Who else is hyped for Atelier Resleri?
the fact that all atelier discussion disappeared both here and on /v/ a week after the announcement makes me wonder how much paid shilling goes on for other franchises
Same with gacha threads on /vg/
>>3178903is it region locked to Japan?
>>3178903Stupid nameUgly girl
>>3178903The corpse of Atelier Online is still on my phone...
>>3178903I'm already playing six phone games. I'm not playing a seventh.
>>3179144English/Chinese/Korean versions confirmed.
>>3178903>shilling for a gachaFuck off and kys.
I just want to go back to the way things were, just a month ago.
>>3178903So hyped for Atelier to be turned into a gacha.I love gatchas.I love dropping 1k on a unit in genshin and then watching people seethe because they broke so they cant buy c6 of the newest hero like me hahaha.Im gonna c6 Ryza and flex on all the broke people who cant afford her and drink their tears.
>>3179404Where? I haven't seen anything aside from the original announcement, and that specifically only mentioned Japanese release.
New Ryza just dropped some Rosca Island bug fix and translationshttps://www.koeitecmoamerica.com/ryza3/update.html
At a first glance, you might mistaken it for genshin
MATING PRESS WITH NELKE
>>3178903>mobile>gacha>confirmed as A25I hate it so much what the fuck is Gust doing?
>>3180179>what the fuck is Gust doing?Incel poaching, what else. They figured what with all the retards buying the $200 editions of the games for like 3 extra dresses, might as well make it a gacha.
>gachaEntirely original cast or will Ryza be the "break in case of emergency"?
>>3180778Someone in the last thread pointed out what looked like identifiable silhouettes of previous characters in the promo images so I’m guessing we’ll have all our favorites in there
>>3178903Not playing gacha that shit is for retards
Stuck on Atelier Ryza 3 on Rosca Island I need some "sandstorm crystal" but cant find it anywhere on the game or any walkthroughIs it craftable? Where can I gather it?
>>3180778Most likely it will be some isekai thing like Nelke or whateverGenerally you can spot a lot references to other Atelier games in the trailer
I will be saving my gacha currency for Mimi, Wilbell, and Linca
>>3178903>A25>fucking mobile gachashitIt's genuinely fucking over.
so uh was the remake any good?
>>3181897Marie was bad game when launchedDid you really expect the remake to be any good?
>>3180981I think you craft it
>>3181897Too expensive for a remake this of this caliber because it only has the most basic and rudimentary system of the seriesBut it's okay, you don't need to fear the time limit in this game, you'll have plenty of time to do everything and even the unlimited time won't save you from missable events and this is designed with to be replayed with new game plus.>>3183061And this is exactly why people should remake bad/mediocre games instead of good ones.
>>3183692>>3183701>boring Shallie in front so she doent die in oblivion
>>3178947Yeah, it's not because Atelier is a bottom of the barrel piece of shit franchise no one gives a single fuck about.
>>3183742>Dusk charactersdo you think will we get new Lincas plus the Lincas we know and love
>no LuluaWont play
I am slightly more interested after seeing older characters >>3183744>no CordeliaW T F
>No SophieDead game
>>3183703If we're going with the recent popularity poll, she's not the least popular main protagonist anymore. Now she's the 2nd least popular and the one at the bottom is now Green Shallie>>3183744>Iksel is in>Cordelia is not inVery weird choices
>>3183904>recent popularity pollHave a link? Wasn't around for it
>>3183936The yearly nlab pollhttps://nlab.itmedia.co.jp/research/articles/1306748/vote_result/Scroll down and you can find that Stera has 15 votes while Lotte has 9
I know "soul" and "soulless" get tossed around a lot but this is genuinely soulless. Gust has become generic KT yes men that only care about profits and how to milk consumers as much as possible. Of course all games are made to make money but I don't see any passion behind this at all, not even a little. It looks like they're taking characters from other games in the series and just shoving them into this gacha for shameless fan service. I didn't like it in Nelke and I don't like it here. The characters have their own games and own stories and this just cheapens that. It's reduced down to "look, we have all your favorite characters, give us money". It's sad to see but I really hope none of you plan on supporting the series going in this direction. If it's successful you can guarantee KT will demand all future mainline Atelier games be gacha. That being said I didn't like the Ryza games either so even if they kept making proper single player games, I just can't this series ever becoming good again.
>>3184011>KT will demand all future mainline Atelier games be gachaIt's not something I'm looking forward to, but making more atelier gachas would just make it harder for them to get any money from any single one. I'm guessing this is supposed to be some big 25th celebration game, but it's quality looks like it's suffering from the usual- having to release sooner than they were prepared to. A26 will just be another general release, more than one gacha in such a short timespan wouldn't help them
So this is basically Nelke but for zoomer paypigs? Wonder if they're still gonna release a "normal" game next year, or they're taking a break.
>>3184046Break seems unlikely but I guess it's a way to try and get the name out there more since they're moving away from Ryza
>>3184046>Wonder if they're still gonna release a "normal" gameSupposedly in the works. Its gonna be devhell like Lulua-Ryza times
>>3183744>EstyIt's almost like someone is missing, but I'll take her as apology. Nice to see her again.
I'm conflicted.On one hand I've always wanted them to properly connect the Atelier series for good and mix old characters with modern ones on new adventures and play with how they might interact, but on the other hand >gacha.Seems like this is just a good ol' monkey paw.
>>3180778God I wish there will be a Rorona/Sterk banner>>3183742Did I miss a stream? Where are all these images from?
>>3184341it was this morninghttps://twitter.com/Atelier_Resleri/status/1696156355080442103
>>3180147Who says it was mistake?
>>3178903Would Atelier 2024(Dusk 4 or Second Alchemist of night) be revealed in pre-TGS bing bing wahoo direct of September? Lulua and Ryza 1 revealed in Nintendo direct from nowhere. Atelier cannot lose to Door-Kun reloaded, Gran and Kiryu who are bursting the hype. switch needs new JRPG.
I am playing through Atelier Firis right now. It feels pretty mediocre. Was it well received when it originally came out?
>>3185458Not really, felt pretty unfinished even by the usual standard. Some said they patched up a lot with DX but I never tried it
>>3183686 >>3183692 >>3183701 >>3183705 >>3183714 >>3183742>>3183744For any anons who are curious where this screenie came about, it was because they did another live showcase. You guys can watch it here on YouTube:https://youtu.be/cM8yLDxQkh8
>>3185084Has Dusk 4 been alluded to or something? I've been seeing it brought up a lot but wasn't sure if it was just because we got them for arland and myst
>>3183744No ones blinking an eye at vayne being there? I expected some seethe
>>3185601I assume gacha announcement for some people was just last straw.
>>3185601Anyone playing Atelier knows that a gacha isn't going to work and is 100% different than what they play the games for. There's no reason to care, really.If it somehow ends up being good, it's still not going to be good as an Atelier game, but as just another gacha.I dunno why they consider it part of the mainline, but so did DQ and FF consider their MMO part of the mainline, and they are drastically different from what you expect of their mainlines as well. Just the usual marketing BS. They know they are going to have an extremely hard time, no matter what. By being just a spinoff, people wouldn't even pay ANY attention to it whatsoever.
>>3185580Yeah. Hope Nintendo direct before TGS has announced Atelier 2024(Dusk 4 or Another Alchemist of star). No way that Koei restraining gust while Omega and Ninja releases Fate/homo remnant and Ronin.
>>3183742>gave firis bloomersAieeeeAlso, it's weird they try trie to do another Atlier gacha even though the first one failed miserably
>>3185680Blue Reflection S is doing pretty well.
>>3185509hmm, I see. I'm playing DX on the switch, so that should be the complete experience. At least Firis is cute
>>3185458>It feels pretty mediocreWail till you find out theres no duplication and you assigned to make a shitton of Rainbow neutralizers>Was it well received when it originally came out?No, it wasnt criticized for its gameplay but its horrible performance issues like Blue Reflection 1 but different. It ran at 10-15fps with lower resources consumption
>>3185681No its not. It was a flop at launch and doing decent now. Its far from meeting profit projections.Wont last a year at this rate
>>3185711>no duplicationI was hoping that it would come eventually...>10-15 fpsreally? across all platforms? Open world really comes at a cost
>>3185776>I was hoping that it would come eventually...Stock as much metal items as possible for third city otherwise you will lose 2 weeks of crafting>really? across all platforms? Open world really comes at a costDX version already fixed it but it was sit at launchBR1 shares the original Elixir engine build with different usage and its always shitted on when discussed. Some anons had to UV their gpus so they dont overheatElixir engine performance wasnt decent until Lulua
>>3185777Yeah, I already made that mistake of not having metal items.... I farmed some metal items over near the beginning area for a few days instead of crafting ingots.It's a good thing that I listened to anons and didn't play BR1. BR2 wasn't bad though
>>3185812if you want a better blue reflection experience, just play a persona game with this poster hung up right next to your tv and this song playing over the soundtrackhttps://youtube.com/watch?v=8DmsfYt_-hU
Any Rosca Island walkthrough?Im stuck on Institue Legacy quest and need 10 records for Kala
>>3186281I saw a few people post about completing that DLC on gamefaqs, so it would probably be better to ask about it there
>>3183817Would Atelier 2024 in Nintendo direct or TGS be Dusk 4, or Second alchemist of star Starring Valerie? If it is another world, it would be Three houses-like in Atelier, considering Koei is involved in 3H.
>>3185715Maybe Atelier has ran to gacha because Kishida Fumiko(Feminist PM) banned bikini from Japan, like anime and CS games. But Jap gacha gets a pass as grey zone for being irrelevant(according to Nakaido). Only media of Japan where bikini is allowed... for irrelevancy. We shall blame this Dark lord, Kishida Fumi(k)o, If the bikini is on anime or Jap CS? Increasing tax by X2!
>>3183521Was Atelier not that big franchise as Persona,Yakuza,Xenoblade,Fire emblem in JRPG?
holy shit the fairies are so fucking cute
>>3186568No. It used to sell like shit until Ryza
>>3183742>>3183744So how long until I can play this kusoge and roll for Rorona?
>>3188023They said it's releasing this year so, soon
>>3179895Not spoon feeding you
>>3188023>actually considering playing this trash
>>3188153ill play it but only if they continue localizing Esty’s last name
>>3188153Like we've gotten anything that wasn't trash since 2010
>>3188249>implying it wasnt a shit game franchise from the very start
>>3188472Ryza sales say otherwise
>>3188249Atelier Sophie is good. It seems like you are just wasting your time here if you haven't liked any of the games in the past 10+ years
>>3188137Because you can't. There is no confirmation. Meds time.
>>3178903Here I thought the Marie remake was what was new with atelier :/Graphics looks really pretty I love the HD chibi dollhouse look
>>3188890Alt cover art is kino
>>3188532>Atelier Sophie is goodExcept its not. Its literally Shallie but boring and grindy
>>3188890>Graphics looks really pretty I love the HD chibi dollhouse lookThats the only decent part yet its shit because of chibis
Who is the most talented alchemist?
>>3190818In terms of "most ridiculous shit done with alchemy", of the ones I've played it's probably Lulua.
>>3190818Lulua really was mary sue tier
>>3190818Lulua by farShe is insanely op by the end of the story
>>3190861>>3190889>>3191633Okay. I've never played her game. Is it worth playing?
>>3191855best alchemy in the series imo. Plot is mostly self-contained so you don’t HAVE to play the other Arland games first but you miss a lot of references and in-jokes if you don’t. Music is pretty good.
>>3191855It's alright, worth a shot if you want to
TGS2023 schedule is out, and KT is on the first and second days. Will they tease the TRUE atelier, or will they keep shilling the gachaslop?
>>3191855Overall the best game in the series.You should at least understand Rorona-Sterk meme posted here but thats all because its not that related to its prequelsBest alchemy system which become better once you learn how to exploit and bypass TP system. Ask me if you want to know howOne of the best plots (all plots are retarded but this one is not that bad)Its a shame Lulua didnt get feature in Nelke since hers and Pamelas backstories would have make lot of sense
>>3192128>Overall the best game in the series.It's good but I'd have a hard time agreeing with this after Ryza 3. They really covered every base you mentioned here with that one outside of needing to know what happened in it's previous entries, but I wouldn't say that's a bad thing
>>3191855Lulua's one of the best games in the series alongside L&S and Ryza 3. It basically boils down to which has characters you like more, and Lulua goes pretty strong there since it has a fuckton of Arland characters while L&S kind of fumbled that by excluding a lot of Sophie/Firis characters, and Ryza 3 does its best to pretend 2 doesn't exist.
>>3191967>>3192017>>3192128>>3192392Alright, thanks for the information. I have played Rorona DX and Totori DX, and I liked those. I know that each game is fairly self-contained, but would you guys recommend playing Meruru DX before I play Lulua? I'm not in a rush or anything. I was trying to figure out whether to start Sophie 2 or a different game pretty soon though
>>3192725Lulua is absolutely NOT self-contained. Play Meruru first. And the Totori true ending is necessary too, even.
>>3193017totori reg ending(s) are better than the true onenothing you discover past that point will enhance your experience of either game
>>3192725You should play Meruru because it’s also very good, but you don’t have to for Lulua. There’s only two characters that are new in Meruru and return for Lulua and neither of them have any background that’s not explained in the game. You’ll miss out on a little character development for Pamela, Totori, and Mimi but that’s about it.
>>3193073By true ending I mean the true final boss who's literally related to a party member in Rurua.
>>3192150ryza 3 was bad though. Alchemy is completely busted from the start if you grind out the skill tree and point gain is way too slow if you don't grind it at all. The basic uni bag is able to one shot enemies so you don't even need to make any other consumable items except a simple healing item for bosses. The open world is shit and there's very little reason to explore instead of gunning straight for quest markers with the only exception I can think of being grabbing the roses near the mansion on the starting island since the game never makes you go over there and you need them to make a gathering tool.
>>3178903>Hyped for a gacha of a single player offline mostly franchise Nope see you till next game
>>3192150I would say Ryza 3 is the best game (as game) so far. But Lulua is the best Atelier game.
>>3194127Ryza 3's the highest budget game but it has a lot of balance and UX issues like hiding the fucking skill tree which results in you wasting points on worthless crap you can't use for ages while locking you out of actual important shit because you wasted your points on the worthless crap. Lulua and L&S are overall better games.
>>3194345>balance and UX issuesEvery Atelier game is meant to be played overpowering the shit out of its mechanics>the fucking skill tree which results in you wasting points on worthless crap you can't use for ages while locking you out of actual important shit because you wasted your points on the worthless crapUnironically skill issue
>>3194445>Every Atelier game is meant to be played overpowering the shit out of its mechanicsIn terms of doing alchemy to make overpowered shit The Ryza series doesn't have that, instead you just fucking mash buttons and overpowered skills kill all the enemies, no need for items at allYou didn't play Ryza 3
>>3194454>The Ryza series doesn't have that, instead you just fucking mash buttons and overpowered skills kill all the enemies, no need for items at allYou only played it on Very easy
>>3195323Wrong, that's the normal difficulty. You didn't play any of the Ryza games.
I didn't play any of the Ryza games.
I just finished the first one, I spent a lot of time making equipment but it is true that you don’t really need bombs to beat the game. You can say the same thing about other games too though (Meruru comes to mind). I did need to make a nice debuff item to beat the last boss in the DLC
I played all of the Ryza games, and they ranged from OK to decent. The anime is also decent.
I've played all of the Atelier games that have an english translation(except Nelke and the dead mobile game) and I found Ryza to be pretty good overall. 3 is the weakest of the trilogy for me, but I still enjoyed my time with it. It got pretty overwhelming at points because there was just so much to explore, but not much worth exploring for. I enjoy the ATB combat system and as long as we keep getting games like Sophie 2 I think everything will turn out good for fans of the franchise, regardless of Reslerina
>Cordelia confirmed>still no sign of Sterk or Gio
Totori in spats. Never thought I’d see the day.
>>3196644I cannot imagine a scenario in which Sterk isn't confirmed, he was one of few constants through the entirety of Arland. I mean, how would his wife Totori feel if he was left out?Unless his actor is dead or otherwise incapable of retaking the role, in which case rest in glory champ.
>>3197273What kind of monster Rorona hater ships Totori and Sterk?
Which game should i start with? i'm new to the franchise, well i watched the anime and really enjoyed it. Are all the sub-series connected or do they just share characters? thank you in advance
>>3198225You could start with either Ryza 1 or Atelier Rorona DX and then play the next games in the trilogy you choose. Each trilogy is isolated from others, but there are plenty of connections between games in a trilogy (e.g. shared characters, similar game mechanics, a few references to past events). Not a big deal if you skip around to different trilogies, but can't recommend playing games in a trilogy out of order
>>3198225The games within each subseries are tightly connected and usually share a lot of characters and plot points (e.g. in Ryza games the core party is the same across all 3 entries and the characters will casually talk about what happened in previous entries). But each subseries is its own world, there's no meta narrative like in Trails or Yakuza. Well there's a certain ghost girl who appears in majority of Atelier games across all settings and eras, but she's basically like Patches in FromSoft games. She can't remember when or how she died so she just drifts from place to place and tries to be cheerful about it. Her being undead is often a spoiler so I won't give you the name, but she's in Ryza games too.
>>3185601what's wrong with vayne? i don't frequent atelier threads, i thought mana khemia was fairly well-liked
>>3197800>Rorona haterNo such thing.
How do i unlock clothes for atelier sophie 2?Do I need steam versions of the other games?I have blue reflection 1 and 2 and atelier ryza 3 and atelier sophie bought on steam and got costumes for those.But i cant get the ryza 1 costume, even after pirating the first game just for this costume.Do I have to buy that game seperately?I played that already and ryza 2 on switch and dont really wanna buy them again for pc just for the clothing.
>>3181056That's my wife's hat!
>>3183061You haven't played it
>>3199983It just checks for save data I believe. You can download clear data for all games on Barrel Wisdom. Just make sure to put the files into correct folders, check them on SteamDB and/or PCGW.
>>3196644Sterk will arrive with his wife's daughter.
>>3201184>villainsThey will end as friends
>>3201184.... isn't this just copying The Avengers?
>>3178903I just want to skip this year so I can play the real new Atelier
>>3180778It's a gacha of an established franchise. You already answered your own question.
>>3202093What does that mean?
>>3180778>will Ryza be the "break in case of emergency"?Already shown on first character waveTheyre desesperate
>>3180778Images like that make me want to play the Atlier games. Also why I liked DD. It's fun playing as a warrior with a big sword and protecting a cute girl.
>>3202646Ryza is pretty good for that, rest of the franchise not so much
>>3202650What does Ryza do that the others don't?
Please just let this series die peacefully already, Koei you greedy hacks
>>3202653Genuine men that strive to protect the party. Not wimps like Mathias
>>3202646But you don't play as Sterk, you're the cute girl who bombs the enemies to hell.
>>3202670You're too caught up in the self inserting of it all. I just want games that have those kind of characters.
>>3202653Actually have at least one heavily muscled playable guy like Firis's and some others I'm forgetting. Most of the others have a twunk as the buffest character at best.
>>3202498Forgetting that the most popular character isn’t Ryza, it’s Sophie, and she hasn’t been announced yet.
>>3202797Sophie sales were nothing compared to Ryza.
>>3202797>most popular character isn’t Ryza, it’s SophieUntil Atelier Ryza 1. Now its Ryza Sophie TotoriYet Sophie merch sales like shit. Somehow way lower than Totoris
>>3202743Fair enough, it's a cute dynamic, especially between an autist and a retard.
>>3202815Is Totori really that popular?
>>3202654The series died spiritually years ago.
>>3202815I've seen two popularity polls in different contexts in the last 4 months and Sophie dominated both. Totori even beat Ryza in one of them.
>>3202646Tell em.There's rarely a better dynamic than strong swordsman with frail magician girl.
>>3203232Ryza literally saved the franchise, you really need to get over it. The series is doing better than it ever has now
>>3203593Saved from what?If anything, Sophie saved the series by looking at sales, Ryza just attracted a lot secondaries.
>>3203597The very same reason you're giving to Sophie, the sales. She sold millions, not even Sophie did that
>>3203205>13 years old fanservice girl>HIGH IMAPCT SEXUAL VIOLENCE memeYes>>3202815>>3203381>Sophie dominated bothIts more complex. Sophie can only win within japland. Totori will always score no worse than third.Ryza will outsell the shit out of both hence she was featured during Atelier 2022 poll instead of Sophie despite her sequel being the last released game
>>3203458Should I try Rorona or Ryze?
>>3203647Ryza definitely. Overall it's the best trilogy in the series since all the others are lacking in something she has
>>3203654Alrighty. I kind of like Rorora's cute design a little more but I have heard mostly good things about Ryza
>>3203647Honestly it depends on your nostalgia level for PS3 era JRPGs. If you miss the style and humor, you’ll love Rorona. If you don’t care, Ryza’s alchemy is more fun.
>>3203657You get a mix of both on Lulua
>>3203593That's why I said spiritually. The series still exists but it's not something I'm touching with a thousand foot pole.
>>3203677Forgot to mention that the music in Rorona is significantly better than the music in Ryza
What are the chances of us ever getting a full yuri Atelier game instead of just heavy baiting? I mean they made Blue Reflection 2 and that was unabashadly yuri.. did it just not sell well?Also how good is the Dusk trilogy? Ive only played the Ryza and Sophie games.
>>3202093Nope. Copying Heroes of the Storm.
>>3204102No male cast is never gonna happen. Closest you’ll get is probably Atelier Meruru
>>3204102Pure female isn't something they'd do, yuri baiting is in their blood so you'll have to take what you get there. As far as Dusk goes theres practically no yuri there unless you're headcanoning the hell out of some pairs like the Shallies. Best off going with the four Arlands since Totori and Mimi are practically an item or Firis since her and Cor could be seen that way too in L&S
>>3178947it's not paid shill, just fake "fans"
what about the previous atelier mobage? EOS already?
>>3204463ages ago>>3204462We've already played all the games to completion, theres little to talk about.
>>3204462I’m not saying atelier has paid shills, I’m saying it doesn’t and that’s why discussion dried up. Other franchises would have “organic” rage bait for weeks.
>>3178947/v/ had Atelier discussion? I recall that it was mostly just Ryza dumps.
When will she be revealed for the gacha?
>>3206476Probably a limited time Meruru event
>>3206476Only Arland non-alchemists announced so far are all from Rorona.
Why do people think Dusk 4 is a possibility? Atelier never had a 4th game, right? And why Dusk in particular?
>>3206602Lulua and Sophie are considered Arland/Mysterious 4 because they're the fourth games in those settings, so some assume they'll eventually do the same with Dusk
>>3206476She's so fuckable. Imagine coming up with this design and not making it an alchemist, much less a rollable character.
>>3206623>consideredLulua narrator literally says "Alchemist of Arland FOUR" on star menu. Everything on jap aside the FOUR
>>3206602Because Resna is not independant despite being a "main numbering", and being more like heroes of the storm. And considering gust has faster release phase with low budget.
>>3206623I don't understand why. The entire dusk debacle got solved, albeit badly, but still solved. I guess people really, REALLY just want to see central city.
>>3204102Yuri sells like shit, no one wants that.Two girls interlocked fingers uncensored in one of Resna's trailers, so you ought to be happy. That's more than any other romance will ever get.
>>3207520It's my favorite of the trilogies after Shallie plus' weak bandaid and I don't even see the need for more. I think people just want more of what we have instead of starting over or something. Lulua was cute but I don't see much need in inventing someone new for Dusk just for the sake of it. Unless they do something like Ayesha's trek between her game and Shallie like with Sophie 2, but I don't really need that filled in at this point, or Atelier Nio to answer more cradle stuff
How would (you) improve the series if you could change things?
>>3208109ryza but sophie 1
They fucked up by not giving her fat thighs like Ryza. Literally unplayable unless a patch or mod comes out to address this.
>>3204102Japanese people are all autistic and have little to no understanding of how normal humans function. I wouldn't trust them to handle an actual lesbian relationship with any level of competency.
>>3208147Klaudia is a great lesbian though? Ryza is just dense
>>3208149Klaudia is a blonde foreigner to Ryza's small, isolated island community. I don't know how much more obvious I need to make it.
>>3208173I don't see how that takes away from the yuri?
>>3208147>actual lesbian relationship with any level of competencyWith significantly higher rates of abuse and violence than any other pairing? Shoujo Ai is a fantasy, and a rather boring one at that.
>>3208142this but Meruru
>>3208345>With significantly higher rates of abuse and violence than any other pairing?Unironically, yes. No relationship is perfect. I have never once seen Japanese media capture what a relationship actually is, except maybe Misato and that one dude with the pony tail in Evangelion.
Which games have that >>3202661 hot redhead guy?
>>3209760The Secret games.
>>3178903How thick are her thighs?
>>3210246Actually good. Best ones after Ryzas.
>>3210581Her shoes are kinda weird
Atelier Resleriana released for android jap
>>3212489Does it take a vpn or anything? Couldn't find it earlier
>>3212489yeah, but you can't play it until the weekendI never played the first mobile game so I'm honestly a bit excited for this, even if it is a Gacha.I'm just happy I can meet characters I love outside their original game and also see them interacting with each other>>3212515you probably need a jp account
>>3212489hoping this doesnt shut down fast like the last mobile game. i had a lot of fun even though im not too into the series
Did Koei announce anything besides gachashit?
>>3208345The study you're likely talking about was faulty, because they included hetero relationships instead of strictly lesbians. Men are always the most violent hands down, violent crime and sexual assault statistics don't lie.
>>3213104not bad for a new character
>>3213119the last atelier gacha went on for more then a couple years, nobody would call that fast
It's out. I'm going to try it tonight.
If I didn't like the one where you built a boat what are the odds I'd like the others?
>>3214070>region locked on play store>can't get it off qooappFucking hell
After the latest YUZU update, the game "Atelier Ryza: ever darkness & secret hideout" no longer launches. It also doesn't launch on Ryujinx. What do? I am too poor to buy.Was my first time playing the game and only got up to unlocking alchemy before update hit :(
How do I reach this area in Ryza 3 Rosca Island DLC?Its from Institute legacy quest
>>3216064intel i7-6800k, 32GB RAM, NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1070Bought this computer like 8 years ago or something
the game itself doesn't even consider itself a real atelier game because P_BLD_MCHARA_A is Resna
Well, is it good?Do we have to wait years for global and then have them announce EoS three weeks after?
>>3214070Forgot to come back to report. I’ve played a bit. It’s okay I guess? It looks fantastic, not just by phone standards but even PS4 standards. The battle system is alright and I’d say it’s less braindead than Ryza’s. Haven’t unlocked enough alchemy to say much about it but it’s pretty simple. WAY too many things to grind for, like you even need to grind for materials to raise the level cap of your characters with the cap starting at 10 which you hit in like an hour.
>>3216015so use the version that worked
>>3216375>WAY too many things to grind for, like you even need to grind for materials to raise the level cap of your characters with the cap starting at 10 which you hit in like an hour.Oh and it's not even one type of material, there's five different colours for that material and you have to do different types of quests to grind for them. Why the fuck?Thankfully there's a battle skip feature with no microtransaction crap involved so it's not too bad but having to do the skip for each of the five types one by one is still annoying.
>>3216410>Oh and it's not even one type of material, there's five different colours for that material and you have to do different types of quests to grind for them. Why the fuck?welcome to every single gacha game in the market for at least 8 years ?
>>3216527This is completely separate from alchemy materials, leveling materials, equipment leveling materials, card leveling materials, and all that other bullshit.There's already like ten different kinds of grinding missions so it going in to one of them only to have it to split into another five is kind of too much.
Anyone played Sophie 2 on the Switch? Wondering how bad the performance is
>>3216728I did. It’s fine. I actually had more trouble with Sophie 1 and Firis (freezes and crashes on release) than 2 (no problems at all)These videos are of the Switch versionhttps://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLyaU6eWzn2EQ4hYWplvClmgZm2TQeSqcJ
Should I get that atelier nelke game? I know it's more of a city planner but not sure if it's worth.
>>3216015Update on this:Ryujinx just updated in the last few minutes and the game is working again :D
>>3216917although after starting a game it seems 85% of the ground outside is invisible lol
>>3216917>>3216923updates on these updates, incase anyone else is having the trouble. The game actually started working, not because of the ryujinx update but because in my fucking around to try and fix things, I moved the game folder, which disconnected the updates and dlc from the game. Getting the newest update for the game fixed the ground being invisible and it also revealed it had only been crashing all this time because of one of the DLC's, though I am unsure which one.
>>3216938turns out its ALL DLC and I don't know why, oh well, vanilla playthrough it is. :v
>>3216972Seriously. Cant you just play the PC version? Swtich version are always downgrades and you wont have these kind of issues. Ryza 1 is far from demanding (unless youre retard who sets shadows to max
While Gust is busy making gachas, a Korean developer has released a new Atelier game.https://store.steampowered.com/app/1958220/WitchSpring_R/
>>3216015What is this retardation? Just pirate the native PC version, none of Koei Tecmo games have Denuvo or any other special DRM. You're a god damn mouth breathing retard, I spit on you.
>>3217003>>3217096... wow, I really am retarded. I assumed it was a switch release only, as Nintendo is usually pretty intense on never letting things leave their platforms. Not that I looked into it at all, just seen it in the list on a rom site and remembered people talking in forums saying they liked it.This would have been nice to know before I spent hours trying to get the switch version to work lmao, so thanks for the heads up anons.
>>3217092Osnt thus jus un enhoanced purt af duuhh original?>>3216915>city buildingLowburst firm uf moboil goamgeing. Atuliur online wus tha lieral lateral kinest of the nono's und thoooose figgits ut kiei RIPPED them boinoi's. Thur gon to gumo pay une doy.
>>3214489Qtip. Auora store es must botther fur jap gacheese than quonutpro app.
>>3213104>autistically values chivalryFriendship ended with Rorona.Now Juna is Sterks one sided wife.
Will Ryza 3 receive any more DLC or worthy updates?
>>3217092Came here to see if someone posted this.Man the WitchSpring series sure grew, if you look at the first games on mobile they were VERY rough-looking, this remake of the first game arguably looks even better than Marie remake.
>>3178947Yeah, couldn't be because long time fans finally gave up on Atelier as the series gave up on them. Right? Sophie 2 was nice but the entire Ryza trilogy and now this mobile kusoge is the kiss of death for Atelier. What is there to talk about and look forward to anymore?
>>3219446Ryza isn't speak Atelier but it isn't bad either.As for this mobile game, eh, it's obviously not the be-all-end-all of the franchise, they're going to make more offline games for sure, I'm still curious for the next trilogy.
>>3219478Keep being curious, I guess. Maybe it'll pay off, but I doubt it.
>>3219480It'll be the thing that will decide the direction for the franchise for the next 3-4 years, so yes I'm way more invested on that than doomposting over a fanservice gacha.
>>3219478Ryza 1 sucked but 2 and 3 were okay
>>3219484Cope as much as you want by pretending it's merely a "fanservice gacha". It's still going to be the next mainline entry.
>>3220308FFXI was a MMO and some people just ignored that and waited for XII, on my eyes this is still a spin-off, just a bigger-budget one.
>>3180150Why are all the recent atelier girls stacked AF yet people act like they werent meant to be sexual?is Ryza 3 any good?
>>3220625Every character is meant to attract either male (exposed skin, like Lydie) or female (cute dresses, like Ayesha) . Theres nothing wrong with body proportion in this regard>all the recent atelier girls stacked AFResna seems to have less bust than Firis so shes average at best
>>3216300>>3216917>>3216923>>3216938>>3216972>>3217176Kek I thought you testing stuff out, not actually trying to play the game.In general, Ryujinx is ALWAYS the better option except on the first ~3 days of release.And with those specs there should be no much problem playing a , you know, switch exclusive.
Bring back flat, small, and medium chested girls.
>>3221713Ok, Astrid will be the next Atelier protagonist.
>>3221734Don't threaten me with a good time!
>>3210581Her outfit feels like a cheap rehash of Klaudia's tbdesu.
>>3213104How did I miss those tits.
I did not know catgirl Rorona existed but I'm glad it officially does.Bless you Astrid
>>3223055I'm having Déjà vu
>>3178903me i love gacha games
off topic but i have blue reflection 2.is the dlc witht the ryza collab worth it or any of the new maps?
>>3223415this was translated?
>>3221970>Her outfit feels like a cheap rehashYou described most of Koei Tecmo designs
>>3226313>is the dlc witht the ryza collabI guess if you like Ryza.
Any performance patch for pre Elixir engine/Firis games?
>>3226453Could be worse, could have been Nomura's autistic obsession with cramming as many belts and zippers as humanly possible into all of the outfits in his games.
Recommended key/controls config for Ayesha?
Did anyone manage to play the Arland games on the Steam Deck without issues? I managed to get the videos to work using Proton GE + running a bash script to convert the .wmvs to play the audio properly, my only issue is the menu lag (when you open the main menu or inventory while doing a gathering attempt). If anyone has a solution for that I'd be grateful.
>>3229958That menu lag is there on Windows too, it's just a trash port, the game is rendering each letter in UI individually, killing the performance.This mod fixes the lag, but it apparently leads to crashes in some scenes, up to you if you want to use it:https://steamcommunity.com/app/1152300/discussions/0/3345546664208090238/
>>3230023Ah, that's a shame, but I guess I should expect that from KT. Thank you for the patch suggestion, it speeds up the menus a tiny bit.
>>3229898controller with default controlsI can't recall, but isn't that one of the games that lags a bunch without one since if you don't have a controller plugged in it checks every frame to see if you plugged one in or something stupid like that.
>>3219446Ryza’s ass apparently.
>>3227481Dunno, his girls are pretty good
>>3230774This game's censored as fuck, what the hell
Anyone have the performance fix post?There was a steam post covering both DX9 (up to Sophie 1 and DX11 (since Firis) games but cant find it
>>3231487There's not much to fix. Use this for Ryza 2 and later games:https://community.pcgamingwiki.com/files/file/2654-atelier-sync-fix-windows-version/And this >>3230023 for Shallie and EARLIER games.Mysterious DX trilogy, Lulua and Ryza 1 don't need any mods, they're the best ports with virtually no issues (aside from the micro-stutter if you don't have a controller plugged in).
>>3230882He certainly has a type, that's for sure...
One time I turned on my friends tv to pull something up and he had left atelier ryza running with the camera fixed directly on the main girls ass. I didn’t say anything and turned the tv off. anybody else have any similar experiences?
It annoys me that the Japanese don't follow the game price convention of slowly decreasing a games price depending on how old it is. >picrelIf these were western games and ryza 3 had just released, only 3 would be full price. Ryza 1 would be down to a base price of about $35, while Ryza 2 would be down to around $50Instead you get them doing shit like badly porting games from the snes and charging original release price of $50
>>3232692Just wait for a sale or pirate it retard
>>3232692I wouldn't really say that it's a Japanese specific thing, but having someone competent behind your pricing model is very important. Lowering prices can potentially convey desperation to your customers. Keeping a consistent price can convey to the customer that the seller believes that their goods haven't lost value. For a digital good, there are less risks that could cause a loss in perceived quality and value. Why sell for cheap when the perceived quality and value is the same?
>>3232692They’ve been running sales all the time though
>>3233034how long until the next one, you reckon?
>>3232692>>3233059Koei Tecmo sales are usually only 1-2 times per year and the most recent one literally ended just 2 days ago. The next one will be in March or April most likely.tl;dr just pirate it retard, I love Atelier but who the fuck is buying 10+ games at full price + DLC, Yakuza and Trails are much better priced
>>3233071They’ve been running one every month or at least every other month this year. Bet you we’ll get another one before Christmas. I got Ryza and Lulua on separate half off sales so far. I’ll admit prior to 2023 they didn’t run sales so frequently.
>gacha Klaudia looks better than game Klaudia
>>3234838isn't the dev work contracted out to a different team for the gacha?
There a sale running soon? Thinking about trying a Dusk game.
>>3236746The sale just ended a few days ago.
>>3239149Are they just using one artist for the whole game? Pretty nice if so.
>>3239256I think there's umiu_geso for Resna's party, tokki for Valeria's, and NOCO for the main villains. Since the legacy characters only have 3D renders instead of portraits, we can't say for sure, but they are sticking to a single style for all of them, so maybe.
>>3232656Should have called him out
>>3232656And what exactly is wrong with that?
How strict are the time limits really?
>>3239761For which game? Generally they're not an issue unless you're a completionist who wants to see every ending or something.
>>3178903I will never give a fuck about Atelier until they have proper pricing. It says a lot when a series is worse about price drops than Nintendo is.
>>3239761if you just want to avoid a bad ending they're pretty trivial. true ending without any ng+ bonuses is sort of difficult in rorona and totori but otherwise there shouldn't be any issues with the time limits other than not knowing about certain events and not trigging them.
Are there any ocean/aquatic themed Ateliers?
>>3240435Atelier Shallie: Alchemists of the Dusk Sea
>>3240435Totori is nautical themed to the point that the icon to advance a text box is a little fish
>>3239761Worst case scenario (Totori probably) you’ll have to follow a guide to get a golden ending on your first playthrough.
I started playing Ayesha and while the atmosphere, design and music are great, the gameplay and constant cutscenes made me keep yawning
Have a bump atelierfriends
Every time i play atelier i just keep doing item loops or trying to find out ways to get top tier traits and then the rest of the game is a boring slog of one shotting things.Like right now I'm playing sophie 2 and got dragon god blessings and maxed out traits right after bringing platcha's soul back. I just one shot everything, but i still keep going through loops and maxing out everything. I don't know when to stop.I lost to the black dragon cause i didn't have healing as i didn't need it, then tried getting the best healing traits spending a day doing so. I've spend 75 hours on this game and still haven't finished it cause of this.I don't know why i do this to myself.I only got the weather stuff yesterday, and got all skills too.
>>3247495Unironically go outside youre burn out
>>3250229He doesn't sound like he's forcing himself to play the game, seems like the opposite of a burnout ft. autism.
Did you guys like playing Sophie 2?
>>3250693Yeah it was a great game but short simple and no fucking postgame
>>3247495i do this shit too
Is there a place I can download a pirate of the PC version without the bay? The site is blocked in my country and I don't have VPN
>>3232860I see it in almost all Japanese games, which is why I pointed them out. Very rarely do I see it in any other developer from other countries.Sounds like shit business owners tell other business owners but has no bases in reality outside other business owners who are investors. No customer would consider it desperation to see an old product that isn't up to modern day standard being listed cheaper. Rather if they see the newest game of a long series and think it looks interesting, then go investigate the older games first, the older games being the same price would be off putting. Why pay the price of a modern game for a game that is out dated, and so is an inferior product by the modern market standard? Where as the earlier products being cheaper makes it easier to confirm the initial sale and much more likely for the customer to buy all the others in the series. Would be like out of 1000 interested customers, you could get a few hundred people willing to take a $30 plunge to try out the series, with perhaps 40 or so getting hooked and buying the rest. While only getting 4-5 willing to pay the 85 while maybe 1 goes on to the rest of the series.>>3232783the sale would be even cheaper if the base price was lower first.
>>3251374Ryza 1, 2, and 3 were released in a 4 year window. There isn't much of a difference in what "modern day standards" they used when they were being made. If you were talking about games with a 6 year or longer dev cycle or games that have been released for 10+ years, then your points would make more sense. As others have mentioned in the thread, the games do go on sale at multiple times of the year, but the reason for that is not related to a perceived decline in value. The experience that is being sold hasn't really changed just because the game is slightly older than before. Ryza 1 is just as important to play as Ryza 3 if you want to get invested in the trilogy.
>>3251360C'mon landlubber, at least try a little.
>>3178903To be honest I am not. Good series but only played Sophie 1, 2 and 1st Ryza. Characters are designed well but wished they look early 20's not ~14. That would really kick it into gear for me. Pure coomer logic here but whatever.
>>3251395Debatably, sure, I'll give that Ryza trilogy might barely skirt by (though I still think they should have dropped 5-20 between games for simple good marketing.) My comments on Japanese games as a whole still stands even with that. There is many SNES games and other such ones that have only had the most minimal porting effort put into them to get them on PC and they are set at original release prices. Not that it matters since making a concession for Ryza basically ruins my argument for this thread as nothing else is relevant.
>>3251829I did, googled for a half hour or so. That's why I was asking here.
>>3252085For what it's worth, I will concede that the Japanese do seem to have a unique mindset when it comes to pricing. They don't always make the best decision for their international fanbases too. I do agree that lazy ports getting priced the same as a new AA or AAA game is extremely scummy. I don't think that it's super common, but it has happened plenty of times before. What's more common is getting a significant graphics update for an old game and seeing it priced $10 or $20 bucks below a new title price, like the Atelier Marie remake or Metroid Prime Remastered. The story is usually left untouched and no extra content is added. Is it worth the money? I guess it could be for people with nostalgia.
>>3251374>>3252085Only the Ryza games and Sophie 2 are $60, the rest are all $40 with all DLC included for free. Actually check the prices before vomiting a wall of text lmao.
>>3252087>Half an hourAT LEAST try
>>3252332oh shit, I forgot the word torrent even existed since the days of limewire. Since that convenient program shut down I dont think I have ever torrented since lol Usually just google "game name rom" and find something. (still dont know where your screenshot is from, but I will try find a non-blocked torrent site)
Platcha has such a chokeable neck, and nice back
When in the game do these songs play?Disorder in orderhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xDNKb6fqtxUGemini winghttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BsFlH8VOemU
>>3254916Disorder plays during the mini boss fights with the groblairs in etel nepica and the starlight plains.Gemini wing plays during that one fight with the avenger.
Which Atelier songs are recycled from other games? Including other KT games like Blue Reflection or Nights of Azure
just started Sophie after finishing ryza 1 and 2, anything to watch out for or just get cozy
>>3255708tetris block alchemy
>>3255708Get cozy, there's like 4 variations of the town theme and 2 of the bar themegame suxx anyway but sophie 2 good
>>3255708>make philosopher stones before fighting final boss>DO NOT MISS Monikas guild concert. Its one time only and unlocks a scene and trophyJust rest until that day since its really easy to miss
>>3255778>>3255872thanks kings yea i wanted to get to Sophie 2 but felt obligated to play 1 first (yea i know it's part of a trilogy but idc about going back that far)
>$10mil revenue on first monthit's so over consolebros, koei tecmo finally nailed a successful atelier gachahttps://s.famitsu.com/news/202311/01322544.html
>>3256350>yea i know it's part of a trilogy but idc about going back that farChronologically wise Sophie 2 happens between Sophie 1 and Firis so youre playing the correct way. Do note Firis mechanics feel like shooting yourself in the foot. The only worthy QOL feature was having a map (somewhy not present on Lydie & Suelle)...The whole Mysterious trilogy feels retarded when you think about it
>>3256522>Do note Firis mechanics feel like shooting yourself in the footThat's because you're supposed to play it after Sophie 1 not 2. Firis is a next gen experience compared to Sophie 1 (and other PS3/Vita gen Ateliers), huge world, non-linear gameplay, so many new mechanics (including vehicles and underwater exploration), absolutely mind blowing at the time.But nowadays? You're going back to a game which came out almost a decade ago, and was in fact their first try at the modern Atelier formula (all the things you see in modern games like gathering tools etc were first introduced in Firis), ofc it's gonna feel like ass in COMPARISON to the latest and hottest.
helphow do i get the later two?i can't make a philospher stone
>>3256569>That's because you're supposed to play it after Sophie 1 not 2. Firis is a next gen experience compared to Sophie 1Stopped reading there>no duplication/registering >item refill locked until postgame quest>catalysts feel rare rather than useful>tiny storage, 1000. Cant be upgraded further than 4000 >extremely grindy alchemy, even with costumes and furniture.Sophie cauldrons and alvhemy levels and Lydie & Suelle catalysts and alchemy level unlocks make sense with traits and rotation unlocks but Firis item mastery was just painful. >grindy and borderline cryptic recipes unlocks>>unlocks hint>>bomb tier 2 requires making 20 tier 1 bombs and using them 30 times>>it just gets worse on tier 3>most of the fucking game feels cryptic and lot of content is only accessible with a guide (Palmyra second phase for example)>horrible performance on non DX versionIt was a good game but way more ambitious than polished
>>3178903Solo leveling collab with atelier Resna when? Event title: Solo Ateliering(俺だけのアトリエな件)Sung Jin Woo(Shun Mizushio) as New character. And His knife as core item. Considering Solo leveling is more popular than Oshi no Ko,SnK,JJK,Demon slayer, Freiren,Bocchi in Japan. And it will be the AOTS next year even in Japan, for having no Japanese competitor from anime next season.
I've never played Atelier but I've read some background story stuff and I'm interested in the world. Which games are worth playing for the lolstory or are there any? The mindfuckier the better.
>>3257761The story in these games is the equivalent of slice-of-life anime. There's usually some VERY low stakes goal to move the plot forward, like "renew your atelier's license so that you don't get evicted", and most of the cutscenes are spent chatting with friends about nothing in particular. They're a bit like Persona games, as in there's a calendar and lots of character events (kinda similar to social links), both with party members and various townsfolk.I believe the Dusk games have most intriguing stories due to the setting being a dying world, but I haven't played them.But yeah, you don't kill god or save the world in ANY of these games, I'm pretty sure. There are no twist deaths either, everyone always survives, even the villains (provided they're not just a mindless monster with no dialog). The villains might even join your party 1-2 games later.
When the fuck is the Resleri PC release coming? I can't bear to play games on mobile.
>>3240435Already mentioned but Totori takes place in a fishing village and the main objective of the game is to build a ship and sail to another continent.
>>3258036Solo leveling collab must come in Resna. Which is next AOTS and a black ship from Korea which will dominate the anime, which even China couldn't and made Tomino's concern right if China is changed to Korea. Solo leveling is more popular than Demon slayer,JJK,Spy x family,attack on titans, Oshi no Ko,Freiren in Japan. It will get AOTS even in Japan according to video platform ranks. Which core item will Solo leveling collab give? Sung Jin Woo's Knife would be usable by Tao(ryza 2),Meruru,Logy and other sword wielders. Sung Jin woo will use his own Eintzelkampf, named Schwartzelkampf(Sawano Hiroyuki music on this fatal). I wanna see Jin Woo/Shun shouting Barrel. And he must be in Musou orochi 4 too. Considering Koei has made webtoon with Atelier sophie 1 and ryza 1.
>>3257816>But yeah, you don't kill god or save the world in ANY of these games, I'm pretty sureyes, you doSophie saves the world from an evil alchemist who's alchemy is draining the life from it. Meruru and Lydie & Suelle save their whole country from a big volcano monster and an evil god respectively. Totori saves a small village of outcasts from an evil demon. Ayesha saves her sister from a plant god thing? though it's been a while since I played it so I forget if they called it a god or not, or if they mention any wide spread effects of what it was trying to do. Also firis gets to fight god but it's just an optional for fun fight because the god is bored.
>>3259238>they save their villages/townsYeah, not the world.
>>3259394it's disingenuous to say that saving their town/entire country is a VERY low stakes goal, even if it is technically lower than saving the world
>>3257816>I believe the Dusk games have most intriguing stories due to the setting being a dying world, but I haven't played them.They have higher stakes too like Ayesha's is "save your sister or she'll fucking die".
>>3259238>plant god thingIt's a genome backup device that bugged out and started kidnapping living humans to put into storage, it wasn't going to destroy the world (it was made as an ark to preserve species past the end of the world rather) and it's not a godThat reminds me, they mentioned in some interview back when the game was first released that the lyrics for the final boss theme of Ayesha "Maria" which are in their fake language actually translate to some really important stuff that touches on the "core" of the Twilight series, was that ever revealed or deciphered?
>>3262276Didn't the description in the sound room menu say it was onomatopoeia?
>>3262421That translation is straight up bullshit. It's not even a mistranslation, they just made it up. The description say it's an artificial/fictional language (造語), it does not say "onomatopoeia" (擬音語) anywhere.They've also talked about the secret meaning of the lyrics in interviews and its importance is why Maria Origin is used in Shallie. ──『アーシャのアトリエ』の『MARIA』(お気に入りの曲です)という曲には、歌詞に裏設定が含まれているとのことですが、今後明かされることはあるのでしょうか? 裏設定を明かしてしまっては裏設定と呼べないので、あくまでそれに関わる謎が明かされるかもしれない、という説明に抑えさせていただきます。 ──前作『アーシャのアトリエ』で、阿知波大輔さんが作曲し、霜月はるかさんがコーラスをしていた曲『MARIA』の歌詞の意味について、今作『エスカ&ロジーのアトリエ』で関連した話は出ますでしょうか? 黄昏シリーズとしてあつかいたい共通のテーマに関連する、という解釈でよいのであれば、前作で投げっぱなしになっていた部分のいくつかについては、進展が見られるはずです。霜月さんには今回も複数曲お願いしておりますので、ご期待ください!
>>3262495Jesus Christ. I didn't know the translation was that bad. Did they fuck up the localization anywhere else besides naming Hanna (Fauna?) from Meruru?
>>3263271Esty Dee is the biggest fuck up. Someone on the localization team thought it would be funny to add an STD pun. The original name is Esty Erhard.https://atelier.fandom.com/wiki/Esty_Dee
>>3263271I play them in Japanese so I don't have any real examples, but from what I've seen over the years the Atelier translations all look machine translation tier.That one for Maria is particularly bad, though, what does the English version say? The Japanese description straight up says the lyrics have meaning to them which would contradict them being called onomatopoeia.
>>3263552That's a deliberate change, maliciousness as opposed to incompetence.
>playing jrpgs>in englishkek
>>3263794I play some in Chinese
>>3263582Seriously, does anyone have a screenshot of the English version? I'm really curious as to how badly it got mangled.FYI the Japanese text says>>3262495>A boss theme filled with splendour, featuring a multi-recording chorus by Shimotsuki Haruka. >The title is pronounced not like the English name Maria, but "May-re-ah". >The lyrics are all from a fictional language, but they do all have meanings!>But they're a huge spoiler for some of the secrets about the world, so we can't tell you what they are. (-Achiwa)
Secret games are on sale until the 28th.https://store.steampowered.com/developer/KOEITECMO/sale/autumngamefestival
>>3264413Looks like the anon that I argued with is getting the exact deal that he wanted. haha
>>3264413>regional pricing = killed>CreamAPI = doesn't work anymore (DLC's are no longer on disk, so you have to buy Ultimate Edition if you want everything, and pre-order bonuses cannot be hacked in anymore)Most people will just pirate now.
>It's almost 2024>Still no announcement of new Atelier seriesOwari da...
>>3264449maybe the person who decides the sales prices is in the thread...
>>3266378>titmonsters galoreIs there a flat justice?
>>3266378>AI artAnon please. At least have some dignity
https://nlab.itmedia.co.jp/nl/articles/2311/10/news139.htmlResleri is in the news because of the backlash against a shitty Tiktok ad they ran in which some bitch demands your wallet so she can do the gacha till she gets the character she wants There is no actual game footage aside from her showing it to the camera on her phoneJust very perplexing all round
>>3267619Who is the retard in charge of Gust again?
>>3267619They also posted a non-apology on the official discord which just said “sorry you were offended but that ad wasn’t for you, it was for tik-tok users”Man they think tik tok users are retarded huh
>>3267619They already nuked the Tiktok account but people have uploaded the video to Twitterhttps://twitter.com/cygasoldier/status/1722346019365736778
>>3267700Pretty sure it's common sense that tiktokers are total retards.
>>3267999Maybe but who the actual fuck does >>3267871 appeal to?
>>3267619>>3267871Kek, the absolute state of this franchise
When your entire game can be summed up as coomerbait, you should fuck off from this board
>>3267619Who the fuck greenlighted this?
Anyone have full quality Lulua sleeping artwork?Not screenshot but gamerip
Wow, Meruru is very beautiful.
I can't wait for them to sell the game for $60 and then sell all the DLC for $120
>>3271103You mean $90 and then season passes 1, 2 and 3 for $120 each
Thoughts on this foreigner puni
>>3178947Or maybe old fan wanted another remake or some old school atelier, Sophie fans wanted another sophie and Ryza fans wanted Ryza 4?
Speaking of remakes, how is Marie remake?I saw barely any threads on /v/ or even any discussion here. Is it bad, forgettable, okay or what?
>>3272923It's a decent remake, it's just that the game itself doesn't really hold up.And people never really mention it but the remake also includes a full port of the original version too.
>>3272831Shithole>t. used to live there
>>3272923Not worth the price at all.
>>3272923It's a 10 hour game sold for way too much money.
>Ryza 3 on sale againdamn sales fell off a cliff with this series, or they are preparing for winter (their new mobile kusoge)
>>3274102It's because the show just aired.
>>3274489bro Ryza 3 has been on sale like 3 times this year which is unheard of for Gust. Has abso-fucking-lutely nothing to do with any show, that's just cope.
>>3274503not meeting sales targets is a hell of a drug.
>>3274503>>3274506It hit 300,000 in its first month. The series hit 1.6 million in April and 2 million in June.Before Ryza showed up the most any of the games in the Atelier series ever sold was 200,000 lifetime from Meruru.
>>3274531i dont understand why you responded to me.
>>3178903Is it gonna have bikini outfits?
>>3178903is it okay to play the ryza games out of order? i was just gonna pick up the third one when it's on sale because it looks like a comfy rpgalso this isnt going to do what nep does and look all cute and cuddly and end up all fucked up is it
>>3274892You shouldnt but its not that bad. You get instantly spoiled from both games plotBe aware of Ryza 1 QOL (think about Sophie 1 vs Sophie 2) and Ryza 2 was just literally HUGE game engine improvement. Sophie 2 is literally the same while Ryza 1 is barely any different than Lulua
>>3274907i'm not sure what you're saying, so should 3 play and look better than 1 and 2?also im fine if the plot's spoiled, i'm here for comfy slice of life stuff
>>3274911>so should 3 play and look better than 1 and 2?Yes. Atelier games use to be a total improvement over their predecessors. The only exception is Lydie & Suelle, Lulua and Ryza 1 since they were made during a devhell>i'm here for comfy slice of life stufYou will enjoy it then. Thought they only game that REALLY feels slice of Lydie & Suelle
>>3274892it's okay... but play them in order
>>3274985it will be more comfy if you start from the beginning and see Ryza's origin. Plus you will not want to play/finish Ryza 1 or Ryza 2 if you get spoiled from Ryza 3's gameplay improvements
did everyone just forget that this isn't the first atelier gacha? I actually loved atelier online and miss it so much
>>3275208I started on Atelier Online back in the day and immediately quit because of the sheer jewismI mean fuck they start you off looking like THIS, it's like they looked at one of those free VS paying player meme images and said "yes this is what we want our game to be like"Resleri may also be jew as fuck but at the very least it looks fantastic and is fully voiced
If I thought the middle game of the Iris trilogy was decent, is it worth playing the other two?
I haven't played Nelke, how is it?
>>3276108It was pretty good. Maybe a bit basic for a city builder, and the postgame was tedious, but I enjoyed it.Nobody played Tristia of the Deep-Blue Sea, but Nelke was certainly better than it. Not sure if there's any other entries in the Cute Girls building Cute Cities genre.
>>3276166I played Tristia and Neosphere and Amaneka
>ryza saleHow are they? I want to autistically craft things. Anything else is whatever.
>>3276762The Ryza series has the worst crafting, and Ryza 1 is an outright bad game (2 and 3 are good)
>>3276762Ryza might be on sale but it's the vanilla version with none of the $300 worth of DLC included.Get Sophie DX or Ayesha DX, all updates and DLC included and only $10 more than Ryza's sale price.
>>3276762>I want to autistically craft thingsThen go with Lulua. Nothing tops herYou wont truly appreciate Ryza crafting unless you are turbo autist You will enjoy gems farming loops
>>3276837>You wont truly appreciate Ryza crafting unless you are turbo autistWhat is there to even appreciate in Ryza crafting?You just make a philosopher's stone and then farm gems to mass produce it and all crafting is solved forever.
IMO, Ryza games are WAY more fun if you do only minimal (aka throw whatever in the cauldron) crafting and fight bosses with crap gear. This way it's kind of like playing DQ11 on Draconian. Otherwise the games are just too shallow and the story is K-On tier brainrot.
>>3276108It got too tedious for me even halfway through so I dropped it. To be completely optimal you want each alchemist making 10 different items each week and due to poor UI you constantly have to keep checking your item storage to see if you actually have enough item income to support your crafting. Then after you finally make all your items plans and progress a week you unlock better selling recipes and you need to do it all over again. Even worse is that some items can take up to 5 weeks to make since they require other crafted items, which require other crafted items etc. and you can't use items as material in the same week that you craft them.
>>3276944that's how I usually play RPGs until I can't continue without minmaxing
>>3277804>same university science department that says trans women are women, it’s already too late to stop climate change, and race is a social construct provided these stats on domestic violence and I believe them 100%
I have a few questions about the Atelier gacha. How jewish is it, are there any gameplay videos of it, and how would a non-japanese person go about playing it?
>>3279715>How jewish is it, You have to get 10 of the same character to max them, with extremely low gacha rates, almost no free gacha rolls, and ridiculous prices on the gacha ($60 per 10 roll which is double the price of most gacha games)The game's also right now in the process of being bashed by the fanbase because they keep introducing new characters who are millions of times stronger than all the previous ones (the latest being Lyddie and Suelle) https://youtu.be/ZYjjGe2pb74>are there any gameplay videos of itsearch youtube retard>and how would a non-japanese person go about playing it?VPN
>>3279904>You have to get 10 of the same character to max them,That isn't really an issue since you already get 6 shards x 5 characters on the second shard quest difficulty per day. I assume on the third it is 9 per character but I'm not strong enough for it yet.
https://twitter.com/KoeiTecmoUS/status/1726601298617987224Who asked for this?
>>3280527I'll check it out because it's Atelier but I can barely handle one gachashit already.
>>3280527Wasn't an EN release kinda expected?
Steam page is up!https://store.steampowered.com/app/2594920/
>>3178903Atelier is the goyslop of JRPGs
>>3281215Nah, it's nowhere as blatant of a cashcow as Yakuza and Trails. Atelier games have a decent amount of variety, especially pre-Ryza, each game had a new protagonist, all new areas, unique gameplay mechanics etc. But the 3 Ryza games are pretty samey, yeah.
>>3281212The only question that matters: is it fun?
>>3281223shit, i didn't even register yakuza being a jrpg series
Zero interest in gacha shit, but I played the Dusk trilogy as my first Atelier earlier this year and loved them, and just started Sophie now. After the Mysterious trilogy, will probably go back to the Arland games the next time I wanna play more
>>3281968Dusk is honestly the weakest subseries in Atelier. Ayesha is okay but Escha & Logy is jank even by Atelier standards and Shallie has bad alchemy, shitty progression flags, jank bugs and no ending to boot.And you played the DX version right? Keep in mind that the original release straight up didn't have Ayesha or Logy in it. At all. Or the (still unsatisfying but not as bad) ending.
>>3281968>>3282456Arland 1-3 are the most Atelier-like of the modern games.Dusk 1-2 are close but simplified a lot, Dusk 3 and Mysterious 1/3/4 and Arland 4 and Ryza all attempt to turn the series into conventional RPGs with varying levels of success. Mysterious 2 is just weird.Arland 1-3 are balanced so that you have to actually figure out the damn alchemy and do it right to get the true ending, and have tons of endings so that even if you don't get the true ending you'll get AN ending and then do another playthrough to try again. That's how it's supposed to be.
>>3282478>if you don't get the true ending you'll get AN ending I only played the Arland games, do the rest of them not have different endings?
>>3282456I beat the entire Dusk trilogy already, Ayesha is my favorite overall but I thought the crafting got more addicting with each entry. Didn't encounter any bugs in Shallie and didn't ever have trouble progressing, and what do you mean no ending? The water crisis got a bandaid, and Stera secured water for her village, those were the main goals of the game. Because they long term viability of the solution is unclear? That was kind of the point, ecosystems are incredibly complex and its difficult to know or understand how human actions will affect it long term until we just do it and wait. Because the Dusk itself wasn't solved? That doesn't seem like an easy thing to do an outside the scope of the story, maybe that aspect could be handled more in a Dusk 4/Ayesha 2, though even then solving it completely in one more game would feel a little cheap. Liking Sophie so far, though the Dusk setting was really cool and I'm worried more generic settings won't have as much an impact for me.
If Ernie confessed to Ayesha that he was in love with her, how would she respond? Odds that she would become his girlfriend?
papa koei tecmo has blessed us once agaim
>>3282801>Biggest discount is for Nelke>it's still double what the console versions are on AmazonHow about fuck off
>>3282500Haven't played Dusk, but the Sophie and Ryza games only have one ending each. Firis, L&S and Lulua have multiple, although you can trigger them all in a single playthrough, you just reload, pick a different dialog option (provided you've fulfilled the requirements) and watch a different ending.>>3282801>35% off for ancient Vita games badly ported to PClmao
is lydia&suelle any good or should I skip, i grabbed firis and Sophie 2 but my buddy said L&S was mid
>>3283466How so? L&S is second best in Mysterious saga imo
>>3283473Just said it didn't grab his attention as much, not really sure why. Gonna do firis next then maybe start dusk
>>3283466Sophie 2 is shit, it's literally just Ryza 2 but with Sophie and a cast of people who don't matter. L&S is a million times better than it.
>>3283536sophie 2 has a good combat system instead of a shit like the ryza series has
>>3283466L&S, Lulua and Sophie 2 are generally considered the best Atelier games. Firis is very divisive due to the open world, a time limit and the need to "level up" your recipes. But I don't recommend skipping Firis either as she's one of the main characters in L&S and the game references literally everything that happened in Firis.
>>3283795Firis is weird. I hated it the first time I played it, but once you understand how the time limit actually works (i.e. that you can do everything and still have like 100+ days left) and ignore it it's actually pretty good.I personally really liked the long journey aspect of it. The fake time limit was really detrimental to that game. The game would've been better off without it, having a destination is enough of a goal.
I'm still fucking mad that they made a gacha game.
>>3283466Your buddy is a fucking retard, L&S is straight up the best game in the entire Atelier series.
What makes L&S so good? I'm playing through it now and it's not any better than Rorona.
>>3283795>Sophie 2This is the first time I've ever heard someone call Sophie 2 "one of the best"
>>3282801>Lulua 50% off>same as Ryza 2What does it mean bros?
>>3284514The story sucked dick, but the gameplay (both combat and synthesis) are absolutely the best in the series, this is a very common take.
>>3284514I can understand someone saying that because looking at it subjectively it's the most polished system-wise, I'd say it's even better than Ryza 3 there.But it's fucking dog shit because we finally get a fourth Mysterious game yet it's basically a fucking Shonen Jump movie taking place on non-canon movie island where none of the events or characters fucking matter because it's detached from the actual series, and even worse they place it before the sequels so none of the fucking sequel characters show up.What was the fucking point of that? If you're going to call it Sophie 2 why not at the BARE FUCKING MINIMUM bring back characters from Sophie 1 who got shafted in the sequels? She's fucking canonically with Oscar at this point in time too but they just kick him out with a haphazard "oh yeah we got split up who cares".It's so goddamn frustrating, the only way a person could enjoy this game is by it being a fucking secondary for whom this is the first Mysterious game.
>>328275295 percent chance that Ernie has romantic feelings for Ayesha99.99999 percent chance she would turn him down
>>3284830Wonder how he feels about her eloping with Keith for 10 years
>>3284841Do you agree that Ernie has an unrequited love for Ayesha?
new trilogy when
>>3178947twink hentai addict absolutely btfo'd by >>3183723
>>3217092i want to try the witch spring games but they're pricey for mobile ports
>>3286366>they're pricey for mobile portsThat's because they're not mobile ports, these are complete remakes.
>>3284749>most polished system-wiseMoney loop was fucking grindy and literally had no postgame but muh boss rematchId argue its weather mechanics were great and it was the last game rio have such great lighting system
I just cleared the Dusk trilogy (DX) and wow Shallie is atrocious. And this is AFTER they fixed a bunch of problems with the Plus version?Why did they remove a ton of UI elements that were in E&L like being able to tell what properties apply to what kind of items?>Have to go to another fucking continent just to buy items from Harry>Okay once you're at the ass end of the game you can craft a teleporter to teleport to Harry's village>But it replaces the bottom option on quick travel so you keep accidentally hitting it with muscle memory when you try to go to world mapWhy the fuck?>Go to the water ruler's place in the eastern continent>Wilbell chickens out and runs away>Green Shallie chases after her>Screen transition>Green Shallie catches up with Wilbell IN STELLARD?Did Wilbell and green Shallie run TO ANOTHER FUCKING CONTINENT?>Cannot remove hats, if you equip a hat on someone who already has a hat they get two hats clipping togetherAyesha and E&L didn't have this problem and also let you remove the hats, why the fuck is this a thing in Shallie?>Shallie x2 talk to Keith and suddenly tell him about Flameu and the seed when I've never seen them ever hear about Flameu>NEXT CHAPTER they talk to Escha at her store and see the seed for the first time and learn about Flameu>THE FOLLOWING CHAPTER they see Escha reading some books and wonder what that seed she's holding isWhat the fuck?I also felt that synthesis and combat were just straight up just not as fun or fulfilling as E&L'sMan what a goddamn fucking mess>>3207520They didn't solve shit. They solved the water problem in that region alone but Keith literally says multiple times that the problem is bigger than just that. The water problem has nothing to do with stuff like the massive wastelands to the west you see in Awin's questline conclusion in E&L.
>>3287634>>Cannot remove hats, if you equip a hat on someone who already has a hat they get two hats clipping togetherForgot an important detail>also 8/10 characters have hats>one of two remaining cannot equip hats>the last one is Logy who looks retarded in all the hats because they're made for the girlsWhy even bother putting the hats in at this point? Plus a bunch of the hats are just carried over from previous ones and are supposed to match certain costumes, but they didn't bother bringing the fucking costumes over.
Is the "Tetris" (grid) style of alchemy standard across the entire franchise? I actually prefer Ryza's "loop" (node) system, to the point that the grid feels clunky and restrictive in (e.g.) Sophie's games.
>>3288636>Is the "Tetris" (grid) style of alchemy standard across the entire franchise?No, it's exclusive to the Mysterious games. Generally speaking, each sub-series has its own alchemy and combat mechanics.
Is there any kind of save data transfer between the Ryza games? I have 1 on Switch but I'll probably want to get 2 and 3 on something else, just for better performance.
>>3290499There are some bonuses for having saves from the other games, but it's not really a big deal.
>>3290499The only thing you get that matters is costumes You get costumes from Blue Reflection and Sophie 2 saves too
>>3290499>>3290504>>3290612You can get them by editing your dlcs file
Has anybody happened to find any leads on those golf dlc outfits for L&S yet?
New Atelier series info doko...
>>3293046Next year at the earliest.
>>3293046They're too busy working on mobile. The next Atelier game will be in 2025.
>>3293046You WILL buy currency in the gacha and you WILL like it
>>3293163I spent $50 on the gacha and got nothing
>>3293170You didn't spend enoughif you had spent $51 then you would have gotten everything you wanted and moreso just spend more
>>3292531Wow, someone still cares.You'd need a hacked PS4 to dump the files and then make a PC mod out of them.
>>3293492is that a skirt?i would have bought ryza 3 if that skirt was in it.
>>3293492>Thank you, Ryza, hehe... My whole body is drenched.Did Ryza save her from getting drowned or something? Also, eww that artwork, who's the artist on this gacha?
>>3293684The art for the series has been shit since Mel Kishida stopped being the man artist.
>>3294219Toridamono is a blessing for this series, ask Gust and Koei Tecmo execs about it
>>3294219The art for the series has been shit since hidari stopped being the man artist.FTFY
>>3293492>yurishitAiiieeeee!Though I guess the only one left for Ryza after Bos won prime interspecies pussy with Kilo is whatever that bland girl's name is, because I honestly forgot all about her.
>>3294219>>3294423>the man artistWhich was the best man they drew?
I bought the two Ryza artbooksLooking forward to getting them in a few daysSad that game 3's book isn't releasing in english at the same time
>>3295332 Meant to post Keithgriff
Stealing cole from mom’s wallet to pay for gacha rolls
>>3296683>not Lulua stealing from RoronaYou had one job
>>3297165You think Rorona has a wallet with extra cash lying around???
>>3297545As Chim Dragon said, pies arent free.