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So I'm seeking to have a romance on the side with the Tiefling girls since I've learned that you can do that. But I don't know how to put them in my team without unbalancing it. I just need to replace one person.

>team
Val (Tank), Me (melee DPS), Amiri (melee DPS), Linzi (Support/Utility), Tristian (Healing/Support), Octavia (magical DPS/some Utility).

I understand that the girls are generally DPS and strikers. But Octavia is too viable to replace since she can also deactivate traps like no other. What would you do?
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The tiefling girls are one party member until the last chapters, drop Amiri. And I would also drop Linzi for either Jubilost or Ekundayo because I'm a filthy powergamer
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>>2592117
Why is Oct deactivating your trap when Linzi can do it easily? Bards not only get a shit ton of skillpoints they have extra trap feat crap and those bard skill reroll mechanic they get every few level where you can rejigger your skills sort of like mages and the spell specialization stuff.

She's your obvious choice to replace with a raw blaster if that's the only thing hanging you up. However you do sort of need some of the spell utility like dispel and mirror image (which really you want on your tank through an alchemical infusion so oct is out anyway)

An easy swap would be amiri, if you don't want to redo your trapping setup which I understand. You'll hurt for dps at first while the goats ramp up w/levels because their ramp up is kind of linear and slow but they won't die as much in the backline either.
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>>2592117

This guy >>2592125 is correct, but to really powergame you should compress your party down to four members at which point packing in everything you need actually gets interesting. It also puts you two levels ahead when you turn off shared xp.
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>>2592125
>>2592126
>>2592127
So pretty much Amiri huh? Worry if that'd hurt my frontline. I play a monk, so not exactly a frontliner that can take punishment. Unless I go Crane all the time.

As for traps, my Octavia's gone the arcane trickster route and can ranged legerdemain anything with trickery 24 + 5 trapspringer gloves. She's the master of unlocking lol.
Linzi mainly excels in all Knowledges.
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>>2592140
Monk just keeps ramping up in AC if you're abusing any of dex, wis or cha depending on what else kind of monk build you're doing and yeah you should be abusing all the crane feat, it's powergaming 101 for this.

Esp. LG monk because they get a robe with stupid AC and everyone gets +5 bracers monk is out tanking TSS built valerie quite often.

Call of the Wild mod can equalize a lot of this, can't say enough good things about that mod but you'll also want to redo your party from scratch with it.
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>>2592140
>I play a monk, so not exactly a frontliner that can take punishment
Lol
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>>2592169
I'm a strength monk so I'll have to abuse dex and wisdom. I hope it'll suffice then, I'll playtest it for the power of love.

Thank you very much.
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>>2592196
np have fun fren
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>>2592117
Replace Linzi or Amiri.
I recommend Linzi due to later game progression reasons.
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>>2592195
Monks are garbage unless you know how to build them. Only a true autist would know how to make them viable.
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>>2592720
>get STR
>get DEX
>get WIS or CHA
>get big stick
>????????
>profit
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My greatest disappointment in this game was I couldn't slam my lawful good paladin cock into amiris tight wild bush. I wanted to tame her barbaric womb with my civilized dick. I wanted to colonize her untamed pussy with my seed.
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>>2592732
You either know that's not all of it, or you don't and you're just trolling.
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>>2592117
Just download the mod that lets you take every party member with you at once.
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>>2593129
Didn't know this existed. That sounds unbalanced as fuck though.
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>>2592720
>garbage unless you know how to build them
that goes for every class
the difference is that when you do know how to build them, the monk is still kinda meh, while many other classes are actually good
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>>2592814
Sorry man, Paizo iconic character.
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>>2593193
Reminder, once again, that the "Paizo doesn't want players romancing their iconics" thing was just a myth and they actually wanted the opposite.

It's entirely on Owlcat. For some reason.
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>>2592814
She doesn't get nearly enough fanart..
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>>2593205
>sparrow
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>>2592117
Octavia is the best utility by far. Once you turn her into an arcane trickster she can use the ranged lockpick skill to retry lockpicking over and over again.
Val is a fine tank once you've stacked AC.
Tristian's healing is unrivaled.

So you can probably cut both Amiri and Linzi without much trouble as they don't really provide anything to the team. The Tieflings are pure DPS. Starting off combat with a wall and a maximized empowered composite blast is great. Once you get to level 13 they become gamebreakingly powerful. Deadly earth on its own is strong enough to easily take care of every fight for the entire rest of the game.
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>>2593231
what's wrong with him?
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>>2593196
Owlcat didn't want to mess up with pre-established characters probably because fans already have their headcanons about these characters, for ex, many people think amiri is a lesbian (even though there is little evidence supporting it, and plenty against it).
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>>2592732
>making a MAD monk
You should stop posting
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>>2593531
>implying it matters in a game where you're swimming in attribute raising items before level 10
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>>2593718
I am an S+ tier minmax buildchad and those items kind of annoy me since they are specifically designed so buildlets who don't know how to avoid MAD cancer by default don't get too screwed.

They actually push monks higher toward the OPest of classes ranks because of the inherent MAD nature of the monk. They'd be the actual S++ top except that Sword Saint exists for micromanaging jank lovers.

I use and abuse them ofc, but DnD wasn't really built to have + stat items rolling out of every chest. It wasn't built to have 25 CR1 encounters per map either so eh.

I need to design an ARPG that puts all this bullshit to bed once and for all, my five minute daydreams are better than most published designs.
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>>2593196
>>2593521
But then they let us do it anyway in Wrath
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>>2594042
If you mean Arueshalae, that's because Arue in the AP was meant from the start to be a romantic interest for the PCs, so that's an intrinsic part of her storyline. Also, she's not an iconic, so it's not quite the same case anyway, not that it actually matters since as said, Paizo never actually made a "no fucking the iconics" rule.
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>>2594042
Arueshalae is not iconic, Seelah is. Iconic doesnt mean by Paizo™. They are prefabricated characters that people use to roleplay as when they are not feeling like making their own character.
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>>2592117
Lord have mercy if these demons were real my soul would be FUCKED.
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>>2592117
I want to breed this Tiefling
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>>2594190
I wasn't aware of that. But if it's just a premade character for lazy players....why care? It's not like a person RPing as Seelah will never choose to romance someone.
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>>2594392
It's 2 tieflings so even better
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>>2594396
Russians are retarded
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>>2593231
Porn for Kingmaker is scarce as is. You can be picky if you want, but there is much out there.
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game is on sale with all the dlc? is it worth it, or should I just get the base game? I've never really been into these types of games and don't know if this would be a good place to start
I'm more of an arpg person and would be playing with a controller
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>>2595055
Just pirate it. And even if you decide to buy it, you can pirate the DLCs with creamapi if you are buying the steam version, GOG version should just work right away by downloading the DLC files.
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Bros...she's (Your) shield. She might be a bit autistic, but she's loyal and true. Why no love for Valerie?
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>>2595299
Yes Anon your Right.
Shes the Perfect Wife
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>>2595299
>>2595316

Post more Pics of Valerie
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>>2595299
One day I will replay Kingmaker, JUST to take screenshots of the whole "Valerie decides to side with the pitaxian spy over you" dialogue, so I can post it any time anyone says Valerie is loyal.
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>>2595299
Ironically, she's a shitty tank. That body is made for breeding, though.
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>>2596141
Isn't that like 5 minutes into the game before she knows anything about you, and it's if you're being a giant asshole?
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>>2596152
No, you're thinking of Tartuccio on the tutorial. I'm talking about the Pitax nobleman that visits your barony before the troll attack begins and who you can then encounter again and save from trolls if you let him go. He then tells you straight to your face that even though he appreciates your help, he's still going to tell Irovetti exactly how all your defences and resources are set up and advice him on when's the best moment to attack you. If you tell him you're not letting him go after saying that, Valerie fucking turns on you and declares she will protect him. Only reason she doesn't go through with it is because he then calls her pretty.
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>>2595299
Val bros, not enough fan art...
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>>2595299
I spit on valanon's grave and his shit wife!
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>>2595299
>woe is me. I'm too pretty.
>life is hard when your pretty.
>gets scarred.
>wow. Why won't anyone pay attention to me now.
I had a hearty kek when I got to this part. Fuckin nutter cunt needed to be knocked down a peg. Also why are almost all the love interests in this game horrible people? Only the good one of the demon sisters is okay the rest are terrible people.
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>>2596522
Best i could find
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>>2596680
The writers live in Russia, this is just how the average Russian acts.
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Here's a traced one.

>>2596705
Based drawfag.
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More Valerie, please.
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>>2596705
Anyone know who the artist is?
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>>2592720
No, that's 3.5's Monk. Monk is one of the better martials in Kingmaker because it's using the Unchained version.
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>>2596964
I wish he had more styles though other than Crane and Dragon. I think that neither Wrath has more than 2.
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>>2597046
There are a few mods that help with that I'm pretty sure.
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You did merge the stolen land with the first world didnt you anon?
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>>2596155
>Valerie: i believe in following the law, no exceptions
>Charname: ok well by all rights i am the law and sole authority. It is my barony
>Valerie: ok but i what i meant was do what I tell you to because ummm....just do it ok. I AM THE LAW
This comes up so many times during the game. What an absolute shit character
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Bros i want to hear your opinions on what is the best duelist build for you, pure Aldori defender or the prestige class, etc?
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>>2597274
Fey get executed on sight in my kingdom
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>>2596155
In fairness all you said was Pitaxian Spy and that does describe him
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>>2597274
I did. My baron/king will now spend eternity fucking his so-hot-she-mindbreaks-people nymph wife on top of a giant elephant capital.
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>>2597507
I've played a little bit as an Aldori Defender and eventually Swordmaster. It's fun. You hit like a truck and you have good AC. It's also thematic storywise if you wanna side with the Aldoris.
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>>2597978
>Swordmaster
*Swordlord
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>>2597300
>What an absolute shit character
Spring is the season you plant crops, anon.
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>>2592117
drop either amiri or val
you shouldn't have been a monk in the first place lmao
imagine needing to get close to the enemies to hurt them hahaha
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>>2592125
>Dropping Bard buffs rather than dropping Val+Tristian for Harrim who does both their jobs at once.
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>>2598034
Ranged attacks are for fags that are weak and afraidof gettinghurt. Monk is the strongest class because it gets right to the enemy face and murders him with 10 attacks per second without needing armor, weapons or gay magic shit. Its just you and your superior chad genetics.
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>>2598038
>dropping Bard buffs rather than dropping Val & Tristian for Harrim who fails at bother their jobs at once
I wonder why. Away with you, Harrimnigger, nobody likes your faggot dwarf.
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Rangernigger is a must in every party, but only because of his pet. Extra char dealing tons of damage under all the buffs is really fucking op.
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>>2598111
**Rangernigga
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>>2598004
cringe
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>>2598004
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>>2597300
Worst part is, she doesn't even have a different set of laws to quote from in those situations. It's the fucking Stolen Lands, there was no law before you got there. Even the River Truths or whatever, which were the closest thing there was, all came down to "only thing that's not allowed is slavery".

GUESS ONE OF THE FUCKING TIMES SHE TRIES TO CONTRADICT YOU ON YOUR DECISION. HINT: IT INVOLVES SLAVERY.
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>>2598240
>Stolen Lands, there was no law before you
that scene on the bridge late game
>shady merchant price gouging refugees
>Charname: WTF is this shit. Knock it off before I knock your block off
>Valerie: ACKSHUALLY you have no right to stop him but now that i think about it this is the frontier and there is really no law out here and you are the rightful baron so you should be able do what you like but um......don't do it. What was I saying again
>MFW reading this actual dialog
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>>2598109
I normally play cleric so I don't run Harrim, but Val is absolute trash and Tristian has a fucking horrible stat spread.
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>>2598004
>simping for this
I hate you thristy virgins
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>>2596680
>why are almost all the love interests in this game horrible people?

This is what I'd like to know. I just don't like any of the 'love interests' enough to put up with their crap, let alone try for a romance.
The only character I'd like would be Linzi, but 1: She doesn't swing that way, and 2: Plot happenings.
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>>2598279
A woman that can punch the shit out of a CE orc, and makes him bleed, deserves my attention.
And a couple needs balancing to work well, and as a LN she'd balance my CG character.
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>>2596680
The extra level of irony being this >>2598279 is the face everyone is supposedly gushing over. It makes her seem like an insane delusional narcissist that she's a 10 because some local yokels gave her some attention
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How do you actually get Valerie's farmer ending? I've finished the game three times and the worst i ever got was the Hellknight ending. I don't understand where the memes come from
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>>2598322
There's a camp conversation where I think Octavia teases Linzi about having a crush on one of the Knights of Avistan (one of the books she reads), so she might have been bi.

Not that it really matters...
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>>2598342
Fail any of her quests.
>I don't understand where the memes come from
Started as a meme when at Kingmakers launch there was a bug where you would romance Valerie but still get her bad ending where she marries a farmer. It's really impossible to get the farmer ending if you actually do her quests. People like >>2598004 just parrot memes.
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>>2596705
she looks like a 14 year old russian boy here
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>>2598322
Linzi simps are even worse than val simps....
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Why is it so hard to find a dam wizard hat in this game? I k ow there's a few I tenebreous depths and one in lonely barrow but those are all near endgame.
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>>2593192
>That goes for every class.

Mystic Theurge is, and always will be, complete garbage in Kingmaker, even with "Call of the Wilds" installed.
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>>2593196
>For some odd reason.

If you haven't noticed, Amiri isn't some crypto-pervert, or a woman secretly longing for love. She is completely uninterested in anything outside of the battlefield and her fragile ego. It would be like making Jubilost a romanceable party member - completely out of character.
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>>2598336
You haven't played far into the game, haven't you? Or didn't pay attention. It's part of her personal plot that she's conceited.
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>>2598432
You don't need to be secretly longing for love to fall in love, you know. Valerie was even less into the idea of love and guess who became a romance option.
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>>2598346
Don't fret. As farmer fertilizes the soil each season for a bountiful harvest, so does he plows Valerie every evenin in order to grow a large family.
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>>2598279
I like here
i think its interesting how a character that was made to follow some stupid rules against her entire life ends up with such a massive Lawcomplex that she even turns against the player.
The strict life her order chose for her clearly doesnt work for her but she has no idea how to life normal and also no desire to life as free like octavia for example so he just replaces the laws the order emposed on her with the next best of laws and becomes totaly loyal to anyone she serves.
Over the course of the game she comes to an middleground of dogmatic adherence to someones orders and laws and her own interests.
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>>2598432
Getting horny is a vertebrate thing, you know, and simple minded people are more inclined to get horny than others.
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>>2598438
You forgot the scar
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>>2598438
>>2598480
Wait i'm blind, i thought that was a wrinkle lel
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>>2598468
Yeah see, here's the problem. The game tries to sell you that her personality is "utterly loyal, but also uncompromising about the laws". Problem is, she can't both be utterly loyal and so readily turn against the player, her ruler. And worse, she can't be uncompromising about the laws when she WON'T EVEN FUCKING SAY WHAT FUCKING LAWS IS SHE UNCOMPROMISING ABOUT.

Is it the Stolen Lands laws? Can't be, there's no laws in the Stolen Lands, there's only the player. Is it the laws of Restov? Are you seriously telling Restov, the FREE CITY OF RESTOV, CHAOTIC NEUTRAL ALIGNED CITY-STATE, whose ruler is a Mayor that's not even from nobility, holds the laws that she seems to defend most during the game? So is the laws of her old paladin order? The fucking SHELYN paladins? Valerie is autistic about laws, but where the FUCK is she taking these laws from? And before she was a guard at Restov she was a wandering mercenary. Seriously, where the fuck did she even take these ideals from? Whose example is she following? Lawful characters don't just suddenly come up with a set of laws nobody has ever heard about and then act as if everyone should know them like the back of their hands. Did she make a quick run to Cheliax during her mercenary period, decide she liked the place, and decide the whole world runs by their laws without asking for permission?

Not to mention the hypocrisy of what she says and how she acts. All that talk about duty and loyalty, but the entire basis of her backstory is how she abandoned her duty to her family, to her order and to her mentor. And if her philosophy was "You should be able to choose what laws to follow, but actually stick to them once you have" it'd be understandable, but there's places in the game where she'll berate people for not doing the duty they got from simply being born.
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>>2598492
>>2598468
And I forgot to mention, how fucking flimsy she is about her own ideals as well, because as I mentioned earlier, the only reason she doesn't go through with turning on you with that pitaxian nobleman is because he literally just says he's glad the hot one is siding with him. That's it. That's enough for Valerie to betray her own ideals.

Goddamn, I actually can't stand that character.
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>>2598004
>>2598438
i'm sorry drawfag. you deserve more (You)s but you're about three years too late
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>>2598468
>totaly loyal to anyone she serves.
Except she's not and constantly tries to either undermine or coerce you into making completely arbitrary or immoral decisions. She's like a NE narcissist that thinks she's LN
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>>2598480
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>>2598474
When amri gets horny she just gets gangbanged by an entire company of mercenaries
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>>2598518
>This fucking shit again
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>>2598514
this, if you reinforce that behavior she joins the hellknights. i feel like a lot of companions are in a "halfway point" where you either go one way or another way. honestly every companion in kingmaker is a garbage person who you need to tardwrangle to so they don't fucking kill themselves or drive themselves into ruin.
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>>2598518
>Not offering up Reg's ass instead
He ought to be used to it too
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>>2598521
Its Canon. Deal with it
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>>2598526
Well I wasn't expecting anybody to get RUSTDAWGED at all. Not that I care about a gross barbarians sexual habits
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>>2598534
Can you post it? I don't remember the slide, it's been a while since I played
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>>2598527
>>2598534
Worst part is, I can never fucking tell when it's someone just shitposting or if anyone actually bought that narrative.
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>>2598544
Maybe someone else has a screencap
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>>2598547
She will never be your waifu
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>>2598557
Nice to see that you do indeed not give a shit about what actually happens in the event
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>>2598544
>>2598562
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>>2598570
Now post the triumph and failure texts.
And the success with Jamandi's stuck up son as general as well.
And then say that about autists again.
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>>2598570
>>2598574
does jamandi's son take it up the ass too?
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>>2598580
It's the exact same text, and none of them take anything at all, because the point is that they got into a bar brawl. The triumph text is that all the mercenaries were beaten and bruised the day after and the captain is impressed, and the failure text is that your general returns the next day with a black eye.
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>>2598574
>autismo thinks he can gives orders
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>>2598586
I accept your concession.
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>>2598580
>>2598580
>It's the exact same text
No
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>>2598593
Yes it is. All three generals get the same descriptions in all three results.
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>>2598598
Prove it
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>>2598599
Yeah hold on a second I'm gonna reinstall this 4 year old game and speedrun to the midpoint where that event happens to post a screenshot right now.
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>>2598570
god i wish i were a rusty dog...
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>>2598600
I accept your concession. This how you correctly use this btw
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>>2598603
I bet you couldn't even find that screenshot you pulled without treading through an old thread full of people calling the ones trying to pretend that was really a gangbang coomers and retards, because this shit was common knowledge even four years ago.
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>>2598606
>anon loses and has a complete meltdown
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>>2598602
Based
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>>2598599
i can confirm that all generals get the same result.
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>>2598603
>This how you correctly use this btw
You were the one who first refused to post proof that was asked for, retard
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>>2598570
Rusty Dogs...
Dogs and White women...
Checks out.
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>>2598635
Seething samefag
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>>2598642
lmao faggot
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kek, this thread is so shit
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>>2598603
Kek
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>>2598654
Don't worry, it can be made even worse ;^).
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>>2598694
He will eventually calm down and stop samdfagging
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>>2598694
Finish what you started.
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>/v/ thread was deleted
dafaq?
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>>2598841
Now I love her even more
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>>2598841
you'll be waiting a long time
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>>2598841
post more
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>>2598841
You're a degenerate, but I respect you. Good shit.
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>"Done and done!"
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>>2598492
>le stronk feminist has the usual schizo double standards since she is written by the usual suspects that only have double standards
Unsurprising to say the least, but dumb lunkhead tomboy + tsundere qualities make her a little endearing anyway.
Still I look for reasons to get rid of her and use the infinitely superior Jaethal instead but I don't always want evil parties.
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>>2598841
MOAR
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I just came here to say that I love Valerie
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>bugged game doesn't recognize jubilost's quest choice and dies at the time house.
how can I edit the save so the retarded game plays the choices I made?
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>>2598918
your waifu should learn her place as the king's baby maker. it's inevitable.
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>>2598918
Gross. Read the thread
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PLOWED
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>>2598919
Bag of tricks has a feature to edit quest flags iirc
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Reminder that Valerie does eventually give you children in her ending, because blahblahbalh queen regent she's too busy serving you or some shit. As opposed to the ending where she's retired with no self worth.
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At least kids are mentioned in Valerie's ending. In Wrath you get fucking nothing. Even the token anime romance has her living in some cuckshed by herself.
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>>2598951
She lives innawoods even if you romance her? Wtf
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>>2598951
they really made a cuck out of arue. when you break up with her for another she acts thankful for you and watches you
>>2598955
yes, while you go out partying in absalom with woljif and daeran along with doing experiments with nenio.
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All these bakas using Val as a tank and dealing with her autismo instead of going with the Chad Jaethal Cha tank
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>>2598960
>and watches you
>all this gay and tranny shit in the game but a demigod chad can't be poly
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>>2599032
Thats a pretty smug dog.
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>>2599032
ahh, booba
nice detail, unironically. i know this is just a sketch but it's the little shit like the teeth and the earrings
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>>2599054
I will rape you to death after making you sign a contract declaring your allegiance to Desna
Keep your retarded polyshit in your furry fanfictions
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>>2599081
>noooooooo you can't have a threesome with a sububus now read about this gay marriage
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>>2599054
>>2599081
I said poly but what I actually meant was a harem for PC. Aru obviously wants it as a cuckqueen
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>>2597274
>anon thinks I let any f*y in my kingdom.
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>>2597274
Haha of course not...
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>>2597274
Of course, who wouldn't want a literal fairytale kingdom?
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>>2598436
Despite her claims, Valerie is narcissistic and vain, and is secretly enjoying the attention she gets. That's literally part of her plotline.
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>>2599081
You mean like the canon trans lesbian interacial marriage that's thrown right in your face from the very start of the game?
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>>2599089
>>2599898
Gay marriage is cringe, trannies are cringe and guess what, faggots? Polyshit is just as cringe. You may not like it but I'm speaking the truth. Pick one quality waifu you absolute doubleniggers.
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>>2599909
>nooooooooooo you can't fuck more than one girl at the same time
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>>2599898
What couple are you talking about?
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>>2599932
anevia and irabeth, you only find out about anevia being a tranny in chapter 5 and you have to ask and pass like a 50 dc persuasion check but anevia is indeed trans
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>>2599943
She's not a fucking tranny, she used magic to transform into a real woman, womb included. It's a fucking fantasy setting where Transmutation is an entire school of magic, and shapeshifting is a common practice.
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>>2599951
If you use magic to deliberate change your gender you're a tranny. Every irl tranny wishes they could just take a magic potion
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>>2599951
If you go from a cock and balls to a pussy or vice versa you are a goddamn tranny. You need to accept this fact. It might not be as grotesque as any modern axewounds but it's still trannyism.
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Would you refuse to slam a copy of prime Scarlet Johansson because magic happened and it's a dude inside?
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>>2599967
Scarlet was already amab
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>>2599967
It dosent matter because you'll never be a woman
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>>2599943
Are you talking about Kingmaker or the Sequel?
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>>2600014
Sequel.
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>>2600025
Thanks.
I only played Kingmaker without the Dlc.
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>>2600000
kek be praised!
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>>2600000
Digits confirm.
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>>2599951
But if she used magic to change her gender would the magic effect eventually run out and she would return to being a guy?
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>>2600000
Gr00000mers BTFO for eternity by our humble little board.
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>>2592117
I'm a goody-two-shoes player for the most part, but damn if the evil characters aren't fun on occasion.
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>>2598468
I remember hating Reg on my first try with the game but after I benched Octavia he became so much more fun, just a murder-rape-machine to unleash on everything that keeps doing shitty jokes everyone ignores
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>>2595299
>>2595316
I miss that Valerie-kin schizo poster from a few years back. I hope him and his wives are having fun on Wrath of the Righteous after the gay tranny mods perma.bannes him.
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>>2600196
He's kind of just an average magus anon. Not sure what you mean
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>>2598935
Yeah, but now I gotta play "find the flag that actually works"
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>>2600000
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>>2595299
Is Stalward Defender a Good choiche for Valerie.

Im thinking of replaying kingmaker now and on my first playthrough maxing out Dex and Con with 10lvs in Tower shild and 10in Stalward Defender worked well.
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>>2592117
Just came to say I love Octavia. Brunette women who are intelligent but also girly with cute English accents is my fetish.

Pity she got Greened but such is gaming in current year, so I choose not to acknowledge that unfortunate reality.
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>>2598570
>needing an inn for "battle"
>"battle skills" in quotes instead of just battle skills

I've never seen this before and it is indeed made 10x funnier by the fact that there are terminally autistic notrpgtards here that have never touched a pussy.
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>>2598585
>failure text is that your general returns the next day with a black eye
they must have facefucked her hard then lmao
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>>2598570
>>2598574
>"Key": "ca6b4ceb-c0c6-4b8d-8250-ef8ddcda8104",
>"Value": "The General personally invited the Rusty Dogs to the finest inn around. The next day a message came. The mercenary captain sang praises of the General's \"combative spirit\", whom the Dogs have already begun to serve!"

>"Key": "1a54164c-68f0-4abe-8a0f-30979b3d9de1",
>"Value": "Not thinking much of it, the General took the Dogs to the nearest inn. Appearing the next morning with a black eye, {mf_General|he|she} reported that negotiations are at a standstill."
Don't remember seeing the first one anywhere.
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Which AP would be the best and most unpozzed after these two? I both liked Kingmaker's comfyness and Wrath's epic theme.
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>>2600923
Using /v/tard buzzwords means you get the rope either way. Kill yourself.
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>>2600923
Hell's Vengeance.
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>>2600968
Does it take place in Cheliax?
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>>2600186
Make sure you reward your goat for being good at economics, anon.
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>>2601004
Going full devil would be interesting.
What terrible mini-game would ruin it, though?
I remember an anon bringing up an AP that was about building a trade caravan. That might be fun. I just hope that if more games come out, they don't all try to match the "epic/mythic" feel that Wrath has.
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>>2592117
I know I'm late but considering your comp:
>Amiri
If your MC is not retardedly built you can confidently take her out for another ranged DPS no problem. In fact it will likely help you by not getting your squad bottlenecked in close quarters. Although since you don't have best nigga, Ekun, it will not be as big of a problem since his fuckhueg dog is not in your squad.

>Linzi
Whatever utility she can provide I can guarantee you Octavia + Trist can do the same and better. Another DPS won't really hurt you by taking her out. She's also a shit character so there's that too.

Neither Kanerah or Kalikke are casters and they won't be replacing Octavia at all, unless you're using her exclusively for evocation shit, which would be weird. The cool thing is that you can use Kalikke as an off-healer when in a pinch and Kanerah to absolutely nuke the shit out of single target characters with her blue flame infusion.

>>2594596
>tfw zero Jaethal porn
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>>2600638
Yes, it complements her tanking focus quite well, but know that you'll forgo some offensive potential by going for SD, but that's not really a big deal at all, but if she can't hit an AoO when an enemy decides to just walk away then you will be at the mercy of the AI by how often it decides to just take the chance to walk towards your juicy casters.

>>2600186
Same. I don't know who inside Owlcat is responsible for it, but they can write their Evil character pretty fucking well more often than not. Jaethal's quest line is pure kino, Kanerah is just great, Regill is so fucking based that he hates gnomes himself, Camellia is my favorite patrick bateman and Regongar is not bad for a chaotic evil cuck.
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>>2592117
>when you realize he's the kind of "bad boy" women want
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>>2601500
a mutt with daddy issues that they can freely cuck?
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>>2601527
don't post my karla to reply to regongarposters
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>>2601500
A broken buck who screams in the sheets while getting his ass ravaged by a large barbarian man while his Octavia watches?
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How long is Kingmaker approximately? I'm around level 11 first-timer and I'm starting to crave a Fey/naturalist playthrough. But I don't want to start one just now since it'll take like forever to finish them all.
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about tree fiddy and 100h
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>>2601647
meant for >>2601641
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>>2592814
Abadar bless you
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>>2600186
She wasting her talents with adventuring
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>>2601647
>>2601649
Damn boi. Thanks anon.
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>>2601683
>their are actually valsimps on my board
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>KVRHH
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>>2601387
We already had devils and demons and divine battles in Wrath though. What about something different like an occult/gothic campaign or something truly unusual?
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>>2599955
So, on one hand you have:
>a man who takes hormones and dresses as a woman, maybe plus fake tits,

On the other:
>has a vagina, womb, and uterus,
>female bone structure,
>female chromosomes,
>real tits,
>no pronounced Adam's Apple,
>can have children,

And you say both are the same? Methinks you love trannies secretly.
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>>2603043
See
>>2600000
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>>2601527
More like complete "OOON BOONGA" masculine retard yet easy to influence and submissive
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>>2603664
Same thing
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>>2602426
>Truly unusual
It's Ruins of Azlant or bust, you get to meet the immortal Azlanti Illuminati and get involved with their shadow war against Aboleths. They don't consider non-Azlanti humans people and are totally willing to kill everyone on the planet to make sure all the aboleths are dead
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Anons, do you know if Call of the Wild works with the latest version of KM (2.1.7)? Because the description in Nexus only mention versions 2.0.8 and 2.1.5.
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>>2604720
Works for me as long as my toaster doesn't sperg out.
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>>2604755
Thanks anon it worked. What would be the essential mod list for the most PnP-like experience in your opinion? Call of the Wild and Favored Class I get. Is there anything else?
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>>2605759
Crafting is kinda essential pnp stuff, I believe Call of the Wild's creator mentions a couple of compatible or recommended mods on the CoW nexus page.

>

My other mods you might be interested in:
Proper Flanking 2 - flanking, combat maneuver and cover mechanics similar to pnp
Favored Class - racial favored class bonuses and traits
KingmakerAI - experimental mod that aims to enhance enemy ai and provides auto-buff options for player characters


>Other suggested mods:
>Turn-Based mod
>A Touch Of Magic - arcane archer and deadeye devotee prestige classes
>Races Unleashed - more player races
>Derring-Do - swashbuckler class

>Using Closer to Tabletop mod is not advised since it is not fully supporting all related COTW features, use Proper Flanking 2 instead.
>Do not use Undead Immunities Fix mod, since similar changes are already included in COTW and might conflict with each other.
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How would one go about tank Jaethal? 5 TSS, rest inquisitor?
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>>2606167
>Turn-Based Mod
The game already has one.

>Derring-Do
Filled with bugs, hasn't been updated.

>KingmakerAI
Complete shit, every single enemy goes straight for your spellcasters, which is ridiculously easy to exploit.
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>>2600709
i liked her personality but hated the bullshit she put you through. fortunately she realizes she was being an asshole and apologizes and you can convince her that monogamy is cool.
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>>2606224
Not using any of those myself, either, just thought I would bring them up for discussion since that's straight from the CotW page.
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>>2600638
>all the companions have a miniature in the Kingmaker miniature line
Honestly pretty cool. Hope they continue doing this. They can't do it with Wrath since that set was released in 2014, but hopefully they do manage to put them in a future line.
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>>2592117
Try dropping Amiri. The Goats are better anyways... Even better, stop romancefagging.
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>>2592126
Hi Casual. Let me correct your perception of this game's mechanics
>Why is Oct deactivating your trap when Linzi can do it easily? Bards not only get a shit ton of skillpoints they have extra trap feat crap and those bard skill reroll mechanic they get every few level where you can rejigger your skills sort of like mages and the spell specialization stuff.
The person who does the disarm is the one with the highest skill if you're selecting the entire party. Second, Octavia is built to be an Arcane Trickster (rogue/wizard multi). She only needs one more sneak attack die from the feat and maximize the amount of wizard levels she has. This results in legerdemain which enables ranged disarms as well. She also has more than enough skill points due to her INT to run both wizard skills, perception, and trickery. Second, before level 10, the only advantage Linzi can get is the skill song which also applies to Octavia (so no real advantage). At level 10, her advantage is just a +1 anyways. Here skill advantages are primarily to Lore skills
>bard skill reroll mechanic
There is nothing along those lines in the game.
https://pathfinderkingmaker.fandom.com/wiki/Bard
Second, Octavia will be defaulted to due to high DEX bonus meaning high skill bonus for Trickery. Before level 10, Octavia is better. After level 10, Octavia may technically be equal to Linzi though the Legerdemain makes her better at it.
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>>2592126
>She's your obvious choice to replace with a raw blaster if that's the only thing hanging you up. However you do sort of need some of the spell utility like dispel and mirror image (which really you want on your tank through an alchemical infusion so oct is out anyway)
No. Dropping Octavia for the Goats isn't the correct choice as Octavia does have access to much of your buffs like Legendary proportions much earlier than other classes can, and higher level spells like Foresight.
>alchemical infusion
>mirror image
There is no mirror alchemist spell. The only way an alchemist can get it is by dipping into another class, using scrolls, or getting the gyrona amulet (which just gives the effect of mirror image to anyone that wears it in addition to an insight bonus to AC). Second, Alchemists being primarily buff spells do not have access to dispel until they get dispelling bombs. Whereas Wizards have access to that and more like Baleful Polymorph and a variety of other useful spells. Octavia should remain.

If anything, the only mistake is not making Valerie a Bardic tank (It's easily her strongest build--you use the mithril breastplates on her; before that you take off her armor to buff, then put the armor back on and then head into combat) to cover the Bard needs and still running Linzi. Linzi is better replaced with a dedicated alchemist. Not Octavia.
>An easy swap would be amiri, if you don't want to redo your trapping setup which I understand. You'll hurt for dps at first while the goats ramp up w/levels because their ramp up is kind of linear and slow but they won't die as much in the backline either.
Goats are better at dps than Amiri even at lower levels.
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>>2600000
UH... CHECKED
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>>2606765
>Even better, stop romancefagging.
I refuse.
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>>2600000
fucking checked
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Going back to try and play this and holy shit but the itemization is so bad.

Say what you will about Wrath, almost every single weapon type has a measured progression with upgrades or sidegrades often going each increment from +1 to +5. Kingmaker is schizo af in comparison.
>40 different kurkis because avellones horribly written pet companion uses them
>meanwhile there are only like 3-4 longswords and most of them are only findable when the game is 80% done
>even worse for stuff like bastard swords or god forbid unusual weapon types like tridents with them often only having a single unique weapon in the entire game
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lel
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>>2607059
To be fair, that's a common WRPG problem that persists to this very day for some reason, unfortunately. Even going back to "le perfect game" Morrowind, you see that they underrepresented the most common of all weapons: the spear. I can understand exotic weapons to be stronger but also rarer to find. But anything else like simple and martial weapons should be abundant in shops and armouries.
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>>2607059
>excellent greataxes everywhere including one almost handed to you as part of the main quest in the second chapter
>if you want a decent greatsword before the endgame you have to take it off the body of an npc
Admittedly it's one of the earliest legitimate +5 weapons you can get, but what the fuck.
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Anons am I missing something or is the Respec mod kind of redundant if you have bag of tricks? With the latter, you can keep adding money to change classes all the time, right? What's Respec's edge?
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>>2607182
You can respec your companions from scratch. Not sure if BoT has that.
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>>2607182
Respecs are tied into difficulty. You can't get the hard/unfair achievements with respecs turned on.
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>>2607189
>>2607190
Ah, ok got it.
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>>2593521
> many people think amiri is a lesbian
I've played pathfinder for like a decade. This is the first I've heard of anyone ever thinking Amiri was a lesbian. Amiri as an iconic, gets very little characterization, in the media they do show up in. The most interesting thing that happens to her is getting possessed by an ancient pharoh or some shit in a comic.

iirc the only ""canon"" relationships in the comics that are consistent or explicit throughout appearances is broadly
>Iconic Cleric(Kyra) and Iconic Rogue(Merisiel) being in lesbians with each other
>Iconic Fighter(Valeros) and Iconic Inquisitor(Irmjika?) are an on off thing depending on if they can see each other. Valeros is a manwhore otherwise.
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>>2594596
That image was made before the kingmaker vidya was a twinkle in someones eye.
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Is there a way to mod yourself and become truly undead? I know that bag of tricks lets you add Undead Creature and Undying, but what about the no constitution/charisma thing?
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>>2607848
Nvm thankfully I found it.





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