What is your favorite build?What is your favorite spell?What is your favorite unique?What is your favorite music track?What is your favorite town?What is your favorite oddity?What is your favorite character sprite?
trying to figure out what to ruin next, styg?
>>3054727no, I know exactly what I'm going to nerf next
favorite piece of dialogue
>>3054784poor yogi, gonna miss em
>>3054727Kek, good post to start the thread
>Want to make melee build>Hear the DLC is fucking hell for melee I've only finished the game once, how fucked am I in Expedition if I do decide to go through with this
>>3054878do you have throwing?any psi schools?versatility?stealth?Yes? You'll be fine.
>>3054890I'll have throwing and stealth. I don't like psi and I don't want versatility.
>>3054725>What is your favorite build?Tm sword>What is your favorite spell?electrokinesis>What is your favorite unique?red dragon>What is your favorite music track?final boss>What is your favorite town?foundry>What is your favorite oddity?lemurian chevrons>What is your favorite character sprite?leper overcoat
>>3054725>What is your favorite build?Pre PSI nerf metathermics/sniper was pretty fun. The way thermodynamic destabilization scales now, it's just no longer viable without investing into will. >What is your favorite spell?Plasma beam. Been meaning to try the Cyclops build, but on my last playthrough I've never even seen the helmet. I'll prolly end up savescumming after Depot A.>What is your favorite unique?lmao>What is your favorite music track?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_6qQ2hfYjrs>What is your favorite town?Expedition camp.>What is your favorite oddity?Čutura.>What is your favorite character sprite?picrel
>>3054784Based Biocorp, ass fetishist, technocrat.
>>3054878If I could do it with fists, you could do it with literally any weapon.
He attacked me. What is this I attacked him shit? Come on, Styg.
>>3055401It never even began.
>>3055423Let me guess, empowered TC?
>>3055424A bit more than that.
>>3055425>Psionic tranceiverI never thought about using this. Didn't know he boosted it. Really cool detail. Wonder if you get any special dialogue for it.
>>3055425how could you pick that portraitit's the worst female portraityou look high af on motion
>>3055426>Didn't know he boosted itTchort isn't a psionic entity in terms of game mechanics. I got that much from scanners and tentacles.>Wonder if you get any special dialogue for itNah, you don't.>>3055428Looks fine to me. I like portraits with fully or partially covered faces and that one's good enough.>you look high af on motionKek, I should've hit that shit before dealing the final blow.
>>3055432Oh, well that's disappointing. Styg really needs more flavor text involving skills and psionics.
>>3054725>What is your favorite build?Fist>What is your favorite spell?force emission>What is your favorite unique?Fists if they count otherwise the claw>What is your favorite music track?grey army>What is your favorite town?core city>What is your favorite oddity?beasts head>What is your favorite character sprite?rathound regalia
If I want to make a shotgun build, what's the best direction to go?
>>3055653tincan with a sniper on the side
>>3055425oh shit, the TENTACLES!!!I forgot they're psionic; thats neat
>>3055511>beasts headthats not an oddityits a scale
>>3055653mobile pump shotty with good agi
>>3055425you really get more damage from all-in than from pickled shrooms?
>>3054878Melee can be simple or as complicated as you want it to be. An unoptimized knife guy with all his stats in agility, dex, and con performs perfectly well in normal difficulty and probably hard too if you at least optimize perks (from the selection you have with those stats, i.e. not having the crit perks). He gets tons of attacks per turn, can throw grenades, set all the traps, and pick all the locks. That's more than enough for a playthrough.
>Looking into shotgun build>Tons of conflicting info, people saying perfect scattering is good, others saying it sucks ass>People saying fragmented chaos is broken and doesn't work as Styg intended>Barrel stare sucks, or is very goodI hate how autistic this game's playerbase is
>>3055855The only truly autistic thing is hunting for the perfect build guide instead of just playing the game and having fun.
>>3055855its not autistic, its just that most people are tards tards dont know or care that they're tards, so they confidently spout their opinions as if they were smart
Does joining the pirates lock you out of some of the facilities?
>>3055855>using shotguns over ARsThey're retarded by default.
any fun first timer builds?
>>3055958here's a good simple one that starts strong and stays strong, easy to play, easy to build
>>3055855>Perfect ScatteringMost builds skip this suggesting the math on it is subpar.>fragmented chaos Good, but "supplemental". take late. Doesn't work with Critical Power (also mediocre).>Barrel stare It's optional if you're not planning a glass cannon, but favored on most forum builds. The extra damage for 1 on 1 skirmishes is pretty good, no?I think the gist of shotguns is... they're boring, just like ARs. They're good for versatility builds. Just take the damage multiplier per stack, and move on to other perks to make your gameplay more interesting. At the end of the day you'll still be playing yet another mindless TM glass cannon.
>>3055947Shotguns are better on non-can builds just because you don't have a move and shoot penalty.
>>3055998nah, mobile AR + TM is the best build in the entire gamethe 5% move'n'scoot aint shit
Anons please give me a build which has:>enough WILL to pass all lore skill checks>hyrbid psi + anything else in any capacity
>>3056003https://underrail.info/build/?HgUFBgMGDgfCoEoAAADCoCRHPksARUkKNETCoADCoAAyAAArATkoLCplNiQhS35mBQpywrfCu8Ocw4jCrsKdwp7ioqMB4qK1AuKjiAXipKwC4q-8BOKvvQHfvwthis build can do everything and see all lore, except minor shit from intimidateBUTyou can drop a few points into intimidate and use all the intimidate boost items to pass any of the checks if you metagame
>>3056003You can't pass all lore skill checks without full wizard.>WillYou'd have to import your save from older version.
>>3056005>>3056003shit, thats an older versionuse this onehttps://underrail.info/build/?HgUFBgMGDAnCoEoAAADCoCRAPksAPUAKLjzCoADCoAA3AAArATk2LCplKH4hS2YKBSRywrfCu8Ocwq7CncKew4jioqMB4qK1AuKjiAXipKwC4q-8BOKvvQHfvw
>>3056007thats not true
>>3056013What's the name of this abomination. It looks horribly full of min-maxing.
>>3056020thats because it isfine-tuned skill and ability points
>>3056021What's the name of the guide? It just looks like a horrible experience for someone who wants to play with persuasion and pickpocketing. The low Stealth sucks ass.
>>3056023he asked for something specific and I gave itif you don't like it dont use it
>>3056024it's a guns / MT hybrid with crowd control and no TM. where's the guide how to play this shiz
>>3056027no refunds, brainlet
>>3056030give a level 12 skill distribution
>>3055958This is a fun build that is pretty flexible and new-player friendly. The entire idea behind it is you'll be able to sneak, you'll have a little bit of health to help you if you make mistakes in fights (which you will), and you'll have TONS of combat control utility with grenades and suppressive fire. I only built up to level 10, reason being because (A) that is the meat of the build and (B) the rest of the way you can really decide what direction you want to go. I would highly recommend looking out for the feat 'Commando', it pairs very well with this build and is very strong. Beyond that, if you want to go more into crafting, by all means go for it. I'd put my additional attribute points into dex and perception if I were you. Perception obviously increases your accuracy, dex will let you get extremely low cost shots off with submachine guns. Forgot to mention, between sprint and tabi boots when you find them you'll be pretty mobile as well.
>>3056037have fun, anonim playing it right now myself
>>3056037Are you fucking kidding me, he gave you a sniper build with low perception and a bunch of shit in it. why are you thanking him?
laser pistol > chemical pistol > fist > knife > sniper > assault rifle > SMG > Full wizard > spear > hammer > shotgun > crossbow > firearm pistol > throwing knife
>>3056041assault rifle > full wizard > smg/shotty/firearm pistol > fist/knife (not sure) > laser pistol > SWORD > crossbow > chemical pistol > sniper > spear > throwing knife > hammer
Any non-tincan AR builds? Prefer to not use psi
>>3056044>sniper that lowBre, it's like you don't like zoning out 11 targets in a single turn.Also yeah I forgot about sword, probably before or behind spear.
>>3056040>anon does what I asked him to do>NOOOOOO YOU CANT DO THATDo you have a better build to recommend? I want a psi hybrid with max WILL of course it will be shit.
>>3056045this was an n16/spec ops build; its better if you craft your own stuff
>>3056049you know the guy that did the crowbar run? his favorite build is a sniperhe says sniper is the worst gun
>>3055783I'm not entirely sure. I never tested it with this particular run but from previous benchmarks, base damage (All-in) gave somewhat better damage numbers than crit damage (pickled shrooms).
>>3056053I played my own build and it was pretty amazing.Some people just don't know what they are doing and then call thing bad.
>>3056056he's the best underrail player ive seen, he knows exactly what he's doingyou're focused on first turn alpha strikes, while ignoring that other guns are also very strong but also more versatile and not as reliant on luckbesides, 11 kills (maybe if you're using every AP boost available) is nice, but other guns can do that and more
>>3056050Yes, you can make a MT/TM build with grenades and Last Stand that's viable for Dom. Simple and effective. You just have to import a level 1 character from the old version for it to be Will based.https://underrail.info/build/?HgMHAwkDDQgAwqAAAAAAwohQTABBSWVQQ1AAAMKgRi8AVcK_UGIrLBYqZcK9ZsKEH8KHPcKIPnpywrdtwp7CncKuw4ds4qOJCuKrpQXfvw
>>3056053>he says sniper is the worst gunTo be fair what's the point of snipers (range + big damage) if range is a joke and you can one-shot almost everything with a laser pistol?
>>3056069exactlyyou can even do dex vers and get very low AP costs
>>3056069It matters in the expansion with its large open areas that sometimes have impassable canals inbetween.
>>3056051I'm confused... Why the hell is his strength 10?
>>3056003Full psi. Underrail is a psi game first and foremost and always has been
>>3054725>What is your favorite build?Full tranquility psi, pre-Expedition.>What is your favorite spell?Exothermic Aura>What is your favorite unique?Phase Gun>What is your favorite music track?Drop Zone>What is your favorite town?SGS>What is your favorite oddity?Thing in a Jar>What is your favorite character sprite?Rassophore
New player here. What exactly is the difference between smgs and assault rifles? It seems like they share tons of feats except smgs are just better. Am I wrong?
>>3056119Bullet speed, which penetrates armor much more effectively. All SMGs are medium speed. And have inferior range. Then again, once you get to crits, these differences may be nullified.
>>3056119smgs spit out more bullets which do less damage, basicallyyou need to be closer to have good accuracy, they have a harder time against armor, you need more bullets and more repair kits, and more dexterity to get the cheapest attack costsARs have range and more damage per bullet, and the concentrated fire feat which basically gives them even more damagesmgs can spit out more damage per turn, but its more conditionalARs are superior, but its like being mega OP vs just being super OP
>>3056119you use a shit ton more repair kits with a smg
Ok bros, I'm going to do an assault rifle build for my first playthrough. Looked up tincan gameplay and don't really like what I see. I've played a few crpgs before so I think I'll be fine to freestyle my own build. This look good?
>>3056155I'll give you some strong hints.>Traps and grenades are your answer to all your problems. Kind of like a skip button really.>Look up the feats section, click on all. Search for any feat you like, and prepare for themThe rest should be obvious as long as you didn't go full retard with a 1st run dominating
>>3054725>What is your favorite build?Chem pistol>What is your favorite spell?Psycho-temporal Contraction>What is your favorite unique?Rathound Regalia>What is your favorite music track?Mutagen Tanks>What is your favorite town?Core City>What is your favorite oddity?Broken Motion Detector>What is your favorite character sprite?Chemical Assault Unit
Haven't played this game in ages so I don't really remember what's good and what's not. Is an agile spear character who's all in on dodge+evasion a good idea on hard? Would also be dipping into some psi stuff because I ignored magic in my other playthrough.
>>3055855Barrel stare is okay for bosses I guess, its condition is mutually exclusive with leading shot but you can taser the boss and not have to deal with evasion. For everyone else the damage is not worth getting into melee range and dealing with evasion.
>>3056041>epistols not the lowest of the guns but instead on top of everything>fist over knife when unarmed has a much shittier power curve and gloves are just knife-lite>full psi somehow not in top 5>any melee weapons at all besides maybe knife over ranged weapons (except for xbow it sucks cock)>firearm pistols UNDER XBOWS when it's around knife level>no grenades mentioned when they're top 3Massive bait.>>3056044Decent ranking except for sniper being so low and hammer being lower than throwing knives.>>3056053>sniper is the worst gunWhen energy pistols exist?>electroshock would be fine except it has no range and it needs aimed shot to reliably kill more than the first enemy, plasma pistol is the designated boss killer, so laser pistol is your only workhorse>need 14 dex so your laser pistol can actually fire as much as sniper can comfortably achieve with a feat and a weapon mod while having twice the range>need 9 con for SI so you can actually reliably oneshot NPCs with your peashooter>need 7 int at least for a bit of base damage + crit damage>don't have many points for per leftover so your natural accuracy will be in the dumps and you'll have to overcompensate with CC throwables, just play a grenade build>if you dump int for per on the one build that has to get perhaps the most effective electronics around then crafting will be an absolute pain in the assMeanwhile sniper just gets 5 str maxes per if they want and gets three feats and hits everything besides some number bloated Dom bosses. You want to start oneshotting high HP NPCs without aimed shot too? You can get SI if you want, or branch out into some psi for utility instead. And you don't need to craft a new weapon every 20 quality jump for an extra 1 base damage.>>3056119ARs are much higher base damage and can equip scopes for either more crit chance or more crit damage. They also have better effective range so you can fire from further away. SMGs are less committed to one burst though.
>>3056391Laser pistol built around crits will deal 800-900 dmg without any conditions or special shots, which is enough to 1 shot anything but bosses on dominating for 15 AP (or less if you go more dex). It has also a precision bonus and big range for a handgun.Fist is better than knife because you can get them down to 4 AP which will proc all those sweet feats like taste for blood and cheap shots more often. Also combo, which can stun ontop of dealing massive extra dmg.
What do you think about this sniper?https://underrail.info/build/?HgQFCgkMAwPCoCMAAAB9wqBkVQAAwpvCggAUeAAAAEsAFF8rMWI5ATUCf35LRxkzRMKHwrXCpMKm4qCKA-KnlgXip5cD4q-8A-KvvQHfvwGonna stick with rathound regalia for the entire game for the +1 STR
>>3054878the DLC is hellish for everything that isn't Psi so you'll need to learn to cope anywayIIRC the melee jet skill is free
>>3056367Depends on what psi stuff you run. TM is generally the "fuck it" psi path that people use, especially for melee builds. Prob don't need me to tell you this but dodge & evasion require heavy investment to be worth it and they kill a lot of your crafting options.
Attacking a man in melee? Foolishness, woman. Strages rides rivers of red once more because I beat DOMINATING with him before the Tchort buff
Help a nigga who has only ever done a pure psi build make a gun build. Had a few questions:1. Does crit chance behave normally with burst/full-auto, or is there some special rule? For example, if my crit chance is 35%, does that mean its only 35% on single normal shots or does it remain 35% for each shot fired in burst/full-auto? 2. Is strafe worth taking on an assault rifle or sniper build? AR/sniper are the main things I am looking at right now.3. How much perception is actually necessary? From what I have read, people seem to act like you're fucked on any guns build if you're not pumping perception all the way.
>>3056702Works normallyNopeIf you want hit things that are far away, you want it high
>>3056702depends on difficultyif dom you want 12+anything else you can get away with under that
>>3056703Strafe is definitely worth it on sniper rifles. Being able to run around all you want and still have perfect accuracy on spearhead is really good. It also means you don't have to care about those situations where los fucks up so you can see an enemy but the game still insists you move 1% of a tile before it lets you shoot them, because fuck those are frustrating without strafe.
>>3056702Yes, crit calculates for each individual shot in a burst.Strafe is only worth it on sniper and xbow.Depends on the gun. Burst guns can go as low as 8 on Dom due to how many attacks they inflict. Shotguns around there too since you have a feat that ignores a huge chunk of evasion. Sniper/xbow you definitely want over 10, any kind of pistol you want around 10 or more if you can. Keep in mind I'm just mentioning the minimum required to max hit chance on common enemies, since it fluctuates depending on your range.>>3056732Agreed on the weird tile fuckery where somehow an enemy can shoot at you but somehow you can't fire back without moving. It's really annoying and has cost me many a reload.
>>3056732>>3056785I always wondered how that happens.You can't move half a tile, so how is that even possible?Especially annyoing if you are trapped in a net or acid blob.
>>3056795it's the same way enemies can see and shoot a tile further than you
>reach DC elevator>go do expedition>reach Nexus of Technology>reroll with a new buildI have never even reached DC and I've been playing since 1.0Help
Is it wise to take 3 intelligence if I intend to go heavy on crafting? From what I've seen the crafting feats are pretty negligible.
>>3056814You can boost your crafting skills by 15% in your core city home if you buy all the work benches and eat Joe's special for additionally +5 for all skills.
>>3056806Expeditions is worth finishing. Deep Caverns is worth it once. I'll never subject myself to Deep Caverns again.
Disciplining women the proper way.Let's go meet your new husband
>>3056840Make sure to tell him the joke
>>3056842I am playing a gigachad madlad who kills abominations with his bare fists.
>>3056662is there some shit happening offscreen because i don't remember her being nearly that squishy on dom
>>3056859She can take quite a beating on dom, looks like he's on hard
>>3056863okay yeah that makes a lot more sense, i remember her spawning with a shock tungsten knife once and gutting both turrets without even breaking a sweat
>>3056842>>3056848There can only be one king, and he isn't a faggot who hides behind his pets.>>3056859>>3056863I loaded a save I took while I had her incapacitated.
>>3056886Just realized i've never actually fought the rathound king I always cheese him with magnesium grenades and bear traps
Your sex slaves belong to me now.
>>3056702you shouldnt play xbow or sniper without strafeARs dont need it; that 5% is nothing
>>3056957Did you pickpocket his crossbow?
>>3056970you cant pickpocket an equipped weapon or utilities afaik, but you can pickpocket regular boltssince xbows dont have loaded ammo like guns, if you steal the bolts they can't shoot (except for equipped special bolts)then I hit him with mental breakdown to keep him from going before his rats so they block the door
Throwing knives are shit! SHIT!
>>3056985I still don't understand how their crit works.
>>3056985They're pretty "memeish", but you have throwing, three pointer and crafting, so you already won the game.
Energy pistol or firearms pistol
>>3057027Energy is stronger.
>>3057027Both are great fun, but I like that you can play with unique firearm pistols never putting a single point into crafting and still make it to the end.
Do you always play dominating anon?
>>3057038Yes.But my first two runs was on hard because Dominating didn't exist yet.
>>3056987me eitherdoes anything boost it at all? flat dex stat? death's grin maybe? what about crit damage? it's a fucking mystery and the wiki has nothing to say
>>3057040Ripper definitely works.I have Crit Power too but not sure if it works.
>>3057041oh huh, so it does>will 5 reeeeeeee
>>3057030>>3057031any recommendations on a build?
>>3054725>What is your favorite build?Spear + psi (either PK or MT)>What is your favorite spell?Probably cryo orb or TK punch>What is your favorite unique?>bieretta (with versatility + expertise build)>What is your favorite music track?The tribal invasion one>What is your favorite town?I like ‘em all but I always go to Camp harthor first for the solid weapon you get at the end>What is your favorite oddity?No opinion.>What is your favorite character sprite?Sea wyrm overcoat
>>3056814It's doable but your final gear will come later than normal. You'll also have to put more points into crafting than if you had taken intelligence.>>3057027Firearm because better AP economy and you have Bullet Time.>>3057038Yes.
>>3054725>What is your favorite build?Probably critical focused AR with 10 agility. Not the best build and I haven't seen/heard anyone else do it. But I enjoyed it quite a bit. >What is your favorite spell?Over 300 hours in the game and have literally never made a psi build kek>What is your favorite unique?M16, don't remember what they call it in game.>What is your favorite music track?Drop-Zone. That was actually the moment I fell in love with the game.>What is your favorite town?Core City.>What is your favorite oddity?The pip-boy in Junkyard.>What is your favorite character sprite?Riot armor. Shame it fucking sucks.
In my last 5 games I have gotten the scout bot quest. What the fuck is going on? I remember back in the day I'd get the body getting brought in pretty regularly. Did >Styg change the dynamic opener quest probability or something?
I also like drop zone, but its not my fav
>>3057156i've grown to hate a good chunk of expedition music because of tedious dungeons
>See build idea that peaks interest on forums>First thing I see is psi empathyI hate how fags shoehorn their dumb magic everywhere. Especially temporal manipulation.
>>3057578Literally no reason to not pick it unless you want to gimp yourself on purpose for some fake feeling of superiority.
he so smol
The missing train isn't here.
>>3057578Its their cheat code, babies can't handle the game without it.
>>3057635Let me guess, you need grenadier and throwing and traps every single playthrough too? Lmao. I have over 300 hours in this game and never play psi. Can prove it with achievements. Closest I came was fucking around with temporal manipulation up to like level 8, where I realized it was fag shit and dropped it like a bad habit. Real men only need a fucking gun, big ass hammer, or a knife/spear.
>>3057743Case in point.
>>3057749Pathetic. I really hope Styg finds a way to make TM not able to be shoved into whatever build with pretty much no downsides in Infusion. That little health penalty is nowhere near enough to be able to milk free actions because you're too much of a dumbfuck to kill without it or position yourself to be untouchable. People talk about how strong grenades and traps are, and don't get me wrong, they are. But TM is rarely mentioned in that convo. It's just as much of a fucking crutch.
>>3057755Whatever you say, discord troon.
Holy shit.The Praetorians are fucking trash
>>3057788Industrial bots are just too god-tierThey even have quite high crit resistance.
>>3057791He took the sniper's aimed shot like it was a 5mm
My fists just hurt too much
>>3057815then you would be brutalizer, baby arms
HERE WE GOOOOOOOhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OxNeZiOr_zs&ab_channel=MYFIRSTSTORY-Topic
I know you lurk, Styg. I have an idea for Infusion which you better listen to.Certain merchants should have a "special order" function where the player can specially order certain items, particularly crafting components, and be able to set a range for the level of quality the item will come in. For example>I want to order a Marauder assault rifle frame, quality between 99-120The kick is, you overpay for special orders. By a lot. Ideally like 3-4x what it would cost just by finding it in a vendor's shop by chance. It'd also take a little while to arrive, similarly to how super steel takes a minute to forge.
>>3057870Faster than you but you're more durable than me. Let's finish this.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VznpUInj7dg&ab_channel=RafifDewantara
>>3057875Your fists were slowed by your gloves. Even if you killed me, you would die from shock. It was an honor to fight someone else who saw the weakness of weapons. I will remember you forever. Rest now, Carnifex.
>>3057873this has been suggested already, more than once
stack dex or perception for energy pistol
>pure knife dex build with no psi>got the mushroom cove scavenger robot eventwish me luck
>Want to do chemical pistol geneva conventions violator build>All the ones I find on forums use versatilityI'm still pretty new but am I missing something? Is it not possible to make a non-versatility chemical pistols build?
>>3058074it is, its just not as optimalyou'll want to split points between dex and perwith enough in int for feats
Fix the fucking Shock Shurikens. They should scale mechanical damage just like Throwing Knives.Also 30 per stack is cancer. They should stack like special bolts for crossbows.Having more feats for critical chance with throwing knives would be nice. Making three-pointer work with them would make throwing knifes build actually fun, strong and playable.
>>3058074Possible? Sure, but versatility is beyond broken so every tryhard build uses it.
>>3058078>>3058088Would this work? I'd split all my additional points I get into levelling between perception and dexterity. I really have no idea what I am doing, only ever done a metal armor assault rifle build before this.
>>3058104yep, that looks fineyou'll want your dex at a point that lowers the ap cost from chempistols to a certain amounthttps://www.stygiansoftware.com/wiki/index.php?title=Dexterityopen the horizontal chart I don't remember what score people usually pick, but for 1st level you're good to go
>>3058107>open the horizontal chartNo clue what I am looking at. Hopefully 14 dex is enough because that's what I am shooting for.
Aww. He was a good punching bag.
>>3058134*Can You Feel My Heart playing in the distance*
>>3058117if you aren't playing on dominating chemical pistols just deal with everything really easily and I wouldn't worry too muchthe biggest problem you will have is your survivability
>>3058138even on dominating, chemical pistols destroy everything save nagas
>>3058143I assume versatility is op because of special crossbow boltsthe idea of needing it seems strange
>>3058146Versatility is OP because acid entrapment counts for deadly snares, which turns all your attacks into crits.
I liked the other punching bag better.
Returning player here, played 2 years ago and did a pure psi build. Forgot what exactly, not that it matters. I want to do a pure guns build now and I settled on full auto shotgun. Would something like pic rel work?
>>3058177>9 agilityfor what purpose
>>3058180Bump to 10 on my first level for blitz. Then I'll probably get perception to 10. I've read perception isn't as necessary on shotty builds though because you're so close most of the time.
>>3058183my build had 8 str and 6 agiI don't know what you need 7 str for and I can't figure it out on my ownI wonder if I have too much of a tendency to max my damage stat
>>3058136life in literal hell and she won't suck a cock for some coin. top lel
>>3058191>I don't know what you need 7 str for and I can't figure it out on my ownFull-Auto
>>3058177whats the dex for leading shot? if its 5 thats goodlooks good; get agi to 10 like you said and put the rest in per
Oh please.There really should be a line about how you're tearing him apart with your bare hands
any anons that can share some tips for dominating difficulty
>>3058235Realistically your build will suck ass until 15+ Abuse bear traps, gas grenades and caltrops.
>>3057743>>3057755>I don't play builds like this because they're too easy so no one else should even though it's more content and replayabilityWhat a baiting retard you are.>I have 300 hours in this gameCute that you think that's worth bragging about. Hours don't matter for one's argument anyway.>>3058177Looks good, keep in mind Blitz will pretty much only give you an extra attack every 10 turns though. Don't forget you can get a Tyranny to burst 5 shells and you can use the full damage boost for a Vindicator attack the next turn, or the same turn if you pop Adrenaline/Blitz.>>3058235Other anon has it about right, most builds have some sort of power spike that makes fights much less of a headache, only some like knife can cheese a high quality weapon at level 1 and trivialize the early and mid game. So use traps and gas nades in those hard fights. EMPs for robots, etc.Abuse doors on mobs that can't open them, like most animals. Breaking line of sight with turrets also dunks on them if you have a ranged weapon or enough MP.Craft a taser ASAP, most early fights are only a couple NPCs if not a single one.You can go to junkyard as soon as you start the playthrough, enter the casino, and get a ton of XP and charons off killing that one scrapper dude for a later quest.
>>3058235figuring out the order in which you do quests/areas post-depot A is the most essential component of not having a bad timeembrace cheese in all forms until you get comfortable enough to live without itcrafting, consumables, drugs, traps, throwables, and food are now a lot more than just optional shit so use'em
>>3058252>keep in mind Blitz will pretty much only give you an extra attack every 10 turns thoughan extra 20 ap during your alpha strike can make all the difference for an entire fight
>>3058235Everyone has higher dodge/evade so things that reduce/ignore those are all more useful than on lower difficulties. Incaps or roots or stuns or ambush or leading shot or whatever. Don't forget about them.High evasion also means damage grenades are less effective so you can't rely on them as much either.
>>3058252>Looks good, keep in mind Blitz will pretty much only give you an extra attack every 10 turns thoughDo you mean the cooldown or is there some obscure shit I am not aware of? Either way my main idea for taking blitz was to activate sprint, adrenaline, anything I have to give me extra movement points in a pinch to convert them all to action points. Ideally, that'd let me spray as many shells as I need to get through the encounter. That's all just my theory, I'm only experienced in metathermics and temp manipulation.
>>3056555X key to swap weapons
>>3058293adrenaline doesnt give extra move pointsand yes he means the cooldown
The protectorate isn't sending us their best
>>3058490never understood why styg hid their unique names unless you were on the protectorate's side.
I can play a pistol build on dominating without going versatile and still be fine right
>>3058513Maybe they were initially mooks, and got turned into characters later on
This was painful without endgame gear
I just realized I specced into the wrong featcan i fix this in cheat engine? my last save before is fucking forever ago
>>3058732just add it from the console
>>3058744In Documents\My Games\Underrail create a new file called customConfig.xml and in it put<PropertyCollection xmlns:xsd="http://www.w3.org/2001/XMLSchema" xmlns:xsi="http://www.w3.org/2001/XMLSchema-instance"> <Property Name="AllowConsole"> <Value xsi:type="xsd:boolean">true</Value> </Property></PropertyCollection>Then in game it's the ~ (tilde) key just like every other game's console. Type listcommands to see all the commands. there should be one like playeraddperk and then the name of the perk will be like !sprint or something. it will pop up though it's not hard to navigate.
>>3058746yeah, i don't see anything relating to spec points
>>3058766We're talking about a feat that you accidently didn't spec into right? You can add the ability via playergiveSpecialability <skillhere> without the <>'s. It won't appear in your feat list but you'll get the skill to use it.
should I dump agility for more dex / int. planning to play energy pistols with a tiny bit of Psychokinesis just for the stuns
>>3058855Depends on what kind of energy pistols build you want. If you're using high technicalities you want pretty high int because it scales your damage. I did a 3 int energy pistol build once just because I thought the idea of a retard who happened to stumble upon a very advanced weapon and dominate with it was funny.
>Start game with X build>Make it through Depot A>This is fun, I'll try a different build now>Start game with Y build>Make it through Depot A>This is fun, I'll try a different build nowI've only ever actually finished this game once. I'll probably never finish it again.
>>3059004Funny, depot A is when things actually start happeningYou are just going through the first zone over and overThe only game where I kinda did that was DOS2
Are carrier vests actually worth using by themselves? They seem kind of shitty. Seems like the way to go is either leather or metal
>>3059038you mean tactical vestsyes, they're a good generalist armor, and probably the best for psifags due to beetle carapacesyou're right that leather and metal are better in most ways
can I still stealth around on dominating with 3 agility if i've got high enough stealth gear
Damn man it is so hard to make an optimized spear and shield build. >Need armor sloping to reduce penalty (6 int)>Need iron grip, and early too because you can get armor as soon as Junkyard (11 str)>Need at a bare minimum sprint (6 agi)Now my throwing is going to be shit. I was aiming to have spear throw as well just because it'd be nice to have but I don't see any way that is happening between how hard I have to pump strength and needing to get another point in intelligence for armor sloping.
>>3059403Getting stealth bonus with gear is pretty easy if you can craft so I guess it could work against things that are not deathstalkers. There's the stealth field emitter too.Never played with anything like than 6 AGI myself.
Every game I seem to get harlan and his robot. I dont remember the last time I went to the water treatment plant
>>3059583Same.Feels like it's a 90% chance to get him.
>>3059583same here but then every tiime i want to complain about it i remember the water treatment version with the turrets and electrified floorswhat possessed styg to have instakill floor sections that activate in real time while you're still in turnbased combat?that gauntlet room is also pure fucking cancer
>>3059593>floor sections that activate in real timeThey don't, it's just that their turns are very long and you are forced to exist turn based mode after 1 turn.Same thing in the garbage facility and phreaks hideout, if you got a lot of MP you can totally make it in turn based.
I fucking hate psi beetles
There can only be one.
>>3059844>psionic>sniper>rathound kingyeah, no
>>3059918It's his cooler brother who embraces technology and enhanced brain capacity.He also got cool shades.
>>3059844ha, we're even using the same gun
>>3059943It's great for killing spree, two free kills
Bros, I am making a riot shield spear build and I am torn between 6 intelligence for armor sloping or 5 dex for spear throwing. I can't have both since I'm going all in on strength and con on top of that
>>3059966I built one a long time ago but never played ithttps://underrail.info/build/?HhAGBgcDAwUAwqAAwqAAABRzTE0AaG5QXFkAAAAAdABRJsKCwpXCrwYSwqzClMKqwpPCq0vCtjlVCC_in4QB4qKMA-KzogPitrYD4remBd-_
What level do you start putting points into your other crafting skills
>>3060342Crafting is literally all in the wikiYou shouldn't put 1 point into it unless you want to trial and error everything (which is fine for electronics)
no leveling a stat above 10 challenge?
Is there any point in using daggers?
>>3060886higher crit chance
>>3060889Doesn't seem to be worth lowering the bottom damage range for it, it's only a few %.A serrated knife seems to be superior in every way.But I wonder how this 25% extra damage that passes armor plays out.
>>3060892the 25% makes up for the bottom damage range, plus you'll most likely only be using it on targets who have expose on them making it extremely situational. better just to run kukri and a combat knife
>>3060897>the 25% makes up for the bottom damage rangeBut then again with vile weaponry and taste for blood a serrated knife can stack up way more damage modifiers.Also higher crit damage which gets doubled by critical power.Yeah kukri is a must for spammable expose weakness.
>>3060886I dont know for a fact, but by my math they do the most damage to organic targetsserrated = tfb stacking (but uniques are better)combat = for robotsdagger = everything else
I'm torn between making a shield and spear spartan build or survival instincts knife for my first melee run. Both sound very fun
>>3060935shield and spear is a hard run; it sucks against anything that isnt mechanical meleeknives are a very solid optioneverytime I play a knifer I have a real easy time, but ive never done SI, just 10 agi ones
>>3060935Shield and spear is the worst spear variant and is inferior in every way to a SS can. SI knife on the other hand demolishes the game, especially if you kill Mordre early on for his knife, with a gas nade so SGS doesn't get buttmad that you killed a bigger asshole than even Bret.
>>3059484Spear + shield just kinda sucks sadly. EXTREMELY feat-intensive and doesn't even do that much damage. You absolutely cannot make a psi hybrid out of it either unless you're a 3 Will TM gamer, you just don't have the stats to spare for it. If you want, drop Constitution to 5, put 3 of those points in DX and the last one in IN for armor sloping. That's much more functional.
>>3060935If you want an actually GOOD spear build, go with this. https://underrail.info/build/?AQoIBgUDAwUADwAPDw8AAAAAAA8ADwAPAAAAAAAADyQ5378Main goal is to get tabi boots by the time you do Depot A, run super fucking fast and chuck javelins (crafted spears later once Javelin damage starts to fall off) at shit until they die. Endgame would look something like this:https://underrail.info/build/?Hg4KBgUDAwUAwqAAwqDCoMKgAAAAAAB4Umh1eAAAAAAAAGEkOS_ClRYSwpQ-wqwNGuKfhAHipbwB4rOiA-KzowrfvwIf you want it to be even more fun, drop Dodge and put those points in Intimidation and get Yell. The build is so light on Feats you can basically do anything your stats will support. Traps, sneak, etc. Also the exact numbers on the crafting skills aren't accurate they can be whatever arbitrary amount you'll need to craft your endgame stuff with the workbench in your house. You don't really need much just a good set of Super Steel armor, a bunch of good spears, Mark V nades, NIGHT VISION GOGGLES ARE ABSOLUTELY ESSENTIAL YOU WILL NEED THESE, and as good an energy shield as you can make. Highlights of the gameplay with this was me kiting all of the Ironheads to death chucking like 15 javelins I had in my inventory at them and running away faster than they could ever catch me, including Balor. The damage it does at longer ranges is fucking absurd and with DX as high as it is you'll have very very good accuracy with your spears. The damage output would be objectively higher than snipers if Throw Spear had no cooldown.
>>3060987Forgot the associated image, also the build needs 6 IN not 5, so deduct that from DX probably.
>>3060935>first melee runPure fist or STR sword.Anything else first is for sissies
does anyone have a chainsaw build? not sure if a normal str sword build would work for it or if i need some special feats
>>3059484What I have found about spear and shield builds are they are OK at best. Certainly fun, though. The issue is, you really gotta time your feats well and you're very dependent upon your gear. I didn't feel like my build had it's sea legs until I finally managed, through sheer RNG, to get riot armor that was exactly at 50% penalty so that I could maximize my resistances and health through juggernaut, but also maintain some mobility. Armor sloping is an absolute must on any shield build imo, because riot armor honestly just fucking sucks and you really need to fluff your resistances up any way you can. Even then, all you can manage to be is still worse than any metal armor set. The shield does help with melee, but in all honesty, its still better to just use metal armor. Yeah shield bash is cool, but dirty kick is better in every way and it doesn't require you to commit to a garbage armor set to use it. I did not finish my spear/shield playthrough but I did have fun, particularly in the arena. I just don't like how feat intensive it is, just to be probably the worst but still viable melee build in the game.
>Only beaten Underrail once>Just found out about the tattoo system with the mutant>Sounds cool>Find out you can't have both the tattoo and psychic bitch Coral in the same game, so if you see Coral just restart if you want a tattoo>Read if you immediately run to the docks at the start of your game and don't see Coral, you're good to go and that means she didn't spawn in your game>Run to docks, don't see her, cool I can get a tattoo>Now 3ish hours in, made it to Junkyard>Coral's retarded cunt ass is at the barAwesome. I really do fucking hate some of the design choices Styg made with this fucking game. God damn man, I don't want to restart just to have a chance to see something new only to get cucked again by this stupid cunt. Fuck you Styg.
>>3061948you have to delet gypsy
>>3061948Just mod the game. Oh, wait...
>>3061948There is a workaround a lot of use and thats just deleting the gyspy file so she never spawns and booth always spawns.
>>3061948Take matters into your own hands then.
you WILL play a superstitious cave dwelleryou WILL get your palm readyou WILL buy the charmyou WILL kiss it in every fightand you WILL chalk up all your success to psi ghost magic and be happy
>removing content improves the gamewelp
>>3062021If the fucking gypsy at least didn't take away something that actually serves a gameplay purpose I'd be cool with her being in the game. The problem is you have a possibility of getting a random encounter that could give you minor boosts to certain things, or some gypsy who sells you a trinket that is literally worthless. I don't see why it has to be one or the other and not both. And I also don't see why if it does have to be one or the other, Styg couldn't add actual value to the gypsy's trinkets. It could've been very interesting having an item in your offhand actually provide a passive during combat.
>>3062029The "mutually exclusive" content is a terrible idea for a game as long as UR. Guess Styg is going to double down on this gay shit for Infusion.
Someone needs to play throwing knifes build to know my pain.Genocided native.Don't want to DC.
Hammer builds any good? Thinking of making non-psi pure hammer.
>>3062103i've done before and i'm currently doing it a second timeit's fun as fuck, what is this pain you speak of?unless it's the pain of running out of shit constantly in which case yeah alright that part does suckDC will probably involve me al fabet walking to the elevator going down with a couple hundred pounds overweight of throwing knives and i'll still likely run out
>>3062116No. I tried out the best one I know of, one that I can't improve on myself, back in january and I'm forced to admit that they're just not much good. If you're gonna play a hammer, play a hammer wizard.
>>3062128Even something like pic related wouldn't be fine? I'm only playing on normal, probably should've mentioned that. No way in hell I could beat dominating even with the best build, I'm not that good.If using psi is what it takes to make hammers viable, what would you recommend?
>>3062128do you have a hammer wizard build @ 30 like that image?
>>3062132you can play anything on normal and be fine, really>>3062136<
I don't remember how often hacking and lockpicking is used. Am I missing out on a ton of stuff if I don't invest in either? I pretty much always take them iirc, but now I want to invest in dodge and evasion since I never use either.
>>3062180just jump in and try itI did once and it ended up with me developing my favorite character and playstyle
>>3062148thanks, guessing this is a 95% tung armor type build too?
>>3062292yes, highest armor penalty you can getthough id say a shaded tungsten helmet is generally better than an ironhead
The fuck? I didn't know this could spawn not affiliated with the water treatment quest. I got the Harland bot quest and had this spawn outside the place you find Newton.
>>3062340yep, its one of the random treasure itemsnever seen one there though; good for you to find one that early
>>3062116They're good enough but most other weapons that are decently built will have an easier time with the game. Psiless is fine but you'd better get crit chance and use TiChrome.>>3062128>no Expose Weakness just so you can take 10 Con (lol) and 4 Agi (lmao)Absolute 1 Int motioning retard.>>3062132Keep Agi at 7 and Con at 9, get EW.>No way in hell I could beat dominating even with the best buildDominating's difficulty is overrated, it's really mostly about knowing your way around the game and how you can cheese mobs when your build hasn't come online yet.>>3062180Hacking has some bonus stuff that can be nice and you can skip the naked part of JSHQ with it, lockpicking is pretty much an inferior pickpocketing outside of letting you unlock vents with 3 Str. Neither are strictly necessary.
>>3062340Jeez what a early game find.
>>3062354Not sure anyone even buys luxury items early on so it might not be that useful.
>>3062345no, you're an idiotsuper slamming spiked sledges and balors hammer with high crit chance and mega strength dont need EW, especially if they do crowbar + blasting cap in their off handyou could argue the quad naga fight, but with evasion and blast cloth you can just let them blow themselves up if you stay close enough to them, and with your mega damage reduction you'll be fine if they slap you
>>3062361oh yeah, you're rightits pretty much just derica
Don't know why everyone hates on con and acts like it is wasted points. Its tons of fun.>Low dex>Accidentally throw grenade at my feet>Kill everything I was trying to kill>And survive>Get into fight with the pipeworkers shacking up outside Junkyard>Light entire ground on fire and chase the retards around through it barely even noticing while they AAAAHHHH themselves to deathNot to mention unrestricted access to the most based feats in the game.>Thick skull (makes crawlers a fucking joke)>Last stand>Survival instincts
>>3062363>high crit chance>SlegdehammersAs if.
>>3062375You forgot the part in which you can become inmune to mental/electrical damage.
>>3062404yep, you're a tard>SI>focus stim>bandana>body horror52/55% with balors is no joke
>>3062428Gee guess I never played a sledgehammer before.Silly me.
>>3062363>blasting cap crowbar>when TiC hammer is better, deals more damage, and has less AP costAnd it's not about not needing the feat, it's about convenience. Hammer is one of the least feat intensive weapons in the game. You don't even have energy edges and high Dex for kukri to be able to argue for skipping EW.
>>3062444oh, and infused rat if you decide to forgo the fursuit
>>3062449Please keep teaching me on how to play sledgehammer builds.
>>3062448you just dont need itif you need your ability points elsewhere, giving those up to get 5 int is just a bad idea if you're taking 5 int anyway, or you arent tight on ability scores, then surebut this optimal non-psi hammer build does need themit doesnt need the 4 agi, but dropping that to 3 still only gives you 1 point when you need 2 to get to 5 intno way am I dropping str or con on a build like this>>3062456you clearly need it
>>3062459>you just don't need itYou clearly can't read since I said it was about convenience, not necessity. You don't need ability points anywhere else so bad, especially not for fucking Thick Skull which is incredibly shit.While you're scrambling to get blasting caps early on and only debuffing a single enemy per fight, I can dish out an EW every 4 turns for tanky shits and be not worse off at all for it on my build. I can kill industrial robots without going out of my way and reapplying a consumable on my offweapon every time I exit combat.
>>3062554>especially not for fucking Thick Skull which is incredibly shit.ok, you really are retardedI can't spend time on you
>>3062563>heh I'm so tanky with 10 Con and full tungsten armor and Conditioning and specced Stoicism>NOOOOOO I CAN'T BE STUNNED FOR A SINGLE TURN AGAINST AN OPTIONAL ENEMY NOOOOOOOOOOOI think the only retard here is you buddy.
imagine playing with more than 3 conimagine actually getting hit by thingscouldn't be me
>>3062583*Dies on the first hit*
>>3062587>getting hitsounds like a you problem champerino
>>3062594*Gets hit regardless*
>>3062646*has a decent shield**pops a health hypo**kills everyone turn 2**nuzzles your bulgy wulgy*is that all you got or are you just used to sitting there and taking it
>>3062665*Dies on the first hit regardless*
>>3062694>>3062646>>3062587A quick PSA to all - never play chess with a pidgeon like this one.
>>3062726Claiming to never get hit it's on the same same level as 'Nope, my queen simply does not get killed by your pieces'The only right action to take, is to mock it
>>3062231doesn't really work but i appreciate the effort
>>3062583My mind can kick your mind's ass!
>>3062958man fuck fighting against psi
>>3062583I enjoy having an extra 30% crit chance on most builds
Civilians? nobody down here but a bunch of raiders
>>3063164One of the few times Gorsky has a point.
>>3063164I love the smell of napalm in the morning
So I'm trying to do the Junkyard quest for the Black Eels and apparently to plant the C4 in Depot A I need to get into a vent, but I don't have any lockpicking skill at all. Am I fucked? Can I just not do this quest?
>>3063367Try a crowbar, hope you have some str. You can find them from the lurkers near where go to GMS there are bunkers down below and those guys carry a crowbar.https://www.stygiansoftware.com/wiki/index.php?title=Steel_Crowbar
>>3063367theres a vent thats opened already
>Immune to dirty kick>Immune to flashbangs>Frags barely scratch him even though he's wearing a fucking tunic>Insanely high dodge and evasionGuess he doesn't have balls? Or eyes? Seriously, this fight is fucking bullshit.
>>3063453he's a mutant; we don't know what his biology is like
>>3063453hes not immune to gas grenades though which I thought was pretty funny considering his lore
>>3063453You're not supposed to fight him.and he's biologically immortal man doesn't eat or sleep
>>3063478>You're not supposed to fight him.Fuck him, he's dead now just because of how bullshit he is.
>>3063478then why does he carry a unique?
Whats the effective level to stop leveling hacking /lockpicking again
Had to cheese him with bear traps but I don't even feel bad about it considering the fucking ridiculous stats this faggot gets.
>>3054725>What is your favorite build?Loreful Psimonk>What is your favorite spell?Force Emission>What is your favorite unique?Balor's Hammer (Stygger nerf notwishtanding)>What is your favorite music track?Expedition main theme>What is your favorite town?SGS>What is your favorite oddity?Whichever gives the most points. Beast?>What is your favorite character sprite?Tchort heavy soldiers
for every new character you guys make do you go to junkyard and get the cheese shield + early charons?
>>3063600>cheese shieldIs a shield guaranteed in Depot A? I thought it was randomized. But early money and XP for sure on Dominating.
>>3063600I never do that.
just learned you can't freeze these niggas which is depressing. I'm still able to practicality 2 shot them with a EW butterknife but I still feel robed of what could've been
>>3062013Doppelganger is a rad spell though>>3062375CON is not hated, just left as a dump stat because more damage = goodLess damage taken also good but it certainly doesn't feel that great without putting some real points into itAlso yes doing an indiscriminate 'nades run with high CON is tons of fun
>>3061712It's a sword like any other. Set action point use so no reason to go with dex sword (not like you should either)
How does cryostasis and exothermic aura interact? Ice cube melts immediately when you go near or after passing turn?
>>3063600I do it on certain builds on dominating but not always
>>3063697swords arent light weapons, dingledongle>>3063768I just did the ice tower with an mt build; running past frozen mobs while exo is active did not wake them up
how can anything compete with bear traps
What do you do first on dominating after handing in the drill parts
>95% chance to hit>miss snipe>miss aimed shot>miss regular shotBre...
>>3064005>>3064017Wasn't there some schizo who used to post here explaining why 95% wasn't actually 95% and the rng in the game was fucked up? I remember hearing something about that. I definitely agree with that shit though, I'm doing a hammer playthrough right now and it seems like I miss 95% swings all the fucking time. Fuck Wyatt Pear.
>>3063998Get Core city quests, then to rail crossing to get fast travel and then foundry as youre near anyway at that point.
>>3063998Head over to foundry to rape Evelyn and do the quests for oculus
>>3063942People get confused when they see DEX requirements for feats, banga.
So I want to do a second playthrough but I'm having a hard time with the build autism since Underrail is not that balanced, so I need advice.Should I go for Energy Pistols or Chem. Pistols?Max Dex for -AP or Per for Acc?Which feats up to LVL 10?No Psi/Versatility tho, just focus on one type of weapon
>>3064236>Should I go for Energy Pistols or Chem. Pistols?Seems like a tough choice. Some things resist energy, some chem. Chems are probably tough early against mutants.>Max Dex for -AP or Per for Acc?You get AP from dex for pistols sooo... a little bit Per, but mostly Dex. 8 Per or something.>Which feats up to LVL 10?Look up forums?
>>30639981) the great non-combat oddity hunt to go from lvl 10 -> 16. Usually pickpocket insignia from CC faction members.2) level Electronics, construct custom energy shield with as high block and capacity as possible ASAP.3) Rathound King, but save the burrowers until the energy shield hit just right.
Having fun on my hammer build so far, just wish hammers had more feats. You really only get>Super Slam>Bone Breaker>Pummel>HeavyweightAnd super slam is honestly not even good, even if you push hard for as much health as possible it barely gives you more damage AND it has a cooldown. Bone breaker also isn't very good, if you crit with a hammer you fucking destroy whatever you hit anyway. Heavyweight requires a high armor penalty, which I avoid like the plague on melee builds in general so I honestly can't speak to how good it is (it sounds like shit). Pummel is pretty good.
>>3064484>HeavyweightShould be just +dmg% instead of crit damage>Super SlamShould be passive/constant damage since it's just limited to sledge or a limited time buff but with 40% of your maximum health
>>3064484Im literally running a hammer build now (had one a while ago, dropped it, think it was nimble can) and now I decided to spice it up by going full can + grenades (never really used grenades extensively)It shows, hammer alone has been left behind, aside from pummel making dodge twinks start quakin, you don't see good stuffThen again, I re-started this run for the same reason I started it, to use Yell to the max . Its funny how Brutality also has an icon of a hammer user. The feats should be boosted with a hammer or something idkNothing is more intimidating than a big stick coming to get you
>>3064540>Then again, I re-started this run for the same reason I started it, to use Yell to the maxYell+dodge+evasion are insanely based. I'm doing a zerker hammer build right now and I am barely taking any damage. The only fight that gave me trouble was Wyatt in Depot A, and that's because (A) I fought him at level 8 and (B) he's fucking bullshit and is immune to pretty much everything.
>>3064484>super slam>not much extra damagehe doesnt know!
>>3064378This is the best path imo. I always tried to go to hathor right after I hand in the drills and usually get fucked by the burrowers, but if you come back at 14-15 its a breeze.
>>3064378man i barely make it to 13 before i have to go actually do quests and shit, where are you getting all this extra xp from?usually if i can't beat camp hathor at 13-14 then i consider my build scuffed to hell
>>3063541Hacking, around 100 effective, lockpicking at around 50 effective if you're 3 Str and only want vents and maybe a couple oddities earlier. Any more and you start getting useless loot.>>3064236For chempistols I don't know, but get 10 Dex for epistols because the next breakpoint is at 14 Dex and it's only one extra attack. You're better off getting more damage and crit chance for guaranteed oneshots.
>>3064750I don't know what? Redpill me on super slam
>>3064828try it with a spiked hammer
>>3064836Then I'd have to not use an electro-shock hammer. How much is a spiked hammer elevated with super slam? It'd need to be a ton to make that worth it.
>>3064840it applies super slam to each damage instance, so once for the hammer and once for each spike
>>3064785>where are you getting all this extra xp fromAfter Depot A, take trains and boats to the various hubs and there's a shitload of XP just lying around. Probably two levels worth in CC, ~1.5 levels worth in Foundry+mine, ~1 level between the easy Lurker tunnels + Rail Crossing. A lot just searching trashcans and stashes in the abandoned rail tunnels and connecting areas. Stealth makes it a lot easier to avoid battles while exploring, and a little metagame knowledge from previous playthrus goes a long way.
>>3064962Meant to mention you can take a quick jaunt to Expedition and collect a nice chunk of oddities without doing much or any fighting (stealthchads can't stop winning).
What's the earliest laser pistol I can find?
>>3065181Junkyard, do the eddy quests until the disc
>want to replay the game>talk to old jonas>don't want to replay the game>want to replay the game>so on and so forth
>>3064964>stealthchadsAnyone can (and should) carry stealth gear...
Anyone use blades on a hammer before with taste for blood? I'm wondering if it'd be any good
>>3065181if you can sneak through the upper caves you can do the little quest for milton
>>3065287suboptimalbetter to either have a serrated blade on your metal armor or use nail bombs
Is it possible to spawn yourself items with the console? I'd like to play this again with a build of my choice and be able to play it the way I want right from the start.
Do you pipeworkers have any cool art I can use as a desktop wallpaper?
>>3065538Yes, you can even spawn crafting components in a specific quality
>>3065538Yes. Only thing you can't seem to spawn is the steel dragon
What was stygger smoking when making this thing?A smart corsair rifle:>can kill 2 guys for free with shoothing spree and even end up with more AP than what you started with>insane damage up to 3k and more, meaning a guaranted kill if it hits even for nagas>5 STR requirementThis thing:>can only fire it once even with shooting spree, end up with 25 AP unable to shoot without using AP boosters>need to line up enemies to get any use out of it (and potentially deal with move and shoot penatly)>passthrough damage is regular damage, no crits>no extra damage from unconditional attacks>reduced crit damage>dazes you (but not the enemy)>7 STR requirementLiterally what's the point?Is it for sticking in your urethra to scare enemeis because of how derailed you are?
>>3065795He was smoking the following>make game>make item(a) within game>change game>change game>change game>change items>try to update item(a)>fuck
>>3065795A lot of the uniques are shittier than even mid-game crafted items.
>>3065795the refurbished one is post-endgame, so its line attack shenanigans are just for fun, or maybe for people who do exped after DC, so against natives and locusts and shitthe regular black arrow is for noncrafter snipers to kill the endboss with (its good for snipes)
>>3065845Grenade abuse is more lore-accurate
>>3065845It's so fucking ridiculous
>>3065927first build I did it with was xbow
well i'm a absolute fucking idiot who has just lost 4 hours of progress back to before Depot A after accidentally causing all of foundry to be hostile to me and having no saves from before
>>3065982what did you do? forget to close the cell door or something?
Does the rib breaker feat proc from the butcher's cleaver?
Part of me still feels the urge to load my final save and see if my character can kill every NPC in the game.
>>3065982A good habit is making manual saves before doing any quests in controlled territory
>>3054725>favorite buildblob pistols I guess. dominating post-patch gunpowder pistols w/ tm dip run was pretty fun tho. and so was 3 int max AP las pistols w/ ambush. >favorite spellprepatch forcefield,plasma beam>favorite uniqueprepatch red dragonafter its nerf, lemurian spear>music trackexpedition theme I guess. way too many good tracks in this game, josh culler rly improved a lot.(other rly cool themes: tchort, lemuria outside, original main theme, gray army, savage battle, new main theme)>favorite townthe rig>favorite odditybutcher's lucky charm >favorite character spritebison armor sprite.Other thoughts>favorite bossAbomination.>favorite settingUtility tower.>favorite enemyindustrial robot. >favorite npcvivian >>3054784>favorite dialogueI want to go home.
>>3066491>>favorite npc>vivianSimping for an NPC that love bombs you and acts cutesy has to be the most late teen thing imaginable. Styg is literally laughing in your face for falling for the bait.
>>3066493I know I just can't help myself, man.Otherwise marcus+ladelman combo, or maybe the tchortist cafeteria guy you can hit on as a female character who constantly rejects you. Also shoutout to the faceless guy you can help out in core city.
>>3066497Shit tierBest girl: LjubostankaBest lead: FerrymanNon-human: The dumb mutant in ExpeditionBonus: SynestheteChrist you have shit taste.
>>3066503Rude!Ferryman is great tho.>Ljubostankakek>Synesthete Fuck that's pretty good. going back home and finding the hexagon gem was so cool. Actually why I liked aran so much, with him popping up in your basement to kill you for the acorn
My favorite has always been old jonas. Kindred spirit. I have to give props to six; I actually kinda like him, but more than that I like that he causes endless amounts of asspain to whiny tyrannical faggots
>>3066508>kekStyg should've added way more humor like that. Kokoschka was a pretty funny character, but a whole dialogue tree feels like kicking a dead horse. But yeah, the eastern slav district in core city was a nice touch. We should've been to hunt down that no good svetlana.
>>3066514Jonas is a special snowflake. If he were a quirky old fart bullshitting you about going into DC, that'd be fine.
>>3066517ah, I thought you were being genuine
>>3066518The writing always disappoints because joke characters suddenly have deadpan reactions like dude bursting into treats. Styg is too obsessed with his character "mattering" in the overarching story. It's a silly game. It shouldn't be serious. Take notes from old fallouts. And especially, don't try to shoehorn "scary" writing as if your audience is 15.
>>3054725>What is your favorite build?Nimblecan hammer probably. Getting armor penalty just right between skills and crafting mats can be a pain in the fucking ass but I live for that autistic shit.>favorite spell?In my 300+ hours I've never once messed around with psi beyond temporal manipulation. Kind of surprising. One of these days I'll make a pure psi build. I just don't like playing wizard/magic types in games like this.>favorite unique?Balor's hammer>favorite music track?Drop Zone. That was actually the moment the game really 'clicked' for me. Everything about Core City is awesome, especially the zoners. >favorite town?Core City>favorite oddity?The motion detector or pip boy>favorite sprite?Super steel
>Hey, I've improved. I'm not *that* lazy anymore. ::He laughs.:: >But you, jerk, you disappoint me. Where's the welcoming >party, huh? Huh? Where's the gun salute? Explosions? >Scantily clothed chicks? And why aren't you standing on a >pile of corpses? What the hell, man? >Also, you look older than Billy Toxic, by the way. Remember >him, grandpa?Shit like this is why Underrail doesn't read like a deadpan story, but it still pretends to be deadpan. It reads like a slavic version of A Fistful of Dollars translated into English by a character from Lock, Stock and Two Smoking Barrels.If Underrail was ever made into a film, it would've ended up as an Anime. The writing is that corny is inconsistent.
>>3066515I really enjoyed that little bit of the dropzone, same. Also there is a svetlana, she's in the coretech questline iirc. One of the thugs u might have to kill to get the device back or whatever, it's been a while I forget. Not sure if it's the same one tho. Would've been funny if there was an actual questline w/ helping out ljubostanka.
>>3066539It's two old friends with contrasting personalities meeting again, you soulless freak
>>3066539Idk personally to me its at a level where it's so bad its actually good. it's hard to describe but i'll take this corny shit every day over most modern day dialogue.
>>3066589It's not forced is the thing. Modern dialogue suffers from being so fucking fake. Don't you remember saying a lot of stupid shit throughout your life and meeting a lot of different people? Underrail dialogue is good because it's diverse and fits the characters you encounter. Six and Tanner are soulless alien freaks and it reflects in their dialogue. Gorsky is a hardass who believe in might makes right (it does), which reflects in his dialogue. Dude is a brilliant stoner and it reflects in his dialogue.
>>3066587Watch Lonesome Dove if you want to see well portrayed camaraderie between old friends. This kind of writing is inconsistent and forced. The phrases don't fit a bunch of misfits that lack an education (unless we are watching British telly about a bunch of quirky gangsters).
What difficulty do y'all play on? I used to only play normal which got boring in the late game, so then I did 2 successful dominating runs, but now I feel like it's just too much work so I'm back to playing on normal. I kinda wish dominating didn't lock off content.
>>3066661Play on dom just for the boss HP. If i could get that feature on hard mode I would play that instead but alas
>>3054725>What is your favorite build?SMG with Chem pistol hybrid>What is your favorite spell?Limited Temporal Increment>What is your favorite unique?Rigged D5 Mutagen :)>What is your favorite music track?grey army base>What is your favorite town?Junktown>What is your favorite oddity?Whatever that thing in the jar was>What is your favorite character sprite?Tactical coat
>>3066661Once I played on diminating I coudn't go back.Hard is way too easy once you know how the game works, also all the extra encounters you miss out on.
>>3066661Dominating. Unironically, normal would be too easy now that I'm so used to it.It's an unbalanced mess, but I love overcoming it.
>>3066661domas the others say, the other difficulties are too easy to be fun anymoreI could go another step harder or two
>>3066661Dom because bosses feel weird dropping dead after 2 hits. It's not fun, unless played with speedhacks though.
>Can't find 100+ quality stabilization wings for my spear build character anywhere>Eventually get bored and move on>Now playing hammer>Find 110 quality stabilization wings at level 11Thanks styg
>>3066491>Other thoughts>favorite bossI guess Jookhela, at least in terms of the fight itself; she's probably the singest toughest enemy if not for the OP grounding spell>favorite settingtough call; I like some of the little hidden places in DC a lot, but I also like the outside ruins of lemuria>favorite enemypic-related, sea wyrms for critters>favorite npcOld Jonas>favorite jettorpedo, its green and its the fastestotherwise the shark is the most aesthetically pleasing, and the phaser which is also green and glowsif the torpedo had more siding and a kinda camo pattern and could glow like the phaser (and you could turn it off), then it would be the ultimate jet, hands down
>>3067108Oh yeah jetskis. Definitely shark for me. If the jetski with the tow ability wasn't so shitty at towing I would've picked that one tho.>settingGod expedition introduced some amazing environments. I'm so damn happy it exists.
>>3067125Yep. When I was doing the beta test, I was just blown away. Underrail was already my 10/10 game, but this bumped it up to like 12/10.
>>3067053I haven't seen a hammerer frame in ages either. I'm considering using merchant refresh to finally stop caring about visiting vendors... the whole game is a design failure thanks to this RNG and loot slog.
>>3054725>favorite build?Non-Adrenaline-Burst Cyclops (Cyclops but withought 9 agi and Psychosis instead of Tranquility)>favorite spell?PLasma Beam, of course.>favorite unique?Cyclops's Eye, duh.>What is your favorite music track?Sormirbaeren Invasion.>favorite town?Does expedition camp count? If not, Pirate Base.>favorite oddity?Cybernetic Module. Do not squander them.>favorite character sprite?Protectorate Dreadnaught. 80's dream come true.
>What is your favorite build?chem pistols or energy pistol>What is your favorite spell?Electrokinetic Imprint or kinesis>What is your favorite unique?W&S .44 Magnum>What is your favorite music track?Foundry or grey army base>What is your favorite town?Junkyard>What is your favorite oddity?Lunatic poetry>What is your favorite character sprite?Chemical Assault Unit Armor
>>3054725>What is your favorite build?Zerker. It's the only build where I actually like skilling into dodge and evasion. Really good mobility and durability. Carnifex beat the living daylights out of me, but I still managed to kill him through a sheer slug-match. >What is your favorite spell?Tele-Punch. >What is your favorite unique?Would be Balor's Hammer if you didn't have to make a very specific build to use the damn thing. Guess I'd have to say The Glaive or Dehumanizer. >What is your favorite music track?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ortn1SYIUQ8&t=146s>What is your favorite town?SGS>What is your favorite oddity?Bug spray because you find it on the feller that got ripped to shreds in a big spider's nest.>What is your favorite character sprite?Bison>What is your favorite boss?Carnifex>What is your favorite NPC?Gorsky is my main nigga, wish there was more to do after helping him in Core City. I remember I kept checking back every so often my first time playing the game just because Gorsky kept saying shit like "once we get settled we're going to be back at it", so I figured I could do more gang shit for him.
>>3054725>What is your favorite build?I can't decide between Omnipsion, bare fist gigachad, or the walking war crime>What is your favorite spellNeural Overload trashes anything organic but Electrokinetic imprint is a close second>What is your favorite uniquethe high spiriter staff>What is your favorite music track?Abyssal Station (eldritch)>What is your favorite town?SGS is weirdly comfy for some reason even though you're never there for long.>What is your favorite oddity?The random bodyparts you collect, like a complete fucking lunatic.>What is your favorite character spriteAncient Rathound with no overcoat tied with Bison leather with overcoatshame both are kinda meh
>>3067053I swear rapid reloaders are rigged to no appear when you play a gun character, but then appear from level 1 with a melee.Happens every fucking time.Thank god for the dev console
>>3067838no, people that complain about this are just blindRRs are dark and unassuming; your eye doesnt pick them up easily and you arent carefully lookingI sometimes see two at a time on merchants
>>3068186Junk jet, skipper, reef glider, blazer, shark, torpedo, phaser, glow, plasma leviator, devastator, aegis patroller, and protectorate cruiser
>>3068196junk jetS, freighter, reef glider, blazer, PHASER, torpedo, SHARK, glow, leviator, dev, aegis, cucks
>>3068203what do you mean close? I was correcting youits 100% accurate
I don't understand why dogs will kill and eat psi beetles but rathounds will peacefully coexist with the beetles
>>3068262I will kill and eat you and all your children
>>3068262Mammals and insectoids are at war with eachother
>>3068266calm down, chaim
>>3068268rathounds are insectoids?
>>3068271>>3068274Wrong, faggots. Dogs are insectoids, psi beetles are actually mammals (check out that brain), rathounds are, naturally, also mama lls.
>>3068286They call her ghost because shooting spree missed and the text on the f9 key is worn out
>>3068286KinoHope you went crit psi so you can fire a crit pyrokinesis and pretend it's a nuke
>>3068313Yessir, thats the plan. B)
>>3068330YouI like youYou're a chad
>>3066539>Cites dialogue>Hurr durr story badYou could have least complain about six being a gary stu or something
what level are you generally when you finish Depot A
>>306854120, I export then play it twice to compensate for the bad difficulty
>>306854110 on DommymommyIncluding most available exploration and quests for the mysterious smoking man. Not including Silent Isle, which I come back to later.
>>306854111 or 12 on dom oddity
>>3068714I love SS for meme purposes. It is better than tungsten but fucking expensive. \Can you imagine the reaction people would have to someone running around literally wearing money?
Was bored and I wanted to make this because I remember picking almost all the mushrooms on silent isle during my first playthrough, and being nearly beat to death. Idk if anyone else went monkeybrain during this part of the game on their first time lol
>>3069039>Idk if anyone else went monkeybrain during this part of the game on their first time lolMy first ever cheevo of Underrail was Shroomhead, as in I collected and even spawncamped Lake Mushrooms like a klepto, hoping I could sell them.In my defense, I was fresh out completing a full playthrought of Fallout New Vegas and all it's DLC.
>>3069045>lake mushroom spawncamperHoly shit, that's so fucking good.
>>3069039Honestly I have no idea how did I do itI didn't pick them up cause I knew they were everywhere, its my guess>>3069045Top kek
>>3069039hahaseriously, what the fuck are doppelgangers and why are they you?
>>3069165Hateful void reflections of you, I'm not sure how to describe it, it was so long ago but I know if you're interact with the Shadowlith as a strong pure psion you will get the dialog that more or less explains it
>>3069168I got you
>>3068862by picking up oddities
>>3069039thats good shit
>>3069039this is amazing ty anon
fucking plasma beam psibeetle just fuck me up shit on my corpse
>>3069316Gorsky jesus christ wtfyou can't say that
whats the best shield to stop burrower projectiles, a low one?
I know that doing the oligarchs quests locks you out of Phreaks questline, but does phreak lock you out of the oligarchs?
>>3070834Nope, it's best do his first if you want both
having now played the original to lvl 29, I would have made these changes to this "do everything" build:https://underrail.info/build/?HgUFBgMGDAnCoGIAAAAAwqBAPksAS0AfLjzCoAAAAC0ANisBOTYsKmUofkshZgUCf8K3wrtyw5zCrsKdwp7DiOKcmgbiorUC4qSsAuKvvATir70B378not actually sure about strafe really, but since I have 5 dex anyway, why notI use a 12.7 (for robots mainly), not a spearheadcould carry a spearhead for certain situations I guess, or just use strife with teh 12.7 and accept the small penalty
>>3066491>favorite bossOh, that's a tough one. Picking Tchort would be cheating, but.. yeah, Tchort.>favorite settingDeep Caverns>favorite enemyAnother tough one. Hunchbacks, I guess.>favorite npcEzra. Honorable mention goes to Six. He makes me feel real emotions. Mostly negative ones, but it still counts. Underrail wouldn't be the same without him.
Energy pistols are fun, I wish I tried them sooner
>>3071139I told you bre
Anyone got any high con builds they could recommend me? Constitution and dodge/evasion are pretty much the only things I haven't touched in this game so far.
>>3071455Berserker hammerfag, high CON/AGI/STR with stealth, and dodgevasion
>>3071490Is survival instincts even worth it with that much fucking health and damage resistance? How often are you ever under 30% health?
>>3071500not often, but if you ARE in trouble its really nice
>ascension/lessening burden>descent to center
>>3071463I am considering this for a Balor's run, but with Balor you have to stack so much STR there might not be enough points to spread around for AGI, etc. Considering a SS nimblecan to split the difference and have some defense/mobility plus megadamage from the hammer.That and I'm torn between doing a janky hoplite build with riot shields and stuff. The idea of ironically chucking laser-tipped spears at natives is arousing.
>>3071661just do hammer wizardtrust me, its the best way to play a hammer except maybe tm
>>3071176I like how standing around a trash fire in a can is like the most dangerous thing you can possibly do in underrail because of ambush
>>3071686ah, but it protects you from the dreaded cryo-magic-from-stealth