1.0 is getting near, how are feeling Larianbros ? What's your party gonna look like ?
For me it's Minsc, the best Baldur's Gate NPC
>>2980803Why would I play this steaming pile of shit?
>>2980803I might try rotating party memebers for maximum inspiration points.>if you take Astarion to the tomb and find the soul coin you get an inspiration point>if you save everyone during the first goblin attack Lae'zel gets an inspiration pointI should really map out which party memebers gets inspiration points at certain places troughout the story.
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>>2980836>look mum i posted it again r u proud of me mum?
>>2980803>What's your party gonna look like ?Haven't decided yet.I kinda want to play Wyll as an origin character since I think his backstory is pretty cool, but it depends on how much we can customize the origin characters. I still want to make him "my character" instead of just playing Wyll. If I can't do that I'll just play an entirely custom character.
>>2980857I think that the starting class will be locked for origin characters but how you build your character after that will be open to the player to choose.
>>2980865That makes sense, but I mean customizing them even before leveling up. Divinity OS2 let you fully customize the origin characters aside from their race, but the base class of several characters in BG3 is important to their backstory so it wouldn't make sense if you could just change it. Still I wonder how much will be open to customization. Even if the class is fixed, you might still be able to fine-tune their build like change the stats and skills. Not to mention how they look. For example Wyll needs to have one fake eye for his backstory, but is that going to mean I can't change how he looks at all?
Just gonna pick whatever feels good. I know nothing about the game except the main character has a brain parasite.I played D:OS1 and 2 as co-op but I believe this game will be better solo.
>still uses retarded origin characters>all party members are dogshit>only bearable way to play it is going full custom party
>>2980803I never liked the divinity series.
>>2980869We'll have to wait and see. But i am already too accustomed to the current looks of all the characters so making them look different will make the game feel wrong. Especially since i really like the final poster for the game they made.
>>2980882>made it so only the "evil" companions are usable for the EA since players probably wouldn't use them otherwise >now marketing only ever shows them, so whatever new companions they end up introducing will likely be completely overshadowedthere's something kind of funny about this
>>2980885>now marketing only ever shows them, so whatever new companions they end up introducing will likely be completely overshadowedKarlach has features in at least some of the promotional material, unlike Helia and whatever that other one was called. And they hardly need to advertise Minsc and Jaheira for people to give a shit about them.
>>2980803Undecided between devotion paladin of Helm or ancients paladin of mielikki so I can talk to critters and LARP as a druid. Frontline buddy either karlach or minsc, shadowslag as rogue/cleric and gale as wizard. Gale goes if we get a lore bard
>>2980882>>2980885>>2980889More proof that Larian's claims the so-called "good" companions were coming later was complete fucking bullshit. Laezel's a cunt Shadowheart's a cunt Minthara's a cunt Karlach's a cunt Jaheira isn't even romanceable and Helia doesn't even fucking exist. Garbage fucking companion roster. Siege of Dragonspear-tier cast of unlikable cunt retards.
>>2980919If you'd spend half of the energy you spend bitching about RPG romances on socializing more, you'd have an IRL romance in less than a week.
>>2980926>NO STOP CRITICIZING LARIAN THEY CAN DO NO WRONG STOP IT STOP IT WAAAAHHHHH IF WOMEN AREN'T CONSTANTLY ACTING LIKE ANNOYING BITCHES THEY DON'T HAVE A PERSONALITY YOU INCELFuck off shill
>>2980882It's funny to me how at >>2980836 Larian goes on about making more original characters, then the party members they made are the most generic human looking shit possible, apart from the toad.The party lineup is less original than a fucking Neverwinter Nights spinoff.
I have so many issues with this game: >human customization options look like mutts >shadow heart is a feminist bitch>wyll is black Why does the game have to be so pozzed? I won’t be playing.
>DOS: D&D editionpassthe damage larian has done to the crpg community is irreparable
>>2981005What community ? Are you talking about the divorced boomers bickering about NWN and BG1/2 ? The ruski paypigs that eats up whatever buggy mess Owlcat is making or Sawyer's fanclub that would rather watch video essays about his games rather than actually playing them ?
>>2981008he obviously means the romance obsessed faggots who dominate any discussion of this game outside of 4chan
>>2981014>outsideHaha...
>>2980926Who cares about the romances? The fact is you have no decent companions of any kind, they're all the exact same thing, with a dark past, a hidden agenda, and a secret master, and then personality wise they're all quipfagging, pretentious cunts that can't seem to manage being friendly or chill at any point in the entire fucking game. The entire reason Halsin was so popular and people wanted him as a companion is because he isn't like them, he's actually friendly, competent, and is fun to interact with since he's not one of Larians SUPER SPECIAL IMPORTANT origin characters, which necessitates they have way too much baggage and, apparently, the exact same personality and paint by numbers background.Again, forget the romances, where is just, simply, a character that is fun to have in the party? Every other RPG I've ever played managed to pull this off, from the original BG games to the Pathfinder games to PS:T (the gold standard, to be fair), to Betrayal at Krondor, I could go on and on and on, there are no RPGs, none, that had this terrible of an NPC roster. And deflecting from that reality by trying to say that everyone who hates these garbage companions is just thirsting for romances is bullshit.
>>2980870I always like playing games in solo on my first playtrough so i can take my time exploring and messing around.
>>2981014It's been a thing since BG2, blame Bioware.
>>2981107I'm pretty sure that it was a thing before that. Romance is common for fairy tales(save the rpincess etc.) and D&D is essentially a fairytale with rules.
>>2981107The ironic thing is that no WRPG has had better optional romance since. in fact, it's only gotten worse.Considering it wasn't even good in BG2, makes this whole even more funny.
>>2981116Both Cyberpunk 2077 and Divinity:OS2 have better romances than BG2.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MVFbz9ZSilU
>>2981081You are kidding yourself if you think Owlcat's games have a better roster of NPCs than anything
>>2981118>Both Cyberpunk 2077 and Divinity:OS2 have better romances than BG2.
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>>2981139Cybertpunk and DOS embody literally everything wrong with modern RPG romances. They're just as shit as something from latter Bioware games like Dragon Age Inquisition.You'd have to be clinically retarded to think they're even passable. Since you're retarded, I'll ignore you.
>>2980803Long hair ShadowheartLong hair Shadowheartalso ignore shitposters
>>2981122Except that they do, although I will grant that they are worse than most other RPGs I've played. At least Kingmaker had Ekun'dayo, Linzi, and Jubilost, plus Nok'Nok wasn't bad. Also, another big point in Pathfinder games favor, is that at least the companions are varied and unique. Amiri is nothing like Tristran who is nothing like Harrim and so forth, they all have very distinct personalities and completely different pasts, goals, and natures. All of the origin companions are ridiculously similar, they all have the same kind of personality, the same type of dark past, with a hidden agenda, and a secret master, it's like Larian made all of them with a preconfigured list of attributes they had to have before they passed muster. Not to mention they all talk and act the exact same way, pretentious, annoying quipfaggots, there is no quiet, grim character, or a lighthearted trickster, or just a happy go lucky adventurer, no, they are all cut from the exact same cloth, and it shows. And if you happen to dislike this type of companion, well, tough rocks, because that's ALL Larian has on offer, and that is the issue everyone is having with the NPC roster in this game. So many people tried to cope with the "no we'll get more companions that aren't like this" only to find out that Karlach is exactly the same shit, and the only other options you will get are leftovers from previous BG games. So the cope is over and done with, and now people aren't going to be deflected from criticizing the companions with that bullshit, since everyone knows now it's a lie.
>>2981155Don't bother. Larianfags are a cult.
>>2981155>>2981159Sounds to me more like people posting about owlcat are a cult. While i did like Pathfinder:Kingmaker it is nowhere near as good as Divinity:OS2 or Baldur's Gate 3.
>>2981161None of the games you mentioned are good.To even start to try to enjoy them you have to overlook a mountainload of issues.
>>2981155Linzi, Jubilost and Nok'Nok are three different flavours of annoying little faggotEkundayo was passable but he's still the exact same vengeful ranger archetype you see in both Baldurs Gate gamesAnd obviously you couldn't name a single WotR NPC that wasn't unbearable
>>2981161I haven't even brought up Owlcat in this thread once, so spare me the bullshit.Also, for some reason every criticism of Larian and BG 3 is "shitposting" now.
>>2981176It is. Especially when it is done by people who've never played the game and are here just to shitfling. So go get a tripcode so people can filter you already.
>>2981176Do you think cuckposting in Owlcat threads is also 'fair criticism'? There is a big difference between calmly talking about the things you don't like, which many people in the thread do, and anti-Larian shitposting. I'm not saying you're at the level of the 3-year image spammer, but these criticisms are quite dishonest, you must admit.
I want to play as a Half-Orc monk
>>2980933the whole thing was performative criticism by some community manager to create buzz and score good boy points on twitter.
>>2981204>he wants to play as a monkMin maxing faggot spotted. Chads play Cleric.
>>2981202>anon criticises the existing companions, rightfully praises Halsin and mentions several games with companions he liked>someone instantly spergs out about Owlcat, because he mentioned Pathfinder among them>anon explains what he liked about them, and adds that "they are worse than most other RPGs he played">someone else spergs out how "people posting about owlcat are a cult" and how his clearly genuine posts are "anti-Larian shitposting"So many troubles could be avoided if people simply stopped sperging out.
>>2981220monks can't punch people to death
>>2981228i meant can, obviously
>>2981170Linzi, Jubilost and Nok'nok are all completely different personality wise and if you think trying to reduce them down to all being from a short race somehow invalidates that reality, you would be wrong. And what's wrong with Eku'ndayo being part of an archetype, archetypes work, that's whey they became archetypes in the first place. The grim, taciturn avenger will remain a classic as long as fiction is written, and Ekun'dayo was a solid version of that.And yeah, WotR NPCs were mostly garbage, but I did like Daeran, Ember, and Regil. Getting back to the issue at hand, though, the big problem with the BG3 companions isn't even necessarily the overall quality of the writing, it's the fact that every single origin companion in the early access are the same fucking type of character, right down to the kind of backstory and motivations they have, and the way they talk, and the way they interact with the player. In other RPGs, even if you don't like a given character archetype, you're fine, because there will be other character archetypes available in your companion choices that you do like, so you are reasonably satisfied with your options. For example I never really cared for the femme fatale archetype, so I never took those characters with me even if they might be written well or compellingly, because I simply don't like that kind of character, but that's fine because there are other character types I do like.But in BG3, that is not the case, even though the companions do have some small differences in moral outlook or background, ultimately they're all cut from the same cloth, the same personality, and the same backstory. They ALL have a dark past, they ALL have a secret agenda, they ALL have a powerful teacher/master (or Goddess, in Gales case) and they ALL talk and act the in the same pretentious, constantly quipping fashion. This is why when you encounter Halsin or Ethel, they are such a breath of fresh air. 1/2
>>2981246Because they actually have a personality and a nature that is something different, Halsin is a complete bro, Auntie Ethel is a manipulative, hideous monster that somehow pulls off acting like a sweet old lady at the same time, and that's where the game really falls apart for me.Clearly, Larian could write these better, more interesting characters, but somehow, they fucking didn't for the companions and so you, as the player, have no choice in the matter. If you don't like the archetype that Larian went with for their companions, you will fucking hate this game in that regard, because that archetype is the only thing that exists. Going back to my previous example, it's like a game comes out and there is NOTHING but femme fatale characters, no matter how well written or well done they may be, I don't like that type of character, and therefore I am not going to enjoy your game. This is where Larian has totally failed, they needed a more diverse set of companions with different personalities, different backgrounds, and for gods sake different means of talking to and interacting with the player. Also, even if you do like an archetype like let's say you like Imoen from BG1-2, most players are still not going to want to play an RPG where you have five Imoens in your party. And this is why I am saying BG3 has the worst companion cast of any RPG I've ever played, because that's what the cast feels like, a bunch of the same type of characters written in the exact same way, and that is why so many people hate the companions in this game.
>>2980803Is this Brianna Wu as an Elf?
>>2981259''She'' wishes.
>>2981259Fuck you now I can unsee it!
>>2981246>>2981250I disagree.
>>2981111but BG2 starts with whole romance shit with vidya RPGI absolutely blame Bioware for bringing this shit to videogames
>>2981276But since you can't articulate any reasons for your disagreement, and merely voice an objection due to being religiously and ideologically devoted to a consumer product, your disagreement is meaningless and only serves to further reinforce the points made.
Minthara best girl.
>>2981305She's not an Elistraeean, so she can kindly fuck off.
>>2981309Makes it even better for when she is redeemed by the power of Big Human Cock.
>>2981313After La'ezel and Shadowheart, she needs to get in line.You know, that anon is right. All female companions dance to the same beat.
>>2981305>drow whoreHorrible taste.
>>2981155>since everyone knows now it's a lie>knows now>nowI knew that shit from the start and the coping and excuses from shills has stayed the exact same the whole fucking time.
>>2981305>insufferable annoying cunt #3 after #1 laezel and #2 shadowheart>karlach is just annoying cunt #4They're all the fucking same. How about a nice likable female companion romance that isn't a cunt?
>>2981303>due to being religiously and ideologically devoted to a consumer product?
>>2981327>>2981361>>2980919I told you to get a tripcode, Mr. Schizo. It's easier to report you.
I get better BG3 discussion in reddit. >blah blah blah the characters are cunts>blah blah blah no they aren'tbye vrpg
>>2981469Sorry, anon, it's one schizo who's been haunting every single WPRG thread recently. You can recognize him by the following:>Interested solely on romances. Nothing else about the game in question matters.>Over-usage of "cunt", "bitch", and "whore".>Over-usage of greentext.>If you hit him with an argument he cannot refute (some anon kept asking him why he won't just move onto JRPGs and VNs, where his "type" of romances are catered to, he goes into full demented ramblings.
>another bg3 thread.Can't you niggers use the catalog and just pose your fuckin lazy ass question in one of the preexisting threads?
>>2981469Good, fuck off redditor.
>>2981469>redditIt's quite literally filled with kids or dumbasses who never bothered to exhaust their dialogue choices. Every crpg thread here on vrpg has an autist who won't leave.>Owlcat has the MY WIFE'S HOUSE anon<We have the orgin characters are cunts oneYou can just not engage him. No. He won't go away.
>>2981469Oh fuck off even the BG ledditors didn't want you faggots.>>2981475>Over-usage of greentext.Wait a minute.
>>2981541These are redditors, anon, they literally can't handle shitposting or criticism of things they like because they are used to it being removed by company placed moderators.
Has anyone tried making a throwing build? I am tempted. There are a ton of crap weapons around i keep gathering in my inventory. I just gotta check how is throwing calcualted. Do i need DEX only or DEX and STR? Should i do it on a fighter with archery or on a barbarian? Or maybe even a ranger?
>>2981545Some of them are redditors yes, the others are just waifufags who don't like it when you talk bad about their chosen waifu. It's a mixture of reddit and actual anons here. There's really nothing to discuss, I suppose the "leaker" anon though. If anyone could recover his rpgcodex posts so we could dissect them and see if he's an actual leaker. He did 'leak' future companions who I have no interest in at all.
>>2981557Go away shitter. RPG codex is for faggots and subhumans.
>>2981551Be a bard who chooses to throw things because you hate engaging in combat and just want to play your instrument. In all seriousness go the ranger route.
>>2981560If you want to discuss something try there for new content. Use the cache to dig up his posts, I don't know, and don't care.
>>2981545There's a difference between shitposting and an obviously mentally ill man who haunts every single WPRG thread where there are romances, and does the same sperging out over, and over again.
>>2981561This sound like a hilarious idea and there are plenty of glasses, pots and plates you can pick up.
>>2981570Who cares? You faggots literally can't handle him and don't know how to not whinge about it. You can't dissuade anyone from anything here. Deal with it yourself, the only thing you can control is your reactions.
>>2981577Nothing wrong with a fun build. You won't play the build on your first playthrough so go ahead and test it out
>>2980836The last time I played this the character customization wasn't that deep. You had like 5 faces and then you could glue shit on it. Why are they sucking themselves off when Monster Hunter and BDO character creator exists?
>>2981584Well, men have pride and for some there's no ignoring a post, it's defended as if it's a personal thing.
>>2981155Ekun'dayo, Jubilost, plus Nok'Nok>Based>Based>Based>Linzi>The fuck is wrong with you son
>>2980803None of the party members interest me. Stoic bitch, Angry green bitch, Alistar from DA but a wizard, that guy with a sword and demon... he's okay I suppose... MAKE ME CARE for these people in the first hour or it's over.
>>2981598Imagine taking pride in defending annoying female characters and shit writing.
>>2981625Uhhhh what's the matter incel do you need the women to be docile submissive waifus instead you worthless misogynist?
>>2981142>Panam romance wasn't goodI'm sorry but you just don't have good taste in women. One thing people never give cyberpunk credit for, is that the amount of straight/gay romances are split entirely equally. Panam is for straight men only, Judy is for lesbians only, River is for straight women only, and Kerry is for gay men only. Compare that to something like Dragon Age (after Origins), where it heavily caters to gays and bisexuals at the expense of straight romances, and even then there are more romances for straight women than there are for straight men.
>>2981629No. Wtf. They bitches bro. They evil. They get boners from child abuse. I'm woke bro... chill...
>>2981475>some anon kept asking him why he won't just move onto JRPGs and VNsHaha that was me.I'm also purge all leftists ancient /pol/ grognard anon.You're welcome everyone, /pol/ is here to help improve the board.It's Drow Cleric for me and spider fascism. I am in fact tired of playing humans with their PF extra feat superiority.
>>2981635Take the One D&D pill and give everyone a feat at level 1
>>2981634They "fixed" that whole questline with the child thief. They realized they made the female characters a little too evil and unlikeable with their dialogue negs and pluses. Though Shadowheart and the frog were meant to be more chaotic I believe so maybe they should have left them as irredeemable asshats.
>>2981625>Alistar from DA but a wizardNo, Rogue Alistar will be the Alistar of the game.
Did Larian add a bunch of fire and poison everywhere on the ground in this game too?
>>2981649Funny enough they did at first then patched it out. The retarded exploding barrel shit is still in though. You can kill the high level enemies in the intro with it.
>>2981652>Funny enough they did at first then patched it outAre you fricken serious?
>>2981633>One thing people never give cyberpunk credit for, is that the amount of straight/gay romances are split entirely equally.Why the fuck would you give credit to that? It's fucking retarded to pander to faggot shit when the core audience is straight males. No, troons are not women.
>>2981655I'm serious. The cantrips were overpowered for a while as a result.
>>2981647I guess I'll just wait for the complete game. I'm not a coomer to begin with so being sexy isn't enough to sell me on a character. The cheracter's you know character is important. Death to coomer waifu fags.
>>2981661I'm glad they patched that out. They need to realize they can't make a rival game similar to their own game.
>>2980803I think it's kind of off how there are so little companions in 3 compared to earlier Baldur's Gate games. And yes, I know the EA only covers Act 1 so far, but in Act 1 of BG1 you had so many options for companions, all of good, evil, and neutral variety. You had so many companions in fact that who you were going to keep in your party throughout the game was a big choice to make. In BG3 though, there are so many companions that are so cartoonishly evil and unlikable that it's more difficult finding out who you can even tolerate speaking with, let alone keeping with you. Shadowheart is an edgelord who serves one of the most evil deities in the setting, Astarian is an actual vampire (half vampire? whatever, he's still a monster) who can barely control his urge to feed off of you, and Lae'zel is a brutish meat head with a power complex. These three, along with Wyll and Gale, are the poster companions for the game and are the earliest companions players will find themselves meeting. I think that's a particularly off-putting game design, especially for players that don't want to act like psychopaths and want party members that are equally decent in temperament.
>>2981673You just want a submissive wife. Look, incel the real world don't work like that. These are real women in a high fantasy setting. Just because you disagree doesn't mean they're evil.
>>2981677Stop baiting.
>>2981678Just ignore him. It's the same guy making all these combative posts.
>>2981204I want to play as a straight slightly tanned white guy monk. cuz i'm a slightly tanned pale man in real life. if i was a green frog person i might consider being a frog person. though its all very contradictory because im not a fist fighter in real life. its all so strange. maybe i should be an elf or something.
>>2981677I actually think it's funny how the only people that seem to enjoy the early companions on BG3 are predominantly coomers. It goes to show that these characters don't really have much of an appeal outside of sexual fantasies, which is a bad sign. If you're going to make an RPG that has a long story and expect people to devote a significant chunk of their time to it, then the characters need to be likeable, or at the very least there needs to be enough likeable characters to want to keep people engaged.
>>2981633>straight/gay quotasWhy do lefty faggots scream about representative real world quotas in everything (fuck qualifications, women are 50% of the population!) and then want more fags than actually exist in real world ratios to annoy everyone with?Could it be that they have absolutely no standards or principles except to destroy what already worked for everyone for centuries? Are we supposed to give them points now for not being as maximally degenerate and obnoxious as possible?
>>2981688I dunno. You seem like a lefty faggot to me. Talking about gender and shit.
homosexual here. can you pound astarion's tight little butthole in early access? I want that vampire twink begging for my seed
>>2981695Kek. That's really gay bro. I think this guy >>2981688 might know. He loves talking about faggots.
>>2981695No he's designed for women so he pounds you.>>2981648>Adds attractive white elf and cool white, blonde haired rouge instead of the nigress halfling and gorilla goth chickLarian is based.
>>2981700>>Adds attractive white elf and cool white, blonde haired rouge instead of the nigress halfling and gorilla goth chick>[citation needed]
>>2981703Leaker. Read last thread.
>>2981703The "leaker" confirmed that they'll be in the game.
The only thing leaking is Shadowhearts asshole after i gape it with my kung fu monk fist.
>>2980919>Minthara isn't a companion>We've had a single converstion with KarlachI know you're really retarded jesus christ
>>2981686just play whatever you want, man. It's a fantasy game after all.
>>2981673Yeah that would be a good point if BG2 didn't only have 12 NPCs and then Bioware's fully 3D games like kotor cut it down to 9.
>>2981155>All of the origin companions are ridiculously similar, they all have the same kind of personality, the same type of dark past, with a hidden agenda, and a secret master, it's like Larian made all of them with a preconfigured list of attributes they had to have before they passed muster. Not to mention they all talk and act the exact same way, pretentious, annoying quipfaggots, there is no quiet, grim character, or a lighthearted trickster, or just a happy go lucky adventurer, no, they are all cut from the exact same cloth, and it shows.That's because they're all self-inserts of Larian's "writers". It's basically a competition who creates a bigger special snowflake.
>>2981921>[citation needed]
Threadly reminder to filter the word "cunt" and ignore the raging faggot haunting these threads. If you *have* to interact with him (you don't), please don't forget to tell him to trip up, fuck off or kill himself.
>>2981250I will agree that all origin companions share a good few narrative tropes to the point of it being annoying. Personally I don't mind, but I can understand how that may frustrating that may make one feel.It does serve to create dramatic tension which would be believable in this situation. I will also agree this hurts the game presentation. Who knows, it may end up being a relevant plot point, although Larian has a history of setting up half a dozen plot points in the opening chapter only to drop half on the way, which is unfortunate.For now I am cautiously optimistic after a couple EA playthroughs. If the leaker is for real the game could even be good. If he is bullshitting us then who knows, we really don't have enough info on the rest of the content beyond EA to do anything but speculate.
>>2981155The whole theme of the game is freedom vs slavery. Of course they all have secret masters. That's what makes them thematically fit together.In Kingmaker every story has to do with some sort of curse because that's what the whole game is about. In WoTR everyone is an outcast united towards a common goal because that's the main theme. Keeping some consistency like this is important for telling any story in a way that'll make sense.
>>2981673BG1 companions are also extremely simple. Most of them are just there for gameplay. They did a lot more with the characters' quests in BG2 (though they were still somewhat formulaic and mostly not involved with the main stories at all) and lo and behold, the number of companions shrunk massively.
>>2981590I've done a ton of builds in the early access right now but they were all a little bit try hardy. Should try a fun fail build. Like a fighter with 12STR and 12DEX but topping everything else in WIZ/INT/CHA.
>>2981633>good taste in womenThat explains why you think that "romance" is "good". You're not interested in a a well-written romance and development of characters.Also giving credit for splitting romance between gay/straight is the dumbest fucking thing you said. So for your sake, I'll pretend you never did.
>>2982098He was obviously baiting. The Cyberpunk 2077 romances are greatly written and fitting for the story and the world of the game.
>>2982148Lol
>>2981745>>2981747It doesn't even take a "leaker" to figure it out. Minsc is a companion, and the last issue of his comic, where he's still with said party, takes place literally days before the events of BG3 starts. So it isn't a wild guess that at least some members of his party will be companions, especially since the "good" aligned ones, other than Minsc himself, haven't been revealed.
>>2982304I want my Halsin. I just want him as a full companion.
>>2982304To expand:Evil Companions: Astarion, Shadowheart, Lae'zel, Wyll (?)Neutral Companions: Karlach, Gale, Jaheira, someone (?)Good Companions: Minsc, (???????????)There are too many empty slots remaining, especially in the "good" department.
>>2982304But i already like the ''evil'' companions. Will the ''good'' comanions be able to compare?
>>2981996>BG1 companions are also extremely simple.And yet they arguably still had more character than what you have with the NPCs in BG3.There is a good reason why people still talk about Jaheira, Minsc, Viconia, Edwin etc etc to this day.>Most of them are just there for gameplay. There were already some companion-quests in BG1:-Eldoth & Skie.-Safana & Piratecave-Minsc & rescuing Dynaheir-Edwin & killing Dynaheir-Kivan & Tazok-Branwen & getting her out of the stone as well as confronting Tranzig-Jaheira/Khalid & The Mines as well as meeting some Harpers on BG-Montaron/Xzar & the mines as well as meeting some Zhents in BG.-Coran & the Wyvernhunt as well as Briela in BG.and these are just the ones I thought off on the top of my head.>mostly not involved with the main stories at allYou could argue that the Harper and the Zhents and their respective representatives are involved in the plot.
>>2982316>There is a good reason why people still talk about Jaheira, Minsc, Viconia, Edwin etc etc to this day.People remember the companions from Baldur's Gate 1. Literally nobody gives a shit about BG1-exclusive ones, except MAYBE Xan. And even then it's more the case of the content introduced via the NPC Project mods. You'd be surprised how many people can't differentiate between what was in the vanilla version, and said mod. It was so popular Beamdog wanted to add it officially to the Enhanced Edition.
>>2982316>Jaheira, Minsc, Viconia, EdwinThese are specifically NPCs that also appear in BG2 and got most of their characterisation there.You're right that some had extremely basic quests though.
>>2982320Baldur's Gate 2*, my mistake.
>>2982316You're just plain wrong or you did not even play the BG3 early access.
>>2981380It's an unfortunate reality that the lack of real, honest faith and spirituality in the soulless and dying West has resulted in one of the most horrifying types of humans ever known to man. That is, the person who, lacking any real object of faith or worship, turns the media and electronic entertainment they consume into an object of worship and devotion, which is why it is impossible to discuss these products in any objective fashion when such malformed abominations are present, as you are not simply criticizing a mere product, but their god, their icon, their faith, and as such they do not respond with any kind of reasoned argument or logical defense, but instead react as the zealots they are, lashing out angrily and irrationally against those that dare to criticize their consumer product.
>>2982310Good and evil are not very usefull when trying to describe the multilayered companions we currently have in Baldur's Gate 3.
>>2982347Jesus Christ. I am Orthodox Christian and let me tell you this only once. Get a trip. You are one of the most disgusting shitposters i've ever seen. Completely delusional. Why are you here in the Baldur's Gate 3 threads? Go shit up another thread? Go post in a thread for a game you actually like? What caused you to be here just to shitpost? Are you that starved for attention? Surely there are easier ways to get your dopamine fix by shitposting on /v/.
>>2982352You seem triggered. And I never said I was a Christian. I am simply stating the sad state of the average human being in the blighted and dying civilizations of the Western hemisphere. The fact you took personal offense to my characterization of these wretched creatures speaks ill of your own state of being.
>>2982349Except that they were originally going to have alignments until they were told by WotC to drop them, and I would hardly call the companions in BG3 "multilayered" when they are all the exact same copy paste type right down to the type of history (dark past, secret agenda, hidden master) they have and their personality type (annoying, pretentious quipfag).
>>2982386 At this point you're not even talking about videogames in general. You're just spewing whatever is in your head. Fuck off to >>>/pol/ you delusional lunatic.
>>2982391Only one has a hidden master. We don't know anything about Lae'zel really. Secret agenda, whaaaat you mean people have secrets and their own goals? Have you met people IRL? >inb4 but why are none of the companions just normal NPCsBecause you meet the normal NPCs on the squid ship and they die. Only the strong and the protected survived. You just want to hate on the companions and on the game in general. Your posts stank of shitposting bile.
>>2982395I am directly addressing the fact that criticism of this game is not refuted with any kind of actual arguments by some anons here, due to the fact they are treating this game as more than an entertainment product, and will therefore brook no open and honest discussion of the games flaws since they are devoted to the game (and the company making it) in the same way a religious zealot is dedicated to whatever their chosen icon or god may be.
>>2982409There is no criticism. You are just shitposting. You clearly did not play the early access. All your knowledge of the game comes from regurgitated shitposting and youtube.
>>2982391>dark past, secret agendaHalf companions in every single RPG have those. You're not breaking new ground here with this revelation.
>>2982419Don't feet the retard. Report and ignore.
>>2982420I guess he has not played WotR. Man he'd hate that game. Hey shitposter? Why don't you go shitpost in the Pathfinder:WotR thread?
>>2982405>Hidden MasterGale (Mystra), Astarion (Cazador), Wyll (Mizora), Shadowheart (Her teacher/instructor who hasn't been revealed yet that she talks about after the dream and who sent her on her current mission), Lae'zel (Vlaakith). It's quite clearly the same story structure with every single one, they all have a powerful mentor figure that guides or dictates their actions, and not a single one is an exception to this.>Secret AgendaEvery single one has an agenda outside of being cured of the tadpoles that they keep hidden and secret from the PC at first and only slowly reveal if you gain their trust. Again, this is the exact same story structure for all five of them, there are no exceptions to this, and it is blatant.If you really can't understand why people think it's ridiculous that all five companions share the exact same story structure, as if they were all designed with a checklist in hand before being approved, and that people wanted more variance in the companions, just stop posting. You clearly lack the level of literary understanding necessary to contribute to the conversation in any possible constructive way, since you can't even comprehend what's being discussed, and can only blindly flail about that someone dares criticize your beloved Larian and 3 years in EA game.
>>2982349That's how they were originally described by the developers themselves. Alignments were removed due to WotC's bitching. You can clearly see which ones are supposed to be good, evil, and neutral.
>>2982420Except they don't, most RPG companions do not have a secret agenda or a dark past, since there is actual variance in the companions available in them. Certainly some do, but it's not something that is ALWAYS there in every single companion, unlike BG3.
>>2982427Mystra is a god you imbecile and Mizora is a warlock's patron. Do you mean that every cleric has a master now since they are linked to their god? Get a trip you tard.
>>2982419Again, we see that you can't actually respond to criticism of the game other than declaring that anyone who does so doesn't have true faith (didn't play the game) and doesn't know what they're talking about, since clearly, if you played this game, you MUST love and worship it the same way you, zealously, blindly, and ideologically defend your object of faith, which is hilariously enough a video game and its producing company. Sad, really.
>>2982427>Hidden Master>Deity You WorshipAnon, you have to try harded. That makes every single priest/cleric/paladin/druid in every single RPG have a "hidden master".And what you describe as "secret agenda" is simply someone's personal goals, the staple of every developed party member since BG2 and onwards.>>2982432>Edwin>Montaron>Xzar>Kivan>EldothHere. Those are five companions from one fucking game, where they were also extremely barebones, who have either a dark past or a hidden agenda. You're embarrassing yourself.
>>2982428>all his knowledge comes from youtubeYou know, you are just proving the anon's point. Also you did not even bother rewatching the early panels from hell to remember correctly what the developers actually said.
>>2982437>I say the exact opposite in a greentext and a passive-aggressive, womanly way, so I must be right.See? I can do it as well.
>>2982433And for story purposes they serve the exact same role. Do you even have the capacity to rationally argue your point in any way, shape or form, or are you just going to keep resorting to trying to insult anyone who disagrees with you on this game? Then again, since you keep screeching about moderation, I assume you're from sites where the only posters that are allowed are the ones singing the praises of your beloved game, and so you can't handle actual criticism of it at all, let alone respond to it.
>>2982436And I can name multiple companions from that same game who DO NOT have a dark past or a hidden agenda, unlike BG3, which is my point, which you keep trying to evade.
>>2982436Or how about Baldur's Gate II?>Valygar>Cernd>Haer'Delis>Aerie>Viconia>Edwin>Jan Jansen>Yoshimo
>>2982449Or how about KOTOR II?>EVERY SINGLE FUCKING ONEOr how about Planescape: Torment?>EVERY SINGLE FUCKING ONE>>2982448No, you were trying to dishonestly portray BG3 as being some exception, somewhat outstanding in this regard, while it's bread and butter for RPGs since the inception of the genre.
>>2982436I don't understand why the schizo shitposter has chozen BG3 threads to shit up. We used to have nice threads early on /vrpg/ and then a few people started destroying the board and turning into /v/ 2.0.>>2981230You actually can toggle non lethal if you want to spare someone and just knock them out. I wonder if this will allow for specific gameplay scenarios/interactions and quests.
>>2982449Did you seriously just put Aerie down as having a secret agenda? We're done here, you guys are delusional fanboys that won't even discuss what's wrong with this game and blatantly attack anyone who criticizes it, this might as well be a thread on /vg/.
>>2982458No, you disingenuous retard, she has a DARK PAST.
>>2982320>>2982321>And even then it's more the case of the content introduced via the NPC Project modsMoving the goalpost in such an obvious way makes you look disingenuous even when you yourself admit to remembering Xan.You brought the NPC Project into this. Not me. Which was made by hardcore fans for hardcore fans.Do you remember a single NPC from OS1?I played OS2 like a year and half a ago and dont remember anyone but the dragonfag and the Witch.So you can stop with weird cope and simply admit that you already can tell that the NPCs in BG3 are written weak as piss and no one but autistic waifufags in the vein of DragonAge-Fans will remember them.
>>2982473It must be difficult being so valiant in face of opponents made of straw. Just admit you were wrong, and move on.
>>2982352>Orthodox ChristianNo you're not. You are using this in the same way leftoids use veganism or social justice as a crutch for their personality.And you can call that faggot a schizo as many times as you want, it wont make it any less true that you take criticism of the game as criticism of yourself.Because you're retarded narcissistic zoomer and you dont understand the concept liking something that is flawed or bad: You like it, therefore its objectively good, you dislike something, therefore is objectively dogshit. Thats the impression you give me.
>>2982349>the multilayered companions we currently have in Baldur's Gate 3>multilayered companions>Baldur's Gate 3>multilayered Are you trolling at this point?
>>2982483>Just admit you were wrong, and move onCould you try to apply what you demand of others to yourself?Just once.
>>2982473You simply have bad memory or early stages of sclerosis.>Do you remember a single NPC from OS1?Yes. Multiple in fact.>dont remember anyone but the dragonfag and the WitchSo you're just stupid or did not play the game. You for some reason remember the two that got memed on /v/ the most.
>>2982488Larian drones don't play RPGs aside of Swen's slop.
>>2982496>Yes. Multiple in fact.Really telling that you couldn't name even one.
>>2982505>hates Larian games>instead of posting in a thread for a game he likes he comes hereThis has to be a mentall illness. Nobody normal would do that. I don't like most jRPGs for example but you won't see me going in jRPG threads just to shit them up. What games do you like shitposter boi? Tell us. I mean you don't like Larian games so what games do you like? I will make sure to make a thread for the game you like and send you on your merry ways.
>>2982505Its ridiculous at this point. This faggot shills for BG3 in a very obvious way and the moment people who played the game he shills for criticise what they saw he tries to poison the well by claiming "Oh well you must be this or that guy, oh well actually you must be a fan of Pathfinder".What a disingenuous faggot. I hate the current generation of RPG-Fans so much.
>>2982320>Literally nobody gives a shit about BG1-exclusive ones, except MAYBE XanCoran is my guy in every single playthrough.
>>2980874STFU pleb, character creation and customizability is just vain entitlement
>>2982525You're free to leave the thread. Move to a thread for an RPG you like anon. Or make a brand new thread fair said RPG you like if there isn't one currently on /vrpg/. We are not stopping you. Leave. Fuck off. Teleport yourself away.
>>2982518Nigger, I dont give a shit about Lariangames.I hate you. YOU personally. I hate everything you stand for.Because you cannot even admit when you're wrong. You cannot even admit that anything you like is flawed. Thats how much of humongous narcissistic faggot you are.Because playing some shitty ass triple A-Game is part of what you see as your identity. You are literally pic related. Swen personally could descent from the heavens and spit in your mouth and you would thank him for it.
>>2982531How about you fuck off back to /vg/ instead if you do not want to discuss videogames but circlejerk about them?
>>2982320>Literally nobody gives a shit about BG1-exclusive onesAlora, Branwen and Shar-Teel were my favourite party-members before you were even born.Kill yourself.
>>2982532The schizo got triggered. Well done folks. Now he'll never leave. And here i was hoping to talk about my latest Cleric of Light build idea but everything gets drowned by this shitflinging faggot's posts.
>>2982533>want to discuss videogames>>2982532
Guys PLEASE. SHUT UP.
>>2982533Aww does the little redditor want his echochamber?Afraid you won't find it here buddy.
>>2982549>no uWhat a terrible autism you must suffer from.
>>2982549I told you multiple times to get a tripcode, or fuck off.
Nice thread lmao. You guys have to learn that these people will never stop, they have a personal vendetta against a videogame. Making them sperg out is funny the first few times, but after that its just a nuisance.
>>2982600Nah, those anons blindly sucking Larian's dick for free are even more entertaining.
>>2982600bitch please, i've been fucking with fanboys since gamefaqs. the game literally doesn't matter.
>>2982600>lmaoReddit, now.
>>2982609And you think this declaration makes you look LESS mentally unstable? You sound like the most loveless, lonely loser in existence right now.
>>2982604>lie>that's not true>why you sucking Larian's dick bro?Yes, very entertaining.
>>2980803>1.0 is getting nearLMAO as if.Two more weeks, maybe?
>>2982681And here i thought i was the one hoarding loot. I tip my hat to you sir. You have impressed me.
>>2982600See >>2982485The "vendetta" is only in your head.The real schizo were you all along.
>in GREAT detail!Volo you perv!
>>2982681>>2982753>>2982849Still samefagging?
>>2982863Yes anon, i went out of my way to post a screenshot from a different version of the early access and on a loptop with a different screen resolution just so i could samefag.
>>2982822>See 2982485>A post with so much projection and schizophrenia that it seems like a parodyYes I'm sure I am the one with schizophrenia.Please lurk more before posting.
>>2982433>>2982436>THAT'S JUST HIS DEITY NOT HIS MASTER YOU'D HAVE TO INCLUDE EVERYONE WHO WORSHIPS A GOD BLAH BLAH BLAHMost worshippers don't fuck their own deity at level 1 you morons. It's Gary Sue bullshit.
>>2982927...are you a moron. Almost every single Chosen of Mystra was BORN that way (one buch were called the SEVEN SISTERS, to give cretins like you a hint). If you haven't noticed, they're literally the same thing as Bhaalspawn.
>>2982867Still salty that nobody’s actually wants to talk about this trash game outside of reddit?
>>2982941Anon if i were you i'd be more carefull with the admissions of trolling.
>>2982927>reading comprehension ZERO
>>2982427Vlaakith isn't a hidden master, she's the queen of Laezel's people.She also doesn't have a hidden agenda. She's a very open and honest character and is upfront about her desire to become a knight and wield a silver sword.
>>2982978You're replying to the shitposter. He has no idea what the third game is about or any of the lore. He is just here to shit up the thread with pointless confrontations.
>>2982473I played BG1 and 2 recently and really loved them but man I feel like you're letting your nostalgia take rein here. New games can't make experience childhood wonder again. It's not the game's fault you happened to experience the first two games during your formative years.
>>2982616that's because you are autistic and have no sense of whimsy. the internet is srs bizness to you.
>>2983129>no sense of whimsyThis isn't Peter Pan, and you're not Wendy. It's a discussion forum about RPGs, and a handful of autistic spergs are derailing every single thread once romances are even a thing in said game.
>>2982349>Good and evil are not very usefull when trying to describe the multilayered companions we currently have in Baldur's Gate 3.They're "multilayered" in the sense all modern hack writers (Larian's are they D-list nobodies) make them, they're just assholes with baggage.Comparing them to a character like Dak'kon is like a fucking joke.
>>2983390I told you to get a tripcode.
So I'm not really a tabletop gamer but how different is BG3 to BG1 and 2? Is it basically the same mechanics or will I have to relearn the game entirely?
>>2982405>>2982420You're outright going to bat for poor and formulaic writing. Unironically.The entire point of having a big roster of different characters is that they should be DIFFERENT.Some can be schemers, some can be assholes, etc. but not all of them should be the same shit with a different 3D model.Even the fucking most trash tier JRPG still understands this.
>>2983391>literally haven't replied to the thread since 2981135>paranoid schizo anon screams at people for getting trips because he gets triggered by people not agreeing with him
>>2983396It's about as different as Fallout 3 was to Fallout 1/2.BG1/2 is a classical isometric RPG (a progenitor one), BG3 is a Divinity:OS clone.
>>2983407This is dishonest. BG3 complicates a lot of the gameplay aspects by giving the played proper interaction with the environment and great movement. It is way better at translating a pen and paper than the original BG1 and BG2, wich are limited by their engine and the time they came out. BG3 is an improvement in every single way. Fallout 3 simplified some aspects due to the new engine and the first person perspective, BG3 complicates and adds more since the engine is simply better than the old 2D engine BG1 and BG2 used.>>2983401>anime reaction imagekys and get a tripcode you dumb weeb>>2983396There are a lot of different and new mechanics.>advantage >height advantage>the different environment effects>concentration with spellcasting>sneaking and shadows>wepons>specialization at lvl 2 or lvl 3 deoending on your class>different races>a lot of new mobility spells that we've never had before in BG1 or BG2>new conversation roll mechanics and cantrip/spell interactions with spells like Friends or CharmAlso the game is proper turn based combat so it is closer to The Temple of Elemental Evil than it is to BG1 or BG2.
>>2983444>reeee anime image on an imageboard called 4chan, based of a japanese imageboard and is still plastered with anime all over the place, with a manga characters as the mascotYou don't even know where you are and use that to deflect by being told off. Your mental maturity is that of a 5 year old girl.
>>2983444>This is dishonestYou and Larian are the only dishonest ones here.It's flat out DOS2, with minor tweaks.Many of their initial decisions that were copied directly from DOS2 and not BG1/2 got backlash and were changed. Like that asterisk bs.Peddle your delusions and ignorance elsewhere. No one listens to a zealot.
not gonna lie, I didn't play this because EA is for fags but I'm getting pretty hypeif it manages to play like Solasta but add actual characters and story it'll be right up my alleyhonestly only thing that has me worried is the companions, I was reading the wiki and it says there are 5 possible companions, I'll assume there will be 10-12 at launch like in any other RPG, because as it stands it's a pretty poor companion roster
>>2983525The early access is for smart people. >buy it on GOG>you have 30 days refund>see if you like the game or not>you like it, you keep it and also get the digital delux for free since all people with the early access will get it as a gift for supporting the game>you don't like it you move to another gamePeople that don't like early access are beyond stupid.
The more i play this game the more i am loving the soundtrack. It fits so well and is so fucking eery and spooky.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SDM53azRgl8
>>2983533>People that don't like early access are beyond stupid.EA is literally the devs wanting both money before a product is finished and people actually paying the devs to playtest an unfinished game.The benefit to the actual players is close to 0. Players that wait are far better off since they save time and potentiall money, to then be able to play a more polished and better product.>>2983537Oh look, music you instantly forget the moment it's turned off and is just background white noise.
>>2983533>he beta tests and he does it >FOR>FREEjanny-tier behaviour you dumb nigger
>>2983525It does have only 5 companions. 7 by launch. And so far, all of them are meh at best and shit at worse. Unless you really like the Morrigan/Zevran style "bitch/asshole that I redeem with my dick" archetype, because all of those companions are a variation of that.
>>2983563that's a relief, I fucking loved Morriganonly played DA:Origins tho not sure about the sequels, but she was both hot and based
>>2983597So now you have 5 Morrigans. Have fun.
>>2983601>5literally only 1 of them is a hot witch
>>2983549>>2983558^this is the shitposter. It's so fucking easy to identify him at this point. Especially when you watch the number of IP's not changing in the thread counter. If you say anything positive about the game you get a free guaranteed (you) from him. It's great for bumping the thread. Everyone is free to test this. Say anything positive about Baldur's Gate 3 and enjoy the free (you)s from the schizo.Baldur's Gate 3 is an amazing game with amazing music b t w.
>>2983537>>2983549I'm excited for another Bobby soundtrack. DOS2 was very good but it seems like he's going for a different sound for BG3 and I like it very much!youtube.com/watch?v=o-2Urpv5Oxo
I want to play an arcane caster when this comes out. out of all the arcane casters (wizard, warlock, sorcerer) what is your favorite and why?
>>2983627Some parts of some of the songs sound like they were made for a studio Gibly animated movie while others sound like they are from an old horror classic. Also the epic growing and the strings swelling in some segments is simply a blast. Listen to the part one minute in. One of my favorite parts.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rbrBPLCSqX8&list=PLh3auu8A8vZFLbe0GbTMjBNhoPi3xXlA8&index=3
>>2983638sorcerer has the added benefit of high persuasion which is neat for stuff outside of combat, wildmagic adds an element of surprise to evvery fight, also spontaneous casting means less management and preparation
>>2983638>what is your favorite and why?Wizard. You simply can't go wrong with Wizard since he has all the spells.
>>2983653Hight persuation checks are good sure but history, arcana and investigation checks also help a lot.
>>2983641You can tell its the best part since they use it in all the trailers. I wish the leaker told us more about the music, the only he thing he said was that he liked the Bhaalspawn's Theme.>>2983638Warlock since you can have high charisma while still being a main damage dealer which is what I like my main character to be. Also looks cool.
>>2983662>You can tell its the best part since they use it in all the trailers.It is one of my favorite parts of the soundtrack. I also like Battle Music 3 a lot. I like all the music so far but some of the songs really do pop out more than the others. Which is understandable since different songs are meant for different parts of the game.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wQZWC6Lx1MQ&list=PLh3auu8A8vZFLbe0GbTMjBNhoPi3xXlA8&index=17>I wish the leaker told us more about the musicI don't really trust leakers.
>>2980803test
>>2983673I really hope there will be character themes like in DOS2. A character having their own unique theme is one of my favorite parts of JRPG music, and you don't really see it in Western games (to my knowledge).youtube.com/watch?v=2dePRskqgk0My crackpot theory is that 'I Want To Live' is actually Astarion's theme. The lyrics kinda match his story, talking about 'breaking his chains' and 'drinking blood like wine'.youtube.com/watch?v=-5oVZjtm4YY
>>2983537>>2983627>>2983673>>2983681>not posting the best combat ost in the game currentlytchkhttps://youtube.com/watch?v=rh68DOpzKmg&feature=youtu.be
>>2983681The only WRPG that had themes for party members was Planescape: Torment and Dragon Age II.
>>2983681You might be right. This really sounds like it should be Astarion's theme. Would be interesting if all the main characters would be getting their own theme or a specific theme for a specific part of their story. A lot of parts of the game seem to have specific songs this time. Like the harpy encounter for example where the harpies sing to lure the little kid.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Nk8QDRc5DM&list=PLh3auu8A8vZFLbe0GbTMjBNhoPi3xXlA8&index=32
>>2983684All the music is great. I wish i could find it again but there was separations of the battle songs into different parts.>sneaking>combat>enemy down>ally downSo apparently different parts of the combat theme play depending on what is happening on screen.>tchkI love it when Lae'zel gets flustered and starts using gith slurs or words. One of my favorite characters to have in my party and to take along.
>>2983684youtube.com/watch?v=lEOX3Ef8GV8Really wish there were more fight themes but it does seem like he's going the route of 'more specific songs' this time around as >>2983686said. So we have a general fight theme and boss fight theme, and specific songs for special fights. Kinda a lot like JRPGs actually.>>2983690I can only seem to find the normal songs and 'enemy down' versions.
>>2983686Oh and here's another theory that's even less likely. So we have 'I Want to Live' right? Strange name, but since its a song with lyrics it makes more sense. And sometimes an instrumental version of it plays in camp.Now, also in the soundtrack, we have 'Wash my Pain Away'. Another strange name, but its instrumental and also plays in camp. I wonder if there will be a version of this song with lyrics?youtube.com/watch?v=LlwbAtGqzmANow, running with the theory of each character having their own song, I wonder who 'Wash My Pain Away' is about? It's hard to tell since there are no lyrics. If I had to guess its Shadowheart, since 'Washing my Pain Away' is similar to brainwashing which is what Shadow probably went through.But I could also just be wrong and this was just a cool song he composed.
>>2983625You paranoid schizos make me laugh. Stop living in your little bubble, psycho.
>>2983684The most generic shit I've ever heard. Sounds like some viking game for mobile.The vocal is also completely off, which doesn't make it sound like BG at all either.Jesus fucking christ, Larian is getting literally EVERYTHING wrong. Both as a BG game AND as a standalone.
>>2983625>>2983701Just for referncein b4 your schizo ass screans about shoop, because it's impossible people could actually disagree with you
>>2983704Well its better than any other Western games I can think of. And even the original BGs, while still alright, were quite boring at the end of the day. I'm surprised you call it generic. Have you listened to the rest of the soundtrack?
>>2983700That's some solid deduction. You might be right and this might really be Shadowhear's theme or could be triggered by certain quest or interaction like the tadpole waifu music. Lace your heart with mineLet your sleeping soul take flightTake me through the nightDown down down by the riverDown down down by the riverHanging moon in fogMist will lead where you belongSweep me off my feetDown down down by the riverDown down down by the riverDown down down by the riverInky EmbersSwirl and DanceJust leap the flames to take a chanceTo be with me tonightTake my handAnd hold it tight'Cause you and i are everywhere The night is youngWe going Down down down by the riverDown down down by the riverDown down down by the riverDont wake me upJust leave me there dreaming>now i wonder if there are any actual story spoilers in this songhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lFwy93rtnm0What i am also wondering is, is this the tadpole? Or is this whomever is hiding in the shadows and modifying the tadpole so it does not eat your brain right away.
>>2983709>I'm surprised you call it generic.It's the shitposter. You could've posted anything from the game and he would've called it either bad or generic. Give him some time and he will do his best to shit on every positive post in this thread. He has unnnatural hatred for the game. It's like Larian raped his ass raw and he is still butthurting.
>>2983704heres your (You)
>>2983710I don't know if dream waifu is the tadpole or the Netherese magic manipulating the tadpole. The lyrics are a lot vaguer for 'Down By the River'.Perhaps for comparison we can look at 'Divine's Lament' from DOS2. This song is basically the main theme of the game with lyrics. The lyrics are also quite cryptic, but they seem to have to do with a father and a son. Given that the final boss and main antagonist is Lucian, who is enemies with his son Damien, the song can be reflecting that.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jvdpJZ3l3kUIn conclusion, the lyrics to 'Down By the River' are probably very relevant to the story, but are much more cryptic than 'I Want to Live'.
>>2983721Could it be something as simple as the entity controlling the tadpole simply drawing you towards the city of Baldur's Gate? I mean...Baldur's Gate is literally down down by the river from where the nautiloid ship crashed, right?
>>2983625a paypiggy and a schizokeep seething
>>2983721I still have no fucking idea what does Nethrese magic have to do with tadpoles and Bhaal.But I assume Larian will give me an answer and ho, buy is that going to be nonsense.
I love playing this game so much. I might actually try drawing some fanart.
>>2983719Maybe you should stop setting your bar so low.>>2983709>Well its better than any other Western games I can think ofIt's not better than the original BG1/2 soundtracks. Nor is it even remotely exceptional compared to many more recent western ones.Larian ceased having good music in their games when the composer died after DOS1.Directly contrasting their prior composers work is like night and dayhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5XybrZGtxuUhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1NN4GVI_TAMhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RCak5hsyskULarian needs to stop hiring cheap shitty nobodies. Be it their writing or whatever, it's all supbar at best once they fully embraced hiring shitty D-list nobodies globally.
>>2984053>It's not better than the original BG1/2 soundtracks.It is miles better. Check youe ears.
>>2984053Kirill is good but so is Borislav. Don't be a contrarian.
>>2984061>It is miles better.Thanks for letting us know you're brain damaged. Let's us know you can be safely ignored.Thinking that the most generic sounding music possible is even good, is laughable. It's on par with those 5$ "RPG music packs" found on some asset store that some asset flipper uses.>>2984072> BorislavHe embodies everything that's bad with modern western music.The blandest, most soulless and forgettable trash.There's absolutely no fucking excuse they can make. Even if they want to call it "mood" music", fucking Fallout 1 &2 showed how that's done ages ago, so there's no excuse for making the equivalent of white noise. I seriously hate that hack drivel.
>>2983525>I'll assume there will be 10-12 at launch like in any other RPG, because as it stands it's a pretty poor companion rosterYou'll be disappointed. Larian lied about adding good companions.
>>2984099...OK bro. NGL you seem kinda unhinged, like did the guy kill your parents or something? It's crazy to me that you go on about him being generic, especially when earlier you said that his soundtracks are 'not even remotely exceptional compared to many more recent ones'.That's just crazy to me. Recent Western music has been very bad and generic.I assume you're just trolling because his music, even if you don't care for it, is really not generic. I doubt you've even listened to him.
>>2984124You seem completely fucking retarded. You're the kind of idiot that would think someone is angry just because they're swearing and calling someone a retard on 4chan.> It's crazy to me that you go on about him being generic, especially when earlier you said that his soundtracks are 'not even remotely exceptional compared to many more recent ones'.How did you interpret that? That I thought the music wasn't generic or was in fact good? You have atrocious reading comprehension. In the context here, you're the one that thinks his music is exceptional.This generic RPG music exemplifies just some of the issues with the "BG3" musichttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nN5AYO2QEdsIt sounds like the same shit. The kind of music you can't even remember 5 seconds after you heard it because it's completely devoid of identity and just falls into the background.Meanwhile, other ambient/mood music, even really old one, is not only more effective but sticks with youhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1cH8ZwL3A7QSo agian, they have no excuse.>Recent Western music has been very bad and generic.Yes and BG3 is literally precisely that. The fuck is wrong with you.
>>2984148>the schizo started writing his blogposts againYes anon, i am sure that people would care anough to read all of your crap LMAO!
>>2984153I accept your concession, close-minded toddler.Your response when met with argument, always, is to run away. Because you're incapable of challenging your ideas.Pathetic.
>>2984148>It sounds like the same shit.No it doesn't.Sorry, I think you're just trolling. Feel free to post recent Western games that you think are better.youtube.com/watch?v=AkPQ2HzbNMwI think you are just a schizo with a vendetta against a video game composer
>>2984158You're right, BG3 is in fact worse. It's literally white noisehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SDM53azRgl8It's tailor made to be forgettable and bland. That goes double for your example.The main issue is that he's in the camp of idiots that have been brainwashed that music should not stand out or be memorable. It should be white noise that creates a mood and nothing else.It's precisely the kind of shit you instantly mute and put on something better.When even literal nobodies do a better job, you know you fucked uphttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o8gvFAmSRhYhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CzK3z8MLSpAhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SnHxipNrLFIhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8QpUGCXwOksBut then you still have people like Jesper Kyd, Mick Gordon, etc.taking massive dumps on this BG3 hack.
>>2984204You're trying too hard. But thanks for consistently bumping the thread.
>>2984212And you're scared shitless to even try to open your mind to the idea that you could be wrong.But if you prefer to stroke my ego by cementing the fact that I'm correct, that's fine by me.Idiots like you only exist to make others look intelligent, after all.
>>2984204>>2984212Posting some more "white noise" youtube.com/watch?v=FK3120sQ5ewyoutube.com/watch?v=az_Gdq7qEw0youtube.com/watch?v=584DqXGmzHgyoutube.com/watch?v=0lrf9ySNYqgyoutube.com/watch?v=rkOESOfXkY0Please get your ears checked. There are plenty of composers whose job is to not stand out at all, but Bobby is not one of them. His music is horrible at being forgettable, considering that I always have them stuck in my head.youtube.com/watch?v=B5eMpv2JqFIyoutube.com/watch?v=2osctSaLLD8While the examples you posted are nice, I think Bobby's soundtracks are just more memorable and are composed better.
>>2984226Why on earth do you think I would be interested in more generic white noise? All they do is cement my point. i wouldn't even rank him as a C-lister.If anything it's just depressing to hear what a massive step down Larian's music is compared to when they had Kirill Pokrovsky compose for them.To top it all off, it sounds NOTHING like Baldurs Gate, which had very distinct sound.Which just futher hammers home that the game i just DOS with BG sticker on it. Larian doesn't give a fuck, they just want to make another DOS and have Wizards pay for it. Fucking shameful.
>>2984217Schizo/10 seek help. You're not the le epic troll you think you are.
Why do people love to exaggerate so much?
>>2984099The Fallout OST is just a giant pile of plagiarised music, though, so your example is retarded.
>>2980803>>2980803Is there a list of changes compared to base 5e? This might affect my decision.
>>2980803>what's your party gonna look like?Judging by what I've seen I'll be playing with a party of black lesbians to take.down the evil white wizard
>>2982349>multilayered >I hate my dad, men, religion, >I have a dark past>I sold my soul to a demon but lol no consequences
I've put over 100 hours in the EA and finished it multiple times with different class/race combinations. The amount of reactivity the game has is honestly astounding, the fact that they've achieved this will full VA and animated custscenes is seriously impressive and justifies it's long dev cycle.If BG3 can maintain a similar level of quality throughout the whole game I think it will go down as one of the greatest RPGs of all time.Of course faggot grogs on here and Codex will bend over backwards arguing otherwise, but their voices will be muted by the sheer praise the rest of the RPG community showers on Larian for their crowning achievement.
>>2983625>>2983705>>2983765The most brutal mogging of OP I have ever seen.No wonder he just ignored your posts, he was so wrong in his schizo-rant that he started denying reality.
I've put over 100 hours in Dragon Age: Inquisition and finished it multiple times with different class/race combinations. The amount of reactivity the game has is honestly astounding, the fact that they've achieved this will full VA and animated custscenes is seriously impressive and justifies it's long dev cycle.If Dragon Age: Inquisition can maintain a similar level of quality throughout the whole game I think it will go down as one of the greatest RPGs of all time.Of course faggot grogs on here and Codex will bend over backwards arguing otherwise, but their voices will be muted by the sheer praise the rest of the RPG community showers on Bioware for their crowning achievement.
>>2984578whats wrong with you? mommy never gives you attention while you were a child?
>>2984581Baldur's Gate III already sold millions of copies, anon. It's already a success, which is why the schizo ramblings on here are extra salty - they know they're screaming into the void.
>>2983730This isn't even the entire map, since both Candlekeep and characters living in Candlekeep have been datamined.
>>2984612We were talking about the song and how it relates to the map but i am surprised that by your words the map is even bigger. I mean the map is already massive.
>>2984611Just like Dragon Age: Inquisition.This means DA:I was a "good" game, right?
>>2984638Correct. It's a product meant to be sold. If it's popular and sold well, it means it served its function. Therefore, it's good.
>>2984643I rest my case.
>>2984263>The Fallout OST is just a giant pile of plagiarised music, though, so your example is retarded./vrpg/ should require a licence to post on, because the amount of ignorance here is incredible.The series had a lot of original music, from ambient to combat. They even flat out re-used it for games like New Vegas.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UkoA2iC7LCUhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=epI2tO2xLqI
>>2981008>The ruski paypigsWhy do people keep saying this shit about OwlCat when everything about them is western poz shit with westerners basically commanding everything.
>>2984226The Baldur's Gate 3 soundtrack is a masterpiece. I am not shitposting. I am not memeing. I love the soundtrack.
>>2984643>Therefore, it's good.That's not how it works. All it means is that it sold. If said sales were enough to be regarded as a success is up to the investors.Sales or amount of revenue has nothing to do with the quality of a game. The latest Pokemon game sold on name and marketing alone, despite being awful and incredibly broken and buggy. Countless mobile games get their money from psychological manipulation.
>>2984758My condolences. Severere sensorineural disability is tough to deal with.
The more i play this game the more it reminds me of Planescape:Torment. In a good way.
>>2984777Who do you dream of at night /vrpg/?
>>2984777>comparing this to planescape tormentThey're as far apart in terms of everything as you could possibly get.
>>2984802They are pretty close actually.
>>2984803>completely different narrative structure and hook>completely different style of music>completely different focus (planescape focuses on dialogue options and narrative)>completely different combat>completely different setting>completely different characters>completely different mechanical structure (you power up through dialogue, wisdom and remembering)>completely different tone and core message>list goes onYeah, almost identical.
>>2984760The goal of any product is to sell. The game sold well. Therefore it met its goal. Therefore it's good.
>>2984804>Yeah, almost identical.This but unironically.
>>2984810It's funny how you desperately try to equate to something being profitable with being good.Not surprising, since the game has no actual "good" qualities about it.In other words, you view every single product that is profitable to be of "good" quality (even if that's factually incorrect). Even if you hate it, you have to call it good.That's pretty fucking sad, man. Games like Diablo Immortal and worse must be masterpieces in your eyes.
>>2984758It's very good so far, but since the full game isn't out yet I wouldn't call it a masterpiece. It 's like the first act of a masterpiece. Which, hey, is exactly what EA is.Regardless, I'm very excited for future songs. I hope the official OST that comes with Digital Deluxe includes all the songs, because the DOS2 soundtrack didn't do that.
>>2984810You're such a fucking a tool.
>>2984226it's crazy how hard the japs mog western composers.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ydoUu2Y4uj8https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5ps-SDDug6Q
>>2984748Most of the tracks in the first two Fallout games are plagiarised from Apex Twins, Brian Eno, Techno Animal, Nijiumu, and a few others.
>>2984848Japanese game developers are even bigger plagiarists than Western ones.
>>2980882If I can't fuck the orc the game is trash.
>>2984870She's not an orc. She is a githyanki. Also you can fuck her or she can fuck you.
>>2984881I will now play your game.
>>2984792Somehow I always end up dreaming about drow girls.
>>2984886>Somehow I always end up dreaming about drow girls.That is why i think Larian's idea of giving the player control over how the ''dream waifu'' looks is a great idea on their part.
>>2984895QRD on what the Hell that "dream waifu" is? I haven't played the game yet, feel free to spoil me.
>>2984907you have a tadpole placed in your head that is slowly eating your brain, the waifu appears in your dreams and is enticing you to give in to your instincts which could be said tadpole trying to turn you into a mindflayer
>>2984907What he said >>2984907 something is messing with your brain and is appearing infront of you in the form of whatever your ''dream waifu'' is. But we are not sure if it is the tadpole itself or the thing that modified the tadpole.
>>2984915Sounds like Bhaal's Essence in Baldur's Gate II which disguises as Imoen/Irenicus/Sarevok in your dreams.So those leaks are true. We are a fucking Bhaalspawn.
>>2984919We'll see.I'm still wondering how they're going to work around including one of CHARNAME's possible love interests in the game
>>2984956They'll just have the character be CHARNAME'S descendant, not necessarily a son/daughter. That way the race of you and your parents isn't relevant.
>>2984919I mean the slayer models were datamined a long time ago so this was expected.
I will play as a lawful good human paladin and make a custom party with a bard moonlighting as a thief, a dwarf cleric, and an elven wizard. I will tell all of the NPCs to fuck off.Fun fact, running 4 instances of BG3 in the early access to make a custom party is the only time I’ve used more than 16gb RAM :V
damn I was just looking at the light domain cleric and they get access to great fire spells like scorching ray and fireball. Are they better than wizards? you get access to all the other great cleric spells and you can wear medium armor and use shields
>>2984866Sure they are. Good thing western composers still get mogged all day.>>2984915>tadpoleI still can't believe how that shit was even greenlit.The tadpole and how they wrote it has got to be the dumbest fucking things I have EVER seen in a videogame.Who is responsible for that shit? I need a name so I can blacklist their supid ass.
>>2985003Well if you make a Shield Dwarf Wizard you can wear medium armor too and since this is 5e wizards can wear armor without losing the ability to cast spells as long as they are proficient with said armor. I wouldn't say that one class is better than the other. Both can be a lot of fun.
>>2984971... why is there a slayer in this game? If this is correct>We are a fucking BhaalspawnThe devs deserve to be dragged out onto the streets and shot.
>>2985012what's the problem?It's Baldur's Gate 3
>>2985012>>We are a fucking BhaalspawnActually all of them(the origin characters) and the custom character are Bhaalspawns.>inb3 what do you mean?All of those characters can be the main character. So it stands to reason that they are all Bhaalspawns. This game will be a wild ride, August can't come soon enough.>a ton of Bhaalspawns end up together on a nautiloid>coincidence
Can you create and hire your own party members from the tavern like in previous games?
>>2985021We don't know. So far we've only played act 1 and not even all of act 1 since they'll be adding more stuff for the full release.
>>2985016>they already chose the tadpole as their narrative gimmick>the bhaalspawn narrative was neatly tied up in BG2:ToB, but now countless years later they will basically retcon it, just to add another gimmick because they have no imagination>they can't top anything you did prior, nor explore some other interesting angle, because of the prior gamesThis reeks of hack writing. Like how 70% through development they realized what the game was called, quickly googled Baldur's Gate and took notes on the most notable things>ok minsc is popular>ok so there's this jaheira character too>oh, it's about you being a bhaalspawn? ok, didn't know thatAnd after a few more notes they just dumped it all into DOS3 so they could legally call it Baldur's Gate 3 and finger waggle any "fans" that told them it's "not Baldurs Gate".I didn't think my lack of respect for Larian could sink any lower, but lo and behold.
>>2985020>Actually all of them(the origin characters) and the custom character are Bhaalspawns.This just went from bad, to just pathetic and sad.
>>2985024>>2985027being a bhaalspawn in 2023 sounds based as fuck. I just bought another copy of BG3 on my alternate steam account. cope, seethe, and dilate anti-larian trannies
>>2985024the bhaalspawn narrative was very hastily tied up in Throne of Bhaaland it still left more questions than it answered, like Draconis being a second generation bhaalspawn and also a fully grown dragon
>>2985021You can start a multiplayer game, launch multiple instances of the game, have each instance join your game and create a character, then save the game and from then on play it single player. Then you have a custom party. I did this in EA just like DOS2.
>>2985034Pigs need their pig slop, don't let me stop you.
>>2985051I'm sure it will all be integrated, expanded upon and concluded in a very satisfying manner. Larian have the absolute best writers in the biz, after all.
>>2985008Yes, they're "mogging" Western OSTs so much they have to steal from them. Your animoo games will always be the domain of trannies, coomers, and arrested development manbabies.
>>2985067>the hill you choose to die on is plagiarization as the ultimate defence of western devs making better music (which they don't)
>>2985051Just this one fact makes ToB an extremely unsatisfactory ending. In some epilogues CHARNAME has multiple children, who in turn are automatically Bhaalspawn themselves. Even if you take into account that 10% of Bhaalspawn had children - which in a Mediaeval society is a very conservative estimate - you'll have Bhaalspawn running around the Realms. Not to mention that the whole idea of "Godspawn" is nothing new - just look at the Chosen of Mystra, they're the exact same thing.
>>2985027No, the anon is wrong. According to leaks, only the Baldurian Custom Origin will be one.
>>2985051So where exactly is this thread going then? Are they going to recycle that the protag in BG3 is the actual real inheritor of Bhaal?I fail to see at all how any of this would be relevant or add to the game.
>>2985073Cry more. You will never be a real woman, just as they will never be real soundtracks.
>>2985078>OriginIt's funny to me how the devs kept going on about creating a true tabletop D&D experience, but then still have Origins.Because nothing makes me think of tabletop D&D more than the time the DM forced everyone to play his OC characters instead of making their own, otherwise the DM would lock out certain things in his campaign.
>>2985080Well, Larian has said that the game has three main antagonists. Doesn't take a genius to figure out each of them will be a champion of one of the Dead Three. From the leaks/datamines, it appears being a Bhaalspawn will be the personal story of a Custom Origin, and will also serve as nostalgia bait/resolution of CHARNAME's story. "A Murder in Baldur's Gate" is 10 years old, and since that time more and more elements of it have been retconned, to the point I don't think it's canon anymore.
>>2985085Oh I'm crying alright. Of laughter. That's the saddest and most desperate attempt to claim western composers are better. Not that their actual music is better, oh no. But because of this logical fallacy of plagiarization like some twittertranny.You're not even aware that you're indirectly admitting that the western composers produce worse music, which is the funniest part and why I'm laughing so hard.
>>2985096So not only a trannie, but stupid as well. Keep seething.
>>2985099Thanks for being this threads dedicated embarrassing court jester. We all need people like you to laugh at.
>>2984777>>2984792I really like the character creator. You can make some really nice looking characters with it.
>>2985103I told you to get a tripcode.
>>2984848You might not believe me since I spent so much time defending Borislav, but I agree with you. The best composers are Uematsu and Soken.My super duper never gonna happen pipe dream is that Bobby and Soken collaborate on the Baldur's Gate 3 expansion/ Baldur's Gate 4 soundtrack. Never gonna happen, but still.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ascfjJXDWjo
>>2980803Heterosexual chad (virgin) here. Is the pic related elf-girl, a virtious virgin girl that's literally for me (my self-insert player character)? I will play the game for her alone if she is. I hope it's not cuckshit that subverts expectations like other modern CRPGs.
>>2985411>Is the pic related elf-girl, a virtious virgin girl that's literally for me (my self-insert player character)?Yes.
>>2985411>hope it's not cuckshitshe flirts with a black guy, and says she "has someone waiting for her in Baldur's Gate"
>>2985430Thank you, you made my day. I rest easy knowing that the pretty goth elf girl will be my virtious wife and lose her virginity to my self-insert.>>2985436-ACK ....It's over. The west has fallen.
>>2985411She's the only party member who doesn't jump into bed with you at the end of act one, because she wants to take it slowShe's in also in a weird cult though.
>>2985436>>2985438But she rejects the same black guy after she sees him flirting with the other girl in the party
>>2985444I'm getting conflicting info... is this guy lying? >>2985430
Oh no, the anti-Larian schizo was already here, and now the cuck schizo has arrived.
>>2985447She doesn't have sex with you right away, because she is a shy virgin girl who wants to take it slow.
...leaker here. I'm really glad I didn't lurk here more, seeing the kind of individuals that are now crawling through these threads. Just to remind people who haven't got the message yet:>Evil Companions: Astarion, Shadowheart, Lae'zel, Wyll>Neutral Companions: Jaheira, Gale, Helia, Jan Jansen>Good Companions: Minsc, Delina, Krydle, <won't spoil>Those are the "default" companions. There are some alternative/hidden ones (if you don't get X, you won't get Y).
>>2985464I meant about her saying "she has someone waiting for her in Baldur's Gate".
>>2985468Drats, I meant "if you don't get X, you'll get Y.">>2985469Her sister.
>>2985470WE ARE SO BACK. THE WEST IS RISING AND I'LL BE REPOPULATING IT WITH SHADOWHEART
>>2985468Thanks leakerbro. The threads have been quite bad, yes.I can't think of anything else to ask you, as I doubt you will reveal any more story spoilers.Anyone have any ideas?
>>2985469all she says is there's a person waiting for her in baldurs gateit's probably another member of her religious order, since she's on a fetch and deliver mission for them when we meet her
>>2985488What is her cult about? I hope Shadowheart doesn't cannibalize children, but I would probably forgive her even that as long as she's pure.
>>2985436>you took wyll with youHonestly you deserve worse.
Anyone else planning to play Shadowheart and ride Wyll's BBC when this comes out?
>>2985468>spoils unheard of companions but suddenly goes "<won't spoil> teehee :)">missed karlach completely in his rush to type fake shitAway with you LARPer.
>>2985492she worships Shar, an evil goddess of darkness and secretsThough its implied she may have been unwillingly abducted and indoctrinated by Shar Worshippers
>>2985581>playing a female charThat's super gay.
Did they say there's an area level cap (before Moonrise) in release? I kind of lost momentum once I maxed out
>>2985468> <won't spoil>I can't believe there are people that believe this moron.
>>2985468>no Karlacheither her role was reduced or this poster is LARPing
>no romance in StarfieldLooks like Shadowheart's Gate 3 won months before either of them release.
>>2985468>Shadowheart>evil companion>her big plot twist is already datamined and blows that out of the waterStop fucking LARPing you retard. No one is buying it anymore.
>>2985877So what you're saying is that Viconia in Baldur's Gate II, or Kanerah, Regongar, and Jaethal in Pathfinder: Kingmaker, are not counted as Evil companions?Anon, I know you have a schizophrenic meltdown on this thread currently, but:1. Get a tripcode.2. Get a brain.
>>2985723>>2985747>>2985800>>2985820How much can you samefag, you schizo? Unironically calm down and leave 4chan for a time, what you're doing is not healthy.
>>2985747Oh, sorry, included you by accident.
>>2985881>redditor keeps asking for anons to get a tripcode because he can't grok posting styleslol
>>2985881If the characters change their entire fucking alignment mid-game like Shadowheart will likely do when you break the Shar conditioning, yeah. She's not really counted as an evil companion. Why are you so fucking stupid?
>>2985891First of all - "if". Secondly, I highly doubt this will be a forced choice, and you will probably be able to keep her in service to Shar.Why are you pretending not to understand simple concepts? Pretending to be an idiot is worse than being one.>>2985888>grokI think your brain is breaking even more, Mr. Schizo.
>>2985895>>2985891And no, no one segregates companions' alignments according to what it MIGHT change into.
>>2985895>doesn't know grok>can't google itlol, you truly are a stranger in a strange land, eh?
>>2985896If it's an option for what you might have her alignment at, based off of the choice, why are you only putting her in evil then?
>>2985883Take your meds moron. The ''leaker'' is a fucking larp and you're a double moron for 1, believe that some dumbfuck copypasting codex leaks is a legit leaker, and 2, defending his autistic ass after people legitimately call him out on his garbage ''leaks''. What's up with Larian threads and attracting newfag redditors ?
>>2985468>WyllI know he's a Warlock who sold his soul to a demon, but I thought that with him using the powers to go around saving people he'd at least be neutral.
>>2985468Wait, wait, wait, previously, you kept claiming that Helia won't be a companion. Now you claim she is. Also you forgot about Karlach.You are a LARPer, aren't you?
>>2985877I mean, Shadowheart is a FUCKING SHARRAN.This makes her evil by default. Normal, well-adjusted people don't willingly join the murdercult.
>>2985979>>2985946Why do you people think that the post with the companions' list is made by the same guy who claimed to be a leaker?The guy from the previous threads outright said he wouldn't confirm any non-revealed companions beyond Delina and Krydle.
If she were good she'd be named Lightheart, not Shadowheart. Checkmate retards.
>>2985914The RPG Codex leaker was legit.1. Posted most of his stuff within a week the game was even announced.2. The vast majority of it panned out.3. His posts were deleted by the admins of the site, something which they never usually do, so SOMETHING must've convinced them to do it.
How long is the game going to be on release? Will it be comparable to stuff like TW3, TES5, DOS2?
>>2985984Also claimed that there's one more companion returning from the previous game, but that his reveal wouldn't make the people on here (?) happy.
>>2985984I didn't say I trust in the leaks, just that I wouldn't call Wyll evil based on what we know about him.
>>2985986Shadowheart is a really fucking stupid name. She sounds like a Care Bears villain.But it's Larian, so I don't know what I was expecting.
>>2986006It's peak fiction.
Sexheart
>>2986004Maybe his story will be the reverse of Shadowhearts' - you can drive him further down into evil? After all, he made a literal deal with a devil. You shouldn't get to just walk away from that.
>>2986006As opposed to Lionheart, or Braveheart?
>>2986029Braveheart wasn't the Wallace's name, it's a title of the movie. And Lionheart was just the suffix of the Richard I of England. That he himself didn't even use.
FUCK I WANT TO HAVE PREMARITAL SINNER SEX WITH SHADOWHEART AND I WANT TO HOLD HER HANDS WHILE I CREAMPIE HER AND IMPREGNATE HER WITH A HUMAN BABY.
>>2986046>PREMARITAL SEXcringe
>>2986046You do realize that after you fuck her she then has the obligation before her goddess to legally murder you and then eat her baby, because that's how Sharrans work? Love and attachments are bullshit and are punishable by death as per Shar's dogma.Blame Larian for making the companion the follower of a stupid evil godess.
can you actually fix her with your cock?because if you can't dick her so hard she denounces her goddess and becomes at least Neutral alignment, what's the point?
>>2986050Just be chad bro. Women will literally change their religion, personality, looks, character, anything for chad. I hope BG3 will be accurate in this regard and just let me "persuade" her with my max cha chad character.
>>2986053I mean, you can try, but keep in mind that in FR gods are real. Trying to fuck with Shar's follower will probably end poorly for you. Shar is a batshit goddess that will just murder her and you and that's it.
>>2986032Braveheart was Robert Bruce's title IRL.
>>2986053>Women will literally change their religion, personality, looks, character, anything for chad.No, they will act in front of him as if they did.
>>2986051She's so cute, I want to put my dick on her face and smear precum all over it!!!!!!!!
>>2986006(love)heart
>>2985986Are we expecting her to betray us bigtime somewhere down the story?
>>2986079No, she'll change her name to Vanillasexandmarriageheart and then she'll marry (Me). It's a bit on the nose but you know what Larian's like, haha..
>>2980803>either Monk or Bard (mimicking my latest few D&D campaign pcs>Shadowheart, Karlach & Wyll (Wizard utility could be nice, but I found warlock to be pretty good here)There are probably other companions who won't be Origins/tadpole infected characters, so it's up in the air for any switch up really. Won't need Asterion to have a lockpick/dexfag as I'll fill that role for the party. I just hope that they'll make the Trickery Cleric channel divinity more similar to what it is in the ttrpg because as of now it really sucks compared to making a clone of yourself that can cast spells within it's own reach
>>2986082Will you become evil if this is the only way to keep Shadowheart?
>>2986086Yes. I'm only playing the game for Shadowbutt. I'll try to be a goodchad and convert her, but ultimately I'll be evil for her if necessary.
>>2986087Based and correct
>>2986087Based and simppilled!
Sensual blowjobs with Shadowheart... smearing Shadowheart's makeup all over her face with my cum.... uoh.... shadowbutt...
>>2986062based actually
well... you know what to dohttps://litter.catbox.moe/1axzpq.mp4
>>2986175Lawful Good Paladin on the left
>>2986175>not posting the nyl2 one where she is getting fucked by a bunch of futasI am disappointed in you anon.
It's annoying that Paladins don't get to choose their god in the character creator like Clerics do.Hopefully that's something they change in the full release.
>>2986249They aren't bound to deities in the base 5e so I doubt it.
>>2986262Yeah, i'm not exactly sure how those paladin oaths work.
>>2986285In 5e you don't really worship any gods, you just get hung up on an abstract idea. Like the Paladin of Ancients is so fixated on pursuit of happines it gives them superpowers. The same goes for Paladin of Vengeance being fixated on LARPing as Batman.Technically, the same thing applies to clerics as well, in 5e domain is more important than a god, so a cleric can worship a given domain, without giving a fuck about a deity who is in charge of this domain. So you just warship the concept of war without even caring about Tempus.It's the modern times, you see.
>>2986289But there are still gods in the world and i am guessing that some gods are more in favor of certain oaths and cetrain domains. At least that would be logical or at least would be better for roleplaying purposes. I mean can you imagine if Shadowheart was of the light or life domain? That would not fit. thankfully Larian are at least trying to make things logical even if WotC want everything to be a mess.
>>2986051>people will unironically player with the default party membersThey are so shit and terribly written that I almost though Larian was trolling me. But then I just realized they have no writing talent.
>>2986296>I mean can you imagine if Shadowheart was of the light or life domain?Have you missed the part where during CC you can pick Shar/Bane/Bhaal/Lolth AND the Life domain and nobody bats an eye? And that's something Larian actually homebrewed, because even in 5e you need to stick to the deity's proper domain.
>>2986314Give us an example of what you think is a well-written rpg character.
>>2986315>talking about custom characterYou can also put a beard on your female custom character! I'm so triggered right now! I'm literally funing! You can make the skin of your custom human character purple! REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE! I'm going to seethe so hard! REEEEEEEEEEEEEE! Are you telling me that my custom character can be a mess of my choosing? I will never accept this!!!!! Larian is the worst developer yall! fr fr
>>2986341It's kinda insane how Larian fans manage to be even more embarrassing than Larian themselves. Have you read your post ? No wonder you guys eat up anything Larian shits up.
>>2986341If you don't realize how absolutely idiotic picking a Life domain for a Lolth cleric is, I don't know what to tell you, man. I wish the game actually penalized you for it.
>>2986323Anon, don't reply to him. It's one schizo who haunts every single Larian game thread and serves as our bumping bitch with his ramblings.
>>2986362>AugustoCSP wants his character to be mounted and double penetrated by a twindong half-reptile in the game's legit non-mod porn cut-scenesI will say AugustoCSP has style
https://i.4cdn.org/gif/1678805740954665.webmI want to do this with Shadowheart. Will Larian add a scene like this to the game?
>>2986262>>2986289that's what it says in the players handbook but that's not how divine magic is supposed to work in the Forgotten Realms setting.The "paladin" you meet in this game is supposedly a paladin of Tyr, too.
>>2986580>Will Larian add a scene like this to the game?If you think any AAA game will have dev made hard porn then you're very optimistic.
BG3 won't have mountable animal companions, I assume? It's too cool in WotR, I think it's growing on me.
>>2986362>Gale is the most similar to myself I imagine this man has an image of himself that does not match up to reality considering he's a redditor. King neckbeard of soiland with over 20,000 karma is not an intellectual savant for arguing with strangers on the internet while tribalizing and purposefully misunderstanding his adversary's arguments. Lacking the knowledge of how to shave and take care of yourself doesn't make you look burly, you need to properly groom your beard in order for it to look impressive.
>>2986588It's coming, sooner or later. BG3 will already have fully animated, with motion capture, softcore porn scenes. Within the next few years some studio will bite the bullet and release an "adult RPG" featuring full on "hardcore" porn.
>>2986974Larian are well known for being the based Belgian coomer dev. They always manage to sneak in sex and skimpy armors in their games. I feel that they are probably the best dev for making RPGs that give that old sword and sorcery feel from the 80s. Them and probably CDPR since they are the only other dev not afraid of sex, skimpy clothes or even nudity. All other developers are fucking puritan faggots.>Starfield has zero nudity or romance>Obsidian games are full on faggotry in recent yearsI guess Owlcat but their games are mostly text and battles and there are no skimpy armors or even skimpy portraits, they should've learned from Icewind Dale and at least given us some good portaits and skimpy attire.
>>2986592Maybe not. I don't think that was a thing in Baldurs gate. The mounted companions got added into Wotr because they made it a tier goal in their kickstarter.
What was their endgame?
>>2986974>BG3 will already have fully animated, with motion capture, softcore porn sceneswhy? They could easily have a setup an alternative RTwP system with the resources this would take. It's fucking DISGUSTING shit for DISGUSTING coombrain redditor fatties. I hate this faggot world.
>>2987204Sure let's task mocap artists and 3D animators to design a RTwP system to make 45 autists happy, RTwPtards are irrelevant.
>>2987177>phoneposting codexfagnobody cares
>>2986587>but that's not how divine magic is supposed to work in the Forgotten Realms setting.I don't think Larian nor WotC care very much. WotC can casually retcon 30 years of worldbuilding so that they can pander to the trannies.
>>2986587But he is not a paladin of Tyr, he is an imposter.
>>2987149>starfieldIn bethesda's defense, they have never really included coomer shit in any of their games.They just make it so that their players can easily add it for them.
>>2986289That's fucking retarded and makes no sense.No wonder people hate 5e
>>2987217The point is that he claims to be a paladin or Tyr, not just a generic warrior of goodnessThis reestablishes the precedent that Paladins are religious, and that it is prevalent enough to be a convincing cover story.
>>2987172I hope it will become a precedent that shows it can be done nicely.Probably will have hart time against balancefags that believe anything OP should be nerfed.
>>2987235Are you saying the Paladins can't be tied to a temple just cus reasons? What are you even talking about? Are you confused?
>>2987232It's retardedAnd it causes issues for Forgotten Realms because Wizards insist that it's the default campaign setting now.
>>2987209Wait the fuck, Baldur's Gate 3 is turn-based?Fuck.captcha: HAKGAY
>>2987241I'm saying Paladins in this campaign setting have literally always been in service to a god. That is the source of their holy power.
>>2986289>>2987232>>2987242fuck too
>>2987246They still get their power from the divine. Just this time it is the divine order not just a single divinity. That's how i understand it. I mean even gods obey the divine order and are constrained to their seats of power.
>>2987246I think it now works the way that paladins are tied to some cause, it probably can still be specific deities (probably quite often) but can also be other stuff that falls under the oath you took.Example from Oath of Law:>The Oath of the Crown is sworn to the ideals of civilization, be it the spirit of a nation, fealty to a sovereign, or service to a deity of law and rulership.So a deity is an option, but not the only one.
>>2987255>Example from Oath of Law:*Oath of the Crown as specified below
>>2986289This isn't entirely correct, if you're playing a Paladin in the Forgotten Realms setting then you're supposed to be worshiping a Deity in order to obtain your powers. If you're playing in any other setting it depends.The part about cleric is completely wrong on the other hand, no matter what you're worshiping a specific Deity but when you choose the mechanical benefits for doing that you pick a Domain. If you fail to pick a Domain that fits your Deity it's on you.Next time read the book and you may avoid to look like a retard spewing nonsense.
>>2987255You don't get magical powers from fealty. If that was the case, every soldier loyal to their king would be a paladinThere has to be a divine benefactor involved that's empowering the paladin
>>2987177bro talk about taking things too seriously
So will the game be as long as bg1 or 2?
>>2987261Xanathar's Guide to Everyting, page 18. "Serving a Partheon, Deity of Force".Also, as >>2987255 pointed out, paladins are no longer required to worship a deity. Also, don't give lectures about the cosmology of Forgotten Realms when Mordenkainen's Tome of Foes deliberately torpedoes all D&D cosmology.
Based on the Early Access, interviews and leaks, I think that each of the Origin Characters, as well as the Custom Origin, will be a "Godspawn" - each will carry the essence of a deity, hence why their tadpoles are "special":>Gale - Chosen of Mystra - this one is already confirmed>Custom Origin - Bhaalspawn - based on the datamines and leaks, all seems to point to the fact it'll be CHARNAME's descendant>Shadowheart - I am almost certain the big twist will be she's actually a chosen of Selune of some kind, and carries her goddess's essence,Etc. etc.This would also explain why they're mixing in "regular", non-Origin companions.
>>2987355>paladins are no longer required to worship a deity
>>2987424>Most paladins in the Forgotten Realms, like clerics, are devoted to a particular deity."Most" != "Every"
>>2987438https://www.sageadvice.eu/does-a-paladin-need-to-serve-a-god-deity/tl;dr: fuck off retard
>>2987346Probably longer. Leaker said 150 hours if you want to believe him.
>>2987488Given that, other than the Mind Flayers and the Absolute, there are three additional main antagonists (champions of the Dead Three), I can believe that.
>>2984907The "deam waifu" is a honey trap it's the tadpole in your brain.If you never use the ilithid powers she never shows up but if you use them she is there in tge dream sequence.She never showed up for me cuz i'm NOT helping that parasite grow and i'm noz giving in either.
>>2987536I wonder if there will be a bad ending where we fully turn into a squid.
>>2985024Actually Wizards of the Coast are the ones who retconned that stuff.
>>2987424Are you quoting SCAG?This book is already non-canon. Not only it wasn't written by WotC but by Red Ronin, but also books like Mordenkainen's Tome of Foes and Descent into Avernus contradict 90% of it.
>>2982473Haven't played in years, lets see whom I memberPc party: IfanSebilleRed princeBard girl possessed by demonDwarf pirateSkelleton fag written by everyone's favourite faggot writerRandom NPC's:Blood witch from cavePirate skeleton bossDwarf queenThat absolute faggot alexanderThe one gay (literally) paladin from arx
>>2988050coomerbros this is our year
>>2981081> dark past, a hidden agenda, and a secret master,I fucking hate these tropes. Also, is Halsin a companion yet?
>>2988206He's a romance confirmed, and they have added in lines about how the Grove says he's past his prime and that they need someone new. Also added in lines about him not wanting his arch druid title anymore. All the signs of him being a full blown companion but there's no confirmation still.
>>2980836Just a proof that RPGs should have generic white male as a protagonistIts what 90% of players play anyway and it allows to better build the backstory and character of the main character.
>>2988223Isn't he currently fucking Jaheira?
>>2988223>>2988293This doesn't make sense, since then you'd have three Druid companions (Jaheira, Halsin, Helia). Unless the leaker was right, and companions are exclusive (if you get X, you can't get Y).
>>2981081I told you to get a tripcode, you schizo. You've been trying the game argument on the past thread, and someone else BTFO'd you.
>>2988306I assumed the (if you get x, you can't get y) was right, since that's how it is in the original baldurs gate games.
>>2988365Technically, it wasn't a thing in the original BG games. You could recruit anyone you wished, but the conflicting companions would eventually come to blows, unless your charisma score was high enough.
>>2988368This also isn't correct. Keldorn would always go after Viconia, no matter your Charisma, for example.
>>2987591>Actually Wizards of the Coast are the ones who retconned that stuff.They also have shit writers and the "canon" books of the games are infamously shit.Last I heard this same dogshit writer is working on BG3.
>>2988517You heard that the noname author of the Baldur's Gate novelisations from 25 years ago is working on Baldur's Gate 3?
>>2988230Ok todd, now finish skyrim 2Also main character should have no backstory of personality, because he's either me or whatever I feel like make him at the moment.And they can't just make me mc of every game because then losers like you could not relate.
>>2988306Helia is a bard.
>>2988582Are we even sure that Helia is the halfling bard we're getting? For all we know Helia is just a pseudonim for Alfira used by the devsin the game documents. The dataminers could be wrong. Especially since ''Helia?Hell?Tiefling?''.
>>2988206That's 80% of one of my ttrpg player characters backstory.Always the same shit, pure edge, still a good player but some new characters background ideau would be nice
>>2988657>Are we even sure that Helia is the halfling bard we're getting?Gnome bard. And yes, I'm sure. Helia is her actual name.https://twitter.com/chubblot/status/1601237430614773762And if you don't want to use twitter:https://files.catbox.moe/xao6tw.mp4
>>2988522Anon, literally all of the writers at Larian are no-name literal who's devoid ot talent.This is partially because no one of actual talent would ever want to work at Larian and their waterfall structure.
>>2988683Well, some of them are Kotaku ex-journalists.
>>2980933>Neverwinter Nights spinoffAll were great except the Dove. Her autism at the wall didn't have a proper set-up, if I remember right. Played long time ago, so maybe it's just a memory fart.
>>2984752>western poz shitWhile you might be technically correct, the actual pathfinder game and community is so fucking woke and gay that Kingmaker has no right being as good as it was (haven't played their Wrath game yet though), so pretty odd people would shit on it that often here. Then again, this board is same 10 people shit-posting in circles.
>>2988683I'd rather you just admit that believing Larian would hire Philip Athans specifically to work on Baldur's Gate 3 is beyond retarded
>>2988657>>2988681It's possible or even probable she's been cut at this point, considering much of her story stuff seems to have been repurposed for Halsin
>>2990744There was some dialogue Chubblot found in December where Astarion talks about Helia, it might be just leftover but I'm not sure about her anymorehttps://twitter.com/chubblot/status/1601237430614773762?
