At least it was until Beliar fucked everything up
>>2773588The most played demo for me... but I never could get into the real game.
>>2773595Talking about demos, a demo for the press of Gothic 1 was just found and released by THQ to the publichttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eyj6TxUzRjc
>>2773588I really hope they made khorinis into something like the city of archolos in history of khorinis. Going back from archolos to gothic 2 makes you realize khorinis is a fucking village
>>2773626Archolos is too huge on the other hand, they'd be better off trimming it down in favor of more wilderness.
>>2773626What really matters is the amount of content in the city, not like Archolos lacks it but its not Khorinis lacked quests and events either, for its size it was packed with stuff to do and see.>>2773671Archolos is just right, like Khorinis its also full of content.
>Cities in early 2000's germ-jank games are more alive, populated and larger than in 2011 international hit "Skyrim" Bravo Todd
I got this on Steam a while back, I think I installed the unofficial patch as well. Anything to keep in mind while playing this not to gimp yourself or break the game? It seems really janky
>>2773729>forsaken godsDon't even bother.
>>2773747My bad, I bought the real Gothic 3, I just grabbed that image from google real quick, didn't even know Forsaken Gods was a thing.
>>2773749>real Gothic 3The game has alternative AI (toggleable during gameplay) and alternative balancing (non-toggleable, needs to be set before beginning a new game). If you disable both the game is piss-easy as is.
>>2773749Still don't bother. Gothic 3 is a shit game not worth playing.
>>2773594Is it that mod any good? does it have a good english translation?
>>2773872>Is it that mod any good? does it have a goodenglish translation?Probably and not really, some dialogue is translated by hand but most of it is just google translate and it shows, also a lot of the dialogue isn't voiced.>>2773858Its not that bad
Is there any noteworthy mod after chronicles? I want some gothic but i beat it so many times that I need smth new in it
>>2774041Are you german or polish? Else only Velaya and Golden Gate have decent english translations.>>2774089Elex really doesn't feel like Gothic, like at all
>>2774095Dej mje to mody człowieku
>>2774095>Elex really doesn't feel like Gothic, like at allThat's like saying if you get a new paintjob on a car it's a different car.Nah dumb-dumb, same car, different paint.
>>2773726and morrowind :^)
>>2774156>same car, different paint.You could say that about Risen but Elex feels way more like The Witcher than Gothic
>>2774041>Is there any noteworthy mod after chronicles? I want some gothic but i beat it so many times that I need smth new in itOdyssey is really nice with focus on locations and plot, but railroaded as paladin good guy main character.
>>2774041Legends of Ahssûn ist just as good imo
>>2773885>Its not that badI've never bothered playing it, I only remember everyone hating it when it came out because it was very buggy back then. How playable is it now? There are probably a lot of community fixes out by now, if it's a not complete mess anymore I'd like to finally try it.
>>2774934I replayed it last year with community patches, for the first time since it released. It sometimes drops framerate to a slideshow for no reason and still loads way slower than it should(on an ssd), but otherwise it's playable fine.It's just not a very good game, but it can be enjoyable if you like exploration. The music is gorgeous too, too bad it gets interrupted by a loud annoying battle theme every 5 seconds.
>>2773602Hey this is pretty cool, thanks for posting
>>2773749>>2773858Gothic 3 with the community patch, content pack and the parallel universe patch (despite name, is actually just a massive performance upgrade) is a genuinely good ARPG.
finished Gothic 1 with mod-fix modificationsome thoughts>devs have hate boner for golden mod for some mystical reason, I guess adding content they disagree with is "fanfiction" despite doing it themselves to the point of adding custom voice acting (they unironically use words like humankind) >beating up people breaks quests, I was unable to join new camp and nearly got locked out of old camp because of this, asked dev and they are okay with this(w h y)>weapon training is locked behind stat requirement as in you need strength (30 and 60) for one handed weapons, okay change>mod tries to make pickpocketing viable by giving such fantastic rewards such as: PIECE OF BREAD and 20 xp, even difficult npcs don't really give any anything unique, you gain miniscule skill increase occasionally if you pick pocket npcs but guess what if you beat up npcs you don't get anything if you pick pocket, which makes skill make no sense again, aside from that you still need dexterity to learn those skills and increase your chance>their next update (probably years away) adds more fanfiction like saving Yberion and gurushipwhat is the least intrusive gothic 2 mod that adds things to the base game without going overboard? preferably in english
>>2773588I REALLY need to play Gothic & Gothic II
>>2773602interesting that the whole "throw something to distract the beast" made into gothic 1 remakethere you have rotten piece of meat that distracts the predatorseven the camera position seems to based on that
khorinis is a very comfy city. i like to just stroll around and listen to the ambient and what npcs are talking.
>>2775753Khorinis melancholic ambience was absolutely nuts. Idk how PB took this turn after the primal, masculine Conanesque theme of the first game but the two are clearly not set in the same universe
>>2775790they are not even in the same time period. 1 is early middle ages and 2 is late middle ages with canons etc.but i cant say which i find better honestly.
decided to be particularly autistic today in Gothic 2 >start my playthrough get to the Lobart>do my chores, his wife asks for a pan>know better than to trust the merchant >walk around the city walls and find a frying pan in the wild>go back, give it to farmer's wife>buy clothes at discount>wear my farmer's clothes and talk to merchant>he falls for peasant clothes trick and no longer offers city passit's the little things you discover every timenow if you'll excuse me I have to harbor to swim to
anyone played Gothic 2 with L'hiver mod ?
I think Ill play another run
>>2776692Actual bloated garbage.
>>2776731well I just installed it and I am wondering what were they thinking>a generic wolf throws itself backwards to dodge an attack, not a step back but full on summersault>sheep near Xardas spawns demon because funny>some enemies just don't get staggered they just attack spam>buffed attack speed of certain enemies which were already fast think I am going to give it a pass
>>2776788I've heard that in this mod arrows cost 10 gold pieces each. Is that true?
>>2775737>what is the least intrusive gothic 2 mod that adds things to the base game without going overboard?L'Hiver? But fuck me if it's not difficult. At least in the early game. And adds a lot of new mechanics.Btw I don't think G2 needs mods as much as the first one. The game is pretty full of side content until the very end. It doesn't become linear quickly like G1
>>2776922I played it today (1.6) for a few hours, it's really in your face with how much shit it changes, the complete opposite of what I am looking for in >>2775737I just have "Bonus independent training" right now (apples, tablets, potions no longer add to the learning cost so no need to hoard it) installed at the moment if anyone wants something similar to L'hiver there is mod called "Atariar Edition 1.5.2" it has some features of former without being superbloaty
>>2775035Music is over the top corny kitsch just like Wagner
>>2775035the music is great, the music system is dogshit. i usualy just listen to the soundtrack in winamp in the background
>>2776692YOu mean the polish mod that all the polish people are playing on steam?
>>2777071that's chronicles of myrtana: Archolosentirely new setting and heroit's pretty damn good
>>2776731If that is "bloated garbage" then i wonder what Returning is
>>2777074let's just say returning is...special.
>>2777074Are you kidding me? At least Returning has WORKING scripts. You know I see so many fags shit on returning but I never, never ever see them link to a better gothic mod with decent translation and WORKING SCRIPTS. You know the first backbone of the game, where you're not following Lares across the island and he decides to get stuck on his pathfinding, then aggro himself infinitely on a shadowbeast and die. No mates, L'Hiver is awful, ugly and poorly scripted garbage and I'm not a huge fanboy of Returning but at least it has an active community that fixes shit, constantly.
>>2773602I can't put the finger if things are better in release or the demo.They definitely made New Camp look less like cutthroats in the release, and I finally understand what those two new camp guys were actually supposed to do.It certanly seems like Old Camp got more demonized in the release and some of the spice of the cinematic demo worldbuilding got taken away.
So, what was your first camp when you first played Gothic?What was your favorite?What was your least favorite?
>>2777741For me>Old Camp (Shadow -> Fire Mage)Didn't like how they bullied me in the New Camp, and my older brother picked New Camp so I had to be contrarian.>New CampUltimately, once you get past the rice lord, it's the best camp from a narrative reason. Not sure if gameplay wise too, I think going magic early was not bad.>Swamp CampThey are the worst because you keep your hair, and even after you join it never feels like you're fully one of them, and they implode the fastest.
>>2777741>First Old Camp, comfy music, the ramshackle wooden hut town around the castle really struck a chord with me>favoritesee above>least favoriteswamp I guess, mainly because how bad the navigation was (climbing ladders, swamp water everywhere, road wants you to go around in circles until you reach temple or you trudge through the wateranother factor was how limited the camp was for an outsider (no trainer unless you impress one baal who increases mana also the only sensible vendor)overall it felt unfinished even if there was 5th circle teacher and Guru/Baal specialization
>>2777741swapswapnew>>2777746>Swamp Camp>They are the worst because you keep your hair, and even after you join it never feels like you're fully one of them, and they implode the fastest.There was a mod where you can get both haircut and tattoos and become guru.Sadly i don't remember was it golden mod or it was in returning.
>>2777916why did you swap the two questions back and forth
There should be more compact RPGs set around one town or so. Outside of Gothic 1/2 and Risen what else there is?
>>2777978Literally Witcher 3 if you don't include B&W DLC
>>2777978Nothing truly seamless like Pyranha Bytes, the closest contenders would be Vampire The Masquerade: Bloodlines, Way of the Samurai and Yakuza series, Quest for Glory and Pool of Radiance if you're willing to go old-school
>>2777972True, Witcher 3 is indeed pathetic compared to Gothic.
>>2777978The first Witcher is only set in Vizima and its outskirts. The combat rhythm even reminds me a bit of Gothic's.
>>2775800it kind of makes sense, since the colony is a prison which gets all its wares from the outside. if you had a similar scenario today it would be similar "low-tech".also the fortress of the old camp is already a ruin in g1 so its plausible that it predates the first game by a long time. which would explain its older architecture
>>2778125Yeah. I think it would be pretty disappointing if the rest of the world was just like the Colony. It wouldn’t feel like a unique prison cut off from the world anymore, it’s like a time capsule. And breaking out wouldn’t be nearly as satisfying. Walking out of the Xardas tower that now sticks out like a sore thumb and finding out that the world outside is actually beautiful and somewhat advanced compared to the Colony was a nice change of pace. You still need to put work in to be taken seriously so it’s not like it lost any of the appeal the harsher setting had.
As a Gothichad, I absolutely cannot stand Witcher (any of the games). It's strange since it should be more Gothic like than TES, but I like even TES (Morrowind) a lot more than the Witcher series, and I played Oblivion more than Witcher 3.
>>2777741Old CampOld CampSwamp Camp
>>2778217You should give it another try. The witcher 1 is just kino afhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sKv0rtgI7mw
>>2778217In Witcher, the are more dangerous enemies than boars
I really wish dexterity had synergy with melee combat in Gothic, like an increased crit chance/damage
>>2778255[x] DOUBTThere are no boars in Gothic in the first place.
>>2778515That must be modded.
>>2778551no, its gothic2 notr vanilla
>>2778255?boars are pushovers in gothic gamesNoTR boar is just reskinned wolf, Gothic 3 boar's stunlock can avoided as long as you don't spam attack
>>2778561>NoTR boar is just reskinned wolfAh so, that explains everything.>>2778558Not in the American version.
>>2778567>Not in the American version.possible, i only played the german version. altough its wierd that they would remove enemies in different versions
>>2778567were boars too lewd to american audience?to be fair their implementation is a bit on the lazy side>wolf's skeleton, same animation except there is no bite just lunging>slight stat buff>no additional dialogue from Bosper when you deliver boar skins
>>2778625>>no additional dialogue from Bosper when you deliver boar skinsive always wondered why he doesnt comment on that. but its probably an oversight since they recorded a lot of audio for notr so they could have easily recorded one additional line.
>>2778651reminded of Lester's bizarre deliveryhttps://youtu.be/lza_6deMITQ?t=187(I am guessing voice actor was not available or something)
>>2778656the english voiceover is all over the place anyway. but the voiceline is missing in german too, which is normally very good quality (except the lack of variety in voice actors maybe).
>>2778656So was every line reused ?
>>2778561They released a patch to fix it, but how the fuck were boars the most dangerous enemy in the entire game?
>>2779185beats me, witcher fag probably only played the third game
got any character tabs saved ?this is my archolos character right before the end
I started playing Gothic 3, so far I've helped the Rebels (but also done all the side quests for the orcs) and need to decide what to do about Cape Dun. I know I could just leave it for now, but I'm not sure what faction to pick overall. My first idea was to side with the rebel because my character is a freedom fighter or human supremacist, but I want to try a second run later and focus on magic instead of melee weapons, and it seems like it would almost be more fitting to side with the orcs for my melee run. Any suggestions?
>>2780685travel to other lands before commiting to either firstin the south the hashishin (dudes in black) are allied with orcs and generally do not like people who have fought against orcsnorth is pretty straightforward, if you are human you dieas I recall you can liberate 1-2 cities before the opposite faction leader calls you out for liberating a cityI highly suggest seeking out Xardas as well, he provides some interesting insight into whole war
Which anime is this "XXX, home" meme from? I keep seeing it everywhere.
>>2780921Cory in the House
>>2780685How the fuck is it "fitting" for Nameless to side with orcs in any way? G3 fell for the choices meme where it doesn't make any sense, it would unironically be a much better game with a more linear storyline.
>>2780921Boku No Busta
>>2774168>>2781499>Actually can meet (nameless hero) in Varant obliterating assassins>he is travelling with Lester and Diego in a heavy mercenary armor looking for Adanos artefacts >talks both seriously and smoothly and like a certified badass>raid temple ruins with him>he gives you fire chalice since you are a paladinThis was peak comfy.
>>2781531how is localization of Odyssey?I know bit of German and decent amount of Russian but honestly would prefer English if possible
>>2781554Russian is an actual translation for 2.6 version. 2.7(latest) content is mtl, but that's mainly crab island, mid game filler.And>gothic mods>english translationLmao
>>2781499From what I could gather from orc apologists, they're actually very fair and treat you well once you've proven yourself, the rebels fight to reinstate an incompetent, corrupt asshole of a king, going back to neverending wars with the orcs who are apparently the natives of Myrtana. Orc/Xardas ending supposedly results in orcs and humans learning to live alongside each other as equals. Orcwanking aside I guess a semi-legitimate reason is that you don't want to see king Rhobar back on the throne.
>>2781499nameless hero despite being favored by Innos has free will, you can spare orc village in Gothic 1 and allow Ur-shak the orcish shaman to try negotiate some form of peacein Gothic 3 we can see the absolute failure of King and Innos, Myrtana was in it's golden age (big cities, multiple colonies on the isles, multiple fortresses) and yet even with magical ore they still failed, paladins and mages ate shit when runic magic got destroyedpath of Beliar represents a much harsher world but one that would ultimately strengthen humanity
What's up with all the rage towards Gothic I've been encountering from Morrowind fans recently? I'm out of the loop.
Are there any mods that let you have a waifu in Gothic 2? Obviously not Gothic 1 since all the women are whores.
>>2782251don't think sothere is mod that allowed you to play one of Gomez's groupies and the Gothic 1 sequel that got canceled featured lady(Thora) who was quite good with the staff
>>2782273>there is mod that allowed you to play one of Gomez's groupiesWhy would you wanna play as someone's hoe?
>>2782251Now this is a 4chan type post I have never seen about Gothic. Sorry mate there's definitely no virgin waifus in the game because the world is harsh and I doubt theres consent laws in khorinis either. Trying to think of a close second best for the hero, not really sure. You could probably get with Sagitta as the closest one you can get to a femcel but she definitely fucked some of Lee's men and/or the farmers. And if not that then some furfag shit guaranteed.Then there's Thekla, she looks and sounds like a typical housewife. I think she has around a dozen bodies on her, being near to the city and living on the farm with other men. Assuming she grew up there before marrying her husband. She isn't a virgin but at least she fulfills the obedient wife part so good canditate regardless. Same shit for all the farm women, Edda. Hilda. Rosi, Sekob's wife is probably the nicest of them all but... she's married to fucking Sekob, fucking hell he probably sodomizes her every night the fat fuck coward.Onars wife same deal, probably fucks Lee the alpha male behind Onars back because women are opportunistic and hot chads dont rain from the sky. Gritta is a dumb hoe. Gold digger. Used goods. A complete dumbass.Cassia is the leader of the thieves guild so that says two things, she had a rough upbringing and being a woman she definitely had to fuck her way out of desperation enough to win the charm and time of men that eventually taught her enough for her to become a master. She of course could've learned on her own but a woman with power, skill and manipulation doesn't lend herself to chastity.Lucia fucks some random carpenter in town, gets kidnapped, gets railed by bandits day and night. Loves it so much can't keep a straight face writing down the letter asking 'forgiveness'. Then joins said bandits in jharkendar working in the local seed pit piss hole. Do you even need to think this one out?Nadjia and the whores in the port belong to the streets.
>>2782400This must be an edited pasta.
>>2782455>>2782690You too belong to the streets.
>>2782794Stupid pollack ESL
>>2782808Not even close, inbred whore. Guess I poked quite a few nerves over there.
I don't know how to install Odysseygoing to play archolos instead
In Gothic 2, the mercenaries have the best weapons, the paladins have the best armor, and the fire mages have the best magic (obviously).What are the gameplay differences between joining Gothic 1 camps? My take>Old CampAllows you to do serious magic as early as possible.>New CampUh.. smoothest armor transitions?>Swamp CampAllows you to do scroll magic early and low level magic as templar, kinda sucks?
>>2783174>Old campcrossbow training>new campyou can become mercenary right after joining the camp(there is no requirement other than just be new camper) also even earlier magic training than Old camp(mercs can just just request magic training lmao)>swamp campnot really that many advantages other than free heavy novice armor I guess?
>>2783182>you can become mercenary right after joining the campReally? Right in the first chapter? Why have I never done that then?
>>2773626>Going back from archolos to gothic 2 makes you realize khorinis is a fucking villageAnd yet it felt more alive and bigger than all the cities in Morrowind, Oblivion, Skyrim and all the Witchers.
I don't like how they made orcs smart in Gothic 3. That was what ruined everything.
>>2783249it makes some sense>Gothic 1 temple has symmetrical chambers, elaborate traps even portal that supposedly works across dimensions, yet somehow they are tribals >Gothic 2, orcs know how to build siege equipment, have far better scouts than humans, built palisade to hide their numbers and have fairly good grasp on siege tactics. Again for a bunch of grunting pretty impressive>humans somehow lose the war to bunch of axe wielding savagesthe only thing that makes no sense is how every orc is fluent in human language, occupation and war itself didn't last that long
>>2783260Orc men are simply superior to whitey in every way.
>>2783260Island orcs are just hicks. Myrtana ones likely had much more opportunities to interact with humans and learn their language.>>2783249Sleeper's temple clearly indicates they had somewhat advanced civilization that got fucked due to gods struggle, just like Jarkendar one. There are more than hints that both orcs and humans had iterations of advanced civilizations that got fucked.
>>2783182>mercs can just just request magic training lmaoWut? Aren't you confusing new with swamp camp(who can actually get magic training right away)?New camp only lets you learn magic in chapter 4
>spend >130 hours in Odyssey >epilogue>access violation if i try to visit Atanos for nostalgia quest>give up go for Vengard to end it>epilogue video doesn't have translationWhat a letdown. Ruined orgasm tier.
I'm playing Gothic 1 for the first time and the combat system is actually really fucking fun once you get used to it. I didn't expect it to be such a competent action game with all the Morrowind comparisons floating around.I almost feel about about going fire mage because I just want to hit shit with melee weapons.
>>2783807Also this shit was a welcome surprise.
what's the sweet spot for one handed weapon training in Gothic 2 Notr, 100% seems rather rather difficult to achieve even with tablets
>>2776692no, most modders are autistic retards
>>2784757Tablets + book from the merchant in upper quarter + 10% ring from Jharkendar make it pretty easy to reach 100. You only need to train to 60 or so.
>Bro save me!>B-b-but not that way, we have to tour the colony first
how come Adanos never intervened when heads started to roll but was more than willing to enforce his "clean slate" when his actions had no benefit?
>>2782400This well-spoken but apparently insincere man omitted the best girl in Gothic 2, Sarah. Explain this.
about to finish G2 againI think I had my fun with Gothic for nowsee you in a year or so
>>2786749You will come back for History of Khorinis
>>2785811Sarah goes to jail. I think we know what happens to her there and we don't need to expand on that. It's nice that you virtue signaller beta males "save" her from Kantar but literally nobody wants to lose access to traders because of pussy.
>>2786832I kill Canthar because I hate that piece of shit. Saving Sarah comes second.
>>2786849Same, how do you kill him? In the beginning with the fists or stick at the farm is the most alpha way.
>he got blackmailed by the "Merchant"speak to him in farmer's clothes and he won't peddle his pass to you nor will he blackmail you>but muh discount, muh frying pan!run around town's wall towards the tavern at crossroads, just where Erol sits there is frying pan near ambushed cart
>>2777073Yeah, its suprising they went with a prequel to end a trilogy
>>2777978Fallout Louisiana blues
>>2783413>Sleeper's temple clearly indicates they had somewhat advanced civilization that got fucked due to gods struggle, just like Jarkendar one. There are more than hints that both orcs and humans had iterations of advanced civilizations that got fucked.Underrated
>>2786891I can understand the wall since you get massive bonus xp from Lares if you swim across but>running across the map for a frying pan just to save 10 goldlmaoing @ your life mate
>>2786910>across the mapit's literally 5 minutes off the path if you want to min max
>>2786866Based but I sell him out to Andre, then visit him in jail, listen to him gloat, then quicksave, cast sleep on the guard and burn through my scrolls on Canthars monkeypoxxed ass.
>>2786832Ah, so people who pick a nice, decent, self-sufficient, lonely woman over a literal piece of shit, are somehow inferior to your submissive gay ass who likes to go "No please, daddy Kantar, I'll be a good boy, I'll do anything just don't cut me off from merchants for a ficking few days... Now can you please show me your trade inventory? Oooh it's sooo big!"Opinion discarded, Gothic 2 re-established as a waifu-test passing game.
you forgot Elena, Onar's daughterit would be hilarious to see him seethe even more than usual if nameless hero fucked her
>>2786978Which would piss him off more, if you fucked her as a mercenary or as a militiaman?
>>2786982>King's troops sucked my lands dry!>now Elena sucks off that Militiaman, hah that will show them!>...>wait a minute...
I'm playing through Gothic 3 as a mage, is the general tip to just plow through all the sidequests and then commit to a faction? I'm pretty overleveled right now (mana regen+over 500 AK) so I feel like I could bulldoze through everything but I don't want to start liberating towns just yet if that means locking myself out of stuff in the future.
>>2786832>Sarah goes to jail. If you appear before Kantar in nice clothes for the first time the plot of him trying to get rid of Sarah won't trigger. She will retain her marketplace and he will sit on bench in city.
Is a bow seriously mandatory to progress through the temple of the sleeper? This is bullshit.
>>2787063G3 late game is absolute garbage as a mage because you have to run away and channel cast for a few seconds when without timestop you are not going to be allowed to do so. The worst areas are the tight spaces of the variant temples where you need line of sight and you can't even maneuver.
>>2787600I'm effortlessly destroying everything except the large orc camps, takes some trial and error to group them all without having my rain of fire being interrupted, worst case scenario I just chug mana potions and snipe them all from afar with fireball
anyone tried bow/crossbow build for gothic 3?I always kind of veered off towards melee or magic
>>2787652seems like its just worse than melee and magic in every way
>>2774041Dirty Swamp (just got an English release a few days ago) and Brotherhood of the Sleeper are really good ones.