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What is your favorite build?

What is your favorite spell?

What is your favorite unique?

What is your favorite music track?

What is your favorite town?

What is your favorite oddity?

What is your favorite character sprite?
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trying to figure out what to ruin next, styg?
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>>3054727
no, I know exactly what I'm going to nerf next
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favorite piece of dialogue
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>>3054784
poor yogi, gonna miss em
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>>3054727
Kek, good post to start the thread
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>Want to make melee build
>Hear the DLC is fucking hell for melee
I've only finished the game once, how fucked am I in Expedition if I do decide to go through with this
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>>3054878
do you have throwing?
any psi schools?
versatility?
stealth?
Yes? You'll be fine.
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>>3054890
I'll have throwing and stealth. I don't like psi and I don't want versatility.
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>>3054725
>What is your favorite build?
Tm sword
>What is your favorite spell?
electrokinesis
>What is your favorite unique?
red dragon
>What is your favorite music track?
final boss
>What is your favorite town?
foundry
>What is your favorite oddity?
lemurian chevrons
>What is your favorite character sprite?
leper overcoat
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>>3054725
>What is your favorite build?
Pre PSI nerf metathermics/sniper was pretty fun. The way thermodynamic destabilization scales now, it's just no longer viable without investing into will.
>What is your favorite spell?
Plasma beam. Been meaning to try the Cyclops build, but on my last playthrough I've never even seen the helmet. I'll prolly end up savescumming after Depot A.
>What is your favorite unique?
lmao
>What is your favorite music track?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_6qQ2hfYjrs
>What is your favorite town?
Expedition camp.
>What is your favorite oddity?
Čutura.
>What is your favorite character sprite?
picrel
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>>3054784
Based Biocorp, ass fetishist, technocrat.
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It's over.
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>>3054878
If I could do it with fists, you could do it with literally any weapon.
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He attacked me. What is this I attacked him shit? Come on, Styg.
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>>3055401
It never even began.
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>>3055423
Let me guess, empowered TC?
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>>3055424
A bit more than that.
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>>3055425
>Psionic tranceiver
I never thought about using this. Didn't know he boosted it. Really cool detail. Wonder if you get any special dialogue for it.
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>>3055425
how could you pick that portrait
it's the worst female portrait
you look high af on motion
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>>3055426
>Didn't know he boosted it
Tchort isn't a psionic entity in terms of game mechanics. I got that much from scanners and tentacles.
>Wonder if you get any special dialogue for it
Nah, you don't.
>>3055428
Looks fine to me. I like portraits with fully or partially covered faces and that one's good enough.
>you look high af on motion
Kek, I should've hit that shit before dealing the final blow.
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>>3055432
Oh, well that's disappointing. Styg really needs more flavor text involving skills and psionics.
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>>3054725
>What is your favorite build?
Fist
>What is your favorite spell?
force emission
>What is your favorite unique?
Fists if they count otherwise the claw
>What is your favorite music track?
grey army
>What is your favorite town?
core city
>What is your favorite oddity?
beasts head
>What is your favorite character sprite?
rathound regalia
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If I want to make a shotgun build, what's the best direction to go?
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>>3055653
tincan with a sniper on the side
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>>3055425
oh shit, the TENTACLES!!!
I forgot they're psionic; thats neat
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>>3055511
>beasts head
thats not an oddity
its a scale
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>>3055653
mobile pump shotty with good agi
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>>3055425
you really get more damage from all-in than from pickled shrooms?
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>>3054878
Melee can be simple or as complicated as you want it to be. An unoptimized knife guy with all his stats in agility, dex, and con performs perfectly well in normal difficulty and probably hard too if you at least optimize perks (from the selection you have with those stats, i.e. not having the crit perks).
He gets tons of attacks per turn, can throw grenades, set all the traps, and pick all the locks. That's more than enough for a playthrough.
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>Looking into shotgun build
>Tons of conflicting info, people saying perfect scattering is good, others saying it sucks ass
>People saying fragmented chaos is broken and doesn't work as Styg intended
>Barrel stare sucks, or is very good
I hate how autistic this game's playerbase is
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>>3055855
The only truly autistic thing is hunting for the perfect build guide instead of just playing the game and having fun.
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>>3055855
its not autistic, its just that most people are tards
tards dont know or care that they're tards, so they confidently spout their opinions as if they were smart
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Does joining the pirates lock you out of some of the facilities?
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>>3055882
no
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>>3055855
>using shotguns over ARs
They're retarded by default.
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any fun first timer builds?
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>>3055958
here's a good simple one that starts strong and stays strong, easy to play, easy to build
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>>3055855
>Perfect Scattering
Most builds skip this suggesting the math on it is subpar.
>fragmented chaos
Good, but "supplemental". take late. Doesn't work with Critical Power (also mediocre).
>Barrel stare
It's optional if you're not planning a glass cannon, but favored on most forum builds. The extra damage for 1 on 1 skirmishes is pretty good, no?

I think the gist of shotguns is... they're boring, just like ARs. They're good for versatility builds. Just take the damage multiplier per stack, and move on to other perks to make your gameplay more interesting. At the end of the day you'll still be playing yet another mindless TM glass cannon.
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>>3055947
Shotguns are better on non-can builds just because you don't have a move and shoot penalty.
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>>3055998
nah, mobile AR + TM is the best build in the entire game
the 5% move'n'scoot aint shit
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Anons please give me a build which has:
>enough WILL to pass all lore skill checks
>hyrbid psi + anything else in any capacity
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>>3056003
https://underrail.info/build/?HgUFBgMGDgfCoEoAAADCoCRHPksARUkKNETCoADCoAAyAAArATkoLCplNiQhS35mBQpywrfCu8Ocw4jCrsKdwp7ioqMB4qK1AuKjiAXipKwC4q-8BOKvvQHfvw

this build can do everything and see all lore, except minor shit from intimidate
BUT
you can drop a few points into intimidate and use all the intimidate boost items to pass any of the checks if you metagame
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>>3056003
You can't pass all lore skill checks without full wizard.
>Will
You'd have to import your save from older version.
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>>3056005
>>3056003
shit, thats an older version
use this one
https://underrail.info/build/?HgUFBgMGDAnCoEoAAADCoCRAPksAPUAKLjzCoADCoAA3AAArATk2LCplKH4hS2YKBSRywrfCu8Ocwq7CncKew4jioqMB4qK1AuKjiAXipKwC4q-8BOKvvQHfvw
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>>3056007
thats not true
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>>3056013
What's the name of this abomination. It looks horribly full of min-maxing.
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>>3056020
thats because it is
fine-tuned skill and ability points
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>>3056021
What's the name of the guide? It just looks like a horrible experience for someone who wants to play with persuasion and pickpocketing. The low Stealth sucks ass.
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>>3056023
he asked for something specific and I gave it
if you don't like it dont use it
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>>3056024
it's a guns / MT hybrid with crowd control and no TM. where's the guide how to play this shiz
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>>3056027
no refunds, brainlet
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>>3056030
give a level 12 skill distribution
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>>3055958
This is a fun build that is pretty flexible and new-player friendly. The entire idea behind it is you'll be able to sneak, you'll have a little bit of health to help you if you make mistakes in fights (which you will), and you'll have TONS of combat control utility with grenades and suppressive fire.

I only built up to level 10, reason being because (A) that is the meat of the build and (B) the rest of the way you can really decide what direction you want to go. I would highly recommend looking out for the feat 'Commando', it pairs very well with this build and is very strong. Beyond that, if you want to go more into crafting, by all means go for it. I'd put my additional attribute points into dex and perception if I were you. Perception obviously increases your accuracy, dex will let you get extremely low cost shots off with submachine guns. Forgot to mention, between sprint and tabi boots when you find them you'll be pretty mobile as well.
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>>3056005
>>3056013
Thanks anon!
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>>3056037
have fun, anon
im playing it right now myself
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>>3056037
Are you fucking kidding me, he gave you a sniper build with low perception and a bunch of shit in it. why are you thanking him?
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laser pistol > chemical pistol > fist > knife > sniper > assault rifle > SMG > Full wizard > spear > hammer > shotgun > crossbow > firearm pistol > throwing knife
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>>3056040
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>>3056041
assault rifle > full wizard > smg/shotty/firearm pistol > fist/knife (not sure) > laser pistol > SWORD > crossbow > chemical pistol > sniper > spear > throwing knife > hammer
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Any non-tincan AR builds? Prefer to not use psi
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>>3056044
>sniper that low
Bre, it's like you don't like zoning out 11 targets in a single turn.
Also yeah I forgot about sword, probably before or behind spear.
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>>3056040
>anon does what I asked him to do
>NOOOOOO YOU CANT DO THAT
Do you have a better build to recommend? I want a psi hybrid with max WILL of course it will be shit.
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>>3056045
this was an n16/spec ops build; its better if you craft your own stuff
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>>3056049
you know the guy that did the crowbar run? his favorite build is a sniper
he says sniper is the worst gun
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>>3055783
I'm not entirely sure. I never tested it with this particular run but from previous benchmarks, base damage (All-in) gave somewhat better damage numbers than crit damage (pickled shrooms).
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>>3056053
I played my own build and it was pretty amazing.
Some people just don't know what they are doing and then call thing bad.
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>>3056056
he's the best underrail player ive seen, he knows exactly what he's doing
you're focused on first turn alpha strikes, while ignoring that other guns are also very strong but also more versatile and not as reliant on luck
besides, 11 kills (maybe if you're using every AP boost available) is nice, but other guns can do that and more
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>>3056050
Yes, you can make a MT/TM build with grenades and Last Stand that's viable for Dom. Simple and effective. You just have to import a level 1 character from the old version for it to be Will based.

https://underrail.info/build/?HgMHAwkDDQgAwqAAAAAAwohQTABBSWVQQ1AAAMKgRi8AVcK_UGIrLBYqZcK9ZsKEH8KHPcKIPnpywrdtwp7CncKuw4ds4qOJCuKrpQXfvw
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>>3056053
>he says sniper is the worst gun
To be fair what's the point of snipers (range + big damage) if range is a joke and you can one-shot almost everything with a laser pistol?
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>>3056069
exactly
you can even do dex vers and get very low AP costs
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>>3056069
It matters in the expansion with its large open areas that sometimes have impassable canals inbetween.
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>>3056051
I'm confused... Why the hell is his strength 10?
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>>3056075
bodyweight training
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>>3056003
Full psi.
Underrail is a psi game first and foremost and always has been
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>>3054725
>What is your favorite build?
Full tranquility psi, pre-Expedition.

>What is your favorite spell?
Exothermic Aura

>What is your favorite unique?
Phase Gun

>What is your favorite music track?
Drop Zone

>What is your favorite town?
SGS

>What is your favorite oddity?
Thing in a Jar

>What is your favorite character sprite?
Rassophore
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New player here. What exactly is the difference between smgs and assault rifles? It seems like they share tons of feats except smgs are just better. Am I wrong?
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>>3056119
Bullet speed, which penetrates armor much more effectively. All SMGs are medium speed. And have inferior range. Then again, once you get to crits, these differences may be nullified.
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>>3056119
smgs spit out more bullets which do less damage, basically
you need to be closer to have good accuracy, they have a harder time against armor, you need more bullets and more repair kits, and more dexterity to get the cheapest attack costs
ARs have range and more damage per bullet, and the concentrated fire feat which basically gives them even more damage
smgs can spit out more damage per turn, but its more conditional
ARs are superior, but its like being mega OP vs just being super OP
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>>3056119

you use a shit ton more repair kits with a smg
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Ok bros, I'm going to do an assault rifle build for my first playthrough. Looked up tincan gameplay and don't really like what I see. I've played a few crpgs before so I think I'll be fine to freestyle my own build.

This look good?
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>>3056155
that'll do
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>>3056155
I'll give you some strong hints.
>Traps and grenades are your answer to all your problems. Kind of like a skip button really.
>Look up the feats section, click on all. Search for any feat you like, and prepare for them
The rest should be obvious as long as you didn't go full retard with a 1st run dominating
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>>3054725
>What is your favorite build?
Chem pistol

>What is your favorite spell?
Psycho-temporal Contraction

>What is your favorite unique?
Rathound Regalia

>What is your favorite music track?
Mutagen Tanks

>What is your favorite town?
Core City

>What is your favorite oddity?
Broken Motion Detector

>What is your favorite character sprite?
Chemical Assault Unit
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Haven't played this game in ages so I don't really remember what's good and what's not. Is an agile spear character who's all in on dodge+evasion a good idea on hard? Would also be dipping into some psi stuff because I ignored magic in my other playthrough.
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>>3055855
Barrel stare is okay for bosses I guess, its condition is mutually exclusive with leading shot but you can taser the boss and not have to deal with evasion. For everyone else the damage is not worth getting into melee range and dealing with evasion.
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>>3056041
>epistols not the lowest of the guns but instead on top of everything
>fist over knife when unarmed has a much shittier power curve and gloves are just knife-lite
>full psi somehow not in top 5
>any melee weapons at all besides maybe knife over ranged weapons (except for xbow it sucks cock)
>firearm pistols UNDER XBOWS when it's around knife level
>no grenades mentioned when they're top 3
Massive bait.
>>3056044
Decent ranking except for sniper being so low and hammer being lower than throwing knives.
>>3056053
>sniper is the worst gun
When energy pistols exist?
>electroshock would be fine except it has no range and it needs aimed shot to reliably kill more than the first enemy, plasma pistol is the designated boss killer, so laser pistol is your only workhorse
>need 14 dex so your laser pistol can actually fire as much as sniper can comfortably achieve with a feat and a weapon mod while having twice the range
>need 9 con for SI so you can actually reliably oneshot NPCs with your peashooter
>need 7 int at least for a bit of base damage + crit damage
>don't have many points for per leftover so your natural accuracy will be in the dumps and you'll have to overcompensate with CC throwables, just play a grenade build
>if you dump int for per on the one build that has to get perhaps the most effective electronics around then crafting will be an absolute pain in the ass
Meanwhile sniper just gets 5 str maxes per if they want and gets three feats and hits everything besides some number bloated Dom bosses. You want to start oneshotting high HP NPCs without aimed shot too? You can get SI if you want, or branch out into some psi for utility instead. And you don't need to craft a new weapon every 20 quality jump for an extra 1 base damage.
>>3056119
ARs are much higher base damage and can equip scopes for either more crit chance or more crit damage. They also have better effective range so you can fire from further away. SMGs are less committed to one burst though.
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>>3056391
Laser pistol built around crits will deal 800-900 dmg without any conditions or special shots, which is enough to 1 shot anything but bosses on dominating for 15 AP (or less if you go more dex).
It has also a precision bonus and big range for a handgun.

Fist is better than knife because you can get them down to 4 AP which will proc all those sweet feats like taste for blood and cheap shots more often. Also combo, which can stun ontop of dealing massive extra dmg.
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What do you think about this sniper?
https://underrail.info/build/?HgQFCgkMAwPCoCMAAAB9wqBkVQAAwpvCggAUeAAAAEsAFF8rMWI5ATUCf35LRxkzRMKHwrXCpMKm4qCKA-KnlgXip5cD4q-8A-KvvQHfvw
Gonna stick with rathound regalia for the entire game for the +1 STR
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>>3054878
the DLC is hellish for everything that isn't Psi so you'll need to learn to cope anyway
IIRC the melee jet skill is free
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>>3056367
Depends on what psi stuff you run. TM is generally the "fuck it" psi path that people use, especially for melee builds. Prob don't need me to tell you this but dodge & evasion require heavy investment to be worth it and they kill a lot of your crafting options.
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Attacking a man in melee? Foolishness, woman.
Strages rides rivers of red once more because I beat DOMINATING with him before the Tchort buff
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Help a nigga who has only ever done a pure psi build make a gun build. Had a few questions:

1. Does crit chance behave normally with burst/full-auto, or is there some special rule? For example, if my crit chance is 35%, does that mean its only 35% on single normal shots or does it remain 35% for each shot fired in burst/full-auto?

2. Is strafe worth taking on an assault rifle or sniper build? AR/sniper are the main things I am looking at right now.

3. How much perception is actually necessary? From what I have read, people seem to act like you're fucked on any guns build if you're not pumping perception all the way.
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>>3056702
Works normally
Nope
If you want hit things that are far away, you want it high
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>>3056702

depends on difficulty

if dom you want 12+
anything else you can get away with under that
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>>3056703
Strafe is definitely worth it on sniper rifles. Being able to run around all you want and still have perfect accuracy on spearhead is really good. It also means you don't have to care about those situations where los fucks up so you can see an enemy but the game still insists you move 1% of a tile before it lets you shoot them, because fuck those are frustrating without strafe.
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>>3056702
Yes, crit calculates for each individual shot in a burst.
Strafe is only worth it on sniper and xbow.
Depends on the gun. Burst guns can go as low as 8 on Dom due to how many attacks they inflict. Shotguns around there too since you have a feat that ignores a huge chunk of evasion. Sniper/xbow you definitely want over 10, any kind of pistol you want around 10 or more if you can. Keep in mind I'm just mentioning the minimum required to max hit chance on common enemies, since it fluctuates depending on your range.
>>3056732
Agreed on the weird tile fuckery where somehow an enemy can shoot at you but somehow you can't fire back without moving. It's really annoying and has cost me many a reload.
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>>3056732
>>3056785
I always wondered how that happens.
You can't move half a tile, so how is that even possible?
Especially annyoing if you are trapped in a net or acid blob.
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>>3056795
it's the same way enemies can see and shoot a tile further than you
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>reach DC elevator
>go do expedition
>reach Nexus of Technology
>reroll with a new build

I have never even reached DC and I've been playing since 1.0
Help
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Is it wise to take 3 intelligence if I intend to go heavy on crafting? From what I've seen the crafting feats are pretty negligible.
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>>3056814
You can boost your crafting skills by 15% in your core city home if you buy all the work benches and eat Joe's special for additionally +5 for all skills.
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>>3056806
Expeditions is worth finishing. Deep Caverns is worth it once. I'll never subject myself to Deep Caverns again.
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Disciplining women the proper way.
Let's go meet your new husband
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>>3056840
Make sure to tell him the joke
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>>3056842
I am playing a gigachad madlad who kills abominations with his bare fists.
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>>3056662
is there some shit happening offscreen because i don't remember her being nearly that squishy on dom
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>>3056859
She can take quite a beating on dom, looks like he's on hard
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>>3056863
okay yeah that makes a lot more sense, i remember her spawning with a shock tungsten knife once and gutting both turrets without even breaking a sweat
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>>3056848
There can only be one king, and he isn't a faggot who hides behind his pets.
>>3056859
>>3056863
I loaded a save I took while I had her incapacitated.
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>>3056886

Just realized i've never actually fought the rathound king I always cheese him with magnesium grenades and bear traps
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>>3056904
shamefru dispray
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Your sex slaves belong to me now.
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>>3056702
you shouldnt play xbow or sniper without strafe
ARs dont need it; that 5% is nothing
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>>3056904
>>3056910
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>>3056957
Did you pickpocket his crossbow?
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>>3056970
you cant pickpocket an equipped weapon or utilities afaik, but you can pickpocket regular bolts
since xbows dont have loaded ammo like guns, if you steal the bolts they can't shoot (except for equipped special bolts)
then I hit him with mental breakdown to keep him from going before his rats so they block the door
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Throwing knives are shit! SHIT!
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>>3056985
I still don't understand how their crit works.
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>>3056985
They're pretty "memeish", but you have throwing, three pointer and crafting, so you already won the game.
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Shit! SHIT!!!
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Energy pistol or firearms pistol
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>>3057027
Energy is stronger.
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>>3057027
Energy
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>>3057027
Both are great fun, but I like that you can play with unique firearm pistols never putting a single point into crafting and still make it to the end.
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Do you always play dominating anon?
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>>3057038
Yes.
But my first two runs was on hard because Dominating didn't exist yet.
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>>3056987
me either
does anything boost it at all? flat dex stat? death's grin maybe? what about crit damage? it's a fucking mystery and the wiki has nothing to say
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>>3057040
Ripper definitely works.
I have Crit Power too but not sure if it works.
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>>3057041
oh huh, so it does
>will 5
reeeeeeee
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>>3057030
>>3057031
any recommendations on a build?
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>>3054725
>What is your favorite build?
Spear + psi (either PK or MT)
>What is your favorite spell?
Probably cryo orb or TK punch
>What is your favorite unique?
>bieretta (with versatility + expertise build)
>What is your favorite music track?
The tribal invasion one
>What is your favorite town?
I like ‘em all but I always go to Camp harthor first for the solid weapon you get at the end
>What is your favorite oddity?
No opinion.
>What is your favorite character sprite?
Sea wyrm overcoat
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>>3057038
Nah.
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>>3056814
It's doable but your final gear will come later than normal. You'll also have to put more points into crafting than if you had taken intelligence.
>>3057027
Firearm because better AP economy and you have Bullet Time.
>>3057038
Yes.
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>>3054725
>What is your favorite build?
Probably critical focused AR with 10 agility. Not the best build and I haven't seen/heard anyone else do it. But I enjoyed it quite a bit.
>What is your favorite spell?
Over 300 hours in the game and have literally never made a psi build kek
>What is your favorite unique?
M16, don't remember what they call it in game.
>What is your favorite music track?
Drop-Zone. That was actually the moment I fell in love with the game.
>What is your favorite town?
Core City.
>What is your favorite oddity?
The pip-boy in Junkyard.
>What is your favorite character sprite?
Riot armor. Shame it fucking sucks.
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In my last 5 games I have gotten the scout bot quest. What the fuck is going on? I remember back in the day I'd get the body getting brought in pretty regularly. Did >Styg change the dynamic opener quest probability or something?
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I also like drop zone, but its not my fav
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>>3057156
i've grown to hate a good chunk of expedition music because of tedious dungeons
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>See build idea that peaks interest on forums
>First thing I see is psi empathy
I hate how fags shoehorn their dumb magic everywhere. Especially temporal manipulation.
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>>3057578
Literally no reason to not pick it unless you want to gimp yourself on purpose for some fake feeling of superiority.
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he so smol
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The missing train isn't here.
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>>3056806
lmao same
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>>3057578
Its their cheat code, babies can't handle the game without it.
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>>3057635
Let me guess, you need grenadier and throwing and traps every single playthrough too? Lmao. I have over 300 hours in this game and never play psi. Can prove it with achievements. Closest I came was fucking around with temporal manipulation up to like level 8, where I realized it was fag shit and dropped it like a bad habit.

Real men only need a fucking gun, big ass hammer, or a knife/spear.
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>>3057743
Case in point.
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>>3057749
Pathetic. I really hope Styg finds a way to make TM not able to be shoved into whatever build with pretty much no downsides in Infusion. That little health penalty is nowhere near enough to be able to milk free actions because you're too much of a dumbfuck to kill without it or position yourself to be untouchable. People talk about how strong grenades and traps are, and don't get me wrong, they are. But TM is rarely mentioned in that convo. It's just as much of a fucking crutch.
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>>3057755
Whatever you say, discord troon.
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Holy shit.
The Praetorians are fucking trash
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>>3057788
Industrial bots are just too god-tier
They even have quite high crit resistance.
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>>3057791
He took the sniper's aimed shot like it was a 5mm
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My fists just hurt too much
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>>3057815
then you would be brutalizer, baby arms
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HERE WE GOOOOOOO
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OxNeZiOr_zs&ab_channel=MYFIRSTSTORY-Topic
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I know you lurk, Styg. I have an idea for Infusion which you better listen to.

Certain merchants should have a "special order" function where the player can specially order certain items, particularly crafting components, and be able to set a range for the level of quality the item will come in. For example
>I want to order a Marauder assault rifle frame, quality between 99-120
The kick is, you overpay for special orders. By a lot. Ideally like 3-4x what it would cost just by finding it in a vendor's shop by chance. It'd also take a little while to arrive, similarly to how super steel takes a minute to forge.
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>>3057870
Faster than you but you're more durable than me.
Let's finish this.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VznpUInj7dg&ab_channel=RafifDewantara
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>>3057875
Your fists were slowed by your gloves. Even if you killed me, you would die from shock. It was an honor to fight someone else who saw the weakness of weapons. I will remember you forever. Rest now, Carnifex.
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>>3057873
this has been suggested already, more than once
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stack dex or perception for energy pistol
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>pure knife dex build with no psi
>got the mushroom cove scavenger robot event
wish me luck
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>Want to do chemical pistol geneva conventions violator build
>All the ones I find on forums use versatility
I'm still pretty new but am I missing something? Is it not possible to make a non-versatility chemical pistols build?
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>>3058074
it is, its just not as optimal
you'll want to split points between dex and per
with enough in int for feats
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Fix the fucking Shock Shurikens. They should scale mechanical damage just like Throwing Knives.
Also 30 per stack is cancer. They should stack like special bolts for crossbows.
Having more feats for critical chance with throwing knives would be nice. Making three-pointer work with them would make throwing knifes build actually fun, strong and playable.
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>>3058074
Possible? Sure, but versatility is beyond broken so every tryhard build uses it.
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>>3058078
>>3058088
Would this work? I'd split all my additional points I get into levelling between perception and dexterity. I really have no idea what I am doing, only ever done a metal armor assault rifle build before this.
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>>3058104
yep, that looks fine
you'll want your dex at a point that lowers the ap cost from chempistols to a certain amount
https://www.stygiansoftware.com/wiki/index.php?title=Dexterity
open the horizontal chart
I don't remember what score people usually pick, but for 1st level you're good to go
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>>3058107
>open the horizontal chart
No clue what I am looking at. Hopefully 14 dex is enough because that's what I am shooting for.
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Aww. He was a good punching bag.
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based
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>>3058134
*Can You Feel My Heart playing in the distance*
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>>3058117
if you aren't playing on dominating chemical pistols just deal with everything really easily and I wouldn't worry too much
the biggest problem you will have is your survivability
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>>3058138
even on dominating, chemical pistols destroy everything save nagas
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>>3058143
I assume versatility is op because of special crossbow bolts
the idea of needing it seems strange
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>>3058146
Versatility is OP because acid entrapment counts for deadly snares, which turns all your attacks into crits.
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I liked the other punching bag better.
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Returning player here, played 2 years ago and did a pure psi build. Forgot what exactly, not that it matters. I want to do a pure guns build now and I settled on full auto shotgun. Would something like pic rel work?
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>>3058177
>9 agility
for what purpose
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>>3058180
Bump to 10 on my first level for blitz. Then I'll probably get perception to 10. I've read perception isn't as necessary on shotty builds though because you're so close most of the time.
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>>3058183
my build had 8 str and 6 agi
I don't know what you need 7 str for and I can't figure it out on my own
I wonder if I have too much of a tendency to max my damage stat
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>>3058136

life in literal hell and she won't suck a cock for some coin. top lel
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>>3058191
>I don't know what you need 7 str for and I can't figure it out on my own
Full-Auto
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>>3058177
whats the dex for leading shot? if its 5 thats good
looks good; get agi to 10 like you said and put the rest in per
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Oh please.
There really should be a line about how you're tearing him apart with your bare hands
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any anons that can share some tips for dominating difficulty
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>>3058235

Realistically your build will suck ass until 15+

Abuse bear traps, gas grenades and caltrops.
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>>3057743
>>3057755
>I don't play builds like this because they're too easy so no one else should even though it's more content and replayability
What a baiting retard you are.
>I have 300 hours in this game
Cute that you think that's worth bragging about. Hours don't matter for one's argument anyway.
>>3058177
Looks good, keep in mind Blitz will pretty much only give you an extra attack every 10 turns though. Don't forget you can get a Tyranny to burst 5 shells and you can use the full damage boost for a Vindicator attack the next turn, or the same turn if you pop Adrenaline/Blitz.
>>3058235
Other anon has it about right, most builds have some sort of power spike that makes fights much less of a headache, only some like knife can cheese a high quality weapon at level 1 and trivialize the early and mid game. So use traps and gas nades in those hard fights. EMPs for robots, etc.
Abuse doors on mobs that can't open them, like most animals. Breaking line of sight with turrets also dunks on them if you have a ranged weapon or enough MP.
Craft a taser ASAP, most early fights are only a couple NPCs if not a single one.
You can go to junkyard as soon as you start the playthrough, enter the casino, and get a ton of XP and charons off killing that one scrapper dude for a later quest.
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>>3058235
figuring out the order in which you do quests/areas post-depot A is the most essential component of not having a bad time
embrace cheese in all forms until you get comfortable enough to live without it
crafting, consumables, drugs, traps, throwables, and food are now a lot more than just optional shit so use'em
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>>3058252
>keep in mind Blitz will pretty much only give you an extra attack every 10 turns though
an extra 20 ap during your alpha strike can make all the difference for an entire fight
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>>3058235
Everyone has higher dodge/evade so things that reduce/ignore those are all more useful than on lower difficulties. Incaps or roots or stuns or ambush or leading shot or whatever. Don't forget about them.
High evasion also means damage grenades are less effective so you can't rely on them as much either.
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>>3058252
>Looks good, keep in mind Blitz will pretty much only give you an extra attack every 10 turns though
Do you mean the cooldown or is there some obscure shit I am not aware of? Either way my main idea for taking blitz was to activate sprint, adrenaline, anything I have to give me extra movement points in a pinch to convert them all to action points. Ideally, that'd let me spray as many shells as I need to get through the encounter. That's all just my theory, I'm only experienced in metathermics and temp manipulation.
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>>3056555
X key to swap weapons
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>>3058293
adrenaline doesnt give extra move points
and yes he means the cooldown
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The protectorate isn't sending us their best
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>>3058490

never understood why styg hid their unique names unless you were on the protectorate's side.
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I can play a pistol build on dominating without going versatile and still be fine right
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>>3057974
int
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Pathetic
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>>3058513
Maybe they were initially mooks, and got turned into characters later on
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This was painful without endgame gear
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I just realized I specced into the wrong feat
can i fix this in cheat engine? my last save before is fucking forever ago
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>>3058732

just add it from the console
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>>3058741
Console?
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>>3058744

In Documents\My Games\Underrail create a new file called customConfig.xml and in it put

<PropertyCollection xmlns:xsd="http://www.w3.org/2001/XMLSchema" xmlns:xsi="http://www.w3.org/2001/XMLSchema-instance">
<Property Name="AllowConsole">
<Value xsi:type="xsd:boolean">true</Value>
</Property>
</PropertyCollection>

Then in game it's the ~ (tilde) key just like every other game's console. Type listcommands to see all the commands. there should be one like playeraddperk and then the name of the perk will be like !sprint or something. it will pop up though it's not hard to navigate.
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>>3058746
yeah, i don't see anything relating to spec points
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>>3058766

We're talking about a feat that you accidently didn't spec into right? You can add the ability via

playergiveSpecialability <skillhere> without the <>'s.

It won't appear in your feat list but you'll get the skill to use it.
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should I dump agility for more dex / int. planning to play energy pistols with a tiny bit of Psychokinesis just for the stuns
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>>3058855
Depends on what kind of energy pistols build you want. If you're using high technicalities you want pretty high int because it scales your damage. I did a 3 int energy pistol build once just because I thought the idea of a retard who happened to stumble upon a very advanced weapon and dominate with it was funny.
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>Start game with X build
>Make it through Depot A
>This is fun, I'll try a different build now
>Start game with Y build
>Make it through Depot A
>This is fun, I'll try a different build now
I've only ever actually finished this game once. I'll probably never finish it again.
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>>3059004
Funny, depot A is when things actually start happening
You are just going through the first zone over and over
The only game where I kinda did that was DOS2
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Are carrier vests actually worth using by themselves? They seem kind of shitty. Seems like the way to go is either leather or metal
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>>3059038
you mean tactical vests
yes, they're a good generalist armor, and probably the best for psifags due to beetle carapaces
you're right that leather and metal are better in most ways
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can I still stealth around on dominating with 3 agility if i've got high enough stealth gear
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Damn man it is so hard to make an optimized spear and shield build.
>Need armor sloping to reduce penalty (6 int)
>Need iron grip, and early too because you can get armor as soon as Junkyard (11 str)
>Need at a bare minimum sprint (6 agi)
Now my throwing is going to be shit. I was aiming to have spear throw as well just because it'd be nice to have but I don't see any way that is happening between how hard I have to pump strength and needing to get another point in intelligence for armor sloping.
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>>3059403
Getting stealth bonus with gear is pretty easy if you can craft so I guess it could work against things that are not deathstalkers. There's the stealth field emitter too.
Never played with anything like than 6 AGI myself.
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Every game I seem to get harlan and his robot. I dont remember the last time I went to the water treatment plant
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>>3059583
Same.
Feels like it's a 90% chance to get him.
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>>3059583
same here but then every tiime i want to complain about it i remember the water treatment version with the turrets and electrified floors
what possessed styg to have instakill floor sections that activate in real time while you're still in turnbased combat?
that gauntlet room is also pure fucking cancer
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>>3059593
>floor sections that activate in real time
They don't, it's just that their turns are very long and you are forced to exist turn based mode after 1 turn.
Same thing in the garbage facility and phreaks hideout, if you got a lot of MP you can totally make it in turn based.
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I fucking hate psi beetles
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There can only be one.
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>>3059844
>psionic
>sniper
>rathound king
yeah, no
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>>3059918
It's his cooler brother who embraces technology and enhanced brain capacity.
He also got cool shades.
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>>3059844
ha, we're even using the same gun
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>>3059943
It's great for killing spree, two free kills
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Bros, I am making a riot shield spear build and I am torn between 6 intelligence for armor sloping or 5 dex for spear throwing. I can't have both since I'm going all in on strength and con on top of that
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>>3059966
I built one a long time ago but never played it

https://underrail.info/build/?HhAGBgcDAwUAwqAAwqAAABRzTE0AaG5QXFkAAAAAdABRJsKCwpXCrwYSwqzClMKqwpPCq0vCtjlVCC_in4QB4qKMA-KzogPitrYD4remBd-_
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What level do you start putting points into your other crafting skills
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>>3060342
Crafting is literally all in the wiki
You shouldn't put 1 point into it unless you want to trial and error everything (which is fine for electronics)
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no leveling a stat above 10 challenge?
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>>3060792
totally doable
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Is there any point in using daggers?
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>>3060886
higher crit chance
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>>3060889
Doesn't seem to be worth lowering the bottom damage range for it, it's only a few %.
A serrated knife seems to be superior in every way.
But I wonder how this 25% extra damage that passes armor plays out.
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>>3060892

the 25% makes up for the bottom damage range, plus you'll most likely only be using it on targets who have expose on them making it extremely situational.

better just to run kukri and a combat knife
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>>3060897
>the 25% makes up for the bottom damage range
But then again with vile weaponry and taste for blood a serrated knife can stack up way more damage modifiers.
Also higher crit damage which gets doubled by critical power.
Yeah kukri is a must for spammable expose weakness.
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>>3060886
I dont know for a fact, but by my math they do the most damage to organic targets

serrated = tfb stacking (but uniques are better)
combat = for robots
dagger = everything else
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I'm torn between making a shield and spear spartan build or survival instincts knife for my first melee run. Both sound very fun
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>>3060935
shield and spear is a hard run; it sucks against anything that isnt mechanical melee

knives are a very solid option
everytime I play a knifer I have a real easy time, but ive never done SI, just 10 agi ones
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>>3060935
Shield and spear is the worst spear variant and is inferior in every way to a SS can. SI knife on the other hand demolishes the game, especially if you kill Mordre early on for his knife, with a gas nade so SGS doesn't get buttmad that you killed a bigger asshole than even Bret.
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>>3059484
Spear + shield just kinda sucks sadly. EXTREMELY feat-intensive and doesn't even do that much damage. You absolutely cannot make a psi hybrid out of it either unless you're a 3 Will TM gamer, you just don't have the stats to spare for it.

If you want, drop Constitution to 5, put 3 of those points in DX and the last one in IN for armor sloping. That's much more functional.
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>>3060792
Shotgun build
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>>3060935
If you want an actually GOOD spear build, go with this.

https://underrail.info/build/?AQoIBgUDAwUADwAPDw8AAAAAAA8ADwAPAAAAAAAADyQ5378

Main goal is to get tabi boots by the time you do Depot A, run super fucking fast and chuck javelins (crafted spears later once Javelin damage starts to fall off) at shit until they die.

Endgame would look something like this:

https://underrail.info/build/?Hg4KBgUDAwUAwqAAwqDCoMKgAAAAAAB4Umh1eAAAAAAAAGEkOS_ClRYSwpQ-wqwNGuKfhAHipbwB4rOiA-Kzowrfvw

If you want it to be even more fun, drop Dodge and put those points in Intimidation and get Yell. The build is so light on Feats you can basically do anything your stats will support. Traps, sneak, etc. Also the exact numbers on the crafting skills aren't accurate they can be whatever arbitrary amount you'll need to craft your endgame stuff with the workbench in your house. You don't really need much just a good set of Super Steel armor, a bunch of good spears, Mark V nades, NIGHT VISION GOGGLES ARE ABSOLUTELY ESSENTIAL YOU WILL NEED THESE, and as good an energy shield as you can make.

Highlights of the gameplay with this was me kiting all of the Ironheads to death chucking like 15 javelins I had in my inventory at them and running away faster than they could ever catch me, including Balor. The damage it does at longer ranges is fucking absurd and with DX as high as it is you'll have very very good accuracy with your spears. The damage output would be objectively higher than snipers if Throw Spear had no cooldown.
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>>3060987
Forgot the associated image, also the build needs 6 IN not 5, so deduct that from DX probably.
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>>3060935
>first melee run
Pure fist or STR sword.
Anything else first is for sissies
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does anyone have a chainsaw build? not sure if a normal str sword build would work for it or if i need some special feats
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>>3059484
What I have found about spear and shield builds are they are OK at best. Certainly fun, though. The issue is, you really gotta time your feats well and you're very dependent upon your gear. I didn't feel like my build had it's sea legs until I finally managed, through sheer RNG, to get riot armor that was exactly at 50% penalty so that I could maximize my resistances and health through juggernaut, but also maintain some mobility. Armor sloping is an absolute must on any shield build imo, because riot armor honestly just fucking sucks and you really need to fluff your resistances up any way you can. Even then, all you can manage to be is still worse than any metal armor set. The shield does help with melee, but in all honesty, its still better to just use metal armor. Yeah shield bash is cool, but dirty kick is better in every way and it doesn't require you to commit to a garbage armor set to use it.

I did not finish my spear/shield playthrough but I did have fun, particularly in the arena. I just don't like how feat intensive it is, just to be probably the worst but still viable melee build in the game.
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>Only beaten Underrail once
>Just found out about the tattoo system with the mutant
>Sounds cool
>Find out you can't have both the tattoo and psychic bitch Coral in the same game, so if you see Coral just restart if you want a tattoo
>Read if you immediately run to the docks at the start of your game and don't see Coral, you're good to go and that means she didn't spawn in your game
>Run to docks, don't see her, cool I can get a tattoo
>Now 3ish hours in, made it to Junkyard
>Coral's retarded cunt ass is at the bar
Awesome. I really do fucking hate some of the design choices Styg made with this fucking game. God damn man, I don't want to restart just to have a chance to see something new only to get cucked again by this stupid cunt. Fuck you Styg.
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>>3061948
you have to delet gypsy
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>>3061948
Just mod the game. Oh, wait...
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>>3061948
There is a workaround a lot of use and thats just deleting the gyspy file so she never spawns and booth always spawns.
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>>3061948
Take matters into your own hands then.
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you WILL play a superstitious cave dweller
you WILL get your palm read
you WILL buy the charm
you WILL kiss it in every fight
and you WILL chalk up all your success to psi ghost magic and be happy
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>removing content improves the game
welp
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>>3062021
If the fucking gypsy at least didn't take away something that actually serves a gameplay purpose I'd be cool with her being in the game. The problem is you have a possibility of getting a random encounter that could give you minor boosts to certain things, or some gypsy who sells you a trinket that is literally worthless. I don't see why it has to be one or the other and not both. And I also don't see why if it does have to be one or the other, Styg couldn't add actual value to the gypsy's trinkets. It could've been very interesting having an item in your offhand actually provide a passive during combat.
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>>3062029
The "mutually exclusive" content is a terrible idea for a game as long as UR. Guess Styg is going to double down on this gay shit for Infusion.
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Someone needs to play throwing knifes build to know my pain.
Genocided native.
Don't want to DC.
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Hammer builds any good? Thinking of making non-psi pure hammer.
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>>3062103
i've done before and i'm currently doing it a second time
it's fun as fuck, what is this pain you speak of?
unless it's the pain of running out of shit constantly in which case yeah alright that part does suck
DC will probably involve me al fabet walking to the elevator going down with a couple hundred pounds overweight of throwing knives and i'll still likely run out
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>>3062116
No. I tried out the best one I know of, one that I can't improve on myself, back in january and I'm forced to admit that they're just not much good. If you're gonna play a hammer, play a hammer wizard.
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>>3062128
Even something like pic related wouldn't be fine? I'm only playing on normal, probably should've mentioned that. No way in hell I could beat dominating even with the best build, I'm not that good.

If using psi is what it takes to make hammers viable, what would you recommend?
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>>3062128

do you have a hammer wizard build @ 30 like that image?
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>>3062132
you can play anything on normal and be fine, really

>>3062136
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I don't remember how often hacking and lockpicking is used. Am I missing out on a ton of stuff if I don't invest in either? I pretty much always take them iirc, but now I want to invest in dodge and evasion since I never use either.
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>>3062180
just jump in and try it
I did once and it ended up with me developing my favorite character and playstyle
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>>3062029
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>>3062148

thanks, guessing this is a 95% tung armor type build too?
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>>3062292
yes, highest armor penalty you can get
though id say a shaded tungsten helmet is generally better than an ironhead
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>>3062294
It is.
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The fuck? I didn't know this could spawn not affiliated with the water treatment quest. I got the Harland bot quest and had this spawn outside the place you find Newton.
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>>3062340
yep, its one of the random treasure items
never seen one there though; good for you to find one that early
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>>3062116
They're good enough but most other weapons that are decently built will have an easier time with the game. Psiless is fine but you'd better get crit chance and use TiChrome.
>>3062128
>no Expose Weakness just so you can take 10 Con (lol) and 4 Agi (lmao)
Absolute 1 Int motioning retard.
>>3062132
Keep Agi at 7 and Con at 9, get EW.
>No way in hell I could beat dominating even with the best build
Dominating's difficulty is overrated, it's really mostly about knowing your way around the game and how you can cheese mobs when your build hasn't come online yet.
>>3062180
Hacking has some bonus stuff that can be nice and you can skip the naked part of JSHQ with it, lockpicking is pretty much an inferior pickpocketing outside of letting you unlock vents with 3 Str. Neither are strictly necessary.
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>>3062340

Jeez what a early game find.
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>>3062354
Not sure anyone even buys luxury items early on so it might not be that useful.
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>>3062345
no, you're an idiot
super slamming spiked sledges and balors hammer with high crit chance and mega strength dont need EW, especially if they do crowbar + blasting cap in their off hand
you could argue the quad naga fight, but with evasion and blast cloth you can just let them blow themselves up if you stay close enough to them, and with your mega damage reduction you'll be fine if they slap you
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>>3062361
oh yeah, you're right
its pretty much just derica
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Don't know why everyone hates on con and acts like it is wasted points. Its tons of fun.
>Low dex
>Accidentally throw grenade at my feet
>Kill everything I was trying to kill
>And survive

>Get into fight with the pipeworkers shacking up outside Junkyard
>Light entire ground on fire and chase the retards around through it barely even noticing while they AAAAHHHH themselves to death

Not to mention unrestricted access to the most based feats in the game.
>Thick skull (makes crawlers a fucking joke)
>Last stand
>Survival instincts
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>>3062363
>high crit chance
>Slegdehammers
As if.
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>>3062375
You forgot the part in which you can become inmune to mental/electrical damage.
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>>3062404
yep, you're a tard
>SI
>focus stim
>bandana
>body horror
52/55% with balors is no joke
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>>3062428
Gee guess I never played a sledgehammer before.
Silly me.
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>>3062363
>blasting cap crowbar
>when TiC hammer is better, deals more damage, and has less AP cost
And it's not about not needing the feat, it's about convenience. Hammer is one of the least feat intensive weapons in the game. You don't even have energy edges and high Dex for kukri to be able to argue for skipping EW.
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>>3062444
oh, and infused rat if you decide to forgo the fursuit
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>>3062449
Please keep teaching me on how to play sledgehammer builds.
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>>3062448
you just dont need it
if you need your ability points elsewhere, giving those up to get 5 int is just a bad idea
if you're taking 5 int anyway, or you arent tight on ability scores, then sure
but this optimal non-psi hammer build does need them
it doesnt need the 4 agi, but dropping that to 3 still only gives you 1 point when you need 2 to get to 5 int
no way am I dropping str or con on a build like this

>>3062456
you clearly need it
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>>3062459
>you just don't need it
You clearly can't read since I said it was about convenience, not necessity. You don't need ability points anywhere else so bad, especially not for fucking Thick Skull which is incredibly shit.
While you're scrambling to get blasting caps early on and only debuffing a single enemy per fight, I can dish out an EW every 4 turns for tanky shits and be not worse off at all for it on my build. I can kill industrial robots without going out of my way and reapplying a consumable on my offweapon every time I exit combat.
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>>3062554
>especially not for fucking Thick Skull which is incredibly shit.
ok, you really are retarded
I can't spend time on you
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>>3062563
Bye!
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>>3062563
>heh I'm so tanky with 10 Con and full tungsten armor and Conditioning and specced Stoicism
>NOOOOOO I CAN'T BE STUNNED FOR A SINGLE TURN AGAINST AN OPTIONAL ENEMY NOOOOOOOOOOO
I think the only retard here is you buddy.
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imagine playing with more than 3 con
imagine actually getting hit by things
couldn't be me
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>>3062583
*Dies on the first hit*
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>>3062587
>getting hit
sounds like a you problem champerino
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>>3062594
*Gets hit regardless*
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>>3062646
*has a decent shield*
*pops a health hypo*
*kills everyone turn 2*
*nuzzles your bulgy wulgy*
is that all you got or are you just used to sitting there and taking it
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>>3062665
*Dies on the first hit regardless*
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>>3062694
>>3062646
>>3062587
A quick PSA to all - never play chess with a pidgeon like this one.
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>>3062726
Claiming to never get hit it's on the same same level as 'Nope, my queen simply does not get killed by your pieces'
The only right action to take, is to mock it
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>>3062231
doesn't really work but i appreciate the effort
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>>3062583
My mind can kick your mind's ass!
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>>3062958
man fuck fighting against psi
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>>3062583
I enjoy having an extra 30% crit chance on most builds
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Civilians? nobody down here but a bunch of raiders
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>>3063164
One of the few times Gorsky has a point.
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>>3063164
I love the smell of napalm in the morning
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So I'm trying to do the Junkyard quest for the Black Eels and apparently to plant the C4 in Depot A I need to get into a vent, but I don't have any lockpicking skill at all. Am I fucked? Can I just not do this quest?
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>>3063367
Try a crowbar, hope you have some str. You can find them from the lurkers near where go to GMS there are bunkers down below and those guys carry a crowbar.

https://www.stygiansoftware.com/wiki/index.php?title=Steel_Crowbar
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>>3063367
theres a vent thats opened already
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>Immune to dirty kick
>Immune to flashbangs
>Frags barely scratch him even though he's wearing a fucking tunic
>Insanely high dodge and evasion
Guess he doesn't have balls? Or eyes? Seriously, this fight is fucking bullshit.
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>>3063453
he's a mutant; we don't know what his biology is like
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>>3063453

hes not immune to gas grenades though which I thought was pretty funny considering his lore
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>>3063453
You're not supposed to fight him.
and he's biologically immortal
man doesn't eat or sleep
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>>3063478
>You're not supposed to fight him.
Fuck him, he's dead now just because of how bullshit he is.
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>>3063478
then why does he carry a unique?
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Whats the effective level to stop leveling hacking /lockpicking again
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>>3063541
150
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Had to cheese him with bear traps but I don't even feel bad about it considering the fucking ridiculous stats this faggot gets.
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>>3054725
>What is your favorite build?
Loreful Psimonk
>What is your favorite spell?
Force Emission
>What is your favorite unique?
Balor's Hammer (Stygger nerf notwishtanding)
>What is your favorite music track?
Expedition main theme
>What is your favorite town?
SGS
>What is your favorite oddity?
Whichever gives the most points. Beast?
>What is your favorite character sprite?
Tchort heavy soldiers
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kHaqIjUz3oQ
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for every new character you guys make do you go to junkyard and get the cheese shield + early charons?
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>>3063600
>cheese shield
Is a shield guaranteed in Depot A? I thought it was randomized. But early money and XP for sure on Dominating.
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>>3063600
I never do that.
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just learned you can't freeze these niggas which is depressing. I'm still able to practicality 2 shot them with a EW butterknife but I still feel robed of what could've been
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>>3062013
Doppelganger is a rad spell though
>>3062375
CON is not hated, just left as a dump stat because more damage = good
Less damage taken also good but it certainly doesn't feel that great without putting some real points into it

Also yes doing an indiscriminate 'nades run with high CON is tons of fun
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>>3061712
It's a sword like any other. Set action point use so no reason to go with dex sword (not like you should either)
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How does cryostasis and exothermic aura interact? Ice cube melts immediately when you go near or after passing turn?
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>>3063600
I do it on certain builds on dominating but not always
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>>3063697
swords arent light weapons, dingledongle

>>3063768
I just did the ice tower with an mt build; running past frozen mobs while exo is active did not wake them up
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how can anything compete with bear traps
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What do you do first on dominating after handing in the drill parts
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>95% chance to hit
>miss snipe
>miss aimed shot
>miss regular shot

Bre...
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>>3064017
Wasn't there some schizo who used to post here explaining why 95% wasn't actually 95% and the rng in the game was fucked up? I remember hearing something about that. I definitely agree with that shit though, I'm doing a hammer playthrough right now and it seems like I miss 95% swings all the fucking time. Fuck Wyatt Pear.
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>>3063998
Get Core city quests, then to rail crossing to get fast travel and then foundry as youre near anyway at that point.
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>>3063998
Head over to foundry to rape Evelyn and do the quests for oculus
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>>3063942
People get confused when they see DEX requirements for feats, banga.
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So I want to do a second playthrough but I'm having a hard time with the build autism since Underrail is not that balanced, so I need advice.

Should I go for Energy Pistols or Chem. Pistols?
Max Dex for -AP or Per for Acc?
Which feats up to LVL 10?
No Psi/Versatility tho, just focus on one type of weapon
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>>3064236
>Should I go for Energy Pistols or Chem. Pistols?
Seems like a tough choice. Some things resist energy, some chem. Chems are probably tough early against mutants.
>Max Dex for -AP or Per for Acc?
You get AP from dex for pistols sooo... a little bit Per, but mostly Dex. 8 Per or something.
>Which feats up to LVL 10?
Look up forums?
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>>3063998
1) the great non-combat oddity hunt to go from lvl 10 -> 16. Usually pickpocket insignia from CC faction members.
2) level Electronics, construct custom energy shield with as high block and capacity as possible ASAP.
3) Rathound King, but save the burrowers until the energy shield hit just right.
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Fren
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Having fun on my hammer build so far, just wish hammers had more feats. You really only get
>Super Slam
>Bone Breaker
>Pummel
>Heavyweight
And super slam is honestly not even good, even if you push hard for as much health as possible it barely gives you more damage AND it has a cooldown. Bone breaker also isn't very good, if you crit with a hammer you fucking destroy whatever you hit anyway. Heavyweight requires a high armor penalty, which I avoid like the plague on melee builds in general so I honestly can't speak to how good it is (it sounds like shit). Pummel is pretty good.
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>>3064484
>Heavyweight
Should be just +dmg% instead of crit damage
>Super Slam
Should be passive/constant damage since it's just limited to sledge or a limited time buff but with 40% of your maximum health
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>>3064484
Im literally running a hammer build now (had one a while ago, dropped it, think it was nimble can) and now I decided to spice it up by going full can + grenades (never really used grenades extensively)
It shows, hammer alone has been left behind, aside from pummel making dodge twinks start quakin, you don't see good stuff

Then again, I re-started this run for the same reason I started it, to use Yell to the max . Its funny how Brutality also has an icon of a hammer user. The feats should be boosted with a hammer or something idk
Nothing is more intimidating than a big stick coming to get you
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>>3064540
>Then again, I re-started this run for the same reason I started it, to use Yell to the max
Yell+dodge+evasion are insanely based. I'm doing a zerker hammer build right now and I am barely taking any damage. The only fight that gave me trouble was Wyatt in Depot A, and that's because (A) I fought him at level 8 and (B) he's fucking bullshit and is immune to pretty much everything.
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>>3064484
>super slam
>not much extra damage
he doesnt know!
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>>3064415
>>3056948
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>>3064378

This is the best path imo. I always tried to go to hathor right after I hand in the drills and usually get fucked by the burrowers, but if you come back at 14-15 its a breeze.
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>>3064378
man i barely make it to 13 before i have to go actually do quests and shit, where are you getting all this extra xp from?
usually if i can't beat camp hathor at 13-14 then i consider my build scuffed to hell
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>>3063541
Hacking, around 100 effective, lockpicking at around 50 effective if you're 3 Str and only want vents and maybe a couple oddities earlier. Any more and you start getting useless loot.
>>3064236
For chempistols I don't know, but get 10 Dex for epistols because the next breakpoint is at 14 Dex and it's only one extra attack. You're better off getting more damage and crit chance for guaranteed oneshots.
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>>3064750
I don't know what? Redpill me on super slam
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>>3064828
try it with a spiked hammer
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>>3064836
Then I'd have to not use an electro-shock hammer. How much is a spiked hammer elevated with super slam? It'd need to be a ton to make that worth it.
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>>3064840
it applies super slam to each damage instance, so once for the hammer and once for each spike
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>>3064785
>where are you getting all this extra xp from
After Depot A, take trains and boats to the various hubs and there's a shitload of XP just lying around. Probably two levels worth in CC, ~1.5 levels worth in Foundry+mine, ~1 level between the easy Lurker tunnels + Rail Crossing. A lot just searching trashcans and stashes in the abandoned rail tunnels and connecting areas. Stealth makes it a lot easier to avoid battles while exploring, and a little metagame knowledge from previous playthrus goes a long way.
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>>3064962
Meant to mention you can take a quick jaunt to Expedition and collect a nice chunk of oddities without doing much or any fighting (stealthchads can't stop winning).
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What's the earliest laser pistol I can find?
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>>3065181
Junkyard, do the eddy quests until the disc
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>want to replay the game
>talk to old jonas
>don't want to replay the game
>want to replay the game
>so on and so forth
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>>3064964
>stealthchads
Anyone can (and should) carry stealth gear...
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Anyone use blades on a hammer before with taste for blood? I'm wondering if it'd be any good
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>>3065181
if you can sneak through the upper caves you can do the little quest for milton
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>>3065287
suboptimal
better to either have a serrated blade on your metal armor or use nail bombs
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Is it possible to spawn yourself items with the console? I'd like to play this again with a build of my choice and be able to play it the way I want right from the start.
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Do you pipeworkers have any cool art I can use as a desktop wallpaper?
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>>3065538
Yes, you can even spawn crafting components in a specific quality
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>>3065538

Yes. Only thing you can't seem to spawn is the steel dragon
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What was stygger smoking when making this thing?

A smart corsair rifle:
>can kill 2 guys for free with shoothing spree and even end up with more AP than what you started with
>insane damage up to 3k and more, meaning a guaranted kill if it hits even for nagas
>5 STR requirement

This thing:
>can only fire it once even with shooting spree, end up with 25 AP unable to shoot without using AP boosters
>need to line up enemies to get any use out of it (and potentially deal with move and shoot penatly)
>passthrough damage is regular damage, no crits
>no extra damage from unconditional attacks
>reduced crit damage
>dazes you (but not the enemy)
>7 STR requirement

Literally what's the point?
Is it for sticking in your urethra to scare enemeis because of how derailed you are?
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>>3065795
He was smoking the following
>make game
>make item(a) within game
>change game
>change game
>change game
>change items
>try to update item(a)
>fuck
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>>3065795
A lot of the uniques are shittier than even mid-game crafted items.
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>>3065795
the refurbished one is post-endgame, so its line attack shenanigans are just for fun, or maybe for people who do exped after DC, so against natives and locusts and shit
the regular black arrow is for noncrafter snipers to kill the endboss with (its good for snipes)
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>>3065845
Grenade abuse is more lore-accurate
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It's so fucking ridiculous
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>>3065927
first build I did it with was xbow
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well i'm a absolute fucking idiot who has just lost 4 hours of progress back to before Depot A after accidentally causing all of foundry to be hostile to me and having no saves from before
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>>3065982
it happens
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>>3065982
what did you do? forget to close the cell door or something?
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Does the rib breaker feat proc from the butcher's cleaver?
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Part of me still feels the urge to load my final save and see if my character can kill every NPC in the game.
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>>3065982
A good habit is making manual saves before doing any quests in controlled territory
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>>3054725
>favorite build
blob pistols I guess. dominating post-patch gunpowder pistols w/ tm dip run was pretty fun tho. and so was 3 int max AP las pistols w/ ambush.
>favorite spell
prepatch forcefield,
plasma beam
>favorite unique
prepatch red dragon
after its nerf, lemurian spear
>music track
expedition theme I guess. way too many good tracks in this game, josh culler rly improved a lot.
(other rly cool themes: tchort, lemuria outside, original main theme, gray army, savage battle, new main theme)
>favorite town
the rig
>favorite oddity
butcher's lucky charm
>favorite character sprite
bison armor sprite.

Other thoughts
>favorite boss
Abomination.
>favorite setting
Utility tower.
>favorite enemy
industrial robot.
>favorite npc
vivian
>>3054784
>favorite dialogue
I want to go home.
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>>3066491
>>favorite npc
>vivian
Simping for an NPC that love bombs you and acts cutesy has to be the most late teen thing imaginable. Styg is literally laughing in your face for falling for the bait.
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>>3066493
I know I just can't help myself, man.
Otherwise marcus+ladelman combo, or maybe the tchortist cafeteria guy you can hit on as a female character who constantly rejects you. Also shoutout to the faceless guy you can help out in core city.
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>>3066497
Shit tier

Best girl: Ljubostanka
Best lead: Ferryman
Non-human: The dumb mutant in Expedition
Bonus: Synesthete

Christ you have shit taste.
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>>3066503
Rude!
Ferryman is great tho.
>Ljubostanka
kek
>Synesthete
Fuck that's pretty good.
going back home and finding the hexagon gem was so cool. Actually why I liked aran so much, with him popping up in your basement to kill you for the acorn
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My favorite has always been old jonas. Kindred spirit.

I have to give props to six; I actually kinda like him, but more than that I like that he causes endless amounts of asspain to whiny tyrannical faggots
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>>3066508
>kek
Styg should've added way more humor like that. Kokoschka was a pretty funny character, but a whole dialogue tree feels like kicking a dead horse. But yeah, the eastern slav district in core city was a nice touch. We should've been to hunt down that no good svetlana.
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>>3066514
Jonas is a special snowflake. If he were a quirky old fart bullshitting you about going into DC, that'd be fine.
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>>3066517
ah, I thought you were being genuine
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>>3066518
The writing always disappoints because joke characters suddenly have deadpan reactions like dude bursting into treats. Styg is too obsessed with his character "mattering" in the overarching story. It's a silly game. It shouldn't be serious. Take notes from old fallouts. And especially, don't try to shoehorn "scary" writing as if your audience is 15.
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>>3054725
>What is your favorite build?
Nimblecan hammer probably. Getting armor penalty just right between skills and crafting mats can be a pain in the fucking ass but I live for that autistic shit.
>favorite spell?
In my 300+ hours I've never once messed around with psi beyond temporal manipulation. Kind of surprising. One of these days I'll make a pure psi build. I just don't like playing wizard/magic types in games like this.
>favorite unique?
Balor's hammer
>favorite music track?
Drop Zone. That was actually the moment the game really 'clicked' for me. Everything about Core City is awesome, especially the zoners.
>favorite town?
Core City
>favorite oddity?
The motion detector or pip boy
>favorite sprite?
Super steel
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>Hey, I've improved. I'm not *that* lazy anymore. ::He laughs.:: >But you, jerk, you disappoint me. Where's the welcoming >party, huh? Huh? Where's the gun salute? Explosions? >Scantily clothed chicks? And why aren't you standing on a >pile of corpses? What the hell, man?
>Also, you look older than Billy Toxic, by the way. Remember >him, grandpa?

Shit like this is why Underrail doesn't read like a deadpan story, but it still pretends to be deadpan. It reads like a slavic version of A Fistful of Dollars translated into English by a character from Lock, Stock and Two Smoking Barrels.

If Underrail was ever made into a film, it would've ended up as an Anime. The writing is that corny is inconsistent.
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>>3066515
I really enjoyed that little bit of the dropzone, same. Also there is a svetlana, she's in the coretech questline iirc. One of the thugs u might have to kill to get the device back or whatever, it's been a while I forget. Not sure if it's the same one tho. Would've been funny if there was an actual questline w/ helping out ljubostanka.
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>>3066539
It's two old friends with contrasting personalities meeting again, you soulless freak
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>>3066539
Idk personally to me its at a level where it's so bad its actually good. it's hard to describe but i'll take this corny shit every day over most modern day dialogue.
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>>3066589
It's not forced is the thing. Modern dialogue suffers from being so fucking fake. Don't you remember saying a lot of stupid shit throughout your life and meeting a lot of different people? Underrail dialogue is good because it's diverse and fits the characters you encounter. Six and Tanner are soulless alien freaks and it reflects in their dialogue. Gorsky is a hardass who believe in might makes right (it does), which reflects in his dialogue. Dude is a brilliant stoner and it reflects in his dialogue.
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>>3066587
Watch Lonesome Dove if you want to see well portrayed camaraderie between old friends. This kind of writing is inconsistent and forced. The phrases don't fit a bunch of misfits that lack an education (unless we are watching British telly about a bunch of quirky gangsters).
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What difficulty do y'all play on? I used to only play normal which got boring in the late game, so then I did 2 successful dominating runs, but now I feel like it's just too much work so I'm back to playing on normal. I kinda wish dominating didn't lock off content.
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>>3066661

Play on dom just for the boss HP. If i could get that feature on hard mode I would play that instead but alas
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>>3054725
>What is your favorite build?
SMG with Chem pistol hybrid
>What is your favorite spell?
Limited Temporal Increment
>What is your favorite unique?
Rigged D5 Mutagen :)
>What is your favorite music track?
grey army base
>What is your favorite town?
Junktown
>What is your favorite oddity?
Whatever that thing in the jar was
>What is your favorite character sprite?
Tactical coat
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>>3066661
Once I played on diminating I coudn't go back.
Hard is way too easy once you know how the game works, also all the extra encounters you miss out on.
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>>3066661
Dominating. Unironically, normal would be too easy now that I'm so used to it.
It's an unbalanced mess, but I love overcoming it.
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>>3066661
dom
as the others say, the other difficulties are too easy to be fun anymore
I could go another step harder or two
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>>3066661
Dom because bosses feel weird dropping dead after 2 hits. It's not fun, unless played with speedhacks though.
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>Can't find 100+ quality stabilization wings for my spear build character anywhere
>Eventually get bored and move on
>Now playing hammer
>Find 110 quality stabilization wings at level 11
Thanks styg
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>Other thoughts
>favorite boss
I guess Jookhela, at least in terms of the fight itself; she's probably the singest toughest enemy if not for the OP grounding spell
>favorite setting
tough call; I like some of the little hidden places in DC a lot, but I also like the outside ruins of lemuria
>favorite enemy
pic-related, sea wyrms for critters
>favorite npc
Old Jonas
>favorite jet
torpedo, its green and its the fastest
otherwise the shark is the most aesthetically pleasing, and the phaser which is also green and glows
if the torpedo had more siding and a kinda camo pattern and could glow like the phaser (and you could turn it off), then it would be the ultimate jet, hands down
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>>3067108
Oh yeah jetskis. Definitely shark for me. If the jetski with the tow ability wasn't so shitty at towing I would've picked that one tho.
>setting
God expedition introduced some amazing environments. I'm so damn happy it exists.
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>>3067125
Yep. When I was doing the beta test, I was just blown away. Underrail was already my 10/10 game, but this bumped it up to like 12/10.
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>>3067053
I haven't seen a hammerer frame in ages either. I'm considering using merchant refresh to finally stop caring about visiting vendors... the whole game is a design failure thanks to this RNG and loot slog.
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>>3054725
>favorite build?
Non-Adrenaline-Burst Cyclops (Cyclops but withought 9 agi and Psychosis instead of Tranquility)

>favorite spell?
PLasma Beam, of course.

>favorite unique?
Cyclops's Eye, duh.

>What is your favorite music track?
Sormirbaeren Invasion.

>favorite town?
Does expedition camp count? If not, Pirate Base.

>favorite oddity?
Cybernetic Module. Do not squander them.

>favorite character sprite?
Protectorate Dreadnaught. 80's dream come true.
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>What is your favorite build?
chem pistols or energy pistol
>What is your favorite spell?
Electrokinetic Imprint or kinesis
>What is your favorite unique?
W&S .44 Magnum
>What is your favorite music track?
Foundry or grey army base
>What is your favorite town?
Junkyard
>What is your favorite oddity?
Lunatic poetry
>What is your favorite character sprite?
Chemical Assault Unit Armor
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>>3054725
>What is your favorite build?
Zerker. It's the only build where I actually like skilling into dodge and evasion. Really good mobility and durability. Carnifex beat the living daylights out of me, but I still managed to kill him through a sheer slug-match.
>What is your favorite spell?
Tele-Punch.
>What is your favorite unique?
Would be Balor's Hammer if you didn't have to make a very specific build to use the damn thing. Guess I'd have to say The Glaive or Dehumanizer.
>What is your favorite music track?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ortn1SYIUQ8&t=146s
>What is your favorite town?
SGS
>What is your favorite oddity?
Bug spray because you find it on the feller that got ripped to shreds in a big spider's nest.
>What is your favorite character sprite?
Bison
>What is your favorite boss?
Carnifex
>What is your favorite NPC?
Gorsky is my main nigga, wish there was more to do after helping him in Core City. I remember I kept checking back every so often my first time playing the game just because Gorsky kept saying shit like "once we get settled we're going to be back at it", so I figured I could do more gang shit for him.
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>>3054725
>What is your favorite build?
I can't decide between Omnipsion, bare fist gigachad, or the walking war crime
>What is your favorite spell
Neural Overload trashes anything organic but Electrokinetic imprint is a close second
>What is your favorite unique
the high spiriter staff
>What is your favorite music track?
Abyssal Station (eldritch)
>What is your favorite town?
SGS is weirdly comfy for some reason even though you're never there for long.
>What is your favorite oddity?
The random bodyparts you collect, like a complete fucking lunatic.
>What is your favorite character sprite
Ancient Rathound with no overcoat tied with Bison leather with overcoat
shame both are kinda meh
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>>3067053
I swear rapid reloaders are rigged to no appear when you play a gun character, but then appear from level 1 with a melee.
Happens every fucking time.
Thank god for the dev console
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>>3067838
no, people that complain about this are just blind
RRs are dark and unassuming; your eye doesnt pick them up easily and you arent carefully looking
I sometimes see two at a time on merchants
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>>3068186
Junk jet, skipper, reef glider, blazer, shark, torpedo, phaser, glow, plasma leviator, devastator, aegis patroller, and protectorate cruiser
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>>3068196
junk jetS, freighter, reef glider, blazer, PHASER, torpedo, SHARK, glow, leviator, dev, aegis, cucks
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>>3068202
close
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>>3068203
what do you mean close? I was correcting you
its 100% accurate
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I don't understand why dogs will kill and eat psi beetles but rathounds will peacefully coexist with the beetles
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>>3068262
I will kill and eat you and all your children
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>>3068262
Mammals and insectoids are at war with eachother
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>>3068266
calm down, chaim
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>>3068268
rathounds are insectoids?
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>>3068271
Yes
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>>3068271
>>3068274
Wrong, faggots. Dogs are insectoids, psi beetles are actually mammals (check out that brain), rathounds are, naturally, also mama lls.
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>>3068286
They call her ghost because shooting spree missed and the text on the f9 key is worn out
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>>3068290
hehh
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>>3068286
Kino
Hope you went crit psi so you can fire a crit pyrokinesis and pretend it's a nuke
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>>3068313
Yessir, thats the plan. B)
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>>3068330
You
I like you
You're a chad
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>>3066539
>Cites dialogue
>Hurr durr story bad
You could have least complain about six being a gary stu or something
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what level are you generally when you finish Depot A
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>>3068541
20, I export then play it twice to compensate for the bad difficulty
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>>3068541
10 on Dommymommy

Including most available exploration and quests for the mysterious smoking man. Not including Silent Isle, which I come back to later.
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>>3068541
11 or 12 on dom oddity
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>>3068714
fucking how
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>>3068714
I love SS for meme purposes. It is better than tungsten but fucking expensive. \
Can you imagine the reaction people would have to someone running around literally wearing money?
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Was bored and I wanted to make this because I remember picking almost all the mushrooms on silent isle during my first playthrough, and being nearly beat to death. Idk if anyone else went monkeybrain during this part of the game on their first time lol
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>>3069039
>Idk if anyone else went monkeybrain during this part of the game on their first time lol
My first ever cheevo of Underrail was Shroomhead, as in I collected and even spawncamped Lake Mushrooms like a klepto, hoping I could sell them.

In my defense, I was fresh out completing a full playthrought of Fallout New Vegas and all it's DLC.
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>>3069045
>lake mushroom spawncamper
Holy shit, that's so fucking good.
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>>3069039
Honestly I have no idea how did I do it
I didn't pick them up cause I knew they were everywhere, its my guess
>>3069045
Top kek
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>>3069039
haha
seriously, what the fuck are doppelgangers and why are they you?
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>>3069165
Hateful void reflections of you, I'm not sure how to describe it, it was so long ago but I know if you're interact with the Shadowlith as a strong pure psion you will get the dialog that more or less explains it
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>>3069168
I got you
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>>3068862
by picking up oddities
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>>3069039
thats good shit
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>>3069039
this is amazing ty anon
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fucking plasma beam psibeetle just fuck me up shit on my corpse
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>>3069316
Gorsky jesus christ wtf
you can't say that
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whats the best shield to stop burrower projectiles, a low one?
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>>3070795
yes, low/low
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I know that doing the oligarchs quests locks you out of Phreaks questline, but does phreak lock you out of the oligarchs?
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>>3070834
Nope, it's best do his first if you want both
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having now played the original to lvl 29, I would have made these changes to this "do everything" build:

https://underrail.info/build/?HgUFBgMGDAnCoGIAAAAAwqBAPksAS0AfLjzCoAAAAC0ANisBOTYsKmUofkshZgUCf8K3wrtyw5zCrsKdwp7DiOKcmgbiorUC4qSsAuKvvATir70B378

not actually sure about strafe really, but since I have 5 dex anyway, why not
I use a 12.7 (for robots mainly), not a spearhead
could carry a spearhead for certain situations I guess, or just use strife with teh 12.7 and accept the small penalty
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>>3066491
>favorite boss
Oh, that's a tough one. Picking Tchort would be cheating, but.. yeah, Tchort.
>favorite setting
Deep Caverns
>favorite enemy
Another tough one. Hunchbacks, I guess.
>favorite npc
Ezra. Honorable mention goes to Six. He makes me feel real emotions. Mostly negative ones, but it still counts. Underrail wouldn't be the same without him.
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>>3070851
Dominating?
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Energy pistols are fun, I wish I tried them sooner
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>>3071139
I told you bre
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>>3070968
yes
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Anyone got any high con builds they could recommend me? Constitution and dodge/evasion are pretty much the only things I haven't touched in this game so far.
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>>3071455
Berserker hammerfag, high CON/AGI/STR with stealth, and dodgevasion
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>>3071455
>>3062128
>>3062148
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>>3071490
Is survival instincts even worth it with that much fucking health and damage resistance? How often are you ever under 30% health?
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>>3071500
not often, but if you ARE in trouble its really nice
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>ascension/lessening burden
>descent to center
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>>3071463
I am considering this for a Balor's run, but with Balor you have to stack so much STR there might not be enough points to spread around for AGI, etc. Considering a SS nimblecan to split the difference and have some defense/mobility plus megadamage from the hammer.

That and I'm torn between doing a janky hoplite build with riot shields and stuff. The idea of ironically chucking laser-tipped spears at natives is arousing.
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>>3071661
just do hammer wizard
trust me, its the best way to play a hammer
except maybe tm
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>>3071176
I like how standing around a trash fire in a can is like the most dangerous thing you can possibly do in underrail because of ambush
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>>3071686
ah, but it protects you from the dreaded cryo-magic-from-stealth
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I got to Depot A and immediately got filtered. Do you guys have any retardproof builds?
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>>3071919
stealth AR with TM is hard to fuck up
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>>3071951
How would I go about building that and what type of gear would I want?
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>>3072002
https://stygiansoftware.com/forums/index.php?topic=8957.0
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>>3072012
Won't 3 con make your character really squishy? What order would I go for feats and skills?
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>>3072023
Only if you get hit, which you shouldnt be with this build.

Feats are in order. Keep putting points into guns/throwing/stealth/locks/hacks/pickpocket/persuasion/intimidate until they are maxed out. Level TM as far as necessary to cast your early game spells, then start into crafting (I would probably focus on getting a taser, then a good rifle for depot A). Evasion and then the remaining TM points should come last in that order. If you dump hacking it will be simpler to assign points.
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What's the best gear for a SMG build?
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>>3071919
Tincan AR. DO NOT listen to the anon telling you 3 con is retard proof. The entire point of con is it gives you a cushion for making mistakes. New players make tons of mistakes, thus 3 con isn't good for you.

I'd roll with something like this:
>7 str, 3 dex, 3 agi, 10 con, 10 per, 3 will, 3 int
Alternatively, you could drop perception down to 8 and boost intelligence to 5 if you want to craft early and often. It isn't necessary, though.

Split further points between perception and get your con up to 12 for bodybuilding for even more health.
>S tier feats you want ASAP
Aimed shot, thick skull, opportunist, full-auto, suppressive fire, concentrated fire, commando.

Just know that with this build you're going to be extremely immobile, but you'll deal very good damage and will be near unkillable. Prioritize killing knife users, their attacks can fuck up your strength and make your accuracy horrible. Gun users, which are about 70% of the enemy you'll fight in this game, will barely even be able to scratch you. Use tungsten steel armor and either a hornet AR or huszar for extra crit chance.

You'll notice I didn't mention psi. Don't use that shit, it'll lower your health. Once again, anyone telling you health doesn't matter in this game is retarded. You, especially as a new player, want as much hp as possible.

Also, get stealth clothing and carry it around with you. Build/buy a cloaking device. You can sneak around when needed with a small investment in stealth + good gear buffing your numbers up. Certain quests require stealth, and stealth in general is just useful sometimes.
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>>3072164

The only thing I encountered with this build is that -The absoulte worst enemy to fight are knife fags/carnifex who abuse crippling strike on you. your chance to hit will be like 10% and can't move.
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>>3072252
That's when you grenade your own feet. But yeah, crippling strike enemies are an absolute cunt to fight as any tincan build.
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>>3072164
Thanks for the advice. When it comes to depot A are grenades and molotovs the best strategy? I barely did any damage to the mutants and dogs when using guns and would often miss.
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>>3072449
Grenades in general are the answer to pretty much any question in Underrail.

With that tincan AR build, you'll sleepwalk through Depot A. Like I said, the only enemy type you need to be worried about are enemies with crippling strike (usually knife users).

It's honestly hilarious lumbering through Depot A as a can. The main thing that gives people trouble is when the mutants glue you to the floor, which completely immobilizes you and opens your anus for them to swarm you. As a tincan, you had no mobility to begin with so what're you worried about it for? And shit, PLEASE swarm me. I'll fucking hose the lot of those muties down with full-auto, which is only going to get more accurate the closer they get. And if all else fails, I'll drop my own grenade on my own feet and laugh as it nukes everything around me and I basically take no damage because of my insane mechanical damage resistance and massive health pool.
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>>3072471
you're forgetting the gobs of acid damage that your puny 5 DT doesnt quite block
but then again I did it with a non-psi hammercan on dom once, though traps were involved
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>>3072481
>you're forgetting the gobs of acid damage that your puny 5 DT doesnt quite block
10 con laughs at you and your acid damage.
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I hate the phonebox quest
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>>3072543
good thing its optional
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>>3072543
that 15% detection bonus though
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>>3072471

If you don't know what you are doing the yell + acid effect destroys you.
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How fucked am I if I intend to do a ton of crafting but I leave my intelligence at 3?
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>>3072666
It works just fine if you speedrun the oligarch quests until you get your home with the crafting benches. Also the brainlet pills exit.
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>>3072549
>he didn't memorize the sounds
come on
it's so easy when you do

sharpest key stroke
sharp key stroke
floundering horn
regular horn
second lightest key stroke
lightest key stroke
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>>3072685
for me, is

>high ringing
>electronic ringing
>"here comes the bride"
>flat electronic
>low ringing
>low flat bass
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savescum: the game
miss me with this gay shit
if a game can't be reliably completed on a normal difficulty first try, without a single reload, it's a bad game
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>>3072736
skill issue
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Does Kneecap shot work with energy pistols
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>>3072774
pay attention to the exact wording in feats
if it says "pistols", its any pistols
if it says "firearm pistols", its just bullet-shooting ones
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>>3072576
If you don't know what you're doing literally anything can fuck you up.
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Any viable riot shield builds? I gather that spear blows, what about pistols or other melee weapons?
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>>3072858
literally all weapons are good in that you can make a good build with them and handle the game just fine
id say hammers are probably the worst

riot gear just isnt good, except in its one little niche, and even then most builds have better options
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>>3072867
>id say hammers are probably the worst
keep it pleb
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>>3072945
what weapons are hammers better than?
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>>3072947
All of them
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Give me a fun sledgehammer build
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>>3073240
Hammer Wizard
Psiless nimble can
Psiless agile berserker
Psiless tanky berserker
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>>3073240
hammer wizard is the only one imo
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>>3073281
Wrong, psilless agile zerk is arguably more fun than hammer wizard, only because you can actually move, have dodgevasion and use stealth, while still being fairly tanky
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>>3073286
but less fun than other weapons that do that, due to the inherent problems with hammers
unlike hammer wizard which bypasses them
HW has so much synergy and gets to be FUCK YOU tanky
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>>3073291
Yeah but at some point being a tin can gets boring after a while.
HW is better but zerk is more fun.
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>>3073294
you just said it; "it gets boring after a while"
so does anything if you keep doing it

if I never played either, I would say HW was more fun
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>>3073296
>so does anything if you keep doing it
No because mobility is objetively more fun than being a tin can.
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>>3073240
I've played them all, Zerker is the most fun you can have with a hammer. The combination of a big health pool and dodge/evasion make you pretty darn survivable. Just be ready to sacrifice lockpicking and hacking. You need good gear to make the build really click so crafting is a must. Dodge/evasion need to be pumped as well. You'll be really point-starved on a Zerker build.
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I don't know why, but in this game specifically I have a very hard time committing to a build. In any other RPG, I just pick what sounds fun and roll with it. I have 400 hours in this game and have only finished it once because I always wind up restarting to try something else out once whatever build I'm playing finally starts to come together.
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>What is your favorite build?
Anything Involving TC, I love the concept of thought manipulation, and the Dialogue/Lore snippets you can gather from it.

Burst/TM was beyond fun, the natives never stood a chance.

>What is your favorite spell?
Temporal Distortion for some reason, cool aesthetic and is unique enough (Buffing to ripple is also really fucking fun)

>What is your favorite unique?
The Glaive (Always enjoyed Naginata's as a Melee weapon, they look slick, and I was a Nobushi main in For honor.)

>What is your favorite music track?
Expedition main theme/Ferryman theme/Science? I think that's the name, the little beeping in the music for some reason made me like it.

>What is your favorite town?
SGS (Although, what is their currency based on? It's just paper, Charons are backed by what they're made out of, not because the "Government" says so.) That, or Port Ceto.
Aye aye, Capn'.

>What is your favorite oddity?
Fancy lighter. (Reminds me of that scene in Book of Eli where he trades some.)

>What is your favorite character sprite?
Riot armour Shield+Spear. Shit goes hard as fuck, can't wait for Infusion to see the shields change/Overcoat materials
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>>3073622
Temporal Distortion was insane in the first few days of Expedition, before Styg nerfed it. Watching those ripples was the most ridiculously beautiful thing in the game. Not the strongest, not especially fast, not even the most reliable, but damn it was fun.
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>>3073622
maybe its backed by labor, like natsoc germany money
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Will this work for a newish player?
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>>3073752
it'll work just fine
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Adding a ballistic plate to my tactical vest is a bad idea if I'm running a high speed SMG build right? The armor penalty jumps all the way to 60%.
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>>3073858
antirifle screws mobility/dodge/evasion/stealth, yes
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>>3073858
Using a tacvest in general is not advisable unless you're using a lot of psi and want the beetle carapace. Look at the specific leather and infused leather properties on the wiki. But just from you saying you're high speed, you should definitely look into hopper or siphoner leather.
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>>3073944
psi or not, a
>sturdy
>laminated/ss sheet
>psibeetle
>black
tacvest is a pretty good generalist armor
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>>3073948
Being a generalist in general is not advisable in Underrail. Can you get away with it? Sure. I'm not going to be a build autist and lecture you though, if you have fun with it then cool. I love the sprite for tacvests, but they just aren't good enough for my severe autism to justify using them. The utility leather offers is great, and the protection of metal beats out tac vests in every way.

On a side note, I really hope Styg corrects stuff like this in Infusion. There are a lot of things that are just, for lack of a better word, redundant. Like shotguns just being worse ARs, tacvests and riot armor being too bleh compared to everything else, temporal manipulation being a "fuck it why not?" skill that every build uses because there is literally no reason not to.
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Stay bloodthirsty, my friends.
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how painful would it be to play oddity mode without lockpicking or hacking
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>>3074448
Not very.
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>>3074448
they dont really do all that much for you
its not a big difference
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>got to core city for the first time
>feel like running a new build
Its the worst feeling.
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>>3074518
>it feels like the first time
>like it never will again
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>Chad tier
Any hammer build except wizard
Chem Pistols & Napalm & Gas build, AKA 'AAAAHHHH!'
Assault Rifles
Shotguns
Knives

>You're still alright by me tier
Spear
Snipers
Xbows
Pistols

>You're getting close to being gay tier
SMGs
Machete/sword

>Gay tier
Anything psi, even if it's just as a supplement.

>Flaming fag tier
Any build that throws temporal manipulation in for extra AP, bonus points if you're a glass cannon
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>>3074608
*blows kiss*
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>>3074608
>mfw faggots still getting utterly mindbroken by TM dipping
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>>3074609
Man, I've tried to like machetes/swords. I think my main problem with them is their feats are too spread out. Strength is nice for swords, but you gotta have dex for flurry and int if a must for expose weakness. Then you got ripper which is nice to have but requires will investment, and its a melee build so you at a bare minimum need sprint. I just don't like how unfocused the builds can wind up.
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>>3074608
Based and correct.
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Anyone ever make an infused rathound leather suit greater than 11% crit? Been playing for years and can't make one greater or find rathound leather higher than 52.
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>>3074608
>no fists
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>>3074741
Fists are just nature's hammers.
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>>3074736
You can get it to 12 with 180 quality supersteel and if you get lucky with booth, 13 is only possible with leatherer feat so not worth it.
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>>3074795
Cool, always wondered about that
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Any weebs lurking? How's my sword build looking? And before you start, 10 con is non-negotiable for me.
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>>3074935
don't get survival skills and we're good
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>>3074988
Survival instincts you mean? I don't intend on being a glass cannon if that's what you're thinking. I want to be Jason Voorhees basically. My main worry is I won't do enough damage.
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>>3075005
that
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I hate C*ral so fucking much
ZASTO SI DODAO TU CIGANKU BRE?
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>>3074642
I go
5 str
15 dex
13 agi
3 will
6 int

and my build is perfect; can't improve on it
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>>3075165
>non-strength focused sword build
>perfect
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>>3075182
it does alright
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>>3075203
Haha I saw your build posted on the underrail forums
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>>3075248
its my favorite; most fun ive ever had
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>>3075249
do you even need all of those drugs
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>>3075263
do you need a seatbelt in your car? a lock on your door?
no, until you do
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>>3075268
when the fuck are you going to need 3 extra perception for finding secret areas in a fight?
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>>3075270
scrubs always forget that third eye does more than help with secrets
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threads about to die, dumping a bit
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>>3063998
Definitely Harthor, but maybe that’s because I’m a melee fag. The weapon is always great quality for just after depot A and the rat king armor is also great.
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>Fav build
been enjoying my PK/MT build with EW practically can kill Industrial robots without even using EW by maxing shattering
>Fav spell
Induction and destabilization for the unique death
>Fav unique
javelins since the 1ap throws are quite fun with TM reducing cooldowns same thing for fist and shield bashing for tranq builds
>Fav music track
grey army base
>Fav town
Foundry for loot and quests
>Fav oddity
three-eye-skull, description is how I feel when I'm able to one-shot the final boss on dominating
>Fav sprite
bison's with their therapeutic mooing



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