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I LOVE YOU MOMMY
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I'd breed her like you wouldn't believe.
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Enter best girl
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>>2360740
Does she actually have that scar? I think it's interesting
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>>2360712
Someone did.
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>>2360740
based spidercat enjoyer
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Does this game no longer have perception checks on the map to find certain locations? So can I just scout everything with my armies without missing any?
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WHAT YEAR IS IT!?
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>>2360973
poor Solaire, a charming character with a tragic story mostly remembered by some annoying fucking meme
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>>2360991
What build is he?
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>>2360995
Paladin, duh.
>>2360973
what is your build?
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>>2360740
Best girl, but the romance writing quality is not great :/
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>>2360995
Paladin or cleric into Dawnflower Anchorite
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Should I bother with Nenio companion quest, i've spoiled myself a little and it looks like an absolute unfun nightmare
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>>2361238
Do it at least once.
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What's the deal with this -2 DEX penalty? It's not because of fatigue or anything.
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>>2361243
is it even worth it, it sounds like cancer
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>>2361272
Size "Bonus" I guess.
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>>2361272
Size thing, pets grow at 7 and get bonus to str in exchange for penalty to dex
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I want to try lich but heard it cuts out romance in the end.
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>>2361276
Yes.
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>>2361407
>cuts out romance
yeah you'll be cutting out your romance alright haha
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>>2361410
uh?
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>>2361416
What would an edgelord do to his love interest?
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How do I solve those nigger slab puzzles?
Is this shit dominoes or some obscure garbage nobody knows?
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>>2361418
is it necesaary?
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>>2360701
How would a Divine Spellcaster that could copy Divine Spells like a Wizard and used the Cleric Spell list compare? Basically just a divine Wizard.
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>>2360995
Sarenrae Fighter/Paladin. Focus more on the martial side but use lightning spells liberally. Alternatively go pure Crusader Angel merged spellbook, then go dragon.
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>>2361422
Very necessary
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>>2360740
have fun with your ugly waifu
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>>2361564
All waifus deserve love.
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>>2361569
I disagree, but I respect your commitment
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>>2361569
this is a nice idea but come on man camellia deserves a bullet to the head
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>>2361431
So an archivist? It was considered OP back in 3.5e
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>>2360973
>only 1 male companion
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Quick! Which game had better companions per race?
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>>2361654
wotr
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>>2361654
>Human
Kingmaker: WotR only has nigger human companions, never noticed that before
>Elf
Tie: Really can't decide between the two, perfect opposites. Probably give the edge to Ember, she was more useful mechanically
>Dwarf
Kingmaker: Not even close. Greybor comes too late in the game, he's supposed to be an Assassin but can't even take the Assassin class and has no personality.
>Gnome
Tie: Probably the best companions from either game. Gun to head, I'd pick Regill for his personality even though Jubilost is stronger.
>Halfling
Kingmaker: Obv.
>Half-Elf
WotR: Actually like Octavia a lot and use her in almost every play through. But Camellia was close to a perfect NPC.
>Half-Orc
Kingmaker: Obv.
>Aasimar
WotR: Obv.
>Tiefling
Kingmaker: Woljif was just a worse Nok-Nok/Octavia, the sisters basically let you raise your party cap to 7.
>Other
Tie: Could do without Lann or Nenio, Arue is locked into too many levels of a shit class, but Wenduag is a great character in terms of story and build. Really can't pick between her and my gobbo bro.
>Hidden
Kingmaker: The WotR ones are mostly path-dependent and most are pretty shitty. The Kingmaker ones come too late to be all that helpful, but at least they're strong and useful.

TOTALS
Kingmaker: 6
WotR: 2
Tie: 3

WINNER: KINGMAKER
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the graphics and especially combat animations are so bad it makes me nauseous to play this for more than 15 minutes, yes i am part jewish
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Gonna play azata kineticist, but i want to do something other than trip spam

What element combos have the coolest stuff?
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>>2361564
Id still impregnate her
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>>2361707
I did fire + fire in my azata run, was pretty fun.
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>>2360995
He's a monk.
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>>2361595
>I want my PC to be surrounded by men at all times
bro?
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>>2361885
What if you're roleplaying a woman?
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>>2361963
>roleplaying a woman
bro???
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>>2361989
Wouldn't it be funny if I roleplayed as a woman who was addicted to cock haha
Wouldn't that be a funny scenario haha
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>>2361707
I'm playing a melee atm that went water then fire. Its been pretty fun so far still haven't decided on my 3 element.
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Start playing as a Instinctual Warrior Barbarian having lots of fun with it love the flavour of it.
Shame there are no equippable blindfold wanted to roleplay was a blind swordsman
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>>2361595
Do you really want Daeran, Sosiel or Lann in your party? I find all three to be rather obnoxious.
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>>2362092
Daeran and Lann are top tier
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>>2361692
If your part jewish can you tell me how to get a big tiddy ugly faced jewess gf?
Also have a rare Hitler on the house.
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>>2361997
haha what if she was a cheerleader bard too!

haha
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>>2362200
Haha I think it would be funnier if she were an oracle haha
And her curse was unique, she has to drink semen once a day
What a funny concept haha
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>>2362200
>>2362212
dammit guys, had to double check I'm not on /tg/
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>>2360701
Gargantuan Khazar Milkers
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>>2362216
sweet talker

>>2362212
Hmmmm, what should her mythic path be? Angel? "Legend"
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>>2361564
I'll just change her portrait fag

Also, has Owlcat stated if they're going to expand the mythic content or nah? Seems like the later game paths like legend, devil, gold dragon, swarm, etc. are pretty barebones.
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>>2362230
legend
she sucks iomedae's clit afterall
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rtwp or turn based?
ive read that the game was built around rtwp but i know that the pathfinder system is made for turn based
ive heard that turn based makes the game take forever though, is this true?
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>>2362319
rtwp is faster and less thought's required so i use it on trash mobs and whatnot

turnbased for shit like boss fights
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>>2362263
that's actually a pretty nice edit

did you do it yourself?
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yes
you're totally not aroused right now
i'll totally not find you masturbating next to some dead guy you didn't brutally murder
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>>2362344
Fool, Camellia doesn't marinate it. She has you around to for a good pound.
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>>2360701
Don't care about Pathfinder, but is she and her milkers a romance option?
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>>2362356
I just realized she comes up with the spirit excuse not just to justify her actions but also to use an excuse for fucking you.
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>>2362366
>Why yes commander, the ancient spirits of Sarkoris absolutely demand that you fuck me on top of this corpse at once
>You wouldn't want to disappoint them, would you?
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>>2362369
no, i wouldn't

I knew the spirit thing was bullshit to some degree, but I didn't expect her to be lying to that extent.
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>>2362356
Wasn't she fucking the corpse before you arrived or was he still alive but dying?
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>straight
>white
>male
>warrior
>farmhand
>angel to legend
>no romance
>no bargaining with demons
Time to stop the Worldwound.
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>>2362390
>no romance
>chad
lol, no
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>>2362390
>farmhand
MY WIFE'S SON
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>>2362392
>>2362394
Simp elsewhere, cucks
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>>2362396
There's simping and there's actually getting pussy
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>>2362390
>warrior
no such thing, you have to specify
>Fighter 20/Slayer 20
there you go
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>>2362401
SIR HAND OVER YOUR FEATS NOW
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>>2362401
>not Rowdy 11/Slayer 9
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>rowdy/slayer trickster with widesweep
everything dies
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>>2362336
Nah, some guy on modnexus uploaded it there but it ended up getting taken down.
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Imagine having to study all classes interactions like a job to make anything remotely good
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>>2362470
It's rather simple really.

>Proficiencies
>Casting
>Feats/Features
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>>2362470
Like just make a traditional rpg party you moron
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>>2362480
>>2362495
I never had trouble with any other crpg in existence, only pathfinder is doing this to me and not even in general since I had no trouble with Kingmaker.
Only WotR is being weird.
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>>2362529
Wotr is a mystic level game. You're going to have to become a god
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>alternate portrait mod
>just some terribly shopped edit
bro
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>>2361564
>he wouldn't fuck that
You're weak
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uwu
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If the others could go mythic like you, what would you choose for them?

>Wenduag
Demon, no question.
>Camellia
I was thinking demon, but a super psycho trickster fits better.
>Regil
Lich. Aeon is too lawful for him.
>Daeran
Azata ayy
>Ember
Golden Dragon. It fits as it is as stupid as she is.
>Woljif
Normal trickster. Not as fucked up as Camellia but not good either.
>Sosiel
Angel
>Seelah
Angel
>Lann
Legend cuck.
>Nenio
Swarm that walks for the SCIENCE
>Greybor
Legend cuck
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>>2362563
god, i fucking love catching daeran with shit like this
>"The tail."
>"Well, um, who doesn't fantasize about the queen?"
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Does Regill benefit from effortless dual wielding? I know gnome hooked hammers say 2 handed even thought they mean dual weapons but i am not entirely sure the feat would apply because it specifies one handed weapons. It`s kind of counter intuitive... Technically it should work as all his feats are oriented to dual wielding but i would like confirmation.
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>>2362569
It's the same thing. Double weapons count as dual weapons.
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>>2362566
I noticed that only the evil characters are interesting and written like actual humans and the good ones are fucking NPC goody 2 shoes parodies
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>>2362576
Yeah, it's depressing. On the other hand, I love Camellia.
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>>2362579
Camellia is too much for me, she's just a retard schizo murderhobo, too much into evil direction.
Daeran is excellent, Regill is cool too.
Gonna get Wenduag next playthrough because Lann despite being a good damage dealer is just non-existent
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>>2362585
i can't help it
her pussy is crazy good and i have a guro fetish

thanks, lann, you're so awesome lann
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>>2362570

That`s what i thought. Thanks.
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>>2362447
Eh, AoE of widesweep is pretty small and you won't be able to profit off it too much. Consider full strength 2-handed fighter with either fauchards for reach and crit chance or scythe for the biggest crit number possible.
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>>2362724
It's still something. Two-handed fighter suffers from being a fighter: basic.
doesn't fit trickster at all
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>>2362724
trickster thot begone
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>>2362727
And for my next trick, I will make you and several of your friends (greater cleaving finish works with vital strike) disappear!
Besides, vital strike memes require a lot of feats and full BAB is probably better. You can also consider an unholy abomination of bloodrager (primalist) 20/sword saint 20 for legend vital strike memes.
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>>2361422
Yes and no.
In order to get the Lich's level 10 spells you have to sacrifice your romance...literally.
I've read that if you have NO romance, you can still do it, but I've never gone that route.
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>>2362746
You can also sacrifice half of your shekels or Radiance or some other big artifact.
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>>2362746
>In order to get the Lich's level 10 spells you have to sacrifice your romance
Technically you don't, level 10 spells are CL28 thing and if you chicken out of sacrifices you stay at 8, so if you're a level 20 full caster you'll still get them.
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>>2362741
you do realize that's not exclusive to fighter, right?
also, bab is irrelevant after a certain point
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>>2362767
Yep, 2HF is a bit straightforward, but do you really need anything except brute force?
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>>2362767
>you do realize that's not exclusive to fighter, right?
This feels a lot like why fighter is so meh. Weapon spec for a few extra damage? Adding your training to make up for your shitty will save and initiative? More CMD for memey abilities you and your enemy will probably never use? Where's the actual benefit to being a pure bruiser?
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>>2362748
>sacrifice half of your shekels
Might as well, by that point in the game I usually have millions just laying around
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>>2362766
Wait, you have to have 28CL?
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>>2362809
yeah, same for Angel level 10 spells
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>>2362809
If you merge spellbooks (full divine caster with angel, full arcane caster with lich), your CL becomes your class level+your mythic level, so up to 30 (29 because mythic 10 is obtained 10 minites before game ends).
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>>2362811
fuck, i'm mystic theurge
are they any good?
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>>2360740
I love getting my hands on her big fat crits
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>>2362818
I've posted a 2k crit a bit earlier. Can be poomped up to 3k if I switch to scythe, but there is no point, since everything dies in 1 hit.
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>>2362585
>>2362746
>Camellia is too much for me, she's just a retard schizo murderhobo, too much into evil direction.
Yes, but she's perfect for the Lich's sacrifice. When she finds out she on Zack's chopping she freaks out. The reaction is priceless if you are RP as playing her the whole time.

Unfortunately I can't find a screen-grab for it and I passed that point in the game a long time ago.
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>>2362836
Does she panic panic, excited panic, or please save me panic?
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>>2362850
Panic panic. "I swear we're just friends please don't sacrifice me" panic.
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>>2362850
Panic panic if I remember correctly, like "NOOOOOOOO I NEVER REALLY LOVED YOUUUUU"
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>>2362852
really?
after all the 'sacrifice' offerings and kinky fucking?
>>2362854
please, no one would lie like that for a dick they didn't love
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>>2362854
You think she'd be into it.
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>>2362836
You are in luck because I am playing invulnerable lich right now.
You spoiled me a bit but whatever, I will make a screengrab when it happens
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>>2362864
If she has a reaction to you refusing to sacrifice her, please post it too.
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>>2362868
Invulnerable barbarian lich*
but yeah sure, I will save before that, whenever that happens.
I just got shit from Areelus lab, am I far from change?
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>>2362850
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>>2362860
Anon she get off murdering other people not getting killed.
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>>2362875
>"This pain...is excruciating!"
riiiiight
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>>2362874
aww, she's scared

It is weird that lichdom requires you to do that. Pretty sure you just put your soul in a jar.
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>>2362875
But she wants to be helpful, would this not be helpful?
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>>2362872
Yes, you are very far. You are in mid-chapter 3 (mythic 3-4), while transformation is mid-chapter 5 (and you will get mythic 9 out of it).
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>>2362883
My headcanon is that Zacharius just try to see just how loyal you are to him.
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>>2362814
Not really.
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>>2362891
Best to kill him after the ritual. No loose ends and all that.
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>>2362864
>As soon as Zacharius releases Camellia from paralysis, she lets out a frightened shriek.{/n}\"Why does he think there is something between us? We are just friends and nothing more! It's a mistake! A misunderstanding! Tell him!\"",
>"{n}Camellia's paralyzed body is still and unmoving as you strike the final blow. The noblewoman watches you in horror until death clouds her gaze... forever.{/n}",

There ya go.
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>>2362892
How so?
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>>2362874
It is a pretty karmic death for her. First you fuck her, then you sacrifice her. It's poetic.
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>>2362900
One's a pit spell, the other is a save or die 10 damage if failed per level spell, and the other is another turn into zombie if deaded spell.

It's a really big let down. Spare Camellia and keep her around to commit sacrifices in your skelly god name in hopes of some divine undead dick
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>>2362864
my bad about the spoiler anon
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>>2362891
Zack really does make you eat shit if you don't pass his test
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Which mythic paths make you remain lawful? I'm playing a monk and now realize how bullshit the alignment system is.
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>>2363014
>Which mythic paths make you remain lawful?
Angel, Aeon, Devil.
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>>2360701
Can I romance arelu if I go Azata
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>>2363014
lich, it has good synergy with monk too.
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>>2363041
Really? Lich of all paths? I kind of want to go legendary to fit the whole unarmed mortal beating demon lords to death thing
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Is Cavalier fun yet?
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>>2363044
look at a sample here dude, not only indestructible bones but the decaying touch as well, everything else is just an icing
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>>2363050
Okay, I'll go with Lich before legend.
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>>2363053
it also makes Seelah chimp out if you hate her
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>>2363057
stop, i'm already sold
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>>2363059
Just to add fuel to this topic: Withering Spell turns Magic Missile into one of the most dangerous spells in the game.

Each Missile will do -1 STR/DEX/CON or -1 INT/WIS/CHA (you selected which). So that -5 from three state per cast. Or -10 is you combine it will a quickened MM. When playing on Hard I was using it to make Balors or Mythic Demons tap out from me juicing their Wisdom score.

Probably won't help much for a Monk, but its a fun-fact to know.
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>>2363116
Damn, I took magic devourer for my first power. Then again, I am running a Thuerge so my spell pen is going to be shit for a while.
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What's the best way to build a two weapon character? I'm thinking of going Slayer Deliverer.
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Going demon, should I make a primalist or a eldritch scion?
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>>2363130
Two handed fighter looks really good for that, if you can pick up Mastery you could make a Combat Maneuver build that doesn't sacrifice its attacks to use them.
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>>2363130

There are really tons of ways to go around that depending on what you want.
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>>2361707
Fire + Fire then spam Blade Whirlwind for massive aoe damage twice vs all surrounding enemies

>>2363046
Yes.
Gendarme with Charge is hilarious and powerful from level 1 because mounted combat is great if not OP even thanks to >pets and 2x Charge damage from level 1, that you get to apply multiple times by Charging out of battle to gain a free surprised/ambush round
https://youtu.be/eIPdTCuCu7M
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>>2363148
Primalist
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>>2363224
Pure? Or would the draconic bloodline for 4 DD be worth?
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>>2363231
Sure, you'd miss out on Tireless Rage but 4 DD is a good power boost
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>>2363130
1. Slayer Spawn Slayer
2. Rogue Knife Master
3. Ranger Demonslayer
4. Shadow Shaman for 10th spells + dual wielding with sneak attack
If you want maximum power then the best is fourth option because Angel Merge, duel wielding, full spellcasting, medium BAB, Sneak Attack progression + Hexes all in the same character as a pure class without ever needing to take a single dip or multiclass.
Or Ranger because >pet and +10 to AB/damage vs all demons and this also applies to pet + free dual wielding feats and can just go STRChad and ignore DEX
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>>2362565
>Greybor
When he tells you to keep the powers in everything except trickster.
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>>2360701
I'm planning on doing a Demon run while dual-wielding scimitars. Specifically wanting to get Faith Bearer, Scimitar of the Wind and/or Dawnflower's kiss for maximum Crits and self-healing.

d20pfsrd says that evil creatures lose one level while wearing Holy items however there's nothing about it in-game. Is it actually a thing or can I safely use holy weapons like Faith Bearer and Dawnflower's Kiss as a Demon?
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>>2363408
Sarenrae will seethe that a demon is using her weapons but nothing should happen in game, no
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what can I dip into with invulnerable barb ?
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>>2363464
Vivisectionist as usual for +4 STR +2 AC Mutagen and 1d6 Sneak Attack.
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>>2363464
Vivi and Demonslayer but honestly reseccing back for the +8 STR, +8 CON from the capstone might be the way to go.
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>>2363493
>but honestly reseccing back for the +8 STR, +8 CON
interesting numbers but not sure what you mean, this is the first time I ever try to multiclass
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>>2363486
yeah I don't think I would ever be able to minmax like this.
My character is an NPC fodder compared to yours
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>>2363526
At level 20 you get Mighty Rage, every time you rage you get
+8 to STR
+8 to CON
+4 to Will Saves
Shit ton of temporary hit points
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>>2363533
Don't worry about the min-max 2k crit 85 touch ac faggots. Unless you are playing on unfair and above you can get away with staying pure no need to dip forty times and abuse archmage armor to have a decent character.
( but it sure is fun to have 60 ac at level 10)
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>>2363533
You don't need to.
That was just for meme purposes of showing Mutagen stacking because of synergy with Azata spell that restores uses of mutagen.
Depending on the difficulty, you'll certainly need some buffs, though.
I would certainly recommend you pick either Ember or Cam as well.
Fortune Hex + Proctive Luck Hex can make a MASSIVE difference by forcing enemies to roll twice against your AC and pick worst result, or even better, letting your roll twice your attacks and pick the best result for even higher chances of hitting the enemy & also higher crit chance.

>>2363557
to be fair the best is achieving absurd stats as a pure class because some combos like Angel Oracle are simply broken.
Or in the end you just realize what really matters is party & feat synergy, and pure classes can easily achieve absurd AB etc by just stacking some abilities like Domain Powers, Mark of Justice and so on, even with no stats lower than 10 at char creation.
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>>2363549
>At level 20 you get Mighty Rage,
is that on my class or?
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>>2363563
Yes
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>>2363562
Angel Oracle is the most fun you can have in this game I swear, it's just so comfy solo hordes of demons with radiance and then explode any demon you can't cut down with holy magic. (looking at you baphomet)
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So I waited a few months are there already better 3d models for the suc suc?
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>>2363571
lol at thinking they've done anything in the last few months. early access is over, this broken piece of shit is all we get until they start selling dlc
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>>2363576
Well okay I guess I have other shit to play. I cant stand this setting anyway.
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I bet Woljif thinks he is so cool for just leaning by the door like this. What a damn fag.

Anyway, do I need to be evil to play as a Bone Chad or pick the Demon path? Or can I be a CN fight fire with fire kinda thing?

>>2360999
>what is your build?
Smilodon Beast Rider. Was kind of regretting picking it but the large size boost + mythical beast feat seems to have made everything come online.
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>>2360701
Is there any decent robe for me to dip a monk with for a melee build or are literally all robes just trash in this game?

Also wondering if Demon spells can be used if you already cast Rage or Transformation on yourself. Want to play as a Sorc who just self-buffs himself endlessly with Enduring Spells and then basically turns into a fighter at the end with Transformation however Demon spells are just too good to sacrifice for just Transformation.
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What are your favorites dips?
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>>2363598
Loremaster, grab any feat in the game including Clown crit feats.
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>>2363598
20 levels of fighter
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>>2363598
Rowdy 1 for an insane Vital Strike
Instinctual Warrior 2 is pretty powerful, uncanny dodge and a rage without drawbacks.
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>>2363589
You can go CN with Demon but it's more shit on everything vs taking control of Evil.inc type deal. The only option with Lich is going full-based neutral evil.
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Will they add anything to romances in DLC?

Also...did they add Yaker as NPC?
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>>2363662
Yaker should have been a companion and Prelate Hulrun should be your 2nd in commander rather than the dyke orc
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>>2363679
>Yaker should have been a companion
And romance option. For both genders
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>>2363679
>Yaker should have been a companion
We already have Regil, second hellknight in a party would be redundant. You can argue that Regil shouldn't really go on funny adventure with you instead of staying in the castle and commanding the troops, but without him game would be understaffed in based department.
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>>2363679
>>2363687
>>2363735
Yaker is best as Regill's sidekick. He does his job but never gets his respect. It's precious.
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would you also use the 'stress' of such a ridiculous act as an excuse to have sex with your 20+ CHA commander?
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>>2363967
I swear, that'll never not be hilarious to me.
>"I'm innocent, I swear!"
>"Also, please fuck me."
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Gonna go Azata > Devil for Zippy Magic and Favorable Magic

How should I level my character for maximum hellfire ray efficiency?
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Do the googles that boosts fire damage work for a kineticist?
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Anyone come up with a way to beat him legit yet?
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Ah, I can stand side by side with Camellia.
>>2364041
read the description
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>>2363646
Can you cast spells during focused rage? Because a 2 level dip for a magus wouldn't work if focused rage blocks spellcasting
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>>2364049
You forgot to add mage armor.
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best build for tank seelah?
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>>2364088
removed from the party, she never gets hit in my game dude.
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>>2364088

I went with half tower shield specialist half paladin. The benefits of going tower shield specialist are many. You get tons of extra feats because fighter, you don`t have to waste a feat just to be able to use a tower shield and most importantly you don`t get the penalties to movement for using one. The paladin levels give you smite (and that one skill that allows you to use 2 smites so that your party get the benefits) and a mount. I used some feats to be able to add the bonuses of defense to the mount`s AC. For equipment i went with anything that healed. Armor gives fast healing, helm gives extra hit points, shield recover HP when suffering a critical hit. I stay on defense fighting permanently and have a ring that pushes the enemy and makes it prone too so as to avoid enemies performing full attacks (works even with Mephistopheles and Deskari). The sword improves attack rolls when defending or having a shield too. The tradeoff is damage. She is not a heavy hitter, she is there to take the punches and push enemies. I guess that depending on the equipment one could make it so that she could launch more attacks of opportunity or something but i`m pretty satisfied with the build.
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yeah, nenio, why are you showing her that?
HmHMm
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is azata as much of a tree hugger path as I'm thinking?
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>>2364241
yes
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>>2364241
Yes, but you're a badass tree hugger
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>>2364241
more so
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>>2364241
the silver lining is that if you decide to go devil, you get to burn those trees down yourself
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>>2364233
I love how every evil character knows Camellia's game
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>>2360701

Mommy fetish is cringe.
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>>2364337
YOU'RE cringe
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>>2364264
What happens to the dragon when you go devil from azata?
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>>2364384
she leaves

she was getting her power from the whole azata thing, so without it she's gotta go
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>>2364384
she gets deported back to elysium
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How do I get Zach to not be an asshole at the end of my lich transformation?
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>>2364504
holy shit, what a fucking missed opportunity
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>>2363569
Angel Druid btfos Angel Oracle.
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>>2364537
how
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>>2364537
>Angel Druid
Kill the hippy faggot with fire
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>>2362883
>It is weird that lichdom requires you to do that.
You dont really have to. I did not have any LI in my playthrough, told him, he goes "well, good for you" and then it was just money question.
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Gonna go Azata Sorcerer, how should I level?

Also, what bloodlines do I pick if I go crossblooded?
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>>2364548
I picked Nature, since it plays together thematically. Also hard hitting single target spells for that zippy magic memery.
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>>2364548
Arcane is the bes
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>>2364545
Really? Did he hand you your phylactery without being a douchenozzle?
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>>2364590
Yes. I did everything like I should I guess. He then even gives you a belt, compliments you and leaves.
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>>2364595
Alright then, Camellia gets to live to break my nonexistant heart.
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When do you get devil? I want to keep Camellia but I heard she leaves if you keep with Aeon until the final act.
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>>2364623
Azata also gets the option to turn into a Devil.
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>>2364679
Playing monk, so I have to be lawful.
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Any news on the next big patch? Still waiting for them to fix casters to play Lich and Azata.
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>>2364686
>fix casters
Huh?
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>>2364689
Zippy magic doesn't work as intended with casters.
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>>2364698
And Lich?
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>>2364702
Not sure about the current state of Lich, it mostly works i think but there's still a mod out that fixes some Lich spells.
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>>2364704
Eyes of the Bodack doesn't effect your party anymore, if that's what you're talking about.
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How's the state of the game, anons? What's the DLC status?
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Fewer talents I can understand, but no study and less sneak attacks?

I guess the free evasion from Rogue/Monk stances, uncanny dodge from Rogue/Barbarian ones, extra BaB and two armor training from fighter, and the maximum of 6 extra sneak attack die...

through writing this post I realize this might actually be viable though the monk stance seems to be complete shit in comparison to the other ones
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>>2364734
>geniuses with the ability to memorise and copy fighting styles
Kid Goku?
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>>2364738
He can't cast lightning bolt, unfortunately.
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>>2362191
i want her to laugh at my tiny white dick while she is getting her holocaust pussy impregnated by big black cock
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>>2364734
So you get a maximum of 10 extra uses, all of which last a minute? No thank you.
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>>2364742
>this is what /pol/ does to your brain
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>>2364734
I think monk stance is one of the few ways to get your int modifier to your AC, unlike Duellist and sword Saint though it's not capped to class level beyond the buff limit.
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>>2364743
It's still a class with full BaB, talents, and some sneak attack. Not necessarily as reliable as a basic Slayer but more useful in bossfights or tougher enemies for a short while. Swap into fighter for more tanking and damage, go rogue to to 9d6 (10d6 if you got accomplished sneak attacker) a bitch, or barb for some DR.
>>2364746
Unfortunately, it adds half your INT modifier rather than full.
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>>2364742
Why do I just want to punch her in the gut?
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>>2364728
broken, and a mystery
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>>2364753
Still a better 1 level dip than Sword Saint or Duellist, where its capped to the level
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>>2364758
because your a misogynist
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>>2364734
>>2364753
I just did math to see how viable a multiclass with rowdy would be
>Imitator 15 Rogue Stance gives 5 extra sneak attack dice
>Imitator's last sneak attack dice is at 15, for a maximum of 3
>5 Rowdy gives you another three

11 baby. Over full rogue and with better BaB. Even better than a Rowdy 11 to Slayer. You won't have improved quarry or full fighter psuedo-training but you'd still be a more functional death machine.
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>>2364795
yeah, i think it works
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man this game is struggling on my 1660S when shit starts going down
is this normal for this game or should I start getting worried?
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>>2364864
it happens
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>>2364864
>unity
always like this
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>>2364795
You can get 8 as a regular slayer without sacrificing talents and studied target.
Imitator is just shit..
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>>2364864
Particle effects, turn em down son.
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>>2364864
I can run CP2077 at 4k/60 but this game makes my system crawl unless I drop setting to low/mid
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>when you forgo minmaxing and encounter late game enemies
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Wizard (elemental specialist: fire) 19 + Sorcerer (triple fire dragon crossblooded) 1. Is there a more broken option for meme damage output? Legend for arcane trickster and shit maybe.
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>>2365069
Should've posted the best part of this fight.
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>>2365079
Legend opens up a lot. You can go full Mystic Theurge and half in both your casting classes to be capable of lvl 9 spells from both.
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>>2362565
>Regill
> Not Devil

Also Nenio could also be lich
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>>2365164
Here's the thing, even when he technically becomes a devil god, he fucking hates hell.
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>>2365164
Nenio would go for lich but then go for swarm before the transofrmation was complete.
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>>2365173
No, he doesn't. His Ascension ending is him working in Hell to create literally final solution to demon question.
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>>2365244
That doesn't mean he likes it.
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>>2365255
Nothing there to imply he doesn't like it there.
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>>2365258
This is Regill we're talking about: if it's not killing demons or devils of all varietes and bullying Yaker, he hates it
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>>2365259
>killing devils
Anon, stop talking about things you have no idea about.
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>Seelah just walked into the fight out of fucking nowhere
What?
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>>2365289
she does that
weird ass bug
watcha buildin?
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Still no DLC...
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>>2365255

Regill doesn`t "like" things. He finds things more or less agreeable depending on their usefulness.
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>>2365255
He doesn't like anything.
He simply views the devils as lacking in efficiency - and it is easy to understand why considering they aren't just lawful, they're also biased towards evil.
Regill on the other hand isn't biased towards evil, his methods just mark him as evil because his love for the law is too extreme.
Regill would unironically be much better suited for one of the LN true LAW AUTISMO planes like Axis where everything is about L A W and there no bias for or against good/evil, so your entire existence can truly just be about order, simple as.
As a matter of fact, Aeon probably fits Regill way more than Devil for that reason.
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aeonchads, what are your builds looking like?
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>>2362263
That armor is hilariously retarded
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>>2365508
you’re hilariously retarded
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>>2365508
>Retarded
Exactly, it fits perfectly with Wendy
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Can anyone grab the dialogue if you romance Cammy as a lich and then sacrifice her? I saw Aru had some, so I'm curious what hers is and I'm too lazy and smooth-brained to figure out how to toybox it together.
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>>2365670
read the thread nigger
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>>2365508
it makes sense when you realize it's edited from a warhammer demon

no clue if it's 40k or fantasy tho
>>2365670
see >>2362874
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It's a shame Wendaugs build is too weak to bring in my party because I like the character
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>>2365501
I wish I took Aeon instead of Lich but I am too far in now
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>>2365501

Pretty well actually. Aeon Inquisitor w/ destructive dispel is da shit.
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>>2365712
>Wendaugs build is too weak
She is a fighter that you get at level 1. How the fuck is that weak?
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>>2362874

This shit real? Doing this would be the one reason to allow her to "live". Alternatively can you like... eat her if you become swarm?
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>>2365712

If she is weak you did something wrong matte. My Wenduag is one of my stronger party members and my build is not even that good because i decided to experiment with snap shots and animal companions instead of going with sneak attacks.
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DEEEEMONS, PRELATE
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>>2365712
Just go the Dual Axes route, anon.
Wenduag is one of the most solid characters, and Fighter is actually one of the most solid classes as well, even just default Fighter.
https://youtu.be/6jKKeWQEDFc
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>>2365970
ooh what kind of inquisitor? and more importantly which deity?

i was thinking about trying inquisitor but i wasn't sure when it'd actually start coming online
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>>2365970
Inquisitor was shite in Kingmaker, do Mythic levels make them any good in this game?
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>>2366250
Infinite Judgments is a pretty good buff.
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>>2366220
>>2366250

Personally i went with LE inquisitor of Urgathoa, a judge. Some say to go with tactician because of the synergy with the summons but i didn`t want to give up the judgments, i use them a lot and they only get better as you level up. By level 15 or so you can have like 3 judgements active at all times and with everlasting judgment that`s for every single fight. So you are constantly rising attack rolls, dmg rolls and bypassing DR. Mythic path also gives you gazes that stack on attack, bypassing DR, enhancing summons or even making enemies take damage when they hit you (great for enemies with ridiculously high AC). Later on you can have 3 judgments and 3 gazes all active at the same time and casting all that is not even a whole turn so you can still attack, cast a spell or a dispel (which not only takes away buffs but also stuns) AND you still have the banes which increase attack and dispel (and thus stun the target) specially at high levels when it automatically dispels an effect. Also these auras are not spells so you can still fully use them even if transformation is activated. And did i mention Aeon is immune to tons of shit? No i did not, Aeon is immune to tons of shit, from mind affecting stuff till negative levels or ability damage. AND it also has this skill that undo mythic demons (It won`t work on demon lords like Deskari of Baphomet but still great). Also, and this is not a minor thing the Aeon is pretty much immune to anyone trying to penetrate it`s mind. No will checks, no nothing, demons like Chivaro or Shamira just miserably fail as if they had hit a wall. Oh, and BTW, it also plays great with impossible domains and domain zealot. Pick those right and you are looking at some pretty good swift actions.
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>>2366347

Incidentally i went LE because i wanted Devil to be a possibility, Damphir because of the bonuses to STR and WIS, acolyte background to use WIS for persuasion (and intimidation) and Urgathoa because a) i wanted the scythe b) it made sense for an undead Damphir and c) the devil thing (plus i considered going Lich). Melies disappointed me though...
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>>2360740
>>2360776
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I've been playing this game a bit, was actually surprised to find a game that plays using D&D mechanics. But I find the fucking army management stuff a retard grade chore, the battles aren't interesting at all. One of the initial battles I had when you first get the army before you take Drezen had something like 300 turns as I whacked something with a lot of HP with a unit that didn't do much damage, Shield Bearers(?) Is it a big deal to just Save Game Editor the armies to have units with 10k-50k units and just steam roll the demon armies? In my mind the game is about fucking around with your party, not play a bad RTS+Chess game.

Will I suffer some storyline fuckups by just wiping the map of all hostiles using broken strong armies? I'm about 3/4th the way through and I don't immediately notice anything wrong thus far.
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god, i love monk
>AC bonuses
>Support powers to further AC bonuses
>Style Strikes to dab all over enemies
>Crane Style
>Dragon Style to combo with Power Attack
>Only class that can properly style on demons with their bare fists
>Can go legend to further everything
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>>2366872
It should be fine but I think you can just turn it off instead.
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>>2366872
nope

i think the only way it'd have an issue was if you used something like toybox to actually delete them off the map because then you don't get the rewards, but actually just giving archers a few extra digits worth of units so they can 1 shot everything on their first turn is perfectly fine for this retarded mechanic
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right
i believe you
totally

Before that, why is there a sun and blackhole floating over my shoulders?
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>>2367008
>why are there two balls right next to my face?
To get you used to having suck Monad's two massive balls all day every day.
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What curse should I take for Oracle?
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>>2367008
never heard of Ioun Stones?
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>>2367024
yes
to my knowledge, to magical immaterial things around my head are not necessarily stones
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jesus fucking christ, you scared the shit out of me
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>>2367171

Who ever thought 3 pair of wings were necessary or even looked cool... For lawful beings devils seem unconcerned by the crime this design is against style (and probably aerodynamics, i mean considering the bone structure and the positioning that thing could not fly or if it does only one pair of wings would be actually functional)
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>>2367397
Who ever thought just one wing was cool? They're just subverting Sephiroth with that design.
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>>2367397
>>2367403

Fuck everything, he should be only wings.
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>>2367420
Biblical angels are great and all but how are you supposed to have sex with it?
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>>2367018
Wolf Scarred has no downside and gives you an attack attack/round as a Bite, so you start the game with 2 attacks.
Daeran's curse, Powerless Prophecy, can have its downside negated by casting Freedom of Movement or using the boots.
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Does True Seeing have essentially the same effect as Greater Blind Fight feat? What am I missing? Why would anyone pick Blind Fight feats when you can simply pick one spell (Communal True Seeing) in your party instead?
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>>2367455
True Seeing only bypasses Illusion effects
Some late game enemies, especially the bosses, have effects that give 50% concealment but aren't treated as Illusion, so True Seeing won't do anything Echolocation will though
In the end, True Seeing Communal does trivialize Blind Fight in a way because 95% of monster conceal/mirror image etc are illusion.
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>>2367437

A most intriguing question boy. I propose an experiment should be made (for the encyclopedia). First the Angel should put on some pants in order for it to drop them! The sex part should happen naturally after that.
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>>2367461
Is Echolocation fool-proof then? If that's the case, I'll never pick Blind Fight feats again but have True Seeing as a standard party buff and maybe have one DPS with Echo who slays bosses.
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>>2367469
Also, does any boss even have full invisibility? Or is everything about 50% concealment at worst.
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>>2367469
Yes echolocation (blindsense) is stronger than true seeing. Dragon disciple, kineticist (earth) and barbarian (scent) get passive feats for it.
>>2367471
Max 50%
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>>2367469
Echolocation is fool proof, but it's a self buff - only Alchemists & Brown Furs can cast it on others.
However, if the Scent buff works correctly, then Skaldchads win once again since they can give it alongside a plethora of other useful bonuses to the whole party 24/7.
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>>2367171
Speaking of which is devil path worth it when you have demon? What are some good class combos?
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>>2367485
>hurr why devil when u have demon
I want lorelets to go.
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>>2362874
>What good is power if it does not give you pleasure?
Camellia unironically has a point here if you follow Urgathoa
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>>2367489
>demon
>chapter 3 onward
>demon themed setting
>clearly defined mythic tree
>devil
>confined late game
>what does it even do
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>>2366800
rude...
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What is the best way to achieve fear immunity for the whole party without just stacking up wisdom and anti-fear bonuses?
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>>2367491
Yeah, the thing is Lich's aren't completely deprived of things like passion cause Zach sure as hell can get pissed. I think the writers confused one setting's idea of lichdom for another. The skelly condition isn't even a factor if you become a god because your unstatable power would allow you to just regenerate your flesh if you felt like it.

I'm disappointed at the lack of post-transformation romantic dialogue hinting you can still bone your lovers, just a little big more literally.
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>>2367514
You don't even become a true proper lich.

The key idea behind the plot for the lich path is that the characters soul is too powerful for Zach to do his meme magic ritual and turn you into one. You have to find a Midnight Bolt for him, which he literally uses to damage and ruin your soul, turning you into a passionless husk, because he's too incompetent to find some other solution (and is basically suckering you because he just wants to get free as soon as possible.)
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>>2367516
what?
that bonefaced motherfucker
i'm going to eat his soul afterward
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>>2367491

Philosophically? yes; as an argument for sparing her life? Not so much. After all killing people close to her is her thing, she just thought she was the hunter instead of the prey and is ranting about it.

>>2367500

Paladins are immune and have an anti-fear aura, Aeons are immune to all mind affecting conditions and can also share that immunity. Then there is equipment for early game. By mid game you`ll find far better cloaks and rings than those that give resistances and many characters can build immunity to fear (though if you ask me charm is far more dangerous). Finally once you have greater enduring spells buffing your characters becomes less of a chore as the buffs and protections can last even for 24 hours.
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Do the companions get better? So far I have a spider, a nigger, and a retarded elf girl with me.
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>>2367540
Is anyone really close to her? I mean, you're the only one aside from her father who knows her secret. Everyone else is an acquaintance at best.
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>>2367555
two of those are some of the best companions in the game
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>>2367555
Yes, once you'll get Regill.
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>>2367555
You'll get a based manlet later on, but the rest aren't much better.
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>Daeran fills the council room with roses as a romantic gesture
He's dedicated, I'll give him that. Also, it looks more aesthetic.
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>>2367555

Spider is good, probably the best companion in the game for me (Best romance for sure). Then manlet is cool, dwarf daddy is cool, cynic aristocrat is also cool and the other retard elf girl is alright (yes, you get 2). On the other hand if you don`t like any of those Lich can have it`s own gang and Swarm is his own gang. Alternatively you could hire mercenaries and avoid the companions entirely though i don`t really know how that affects your kingdom management options.
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>>2367558

>Is anyone really close to her?

That`s only because she keeps killing them though...
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>>2367586
Her father mentioned exchanging servants every month and keeping her on a tight leash. As someone mentioned earlier in this thread or a different one, the reason why she calls you friend so much is because she's never had one.
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>>2367568
he just drew a bath for me, refused to join, and then gave me an engraved pendant
fucking party boy
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>>2367590

Psychopaths don`t have friends. They can`t because they are unable to feel empathy and generate that kind of emotional bonds. What they can do, what she does, is imitate what she believes/ understands those bonds mean/ represent but the real emotional connection doesn`t exist. For her that moment of betrayal and murder is the moment she is the most honest about herself with another person and the most intimate their relation can get (which is why it`s so closely related to sex and completely free of remorse even when the victim is family).
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>>2367632
>Psychopaths don`t have friends
They don't actually exist. It's not a recognized mental condition in anything outside of fiction. At best, these types of people have narcissist and anti-social personality disorder.
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>>2367555
You get the manlet king later. Just don't go trickster or demon or he seethes.
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>>2365289
I started a new playthrough recently and she keeps showing up out of nowhere. Not in my party, cant interact with her. She's just THERE.
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>>2367632
That reminds me, did Camellia kill her mother
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>>2367655
Yes.
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>>2367652

She likes to watch... sue her.
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>>2367655
>>2367658
to be fair, she tried to kill her first
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>>2367655
Horgus did, actually. It's all revealed in her act 5 quest.
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>Camellia leaves because being invincible bores her
>Is lvl 20 at the end of the game
>Even before that is far more powerful than her likely victims would ever be
feels very last minute
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speaking of the crazy bitch, is her final personal quest before or after your lich transformation?
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>>2367687
I think you can just not go in the ziggurat and postpone the ritual indefinitely. I wonder if she has different dialogue if you sacrifice her after having completed her quests and achieved true love. Knowing owlshits probably not.
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>>2367693
>kill her father and her servants in a hedonistic blood orgy
>still just a friend
baka
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>>2367568
>>2367623
Daeran's relationship path has some pretty cute moments.
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>>2367706
catty fucking fag
stop making me gay
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Did anon really?
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>>2361585
Not really. No more so than any prep caster already was OP. Archivist casting is a literal down grade from cleric casting because clerics have access to every spell that gets on the cleric list at basically anytime vs needing to learn things.
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>>2364864
its normal for all unity games
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>>2365255
Being Hellknight is slurping Asmodeus' nutsack while swearing you merely find Hell inspiration in between breaths and picking pubes from your mouth when you come up for air.
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>>2364048
Heal Spam. Lots of Heal Spam.

Especially with Zippy magic, between Me, Ember, Daeran, and Aivu we had 5 Heal casts doing 40-90 damage each.

Still rough as hell.
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Devil should've been added far earlier. Fuck, it would've been perfect in place of demon. It's unlock could've been something like this:

>The forces of the Abyss look upon you, the people of Mendev, and one another as prey. This war continues its endless bloodshed due to their chaotic weakness. A simple conflict that could've been resolved in the first two decades has stretched to a century's time. Now you are roped into this whether you like it or not. You feel

>Heartbroken (Angel)
>Bored (Trickster)
>Angry (Demon)
>Resolved (Aeon)
>Annoyed beyond all belief at the sheer incompetence of both these pathetic mongrel forces of cowards, zealots, thieves, torturers, and murderers. It must be rectified by your hands. All of them must be brought to heel. This pathetic farce of a war must end in blood and fire and agony. (Devil)
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>>2367555
Yes, after you get the purple hair gnome chad
The entire Chapter 1 companions are basically a circus freakshow to the point the black female paladin stands out the least of them all
I guess they went the MOTB circus party route after people complained about how bland Kingmaker companions were
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>>2367764
On the other hand, an arcanidt can get certain advantages. As far as I know it was possible for them to learn any divine spell including domain spells and spells from other classes. That and Int based spellcasting made it really popular for Mystic theurge fuckery or just taking all levels into it.
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>>2367763
what the hell
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>>2367763
Holy based, Kobold race when?
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How do I drive the demons out of Camellia?
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>>2367862
Fuck them out of her
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luv’ rovagug
‘ate everything else
simple as
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>>2367851
Meant to say archivist, autocorrect ruined it
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>>2367831

Yes that would work yes... except for the tiny little detail that Melies, and by extension the rest of the devils, turn out to be a bunch of pushovers. For Devil to work the Commander should be able to transform into a Devil so chad that it should only be second to Asmodeus himself.

>>2367836

Kingmaker had some good ones though. I personally liked Jaethal and Amiri. Octavia and Valerie were kind of alright too. The rest sadly failed to impress me in any meaningful way. Honestly i would love it if they could just give us the classic line up every once in a while.
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o.O
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>>2367878
you basically become the chaddest demon if you go that route so why not?
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>>2367862
Hahahaha!
oh wait, you're serious
Let me laugh even harder!
HAHAHAHAHAHA!
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>>2367862

You need to romance her as a Lich. Her salvation is at the end of that path.
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>>2367882
oh yes
you now realize seelah wasn't wrong when it sounded like wenduag was flirting with her rather than threatening
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>>2367896
>end of that path
like poetry
except you should've had the option of confining her soul to her amulet and keeping it with you
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>>2367882

What`s better than one chocolate bar?
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>>2367882
But men are literally irreplacable because women can't procreate without them?
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>>2367908
she's talking about sex, not procreation
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>>2367908
No need to get defensive, chud
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>>2367888

The strongest ant is still an ant.
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>>2367916
Wasn't Baphomet Mephi's bitch for a couple of centuries or something?
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>>2367924

My understanding is that no, that it was Asmodeus who created both the labyrinth that imprisoned Baphomet and Mephistopheles, the first devil. You would then be correct to assume that in theory Mephistopheles is really strong but either rumors of his strength were exaggerated or Owlcat did a really lousy job on the implementation. Suffice to say that if i ever considered going devil i am not anymore.
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>>2367998
Mephistopheles was created by Asmodeus but he never imprisoned him.
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>>2367908
they have magic
ain't gotta explain shit
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>>2368005

Syntax error. I meant he created both the Labyrinth (which was used to imprison Baphomet) and Mephistopheles. (Not that Mephistopheles was ever imprisoned)
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>>2367555
Daeran and Regill seem like the best companions to me for now, didn't take the spider though
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how do I change my portrait to fit my chosen mythic path? I picked demon and I want my portrait to look like one
does it happen as you level up your mythic rank or do I need to mod it in?
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>>2368165
In game, you get to change it once you go through the transformation, but if you want to change it early you can either respec/use a respec mod, or (I think) go into the files and change what your character's using there
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>>2368165

It happens at Mythic level 8 or 9 and it`s worth the wait.
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I never bother with Wenduag because she's such a schizo. Her romance development is completely separate form her personal quest.
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so they finally copies divinity's turn based system, might actually be able to play this
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>>2368219

No she isn`t and no it isn`t. If anything her romance is more than just her quest, which is awesome and actually a good thing if you ask me. Not every event should be marked with a quest/ to do mark. Sure, it can be tricky and maybe even frustrating to suddenly get locked out and not understand why but the "secret" events are not even that secret to be honest. All you have to do is check on her periodically and, you know, understand what kind of character she actually is (as opposed to just want to shag her because of her sexy voice and provocative innuendos). She may not seem it at first glance but she ends up as a complex and interesting character.
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>>2368230

Not exactly but i do agree that the turn based system is the superior experience.
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>>2367908
She's referring to sex and in a world where immortality/afterlife/alter-self/polymorph exist they literally are not.
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Why come everybody hates ember
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>>2368277
At least she isn't being used as the cover girl, but then make the player unable to impregnate her.

Ember was off limits from the start, but the Mom on the cover is being used to tease the player without delivering.
Mom DLC when?
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>>2368277

Who hates Ember?
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>>2368255
I LOVE WENDUAG
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>>2368219
Wenduag is too good of an archer to pass up and Lann's monk shit can't compete with fighter feats. She does her god damn job and that's all I really ask of anyone.
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>>2368327
Me
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>"Let's turn all our officers into Jews!"
What could possibly go wrong? Or does forcing them to become part time wagies when they are not getting killed by demons makes me the Jew?
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>>2368502
There is nothing wrong with having units generating gold.
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>>2368502
Isn't this just how life works in america?
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>>2368374

Yes.
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>>2368277
She's a mary sue
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>>2368502
On the one hand, it's good for your soldiers to have trade skills so they can be put to work when they retire from active service. On the other, if they survive your eternal war machine then they clearly weren't fighting hard enough and you don't want to reward that behaviour.
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>>2368557
Nah, the military is a giant public works project and enlisted men don't generate any money at all.
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>playing 126 hours already
>game doesn't feel like it's gonna end any time soon
holy shit how long is this game
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>>2368811

> the absence of an answer is an answer too
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>>2365408
been a while since the last patch too
ain't feeling so good bros...
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>>2368750
>>mary sue
>constantly mocked by your companions
>can only shine if you give her your support
I think you need to look up the definition of marey sue.
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>>2367831
I 100% agree, leading the crusade as a Mythic Demon makes absolutely no fucking sense before you get thrown into the Abyss while being a Devil considering Cheliax and the Hellknights are major official sponsors of the Mendevian crusades so the average Iomedaen crusader would still trust you enough fight the Demonic hordes for you even if you're busy selling your soul to Asmodeus.

And with that Act 4 could also have been very interesting as different situations and individual Demons will tempt you into tard-raging, cooming, power-grabbing and/or rebelling in specific ways against your current mythic until after a certain threshold where your actions have strayed you more into being a Demon than whatever you Mythic were previously with that Mythic and manner of your corruption determining the sort of Demonic powers and features you get.

Honestly this wasted opportunity is probably the worst part of the game for me.
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>>2360701
>Could choose "any" Path dialogue.
>Unbound by Alignment.
>True to your own personality like legend.
>Infinite DCs, unmatched damage potential.
Why would you ever choose a path when "colorless" mythic power was this good?
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>>2369017
>he posted it here too
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>>2362092
Daeran and Arue are quite the pair.
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>>2369034
Not my fault Pathfinder discussion is split across multiple threads; and all are dying in their own ways.
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>>2361654
Wrath wins for Gnome, Halfling, and Half Orc
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>>2369048
Which Kingmaker companions would be useful in WoTR if they were directly ported in?
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>>2369017
There is actually a lore reason for that
Which is explained in the upcoming DLC there is actually a being that has been draining you of divine power since you first gained that big dick mythic boost in the first mythic event
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>>2369050
Jubiloist, Nok Nok, G.O.A.T., Enki, and Tristan.
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>>2369050
If you mean gameplay wise:
Ekundayo because Ranger, pet, bowman, good stats
Harrim & Tristian because Impossible Domain
Linzi because Bard, although Skalds mog them hard now
Jaethal because Impossible Domain + Everlasting Jugment
Regongar because Elemental Barrage + Dimension Strike
Nok-Nok because Knife Master still great and Kukris can easily proc Elemental Barrage as soon as Chapter 3 now
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>>2368400
The trouble with Lann is the best monk abilities being front-line oriented. He would've definitely been a lot more standout if he was just a plain monk.
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What diety selection gets the most reactivity?

Do any other mythic paths get a specialised building or area like the lich does?

Thanks.
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>>2369226
I heard Abadar gets some responses, and of course Iomedae/Desna gets stuff depending on Mythic Paths

Azata gets their own area, and I think Demons get something once they reach Chapter 4.
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How's the game nowadays? Chapter 6 still short as fuck?
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i just fucked daeran on a rooftop
that was weirdly romantic
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>>2369334
He has the most romantic romance after all.
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Got a quick question lads. To save the Nexus camp do I need the succ squad or I am good so long I don't bring the walking bombs?
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>>2369334
I've been thinking of writing a one-shot fic of Camellia, Nenio, Wenduag, and Ember all catching sight of it happening and then observing.
yes, i write fanfic, sue me, i get fucking bored okay
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>forced to do things that go against my rp because otherwise I would miss out on content
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she's so selfless, isn't she?
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>>2369393
I like to think of it as more my character getting corrupted or sacrificing parts of himself to further his goal. For example, my Lawful Evil Monk going Aeon, being appalled by the time janny idea of justice, and lured into temptation by Camellia offering relief away from the dogma that has ruled his life and is threatening to become part of his very existence over his personality.
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>>2368861
Mary Sue means writer's pet which is 100% what ember is.
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How do I return to the abyss as a demon after act 4?
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>>2369394
she's so 1 dimensional
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fucking hell
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gonna do a legend playthrough

what mythic should i do going into it?
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>>2369502
Whichever one. You can go Aeon, realize you're a time cuck, and opt to go back to being a super chad. You can go demon, realize raging all the time is kind of gay, and become a super chad. You can go Angel and go legend like the Iomecuck you are.
it just works
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>>2369495
she's a simple girl with simple tastes
she likes it rare and raw
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Hulrun or ramen?
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>>2369511
Hulrun is more useful later on. Ramen is someone who doesn't burn children at the stake off the slightest suspicion and say their survival justifies the burning.
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What's the biggest possible damage output (done) in WotR? I made a 600 crit yesterday and started wondering if it'd be possible to get above 1000 somehow.
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>>2369531
>if it'd be possible to get above 1000 somehow.
It is.
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>>2369513
She didnt seem to mind being burned.
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>>2369535
How?
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>>2369531
I've seen pics of 5k+ gendarme charges and vital strikes, both done with trickster crit memes iirc
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>>2369544
My 600 was by Gendarme using Vital Strike as well, although without charge bonuses. The class is really powerful especially when you have mount dealing damage with you on top of it.
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Speaking of Tricksters, what deity is fitting for CN/CE and gets some fun reactivity that isn't Calistria and the drunk guy?
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>>2369555
Gyronna
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>tfw you finally discover the power of metamagics midway through the game
if i just had selective, i could've dabbed over everything with grease and stinking cloud
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>>2369572
Casting time is increased for spontaneous casters, not sure about prepared. If you become a lich, you can absorb magic and get your next spell quickened to circumvent that issue. Also, your allies' buffs can trigger it.

It's pretty fucking broken.
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>>2360740
Man, Killing Floor's gotten really weird.
What's next, female Fleshpounds?
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Is it really worth taking the spell penetration feats if you mostly rely on the ones that ignore them entirely?
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>>2369602
You'll want them for other spells, trust me. You'll be relying on your mythic spells but utility is always useful.
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This game might have the most dogshit inventory UI in existence.
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>>2369364

If you ask for the lady in shadow`s help she will send guards. Them and the Aesimars (if you took them) will both die but your party will survive in full and you`ll lose nothing. Maybe if you free more slaves it is different, who knows...
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Base Oracle, Seeker or Purifier?
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>>2369652
Base
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>>2369502
Either Trickster for the speshul feats, or angel/lich for the extra spells.
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About to do Blackwater. Wish me luck. Heard it's hard.
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>>2369661
Its not hard, its retarded and annoying.
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>>2369630
Yeah, there's much to be desired.
seriously, it doesn't even give you a fucking sort button to make everything tidy
>>2369652
Seeker gives more feats in return for less revelations. It really depends on your mystery.
>>2369658
Fuck me, you get to keep them? Now I'm tempted to forgo lichdom for omnicasterhood.
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>>2369661
This >>2369665
Make sure to finish your enemies with lightning, that's how they permanently die. Their touch AC is abysmal last I checked, so get woljif to molest them for more than just picking their pockets.
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>>2369677
I went with base for Nature/Flame
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>>2369393

I see those things as tests... will you stay true to the path or will you compromise? Admittedly it is more difficult if you are playing evil. Owlcat is biased towards good and will always give better rewards to that alignment. They are so unimaginative some times.
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>>2369473

You can not. Nocticula will destroy all the gates so you can make it only to as far as the fane/ nexus. No merchants, no quests, no nothing
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>>2369680
I refuse to be a goody two shoes faggot. I'll stick to hanging with noble bastards, hellknights, bloodthirsty murderers, and assassins. You can keep your limp dick paladins and faggot bow monks.
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>>2369681
>spoiler
is is really her who destroys it?
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>>2369679
That's good. I go for bones to fit the lich mystic theurge build I have, so I only really need one revelation (Bone Armor).
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>>2369652
>>2369677
Theoretically, your character can pursue actual lichdom on their own afterward rather than Zach's cheap ritual. Would be interesting if Owlcat added in dialogue options with him after you reject his brand of lichdom.
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>with improved initiative and a hare familiar, I have a better initiative modifier than Camellia at Shield Maze despite my 7 dex
lol
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>>2369694
but you won't be able to become a god
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>>2369502

Personally i`d recommend something that makes sense from a roleplaying POV. Like, i can`t see a Lich or a Swarm ever relinquishing power or even a Demon bailing on a chance at divinity. No, rejecting the power needs to make sense for your character, like i can see any Iomedae dog rejecting a profane gift so probably Angel is the best one in that sense but i guess you can justify it any way you like... as in you could go demon and blame everything on your situation, get rid of the power and choose to become a force of good.
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>>2369572

I never know which metamagic to choose because in all honesty they don`t seem that great to me. Like, i can use rods instead of wasting a feat for quicken or empowering.
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>>2369704
I don't think there are rods of quicken in this game. Either that or I've had terrible luck finding any rods at all.

You only really need quicken, persistent, and selective. They're very circumstantial but good when you can find a niche.
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>>2369661

It`s not THAT hard, specially if you`ve done it before and know what to expect. I mean save before entering and after the first fight make the check to open the door out (save before doing that too). Do this as many times as needed until you actually succeed. Also make sure you have someone that can cast lighting spells as well as protection or resist lighting. Enemies will also drop weapons with lighting modifiers, switch your weapons (longswords and longbows specifically). That`s mostly it.
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>>2369715
> that can cast lighting spells
You get a wand of Call Lightning at the entrance of the dungeon.
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>>2369710
>catfolk, not Rakshasa
dropped
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>>2369684

I still resent that once Konomi ask for the Commander to send his army to Nerosyan to placate the unrest you are not given the option of actual ocupation and seizing power because the way i see it that would be the perfect excuse for an evil character to rise to power. You never get "intelligent" (or rather common sense) evil options like that. Evil on owlcat games is mostly "kill that innocent NPC for no reason and no gain". Seriously you are offered to threaten a priest but you can`t inflict ironic punishments or torment on your actual enemies (most times you can`t even outmaneuver them for your own benefit. Seriously, part of the charm of playing evil is to go for that trope were everything was part of your plan). I guess the closer thing would be some of the Devil options but still...
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>>2369735
One could argue your army not being loyal to you but that's only plausible if they're not mostly undead.

At least you become the Godking of Drezen in the secret ending
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>>2369735
Yes, it's a shame because they know how to write pragmatic evil character like Kanerah or Regill but as soon as it concerns the PC being evil you mostly end up with "I don't like you, die" option.
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>>2369572
Anon, you can already dab on everything with these by
Grease: Freedom of Movement
Stinking Cloud: Delay Poison Communal, which you also get at the same level as Brap Cloud
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>>2369602
Honestly, no.
Especially if you are merged Lich or Angel.
You might make a concession for Hellfire Ray - but that's about it.
Unless you went the instant death CC route with Illusion spells.
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>>2369542
Trickster and also abusing Spirited Charge + Gendarme Charge, or Vital Strike + 2H weapon & Trickster, + Skald Deadly Accuracy for another 1x crit multiplier increase, it's explained on video here
https://youtu.be/eIPdTCuCu7M
Although for other characters, even if you won't get 1k+ damage in one hit, you can still deal a total amount of way more than that in 1 round with Elemental Barrage and all the buff stacking.
For example, in the pic, all the secondary damage also comes from a singular attack.
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>>2369745
But metamagics highten my DC and save Daeran's already abused spellslots.
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>>2369751
I don't get where is the fun there.
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>>2369746
I really like the illusion spells, so I think I might.
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>>2369017
I want to do that with a monk and just be a supreme being powered by his own farts.
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>>2369755
big number make brain make dick hard
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>>2369706

I have one greater quicken rod so i assume lesser and regular are in there as well. I think i got it from the ghost that make questions but i am not entirely sure. Persistent may have been useful in Kingmaker but here your designated buffer has access to enduring spells as a mythic feat so any buff can last like 24 hours. That`s literally a game changer when it comes to buffs as you can just go around fully buffed for every combat. It`s ridiculous how much of a difference that makes. Like, everyone is enlarged, strengthened with Bull strength, and Bear`s endurance, protected from elements and alignments and whatever with archon aura or frightful aspect constantly on, hasted. And if that wasn`t enough those buffs lasting that long effectively give you more uses of that tier of spells in general as you can now use them on other things. It`s ridiculous. I guess persistent could still be useful for buffs that last only a few rounds though but i guess you can cover that with a rod so taking the feat still seems like a waste to me.
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>>2369755
Unga bunga me make the numbah go high
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>>2369770
Persistent is the one that makes enemies save twice. You're thinking of extend.
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>play wizard
>actually a grease salesman
Woooow
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>>2369785
You can buff your fighters to.
also sell fart clouds

The real fun begins when you can accidentally nuke yourself like >>2369501 or instant kill people with Phantasmal Killer.
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>step foot outside of Drezen
>immediately need to turn back because a dozen shitters want to talk to me
I'm not opposed to fighting the crusade from my cushy armchair but I would like to play this RPG GAME that I bought at almost full price
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>>2369798
>bought
How? There's not even a purchase option on gog-games. They're free.
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>>2369738

By the point that happens the queen loyalist are gone with the queen to IZ you have nearly unlimited resources for mercenaries and everyone in Drezen knows better than to piss you off. Like seriously, they literally saw the commander take Drezen twice (second time without effort even) and even be all chummy with Nocticula. If nothing else everyone should be able to reckon by that point that the commander got results were the queen didn`t and that the commander is the only one strong enough to deal with demon lords. Who would argue against the strongest force in Mendev guarding the capital until the queen`s return? And who would argue against him reluctantly remaining in power should something... unfortunate happens to her? And from those that would argue how many would survive long enough to pose any resistance? So you see, the soldier`s loyalty or the nobility`s backing are unneeded, they would realize they`ve been used far too late (if at all since all the weary would be... quietly disposed off and no one would ever know how the queen, ahem, disappeared. She went to IZ after all. She died a hero. And that`s just assuming you are not a Lich and raise her like a puppet). My point being that for anyone playing evil the request to pacify Neorysian should result in conquest
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>>2369772

Yes, sorry.
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>>2369798

Go play, let them wait.
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>>2369677
You only get to keep merged spellbooks so make sure you're a full caster
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>>2369830
i'm a mystic theurge
my merged spellbook is in of itself merged with my other spellbook
you see
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So where can I find all the metamagic rods so I can save on feats? I looked them up but the articles that say they know where they are don't even fucking have their locations.
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>>2369911
The wandering merchant has rods, it's random when he appears though.
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>>2369920
Are there selective ones?
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damn 20 Str?
poor fag shouldn't have gone inq
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In the end I don't think I'm digging lich that much...
I think I will diverge into legend, what classes can I dip into when I am lvl 20 invul rager to make it completely broken?
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>>2370007
>rager
>Lich
well, i found your problem
should've gone demon
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>Melee is too straightforward, I want to play a caster
>Casters are too detail oriented and sidelined, I want to play melee
i go through this weird cycle
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>>2370010
it's invuln rager aka barbarian.
It doesn't go with demon, the rages do not overlap.
It works with bloodrager.
I didn't have bad time with lich as melee especially indestructible bones but I am just not making full use of the path since I am not a caster so I am missing out on the most of the kit
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>>2370060
exactly
also, eww, should've gone blood rager
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>>2369848
>i'm a mystic theurge
Hows that working out for you?
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>>2370097
anyway what do you suggest
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>>2370112
Primalist Bloodrager is basically Barbarian but good. Go two-handed fighter for extra feats and BaB. Vital strike a bitch with that axe of yours.
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>>2370007
>he went lich as a martial class
lol. Lich is only good when you merge spellbooks.
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>>2370111
Well, I'm of varying usefulness until Drezen, where that usefulness begins to skyrocket. I get extra castings of the most important spells in both books and only miss out on 8th and 9th level spells of one class if I stick with Lich/Angel. You could get 25/25 casting if you go legend, allowing you to have both types of high level spells.

It's really no different to any other spellcaster. Just takes longer for the higher level spells.
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>>2370115
does second bloodline get you more rage powers?
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>>2370130
possibly
you only really need one
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>>2370118
I bet you could do great things with a monk lich, that negative damage from every natural attack could be pretty good.
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>>2370115
I went with greatsword, using the gorum cursed sword so far
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>>2370141
the monk requires no god powers
he is already a god
his fists are adamantite
his dick is thick
even wizard dykes want the rod
crazy shaman bitch receives it first
of course, it satisfies her thirst
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>>2370058
Paladin.
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>>2370164
>LG
no thank you
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>>2367774
That shouldn't even work. As a swarm, it should be immune to single-target spells.
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>>2370186
well, it's technically an outsider
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So Camellia's just some psycho NEET before you come along, right?
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>>2370266
Yes
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>>2369651
As Lich, I brought the Succubus Guards, the Human Gladiators, The Qlippoth kid, and the Aasimars and I think basically everyone lived? Maybe the humans died? Everyone else lived though.
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>>2370286
my god, i created a semi-divine monster
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>>2370289
It's okay. You can have sex with her than have her arrested, in that order.
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>>2370308
lol, does she bring it up when arrested?
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>>2370315
She won't be bringing anything up because she'll be dead.
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I fucking hate Alushinyrra, can't even walk 2 steps without obnoxious ambushes and my fps tanking
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>>2370318
Aww, I wanted to do a run where I kept her locked up like a psychopathic pet.
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What's the easiest way to get permanent Haste or at least permanent running running speed boost for the entire party? Tired of watching characters "run" in slow motion.
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Also Dragonkin sorcerers are a meme, why bother having your characters suck for 80% of the game and become "powerful" only for the last 20% when your entire party is supposed to be OP to begin with?
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>>2370340
enduring spells
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>>2370365
Enduring Spells doesn't give perma-haste though because it's round-based. And there's no perma-party speed buff afaik.
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Completed my first eun as an angel. Which mythic should I play next?
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>>2370000
Those teamwork feats were a bitch to fight against. They made them really strong.
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>>2370287

Did you need ingredients or something? I`ll keep that in mind though... i clearly did a lousy job not freeing anyone. Guess next time i`ll just kill the whole market and free the slaves that way. I mean, i`m not going to pay for every single slave.

>>2370308

Yes, that`s what happens... they "arrest" her. Personally i like to kill my former companions myself. It`s called manners.

>>2370340

One of the items the story teller fixed for me was a cloak that gave perma haste to all party members within 30 feet radius (plus a +4 insight bonus on ATK rolls, saving throws and skill checks) while it granted slow to all enemies that fail a will save. The catch is you have to be an Aeon and you get it on act 4 (or at least i did).

>>2370058

How about Magus or Eldritch Knight?
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https://youtu.be/Jn4rkZzbn7I
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>>2370452

How was it? The Angel path i mean... do you have to be a forgiving "holier than you" fag like Sosiel or can you play it rough and vengeful like the Hand of the Inheritor? In any case if you played it good the first time i would go with something evil, i know that`s what i am doing next. Probably a Lich since it gets additional companions. I allowed most of mine to live on the first run but i would gladly dispose of some next time.
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>>2370384
You can still do it with Greater Enduring Spells. If you have 25 caster levels (e.g. with spellbook merging), you can extend Haste to get 50 rounds, which is 5 minutes.
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can you sleep with both wenduag and arue in the same playthrough?
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>>2370647
Spellbook merging? How does it work?
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>>2367764
Clerics don't get to poach 4th/6th level divine caster and PrC spell lists for spell school cuts and don't get to no action no-save stun/daze with Knowledge checks. Clerics are stronger for a few reasons like domain powers and their spells running exclusively off of WIS, but Archivist is still total bullshit and is an easy 4th behind Wizards, Clerics, and Druids.
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gonna start an aeon playthrough

what class/subclass should i play?
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>>2370701

Inquisitor. Judge if you want to go martial, Monster tactician if you want to go summoner.

>>2366347
>>2366357
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goblin race DLC when?
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Is there any way to use WIS instead of INT for arcane spells?
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>>2371124
empyreal sorcerer
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>>2370494
>Did you need ingredients or something? I`ll keep that in mind though... i clearly did a lousy job not freeing anyone. Guess next time i`ll just kill the whole market and free the slaves that way. I mean, i`m not going to pay for every single slave.
I killed the merchants after I bought everything I wanted from them. It's a good thing too, you get the money back (only if you bought the slaves) and each one drops a fleshmarket token which lets you teleport there and sells for a good deal of gold.
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>>2370494
>Aeon: All spells come as swift actions, takes 20 on initiative checks, can be perma hasted.
f-fast!?
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>>2371450
very fast janny cleaning at incredible hihg speed
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>Camellia leaves in her romance ending
>doesn't get pregnant with your child
one job
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>>2371559
Lann is the only one who talks about family and children.
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>>2371572
Nenio also asks Arue about this.
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>>2371572
you can't have constant sex with the same persno and not get pregnant if you're forgoing the use of contraceptives
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>>2371572
Can shaman's magically protect themselves that way?
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>>2370650
Only if Arue is corrupted
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>>2371575
aww
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>>2371559
I think her god ending is more disappointing. She of all people would relish in divinity. She'd play the part of innocent goddess and then fuck over her worshippers by torturing them to death.
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>>2371572
/ourguy/
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>>2371572
you're forgetting about wenduag, who audibly voices her desire to breed daeran
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>>2371596
Yes, but Wendu is only interested in strong offspring, but she says to the Commander that she is not going to demand this from him.
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>>2371601
pretty sure because you'd give her mythic children
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>>2371596
breeding =/= start a family
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>>2371604
anon, i
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>>2371572
Based cave potato
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>>2370650
Why would you cheat on your cute bug wife with an old demonic hag?
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>take regill with me this time whenever im running around with arue
>he just consistently shits on her non stop
why is this manlet so based
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>>2371722
He has seen the truth of the femoid run society and found solace with his bros.
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>lucky bracers say I promise
>Areelu's theme is I promise
>tfw went Aeon
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PuVrGuBm3Ik&ab_channel=MARVELDCHeroes
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>>2371741
The curse of being a time janny cuck.
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>>2371559
Elves are thots, that just can't be trusted.

The only correct course of action is to impregnate them against their will.
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>>2371788
seriously
it'd fit her story of having a shitty family that factored greatly into her going psycho
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>>2371596
>>2371601

Wenduag actually wants children regardless of how she says it. If you consider everything you learn about her during her quest and her romance. She says a lot of mean shit to appear tough but we learn that most of the time she is just trying to keep her distance. The truth about Wen is she was the happiest when she was a kid chasing her dad around and only built her current persona to hide her weakness she didn`t choose loneliness, in fact that almost killed her, she chooses to keep others at a distance and to be alone as a way to avoid suffering their lost because mongrels don`t live long and their lives are dangerous. Her whole tough act is also related to how her father played his role as chief that`s her idea of how a chief should be but if she could cast all masks aside and just be herself she would have children and she would teach them how to hunt and stuff because those are her happiest memories. She would still tell everyone that it is for the good of the tribe or to keep the bloodline strong though...
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>>2371722

Jokes on him though... Arue acts like a prude but she probably gets wet when someone calls her a piece of shit. At least until she is redeemed
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>play monk
>reach Camellia reveal
>decide to keep and satisfy her
>go legend
>reach her final quest
>completely forsake the last of my dogma as I descend with her into darkness
This is one of my best roleplay experiences ever.
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>>2372039

Behold... the mythic simp.
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>>2372049
you're using that word
i don't think you know what it means

I was lawful evil and my backstory was the commander grew up in a monastery he never fully felt embraced or satisfied by. He followed the way of the fist not because he believed in it but because he didn't know anything else. By the end of the game, he's seen more than enough, met a lot of interesting people, and broke more than a few of his old beliefs. He branched off into shadow shaman (it's one hell of a class kit) which fit my roleplay narrative excellently since Camellia is one of the driving forces of his development.
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How do I make a broken melee character without deep understanding of the system?
Any guides I can check for explanation of interactions during multiclassing etc?
I always played single classes in crpg and I want to change that, I want to be broken for once.
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>>2372073
Rowdy 11
Vivisectionist 1
Slayer 8
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>>2372076
how does this fare when hit hard, folds like paper or can hold it's own?
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>>2372105
hit's haaaaaaaard
someone post your trickster screencaps
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>>2372115
I meant survivability
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>>2372137
Have a decent (14-16) dex stat, wear armor, and use buffs and you'll have a fun time.
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>>2372148
what weapons would you recommend?
should I just go for the ones I like?
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>>2372151
You could but you might find your favored weapon type with a meager amount of high level weapons per its type. Kukri, Fauchard, Rapiers, and Scimitar are the big dick crit weapons that are also good as just regular weapons
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>>2371340

Thanks.
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>>2372172
interesting, is it better to take a shield or go full retard double wield/two-hand?
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>>2372239
I've never tried shieldbash but it adds an extra attack but consumes more feats for a single one.

Since you're going rowdy, two-hand
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What do you guys even do with Lann? I got him on act 5 after Wenduag`s quest so he is sort of a bonus for me. I have enough archers and i don`t like monks but he is level 1 or 2 so i reckon i should be able to turn him into something useful. I thought maybe i could make him a dragon disciple and focus on unarmed attacks, natural attacks, natural armor, magic armor and high AC but his int is so damn low (not that i didn`t know that). He can`t even go into barbarian either because of his alignment so stances are out too. Basically he is too dumb to be a sorcerer and then dragon but not dumb enough to be just a violence machine. Wenduag is right when she calls him mediocre but then again he is a monk, i don`t know what i expected.
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>>2372258
Monks can be effective. It's just Lann's ranged where monks are best as melee attackers.
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How long is act 4 in comparison to act 3?
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>>2372248
>Rowdy 11
>Vivisectionist 1
>Slayer 8
Is there any guide for this? I would like to see the stat spread and kinda try to understand how this works
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>>2372248

No one ever takes a shield to become a damage beast. The primary focus is always defense and the effects. For example, look at this beauty:

The Undying Love of the Hopebringer (heavy shield / enhancement +5):
he wielder can choose to assign Light or Dark aura for this shield. Light Aura - All enemies in a 30 feet range are under faery fire effect, all companions gain a +2 insight bonus to saving throws and skill checks. Whenever an enemy lands a critical hit against the wearer or companion, the enemy must pass a Fortitude saving throw (DC 30) or be blinded and slowed as per slow spell for 1d4 rounds. Additionally any healing applied to the shield bearer will also heal all party members for 1d6 + shield bearer`s level. Dark Aura - All enemies in a 30 feet area have a -2 penalty to Initiative, all companions gain a +2 profane bonus to attack of opportunities and critical hit confirmation. Whenever a companion lands a critical hit against the enemy, the enemy must pass a Will saving throw (DC 25) or be under sleeping effect for 1d3 rounds. All curses, poisons, diseases and mind-affecting spells have their save DC increased by 2 both for enemies and companions.. If the wearer is of good alignment, shield gains holy quality for all attacks with this shield. Additionally for a standard action the wearer can use Light Nova ability, it deals damage to the wearer equal to 25% of her HP and heals everyone by 40 hp and deals 20 damage to all enemies. If the wearer is of evil alignment, shield gains an unholy quality for all attacks with this shield. Additionally for a standard action the wearer can use Dark Nova ability, it deals 20 damage to the all his companions and they get Chosen of the Dark Nova effect, while all enemies in a 30 feet area receive Pray of The Chosen. Under Chosen of the Dark Nova effect companions receive +5 damage bonus against Pray of The Chosen. If the wearer is of neutral alignment, the wearer can use both of abilities.
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>>2372279

Far shorter. There is still plenty to do though but i think chapter 3 is the longest one.
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>>2372296
I think I missed out on a lot of content, like the egyptian puzzles and some side areas related to old Serkosis.
goddamn this game is long
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>>2372310
nigga I'm at 140 hours and I am about to leave abyss, where is the end
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>>2372310
The egyptian dungeon is in act5
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>>2372357
You mean the entire thing is postponed until then?
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>>2372360
You can do some of the puzzles before
But you only unlock the final ones in act5 and you need to do them all to access the dungeon



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