Alright, I'm gonna fucking do itLet's see if the hype is worth it
why would you start a series from the middle
>>2979322Prepare for KINO
>>2979325Yeah, like you started with Dragon Warrior or fucking Arenasure buddy
Waitit was literally a meme that no one died in this shit, I swear I heard it a fucking dozen timesDid no one actually play the game lmao?
>>2979351>he fell for the discord raidanon...
>>2979351People just shitpost yes.
Good luck, Anon-kun! Me and my shining bonds will be with you.
>>2979322reanposting is not even a thing anymore bruh
They spent a *lot* more time on animating her tits going up and down than on her speaking
>>2979322Anon you're literally starting in the middle, play Trails in the Sky first, or at least watch the cutscenes.
>>2979351Surely there will be no bullshit like time travel haha.
>>2979397>play Trails in the Sky firstMost people dropped the series here since you retards suggest the worst game in the series as starting point.
>>2979402This. CS is a fine starting point and a better entry game for the average gamer. >>2979397 is just an autist.
Why is the one guy who's trying to be my friend the token gay? Get me the tall guy with the tattoos back>>2979397I've already bought the game man, we're going with Rean
>>2979402Not everyone agrees that is the worst. I liked the sky games way more than the cold steel games for example. If I had started with CS, I probably wouldn't even bother with the earlier games.
>>2979351They're just sleeping.
Just like in one of my animes!The Dandere seems legit though
>>2979429>the token gay?There are no gays in Cold Steel. Every guy except Machias gets at least 1 qt gf (Gaius gets two).
>>2979443The dandere is one of the best characters in CS thankfully. Not only does she get consistent screentime and development, she's also one of the most strongest units later on.
>>2979455Laura and Fie are best girls, even if their CS1 arc is completely retarded.
>>2979465>Try to unga bunga boss by opening with Laura's S-craft and setup >Die to the boss' S-craft>Try to optimise a bit to survive the boss' S-craft>Doesn't work>Let Laura wait a turn so she doesn't bonk the boss to <50% HP in one hit, triggering his S-craft>It worksShe's just too strong for her own good.
>>2979443this is the right attitude when getting into this seriesAlso talk to everyone on campus whenever you advance the time, or at least the students and teachers. Especially Mint and Makarov because they're the best
Okay so like...This is meant to be obvious, right? How surprised am I supposed to be when she inevitably reveals this 30 hours in>>2979446Dude his ass is fucking huge. It's right there all the time. He is absolutely designed to be a twink>>2979455Nice
>>2979540>is that young male character YOUNG? HOLY FUCK HE MUST TAKE DICKSCanon straight, gets laid on the last night of CS4 with prime loli mechanic pussy.
>>2979322Looks like a gay ass game where the only pvp to be had are lolis pegging each other and crying in corners with their shithole bleeding. Holy shit you fucking weeb kys
>>2979544>where the only pvpwhy are you here, go erp with korean ladybois on runescape or counterstrike or something
>>2979546Go play Diablo 2 resurrected like a fucking man onions boy
>>2979546Any RPG with a fucking cute tag on steam is gonna get you flamed faggot. I personally can't believe people pay 40 bucks for that excuse of a game
>>2979455Yeah I love the part in CS1 where she... can't fix a truck... what a useful character.
>>2979322I hope you downloaded a clear save file and picked max bonding points, anon.
>>2979402Sky is the best part of the series though, every arc is worse than the previous one
>>2979649Who's even useful in CS1? Jusis I guess? Gaius is just a wind detector at that point and Emma's still durdling in the background doing nothing.
>>2979402most people are fucking retarded, not my problem
>>2979551>diablo 2>like a fucking manCareful not to let that Cheeto dust fall from your neckbeard onto the keyboard.
>>2980204Fap to more loli faggot sissy boy
>>2979681just spam delay attack with rean
>>2980326He means in story. Obviously the answer is ......Fie....Laura - Rean -whoever (usually Jusis, Alissa or Emma)
>>2979322It's irredeemable trash. If you like shovelware during the PSP era, you'll be very familiar with that series.
>>2979540Yeah it's meant to be obvious. Every arc has a party member who's connected to a big tech company because it's important for the setting. You can read the library if you want some lore dumps.
>>2979322I'm not paying 40 bucks for a game that's 6 years old and I don't feel like pirating the gog version.
>>2979335dragon warrior takes like 2 hours to beat why would you not beat it
>>2979322I enjoyed CS1 but CS2 was a steep drop in quality/pacing/progression right from the start. Liked the battle system and OSTs, which is more than I can say for the Sky trilogy. CS2 was such a drag that I never bothered with 3 & 4 and have given up on the series. 1 pretty fun game out of 5 ain't it.
>>2980726you read that wrong. It's not that you don't play Dragon Warrior at all, it's that it's not going to be the first DQ that you play
>>2980731I read it just fine, it takes 2 hours to beat and was on the game boy, I'm positive it was a lot of people's first and maybe even only. You're fucking delusional if you think otherwise. Arena you have a point. No one ever played arena
>>2980727CS2 is my 2nd least fav game in the series. It has some cool stuff in there but a lot of it was missed opportunities and filler. 3 and 4 are way better imo.
>>2980745>3 and 4 are way betterAnd way longer from what I've read. CS2 was already too long before it had gotten to the first fake ending, nevermind the next two. It was even longer than the abysmal Sky 2 ffs. Sky1/CS1 being in the 40 hour range put that at the tip of what I generally find to be acceptable jrpg length. Anything longer that isn't a replay completionist playthrough just drags my opinion of them further and further down.
>>2980727>Shits in Sky’s OSTRetard take anon
>>2979335I started with Arena.
I asked him about Estelle and told him I felt bad for Joshua. What did haha man mean by this?
>>2979325I started the series with Cold Steel 1 & 2. I was really into them. I tried to get into trails in the sky before I started CS3. I really tried but I'll be honest Sky FC is fucking boring. In the same way that CS 1 is but CS1 has charm and is basically a harem anime so it being garbage is expected and I enjoyed it because of that. I don't feel like I get anything trying to play the games that came before. It's not as if the games don't recap stuff for you anyways to the point that you can get stuff with context clues. Hell, not knowing anything for the Erebonia stuff probably enhanced the experience because I was as clueless as the characters when shit was happening and it was more immersive that way
Are these worth trying if I disliked Trails in the Sky? The world-building in particular was pretty disappointing given how much people hype up that aspect of it.
>>2982400Kiseki is like Dragon Quest. If you don't like one, you won't like any, as they're all the same.
Okay, I got some time rn, hopefully gonna finish the intro dungeon at leastSorta provocative choice of words desu
Neat - a choiceI'm gonna side with Machias, because even if he's a hypocrite and a half, when he's not talking about social issues he seems alright, and he has a gun which is cooler than a 4th sword person
Awww that's cute, they all came together to do the thing.Decent first boss too - lots of area attacks, pushes people around, and changes forms + weaknesses so you have to switch up what you're doing, though it's not like "stacking Rean and Elliot's buffs" wasn't working either way
Initial Opinions on the People ->BestFie - by far the most entertainingTeacher - whose VA is putting in more work than everyone else combined>GoodElliot - Better than I was expecting, and the DEF+Regen is really usefulGaius - seems like the most reasonable person and isn't a manlet>EhRean - alright, but like - he switches between being super extra and having 20 layers of secrets, which is a lotSword Girl - I just have very little to base anything onAlexis - was good for like the 10 seconds before she started Tsun-ing so that counts for somethingMachias - just ... chill man>RoughJusis - pointlessly aggressiveEmma - seems boringBoth aren't archetypes I'm super fond of
>>2983454>Jusis - pointlessly aggressiveI don't see it, considering every five seconds Machias is telling him that he should have his entire estate appropriated for the forthcoming proletarian revolution.
How the fuck am I supposed to know thisShit, Elliot was right, we are the class retards>>2983463Okay, here's my take. Machias is absolutely starting the shitflinging himself, once you separate them he seems a decent enough person. Jusis hasn't said a thing that wasn't either part of the shitflinging, stuff like "Hmph I don't intend to make any friends here.", or sighing.
>>2983479Okay nevermind, Alexis goes up into Good and can stay there if she doesn't act crazy
I found an American(the music here is really good)
Based Machias supporter OP. And yeah, Sara's Eng VA is excellent. A lot of the English voice work is really good, there's only a few I don't really like. When I started playing the games in Japanese I didn't like some of the voices as much and I usually have the opposite experience.CS1 has a great soundtrack. Hope you're enjoying the game so far OP.
>>2983508It's been alright. I don't think I really have enough to make a good opinion, but like, there's seeds of good stuff later down the line.At the moment I'm just walking around the school, cause it's hugeHopefully the library stuff will stick once more of that becomes relevant, but at the moment it's a lot all at once
I found Towa in Azure!
>>2983454>Sword Girl - I just have very little to base anything onBecause there's very little there. Her name is Laura and she likes swords. That is the extent of her character development. On the other hand, she does sixteen fuckbillion damage.
It fell into the fucking bag!This jackass is trying to rob me>>2983526Hmm. There's hope, but I guess I'll see
>>2983536>50 miraFun ends here.
>>2983526>she does sixteen fuckbillion damageOnly with the turn delay master quarz and linked with 100% dodge Fie.
>>2983463Jusis is pretty unfriendly with everyone at the very beginning, including Rean. He also often starts that shit himself with some passive aggressive jab towards Machias. It's just that you are more likely to remember the guy who spergs out every time.
>>2983904Machias started the shit with him by reciting communist manifesto which dictated their dynamics. I can hardly blame Jusis for mocking him. And Jusis is not an asshole, he is just standoffish.
>>2983623I just stacked her with Str+ quartz and let her go to town, and that's not even getting into the more broken shit in the later games. The fact that you can use her and Fie as a party core in every game through Hajimari says a lot about how busted both are. >>2983904>>2983911Jusis is in a tough spot he doesn't really consider himself a "real noble" yet still has to fend of people trying to ingratiate themselves to him and gets harassed by Machias for it, who is just trying to swing around his dad's authority like it is something he himself earned.
>>2983520Neat. I really need to play the crossbell games
>>2983935More like Towa of the Flat Abyss
>>2979351kiseki fans not playing the games or ignoring plot points to push a narrative is a fanbase classic by now. you've probably heard that "Rean has no reason to be depressed" about 1000 times, but it conveniently ignores the plot point that being an adopted noble son is basically a stigma in high society and he's been told as much in passing many times. Moreover, the only reason he's actually at Thors to begin with is because he's resigned to having Elise inherit his family's barony because of said stigma, and he figures he can at least be useful to his nation by enlisting in the military (central to his arc before they fuck it up like retards in CS3/4). Yep, even though many of his classmates are basically there fucking around, Rean actually did enlist in hopes of joining the military. The more you know.
>>2984339>he figures he can at least be useful to his nation by enlisting in the military (central to his arc before they fuck it up like retards in CS3/4)He's actually just being loyal to his father in doing that, but is unable to admit that to himself. Actually extremely good character writing.
I am replaying CS but this time talking to everyone and i learned some cool stuff after finishing Beraeheard (sorry i still cannot memorize how to spell this)>people know that Jusis and Olivert are bastards and they are ok with it>the nobles love Rufus and consider him to be their proud and joy>commoners love Jusis and hope that he can be the bridge between the 2 groups>there are nobles openly suggesting a civil war>the noble who eats the Dryad Tear gets food poisoning and spends the rest of the day on his toilet>2 nobles are talking about the future of their kids and they both agree that rich commoners are cool in their book, worth marrying even>the Duke doubled the taxes which forced the stores to raise their prices, which pissed off the nobles who blame the merchants>butlers are still the most rational and based characters in this series and nobles don't deserve them (except Annabelle)>noble dads are paypigs that spoil their daughters, tale old as time>Richard is a good boy>you now remember that pic happened>>2984339Dont forget the fact that he's afraid of literally murdering his entire family by accident
>>2984414>you now remember that pic happenedAnd yet he ultimately wins the Sharonbowl, the best possible outcome for any male NPC.
>>2981908I fully agree. It makes the world feel more alive when characters talk about other people who seem like they have full histories and are a big deal. If you play the older games and actually meet them the mystery is lost and the world feels smaller some how.
>>2983454I know people think Emma is boring, but I felt her personality had the most development over the games.
>>2979360>that webmAnon from what kind of hell the fandom of this crap comes from.
>>2983454I felt the same way about Gaius but then he kind of falls into a catchphrase loop. Alisa mellows the fuck out and starts warming up early on. Like the second mission or so.Jusis is not bad but he's written for girls. Emma is a slow burn.
>>2979565>flamed This isn't the 00's anymore. Anime games aren't hated.
>>2981077>40 hour>JRPGThat just leaves you with shovelware and Atelier I guess.
>>2985781>Jusis is not bad but he's written for girls.You think so at first, but he canonically gets paired up with a loli. It's Crow who's fujobait.
>>2985866Dogs do what detectives don't
For those who played Kuro on PC, is it compatible with W7? Yes, I'm still clinging on to this ancient OS for dear life.
>>2979322This game filtered me. It was right at the beginning of the big desert area with the horseback riding. I got burned out on having to talk to every NPC all the time for the bonus item at the end of the chapter.Obviously, people here would be biased towards it, but should I try and pick it back up?
>>2986005If you can't even tell vast grasslands from desert, no wonder you got filtered hard.
>>2979446>There are no gays in Cold Steel.>who is crow
>>2983454>Jusis and EmmaWait for itand feed the cat
>>2986009Well, it's been almost a decade. I just remembered it being brown and desolate. I didn't think it was a desert per se, but I couldn't think of the term.
>>2986020There is no brown area in the game
>>2986022That's how I remembered it. Here's why.
>>2986031Play Kuro no Kiseki. It's brown free.
>>2986005>I got burned out on having to talk to every NPCThis is the main appeal of this series.If you don't enjoy talking to NPCs you won't enjoy these games.
>>2986049Sounds like I got my answer, thanks. I like talking to NPCs generally, but I think Falcom just asks too much of me.
>>2986069In later games like CS3 and CS4 important NPCs that give an item or side quest have a special symbol above them and on minimap.
>>2979322Start with the actual first game in the series, you dill weed. It has a tightly-knit overarching plot.
>>2986018Hooked up with Vita in the backstory.
>>2986104>tightly-knit overarching plot>organization that is portrayed as bad but is actually good is collecting god devices, one device per arc
>>2986218Untrue, Cold Steel had 2.
>>2985917Millium feels like some otome artist's quirky self insert.
Fuck yeah I caught a crab
>>2987065Don't ignore the fishing minigame. Complete the collection, use the guide if you have to.
Sorta dumb, but sorta cute. Collete's solid in my book>>2987072As far as fishing minigames go it seems decent. Idk, fishing is fishing
Can you do Link attacks off of counter hits?
>>2987103I genuinely don't remember if counters can unbalance but I don't think so. There are specific builds that utilize them as the main damage source but they demand specific quartz sets and only a few characters are truly good at them.
>>2986218They collected two in Cold Steel.
>>2979681>wind detectorGod, my sides
>>2986221>>2987834CS1+2 is one arc and CS3+4 is another one
>>2986020>decadeThat means you played on the vita or the PS3.You didn't get filtered by NPCs, there's like 10 of them total in the whole area. It's the travel time between the nomadic camp and the fortress that made you quit cause it can easily take up to 5 minutes of holding X just to get from one NPC to the other.This isn't an issue nowadays if you play the PC or PS4 versions cause they let you move at 6x speed.
>party member unlocks THAT skillI'm sorry Emma
>>2988299Except CS1+2 doesn't have any.
Train music is also really good, If anything, the OST for the game has been killing it so far.On the other hand, while it's nice that it's not just a generic poker/blackjack thing - Blade is no Triple Triad, let's just say that.
>>2991261Vantage Master in 3 and 4 can give Triple Triad a run for its money. Hell, its its own game in of itself before.
>>2991261The card game that first shows up in CS3 is sick.
These fucking Dragonflies hit like a truck damn.AOE's that do like 40% hp, and poison, and they're fast so they sometimes move twiceScary dudes>>2991285>>2991286That's good to hear. It is good that they're putting in the mini-games like this and the fishing and trying to make them matter
>>2991297At the start of CS1 you are pretty constrained, I suppose. Characters have few crafts, arts are shit, Laura is the only one with S-Break. Using Elliot to turtle up everyone is the safest approach but that also means you need to keep him safe. It will get smoother as you progress though.
Yeah sure just drop a fucking Dimetrodon in there
>>2994464Wait for your first Unsurtr.
>>2994464He wasn't a hard fight, but the music was pretty dope (again)
B for fucking BasedBest NPC in this town
Okay forget Fie, I think this is the actual autistic onelike wow
>>2994560Watch your mouth or you will get raped.
>>2985866Haha, that's our Zeit...
People shit on cold steel all the fucking time but you never see anyone complain about CS1 being boring compared to Sky. All you hear about Sky is how fucking boring it is from people trying to play it. Falcom fans are retarded. They can complain about Rean all they want but at least the Cold Steel games are fun.
>>2995992I genuinely enjoy both the first CS and Sky. It doesn't need to be a competition, they're actually pretty similar minus the styling of some of it. Both start pretty damn chill, but for some reason people seem to freak out about having to look for a cat in Sky when - look at this - >>2994527 you're doing the same small time tasks returning a lost wallet in CS1. And they're both filling the same role - they help you get a grounding in the fuck huge world around you while laying down crumb pieces of intrigue that get fulfilled later. The only real difference is that while Sky tends to put its questions a bit more into the scenario, CS goes a bit more blatant about it with all the people staring at Class VII from 10 feet away watching them and monologuing mysteriously, whether that's new people like Crow or Sara or returning cameos like Bleublanc or Olivert and outright having people say to each other "wow that guy sure seems to have a lot of secrets".
>>2994560Please excuse my wife. She's a swordbrain, she can't help it.
This is peak enemy design. Whoever did this should get a raise
>>2996677Mishybrain and swordbrain, what could go wrong?