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So my options are either get cucked by random pirates or something, or get cucked by a demon? I guess I'll stay single then.
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>>2929935
It's been years since I last played, does isabela outright kek you or was it just implied?
I cannot possibly understand why they would maker her the "canon" romance for hawke in inquisition
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>>2929948
She will only cuck you if you dont stop her.
If you tell her no she cant fuck other men then she wont.
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>>2929954
Oh it's not as bad as I remembered. Still baffling they went so overboard with her, I am not the kind of guy that asks for only virgin romances but there is a point where it becomes too much, especially since she's not a minor character, but a companion key to the plot.
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>>2929935
>Isabela
lmao
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>>2929955
What is overboard about it? Some bitch you are fucking asks you if you are just fucking, if there's romance in it, or there is romance in it and you still want to fuck other people.
You literally choose any of the above to customize exactly how you want to go about it and she's cool with any of the given choices.
She's effectively the only romance in the entire series that behaves like an adult about the whole thing, it's actually surprising they were even capable of that considering DA's shit track record.
It's not anyone's fault but your own (or in this case OP's) if you are absolutely autistic and incapable of handling basic human communication labelling anything that doesn't go your way a personal affront.
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>>2929973
Here's your upvote
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>>2929976
Retard.
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>>2929948
She CAN cuck you but you have the option to tell her not to.
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Rivalry romances in DA2 are much better than friendship ones.
Anders tries to kick Vengeance but tragically succumbs to his addiction and goes all 9/11.
Fenris hates mages but can't stand how okay you are with it. He wishes he knew how to quit you.
Merrill is like a petulant child getting told how retarded she is. And being a dick to her is, I believe, the only way to save her clan from being slaughtered by you and her.
Isabela hates how traditional and normal you are but is happy to settle down and stop slutting around.
Haven't romanced the church boy, because I'm not into balding Irishmen.
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>canonically has stds
>betrays you for a fucking boat
>adds insult to injury by giving you the worst line ever uttered in a wrpg: I LIKE BIG BOATS AND I CANNOT LIE
>causes the whole qunari situation and gets away with it
>In Inquisition if she romanced Hawke he hopes she isn't having too much fun while he's away
Impressive how they managed to make the worst girl ever
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>>2929935
A real shame that Aveline can't be romanced by Hawke.
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>>2929990
This. Our tomboy redhead has the worst taste in men. She should've been romanceable.
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>>2929982
Fenris is pretty justified in his views though and has been through enough that I'd rather not bully him on top of that.

> And being a dick to her is, I believe, the only way to save her clan from being slaughtered by you and her.
Nah, you can be on the friendship path with Merrill and still have the clan survive, it still ends with you placing the blame on her for being a stupid retard, but the slight approval knock (if there was one at all, I don't remember) means basically nothing at that point in the game.
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>>2929990
It's for the best, it's nice having at least one or two companions who are just friends (and have other people in their lives) rather than MC-sexual potential love interests
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>>2929935
SEXO
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>>2929973
She doesn't stop telling you how many people she fucked dude. She literally does not stop for a second. It's straight up comical. The slutty rogue type that gets fixed with love and reveals a hesrt of gold can be fun but when you find your partner getting her STD cured with magic it stops being fun really fast, it's the textbook definition of ruining an idea by overdoing it.
Also her whole character is that she is immature and needs to stsrt behaving responsibly, I don't see how you can say she is mature.
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>>2930016
>I don't see how you can say she is mature
That anon said she was mature about the relationship and the player character's choice. Not that she was necessarily mature in every way or any other way.
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>>2930033
I think the right word here is not mature but realistic.
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>>2930035
I don't know how many women you have met, but even sluts have their limits, it takes a special kind of cunt to catch an STD and not tell your partner anything, even in an open relationship it's a completely irresponsible, and evil move.
They had a chance to make an appealing "i can fix her" pirate waifu and they completely fucking jinxed it by going well over the speed limit and crashing the whole vehicle.
One of the many, many faults of the game, hardly the biggest one considering just how bad it is.
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>>2929982
>And being a dick to her is, I believe, the only way to save her clan from being slaughtered by you and her.
nope after the keeper dies all you have to say is take responsibility for merrill and the elves say funny enough" you can have her" and if you are in a romance with merrill she cries saying she has no one with hawke correcting her saying she has him and he,she then smiles and hugs you
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>>2929973
spoken like a true npc
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>>2929935
IIRC Jennifer Hepler wrote all romances in this game.
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>>2930136
Nah, inquisition confirms Isabella as his canon romance
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>>2930139
You want to get banned again Farquaad? Do mods even know you are evading perm?
If you want to talk about games, do so but shut your cumstained mouth about any other topic, you sex obsessed freak.
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>>2930152
I am not obsessed with you, I hate you. You have worked hard for it and you are working still. And don't delude yourself into thinking there is just one autist shitting on you. I imagine almost anyone on this board who interacted with you feels contempt and disgust in at least some capacity.
Now stop posting gay shit and I will maybe decide to ignore you.
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>>2930160
>still posting his faggotry instead of contributing to the discussion
May you die a painful death.
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>>2929935
Isabela is an aids infested whore, anyone who picks her is a fucking degenerate simp and his future wife (implying he'll get married lol) will most likely cuck him behind his back with Tyron
that Elf bitch is a fucking retard (possibly the stupidest character in the entire series) but at least she's loyal to you and truly loves you
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>>2929935
>aaauugh! there's no kawaii sasuka blushing virgin female characters just like in my animes! this game is awful!
Dang, yo, I never thought I'd see someone this insecure about fictional females.
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Merill should be considered totally redeemed given the shit in DA:I, which bends over backwards to make her and Anders right of all things.
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>>2930148
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>>2930163
Faggot thread about a faggot console game. I think Farquaad's posts are appropriate.
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>>2930188
First you allow him to shit Bethesda thread. Then you allow him to shit Sawyer thread. Then you do nothing when he starts rampaging in actually decent threads.
You are part of the problem.
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>>2930188
Is Farquad the faggot that kept spamming his gay characters in Skyrim and Dragon Age?
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>>2930196
Yes. Isn't he such a BASED chad?
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>>2930196
The same. He is also a faggot that heeps ranting about "str8 trash" and "bleeding front holes." A week ago he had a special kind of tantrum when he started posting uncensored gay porn here. I had hoped jannies would make him go away permanently but he always gets back like a curse.
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>>2930201
he's probably a mod
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>>2930198
Gays cannot, by definition, be based.
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>>2930202
Unlikely. If that were true, he would permaban me out of spite for my constant reporting against him.
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>dragon age 2 thread devolves into someone dumping his gay porn folder
Like pottery
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>>2930210
There is literally nothing more based and manly than utterly showing your dominance over another male by pumping his ass full of cum. You're only gay if you're the one taking the cock.
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>>2930183
Anon, you can't be serious, isabella literally has fucking aids, there is a cutoff point where it becomes retardation
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None of the women in dragon age 2 are remotely attractive. I guess that’s inevitable when your company doesn’t have a single male heterosexual writer. My suggestion? play jrpgs.
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>>2930259
Your sister and Isabela are undeniably conventionally attractive, merril isn't that bad either
>My suggestion? play jrpgs.
Oh, I see yours is just a severe case of brainrot then.
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>>2930263
>twitter meme phrases
Let me guess: ur “bisexual”, right?
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>>2930265
>gets called out
>accuses other of being bisexual
Peak tranime behavior, as if twitter invented "brainrot".
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>>2930259
Nah she's hot af.
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>>2930266
Curiously avoiding the question
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>>2930268
I am pretty sure the response is implied: no, unlike you.
Are you a faggot perchance?
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>>2930270
>heterosexual dragon age 2 enjoyer
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>>2930271
>dragon age 2 enjoyer
Again with the made up accusations
When did I imply the game was anything but dogshit? Why are you like this?
Also
>curiously avoiding the question
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>>2929935
Merril is perfect schizo gf. A blessing.
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>>2930267
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>>2930007
>>2929989
>>2929948
>>2929954
>>2929955
>>2929968
>>2929973
>>2929981
Isabela is a thot. That is the point of romancing Isabela, you are fucking a thot. She is not going to be someone to have a stable relationship with and she will likely make your life worse in the process. She isn't a good choice and that's kind of the point.
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>>2930352
She betrayed me for a demon, I made her butcher her homeclan. She felt like it was all her fault, I encouraged the thought. I was the good guy, she was my waifu.

DA2 is a shizo game, I say so.
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>>2930372
bro she apologizes. also every single companion betrays you in the fade except for anders because he's already possessed. that seems a little extreme.
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>>2929973
t. proud cuck
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>>2930186
What? How is Merrill redeemed?
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>>2929935
It's awkward when default femHawke is by far my favorite girl in DA2.
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>>2930502
Avaar DLC shows that demons/spirits are incredibly easy to causually bind/unbind, with no long term problems on the users. Turns out that Solas' bullshit was right, kinda proves Anders a fag because he claims he can't get rid of Justice but he could (based on what we see from the Avaar) tell him to fuck off at any time.
So Merill was totally right, but is still dumb as sticks.
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>>2930514
>says femhawke
>posts DAI Cassandra
legitimately the best girl, just needs a mod to give her longer hair
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>>2930502
The eluvian mainly. Whether she keeps it or destroys it has major implications. The fact that she went through so much effort to repair it also means it would be lost without her.
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>>2930194
He never shat on any single decent thread. KYS tranny, you will fight a bigger faggot than you.
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>>2930526
Don't the Avaar do a very specific ritual to unpossess themselves, though? Also Anders grew up in a culture that treats most spirits as inherently destructive and refuses to see them with nuance. Yeah, Anders willingly took Justice into himself and this was a mutual arrangement, but he would also need the know how of what to do in order to separate them both which is why he fucks off to Tevinter for a bit if you leave him alive at the end. It's more complicated than simply both parties being willing to part.
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>>2929935
If you play shit expect to be treated like shit you piece of shit!
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>>2930528
Her eluvian and the efforts she went through to repair it are basically pointless, we know there's thousands of them out in the world, even if they aren't all active. Hell, the fact that Morrigan just shows up with a working one is just kind of comedic.

In the case where Merrill got the mirror working, what does it really change or achieve? It's just another portal, if anything, it's probably just made her a target for the qunari who are going around smashing them by the dozen.
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>>2930531
>Also Anders grew up in a culture
Doesn't matter, he's wrong and they're wrong.
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>>2930551
>thousands out in the world
No, there's only a specific number that are active and that's provided you know the key to activate them. Most of the eluvians were shattered in the fall of arlathan, some were left on by accident but most will never function again. The fact that Merril repairs the eluvian is big but putting her quest into the context of later entries is funny because the only way the mirror will ever work is if you know the key, and she doesn't.

>what does it change if she gets it working
That.. she has access to the eluvians to begin with? And that she'll likely join Solas because of this?
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>>2930561
Yeah ik he's wrong but that doesn't change the fact he would have no other way of knowing.
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>>2930574
Irrelevant. There is correct and there is incorrect. Based on what we know to be true now, Anders CHOSE to be possessed.
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>>2930569
> And that she'll likely join Solas because of this?
wow more fodder for solas, that totally means a lot
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>>2930579
He chose to be possessed because Justice can't do shit for mages as just a spirit. That was the arrangement.
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>>2930592
He continually claims that "he can't undo" their fusion even if he wanted to and repeatedly says that Justice is taking him along for the ride without his consent. That's nonsense and wrong, based on what we've seen. Anders is just undisciplined - legitimately Merill would have been able to host Justice without no issue.
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>>2930600
Literally no one would've been able to host Justice long term without being corrupted, Justice as a concept just can't exist in real life without its purpose being tainted by peoples biases and the fact that pure black and white justice just not working IRL. Hell, even when Justice was possessing a fucking corpse he was often affected heavily by the original mans memories and feelings.

Wynne only managed so well with hers because Faith could exist in the world (and within Wynne especially since she's devout) without being overtly influenced or denied its purpose, Justice however seemingly just adopts and amplifies the hosts sense of right and wrong until you get someone like Anders in act 3, as well as justice who has been altered to fittingly become 'vengeance' instead. If it were Merrill instead, she'd probably get all up in arms about elves being mistreated by humans or some shit.
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>>2930608
>Literally no one would've been able to host Justice long term without being corrupted,
Unless it was some random Avaar NPC, sure.
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>>2929935
Just romance based Anders
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>>2930636
And then fucking kill him.
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>>2930636
>>2930653

Best choice for drama to be fair.
>puttin down your BF like ol yeller cause he's foamin at the mouth
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>>2930663
Fucking Fenris as a woman and then selling him back to Danarius to be his mindbroken cockholster is also incredibly based.
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the only *mediocre* (rather than just straight shit) sequences of da2 were the unreliable narrator parts, and summed up to less than 2 hours of gayme play. I don’t think bioware will be shut down, but it’s real problem is the core audience it does have (pederasts and the women who love them) cannot support the budget of the projects they’ve been making.
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>>2929935
Just romance Bethany
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>>2930608
>>2930613
>>2930526
Bro the Avaar DLC legitimately got me thinking about how allowing weak pussy mages that suck at magic to get possessed is really the only optimal solution to prevent them from blowing themselves up. As long as they're raised with a virtue spirit or a neutral spirit they end up better off than having been raised with no spirit. Also put into perspective how Rivain is based.
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>>2931240
It makes me think that whoever wrote that DLC probably wasn't thinking about the wider ramifications of what they were doing.

Before that DLC, the information about the avvar/rivaini seers was vague enough that I figured that, while SOME possessions went okay (because spirits are influenced partially by their hosts perception of them), there were probably also a LOT of abominations and deaths as well that are just memory-holed by the people there as the person being too weak or fucking up some ritual or whatever.
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>>2930035
You're right. My Hawke negged the shit out her. Told her she's stupid, selfish, evil, and a whore. Boom. She cries that she can be better and devoted only to Hawke.
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>>2931444
Tbf the only information we've had on Rivain (game wise) is that their seers become abominations and that this is a tradition they've been doing for ages. However, in Origins and DA2 most abominations the player has encountered in game are just monsters possessed by the most destructive spirits and nothing can be done except putting them down. Anders was a rare exception, and for Wynne it was unclear the exact relationship was between her and her Faith spirit. But basically what this does is skew the player into viewing Rivain as negative since the only experience you end up getting with abominations are the worst ones.
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>>2931490
I was always under the impression that an 'abomination' was when a spirit/demon had actually taken over the body of a human as the main host, rather than just being possessed like Anders/Wynne/maybe Connor(?) were, its just that 90% of the time those abominations twist the body of the host due to them finally having full access to their powers in the real world.
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>>2930762
Why wasn't this an option?
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>>2931511
use your head and not your dick to think and I'm sure you can come up with the answer.
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>>2930007
Not enough freckles and moles. Here king.
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>>2931609
I can't think of anything
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>>2931641
that sounds like a personal problem then.
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>>2931503
>>2931490
The problem is the massive inconsistancy between what Solas says and what we see, and what we see from the Avaar and what is said.
If Solas is right about spirits essentially being mirrors, the entire plot of DA:I could be resolved by people going to the fade rifts and thinking nice thoughts hard at them.
On the other hand, the Avaar seem to mage mog everyone else with no effort, freely binding and summoning spirits in such a way that would give them a massive competitive advantage over all other civilizations (casually being able to incarnate gods into dragons, making sapient bears).
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>>2931955
What's funny to me is that the Avaar don't really seem to give a shit about the lowland cultures at all. They're perfectly content to just chill in the frostbacks eating meat. If you ask the thane why they don't take more interest in the lowlanders she basically says "Why? They have nothing we need". The Hakkonites were the odd exception in that they wanted to go to outright war with Orlais.
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>>2929973
>behaves like an adult a
>Isabela
Did we play the same game?
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People do know that Isabella only act like a slut because she thought that what the PC into, right? Like her entire thing is that she is a free-spirited pirate queen who think that the person who like her also just as free-spirited like her.
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>>2932170
DA2fags didn't play DA2, they watched cutscenes and romances on youtube. That is why you can't talk with them about anything other than that and they also never complain about other shit aspects of the game like its gameplay.
People who talk about shit quests, shit maps, and shit gameplay at least tried to play the game. Any other person is a biodrone that watched someone plays the game.
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>>2930252
>isabella literally has fucking aids
It becomes kind of meh when you (or Anders if you are a cuck non mage) can magic your problems away.
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>>2932598
sounds based to me
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Ironically Zevran is just Isabella but better. When Zevran is in a relationship with the Warden he stays loyal to them, you see this when he rejects Isabella's proposal for sex. Meanwhile if Isabella is in a relationship with Hawke she doesn't hesitate for a second to try to get some dick from Zevran right in front of Hawke. Hawke has to straight up beg their gf not to fuck him.
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>>2932598
Newsflash! People don't enjoy talking about how they saw a runover cat whose guts got spilled on the pavement that one time. Curb your authusiasm.
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>>2933003
>Newsflash!
You are either a femoid or a tranny, which means you are a target group of DA2. That also means you watched the game on youtube. Glad you had fun, shame about the bioware forums.
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>>2933009
>misses the point
But of course.
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>>2933013
You didn't make a point though. There are people out there who for some reason enjoyed DA2, the same people in this very thread defending Isabella's character. So either you're genuinely retarded or you somehow misread this entire thread.
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>>2933020
>People don't enjoy talking about how they saw a runover cat whose guts got spilled on the pavement that one time.
There. In case you don't get the metaphor - people don't enjoy remembering shit, so they don't get into discussion about it. But they enjoyed their waifus and discuss them. There is nothing more to it. End of story.
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>>2932598
>People who talk about shit quests, shit maps, and shit gameplay at least tried to play the game. Any other person is a biodrone that watched someone plays the game.
I thought he combat was decent, not nearly as good as DAO's but not as mindlessly shit as DAI's. Maps were awful.
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>>2933058
>>2933020
And yeah I called analogy a metaphor, my bad.
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>>2933061
>I thought he combat was decent
Good Lord, no. It's horrible as it is but the constant barrage of eternally spawning enemies makes it unbearable. Itemization is also non-existent.
DAI at least allows you to make different builds and crafting with a handful of unique items saves the itemization aspect. The enemies are too spongy but don't spawn every five seconds, and you can also evade many unneeded encounters which is impossible in the tunnel alleys of Kirkwall. There is a ton of things that are shit in DAI but at least these aspects are better than in DA2, but it is a very low bar.
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>>2933069
I acknowledge what you say as true, but I still had fun playing as a blood mage on normal difficulty.
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>>2931609
Yeah, Bethany was probably too big of a variable. She's might not even survive the prologue and she's gone for the majority of the game so there's just no time to romance her
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>Can't romance two best companions at the same time
Cringe
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>>2931955
> entire plot of DA:I could be resolved by people going to the fade rifts and thinking nice thoughts hard at them.

That's a massive oversimplification given the fully ingrained nature of the world. It'd be like telling someone to walk towards a giant feral grizzly bear and just think nice thoughts and it won't attack you, even if it WERE true, its entirely unreasonable to expect ANYONE to be able to do that genuinely.
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Honestly kind of sad replaying DA2 and seeing all the unique animations that play out in some cutscenes, compared to inquisition where nearly every single conversation is just two characters standing statically and talking at each other.
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>>2933806
>getting twice as many stds
no thanks
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>>2936076
...what?
What the fuck are you even going on about?
They are literally animations from Mass Effect.
Its also the same animations reused over and over and over only that someone worth a shit did some decent cuts when they are cycling so its not that obvious due to to the "camerawork"/perspective.
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Posting again since the other thread I posted in died. Hoping you can help
Going to play Origins for the first time soon. Are there any mods needed for a first playthrough? I don't want anything to change the first experience, but there might be some important bug fix mods or something.
I've heard something about Qwill's or something, and something about banters fixes?
QRD. Cheers lads
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>>2936273
>are there any mods needed for first playthrough
if you're playing on PC then Qwinn's fixpack is helpful since it cleans up some bugs and other things. Aside from that mod you can essentially do a first playthrough vanilla if you want.
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>>2931955
>thinking nice thoughts hard at them
Yeah good luck with that. Imagine trying to convince everyone in Thedas to stop all wars ever "because fade". Imagine going down to Seheron and trying to convince the Quanari to stop hating Tevinters to create less rage demons and going down to Tevinter and trying to convince the slaves to be happier as to not create more despair demons. Life doesn't work that way. People have issues and there will always be conflict.
>avvar mage mogging
>inconsistency between what Solas says and what we see
I think you just massively misunderstand what is presented. What Solas says is very consistent with what we've seen so far. The fade reflects the world and vice versa, he just wants to sunder the veil so there's no longer a separation. It won't "fix" everything in the sense of making things more peaceful, it's just that the elves will regain their magical nature as well as their immortality. There will no longer be mages and non-mages as magic will just be is. Also any culture that values magic in Thedas seems to make use of it. Tevinter is insanely magically advanced, which is the benefit of being ruled by mages ig.
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> Its also the same animations reused over and over and over only that someone worth a shit did some decent cuts when they are cycling so its not that obvious due to to the "camerawork"/perspective.

Forgive the shit gif quality but I'm talking about moments like this anon, even though they're rare, as well as other lively scenes like Isabella's introduction that clearly have a lot more effort put into them than basically any introduction in DA:I, where even in the 'proper' cutscenes the characters look like they barely move and the camera work is super simple.



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