from a gamplay view law route is best (slaughter the innocents)but I can't take denim seriously as a hero after going along with a war crime, especially since he and his sister suffered through one as kidsunpopular opinion, but neutral is actually my favourite route but it cucks you in terms of recruitable characters (it shits on denim even harder than when he goes along with genocide wtf)
>>2272452you get more characters than you need anyway and neutral is the only route that's even vaguely fair to Kachua
Go ahead with the false flag. If the Walister are too complacent to fight back before it's too late then they must learn the hard way.
>>2272184From a Character POV doing the Law made zero sense, also Vyce is a little bitch that don't deserves a happy ending or being a hero.And Denim is beyond based in Chaos.
My first playthrough was focused solely on saving Catiua.
>>2272184Law, route is the most fun, most interesting story wise, and Chaos/Neutral are just fucking lame. Also my halfbreed wife can only be recruited in Law route.
>>2273046Chaos is based is literally you vs. The whole continent and won
>>2273046I pity you. You look on the world and see only avarice and greed. You are prisoner and gaoler, held hostage by your own base desires. It is within you to free yourself, if only your pride would let you. Instead you lead your fellows to their doom.
If the PSP version had individual character levels instead of job based levels it would be better than FFT for me.
>>2273051NTA but yeah, you're right
>image don't doing chaos and losing Leonar vs Denam KINO
>>2273051>>2273081Chaos is literally Proto FFT, not that it's bad but I could just play FFT for the whole "me vs the world" Law makes it actually feel like a war, like the battles have some reason for taking place.
>>2273046yes yes, very good wife, very goodHOWEVER
>>2273260>Chaos is literally Proto FFTNo,Ramza is not even half as based as Chaos Denam >>2273151
The sister makes this game shit
played this game early this year, loved every second, whenever i have the time i'll give it another run, whats the most fun party? in terms of jobs
>>2274131no more than one unit per class1 dragon + 1 beast (octopi are godtier)ninja for ignoring height difference and getting behind enemy archers to fuck up the back linesdark knight cause they're fucking coolthe rest is up to you
I always get the urge to replay this game, but fuck if it isn't EXTREMELY tedious in a lot of ways. Any fan patches to make the more tedious parts less of a drag? Like increasing skill gains, crafting faster or making leveling new classes not a slog?
>>2274216I just used cheats in the emulator to boost EXP gain and craft rates. I've heard there's a mod called One Vision that rebalances a bunch of things, but I haven't tried it personally.
>>2274273Gotcha. Ill give it a shot. The game is stupid long if you want to do all the routes and everything, which just makes sense honestly with the time travel like system.
>>2274273I've tried One Vision, can recommend it.I did a playthrough on based Chaos route, just rushing the main story with no grinding and it was good fun.
>>2274131If you've unlocked a lot of classes you haven't used, it's fun to use them all on NG+ so you can level them all up simultaneously.
>>2272184Probably one of the easiest choices of my life.
>>2274216play snes version its much more comfythan garbage psp remake
>>2274627Snes version is bullshit.Tried it and damn it was unfair as fuck.Glad the remake fixed it.
>>2275672>UnfairIt's more broken than the remake because you can do dumb shit like having a swordmaster with petrify spells that never miss and full power summons.If you got filtered then you probably didn't stack enough damage and whatever stat that governs hit rate.
I tried playing both this and xenogears and bro....these are the only two games i'm considering just dropping and watching a playthrough instead.
>>2274273One Vision is literally the only rebalance mod that I would ever recommend to a first time player. It's legitimately just a better version of the game. Nerfing Ozma and making Lord more versatile but less powerful are the only debatable choices in the entire hack, and the hack is fucking huge.
>>2276299>the only debatable choices in the entire hackbut every single time it gets brought up I see some people complain about the rebalanced healers making fights a grindfest
>>2276408???Healing is hard nerfed. It's rarer, and revive spells straight up don't exist, specifically to avoid the grind of high level fights where every single character can shit out free HP.
>>2276427Really? Magic healing felt underpowered in base TO, whereas item healing was strong but the AI rarely used it because they didn't have the appropriate passive to let them use the higher tier items.The only times enemy healing were notable was that one battle against a high level Terror Knight surrounded by Clerics, and the Chapter 4 battle against Tartaros if he gets the rank 3 defence boost.
>>2276446I'm more referring to post-game, when everyone has everything.
>>2276427Revive spells don't exist anymore but rebalanced healers in the new patch are insane. They're quite bulky and their heals can easily turn the tides in battle
>>2276718Ah, that might be it, I haven't played in a couple years.
>>2274577>>2273046Ah, I see you are men of culture as well.
>>2273046>>2274577>>2276743I don't WANT to slaughter innocents but I also want best girl....
>>2276743>>2274577>>2273046Does he actually get to hook up with her or it's just anons waifufagging.
>>2276778They are literally waifufaggots the only reason that people choose Law is because Ravness and Ozma
>>2276887Ravness and Ozma, in addition to being very cute, are both great units, and there's no reason to complete Chaos or Neutral without them when you can take them back with the wonderful power of WORLD
>>2272184I don't like who Vyce immediately becomes evil if you choose Chaos when the game presents the Law option as horrifying but "ends justify the means" type pragmatic decision.
>>2276299Unless it fixes the Terror Knight's abysmal speed, fuck it.
>>2276892it really needed the build-up. It only makes sense after the fact and with all the extra story shit, like learning that Vyce was raised by a deadbeat drunk dad whose only refuge in life was with the Pavel family and how much he seethed over but ultimately envied Denam, it doesn't help that he devolves into a slobbering fucking psycho monster right on the spot either, his crazy face portrait shouldn't have kicked in until at least much later in the Chaos route
>>2276887>>2276891You also get Vyce in Law, so thats a potential Holy Knight, Temple Knight, and a a Ranger. Chaos has decent recruits like the sisters, and Cressida but nothing as good as Ozma, Ravness, and Vyce. Plus yeah, its a lot more unique narrative.
>>2272184Fuck this game.>Masacre everyone. >My best healer Prancett goes along with it.>Some bitch with a bow talks to him.>All his loyalty drops to zero.>Leaves right there on the spot. Also fuck it's long ass multichapter dungeon.
>>2276952>like learning that Vyce was raised by a deadbeat drunk dad whose only refuge in life was with the Pavel family and how much he seethed over but ultimately envied Denam...is that a fucking JoJo reference?
>>2276968bow's pussy game strong
>>2276952No it needed to not happen. It weakens the story when the game treats you one way if you do teh law route but then has Vyce wildly change character.It's bad writing
>>2276963>You also get Vyce in LawVyce can go to fuck himself
>>2277100Yeah, not letting that dweeb near my sister-wife.
>>2273046>>2274577poor mans agrias sorry.>>2273372excellent taste!
>>2276778Denim has a canon love interest with the blue sister
I was promised like 20 fucking more games of tactic ogres, where are they square?They are not even in chronological order, we skipped like 4 chapters between the Lancelot one and this one
>>2278342Man Knight of Lodis gets so little respect.Played it before LuCT and was damn fun.
>>2278382The final battle is fucking clusterfuck and also needing to beat the game in 24:59 hrs or less to see the true ending is a shit mechanic considering that Cutscenes can't be jumped
>>2277483She's not really anything like Agrias except for being a female Knight
>>2278342what little remains of the team that last worked on anything Ogre is stuck on FFXIV and I dont even think matsuno sadly gave that much of a shit to begin with, especially after jolning (then retiring from) Square. Most of the Ogre nods in XIV weren't even his idea but rather other ex-Ogre team members
>>2278485I'm obsessed enough with TO that it makes me want to play FFXIV.
Law route is better overall, but the best Denam is the Chaos one, and after playing with a Based Chaos Denam the Lawful one feels less somehow even if the route in general is better.
>>2278342Matsuno is an unpleasant person to work with and every studio hates him.
Why is slaughtering innocents considered 'Lawful' and not doing that 'Chaos'? If anything it should be the other way around since Denam's prior characterization would make it out of character for him to slaughter is fellow countrymen.
>>2276449I don't think anyone played the post game. Most people who are not either completely obsessed with the game, only bought this game and have nothing else to do, or are autistic get to floor like 30 of PotD and then just give up because it makes no sense and they're grinding for nothing.To say nothing about the fact that you have to do it twice...
I played the psp version and hated it./blog
>>2279410>Why is slaughtering innocents considered 'Lawful' and not doing that 'Chaos'?"Lawful" means following the laws or rules folllowing orders is considered Lawful, rejecting orders and becoming a outcast rebel is Chaos
>>2279410Because it's LAWFUL not NICEFUL
>>2272452>I can't take denim seriously as a hero after going along with a war crime, especially since he and his sister suffered through one as kidsvictims often repeat their abuse.
>>2278342>we’ll never get to see the remaining episodes of the sagaBros…
>>2276952This game hyped me up so much that when I beat it I immediately started a second run- but then dropped the game entirely because I couldn't fucking believe the sad sack of shit puppydog fucking face Vyce makes when you decide to murder everyone. I literally just spent 60 hours with him acting like a frothing-at-the-mouth retard and then suddenly he's just a little hurt cherub saint. Couldn't fucking believe itTook me two years to touch this fuckin game again after that. >>2276995Yes. If only Jonathan put on the mask we would've probably had Hamon Dio regrettably chasing him down
>>2280974>If only Jonathan put on the mask we would've probably had Hamon Dio regrettably chasing him downNow I want this.
>>2278583Whats the other sets in 14? Terror Knight, Wizard, and Rune Fencer?
>>2276299>rebalance mod >makes no cost aoes that nukes everyone in one hitget this overrated piece of shit mod out the way modder have no clue about balance
>>2280979>Now I want this.He should still be a charismatic, confident dick, though.