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Reviews are coming out and turns out it’s actually good
https://www.frontlinejp.net/2021/11/03/blue-reflection-second-light-review-the-ultimate-comfy-rpg/
> Conclusion: Despite a few kinks, Blue Reflection: Second Light shapes up to be one of Gust’s best games yet, featuring some of the best art design and music they have ever put out, relatively well-polished gameplay, an extremely fun battle system, great characters, and a very distinctive setting.

>Score: 90/100
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>The Bad: Extremely bad stealth sequences that are nothing short of miserable to play through.
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>>2233756
They’re optional
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anyone who played the demo could have told you it was good, but making a thread off a single review and putting it in the OP is pretty cringe anon
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>>2233825
don’t see any others yet
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The problem is that I cannot be fucked to play the first game anytime soon. I will never get to the second game.
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>>2233921
>i have to play every game in a franchise noooooooooooooo!!111
just fucking play it you coward
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>>2233921
The first game is only a little over 20 hours, one of the shortest Gust games ever. But you need to watch the anime too.

>>2233939
>too ADHD to appreciate anything, just consumes latest product mindlessly, then forgets about it next week
many such cases, very sad
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>>2233969
>'consoom' shaming, yet advocating for consooming all of the games and associated media before consooming the newest product

jesus fucking christ what is wrong with you
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>>2233921
First game sucks and isn’t relevant to this
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Somebody here who played it, please tell me if this sequel is any good.
I don't trust journos.

I just finished Lost Judgement and I hated it so fucking much, since it was terrible compared to the first that I loved. I don't want to go through the same thing again.

I don't mind the censored shit, I just want fun engaging characters, decent music, and the amazing atmosphere like the first had.

How is it?
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>>2233713
>Reviews
fuck off
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>>2234159

>>2234179
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>>2234159
it's shit
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Hey all do I have to play the first game to play this one? I missed it and it's really expensive now
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>>2235877
Just buy digital like a normal person then.
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>>2235877
Physical was a limited release, dumbass. And digital has exclusive content anyway,.
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>>2233921
>>2235877
They fucked up by calling this game "Second Light", it just seems to happen in the same universe but the story is standalone.
Yes, you can just start with 2.
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>>2237157
I have another question. I heard the first game had story-based leveling without experience or something like that? That was the main reason I passed on it. Does this game have that too?
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>>2237157
There are tons of returning characters including the protagonist of the first game. You're supposed to play this shit in order. Would you watch Godfather 2 without watching Godfather 1 first?

>>2238453
It's Persona inspired, you do character events to unlock stuff, similar to the social links in Persona.
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>>2238541
Those characters also lost their memories, the game has a new set of main characters.
I'm sure new players will be able to learn about the older characters in their specific event, probably will get a tl;dr of their backstory.
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>>2237157
>>2233921
>>2235877
"Second light" is a shitty localization name change

>>2238541
>There are tons of returning characters including the protagonist of the first game. You're supposed to play this shit in order.
Wrong, retard. This takes place after the mobile game which isn't even out yet.
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>>2233713
Just give it to me straight; how much girl on girl?
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>>2233713
>The first game is rated fucking R18+ for Nudity related to incentives in Australia and it's illegal to even sell the game digitally here
My country is just a sad joke. I guess I'll spend my weekend literally kidnapping fully modelled naked women and people of colour by beating them unconscious with a metal club to make into my genuine slaves in the MA15+ title Conan Exiles instead of playing a wholesome JRPG that only really has shower scenes at worst.
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There are actual lesbians this time (rena and Yuki, the biggest one and smallest one)

They’re also a couple after getting their memories back which makes how you can choose either as Ao’s partner really awkward
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>>2238984
Meant for >>2238801
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>>2238984
>the biggest one and smallest one
Patrician.
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>>2233756
How bad are they? How do they compare on a scale of Shadow of Rome tedious to Tenchu kino?
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>>2239084
go watch videos from nips on youtube
https://youtu.be/4S6fBqsHFa8?t=60
enemy behavior is completely random
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>>2239159
shit game
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>game now has shitty stealth sections
Haha, literally "what else can we rip off from Persona" lmao.
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>>2233713
>featuring some of the best art design and music they have ever put out
Funny, because the soundtrack is a huge downgrade from the first game.
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>>2238853
>>The first game is rated fucking R18+ for Nudity related to incentives in Australia and it's illegal to even sell the game digitally here
What the fuck are you talking about? R18+ ratings are not RC.
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>>2238984
But can (you) be a lesbian
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>>2239895
retard
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>>2240637
that is the entire game
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Is anyone actually playing this?
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>>2243043
I'm waiting for Sophie 2.
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>buy physical game
>extreme makeover swimsuits not available unless I buy the deluxe or ultimate digital versions
What the actual fuck??
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>>2243655
They've been doing this for years
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E-mail customer support and feign ignorance saying that you want to buy it but can't find it on the store

If enough people do that these stupid fuckers should relent eventually
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Kind of annoyed the sequel ended up reviewing well. I'm going to feel compelled to go back and finish the first one now
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physical chads rise up
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Can I gay date the twins? Yuzu was my favorite from the first game.
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>>2244929
I loved her too.
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>>2244929
No
>>2244854
Congrats, you can't get a load of content unless you buy digital anyway
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>>2245100
I'm probably never going to open it.
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>>2245100
Hiori it is then...
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>>2245172
You need to max everyone at talent level 10 for the good ending
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>>2245188
Oh so we don't have to choose? I always felt like the first game made it really difficult to max out affection on more than one character and I only went through one playthrough.
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>>2245252
You still have to choose one character in chapter 7 then in the ending and they're the one that appears in the true ending, but you still have to max everyone to get the true ending to begin with.
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>>2245269
Thanks for the info. That leaves a lot less stressed (for lack of a better word) on what to focus on. I'll be able to enjoy it a lot more knowing I don't have to worry about juggling social sim points around.
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Wasn't a huge fan of the first game and the anime, but this game is already _way_ better. I am glad I didn't drop the entire series.
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>>2245287
It’s actually worse, you get events where you choose between characters and the one you choose gets a TP boost, and you get limited TP boosting events in the game. If you use too many on one character you can’t max all of them and get the bad ending.
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So how yuri is this game?
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>>2245358
Same, I always thought this game would make or break the franchise to me, seems like they finally have a good dish here.
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Does this one have any girls with really fat tits? The first one didn't seem to so I passed on it.
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>>2246080
Depends how fat you're asking for.
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There's a quest to literally corn feed the country girl and I just find that hilarious.
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>>2246685
>pancake ass
>with a buttcrack that long
have the devs seen a woman's ass in real life
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>>2246711
It's probaby just the cellshader creating a black outline in that part of her body, not an actual buttcrack.
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>>2246711
Japanese women aren't obssessed with getting asses, it's just a genetics+cultural thing.
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What the fuck is this ending? How do you get the good ending?
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Didn't know they are college girls.
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>>2249672
Max out your relationship with everyone.
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>>2250046
>>2249672
>>2245287
>>2245188
wrong, you just have to clear the game on NG+
source https://www.frontlinejp.net/2021/11/12/how-to-get-the-true-ending-for-blue-reflection-second-light/
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>>2250058
>don't need tomax everyone out
Hiori's my bitch now, Ruka.
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>>2239159
Enemies all behave the same, walk-stop for few secs-turn around-repeat. Stealth is piss easy.
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>>2250647
Well Ruka doesn't even exist in Tie's universe.
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>>2250724
What's the point of making a cross-media project if the story isn't kept straight across media?
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>>2250731
Most likely Tie was rewritten so that it portrays Hiori, Mio, and Uta were the only characters in Ray because Ray was just that much of a failure.
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>>2233713
23 hours in and I like it a lot. It actually has gameplay now and it's good fun, although I wish boss fights wouldn't end just as you start to get to tier 3 combos. Guess I'll do NG+ on hard when it comes out this month.

Also, how the fuck does one on one battles work? Are you supposed to push dodge/counter exactly as the enemy line intersects the timeline line or what? My characters keep dying when I get forced into it, otherwise everything is faceroll.
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>>2250058
Spoil me the good ending. Does everything still get reset in it?
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>>2250740
That's not how the development of this stuff works, do you realize Second Light came out right after Ray finished? Even if they judged its performance only based on the very first TV and streaming numbers/first BD set preorders, that would only leave them with four months or so to do rewrites, re-recordings and any other elements that might've needed to be changed. What actually happens in cases like these is just lack of communication between projects that are being developed at the same time on a hectic schedule. Shitty comparison but it fits, the Sonic Boom game and TV show.
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I find it helps thinking about Tie/Second Light less as a coherent binding narrative for the multimedia project and more like the Project Cross-zone of Refractor.
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>>2250731
They didn't care because the anime was bad so they ignored it.
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I'm really happy with the game so far. On Chapter 4, looking forward to the weekend so i can spend more time with it. Everything is improved so greatly, I feel like us fans of the first game got really lucky. Sequels that improve this much and realize the potential of the first are pretty rare. Combat is fun and fast, Ryza comparisons are fair, but it still manages to feel unique. Mel Kishida's character designs look so good, I'm letting cutscenes play out fully and loving them. Crafting is simple, but supplemented with building so it becomes a little more involved. Dungeons are such a huge improvement. No more static, sort of relevant, tiny zones. Instead, we get full dungeons that serve as character development and retain the beautiful designs of the first game. Everything looks and feels good. I've seen complaints about stealth, but I don't think I've gotten far enough to have the same issues I've read about. Story is even more interesting this time. I'd recommend at full price to any anons sitting on the fence. Totally worth it.
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>>2250808
SOTY Soul of the Year
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Is it really full Yuri? I don't like it.
Can I still enjoy this if I don't want girls to love each other?
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Protect this smile.
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>>2250660
That's only in the tutorial ones, retard
You didn't play the game
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>>2250762
it's in the link, retard
learn to read instead of asking everyone to spoonfeed you

>>2250740
>>2250731
>>2250724
hiori literally mentions ruka in the chapter 7 bonding event dumbfuck
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>>2251152
The site didn't even load for me, you faggot.
Now it does though.
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>>2251152
>hiori literally mentions ruka in the chapter 7 bonding event dumbfuck
No, she doesn't.
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>>2251214
>he played the trooned localized version
lmao
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>>2251232
You can still hear their voices, and Hiori never mentions or says Ruka's name.
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>>2251242
>>2251214
She doesn't say Ruka's name but she's clearly talking about her.
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>>2251245
She isn't.
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>>2233713
Imagine supporting censorship
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>>2251273

>>2251252
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Why is hard mode locked behind NG+? Battles are again a snoozefest and you even level up pretty fast.
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>>2251702
What's with these retards who haven't cleared the tutorial parts yet talking shit about the difficulty, anyway?
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>>2251708
>the real game starts 40 hours in!
I'm so fucking sorry if I'm not a braindead retard zoomer and I'm actually looking for some challenge in the games I play. But we live in a world where Dark Souls is used a metric of difficulty, so I'm not surprised.
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>>2251728
braindead retard zoomer
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Ao is stronk.
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>>2251147
wrong. Eat shit.
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>>2251273
Imagine thinking there's such a thing as an uncensored game in 2021
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Who gave the angry autismo access to the internet before his meds?
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SOVL
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>>2252015
The aesthetic of a classroom turned into a casual room is pretty kino.
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>>2251993
Not with this attitude
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alright you guys win. i just started it
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>>2252492
yes, Mel fucked up and actually admitted to it. The same "modern standards" discussion still takes place for every game made.
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>>2252854
fucked up about what?
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>>2252865
admitting to toning down fan service to appeal to a broader audience.
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>>2251273
>supporting
did you guys actually paid for a censored game?
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>>2252874
how come that webm shows her disappearing when you look from behind but you can still see their panties during cutscenes and stuff
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>>2252965
On-demand pantyshots are boring.
https://youtu.be/_Q9etU1sGHo
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>>2253065
fair point. definitely like to earn it myself
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>>2246384
Are those the biggest in the game?
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>>2253206
IM SORRY
my mom is making me apologiz efor making so much words lingo im sorry talk to you later guys
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>w-we are not censoring it due to pressure, I swear!
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>>2253968
Fanservice was the last thing on my mind when expecting this game to come out.
Not to say I wouldn't welcome it, but they delivered on other aspects that satisfied me.
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>that chapter 4
Well, that was a pleasant surprise.
Finally Gust, was it that hard?
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>>2254651
You talking about the yuri?
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>>2254652
Yes.
I'm enjoying the game a lot, it's a massive improvement over the first.
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>>2254651
>>2254663
Someone at Gust finally woke up on the based side of the bed. I can only hope they start doing it in Atelier too, shame that Sophie 2 isn't set after Lydie & Suelle or they could've done it there with Sophie and Plachta.
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>>2252004
He's a kid from /v/ that spams and samefags blue reflection threads with tantrums about censorship, shills, pirate the game, etc.
He tried to do same shit on /a/ and he got banned
>>>/a/230467691
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>>2252492
how am I supposed to interpret this tweet?
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I just got the game a few minutes ago. How's the Fragment system this time around? I remember that in the first game it almost didn't matter which shit you have equipped unless you were playing on the hardest difficulty at the endgame
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>>2255045
Changing Hinako's ATK buff to target everyone mattered a lot.
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Just finished chapter 1. Definitely a huge improvement over the first game. Since most of the season pass stuff won't be available until January, should I put this on hold for now? I know they're mostly just costumes, but there looks like at least an extra dungeon and some skits.
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Is Rena just useless in the party? Shiho is better than her at everything.
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>>2255206
Rena is a supporter. She gets an autoheal support ability.
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>>2255260
and Shiho gets two healing skills as a support.
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>>2255269
Yeah but Shiho can murder the final boss in ten seconds and Rena can't.
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>>2254651
>>2254652
>>2254663
>>2254672
You say that, but then Shiho confirms that the phone game's protag is a male
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>>2255867
I care about there being yuri, not there being exclusively yuri.
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>>2255870
But what if there is yuri
And then he joins in
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>>2255874
Either pic related or someone makes Gust into the next KyoAni.
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>>2255867
It's a Japanese gacha, so more likely (you) are going to be a neutered wall flower than actively pursuing girls like you would in something published by Yostar.
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>We will add the highest difficulty level "MUST DIE", which makes the enemy even stronger than the difficulty level "HARD".
>It is a content that allows you to enjoy a more chewy battle.
>In addition to strengthening enemies, the item drop rate from enemies will increase.
Coming nov 23
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>>2255934
What a bunch of dorks.
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>>2255934
Still locked behing NG+. What carries over?
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How coomer is this thing?
I don't like most jrpgs becasue of that.
P5 was the most I was able to tolerate.
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>>2255994
More coomer than the anime, less coomer than the first game. If you don't get the cosmetic DLC, you probably won't have a problem. But whether you'll actually like the game is a different story.
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>>2255994
If you're the type to go "woah sex so icky" or "is that an attractive underage girl, noooo it makes me feel like a pedo for looking at her" then no, you won't enjoy it. It's a slow paced character driven game anyway, you mainstream people need drama and high sakes to have fun with anything, and this game has none of that.
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>>2255934
Sugoi
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The mods are out.
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>>2257157
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>>2257157
Where? On Nexus or with the twitter guy that mods Gust games?
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Just beat the game now I'm looking to fully plat it. What the hell dictates unlocking the remaining areas on each map? I had Kokoro's unlock and I have no idea how. And where the fuck is the tiramisu recipe? If it's a NG+ thing I'll just wait for the update.
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>>2254651
You said this like they never did it before.
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>>2257688
Well this is a bit different since the girls in BR are highschoolers and when NoA came out the world wasn't as shitty as today. Also after how much they baited in the first game.
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>>2257688
I haven't played Night of Azure, do they unequivocally go "I love you" at each other?
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>>2258255
More or less, but yeah.
Basically they confess love to each other before last mission/stage. And spend night with each other.
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>>2257235
>funny and cute
i sleep
>cute and funny
uoooooohhhh
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Fuck lads the timing for counters is so tight. I don't think I've succeeded a single time so far. Is there a trick to doing it?
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>>2259166
Probably only works as intended at 60 fps.
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>>2259185
You mean I have to cap myself down to 60 FPS? Fuck
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>>2259185
Holy fuck this actually worked. Either that or I'm getting lucky
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>>2259511
lmao knew it, this kind of mechanics are always tied to framerate
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>>2259511
>>2259587
It's 30 on consoles, isn't it? It's probably meant for that, not even 60fps.
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>>2259166
Usually works for me to let the line pass and wait for the enemy animation to start
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If you're on PC I cannot recommend enough that you swap out some DLC outfit for the reflector costumes and equip them when you explore a new heartscape. It's completely changed my experience, I'm actually playing a mahou shoujo and not just a high school melodrama.
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>>2259633
and it fits with the lore since they're exploring heartscapes filled with demons, pushing 10 ton boulders, jumping huge heights etc. which they'd only be able to do in reflector mode + Hinako was always in reflector mode when exploring the common in 1. I don't know why they did it like this, probably some appeal to the west bullshit.

as an added bonus: lots of upskirts since they didn't design the cutscenes with those outfits in mind.
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>>2259633
How the fuck are you taking 8K screenshots, what beast of a PC can keep.a stable framerate under so much load?
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It's not stable at all and I've capped it at 30fps on a 3080 but I'm playing 5k with some heavy reshade filters. I just like taking screenshots too much.
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Retard here, are these games basically just Persona, but gay and not stupid long?
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>>2260089
Stop comparing everything Persona.
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>>2260117
Tokyo Xanadu, but gayer?
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>>2260290
yeah something like that. The whole point is getting to know the characters, the JRPG stuff is just for flavor. People call it yuribait or whatever but like most Gust games there isn't really any romance it's just about relationships/empathy.
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>>2260326
>the JRPG stuff is just for flavor
That's unfortunate. Still curious about these, but I generally can't play JRPGs if the gameplay doesn't do it for me.
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>>2260326
That is more true for the first game, the gameplay mechanics in the sequel are more fleshed out.
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>>2260326
It's pretty clear you haven't played very far into the game, if at all. There is romance, the player character just isn't the focus. I won't spoil anything, but romance is absolutely part of the game.
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>>2260385
Yeah there's an actual yuri relationship now but I found it pretty dry and forced. They had zero chemistry in the actual game, just whatever happened in those flashbacks.
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Why is my Shiho so far behind on the talent levels? I'm building everything.
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>>2260435
I disagree, but you know, opinions. I liked the execution, I can see it not working for others though.
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>>2260473
I had Shiho at 10 and she was still getting TP in my game so maybe you're playing it wrong
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>>2261290
I don't know, she's not getting any dates. I'm pretty sure I'm always doing everything before proceeding with the story. She's even in my main team.
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>>2261397
Happened the same to me, just keep playing and it would be some cutscenes where the characters are discusing something, agree with her and that would unlock more dates and request.

Anyone knows when Hiori unlocks her second sword? She use two swords during level up and some cutscenes but she only fights with one.
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>>2261649
She only uses it in her big finishers. Her pulling it out for the level up has been a subject of a lot of ridicule in the Japanese fanbase.
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>>2261669
Really? Care to explain why?
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>>2261669
>a subject of a lot of ridicule
Hiorisisters...
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>>2261674
Because she pulls out a second sword for no reason after the battle ends every time and that's dumb?
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>>2261676
What a moron. If she used two swords the whole battle, her attack power would double.
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>>2261676
Maybe her second sword is cursed? I think she is cool, and looks really nice having her fight with Hinako in the same team.
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>>2261678
Hiori's the single most broken character in the game. There are videos of her and Shiho wiping the final boss' entire life bar in one combo.
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>>2261680
I thought people used Shiho as a support bot.
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>>2261685
Those are people who are bad at the game and can’t read. She has a purple attack that gets buffed by talent level for 1000 EP and Hiori makes the enemy weak to purple.
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>>2261688
>purple attack that gets buffed by talent level
Buffed damage AND crits at that.
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>>2261676
>that's dumb
So is Hiori.
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>>2261649
>where the characters are discusing something, agree with her and that would unlock more dates and request.
I guess that's what fucked me over. Well then.
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Ok, Ao, jeez. No more of those "YA" novels you keep reading.
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>>2262092
Rude.
She is the best reflector.
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>>2262378
Ao is such a slut holy shit.
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>>2263039
You made her act slutty.
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>>2263048
Anon only brought out what was already there.
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>>2263055
You could make her be better but chose not.
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>>2263056
Nothing is better than a girl being a slut towards other girls.
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>>2263082
Ao is shameless.
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Finished my first run earlier. I feel like the music was a lot weaker than the first game this time around. Also my main complaint with the first game re-appears. It's just too god damn easy. I built Hinako all into ether speed, Ao all into crit, and Shiho just to be invincible and it straight blocked me out of 1v1s and ether tides. It was actually impossible for me to get to a 15 combo without killing the enemy, and trying to break a boss' guard would also wind up with them dead before it happened.

Also is there a secret ending if I do another run? It seems like there might be but I don't want to commit to another playthrough if there isn't.
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>>2263258
Yes, true end is New Game+.
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>>2262378
she cute
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What carries over in NG+?
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>>2263258
Same, all of characters are level 50 and I've never gotten ether tide because everything dies too fast. I'm waiting on the new dlc difficulty to drop on Nov 23 before my second run.
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Couldn't they come up with more dialogue? Been reading this shit for the past 30 hours.
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Err, yeah, sure. The sun.
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>>2264418
At least they're not voiced in this game so you can just not read the balloons, I can still hear Awin going on about combustible oil in Escha & Logy.
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>>2261680
Is Hiori actually broken? She's healing after every attack for me, I don't see what's supposed to be causing that. She's literally unkillable.
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>>2264456
Yes, she is the best character hands down in my experience. Give her a crit boost and other speed up fragments and she kills everything and gets free turns
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>>2264456
>She's healing after every attack for me, I don't see what's supposed to be causing that.
I guess it's this thing.
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>>2264489
ah, there it is. Thanks. UI is good but could be better, you should be able to sort fragments.
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>>2264501
Was it rape?
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>>2264505
Ao was just helping her gather some research material
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>>2264501
>you should be able to sort fragments.
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>>2264537
well, shit
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>>2264501
Why is Ao such a fucking slut?
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Is it soft gay, like Nights of Azure 1, or super hard turbogay like Nights of Azure 2? This is an important question.
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>>2233713
I've had a very sad realization, it seems like there's only going to be 6 playable characters and I still have 3 girls left to go, before I started the game I didn't expect to have this many playable characters but after getting a bunch I really looked forward to having playable Uta but now I don't think that'll happen. I'll report back later..
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>>2265314
It could still be DLC. I was really hoping we'd get a playable red reflector.
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>>2265314
>>2265381
Uta and Mio not being able to transform is a plot point and the story leaves no room for postgame story content.
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There's just so much shit between fragments, talents, buildings and consumables that I wonder if there will be a point to all of them at the highest difficulty. Balancing everything isn't gonna be simple and Gust doesn't have a good track record.
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>>2265402
If it's anything like NoA2 potential DLC will be mid-game, not the end.
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>>2265402
Gust modelling their reflector outfits for the flashbacks makes me think it's very likely they'll be added later.
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>>2265494
They are going to make Ray a game.
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Bosses don't even last 30 seconds against Hiori and Shiho, what the fuck Gust.
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I don't want this ride to end
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>>2265544
>Blue Reflection Ray DLC
Yes please and i hope my favorite hobo becomes a playable character too
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To have HARD MODE (aka more like the Normal Mode) unlocked from the get go, copy this "data.dat" file

https://anonfiles
.com/74N7q8Wfub/data_dat

to this directory and overwrite
>Documents\KoeiTecmo\BLUE REFLECTION Second Light\SystemData
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>>2266158
btw forgot to add: You can change difficulty at any time, so even if you're already mid-playthrough you can swap to Hard Mode with this.
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>>2265314
I made it to Uta only to end up disappointed but before the game launched I expected her to be support anyway, I just got my hopes up mid-game after seeing some of the other playable characters. I've loved all her interactions so far, all the other girls being wary of her has been so enjoyable to see and they seem to have done her justice after the anime, can't wait to play more tomorrow
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>>2265544
Nah, no one cares about that flop.
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>>2266176
Anon, you are basically playing blue reflection ray 3.
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>>2266158
>still oneshotting everything
well let's wait for that additional difficulty
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>>2266176
anon you can't come into a BR thread and say nobody cares about a flop when the entire franchise flops consistently.

i'll keep buying it anyway
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>>2266424
Me too. Loved the anime and loved the games even tie as a game is really fun.
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I haven't played the first game yet but I got Second Light since I'd been hearing good things about it and the demo convinced me. I decided to at least watch the anime before playing it since it has characters from it.
>Niina's backstory
Jesus, this got way darker than I expected. Do the games have stuff like it too? People always say the first game feels depressing but comfy.
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>>2266601
You'll love Shino's backstory.
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>>2266730
Oh well, I'm expecting something messed up now so I'll be fine. On episode 9 and I'm really enjoying it so far, it doesn't even look that bad once you get used to the character designs being a very gross approximation of Mel Kishida's style, but at least everything has stayed consistent. I like the characters and the pacing.
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>>2266738
Ruka is beautiful when there's no QUALITY.
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>>2266738
What I don't like is that all the characters look sunburnt, they were vaguely trying to reproduce Kishida's shading style but it really didn't work well.
Drawing isn't very consistent too but it can occasionally look very pretty, I like how it has that mid-2000s anime vibes.

In terms of plot, I like it but it can get a bit overwhelming, the games have more breathing room for relaxing times, the anime has some of that but more often than not it's on a breakneck pace.
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Why the fuck does Hiori lose her debuffs on Gear 5?
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I pirated this game
though I will buy it if it has actual yuri in it instead of just bait
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>>2267474
>seven other girls to choose from
>being a homewrecker anyway
Based.
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>>2239084
They're bad & boring, but thankfully they're mostly easy. The real problem with them is that when you get caught and instantly teleported back to whatever checkpoint they set, the enemy that caught you just kind of picks up from there instead of resetting, fucking up their original movement pattern and either widening or straight up eliminating any windows you were supposed to use to sneak by. That said, it didn't cause me any trouble until a certain quest late game in a dungeon made up of tight hallways, but goddamn that was frustrating.
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>>2235877
Ideally you'd want to play it and watch the anime since main characters from both become your party members and/or play major roles in the story.
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>>2268298
I did liked them but those were easy.
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>>2268313
*like
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Anyone knows where can I find the Acidic water recipe?
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>>2268489
Shiho's Heartscape if I remember correctly. In one of the locked sections.
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>>2268562
Thanks. That must be why I can't get it, I still can't open some of her sections.
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Just started chapter 4. It's great seeing Hinako again. It's been a long time since I played the first game, but was she always this adorably autistic? Also I swear I spend more time going on dates than doing the dungeon crawling part. These girls are always thirsting for one on one time with Ao.
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What influenced Ao to behave like a dirty old man? Was it all the anime and manga she read?
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>>2269734
>All that sideways space
unff
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If anyone's planning on being autistic and max upgrading all facilities then the final dungeon has a ton of sand drops making material grinding very easy.
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>>2269750
Do you know if facilities upgrades carry over ng+ ? I'm at chapter 9 and I don't know if I should try to max everything now or wait for the new difficulty update.
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>>2269886
Doesn't look like it.
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>>2266738
>I'm expecting something messed up now so I'll be fine
I thought so too.
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>>2269892
Damn that kinda sucks. Thanks.
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So Shiho can be the best attacker or the best healer? On top of also being the cutest girl?
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>>2269750
I'd just use cheat engine. The upgrades are clearly bugged, as the "counts 1 material as 2" shit doesn't work for them. You are not supposed to farm that much shit. It works for building stuff, but that usually doesn't cost more than 1 of something anyway.

That said, most things are unnecessary. Some of them are really stupidly OP though. Just max Tent, Sunflower Bed and Train Platform. Activate all 3 and laugh at anything the game throws at you.

-Lots more Attack
-Lots more Defense
-A whole fucking lot more starting speed (essentially Rank 4 with the Yuuki buff and such)
-More speed gain on skills
-Tons of status ailment resistance

That and the set bonuses (i.e. Yuki's Projects and A Place to Come Together) does the rest.

Want every normal battle to be free as well? Build Swing Set and pay 1 Rainbow Paint when you want it active for the dungeon. Then ambush enemies and given your starting ether and stupid power, you tear through them super easily before they ever get a move.


It's funny how Yuki is godlike with her starting ether buffs, and then you build the fucking Sunflower Bed and can't believe the devs anymore. How in the world is that thing even remotely balanced.
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21st of December?
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>cut scene track is Overdose
>actual battle OST is Hallucination & Hope
T-thanks Gust...
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I think the baseline quality of the OST is about the same as BR1 or even better since there are more tracks and more variety but what was he thinking not doing the stand out EDM boss battle tracks? The final boss theme sucked.
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>>2270246
He hasn't listened to an entire loop just in case it's not the battle music.
Do you even Overdose?
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>>2270264
The game has a lot more comfy/ambient/relaxing type tracks and I really like them using the main theme a lot as a motif.

I think overall the BR2 soundtrack has higher average quality and more great tracks, but the problem is that ALL the battle themes are dog shit while all the BR1 battle themes are godlike
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I just starting playing the 1st game because I'm interested in the series. I love how huge an autist Hinako is.
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>>2270271
I really enjoyed the battle themes in Tie, but I would've liked if there were more of them. The first game spoiled me with it's 5 big boss battles each having 3 battle tracks each.
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Do the dialogue choices in dates influence anything aside from which Fragment you get at the end? I tried Shiho's first date a couple times and got two different Fragments but always the same amount of TP, is that how it works all the time or are there "better" outcomes?
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>>2270648
I've seen dates range from 8-12 TP but could just depend on the date. Although you'd think the selection matters.
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>>2270265
At least you got that, Ray bros got nothing.
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>>2271151
Because they knew no one would like that trash. And seeing how it's home release go cancelled, they were right.
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Just got Hiori. Holy fuck she's strong.

>>2271151
Were there any memorable battle tracks in Ray?

>>2271232
It did end up getting a home release.
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>>2271271
Blue reflection ray battle theme.
>>2271232
I'm sure they liked ray, tie even explained what happened to Mio after the events of Ray.
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>>2271279
Ray and it's director was also mentioned in the game's credits.
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This is probably a weird thing to complain about especially in a fantasy/magical girl game, but I wasn't a huge fan of the super natural stuff in chapter 5. I imagine that will be touched on more in the gacha?
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>>2269924
Also best ether battery. Also best design normal and reflector form. Also best and almost the only panty flashes in combat. Also best wife. She can be everything you want. Devs didn't even try to hide who they were all simping for.
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>>2271513
Gotta make sure players know who to whale for in Sun.
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>>2271516
I wouldn't, she is boring and I don't care about meta.
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The patch is out.
-Deathwish difficulty added
-Hospitable Kitties outfits
-Hidden Island map
-Photo Booth facility
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>use Ether Synthesis
>can't leave
Wtf?
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>>2272216
No wait, I'm just a retard and got locked in the tutorial. Ether synthesis is so good.
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>>2272281
So what, you deconstruct items into ether points and can remake them into other items?
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>>2272284
Yeah, saves you a fuck ton of time.
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>>2271827
I hope the extra difficulty is challenging, about to start my second playthrough and I better get ether tide at least once this time or I'm giving up platinum on this game.
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>>2257157
>>2272304
nude colored panties are kind of lewd
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Chill the fuck out Ao.
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>>2271827
I'm still slaughtering random mobs in a couple hits, and I haven't optimized anything.
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>>2272363
they also added a new two character ether move, hope it looks cool. The big moves have been pretty unimpressive for a Gust game.
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No spoilers, but I just watched the trailer and:
1. Is the MC from the first game in this? There was a girl who looked like her
2. UNCENSORED HANDHOLDING?
3. Is it playable on Switch or should I opt for a different platform? I remember the first game having ass for optimization so I can't imagine a Switch port being functional
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>>2272484
1. Yes, she's a playable party member though she doesn't show up immediately.
2. They somehow got it past the censors.
3. There's a demo you can try to see for yourself. I've been playing on Switch and my only issues are jaggies on character models and low-resolution shadows on the ground, the performance itself is fine. Pic related is a screen I took from it.
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Unrelated to the game itself but has anyone been to that bluereflection fans discord server? What a fucking shithole that was, literal faggots asking pwoplw for thwir preferred pronouns and talkung abour male privilege
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>>2272509
Why would you ever go to discord?
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>>2272516
Because im stupid
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>>2272509
I went there, yeah you can tell that there's a lot of "that" type of people browsing there, but at least I found there a link to another Atelier Discord and that one is pretty cool actually, it also has a chat for Blue Reflection.
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>>2272527
Never heard of it, all gust related servers ive seen are full of trannies
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Why she's like this?
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>>2272509
>ever joining any discord
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>start chapter
>dates upon dates
>make a couple new facilities
>dates about the facilities
>new dates for party members who reach a new TP level
>finally get to new Heartscape
>grab some materials I needed to build facilities
>go back to build them
>dates
I greatly enjoy being a gay schoolgirl but I think they should get their priorities a bit more straight.
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>>2272449
I started a new game and I've had to grind a bit but I'm sure as soon as I unlock fragments it'll be a cakewalk.
>>2272778
yeah there were like two or three points in the game where I was just doing dates for 2-3 hours straight.
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>>2272778
>>2272781
It's definitely a pacing issue for late arriving characters, but I am enjoying the non-stop dates with the Hirahara sisters so I can't really complain.
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>>2271271
>It did end up getting a home release.
No, it got cancelled.
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>>2272833
I'm not going to argue it wasn't a bomb, but there is a physical release as of last month.
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>>2272865
>dvd
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>>2272915
>moving goalposts
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>>2272915
Not like Ray has much to benefit from a BD release, it's so basic-looking.
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>>2272810
The Hirahara sister were a fucking tease. Every time Mio had a serious date she dropped some bombs.
hey Ao, did I ever tell you about the time I tried to take everyone's feelings? Hiori opposed me, we fought and she won.
hey Ao, do you know why Hiori and I share heartscape? One day I blow up my own fragment, I was like a zombie but Hiori found me and she shared part of her fragment with me.
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>>2272981
It's called Blue Reflection Ray not Digital Reflection Video Disk
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>>2273007
Blue reflection Ray remake when?
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>>2273031
After the mobage becomes the next FGO and saves the franchise of course.
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>>2273033
Damn.
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>>2273037
Alternatively, they'll just funnel the Sophie 2 and Ryza 3 money into it while Koei Tecmo isn't looking as they've done before.
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>>2273042
I hope Sophie and Ryza sells more so we can have more blue reflection.
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>>2272484
I bought for Switch and like the other anon said it mostly works fine. Only issue I had was a character permanently blushing after an event but it went back to normal after I saved, went back to the title screen and then loaded it up. Also one time I didn't get TP from a request, but that was really it.
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>>2273014
>all this family drama
Don't care, I just want eat curry with Hiori and have onee-sama to call me Moon Shadow in bed.
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I'm about level 40 and have Ao starting battles at gear 4. Is it worth taking some ether fragments off of her to up the challenge or does it stay too easy at this point (playing on normal, in Uta's heartscape)?
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>>2272778
>>2272781
I ended up spending 2 real life days catching up on dates and requests in chapter 10 because everything in the story so urgent. There's not many places in the game where it feels "appropriate" story-wise to go have fun with the girls.

>>2273077
It stays easy in my experience (and I suck at video games).
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>>2273082
>Ao, I really think we should go recover my memories, I feel so distressed without them...
>Shut up and hold my hand girlie, I'm bringing you behind the gym where nobody can see us.
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>>2273066
>onee-sama
It's onee-chan, you pleb.
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>>2273102
For Hiori. For Uta and the non-existing Niina it's onee-sama.
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That time when Yuki goes missing and then she casually walks by in the cutscene when I go to sleep
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>get two girls to gear 5
>ready to ether tide
>combo needs to be at 15
>only at 8
>boss HP already at critical
Guess I'll never see an ether tide.
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>>2273107
I think Shino also called her onee-chan.
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>>2271827
This outfit shows how beautiful are Hinako's hinakos.
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>>2271271
Do sisters actually do that?
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>>2273656
They do when they lack parental figures due to their dad dying in an accident and their mom going to buy a lightbulb on another planet and never coming back.
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It's a pretty weird decision to seemingly have a male MC/self-insert for the mobile game, assuming we'll be playing as the guy Shiho and Kirara talk about. I'm perfectly fine with male MCs, but after BR, Ray, and BR2? Just odd.
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>>2273700
Might be the usual mobage faceless self-insert who's barely even referred to, but in that case it would still be weird to make it explicitly male.
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>>2273702
>>2273700
If there's a guy in the game I want him to transform into a magical girl, it's not really that uncommon.
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>>2273719
Not happening, Shiho specifically says he doesn't fight, i.e. more of a manager/'producer'/strategist role like most other gacha MCs. Also didn't Witch's Weapon already try that pretty recently and flop hard? No idea what Gust is expecting with this mobile game, even with a feMC it'd be facing an uphill battle in the cutthroat gacha world
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>>2273728
Lame but I expected that.
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>>2272865
It's only for rental in shops, but if it lets more people watch it that's good.
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>>2273897
does Uta fuck anyone in the anime
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>>2274064
No, but she masturbates to audio recordings of Niina berating her
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>>2274179
Was that scene really necessary?
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Sometimes I wonder why so many Rpgs go to shit in the final part, with gameplay.

-Hey, now bosses randomly 1 vs 1 you whenever they feel like it, instead of just sometimes at the very beginning of a battle or when double knocked down. Btw, that completely cancels all your ongoing attacks and resets your ether TEHEHEHE. Of course they are also so fast you can't possible get your attacks out even if you hit weaknesses.
-Oh let me just put this enemy in this small path so you can't actually pass it in any way, or use the ambushing system :)

It's like they want to annoy the living crap out of you. It's not like it's hard. You can literally go afk in 1vs1, never heal and just attack whatever without much of any healing whatsoever, on the highest difficulty. It's just a waste of time.

Aside of that, the 1 vs 1 system is really ultra garbage. For the most part you don't see it, so it's whatever, but at the end it shows how ugly it is. A big reason why the special attacks you can use once your combo is high enough will NEVER be possible to be used. The bosses are dead WAY before that, or 1 vs 1 you, which either kills your combo or you kill the boss.
Also, I don't understand what they were thinking when designing the gears. Feels like most girls get WEAKER when you get on a gear higher than 3. Some of the best abilities the girls have vanish either already at gear 4 and if not then at gear 5. Like Shiho ether + knockdown heal? Gone at 5. Ao's healing scythe? Gone at 5. Kokoro's fast and strong slowing attack? Useless at 4, as it takes over twice as long to apply an effect. You else tend to lose elemental coverage. Like Ao loses her pierce that crits when the enemy has an ailment after.. 3? Seeing how you can't exactly choose to not gear up, this feels like an incredibly dumb idea.
You know. Blue Reflection 1's battle system was better. It had barely room to shine, but it was definitely better.
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Rukabros... I got to chapter 7 and made a backup save so I could see if Hiori mentioned Ruka. Doesn't sound Ruka honestly. Hiori mentions the girl she was friends with kept pushing her away, but I remembered Hiori and Ruka seemed to be pretty fast friends mainly hindered by their autism. Sounds more like she's talking about Niina.
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>>2274481
It's alright. Accept Ruka's fate as the yaya of Blue Reflection.
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>>2274311
>Seeing how you can't exactly choose to not gear up
I found this fragment which caps your gear, maybe there are more, but yeah I agree it's a stupid design decision. Hiori loses her debuffs, for fuck's sake.
They do dumb stuff like this all the time, wasting a lot of potential.
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Did they made Hiori lewder in the game?
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Shin Megami Tensei V (2021)

>>2274678
Hiori is pure genki retard, but it just makes it easy for Ao to take advantage of her depending on what dialogue choises you make.
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Decided to go back and also look at the Shiho confidant scene to see what the meltdown was about. English version uses "they" instead of "he". Also unsure if they changed any of the intentions in the English version, but it really didn't come off as Shiho lusting over a nameless male self-insert. JPchads can correct me if I'm wrong.
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>>2274765
She says kare in Japanese so it's a guy. The rest is people being paranoid.
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>>2274765
JP uses 彼. If it was meant to be ambiguous they would have stuck with something like あの人 or something. They also refer to him in the romance test, when talking about their '理想の男性' and mentioning that the test probably hit both their types for Shiho and Kirara and they were probably both thinking of the same guy. Sorry, it's a guy.
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>>2274781
Yeah, that's what I had read earlier in the thread, but I remember someone in this thread or another one asking how they translated it.
>>2274782
>They also refer to him in the romance test
Ah okay, I hadn't done that skit yet, but I did see them refer to him as "you know who" in a different conversation.
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How similar is this game to Diablo 2?
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Just unlocked Yuzu's ability Grape Wave. Why is it so OP, holy shit. It's the "skip the battles" button even on hard.
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>>2274481
>Sounds more like she's talking about Niina.
She very much is. Ruka isn't mentioned in the game in any way.
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Holy shit they actually put BR1 on 55% off. Who died at KT?
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>>2274970
I think she *might* be vaguely mention in one of the random fragments that appear in the oasis, but those are so vague I can't really say that one might be her.

>>2274980
They also had a solid discount a few months back. They probably think it might help sales for Second Light.
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>>2274970
I think is Shino.
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Why would Hiori mention Ruka? Do you mention your girlfriend when trying to get under another girl's skirt? It just wouldn't make logical sense. Same reason Mio doesn't mention Momo and Hinako doesn't mention Sarasa or the other girls.
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I'm five minutes into the game and so far the main character doesn't seem like a fundamentally broken human being the way Hinako did
Am I going to be proven wrong
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>>2275376
Cancel that I'm probably going to find out that she fucking died when she went to go pick up her cellphone and this is a Narnia situation
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Yuri jokes aside, I'm gonna finish the game tomorrow. May come back in a few months to NG+ and get my dumb extra 10 seconds of ending. Before I set the game on the shelf, the timeline of events is

Blue Reflection -> Blue Reflection Ray -> whatever the fuck happens in Blue Reflection Sun -> Blue Reflection Tie

If so, I can pretty much ignore Sun and wait for a 3rd game that will likely never come, correct?
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>>2275365
Because she was with her when everyone abandoned her, hell Ruka was the one who helped her sort her feelings twice even when she was acting like a little bitch.
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>>2275389
>Blue Reflection -> Blue Reflection Ray
Not sure about this, I think Mio got defeated first.
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>>2275410
I'm just coping with Ruka erasure

>>2275415
Yeah, you are correct.
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>>2275424
I'm still mad about it.
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>>2274782
.. the romance test pointed at Ao.
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>>2252874
>implying sexy women don't appeal to a broad audience
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>>2274311
>>2274552
>the 1 vs 1 system is really ultra garbage
My biggest issue besides losing moves the higher your gear, is how powerful 1v1 battles are. Even on the MUST DIE difficulty it just tears through bosses when you stagger them, and if by some miracle they're still alive when after you land the finisher, it won't be for long because you're gonna have a 40 hit combo built up when you come out. I'd like if it was even more isolated from the rest of the regular combat, in the sense that you're not actually whittling down their health, but their guard instead so you can perform the powerful special move which actually damages the enemy and adds to your combo count. On the other end, you'd could [always] make it so your character gets hurt doing it so there a greater risk/reward aspect when you trigger it on your own instead of just mostly reward. Either that or scrap it entirely and make the finishers work similar to the Ether Wave with a higher combo count and a requirement for the boss to be in the last 20% of health. Either way, eliminating the need to fight the boss once it starts was not the way the go.

>>2275663
That's the impression I got too.
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Isn't there a fucking mod to increase like tenfold the HP of enemies? This is just so boring even on the newest difficulty. Come on Gust.
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>>2276506
And lift the level cap. There's no reason to fight when you are level 50.
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>have multiple empty reserve slots
>Mio and Uta's reflector forms are technically modelled
>Citrus sisters have existing reflector forms
Even if you kept only one party member in the active team, there's still 3 empty slots. Did we get GUSTED?
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>>2277186
They were going to be for the other Ray characters but after Ray flopped they decided to scrap them.
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>>2276013
There's actually no reward for triggering it yourself. In fact, it's a bad idea.

The way to play this game is always the same:
Wait for boss to attack you, pray it's not 1vs1 as it wastes time and nothing else. If there are invincible adds, quickly knock them down with an attack. Once you got enough ether, you knock the boss down. Wait until it's up again. Knock the boss down with your gathered ether. Given how weak everything is once you hit a certain part of the game, you won't even get to the second knock down, but early on you can. The boss will never recover, nor do anything.
On the highest difficulty I recommend Hiori, but other characters probably work as well, especially Kokoro (slow, paralyze, ailments in general). The advantage of Hiori is just, that she can actually do mattering knockbacks given the ultra speed everything has. She also creates a weakness OP girl can abuse.. provided she isn't gear 5. But at that point you probably won anyway. Damage on gear 5 is stupidly high.

1 vs 1 just wastes time. Nothing else. The game is actually better before you unlock it. As sad as it is. Also as a side note. I was actually able to see 2 combo attacks in the DLC area. Somehow. Given how quickly everything dies, it was a miracle. The first boss failed though, because.. *drumroll*... it triggered a 1vs1. Of course.

>>2277186
It's probably just because of symmetry. It'd look weird to have one row with only one slot. And you kinda need more than 1 in case you wanna solo. Or formerly planned DLC characters that got scrapped.
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Finally beat it. Chapter 10 and final chapter were a slog. Really felt like they were just trying to extend the game a good 3-4 hours. Was definitely too easy, but the gameplay really was secondary to the school life sim. On the otherhand, the stealth stuff wasn't nearly as bad as people had made it seem. Maybe that's because I'm a long time MGSfag. Overall I liked it a lot of more than the first one.

Will dust off the game again once all the DLC drops and get my New Game+ Ao x Mio ending.
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>>2277186
I have a feeling that they wanted every character to be playable.
>>2277345
Why the hateboner against Ray?
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>>2277905
Because it's garbage that tosses out everything good about Blue Reflection.
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>>2277959
Can you explain? I just finished the first game and was deciding whether or not to watch Ray, since the reception seems pretty bad
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>>2277962
Not him, but the anime takes about 8-9 episodes to really get going and it's very different from the games. You'll either drop it before the end of the firat half or end up liking it.
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>>2277962
The writing is piss poor, and the entire atmosphere and whatnot people like about the games (including music) is gone.
It's just another bad magical girls show.
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>>2277962
It replaced the awesome music with generic shit, killed the great atmosphere, was overly dramatic and had badly written/dumb villains. "You do not even know how it feels to have these shit emotions or how she feels!!!!! I need to destroy them" (totally not projecting her own issues on someone she doesn't even remotely know.) There's a reason why it bombed. Everything that was good about Blue Reflection was entirely removed. I wouldn't even mind the retarded villains if they'd at least treated accordingly. But the verbal exchange is basically just "I think like this" vs "I think like that". Well, bad writing.
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>>2277404
That certainly sounds more efficient once you're powerful enough, I think it even crossed my mind at some point but I decided I didn't like having to wait for the monster to get back up.
I managed to see all the ether waves but I also handicapped myself for most of the game.

>>2277448
Glad you enjoyed it. I have some issues with some aspects of the gameplay, but overall I still love it. Uta and her dungeon are highlights for me. I felt like I was looking at a mirror of my younger self at times (though I wasn't nearly this cute).
>Mio
Nice. One of my favorites. That said, I don't think there's a bad girl in this game. Kirara isn't my type, for example but I still like her a lot.
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>>2233713
>2233713
>best are and music
>relatively polished gameplay
>battle "system"

so the best thing this game has going for it is the window dressing, another hackneyed battle system with a new name, and the fact that the gameplay isn't too bad?
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>>2278265
>>2278337
Thanks, that just sounds like shit. I was willing to give it a go even though the presentation suck ass, but if the writing/atmosphere can't even make up for it then it's just a waste of time. Would rather just get started with Second Light.
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>>2278807
I don't even mind the writing in Ray when taken on its own, but it feels pointless in the context of Second Light because the events of Ray are either acknowledged in very broad strokes or contradicted, and several important characters straight-up don't exist. It's pointless to watch it in preparation for SL.
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>>2278807
Don't listen to that retard, the show is ok, its got many flaws mostly around the edginess surrounding the main antagonist and the slow start but I'd still say it was most likely aoty
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Can Gust please stop using these fucking black bars? They're disgusting.
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I like the game so far but the fact that Yuzu is wandering around like a ghost and the fact that everyone except the energetic housewife/retard are former Reflectors makes me feel like I've missed out on some serious context here

Also was Hinako always so short
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>>2278905
>the show is ok,
Nope. it's trash.
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>>2278926
It's explained later. Also don't think lf this as a direct sequel. It's more like a crossover game.
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So in the end there was no reason for the 2005 emo reflektor outfits? wtf? This just strengthens my theory that some higher-up was trying to hide the mahou shoujo aspect to appeal to normies.
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>>2279049
Ao's looks like a shinigami because she's a fan of a Death Note knock-off. I guess the others were modeled to be consistent with hers.
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>>2279053
Shiho and Rena were reflectors before Ao, their looks could have changed after Ao arrived but there's no mention of it.
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so Rei took place after the world reset right?
doesn't that make the most sense since Ruka didn't exist in Hiori's mind at all
or Hiori is more of a bitch than we assume
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>>2279049
Ao's outfit and weapon makes sense because she's a chuuni fuck deep down. I think it's neat that they incorporated the skirt patterns into the outfit but it also looks like the outfits were once lewder and someone patched them over with curtaind
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>>2278337
I remember this pasta on /a/ and /v/ you didn't watch the show.
>>2279153
Hiori has always been a cunt who only cares about her onee-chan, even in the original world she was Ruka's roommate and didn't care about her.
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>>2279294
it still makes sense that rei is after tai since I don't remember there being an ash problem
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>>2279294
>disregard actual criticism of that trash show
That's how you can tell even the people that say they like the anime know it's garbage.
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>>2279300
I'm not sure if Mio's backstory took place before Blue reflection, but the main story took place during the ash, the ash was there in the very first episode.
>>2279301
What actual criticism? It's full of common places like the music also, who said
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You do not even know how it feels to have these shit emotions or how she feels
Because I don't remember it.
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>>2279314
Forgot to quote
>You do not even know how it feels to have these shit emotions or how she feels
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>>2279300
Kokoro when she was still just a Reflector candidate is also in the anime.
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>>2279153
>>2279300
Ash shows up in the final episode of Ray. Mio and Momo were reflectors before BR then Ray happens after BR. That was officially confirmed. Sun takes place between Ray and Tie. But more importantly, all of these were developed as independent projects not meant to be one coherrent narrative.
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>>2279386
Tie is pretty coherent with Ray but both Ray and Tie aren't with BR since it was an stand alone project.
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>>2279406
Coherrent in the sense that they're all direct continuations. They're not reliant on any other pieces in their narrative to he enjoyed. They're purposely not going to get bogged down in Ray or Sun's story line because all 3 are independent works. Hiori and Mio being at odds is treated as an after thought in a TL level up when it was a centeal point in the anime. But if you care, go watch the anime, because Tie is ultimately an ad for all 3 other projects.
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>>2279314
That only proves YOU didn't watch it. Though I don't blame you for avoiding that trash.
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>>2279434
>Hiori and Mio being at odds is treated as an after thought in a TL level up when it was a centeal point in the anime.
Yeah but Tie is a sequel, it even explained what happened after the events of ray.
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>>2280272
Ao is fat.
Why is looking at Hiori's panties so fucking hard? Both her school uniform and reflector outfit have long skirt.
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I haven't finished the game yet but is there a particular reason why most of Ao's interactions with the rest of the cast are standard sort of homo friendship forever scenarios while the moment Hiori and Mio join up Ao can't help but spill lesbian spaghetti on every date? She doesn't drool as openly over anyone except Hinako, not even the character whose big revelation was "I'm fucking gay:
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>>2280337
>the moment Hiori and Mio join up Ao can't help but spill lesbian spaghetti on every date?
Most likely a different writer was working on them.
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>>2280516
Come on anon, she just admire her.
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>>2280272
These sequences are comedic at this point. Remember when in the last dungeon the characters throw you a hundred-plus feet in the air at several points but then the game still makes you hit that switch to bridge that 5 feet gap two minutes later.
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>>2280581
I'm still mad we didn't get best Uta and made Hiori a genki retard.
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>>2280581
I like when all the girls,push the wall.

>>2280593
>Uta
Yeah, I wanted to see more of the schizo persona.
>Hiori
To be fair, that wasn't very far off. By Tie, Hiori would have resolved her mommy and sister issues and would just be fucking around like in the sol segements from Ray.
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>>2280824
I get what you said but she was never that cheerful, I always thought she was a sad girl trying to put a smile.
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Keep in mind that the only other Blue Reflection media I have consumed is the first game before responding.

Yuki is fucking dead, isn't she
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>>2281030
yes she is
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>>2280875
Only Ruka gets to see that side of her.

>>2281030
Yes.
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>>2281033
Who?
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I'm playing through the first game and I have a few questions I'm having a hard time figuring out.

Do stat ups stack or overwrite? Such as if I cast one that raises attack, and then cast one that significantly raises attack, will it be overwritten as significantly raised or was that a waste of a turn? I also have reinforce and defense+3 on one skill.

What does luck do? Is it only for critical rate?

Can I just keep going home indefinitely to level up bonds? Should have I been doing that the whole game?
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>>2281047
>Do stat ups stack or overwrite?
They overwrite and do not stack.
>What does luck do?
Pretty sure it's for accuracy too. At least when I had an enemy decrease my luck, it made me miss a lot more often.
>Can I just keep going home indefinitely to level up bonds? Should have I been doing that the whole game?
Yes. You have until chapter 10's free time at least and I'm pretty sure some bond scenes don't unlock until chapter 8. So don't drive yourself crazy by trying to grind them out in 1-2 chapters, it's fucking boring.
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>>2281063
>implying Ao being a grabby pervert isn't entertaining
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>>2281065
Ao's amazing, but anon was talking about Hinako taking girls on dates.
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>>2281092
Oh yeah Hinako's too chaste and also miserable
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>>2281126
I'm only on chapter 5 of Second Light, if I pick Hinako by the end, will I cure her chastity problem?
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>>2281133
I think that's a crime, cripples can't consent
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>>2281133
Sadly no explict gay for Ao
but
Beat NG+ and put your goggles on
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>>2281133
I hope so, she has the best tits in the series it would be a waste if nobody grabs them.
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Gothic 2 Night of The Raven is better
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>Shiho cares more about MC-kun from the phone game than Ao the whole game
Let's see his design already, where's the Sun info
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>>2281545
Since he doesn't have a name I'm sure he is going to be faceless.
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Have we gotten anything on the Summer Night DLC? It dropped this past week on the 25th for JP.
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>>2281545
(You)
though I think his role is erased from existence because of the world reset
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