a try.
>>3290318Please don't be one of the the weird spin offsPlease don't be one of the the weird spin offsPlease don't be one of the the weird spin offs
>>3290448Doesn't mean it's happening, but if it was, why would they ruin a surprise announcement? Anyway, I think it's more likely they'll wait a couple more months still. I doubt they want to take attention away from their soon to be released new games yet, but they should hurry up releasing the game on Switch.
>>3291133The actual mechanic to it is kind of lazy, but was probably so you could avoid having it changed if you want.The game is also absurdly easy without you even having to break it by knowing some super efficient routine. It looks really nice if you don't mind how cartoony some monsters look, though most designs never recovered afterward to how they look in 2 which is disappointing, and having multiple ranches with an exploration event around them every few months is kind of cool.I can understand why a lot of people didn't like it on release, but each game is so different from each other at this point that you can probably find something to like about it.
>>3291351Well just started, there's no kidding 6 unskippable cutscenes that you have to mash through before you get to actually play. Everything else looks fine, its your typical MR game although attacks are different, skill and speed were combined into one (not a bad change really), the searching around your farm minigame is kinda lame.
>>3290448 (You)>>3291209I was (sadly) correct. Only Yokai Watch news was that mobage is profitable.
>>3292430They showed the new yokai they teased a while back. They also announced another Visions for April where they said a new game will be announced. So looks like we'll have to wait a few months for news.https://www.gematsu.com/2023/11/level-5-vision-2024-to-the-worlds-children-set-for-april-2024
Did the new DQM leak yet?
>>3292538Doesn't seem like it looking at any of the usual suspects for leak info, there's probably a few street date breakers that know better than to invoke SE's wrath and are simply keeping quiet until release.
>>3292547>know better than to invoke SE's wrathEvery SE physical switch release has had its street date broken though
>>3292552I'm talking about posting something online, not the simple act of getting the game early.
I can’t find an answer online, will the new DQM have online battles? If so, do you guys think it’ll be competitive at all?
>>3292562It will, there was a press release earlier this month that confirmed the details.https://press.na.square-enix.com/Multiplayer-Returns-in-DRAGON-QUEST-MONSTERS-The-Dark-Prince
>>3292555So am I.
>>3292562>will the new DQM have online battles?all DQM games since DS has online battle.>If so, do you guys think it’ll be competitive at all?Not sure about DQM3 but in older games, it is competitive but "competitive DQM" isn't turn by turn decision making like pokemon. It is mostly AI auto-battler and the focus is team building.
>>3291770I actually like 3 and always have, but it is most definitely a flawed game. I played it last winter for the first time in over a decade, and I blasted my way to S rank with my first monster. I didn't even trigger any events outside of the intro one for each region. It's not a terribly interesting experience that way. I might pick it back up and occasionally consult a guide just to make sure I'm not blowing straight past content.
>>3292627Overall I'm liking the game but the pace is weird. Battles are kinda easy, I picked a zoom and after an hour I'm already C rank with just 2 skills. I know I need to find certain items to get new skills and level them up but I have only came across 2 noisy halls and the lord of the skills. So I guess progression is clunky.
>>3292881I think you can find the skill bits when searching, but they're also rewards for certain tournaments. If you want to be at least a little efficient, and you probably do because skills take forever to increase, you should hit all three noisy halls once you memorize their locations, and then spend whatever points you have left on poking around. I think the 300 ran leaf is the best pick, but do whatever if you have the money.
>>3209092Is this in the US too?
Yokai Watch 5 teaserhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3YHVRsyMiYg
>>3293148So what are we thinking? Full on reboot? Is gonna be Jibanyan now, and old Jibanyan be relegated to a cameo as the retro design?
>>3293178The smart thing would be to go the Digimon route and just have every game be completely separate with some cameos. The yokai in the teaser is probably a new one, and Jibanyan will be available somewhere in the game.. Also Level-5 trademarked the title Ghost Craft a few months ago, so the title is probably Yokai Watch: Ghost Craft.
>>3293178I'm betting either no reboot and that new cat will just be a new addition to the main cast or a soft reboot and Jibanyan will be in the post-game at least. There's no way there's going to be a full reboot. The less they change the more assets they can reuse to save money and rope people in with nostalgia.
>>3292995>they're also rewards for certain tournamentsI'll pay more attention to tournaments then, I also haven't found how to switch ranches yet.
>>3292555It finally leaked.
I got hooked on tactics ogre remake and I'm looking forward to making an all monster run as soon as possible, what is the best game where monging is optional?
>>3293596FFT with Ramza+all monsters is funTales of Symphonia 2 with Emil+all monsters is also fun
>>3293596Dragon Quest 5
>>3293725>Tales of Symphonia 2 ... is also funStop telling lies on the internet.
Why does this game looks worse than PS2 games...
>>3293879I dunno man, the environments seriously looked better in DQ8
>>3293725>FFT with Ramza+all monsters is funnicee, I forgot I had downloaded that>Tales of Symphonia 2 dropped after an hour yeah its not my kinda game
>>3293825ToS2 is jank kino fuck you all
>>3293875>>3293902I'd rather they put whatever budget they have into the game itself, which they seem to have done, but yeah it's not a great look. At least the monsters and human characters all look good
>>3293915Yeah I usually don't care much about graphics, but with the Switch it just kinda bugs me that some games at least look pretty decent for its specs, but then others just look and perform like shitDQM isn't the worst offender by far, but I'm emulating so that first screenshot is even at x2 resolution and I probably have less slowdowns than on actual hardware, but it's still not great
>>3293926DQM3 does have some lousy performance in some areas on native hardware, so that's pretty disappointing. Well, at least the demo does, I can't claim to know about the full game as I haven't played it. Thankfully battles run without a hitch.
Gameplay>graphics personally Now that that’s out of the way, can I count on this pseudo general to be comfy enough to supply me with online monster battles and parasocial relationships while I play through this overpriced Dragon Quest game?
>>3294331You sound like a massive faggot. Kill yourself.
>>3294331Do you like the idea of taking tons of monsters and combining them pair by pair into several really cool ones? It's less of a fake pet game and more of a "so much customization and grinding" game. Play Yo-Kai Watch instead. It's exactly what you're looking for.
>>3294338I am 80% sure my life is better than yours but I’ll consider it anyways >>3294338I’ve played every English DQM game but the very first, and I’ll be in the cold ground before I try that ass bandit series
>>3294357Did you mean to reply to >>3294347 on the second one?
I couldn't get into YW, the designs don't really appeal to me.
Man I really want to get DQM3 because I like the demo, but it's so fucking scummy what SE is doing with the base price, plus DLC.It's such a shitty situation. I want to throw money at it to say "hey, the west likes this series!" but they've put me off with a really cretinous and insulting business practice. I could maybe see the molehill being something to pay extra for, but locking the ability to re-recruit monsters you've recruited before behind a paywall? Fuck off.
>>3294410You can always re recruit any monster. The DLC just lets you buy copies of fusion-only monsters instead of making them manually.
>>3294462They did a horrible job at conveying that information, then. But that does make it at least a little more palatable. Speaking of which, is there a way to know what monsters are breed-only? Are those the ones with the golden border?
>>3294462>lets you buy copies of fusion-only monsters instead of making them manually.it let's you scout them in some small areas akin to Monsters 2 3DS rank keysand just like in thay game the monsters are harder to scout because of level shenanigans
>completely forgot the game comes out today>broke as fuck because lolcarbrokeFucking dingle berries.
>>3294465Monsters that have a gold border around them when fusing indicates a unique recipe, actually.
>Psaro is voiced by Daisuke Ono>But he's a mostly mute protagonist with a few gruntswhy even bother getting a big name VA?
>>3294410Just pirate it.
>>3294728you can recognize voice actors from their grunts
What monster am i missing?
>>3294804nevermind, i had to wait for winter to come. I sure hope they give you something to manipulate the seasons later on.
>>3294818It'd be some real backwards shit if they didn't, lategame or postgame environment manipulation's been pretty standard in DQM for awhile now.
>>3294728He's voiced Psaro since 2015
>>3294410I know nothing about this specific game, but it's never, ever worth getting more of something if it's just going to be held back on purpose with shitty business decisions anyway. That's not a reasonable compromise, and telling SE that by withholding your money is not a disservice to the series if they're just going to disrespect it, it's actually the moral thing to do.Basically, SE are huge faggots and we don't deal with terrorists.
>>3294696>>3294610Okay, that figures. But then how do you know which monsters are breed-only? Is it in the Monsterpedia? >>3295016That's generally how I think about it too, but it's so fucking frustrating that DQM will probably go back to being dead if 3 doesn't do well. I hate SE so much it's unreal, but you're right, it'll be their own fault if that happens.
I decided to resub to WoW instead of buying DQM3. It's still not fun and I regret everything.
>>3295148>DQM will probably go back to being dead if 3 doesn't do wellIt got what, six games for the 3DS? It hasn't been dead at all.
>>3295293I figured he meant "it'll stop being localized for another decade until SE decides the filthy gaijin are deserving of another DQM."
>>3295293No clue where you get six games for the 3DS, it only had three even in Japan. But I'm saying dead in the west. The last English DQM we got was Joker 2 over a decade ago.
Do we have a list of all the monsters yet? Since everyone has been going full autism unlocking everything. Also how long is the game? Any beefy postgame? Also fuck you Japan for yout exclusive MCDs monsters
Do all monsters have semi-random secondary skill trees alongside their fixed base skill tree? Some that I’ve caught have had the second skill tree stay the same and some have had them be different. Any hard number on how many trees are in the pool?
When does a monsterpedia or pokedex or compendium or whatever unlock? I just got my first couple of E ranks and if the game has one they either really take their time before they give you a monsterpedia or they hide it a bit too well in the menus.
>>3295736It starts off unlocked, but you can't use it in the demo. Think it's on the same page in the menu as manual save.
>>3295736It's in the adventure journal. Just press L in the menu.
Does the game has online gift events like the Joker series and the other 3ds dqm games? I remember that they would give exclusive monsters or items and such
Is DQM3 coming to steam? If not yuzu it is
>>3209092Why did they change the damage types from Joker 3? Now I don't know if I should invest on wisdom or if all damage is calculated from attack.
>>3295902What you mean? Doesn't wisdom affect spells as usual and atk to anything physical?
>>3295937I don't know. They might have changed it or not but all the damage skills have the sword icon.
>game autosaves after every single fightso much for cheesing recruits huh, tried with a cannibox
>>3296004you can disable autosaves
>>3295939I think it says "elemental spell damage" or "elemental slash damage" etc but yeah it's stupid, it should really have a magic wand or elemental icon.
>>3295789I wish we knew.I thought Treasures was gonna stay Switch-exclusive but then it got shadow-released on Steam six months later.Not that I give a shit about Treasures because it looked incredibly mediocre, but you get my point.Currently debating in my head whether it's worth it to just buy now or wait and see. With a game like this I don't wanna have to re-grind everything if a PC release does happen.But if I wait and nothing happens, online will probably be dead or "solved" (not that multiplayer is my main focus, but it'd be nice to experience once in a DQM title at least).
>>3296054Not him but personally, I would wait at least 3 months to see if anything pops up. If not, you'll likely have the game on sale by then and snatch the whole game + dlc. Because frankly it feels like a scam paying full price for everything when back on Joker 3P and DQM2 3DS had all that shit in base and for cheap.
>autosaves turned off>fuck up a synthesis >realize I haven’t saved in like 4 hours, do so>two minutes later game crashes
>>3295789probably going to get released on steam after 6 months
Hahahaha oh god I picked the meme options in DQM at what seems to be a turning point and the game took the kiddy gloves off
>start going through middle echelons>bosses start doing 200 aoe damage a turn while shitting out status effectsIs there an easy multiheal I missed somewhere? Or do I make a metal slime with selflessness and hope nothing ever gets through it.
>>3209092Is the Witch in or is she too scandalous for the console that has hentai vns as the majority of its content?Also, Maya and "Monster Tamer" aside, how censored is the full game?
>>3250824>Endou Mamorou in the logoInazumabros... W-we're relevant again???
So is all you do to make a giant monster just keep smashing it into a bongo drongo?
>>3296466>can make a metal slime>but not a king slimehuh?
Okay faggots, how's the postgame of the game? Surely you finished the main story by now
>>3296921I haven't even started itFor the joker games they didn't add sizable post game until the Pro versions
>>3296949Well I've answered my own questions by looking somewhere else and it's very small. Probably as short as the other games if not shorter but nowhere near the pro versions
>>3296957they'll probably release a pro version of this or DLC expansion since its not a remake
Started later than the lot of you. Feels weird to have a protagonist with a voice but still no dialogue, and Synthesis feels like it came pretty late.
>>3296963Game does look half backed with little to no budget. Some nips where saying the same thing from streams and in 2chan. It's dqm but not the best one. Others where even saying that should have cut off voices and invest more in the games content and few are enraged by the day 1 dlc ruining the online battles since if you don't own the dlc it will be a lot harder for you to scale up. Probably wont stay true for long since most are finishing the game today
>>3296993I didn't say any of that shit, chief.
>squenix says there's over 500 monsters>me thinking there's gonna be like 505 or 510>check the usual nihongo page that has almost fucking everything with these games>524 monsterseh. It's not th->gets shoved into a pile of almost 70 more monsters that aren't numbered >game almost has 600 monstersfucking hell, also rip by the 3 Japanese exclusives that aren't in NA as far as I know. For anyone interested, shit has fusion recipes of coursehttps://gamewith.jp/monsters3/417737
>>3297058Allegedly you can get the McDonald's Collab fuckers from eggs, white for the Burger Slime and silver for the other two. No fucking clue if it's conditional so they can truly remain JP-only, but at least not ALL hope is lost yet.
>>3297176Huh, didn't even noticed the egg icons. God I hope you're right but so far we haven't got anything from anyone yet. Really one the burger slimes
>can't tell that annoying faggot Toilen to fuck offfuck me running
>>3296833I got the freebie metal slime from tiny medals before I figured out how to make king slime. And now that I'm in upper echelons, I wound up making a King Cureslime instead. Though it's sitting on the bench until random invulnerability from a bigger-upper monster stops being enough to get me through boss fights
I'm still playing the demo and managed to find and recruit a large wing slime, which also happens to be my favorite slime. I wasn't aware that regular monsters could come in large variants, so that's pretty cool.Do you need two large parents to breed a large monster? No matter what I pair it with, all of the offspring are small.Furthermore, how are large variants even found? Are they just a rare spawns? I did find mine in the middle of a slime rain (if that's even what it's called), so is it related to weather events?
Welp, got home from a vacation, now to get back to wrestling with myself over buying the game or not.>want the game to succeed because it's DQM and just really want the genre as a whole to do well outside of Pokemon>Squeenix barely advertised it so it's probably going to flop outside of Japan at least>the god damn DLC shit is the biggest hurdle of me biting the bullet and getting itI probably will end up getting it, as I don't really think any other game is on my radar in the near future. Only other thing I'm looking forward to is any Monster Hunter stuff, which isn't even going to get any concrete news until March.>Captcha: PASR80I just thought it sounded/looked like Psaro.
Is the 3ds remake of 1 an acceptable place to start the dq monsters series?
>>3297632They once again dropped the ball in advertising and selling you a half baked product + dlc. Don't get it unless it's on a 50% off sale. I want to support the series too but these faggots are just scummy asf
>>3297842You can start literally anywhere in the DQM series. Obviously the older the more dated but still neat games.
>>3297058Damn, monster count went back to 524 not counting the Japanese exclusives. Fuck, guess the rest was repeats or something. Strange though
From what I understand the new Monsters game is not necessarily an upgrade over past DQM games and has a few unfortunate decisions or issues, but is it still a good game overall with a lot to do? Specifically for just a /mon/ fan and someone who never really got into DQ at all.
>>3298586I wouldn't say with a lot to do since the postgame is almost nonexistent, and as usual, the bulk of the game is with catching, fusion, and online battles. You get more mileage from J3p and dqm2 and j3p has more interesting shit with battle gimmicks than this game. Like riding and battle fusion + a fuckload of monsters
>Tactics ogre mon runI was able to get 2 dragons and 2 beasts so far, they're pretty cool, huge hp and some cool skills, I made the MC a beast tamer and the whip is also a neat weapon. Will probably halt this to play DQM3.
>>3297457Yes any monster can be bred to be Large. So there are small and large monsters, but they still vary in size within their own bracket. by fusing your monster with a larger monster you will increase its size (slime + bongo drongo = slime but slightly bigger) and you need to do this until your small monster is the largest size for that small monster. there is no indication that you've reached this threshold, you just need to eyeball it. Bondo Drongo is recommended for this type of fusion since they're already almost always bigger they'll raise your small monsters size. Next, you'll need to fuse your almost-large small monster with a second generation Large monster. so again we look for bongo drongo. Large monsters are a rare spawn and the only advise I will give is look for larger model monsters in the overworld and when you fight them there will be a chance to be Large. Fuse 2 large monsters you scouted like this and produce the 2nd gen (L. Bongo + L. Bongo = L. Bongo*). Finally fuse your first monster with this 2nd gen Large monster and it will produce the Large Monster you were looking for
>>3299077I wanted to clarify for the first part it can be a Small Bongo Drongo just to raise your monsters size. the actual Large monsters aren't needed until the 2nd part to fuse the 2nd generation Large monster
>>3296546I haven't seen witch but I have seen that ice bitch from DQ11 on some people's teams
>>3299081Bongo drongos were the best in the demo but I recommend king bubble slime in the full game, they spawn in rain in the mid level that also has the big bears
>>3215042Adding more monsters like Joker 3 pro or dqm2 3ds is a good because there's a ton even with color swaps but when you have the next dqm have less monsters than their last 3 games and 20% (out of my ass, probably more or less) are pallet swaps that don't even have anything unique about them? It becomes a problem.
I kinda hate toriyama's artstyle but I'll give this a chance.
>>3299101At the very least, palette swaps would be less damning if they also made DQM originals with unique shake-ups from the baseline model so they're not JUST recolors. The collab trio are a good example, especially the Burger Mimic. I unironically want to use that fucking thing because it's a top tier concept and I hate that it's looking to be Japan-only.
Not sure if I like this, what are the other options?
>>3299116And i want the slime burger, fucking hate region exclusives on games that are released worldwide at the same time.
>>3299143Fright Bulb, Mud Mannequin, Cruelcumber and Platypunk. None of them are essential considering you'll be throwing them into the synthesis machine as soon as you can anyway.
>>3299077>>3299081>>3299099Thanks for the info. Definitely sounds like a lot of work, and it'd be nice if the game explained any of this. Still pretty cool that it's in the game though.
So is this a Cyber sleuth situation? buff appears to be too strong in dqm3
>>3299249>buff appears to be too strong in dqm3how so?
>>3299249>>3299386I don’t know why but the AI for monsters feels super fucking stubborn about not wanting to be a buff bot, even set to support allies my calypso mole just does not want to use any buff besides oomphie MAYBE if he feels like it otherwise he does a basic attack. And this is set to “support your allies”
>>3299394It might actually be bugged. i have a monster set to Show No Mercy and it only uses Buff.
>>3299394>>3299463Did you mess with the attack frequency or something?
Any good location guides yet? Cant find a Bag o’ Laughs
>>3299523Not at all. i will double check what it is set to.
>>3299533It’s fusion only from a normal slime and construct
I love this lil nigga like you wouldn't believe
>decide to try scouting the Cyclops once I find it's trivial to kill it>literally only my Lump Wizard dents the fucker's scout bar at 2.9% thanks to how obscene its Wisdom growth is coupled with trait boosts>IT FUCKING WORKS
>>3299772Wisdom is the stat that scales scouting?
You know I don't dislike the auto battle feature, its kinda like the focus is on team building and not battling itself.
Is size determined by parents?