>build her like an indestructible juggernault>enemies just ignore her and beeline for my weaker unitsHow do i use tanks in this game?
>>1912961Send her in first, genius
Would there be anyway to unbook Linzi>>1912961Have her charge forward first.
Can a Paladin MC with heavy shield replace Valerie as the party's frontline fighter? I think he woud bring more utility despite not being as tanky.Also, what the fuck Harrim
>>1913095Sure, just take relevant feats and play as Hospitaler.
>>1912961By sending her in first, using CCs, summons and chokepoints to manipulate enemy movement and realize that your goal is to hinder/distract enemies, particularly dangerous ones for a round or two so your team can start mowing them down, instead of just having one character drawing aggro and throwing him heals, you MMO poisoned nigger
>>1913095he be a climby, always depressed dwarf.
is there any reason not to tell both hellknights and that other fag to fuck off from my kingdom and to never think about them ever again?
>>1912961You have to send her in first well ahead of everyone else. Then you follow up with your off tank. then everyone else moves in.
How is necromancy in this game?Can i build a DeathKnight that summons skeletons and drains the life out of his enemies?
>>1913203you can't, best you can do is to kill all of them at the end of the quest, but they will keep being a nuisance until then.
>>1913222>Can i build a DeathKnight that summons skeletons and drains the life out of his enemies?Check the Wrath of the Righteous threads for this kind of stuff, it quite literally has a Lich path. Kingmaker is a lot more limited in regards to necromancy, though if I'm not mistaken, one of the kingdom options has you authorize the use of undead for menial tasks such as farming.
>>1913222you can try eldritch scion with undead bloodline
>>1913279Not him, but few days ago I dl'd WotR for that very reason, turns out the game is buggy as hell I couldn't even move past the first attack at the tavern.
>>1913289>turns out the game is buggy as hell>Owlcat game>Busted, buggy launchBros, we're going home.
>>1913289>Not him, but few days ago I dl'd WotR for that very reason, turns out the game is buggy as hell I couldn't even move past the first attack at the tavern.Yeah, that one beta is extremely buggy. In old Owlcat tradition, they added bugs instead of fixing them. They literally patched it 15 minutes ago
>>1913095>heavy shieldGive him a glaive or bardiche for that sweet, sweet AoO range.
>>1913222>DeathknightNo.Just a full caster who spams a few spells
> Using female companionsFunny the same creepy /v/irgins who cry about sjws love strong empowered dykes in games.
>>1913372Wrong board friend, this is /vrpg/.
>>1913095>No mercsI cringed a little bit
>mfw the nymph ambush with a rogue that cant use scrolls, cant pass the athetics check to run away and isnt strong enough to fight his way outWelp, think i just fucking softlocked my game
>>1913409There is always an autosave when you enter an area.
>>1913203I think the OC gives you a bunch of money and he shows up to help you later but that's it. Quest wouldn't be so bad if it wasn't trying to hard to make the Hellknights so unreasonable and as if Darven was in the right.
>game still have bugs
>>1913372I am genuinely befuddled as to why this faggot hasn't been rangebanned from every vidya board
>>1913461>literally teleport behind you>I see the knight bitch mistreating my subjects right before the doors of my throne room>game ignores me when I told the guards to seize her>not so badlinzi tried very hard to convince me to show up in some battle or something, I told her I wanted nothing to do with either of them and then the game marked a failed quest
>>1913372do you honestly get something out of the handful of (you)s you gather by posting this every day?
>>1912961Send her first and use the environment. Also give her the heart of ira. You can literally put her obstructing the door in most dungeons so that not every enemy is able to attack her at the same time and with the heart of ira she`ll be hurting even those obstructed by the other enemies. You also put that slippery spell (can`t remember the name) right behind her so anyone that is able to pass her slips. You support her with ranged attacks (magic, bombs, arrows) and keep your melee attacker ready to defend those weaker units. If you have a healer like say that fucker Tristian you keep using him to heal Valerie if needed. Unless you break formation you should be fine with this setup for most fights. Some fights may require to act more quickly to deal with casters and status effects or to adapt this strategy for different environments like corridors or places where the highground gives a distinct advantage. Having teleport is a very good idea for versatility.
>literally the entirety of Chapter 4
>>1913442I'll use a merc everytime over Octavia, bitch can rot in the capital with her green nig bf
>>1913442>not making an entire party of mercs
I cant decide on a build for the MC.I have Val, Jubilost, Ekun, Linzi and Harrim in the party.At first i was going to make him a melee DPS to support Valerie, but every melee class i tried so far that doesnt spec for full tank melts as soon as they get focused by something.
>Convince Octavia to break up with Reg>Break up with her immediately after>Finish game with goat twins in my personal haremBest route coming through
>>1913294What is the current state of wotr?
>>1913668Shield basher ranger/slayer.You can do shield basher build with fighter, crusader and even paladin, but you cheat requirements and can add sneak dice and other good shit with the first two choices
>cant deal damage or tank as well as a fighter>cant heal as well as a clericWhats so great about paladins anyway?
>>1913699They do both solidly, possibly freeing space for players who hate Val or Tristian
>>1913699You take them with you against evil enemies and they will wreck their shit, and later on, also let you wreck their shit.Having status condition heals with extremely little resource cost and free auras that protect from shit like fear is a bonus
>>1913699I find paladins to make better archers than melee. Holy smite can be really fucking good.
> season of bloom> go to options, turn bloom off
>>191380330 int rulerHow do we stop him
>>1913442I pretty much never use mercs in crpgs, but I make an exception with Kingmaker. Game is good, but the writing and companions especially are unbearably bad. You lose nothing by playing without them and you'll have more fun, when you design the whole party.
Pathfinder game with online multiplayer when
>constantly thinking about playing kingmaker>can't even bring myself to turn it onI think I might have even lower INT than Valerie
>>1913945You're just addicted to shitposting on 4chan.
About to start the varnhold lot dlc, any tips? Party comp?
>>1914079story mode it
>>1912961UOOOOOOOH IM DISPLOOMING!!!
>>1914079One Arcane caster support guy (bard, alchemist , wizard, sorcerer), one divine (cleric, inquisitor) and one melee guy whose AC and/or saves are not garbage. 4th can be anything.
>>1914079You'll want an arcane caster, divine caster and someone who can lockpick very badly, 4th can be anything but you presumably want someone who can survive a hit
>>1914079I can't remember when you get the baller falcata and it may be 30 seconds before the ending, but you get a baller falcata
>>1914262>wasting feats on Exotic Weapon Proficiency
what is the name of the track that plays when you are just walking around the other world?
What's so good about falcatas anyway? Technically it's a longsword with a better crit multiplier. That's it? If you want to make a crit build it is better to go for better crit range, no?
>>1914404You can't get improved crits as a feat until midgame.
>>1914404Lion's Claw falcata from Varnhold's Lot has 18-20 crit range
>>191440425% chance of triple damagewhen the only source of entertainment after stag lord is big number
>>1913332How is that possible?
>>1913699>whats so great about paladins anywayWhat's that? Fear? Finger of death? Energy drain? FUCK YOU HERE'S HOLY SMITE
>>1913889>he doesn't use Nok-Nok
>>1913699>cant deal damage or tank as well as a fighterthey can cause far more dps to be dealt to evil creatures than a fighter couldthey can tank spells and ccs far better than a fighter can>cant heal as well as a clerichospitalier can heal almost as well as a cleric
I'm surprised paladins don't get a holy avenger in kingmaker, the pathfinder version seems pretty shitty compared to older editions and to the general power level of kingmaker
>>1914857this is pretty close
>>1914842This is basically the only D&D videogame I can think of where undead or evil outsiders aren't the vast majority of lategame enemies (at least for good characters), you can usually bet that you'll always get full use of smite and similar abilities.
>>1913678God that's hot please tell me there is a similar dialogue option but with the twins instead of Valerie
>>1913279>one of the kingdom options has you authorize the use of undead for menial tasks such as farming.but not really... it's just a card which says that in description, but otherwise all it actually does is add a number to some kingdom stat and that's it
>>1915031Twins barely have any dialogue to begin with.
>>1915031The twins barely have dialogue, however Kanerah constantly shits on Tristian/Sarenrae and it never fails to be entertaining
>>1915080I remember getting a problem card from some other country being pissed about it later at least. I think Tsanna did something horrible to them.
When is WotR coming out? Should been this month, no?
Man, this game this good but goddammit some things are pantsu on head retarded.>for some reason you need to be lawful to tell Kensten he's overthinking moron that is not thinking straight >Lebeda attacks you with a few dudes after you came back from the depths of hell where you slayed an ancient lich >endings where companions will not die at the house requires you to be your usual goody two shoes, there's not even pragmatic option>noone tells you about teleportation circles and when get them you already have most artisans quests done Still will probably replay though.
>>1912961>game declares her to be beautiful>her portrait is uglyWhy do they do this?
>>1915384Cosmic Joke by Shelyn.It's a game about pranking after all
What the fuck is AT meant to do against bosses that are immune to all their rays? Sneak attack hellfire ray or scorching ray is nice but seeing half of the rays fail to get past spell resistance and the other half do 0 damage makes me realize I'm hauling dead weightBut maybe that's just the spawn of Rovagug specifically. I could relegate her to mook clear with aoe spells I suppose
>>1915373I think if you just complete the companion quests in any way they'll live at the house. I know Ekundayo's darker ending to his quest still keeps him alive at the hateot, either Nok-Nok ending, Amiri's semi-bad ending) etc. Exception is Tristrian-Jaethal stuff, but only a christlike PC wouldn't at least exile Tristrian so trying to have it both ways is your fault.
>>1915398plan a: use grandmaster rodplan shit: surprise attack lets her sneak attack with shit that penetrates spell resist like obsidian flow I guess, or cast snowballs, they penetrate spell resist
>>1915414*note I have always shit on rovagug with magus dimension strike and holy bombs so I can only assume something like grandmaster rod hellfire rays works well, I don't think I kept a save to play with it
>>1915342You likely won't play on release because while it wasn't great, it wasn't unplayable like Kingmaker at launch and was in a better shape. The latest beta they somehow made it worse.
>>1915411I wish the options with bringing Tristian back could let you make it clear you only keep him around so he can redeem himself or he's useful to the party, but any friendship or relationship you had with him is effectively dead and if not for that you'd have thrown him out.
>>1915411Also another thing. This is my supposed "lawful evil" character but this game have way too much moments where you either choose between being neutral or being an retarded asshole.
>>1912961I haven't played the game in quite some time. But isn't there a perk that provides multiple attacks of opportunity? It enables her to stop them in their tracks and prevents them from running past her.
>>1913442Just how fucking new are you? The whole point of DnD is that you create your own characters and stories and PF:KM is precisely supposed to be a singleplayer DnD campaign experience.I despise the fact idiots like you share a board with me.
Anyone know how much gold you need to buy back the varnhold items? And is there a way to make money fast? I want to hire more mercs but they are insanely expensive. I want to try a proper monk as all i ever see are single monk dips and druid or freebooter which look neat.
>>1915654Yeah, it's a issue. Enough of one that they added in a scroll anyone can use that resets your alignment. I was lawful good but from the choices got pushed into neutral good. Wrath they seem to be trying to combat it by instead of a option being neutral good, Chaotic Neutral or lawful evil for instance, it's just good, neutral or evil/lawful, neutral or chaotic.
>>1913289>wotr release in septemberna bro, thats the post-launch beta being released in september, the real playable game will be release somewhere around january/february of next year
>>1915705False? Everywhere I've read is September as regular full release.
Which one /vrpg/?
>>1915710sweet summer childyes you will be able to play a beta version of the game, it will be a buggy mess though so you might aswell wait for a couple of patches if you want a genuine experience
>>1915712unironic CG in real life
>>1915724you havent played Games in the last 10 years? literally 0 games released after 2010 doesnt requier a day one patch and several more later on to be a "full game"its nothing against Owlcat specifically but if youre looking for an exception to the rule WotR wont be it
>>1915732I asked you about the beta claim, anon.
>>1915732You don't know what beta means even when you see one in the mirror every day. It's a technical term. Buggy full release is still a full release.
>>1915745>You don't know what beta means even when you see one in the mirror every day.Savage.
>>1915724A functioning male brain
>>1915710Kingmaker was a mess when it launched. Wrath wasn't great but nowhere near as bad as launch Kingmaker for a bit but the latest beta launch is a trainwreck.
>>1915734>>1915745im doing a funny bit when i say "post-launch beta" periodofcourse its not technically a beta but just because the patch is 1.0.0+ doesnt mean it wont be a buggy mess... just like a beta, and Owlcat will rely on players (post-launch betatesters) for feedback to patch the game
>>1915764>I was merely pretending to be retarded
>>1912961Why the fuck is the stag lord bandit related to Oleg's wife fully voiced?
>>1915909Aren't all the characters who can possibly help you later voiced?
>>1915694Hire mercs at level 1 (you don't need to skip XP, just don't levelup your character). There's also a bug that when you hire them at level 1, the dialogue checks if you have 500gp, but then actually takes a lot less (like <100). I don't know if they fixed that in the current version, I also don't know if it always works, but it is always present in my 2.1.5d. You also can use Bag of Tricks to adjust merc price multiplier, or even give them a 25 point buy option.tl;dr - If you want a custom party, just make it, it's your game.
>>1915712I played LE but during this option I just had to pick NE, it sounds so fucking based
Check current events in Kingdom tab>"A group of Hellknights has appeared in the capital. Their leader requests an audience with the king."It had to come around at some point I guess. Is helping Darven really worth it or should I just stab the cunt?>>1915909I think the same voice actor is the iconic paladin lady in Wrath.
>>1914857Kingmaker is CN: The Game, a Holy Avenger is pointless
>>1915925Just go with the flow until you can kill everyone
>>1915925Help him until he coughs up the cash THEN kill him
>>1915768>Autist calls people retarded because he can't pick up on obvious irony
>>1915931>>1915955Is there any benefit to keeping him around later? No unique items or anything?
>>1915712Honor and Law is fine but a bit generic. I like "The oath is sacred" and "The King's wills the way".
>>1915992I don't know if you can actually cut yourself off from it, but the town with Darven in it at the end of the questline spawns a high end merchant. Nothing earthshattering but it's got +6 to two stats belts, a +6 all stats headpiece, and a couple metamagic rods.
>>1915714>>1915727You don't need mercy to begin with if you follow the fucking law.
>>1915712The Law and only the Law.
what's the most underrated weapon?
Does bag of tricks disable achievments?
>>1916006Heavy Maces. There are a bunch of good ones and everyone knows that, but nobody ever talks about making a build around that.
>>1916011cheevos is the only reason I play unfair desu
>>1916023What alignment is this?
>>1916006The flail Tyrant has by far the best on hit effect in the game and you get it at the same time as Vindicator and Bloodhound (i.e. you have the option of getting them in Act 2 if you don't mind getting exploity).
>>1916038>no plan>breaks law>literally begging for mercy after knowingly breaking the lawChaoticfags, everyone
>check shortspear>x2/20>check trident>x2/20>check kama>x2/20what the fuck, why are they so shitI guess my idea of a spear saint can go fuck itself
>>1915992What the other anon said and he comes to your aid in the end. He also apparently stays friends with you, and when he shows up he usually ends up fucking a guard or servant. Bite the bullet anon. Darven is love.
>>1916088the only game to ever get the shield and spear mechanic and aesthetic right was tyrannyeverywhere else its all sword and board shit
>>1916088Use a polearm, anon.
who else here doesn't give a single flying FIG
> Alkaline Mace > This +2 corrosive heavy mace allows its wielder to throw an acid bomb three times per day.What the actual fuck.
>>1916390What you want are the alkali gloves: 1d6 acid damage to all melee attacksIt adds up quickly
>>1916408It's not the question of what I want or do not want, it's the question who and how put a bottles-with-acid-making micro-plant powered by nanomachines into a medieval weapon.
>>1916419There is a nanomachines (well, mini machines) storyteller tale and the "Gear" item. I was like oh shit we doing Gygax shit? Might and Magic shit?
>>1912961tanks don't exist in pathfinder. "tanks" are just harder to kill dps. They don't have any abilities that would make enemy target them over squishy mages.
>>1915712all lawful sound good. the rest are cringe for various reasons
>>1915712Chaotic evil, of course.
>>1916618Imbecile. Tank doesn't and never has required aggro system. Damage absorbion characters aka tanks do exist and by positioning your characters appropriately (and using certain skills that lead enemy to your tank) enemies will target them.
>>1915712>(Neutral Evil) "The King is wills the way."Am I retarded, or does this make no sense?
>>1915712pure neutral and any of the lawful
>>1916877I assume it is a typo and means the king's will is the way
>>1916967Or "The King wills the way."But they couldn't pick up the split and missed the pins entirely
>>1917217How many of you would kill a party member because it makes no sense to recruit them or keep them around or try and come up with a reasoning for having them around? like say the elf assassin in Dragon Age, he says the other assassin's would kill him for failing, but you can't really trust that when he's at your mercy and would likely say anything to try and worm his way out of it. Or why a Lawful Good Character would keep Jaethal around or that one party member in Wrath?
>>1917258>like say the elf assassin in Dragon AgeThat one was pretty easy because you can just rationalize it that you're drafting him into fighting the apocalypse.
>>1917217Where's the option "fuck both of you?"All these words are the same two choices repeated several times.I support Jaethal personally, but if you make a dialogue with all choices, make it with ALL choices ffs.
>Level 18>STILL have no idea what the fuck to do to make Kalikke usefulHow do I stop being a brainlet
>>1916023>(Lawful Good) Guards! Arrest this man!
>>1917802you do have celerity on her right?
>>1917802You chose earth as her level 8 element right? Bowling infusion + trip feats + gather power low + mud deadly earth. Get her to 5ish burn after you rest so she can get the free +6 con. Every single fight, deadly earth. If anything lives through the first round put a wall or cloud over it too. Do this for 15 minutes to see how overpowered it is then take her out of the party and never use her again.
>>1917802Have you tried sticking it up her pooper for motivation?
Why the fuck do I get some light absorbed into me after defeating an enemy?
>>1918031You're the highlander now.
>>1918031It means something you just killed progressed the Farrniras quest.
>>1912961Is it safe to do curses early game? My advisor is free desu
>>1913699The only reason Paladins aren't king of damage is because most enemies in the game are neutral.
>>1917822Skin is lawful good though.
>>1918190go for itif I remember correctly it takes about 2 solid years to do all the curse research, although it's possible to overlap some of it by having your divine and arcane advisors working on different curses at the same time. I think you have like 3 years after Armag before the endgame starts and you can survive that with a maxed out kingdom for probably longer than you'd ever need even if you made tons of optimization mistakes.
I know monster tactician works well with Aeon but what about Sacred Huntsmaster?
>>1918283Is there a way to reduce how long it takes to research them? I know you can eventually get a project to both reduce the length of time it takes to rank up a stat by a week instead of 2, and same with claiming new regions later.>>1918285Shit wrong thread.
Blessing of the faithful is so good. finally a reason to use early tristian over harrim
>>1918291>reduce how longnope
>>1918291>Is there a way to reduce how long it takes to research them?yes, it's called Kingdom Resolution mod
>>1918302I don't mind the kingdom events themselves, just having to waste so much time on these curses for the secret ending. All I'd want that mod for is to do the curses and get rid of them so I can do other shit. Getting the project to reduce claiming regions and ranking up stats to a week would be fine for me.
>>1918327Install and uninstall the mod after you deal with the curses.
That mouthbreether valerie should have an even lower intelligence and a lower wisdom as well. Everything that comes out of her mouth is just pure retardation
>>1918387>Entire questline is just her realising "people can have opinions different to me and that's okay."
>>1918424It's more than what the people around here have
Your only options for councilor are:>a faggot that betrays you and is responsible for the death of countless civilians>an old lady who is clearly a spy and spends the entire game trying to manipulate you>the priestess of a pagan cult who worships a god that hates humans>their kindgdom stat is "loyalty"What the fuck
>>1918581You forgot LG Orc mutt.
>>1918581But Tristian felt really bad about it though.>>1918582I think he can only be a general, and Reg and Amiri are better for that anyway.
>>1918581All three of them are pretty good at their jobs, too. It's loyalty of the populace, not the councilor's loyalty towards you.
>>1918581it's loyalty of the populace. Tristian promotes it through socialism, Shandra - through placating the upper classes, and Tsanna through selective oppression. Tsanna compares her methods to herding animals, but it's as effective as the other two.
>>1918637So they're all evil?
>>1918581>be goodish character>faggot beteays me>have to forgive him or I will be councilorless for the rest of tge game
>>1918659Tristian fails at his job because he's TOO benevolent. He ends up placating the people so much that they grow powerful enough to demand separating from the kingdom to become independant. Shandra is just Surtova's lapdog and only works in their interest not yours. Tsanna is fucking crazy and during the final chapter she completely loses it but she's unironically the best of the three.
>>1918589>Reg and Amiri>two chaotic retards>better for a position that requires strategic thinkingno
>>1918705They are both surprisingly solid choice. Coctavia on the other hand...
>>1918706>h that they grow powerful enough to demand separating from the kingdom to become independant. Shandra is just Surtova's lapdog and only works in their interest not yours. Tsanna is fucking crazy and during the final chapter she completely loses it but she's unironically the best of the three.let's just agree that out of all the companions ekun is the only one that's half-competent at what he does both as a warden and as a spymaster. the rest are retards
This game stops being fun midway through and becomes outright annoying at Nyrissa's house/final battle area.
>>1918722>he didn't take blind fightngmi
>>1918722House at the edge of Fun is pretty much only weak spot of the game. Gas the fey.
>that one area with the destroyed village surrounded by fey>think there's some tragic backstory>turns out some fey queen popped up one day and used her magic to cuck some guy and steal his bride>this results in a chain of events that kills everyone>game expects me to feel badlmao I kill every single Fey I come across in the game when I can, even the "harmless" ones. FUCK FEY.
>>1918722Why? I don't remember there being anything wrong with that section at all.I think there might have been a section right after you're forced into solo that I had to fight a mob of ghosts that I was weak against but I found a way to win anyways and had no further problems.
FUCK FEY, FUCK TROLLS AND FUCK CHAOSNIGGERS
>>1918758The only real problem with the funhouse is that it is way too long for its monotonous encounter design, especially when it requires you to go through the same layout in two different timelines and unless you know exactly what you're doing beforehand you will waste a lot of time backtracking.
>>1918708>let's just agree that out of all the companions ekun is the only one that's half-competent at what he does both as a warden and as a spymaster.Ekkun is a boring nigger and I never use him for anything so I wouldn't know.
>>1918754While you shouldn't feel bad for the fey, that isn't what happened.>Fey and human "kingdom" exist, so salad comes to fuck with it.>It just so happens that she doesn't really need to do anything because the pussy father doesn't want to say no to the fey and lies to both the daughter and the husband and fucking things up before she even got there>She just uses the husband as a nail in the coffinIf the father wasn't a bitch, then the husband wouldn't have tried to curse the queen and there wouldn't have been enough hate in the area from everyone involved to make it work in the first place.
>>1918754>FUCK FEYThis but literally
>>1918754>humans fuck themselves over by being retarded>>"it's all the fey's fault!""Like clockwork.
>>1918754You can actually loot the grave of the dumb bitch too. It causes some fey to get butthurt at you and they attack you in a world map encounter.>>1918796How is it the humans fault? The fey is the one who came there and decided to NTR a local couple about to get married.
>>1918786Wasn't it just a village? Did I miss something that confirmed it was salad who was responsible. I liked the idea of surprise lesbians and the chaos that comes after.
I'd just like to say Lantern King literally did nothing wrong. Nyrissa got what she deserved.
>>1918807t. Horned Hunter
>>1918804It was a village that intermingled with fey who had kings/queens. The "kingdom" clause is loose as fuck, so salad can destroy anything she deems a "kingdom" and it will count.>Did I miss something that confirmed it was salad who was responsible.If you actually get the whole story instead of believing lies like this idiot >>1918803, the husband says that he was told of the curse by someone who just pop up one day, and the witch mentions that there is no way the curse would've worked without some outside means.
>>1918747>>1918758There are multiple reasons. First, while the game has pretty well-designed and fun dungeons to this point, Nyrissa's home is just a burdensome puzzle house with cutscenes everywhere. I don't like dungeons that are all about gimmicks, like toying around with lanterns or finding all mirrors or anything like that. The dungeon takes a while because trash mobs are challenging and everything that is not fighting is not fun. It's also at this point in the game when the game starts requiring you to have certain skills and feats or you'll struggle harder than others. The game has plenty bad game design choices and this is one of them. Trash mobs constantly cause permanent conditions.It's not about difficulty, it's about how troublesome and unfun the game feels to play. The final battle area is not even a dungeon, it's just a linear map where you fight the same annoying trash mobs over and over again until you reach the top.>>1918746I did. And this is my second playthrough.
>>1918803>>1918804the fey had their 'kingdom' alongside the humans for a long time, the storyteller can tell you about their origins https://pathfinderkingmaker.fandom.com/wiki/Cypress_Queen%27s_Paraphernalia
>>1918803It wasn't as if the fey came out of nowhere and seduced the girl as a joke, she fell in love with the dryad of her own free will and the husband just couldn't accept it. She even broke off the engagement.>>1918804You can work it out for yourself, but if you ask the witch she straight-up tells you that cursing a dryad queen into a monster takes seriously powerful magic, a lot more than a couple of random villagers could use even unwittingly. If you listen to the undead fiance's story he'll tell you that he was told about the curse by someone who just appeared one day.
>>1918705War leaders need not only strategic thinking, but out of the box thinking, ability to take risks and capitalizing on opportunities.Lawful takes of 'I am going to play by the rules' is the worst mindset for winning wars.Them both being kind of opposed to using their brains is a problem. Plus Amiri is a girl and the other one is gay - both of them shouldn't be generals because one shouldn't assign that kind of responsibility to mentally unstable people
>>1918822Lawfulness doesn't exclude out of the box thinking or the ability to take risks and capitalizing on opportunities. Lawfulness above all represents order. If a chaotic general wins, it's because of luck or other advantages. Thinking chaotic mindset would be better than lawful mindset for winning wars is absolute lunacy.
>all these disgusting f*y supporters
>>1918840Not a fey supporter. Just don't like pathetic lies being shited out of a mouth of a bitch.
>>1918807>mfw Lantern King lawfully punished Nyrissa>lawfully punished>lawfully>Lantern KingIf he was a true trickster he would let her go without punishment
>make Amiri a Saced Huntsman>her pet bear is actually better than her in combat and its the only reason she's still in the party
>>1918847>he thinks that the lantern king wasn't gonna pull the rug from under salad by declaring that some village in the bumfuck nowhere doesn't count as a kingdomget tricked, retard
>>1918812>>1918815>>1918819I see. Missed the village kingdom connection so discarded all the things pointing towards her. Didn't help that I'm outright shit at finding anything for the storyteller. Should really use a guide for them but too much effort.
>>1918705Doesn't Reg get mages in the army and Amiri clerics? I was surprised that when the option to ban or make magic drugs mandatory for the army she encourages the middle ground of not encouraging it but not banning it, I expected her to think it's a crutch.
>>1918807Shut up Lantern King, you no longer exist
>>1918807He causes the trolls and vordakai. He's a nigger as well.
How the fuck do I get teleportation circles as a building? I'm arcane rank 2, have mage tower in capital. I've read around and people keep saying you can build teleportation circles in villages also. Is that false? Do I have to upgrade my villages to towns and build mage tower there, so I can use teleportation circles? How do I get the teleportation circle building seperate from mage tower?
>>1918918Vordakai was going to wake up eventually regardless. If any thing Lantern King did us a favor by waking him up early since it left Vordakai weak as fuck.
>>1918807I fucked the salad and tricked that cunt.
>>1918924>Bro he set a evil lich to fuck up everything for me and my neighbor but it's okay broLantern King apologists are as mentally ill as Nyrissafags.
>>1918936just a leetle treekster prank my friendwe're all neutral here
>>1918943Fuck Tricksters and fuck Fey.
>>1918961ThisFuck lantern niggerFuck feyFuck swapsFuck forestsFuck savagesAND GAS the chaoticucks ALIGMENT WAR NOW PRAISE ASMODEUS (and Abadar)
>>1913026If he can't read the loading screens, you shouldn't help him. That said you can get short of fucked during seasons of bloom when they start spawning Doomspiders all around you.
>>1914477Why not just build 1 char as a fear build and give everyone else a way to make use of all the attacks of opportunity you're getting? What everything get gibbed in the first 1-2seconds of the fight.
I sided with the Kobolds against the Mites because they're sexier
>>1919094Yeah, no shit. Kobolds are just lizard tribals, but mites are fey abominations that make goblins look like sex symbols.
>>1919030>PRAISE ASMODEUScringeThere is no God but Erastil, and Jhod is his messenger.
>>1919094based. Kobolds a cute, mites are fey and get the gas chamber
what are the possible romance outcomes for the goats? Can I keep fucking them both separately?
Do blur and displacement stack? By that I mean if the enemy bypasses displacement can he still miss due to blur?
>>1918754The only innocent was the ntr'd man, he got fucked over hard. When he regains his memories, he'll even beg you to save his would-be father-in-law rather than end his own curse. My only wish is that I could have done more than loot the daughter's corpse.
>>1918754The dad was the biggest fuck up there. The guy was understandable angry at being cucked, and the fey and human dyke just fell for each other.
>>1919194Reject Erastil, serve mommy Andoletta.
>>1919535>and the fey and human dyke just fell for each other.the human dyke was the worst piece of shit there.>i'll just condemn my family to eternal damnation because i really want to munch on that moss carpetfuck that cunt
>>1918922>>1918925he said he was arcane IIi dont know exactly what unlocks them either, i just notice that you can build them at some point
>>1919565So it was pretty much the human Duke and her dad?
>>1915682>supposed to be a singleplayer DnD campaign experience>makes multiple pcDo you have an autism?
>>1919094Honestly would like to replace all the human subjects in the kingdom with Kobolds. fat chance they would ever try and rebel (successfully) and even better if you have dragon bloodline/can use dragonkind spell.
>>1919604I was abit disapointed there was basically no follow up for chosing sides in Sycamore, in my first playthrough I sided with the mites and I dont remember there was anything.Like they give you these relics to hold on to, and there is like "cya later for the next part" hints ingame. I guess they just ran out of time?
>>1919549>serve mommy>serving womendilate cuck-simp
>>1919615Kobold Quarters building is all i know about being unlocked from it. I agree i liked the little guys and wanted more.
>>1919637She's a granny though.
>>1919565Anon, a human just saying 'fuck everything' is not enough to make such curses take root
>>1919615Whichever party is alive (or both) gives you a +5 belt/circlet at the very, very final sequences before lantern boy
>>1919669that's not what I was saying, retard
>>1919565>>i'll just condemn my family to eternal damnation because i really want to munch on that moss carpetAnd that's not what happened. The curse forced the husband into undeath, and since the father's name was on the coins too, he was forced as well.
>>1919710His daughter put that name on one of the coins because of a dream. She seemed easily tricked to me.
>>1919720The husband tells you he wrote all the names on the coins and threw them down the well. The daughter learned of the curse but did nothing with the coins. This isn't a black and white quest, everyone is fucked in the head, but the husband had the biggest role in it. That's why he tells you to set the father free after you figure everything out.
>>1919747That's not what the letter to the Fey Queen says. There were two coins with the father's name, the daughter wrote one of them because of a Dream from You Know Who.
>>1918302Can this mod be safely installed then uninstalled? I'd want it just to clear my curses, don't care for waiting to rank up stuff especially if I can reduce the time later.
Ranger or Slayer for archery?
>>1919809If you plan to use the Devourer yourself, Ranger so you can do Enlarge+Hurricane bow and fire a rapid ballista.Otherwise, slayer
>>1919809>Ranger or Slayer for archery?depends
>>1919835does enlarge and hurricane bow stack?
>>1919747You're wrong or lying, showing the father the coins can allow a dialogue that will reveal one was done by the daughter.
>who cares that the teacher is looking to expand on our fledgling culture that has just managed to endure years upon years of hardship under the rule of gangs, monsters and monster gangs and is immensely important as a foundation for our newly established and officially sanctioned kingdom >who cares about the painter who wants to glorify our army that has fought against otherworldly beasts and stood by you shoulder to shoulder to protect our capital from building sized horrors>we should endorse the violin player because he is my friend XDErastil give me strength before I STRIKE THIS WOMANLET DOWN WHERE SHE STANDS
>>1919904Octavia whining about a tannery was more annoying to me.
Noob here, how do you deal with Fey's confusion skills early game, the only strategy I have is just to ooga booga them and hope the rng doesn't fuck me over with her concealment/invisibility.What skills are worth using heightened spell metamagic?Also,>went to a location with a bridge, forgot its name>cleared the whole map before finding a cave near the bridge>went it nonchalantly>suddenly a huge ass dragon(?) appeared>fuckme.avi>look at its stats, didn't think I could beat it, tried it anyway>nevermind, it just oneshotted my Valera>wanted to reload, found out my last save was in the overworld>wanted to just escape the cave, found out I couldn't escape outside while in a fight
>romancing the tiefling twins>Valerie keeps trying to flirt with me just because I'm nice>literally friendzoned her both subtly and straight up before>talks about being pleasured by her ex>seriously.jpg>friendzone her againThe devs really wanted people to go for the Valerie romance huh?Valerie has some strong lawtism to think that would in way make her more attractive to a person. No way I'm giving up sweet tiefling twins for some 9 Int bowl cut brute who spergs out over poems. Sorry Valerie, but the tails do make everything better.
>>1919914IT's fine, you can't beat it unless you have a cold iron weapon or similar magic anyway.
>>1919929You know you can have both right?
>>1919935The twins? Yeah, that is what I'm shooting for,
>>1919869Yep. So does Legendary proportions with hurricane bow/lead weapons.Devourer of metal will be doing 3d8 per arrow. Consider damage bonus with composite with your boosted strength modifier, and doing 2 extra attacks per round with Haste and Rapid aim, and possibly having sense vitals on top. It's hilarious before you even add other buffs, quivers etc
>>1919904She desperately needs a corrective standing full-nelson
for me it's the STACY party (and Linzi)
I just started the house at the edge of time and my god fuck these ghosts who thought they were a good ideaKallike and Kanerah's conversation was cute though
Any anons got tips for playing challenging with COTW in the DLC mission with Maegar?any interesting builds/party building tips using COTW would be appreciated, this is a ton of shit to look into and I have spent 2 hours making mercs alreadymy MC is gonna be a monk for sure and I have a pretty good Armored hulk tiefling right nowmy other 2 are struggling hard, not helping that maegar seems like hes a weak piece of shit as well, manticore tossed my salad hard so I'm going back to my previous save to make more effective people
>>1919953>stacy party>the literal stacy of the game isn't it in???
>>1919904She only gets butthurt if you pick the painter, she's a bit disappointed but still happy enough about the teacher getting the funds. Besides if the guys such a good musician like she says he should be able to make it big without me having to back him.
How the fuck do I deal with unrest? Only thing I can find is apparently putting a barracks beside a longhouse improves it, and I've done that a bunch and it's still at worried.
>>1920166do you have a Wardenwas the only way I found to reduce it significantly and it seemed limited overall since it relied on missions
>>1920166Upgrade the warden brainlet. His stat is called stability for a reason.
>>1920180How do other wardens even perform? Kesten's solution to everything seems to be more guards. I imagine Reg advocates to crush dissent swiftly and violently.
>replaying the game for the second time, finally dealt with barbarians and adventuring>literally spend the whole evening on kingdom management You know, I don't really blame people for dropping the game around Pitax, this shit really isn't engaging at all. Not even mentioning that most people probably didn't even know about artisans. Is building or whatever there is in WotR better?
AAAAAAAAA I'M LOST IN THE FUCKING HOUSE I CAN'T TAKE THIS SHIT ANYMORE
>>1920184Surprisingly, he acts like a military commander not like a bandit. Maybe like a WH40K commisar?Instead of "nuke it" he's more a of a "I'm gonna visit them with an imperial army" kind of guyAlso not a single soldier died when I sent them over to other nations for help and training.
>>1920197>Is building or whatever there is in WotR better?It is.
>>1920213Huh, I might actually have to switch out Kesten for him then. I expected him to be just overly cruel and dumb about it, already have Ekun as a spymaster anyway. Then again Amiri surprised me a bit as general.
>>1920238I had Ekun as warden (medieval police thingy) and he's good, Jaethal is the best spymaster tho, be sure to use her when people from your kingdom wants to loot some country.
Should get I Vordecai as a adviser? From my character standpoint it makes no sense but honestly having an ancient lich on the court sounds hilarious as fuck.
>>1920332Not worth it. It'd be cool if he was a giant cyclops, but he just uses Maegar Varns body so it's lame.
>>1920335He does unleash in the end game, and his griping is fun. You should try him at least once.
>>1912961Just installed this, it's melting my GPU and I'm still in the menu, wtf. My gtx 970 isn't exactly a beast but should be more than enough for crpgs. Divinity Original Sin 2 at max settings was smooth as a butter on my rig.
What makes Sword Saint so strong?
>>1920467I've got a 960 and it runs great.
>>1920474For defence:>dex dodge + int canny defence>no armor means mage armor+shield for easy 8AC>mirror image, blur, displacement>very convenient monk dip for even more ac and easy crane style>initiative bonusesfor offence:>+X enchantment on weapon that later gets replaced with additional elemental damage>unique +hit skills that use arcane pool like arcane accuracy>ability to easily utilize wands for increasing dps>+1 crit modifier, ability to expand the crit threat rangeI certainly forgotten something. This class is overloaded as fuck
>>1920483>blur, displacementnot an argumentbut everything else is correct
>>1920475So what could be the issue? It's just this game.
>>1920487wosyer CPU and ram
>>1920495Also are you actually monitoring temperatures or does the game just run bad?
>>1920487No clue, setup problems vary so much. Maybe make sure framerate is locked with Vsync?
>quick save>it eventually becomes not quick at all
>>1920514>quick save>alt+tab to shitpost >come back>it's still not done
>>1919904that's your fucking fault for putting this retard in charge of anything but your nightpot. Storyteller is objectively the best culture advisor
>swiftfoot is bugged for barbariansebin
>>1920893works on my machine
>>1919912>wanting your kingdom to be a dumping ground for foreigners stinky hides
>>1919912that was one thing she actually did right. My kingdom isn't some third world shithole the developed countries dump their shit into
I'm using turn-based mode and sometimes when I command a character to attack or cast a spell, they just stopped halfway through with question marks on their head and the command bar showing the action has been done, is this a bug?
>>1920467I had the same issues when my drivers broke and everything switched to iGPU, but since you say that your GPU gets hot, that's probably not the case. I'd start with checking if I had any crypto mining malware mayby. GTX 970 is enough to run it maxed I think (since my 1660 runs it maxed and that's comparable card to yours)
I wonder. Does this game have something like something Carsomyr?
>>1921011No, there is more of an armor equivalent.There are retarded endgame weapons for most weapon types though.
>>1921020Uh huh, and where do I get it? Artisans?
>>1921027Blessed Path armor in trollbold.Artisans have their own bullshit of course
what favored terrain should pick for a ranger? Which one is most common in the game?
>>1921041Forest.Followed by Highlands and Underground.After that, there are some urban areas after midgame you might want the bonuses for.And you pick first world at some pointDo not bother with Plains.Forest is the best early choice, by far
Harrim is a fucking baby throwing a temper tantrum jesus christ. >outlpay him on his own field using religious rhetoric>NOOOOOOOOO YOU JUST DON'T GET IT NOOOOOOOO ME SMASHjust fuck off, mate
>Think that the random chests going to "Goods" is just some bug>Realize just now at the edge of time that they're puzzlesFuck
What's some fun in-character companion reclassing you can do, especially with COTW?I'm kinda tempted to make Jaethal a melee Dirge Bard.
>the most efficient advisers are evil >the most optimal playthrough is lawful neutral>and good companions in this game are a traitor cleric, thieving Halfling and a promiscuous mage only black Batman is goodThis game is sending me mixed signals.
>>1921135Don't forget the cute goat, she's goodeven if her evil sister is better
>>1921139I actually never played Kalikke, always switched to her hotter sister.
>>1921140I definitely think Kanerah's the better sister, I wish Kalikke had some way to also be an advisor but I get why that wouldn't work. She ended up just not having as much content even when neither had a ton.But Kalikke was always cute
>>1921139>Don't forget the cute goat, she's goodoh yeah, forgot about the bleeding heart chaotic good retard. into the trash she goes as well
>>1921135but the fighter is good
>>1921107I only knew about the dried herbs ones, what else works?
>>1921345The books in the edge of time is apparently another. I'm blindly wandering around the area right now and don't really know what I'm doing here though
>>1921353>. I'm blindly wandering around the area right now and don't really know what I'm doing here thoughthat's just the house at the end of fun in general
>>1921353there are goods chests in tenebrous depths, I was wondering if those were puzzles
>>1921107>>1921410Wait, what? What chests?
>>1921437empty containers that say "goods" in their menuthere are some places in the main game where you can put an item in one of them and they turn into loot chests or they trigger something (like the book door puzzle in hateot)
What's the best advisors? Haven't played in a while so i don't remember the trap or just shitty options.
>>1921447fuck, I didn't know that and I've finished the game like 10 times. Is there a list of those chests and what to put in them?
>>1921450Just in terms of statistics none of them, they all work to get stats and other concrete effectsI assume when people say some are bad it just means the ending you get from letting them do what they want has a negative spin, like if you make Harrim your divine advisor and always do what he wants, in the ending linzi will say your kingdom has a bunch of violent evil cults from allowing too much religious freedom
>>1921450Storyteller for culture, or jaethal if you want a propaganda machinebart for diplomacyekun or kessen for wardenekun for minister. some say jaethal also does a good job but i've never tried itthe aldori plant for military but only because the other candidates are pants on head retardedjubilost for treasurerno good candidates for a regent or magic advisor undortunately (why the fuck can't you make bart a magic advisor?)tristian makes a good councilor if you're willing to overlook the whole 'tried to destroy your kingdom twice' thing
>>1921462oh, and jhod for grand cleric because fuck religious freedoms unironically
>>1921458I couldn't find a list, the ones I know of are the hateot puzzle, the two dried herbs chests in act 1, and apparently a thing I never did which is that you can summon something at lake silverstep village to get a fight by putting the fish from the shore in a goods container there. I hope there are more I haven't heard of before.
>took too long to complete Nature of the Beast >my char had absolutely no context for Bart's black whip quest >recruited him as an advisor after it and made him my diplomat because why not?>tfw my CG character has no idea that he counts fantasy Mengele as one of his confidants
>>1915712my choice varied mostly with how old I were, not that it means I was immature or anything, just preference I guess.From 6-13 years I always picked Lawful Good.14-25 Chaotic Good25-Present Chaotic Neutral
>>1921469>the two dried herbs chests in act 1more info on that please> lake silverstep village to get a fight by putting the fish from the shore in a goods container there.summons a wyvern. it's not a chest, it's a pile of bones and viscera on the cliff above the cyclops cave
>>1921497you put a dried herb in a chest and you get some hidden loot. First one is in the abandoned hut area, second is in the jail cell holding stag lord's father in the stag lord fort (there are books in abandoned hut that say stag lord's druid father makes these magic chests). The loot is nothing world changing so don't be butthurt if you never found it.
>>1921507>The loot is nothing world changing so don't be butthurt if you never found it.oh what do you know. I'm gonna restart the game now
I saw some posts saying that Athletics affects exhaustion but is this confirmed?
>>1921520as far as i can tell constitution affects exhaustion rate, not athletics, but i might be wrong
>>1921486how old are you now?
>>1913668Bro just make an eldritch scion with all the meta stuff like crane style and shit
>>1913668knifemaster rogue is fun
>>1913668>every melee class i tried so far that doesnt spec for full tank melts as soon as they get focused by something.That's just how D&D is, if you get hit on an 11 roll instead of a 20 roll you're taking a good bit more than 10x as much damage (extra from crit confirms). It's why everyone that is ever going to be attacked needs only-hit-on-20 tier defense, at least against the most common enemies they're gonna fight.
>>1921462>no good candidates for a regent Valerie is literally created for being regent. Her lawtism is actually needed there>tristian makes a good councilor and Tsanna makse for even better one
>can't bring myself to kill companions even when roleplaying chaotic evil retardon one hand I would be missing out on advisors, quests and looton the other hand my roleplay falls apart if I don't kill any of them the only winning move is not to play and shitpost instead
>>1921584>Valerie is literally created for being regent. Her lawtism is actually needed there>negative intellect>good as anything but a battering ram>a psychotic cultist as counciloryikes
Another portrait edit, original is from -https://www.artstation.com/artwork/W5KoNForgot about that guy, he made some nice PoE portraits 4 years ago (holy shit time flies).Also he has a great halfling/gnome portrait -https://www.artstation.com/artwork/PxxGZImagine if we would have something like this instead of Linzi.
>>1921592Valerie may be dumb but she's still a person with strong moral integrity which is perfect for the position.
>>1921592>negative intellect>good as anything but a battering ramand that's what she is supposed to beshe's supposed to enforce the lawand Tsanna might be Lamashtu's cultist but she makes your people strong and self-reliant
>>1921597valerie probably can't even read. she'll have trouble wrapping her head around new laws
>>1921616She's a noblewoman and was meant to be a paladin of Shelyn, therefore she actually should've been taught all sorts of etiquette and poetry and other stuff.There is a possibility though that during the simple soldier life she'd been bonked to the head a bit too much.
>>1920960>>1920983>Having industry makes you a third world shithole
>>1921462I have Linzi for Culture right now and besides her showing obvious bias to her friend she's been fine, I'd rather storyteller for magic. Amiri isn't actually that bad in my experience as a general despite not expecting her to be particularly good at it and someone was saying earlier Regongar is actually good as a warden. I only have Valerie as a diplomat because Bart got killed by trolls and the only other option is fucking Linzi, who I put on the job for the first event since Valerie was busy as Regent and she wanted me to let Pitax hunters off with trespassing instead of having patrols on our borders.
>>1921592Tsanna is unironically the best NPC advisor in the game as a Councillor. She's only crazy if you let her be your High Priestess.
>>1921708I assume as high priestess she's a middle ground between Jhod shooting down most other religions and Harrim accepting anything and everything? I intend to do a replay before Wrath as a lawful or neutral evil character.
>>1921746LN where you choose LG or LE when it makes sense is one of the best playthroughs you can have
I regret picking chaotic good so much most of these dialogue choices are cringe as it turns out lawful neutral/evil seems to be more my style
>>1921908yup, chaotic good means naive retard with golden heart
>>1921751thisLG for your subjectsLE for everyone elseend up LN
>>1921746She is the chaotic evil priestess of the goddess of monsters and insanity.Very middle ground, yes.
>>1921951Lamashtu did nothing wrong, Desna is a carpet munching old dyke.
>>1921962Gee I wonder who typed this post
Here is the best way to enjoy Pathfinder Kingmaker:>use less than 6 characters, at max five, preferably four for variety and to have enough to fill different roles: this makes the leveling speed tolerable>only mercenaries since the quality of writing in this game is absolute garbage and also because it is a roleplaying game, so roleplay and create your own custom group based on your preferences>have resting remove all status conditions>while playing, don't read any dialogue garbage: just check the alignment of each choice and pick the skill checks that give you the best way reward aka most EXP>no savescumming, obviously>as already pointed out, skip all the trash dialogue unless there is EXP or quest to be gained>the end-game is absolute gabrage (as we've noticed) so once you reach Nyrissa's dungeon, just restart the game with a new party if you insist on playing it: fun comes from different party setups and experimenting>naturally set Kingdom Management to auto because while it has potential, it is a mess filled with terrible game design choices and basic mistakes from the devs such as poor UI and tons of completely unnecessary loading screensThat is all, if you disagree that's fine, you may remain inferior. Though there is another option: play a better game.
>>1914658Kingmaker has no summon limit. You can roll a cleric and use meta magic to fill out 3rd, 4th, and 5th spell slots with Animate Dead. Then fill out 7th, 8th, and 9th spell slots with Create Undead.With Evil domain and high Wisdom you can easily get 30 or so skelly summons. Combine that with other cleric or wizard party members and you can flood the world in hordes of skellies.
>>1921976I bet this is the type of faggot that plays with anime portraits lmao
>>1913699Higher dps against evil enemies and has some of the highest saving throws in the game.
>>1921976>no savescumming, obviouslywho among us doesnt quick save before opening a boxi refuse to believe anyone here just accepts that its not Linzis lucky day and just move on
>>1921988Nope, that kind of people are my arch enemies. You are bad at betting.
>>1921962baphomet diddling paws typed this post
>>1921995I just enabled the ability to repick as much as I want because I know for a fact I'll quicksave before picking anyways so I'm skipping the load times
>>1921998post your toon, faggot
>>1921976>>only mercenaries since the quality of writing in this game is absolute garbage and also because it is a roleplaying game, so roleplay and create your own custom group based on your preferencesNahIf I can't have Kanerah shit talk Tristian and Sarenrae all game I'm not playing
>>1921995>>1922001Your very existence is an insult to RPGs. If you were participating in a tabletop session and your dice roll failed you, would you stand up and demand that the DM allows you to reroll again? You Skyrim-normies have no sense of roleplaying, immersion, rules and consequences.
>>1922016>If you were participating in a tabletop sessionwhat if we weren't?
>>1922016>If you were participating in a tabletop session and your dice roll failed you, would you stand up and demand that the DM allows you to reroll again?Of course not, but I'm not playing a tabletop game, I'm playing a video game with a set story. If I fail a check or die or whatever in a tabletop game that's just a different route that the game's story has taken me. Sometimes that story was as simple as my rogue not getting a pair of high end magic daggers he saw locked in a cage, sometimes it was that rogue getting blasted across the room by an explosion after he failed to disarm a trap (I miss my boy Merrin he was fun). If I fail opening a chest in Kingmaker I'm probably never going to get the things behind that again, even if that thing was merely a +1 weapon that nobody in my party uses
>>1922016>would you stand up and demand that the DM allows you to reroll again?yes
>>1922019That's the point, you wouldn't because you are a Skyrim-normie and these kind of thoughts are completely alien to you.The whole point of out-of-combat feats is that by investing in them you can increase your rewards and out-of-combat options. What's the point if you just savescum anyway? Let me guess, you only pick combat feats, savescum through the whole game and then pat yourself on the back?You are my arch nemesis too, like the animeposter.
>>1921995I go with the consequences whatever they may be. I realize I'm in the minority and somehow "hardcore" even for doing this but I do. One playthrough I almost went bankrupt because reg kept dying. Makes the runs fun but obviously its for people who do multiple runs, failing a check on one run is no big deal because there will the next one.That said opening boxes doesn't matter at all.
>>1922026oh my god no
>>1922034Do you also play that Last Aslanti mode then?
>>1922034You are not hardcore, you are simply following the rules like a man of virtue should. You may be in the minority on this bitch of an earth we live in but you should be the standard.
>>1922041I don't that's too much for me. I do like to finish the runs after all.
>>1922026>out-of-combat featsbased deft hands picker
>>1921976>no savescumming, obviouslyPost your lost Azlanti save right now or you are a nigger full of shit
>>1922046yea i just dont see the point of setting these arbitrary rules for myself when i play a game for fun, i like the challange and i dont excessivly reload where i set off traps, but the "1 try" limit on lockpick really ruins itthere should be a similar thing to disabling traps, where you get unlimited tries but you can risk jamming the lock
>>1922070Completely agree who tries once and gives up.
>>1922059I follow rules and accept consequences of my decisions maturely so by definition I can't be what you just said.
>>1922100>skill focus: trickery>deft hands>claims to not be a thieving niggerhmm
>>1922106Correct, I'm the hide in plain sight NTR man who feels up your wife right in front of you.
>>1922070You don't get one try, you get one try each level. Come back later and try again when your skill is higher. You should always give your main lockpicker the feats that improve trickery. It is also a good idea to have another back up lockpicker just in case. Octavia, Jaethal, Jubilost, and Nok Nok also have trickery as class skills. You are just a Skyrimbaby that cannot handle the fact that you can actually fail in this game.
>>1922144i was save scumming in 1993, kid. fuck off with your immersive tabletop e-LARPing, this is cRPG country.
every single thing being a locked chest is just gold or shit you sell for goldpeople who get upset when they fail have autismyou didnt invest the feats, you get less gold. that's it
Ideal 9th level spells for AT Octavia?
>>1922157Metamagic: Maximize - Hellfire Ray
>>1922144Man, I would love to see you return to the Sycamore when you've gained a level and then fail again, and then when you've gained another level go back yet again... and fail.Noone does this, its a dumb limitation that only encourages save scumming.>>1922150Cant really think of anything right now, but are you sure there are no unique items in locked chests? What if there is a really neat item for your MC, you just turn 360 degrees and walk away if you fail? I'm sorry but I just dont believe you purists play like that.
>>1922150that sounds like really bad itemization with no benefit for picking locks, then. if there is nothing to miss in chests, why are they there at all?
>>1922150The Knock spell would mitigate alot of this. I'm pretty sure its a spell in 3.5E but maybe not in Pathfinder?
So I can safely sell those artisan gifts if I'm not planning on using them, right?
>>1922206I mean, it's rude to sell a gift but nobody is going to stop you.
>>1921920very trueI remember back when I played PST the game assigned me the neutral good alignment that eventually shifted to chaotic good because I sacrificed a village to some demons in my quest to stop the transcendent one when I picked CG I thought it play out like that or at least close to it ie. putting the good of your kingdom and subjects ahead of everything and everyone but here they translated CG as having total and complete disregard for rules and laws if they get in the way of a good deedthat's not the kind of guy I amit's also kind of off putting that I created a CG half elf female with a blue color scheme only to run into Octavia
>>1922219I don't want to but these brazen thieves niggers CANNOT stop robbing me blind every month.
>>1920763Storyteller goes magistrate or bust. I hear jaethal is ok as cultural adviser, turns it into a propoganda arm for the state.
I'm playing evil asshole knifemastershould I romance Kanerrah or fag it up with Reg?
>>1922318Go for the goat. The tail is too tempting
>>1922296ditch RED BOOBA(s) and go for GREEN BOOBA
>>1922354Goat has a tail and a cute accentSalad does not have a tail and doesn't have a cute accentI know which one I'd choose
>>1922296I slept with Kanerah during like, Troll Trouble era of the game then never again, did the goats quest in the neutral way, and she never nagged me about romance again. I didn't ever say "we're breaking up" or something, I just got the Nyrissa ending with no mention of it again.
>>1913490>game ignores me when I told the guards to seize herthis pissed me off the most. It's my fucking kingdom, if she's not behaving despite my warnings I want to have her head, why is she allowed to just walk away as if it was her choice?
>>1922318Get some of that shocking Half Orc lovin'
>>1915411>Exception is Tristrian-Jaethal stuff, but only a christlike PC wouldn't at least exile Tristrianwait, so what do you need to do not to lose Tristrian? because I finished his questline, helped him every time I could and he stayed a mortal, but he died anyway.
>>1922535Jaethal needs to spare her daughter and become the Pharasma inquisitorTristian needs you to basically try and redeem a bunch of key people, I think that cult leader that you can convince to commit suicide instead of killing his daughter is the important one
>>1922537>redeem a bunch of key people, I think that cult leader that you can convince to commit suicide instead of killing his daughterI think I did that, I guess then you need to do both Jaethal and Tristian's side of the quest perfectly to have him survive, because I'm pretty sure I wasn't very forgiving in the Jaethal questline. I actually reloaded the whole house and told Jaethal to fuck off from my party so that I never have to see her again, but she shows up and kills Tristian all the same in the house anyway.
>>1922541Yeah you need to do both of their questlines properly to have both survive. I don't know who lives/dies depending on whether you do one wrong
>>1922535I'm not sure if Tristrian can survive a Jaethal-Tristrian confrontation if you didn't do the stuff to make BOTH of them survive. I've only had both or only Jaethal live. I assume you can kill or never recruit Jaethal in the first place or something but I haven't done it myself. I feel like I've heard people post like "WTF Tristrian killed Jaethal at HATEOT how do I avoid" before so there must be a way.
4 hours and I'm finally out of Nyrissa's funhouseWhat happens if I offer an alliance with the salad but I'm not going for a full romance route with her?
>>1922604I think it's dependent on various things but she allied with me in the final battle and I had a few choices of how to deal with her in the final decisions. I never got Briar at all in that game.
>>1922604Depends if you decided to fight Lantern Boy forever (has a variant if you romanced her too), told him to just fuck off or accepted his herald offer (thus Nyrissa fights alone forever)
>>1921593>slightly cold girl with flat tits that speak too muchI'd love that, tits too big, red hair needs more fluff.
Somehow I ended up just with Kanerah for my romance end. Must've made some dialog mistakes somewhere. Ah well. Liked my ending regardless.
should I do the companion quests before or after showing up for the tournament?
So if I fucked up and gave Amiri weapon focus in bastard sword, how decent are the 2H bastard swords available? Are the ones from her quest decent?
>>1923003I don't know how long you have between getting the invitation and going to the tournament but it's definitely on some kind of timer. Might be plenty of time to do stuff after getting the invitation, might not. Make a hard save before trying to do other stuff.
>>1923012You didn't fuck up. The bastard swords from her quest are pretty great, especially the one you get from the best outcome. Don't feel like you need to have her stick with bastard swords the whole game (you can if you want to, I did); if you think she's falling behind weapon-wise just give her a good greataxe or greatsword until you get access to one of the better bastard swords. You only miss out on the bonus from Weapon Focus and Improved Critical, she's a barbarian so she'll still hit almost as hard.
>Be me>Almost at Stag Lord>Hate my character and alignment>Realize the characters I was going to use have shit personalities.>Want to restart the game.How do I prevent this curse.
>>1923091You don'tI've got 600 hours in the game and have only gotten past the trolls once
>>1923091what was the character and alignmentI wonder how many people that complain about this sort of thing have some build that only comes online at like level 19 instead of planning the character with every stage of the game in mind
>>1923096I started Scaled Fist, now I'm 2 Scaled Fist 2 Sorcerer.Was going to go Dragon Disciple and basically be a DBZ character punching things to death so melee DD
>>1923096>build that only comes online at like level 19And that right there is the problem with buildfags.
Someone give me a dumb meme build for Valerie for my LE game
>>1923202something something vivi dipsomething something thug dip
>>1923202Fighter (Tower Shield Specialist) 10/Stalwart Defender 10
>>1923202tss 1/abyssal scion 19
>install cotw>get to class selection>mfwhow do i proceed
>>1923298If you don't know what you're playing, why did you increase the options you have to sort through?
>>1923298>how do i proceedUninstall CotW.
>>1923012you dont have to use 2h bastard swords only1h work justing as fine wielded 2h
>>1923202Slayer Shield Basher.
>>1923324Unironically a fun build.
>>1923303>>1923307found a 2 hour video explaining the changes im just gonna watch this then I think I can make a decision
>the only way to have a decent councilor is to either forgive a traitor that conspired to ruin your barony and got countless inocents killed or to give a position of power to a lunatic pagan cult priestess who worships a god that hates humans
>>1923666Or trust the experienced old lady
>"good" Tiefling sister completely willing to use her own sister as bait to save 3 of her dumbass friends>>1923666I hate how most of your options if you want to take him back are being forgiving to him and treating him like a friend still. No option to say you let him stay to atone or because he's useful but you won't ever be friends again.
>>1923674She's not portrayed as being right for doing so, but using your high-level adventurer sister as bait isn't actually an unreasonable plan.
>>1923666>worship a goddess that hates you and wants you deadthe ultimate cuck choice
>>1923310How can you switch between 1h and 2h for the normal bastard swords?
>>1923674>and treating him like a friend stillI'm pretty goddamn sure that in my LE run there were opinions something like that if he don't atone for his betrayal I will send him right under executioner blade or something like that.
>>1923666Granny is a fantastic councilor. She leaves for like a month at most if you're quick to resolve the situation.
>>1923747If you have nothing in the offhand, it is treated as two-handed, the exception are Two-Handed Fighter class perks - those need real two-handers. Try equipping and unequipping a shield and you'll see the damage change in your character sheet, and in combat you'll use 2h animations too.
I'm playing an Evil Sage Sorcerer and want to take a 1 level Wizard dip. I know the general rule is "thou shalt not lose caster levels" and being an extra one behind as a Sorc might be painful. But I'm thinking a bit of XP overlevelling would reduce that and I also get:>Bunch of extra lvl1 spells>Extra feat for whatever>Arcane Bond / Familiar >First Level school skillsThe spells arn't all that but stuff like truestrike / shield / mage armor the duration doesn't matter much and it means I don't have to waste a Sorc pick for them. They also scale with Intel anyway. I'm thinking the scroll savant feat could be useful for use any item rolls. Otherwise its just an extra free feat for whatever. I'm thinking Viper and Enchantment for the familiar and school though. Gets me +5 persuasion and +2 saves against enchantment. Though something like Evocation and Arcane bond would also be useful.Seems pretty decent for a 1 level dip. Thoughts?
>>1923829It doesn't sound very fun. You're one level behind in spell acquisition from being a Sorcerer and now you'll be two levels behind. As a Sorcerer you won't hurt for level 1 spells either. The early game is the worst time to be a caster and building such a character is very much about the journey too. You can say 'yeah but I'll merge with Lich' but a) it will take a while of sucking your way through the game and b) aim for the stars bro, don't settle for a worse spellbook merging.It's not always wrong to dip full casters. Once you're, say, a level 10 Wizard or Witch that one dip into Sorcerer can give you a very good bloodline power and you have enough spells already that it matters way less. Especially into Crossblooded Sorcerer. You can have elemental bloodlines for nuking or serpentine/fey for enchantment spells. But dipping into Sorcerer is where it's at, the other arcane casters don't give you nearly as much as you'd want.
>go to bed after a day of hiking>some slut wakes me up and starts whining about flowers>tell her to fuck off and go back to sleep>keeps stalking me like a psycho>keep telling her to fuck off>tee hee senpai please come to this secluded place alone>definitelynotatrap.jpg>but sure, let's go, maybe then she'll fuck off and leave me the fuck alone>muahaha i played you like a damn fiddle and you fell for it>really nigga?>wipe the floor with her goons and forget she existshas there ever been a villain more pathetic than this bitch?
>>1923738The only non cuck choice is to hire a merc.
>>1923856>YOU THOUGHT IT WAS GOBLINS SUMMONING MONSTERS TO YOUR LANDS? IT WAS ME, NYRISSA!
>>1923829Doesnt sound worth it desu.
>>1923856It's okay anon, you just aren't a Chad.
>>1923692For the sake of some literal who's you happen to be friends with? Then again should have expected it with her being chaotic good.
>>1923895I find it funny that Jaethal is a massive bitch to everyone but unironically gets along very well with Valerie.
Can I just leave Pitax to burn? I did the "good' ending for Pitax in my previous playthrough and that involved helping Annamede become headmaster. Only to find out later that she does nothing but slander you and your kingdom after you help her.
>>1923971>for the sake of her friendsYes? What's so strange about that. You realise Kanerah isn't actually in danger, right? The only reason it's a bad decision is because it plays into the devil's keikaku>Then again should have expected it with her being chaotic good.t. CE schizo
>>1923829No, don't do it. Use wands or potions for some level 1 effects, or just make a Sensei merc for a party wide true strike.
How many Iconics are there? Is it just per class or is their ones for archetypes as well? Like would you have a iconic for>Inquisitior>Sacred Huntsmaster>Tactical Leader>Monster TacticianOr just a Inquisitior one?
>>1923975Because Valerie is a massive bitch too. She just tries to hide it under the whole "honorable paladin" charade.
>>1923975It's funny that while Jaethal is a massive bitch, she is one of the most faithful party members to you. Also has that hot ending where she returns in the youthful body of her daughter and becomes your mistress.
>>1924018It's funny since you can get that ending while also having Valerie as your queen.
>>1923975Valerie's not that friendly either. She's not as antagonistic but she's pretty snobby and quick to anger. I will say though it's justified with Linzi because even though she makes it clear she doesn't like getting constant compliments about her appearance and shit Linzi still simps hard for her. Her entire questline is just her actually understanding it's okay for someone to have a different opinion to you on something, in her case art.
>>1923994The "elect a new leader" ending for the academy is the most benign
stop playing pfkm, anon, go and try solasta and bg3
>>1923994>Only to find out later that she does nothing but slander you and your kingdom after you help her.What did you expect from a chaotic nigger bard?She tells you in the face that loyality is something bards make up toy with people,expecting her to be loyal to you...you must really have a 3 int.You should have sticked with the old headmaster and execute Annamede,you don't like trash live you kill it and annamede is below trash
>>1924063>you don't like trash live you kill it and annamede is below trashYou don't let trash live you clean it up and she is a trashcan*
>>1924060Don't tell me what to do PFKM has cuter tieflings
>>1924063>execute AnnamedeCan you? I don't remember.
>>1923924>>1923924the potential was there, but she ended up being a pathetic whiny bitch, not even a saturday morning cartoon worthy. Not sure if she'd be better with better writing. The Lantern boy was far more memorable even if he was in a game for roughly 5 seconds
>>1924063>actually siding with Irovetti's pathetic sycophant
>>1923829It's basically a dip for the value of a couple of minor feats. I don't think I'd ever find it necessary and I'd definitely be cursing it when I was one level below the threshold of unlocking a new spell tier, but I imagine there's some situation where those feats can do something vital.
>>1924073Yes you can but you MUST NOT support Annamede when you meet her,after you kill Inoveti you have to choose a new headmaster and killing that cunt is the (Lawful Evil) option and best outcome >>1924079Consider that sycophant will 100% support if you let remain the leader of the academy unlike that other treacherous bitch.Yeah i'm siding with her
>>1921976>playing crpgs for the gameplay of all things
>>1924087Nice, I'm playing Lawful Evil in this run too. Man LE has a lot of satisfying choices in this game.
>>1924087>wanting a spineless sycophant who will only side with you at literally the very last moment, only if you have a specific alignment, and who most of the other bards hate for being retardedDumb lawtist, just let the Academy elect their own leader if you're that put out by the idea. The scene where Annamede stabs Atalia in the back (preferably right after she's decided to jump ship to you after all) is too hilarious to miss out on.>unlike that other treacherous bitchYou said yourself Annamede straight-out tells you what she's going to do. How is that treacherous?
>>1924095because lawful evil is the smart alignment unironically
>>1924123>Annamede straight-out tells you what she's going to doAnd you agree and support a bitch that will flat out shit on you at every fucking turn and tells you loyality if for idiots?>Dumb lawtistOh there is someone dumb here alright....let me guess Chaotic Neutral?
>>1923756there are options to say Tristian will meet the kingdom's executioner if he doesn't pick up the slack on the hilltop curse yes
>not outlawing all ((((((((((((bard))))))))))))))) fucking shits and setting up a weekly 'burn the bard" traditionit's like you people want sub 10 int retards roaming your countryside
>>1924146Well yeah the only good bard is a dead bard
>>1924148The only good bard is the slutty bard in my bed
>>1924146Bards are great, though. Can't get the Good Hope for nothing, can we?
>>1924154sure, than can hope for good all they want while i'm dragging their asses to the gallows
>>1924154repair the troll trouble dwarf helmet and yeah you canthen you get the heroic invocation weapon in pitax
>>1924143>And you agree with a bitch that will flat you their will shit on you at every fucking turnThat doesn't happen, though. The ending only says that they're not shy of criticising your rule, not that they do nothing but do so. That's a pretty clear difference.>and tells you loyality if for idiots?There's nothing wrong with that, it makes her a known quantity. And at least she actually does her fucking job. The best ending is where you let the bards appoint their own leader (which Annamede is fine with), but Annamede is definitely a better choice than a washed-up, incompetent sycophant who is almost universally disliked by her fellows.>let me guess Chaotic Neutral?Lawful Neutral/Lawful Good (emphasis on the Lawful), because LN should be about being sensible, not "I'll choose a worthless lickspittle over someone actually competent just because they pledge loyalty to me"Accidentally misquoted because I am a dumb
>>1924154>>1924160>>1924161>Bards are greatYeah,i love it when they hang you know?really brightens up the mood
>>1923856Kevin Smith's Inceletor
>>1924060>bg3DOS3 is shit>>1924006Just classes not archetypes
>>1924232nah, skeletor is iconic enough to make everything he does charming, even if it is inceldom
>>1923829it's a very stupid idea
>>1923829You're not getting anywhere near enough a return on what you're investing so I'd advise against that
>crit sneak damage for 50+ damage in a single hit>"KNIFE TIME"i love this little guy
>switch from ranger to Slayer after lvl 4>"oh man im so smart, now im gonna get a pet + sneak attack bonus">mfw i realize 3 levels later than the pet doesnt level up without Ranger levels
>>1923829You can make a case for a sorc dip on a wizard build if you're picking up something useful bloodline wise. You cannot make the case for a wiz dip on a sorc. Don't do it.
>>1924383Congratulations, you played yourself.
How do I cure diseases in this game?
>>1924383you played yourself, but at least you've saved me from the same fate
>>1924431Dont fuck Calistrians
>>1924383Not to mention you are playing a class that gets Sense vitals and Quarry on it's own.
>>1923847>>1923925>>1924000>>1924081>>1924330>>1924369>>1924413Alright. Thanks for the feedback. I'll stay clear. Think I'm mostly trying to compensate for the shit lvl1 abilities for Sage Sorc but I'll just have to suck it up.
anyone of you ever played with Auto Kingdom Management from start to finish? How awful is it?
>Amiri meets her old tribe>Chief tells her to go back to the kitchen>she punches him>do nothing because they're barbarians, just let them fight it out and settle it>mfw she draws her sword and fucking kills the tribe chief>guy doesnt even try to defend himself
>>1924628I'm in the middle of first playthrough and I wish I picked auto sometimes (I have at the easy)
>>1924628Doesn't auto management eventually death spiral you?
>>1924655Makes me want to replay to let her kill old man there so I can force her to kill Nilak later.
Any advice for druid builds?Not really sure what to do that lets me do more than just sit around while the animal companion decimates everything.
>>1924724just go defender of the true world and spend you time shapeshifted and flanking enemies
>>1924724magic fang stacks with greater magic fangwhich stacks withmanticore clawswhich stacks withamulet of mighty fists or agile fistswhich stacks withmonk robes (which don't work when you shapeshift, so this isn't that important for a druid)between that and your buffs and defender of the true world bonuses and thundering bear claw scimitar and your pet a druid that pumps strength has very strong total damage output - substitute a martial, not a cleric. 1 tradmonk/19 defender of the true world.If you really love unkillable characters you can fire and forget in RTWP you can make a feyspeaker and lose 5 AB at 20 but self-cast mirror image, but in turnbased even on unfair it's totally unnecessary
>>1924779*also if you equip the sai with the "greater speed" trait in your offhand you get two extra attacks per turn while shifted
>>1924628Auto will fucked you up because no matter what the AI is fucking retarded, go with Effortless instead.
>>1924818If auto doesn't break the shit out of something important I'd use it on a replay, just loading in and out of the throne room is a fucking chore
What does the lowered difficulty do for kingdom management exactly? I imagine it improves the odds for events but is that it? Do you get more stats faster, less time spent on shit?
>>1924846As far as I can tell it's just events
>>1924818I want to kill every character I can so I won't have advisors
>>1924897You literally can't, the game is all about the kingdom in the first place.
>>1924903You sure? Is there anyone you can't get rid of or never recruit besides Linzi?
>>1924937Tristian before Betrayer's FlightStorytellerOther than that I think pretty much enyone can die/got rid off
>mfw party with 3 petswe RTS now
>>1924949I hope you don't play turnbased. I can barely stand the pet I gave to Amiri. I also don't respec Jaethal as monster tactician exactly for this reason.
>>1924687Yeah, but you can also select 'invincible kingdom' which will at least stop it from ending your game.>>1924846It gives you a bonus to the roll used for event resolution.
More liek FARTFINDER:SHITMAKER, amirite?