a few plot characters are being killed off in 5.5/5.55, are you ready?
>>1531970I hope Arenvald makes it.
I hope [your favourite character] dies
Nobody's gonna die but the City-State leaders are gonna get kidnapped and tempered. We'll have to kick their asses and untemper them in EW.
This is probably old/irrelevant news but I just noticed the Daniel towers seem to have a white/light reflection in water. Wonder what's the deal with that.
>>1533665how boring. what shit padding. asahi and fuckign zenos are the worst ideas to bring back to finalize the mystery nigga crystal primal stories.
>>1531970zombie tempered plot devices is pretty shit.
>>1531970>bozja fags diewho the fuck cares>weapons characters dieswho the fuck cares>arenvald diesI CARE>city state punks die please kill off nanamo and aymeric please>b team scions diei will fucking destroy japan to protect aenors happiness.
LYON, LIVE!
Is it too late to try Unreal Titan?
>>1533809You ever go as close as possible to the Thanalan one? It looks really bad and small
>>1535625It's still there til the 13th I think
Why do we need a thread 24/7?
>>1536025Do you really want to discuss the game on /vg/?
>>1536037You can. Stop acting like they're allergic to it.
>>1536043I've absolutely never seen interesting discussion about the game's story and lore that I've seen in /v/ or /vrpg/ threads happen in /vg/. People try to bring up interesting points sometimes but it's drowned in a sea of ERPing and avatarposting and the post gets ignored until the thread is locked or at best gets pity memes replies.Might as well just tell me to go look for neo-classicist paintings on DeviantArt.
>>1536043/xivg/ is mentally ill tranny general. It’s just autists doing cringe ERP and random bursts of drama because someone hurt their little feefees. There seems to be a whole lot of discord faggotry as well.
>>1536156>>1536086Delusional. Try it and you can prove me wrong. Say Iyob Johal from Gilgamesh sent you.
>>1536243There's nothing wrong with /vrpg/ threads. You're just butthurt that some people don't want to indulge in or put up with your faggotry.
>>1536267It's all blogposting and people talking out of their ass.
>>1536271/vrpg/ has genuine discussion but they don't happen at the tail end of the patch since all discussion that can be had has already been had so people just talk about their latest experience in DF/PF.
>>1536282and it's all so tiresome. so many larps
>muh orbonne monastery its shit and youre shit. royal city of rabanastre is better you stupid matsuno fags.
>>1536888Mustadio > MateusHashmal > AgriasThundergod > RofocaleUltima > ArgathOrbonne wins.
>>1536901getting filtered by pillar bro i see.
>>1536888Ridorana is the best by default because it lets you laugh at smoothbrains who can't even do basic math.I open up a screen on my second monitor with prime numbers on them because I can never remember them I'm a WAR main please no bully.
>>1536925i did fine with ridorana math first time. that water jug man filtered the shit out of me like first 5 times or so. guess i focus too much on mine buttons.
>>1536925As far as that fight is concerned, prime numbers are just odd numbers
Endwalker will have a good ending, right anons? Kinda need it.
>>1537169>unimportant HEAD CANONKneel
>>1537169no it wont have a satifying ending if we fight zenos. it will be literal anime tier trust in your friends.
>>1537213Blah blah blah unimportant screeching from a fatfag Yeah nobody gives a shit about your opinion.
>>1537169You channel the power of Hydaelyn and Zodiark to defeat Zenos merged with the Noise aka Not!Safer-Sephiroth.
>>1537232Do you have the game? If not shut up.
>>1537249Joking aside I do expect Hydaelyn and Zodiark to end up fusing into one being in the end since they're two halves of the solution.
>>1537226>>1537249Curb your autism, tendie
>>1537290>>1537291Stop talking shit about the game Paublo. Just stop being in these threads if you don't like it that much.
>>1537301Oh boy here we go.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RcK1OxbVq4M
I hope pirate city bitch dies, she pissed me off in one ARR cutscene 50 years ago and I still haven't forgiven her
>>1537290they already are 1 being
>>1537309Who cares.>>1537313You have a problem.
>calling a deliberate screenshot used on the official blog "leaking">Mewonni not knowing what a pantomime isWhat a fucking retard.
>>1537335I hate youtubers, I am pretty sure you hate youtubers and the degenerates society leeches that call themselves "content creators".So dare I ask. WHY DO YOU CONTINUE POSTING THIS SHIT RANDOMLY IN THIS THREAD JUST TO GET MAD AT IT
>>1537309All these brit youtubers have the dullest voices known to man, how do they get viewers? It actually boggles my mind
>thinking endwalker will be kinono it wont.
>>1537396Much like how Shadowbringers topped pic related, Endwalker will top Shadowbringers. Gameplay is gonna be ass though
>>1537396>unexplored head canonShut the fuck up and kneel
>>1537415seethe more.
>>1537452you're the only one seething cuckarooni
will completing the 5.4 MSQ be required for anything on Tuesday? I haven't played in a few months, I've done Emerald Weapon and all the Nier raids, and I'm hoping to finish those questlines on patch day. Have not finished the 5.4 MSQ.
>>15374595.4 is required for Bozja stuff which is in 5.55
>>1537465ah perfect. then im good to go
>>1537465Are we gonna cure the tempering? Aren't the Blades fucking morphed beyond repair?
>>1537475The Blades are 100% gone.
>>1537475The blades are dead as of Delubrum, since you killed them.
>>1537482>>1537483Misijia is pretty so she is forgiven.
>>1537482>>1537483Matsuno was drunk and doesn't remember killing them so they'll be fine in 5.55.
>tempered zombie trope>3 different cities rushed>ending at 6.0primal crystal ending is gonna flop but could be salvaged if rest of 6.1 is noise nigga stuff.
>>1537519don't think there's anyway the big REEEE isn't wrapped up, as its the reason Z and H even exist
>>1537519who cares. it'll be great and you'll be jealous fucking WoWfag
>>1537528good point. shit.
>>1537530okay pablo whatever.
Do the Spectral Dragoons imply dragons are on other shards somehow or am I thinking too hard about this?
>>1537531if Ishikawa is in charge, and we're going to wrap up this entire thing, it means there will be little to no filler in Endwalker's MSQ. just food for thought. i imagine we'll be told we need to go to the moon in 5.5 and start working on the space dorito, with Endwalker starting with us blasting off
>>1537536you have autism.
>>1537534you're paublo.
>>1537536there are dragons of sorts on the first. ran'jit's buddy, the gwibers. its also plausible that a similar fighting style evolved on its own to counter large flying beasts, like say, Zus
>>1531970ga bu? please?
>>1537841The credits of Endwalker will have Ga Bu and Lyse singing while on top of the Zenos tower
>>1537856man... bringers was as close to perfect as this team could hope for until they shoehorned shitty shitty fang fang into the voice acted bin
>>1537841>3 hours laterNOOOO I HAVE TO BUMP MY DAILY FFXIV THREAD OR IT WILL DIE. I GOTTA SAY SOMETHING FFXIV RELATED THOUGH.lmao
>>1537864The voice direction was really off in 5.4, if it isn't any better in 5.5 I'll just switch to JP.
>>1537875Angry that you couldn’t kill this thread Pablo?
>>1537899Whoa now, get him too riled up and he might spam the board in an autistic fit!
>>1537875first time in vg miss
>>1537883i watched it in all languages right after. might switch back to German like i had it after lyse talked too much
>>1537908You mean like he will anyway?
>>1537899I'm Barry.
zenos and asahi are boring as fuck.
>>1538063NOOOO I NEED A VILLAIN WITH A SENSITIVE SIDE NOOO EMET SAVE ME
>>1538067nice try spic.
>>1538071Am I right?
>>1533665Arenvald probably dies. One of the lines in the trailer sounds like it's from him and sounds like he's trying to pep fordola up as he's dying.
>>1538078I know they wouldn't. But it would be cool if he fucked Fordola and they have a kid that's born at the end of endwalker.
>>1535625You've got literally a week.>>1538086Yeah, I somehow don't see that happening. Would certainly be a surprise if it did. I suppose it's not totally impossible though
>>1537883Was basically a lack of voice direction since everyone was recording at home.They did confirm that 6.0 was back in studio, so they'll likely be back to normal for endwalker.
>>1538086arenvald doesnt deserve a bastard. he needs to live.
>>1538104IKIRU AND MARRY AINAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
>>1537864agreed. lyse will save us though .
>>1531970This game has a plot?
>>1538110Assuming you aren't shitposting, yes. It's kinda one of the main draws
>>1538104
>>1537519>>1537528Noise is the set up for the next arc.this is quintessential story telling.They set up noise for next arc, it may be the reason, but it wont come into play with Endwalker most likely, mainly because it would be shit to set up a new villain starting from 6.1, it would kill any hype whatsoever as they would go back to a story telling point where they would have to build the threat over patches with scions and everyone else slowly finding out about new bad guy.Besides, noise is a purely Yoshi creation, not a 1.0 leftover, so he have no quarrels with wanting to end his step child already like he does with crystal gods.
>>1538197hopefully no more eorzea. new shard again or time travel or new planet.
Why does Soken keep running the vocal tracks in his songs through some ungodly filter that makes them completely unintelligible
>>1538269Its his style
You may add one skill to your main class in an attempt to make it more interesting than it is now beyond being a simple damage button. What do you do?
>>1538298Red mage gets a self buff that consumes all of the greater mana, giving a different buff depending on which mana was consumed.
>>1537290Hegel wins again baby
>>1538269ngl mate, this modern jrock take is horse shit.But be glad he didn't put his dubstep remixes in game...https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dRkyjUFBMbE&t=60shttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wq4VeBSn0HA&t=41sMixed by: Soken
>>1538298Give GNB the Draw + Junction skill from PVP
Why does /xivrpg/ like XIV content creators so much?
>>1531970No one is gonna die. Fucking wild prediction about the story where almost no friendly character dies I know but pussy japs are too terrified of even slightly upsetting the playerbase.
>>1538687Shut the fuck up Pablo. You'll have character deaths and you'll like it.
>replace Zenos with ValensFixed 5.5 and Endwalkers
>>1538875put fandaniels in a completely new character as well and you can have my money good sir.
>>1537536The First has 'dragons' that are more like highly evolved scalekin. There are also dragons in the New World which according to the BLU guide there's a current debate over regarding if they're actually dragons or also just evolved scalekin. Interestingly enough, actual dragons also have a natural ability to mentally dominate scalekin so there could be a connection either way.
>>1538912cringe as fuck.
>>1538912kino as fuck.
before lizards and buns came along. was it easier to have full cat parties? everytime i think im about to get 8 cats one of them is a stupid femra.
>>1531970I'm genuinely expecting no one to die, maybe a fakeout or two, but no deaths.could be wrong, but everyone was banking on people dying in 4.5 and everyone came out of that just fine.
>>1538912That's a digimon.
>>1539014They’ll kill off Tiamat and potentially Fordola. Those are my predictions, I doubt any of the main main cast will die.
>>1539087Fordola's coming with us in 6.0 because she can resist the 5G towers. Thancred and Urianger are in Garlemald right now so we're going to need a tank trust.
>>1531970exactly zero important people will die. maybe a fakeout until 5.55 but that's it.
>>1539137G'raha
>>1539204Graha is losing his powers. Thus will manifest as him switching to black mage
>>1539210Yeah sure. Just like yshtola has to be careful about using her aether sight.
>>1539252I think people put too much stock in that statement. Using any magic at all 'uses up your life force'
>>1539262Not quite. Conjury, white magic, and black magic all draw on ambient aether. Thaumaturgy and red magic draw on extra aetherial reserves that are held within you but are not part of your body's aetherial make up, which is what the THM quest line talks about. The thing that was killing Sylphie, and also most like Y'shtola, is that she was drawing from herself instead of ambient aether and the level of aether those conjury spells use is too much for internal reserves, so they instead shifted to drawing on the body's aether.
>>1539274Yshtola is exactly the sort of person who would be aware of that and Matoya being concerned was more motherly than being founded in reality
>>1539279Yeah, and she mentions drawing on ambient aether for her spells in Heroes' Gauntlet too so she'll probably be fine unless the aethersight is some hyper specific spell that can only draw on the body's aether for some weird bullshit reason.
>itt we pretend the game has deeper stats/mechanicsWith diamond in its name you think it'll be more resistant to physical type attacks? I'd imagine people are going to want Red Mages in their party to buff melee jobs with elemental buffs. The Amal'ja dungeon looks like it'll have a ton of fire type damage considering their primals type. Expect Fire Resist materia to skyrocket in price.
>>1539296That all sounds incredibly retarded.
>>1539296Diamond is in the air so he might be classified as a flying enemy. Might want to bring a MCH for the bonus against that.
>>1539296Sounds tedious
>>1539296>having to meld different materia just to run a story dungeonGod that would be awful
>>1539303True. Does their Resistance weapon grant any elemental buffs? >>1539305Gunbreaker would be fantastic for that dungeon. They can Draw fire resist from mobs and Junction it to themselves. Hell if they have Scholar as their subjob they can spread that resist to allies.
>>1539296I'm so happy the game isn't like that
>>1538915why does this seagull feel like it was ported from another gameI know they dont stylize every animal minion you get but I cant help but feel like it's not polished as much as they usually are.
>>1539305Maybe if running the dungeon was relevant for farming parties then perhaps what you said might come to pass. But this is FFXIV we’re talking about. If its not given to you on a silver platter then its too hard period
>>1539304>>1539305>>1539404I am genuinely curious what sorts of rpgs these posters enjoy.
>>1539552Witcher III, Cyberpunk, Skyrim, the usual classics.
>>1539554All those things have the same mechanical complexity anon was describing I’m pretty sure.
>>1539547Maybe they should bring back chest rewards based on time. Make it pf only so that cancer can stay there.
>>1539597Bring back the optional secondary objectives too.
>>1539552Not the ones that require you to go through tedious shit like arbitrary grinds just to be able to enjoy the actual content.
>>1539614>situational gear and abilities that you consider and may help you when coming up against a new challenge>tedious shit, arbitrary grindJust admit you don't like RPGs.
>>1539572They have the same mechanical complexity of fighting overworld mobs as a WAR.
>>1539614So you don’t like rpgs?>>1539625Why lie? Just admit you are wrong.
>>1539635Name one complex mechanic in Skyrim, Cyberpunk, or Witcher 3. I'll wait.
>>1539614>oh my GOD what is this stupid bullshit?! fire enemies are weak against water?! what the fuck?! this is just pointless arbitrary bullshit for autists just let me cast the heckin fire spell on whatever enemy i want i'm sick of this gatekeeping!!
>>1539641They have actual stats that affect gameplay in a myraid of ways, actual gear, actual abilities, buffs and status effectsMore importantly you have a choice in how any of those things develop
>>1539657Good point, I kneel.
>>1539620>>1539635>>1539652>Nuh-uh, you don't get to experience this content if you don't spend hours on end farming this one 1% drop item and 300 stacks of resources. Now that is what RPGs are all about, choice! But don't forget to go on the internet to see what the best meta comp and gear are or you're not getting in my party.
>>1539667>Nuh-uh, you don't get to experience this content if you don't spend hours on end farming this one 1% drop item and 300 stacks of resources.When did anon mention anything like that? Take your meds.
>>1539667>Now if you'll excuse me, I'll go farm this piece of gear that will be completely worthless by the next patch.
>>1539667I don’t remember saying anything about 1% drop rates.
>>1539667>I’d rather tediously farm the same exact fight in the same exact way every week for bragging rights
>>1539667>*spends a month grinding TEA to get... nothing...*
>>1539674>>1539684>>1539686>Nooooooo where's my carrot? How can you expect me to enjoy something if I don't get a shiny reward at the end?
>>1539667Its funny anon makes fun of this since if I compare it to basically any final fantasy game nobody really ends up with the same exact build or party when they play FF games. Even in gacha rpg games people get really creative since they can’t always conform to the “meta” without spending money. I am reminded of how I never build my characters the same exact way everytime i play ff3, ff5, or bravely even if my builds end up looking similar everytime
>>1539694>How can you expect me to enjoy something if I don't get a shiny reward at the end?
>>1539684As opposed to farming 6 sets of elemental gear to switch on and off doing the same fights? Besides, if you want this style of gameplay it exists in other games, you can play those.
>>1539696>I never build my characters the same>but at the end they are similarlol
>>1539698>>1539686Getting kinda mixed arguments there
>>1539699Who exactly suggested this? This doesn’t even happen in FFXI. Why do you always wildly exaggerate?
>>1539701TEA weapons are entirely cosmetic. The only thing they do is shine. It's not anything that's actually useful or anything that builds your character in any way.
>>1539700Similar is not exactly the same. Maybe instead of white mage as a healer I used salve maker instead.Or maybe instead of using swordmaster as my tank I opted for using a traditional knight instead.
>>1539719so, there is really only an illusion of variety. you still do the same shit, but with a slightly different look. probably even same gear.
>>1539724I don't think you've ever played FF5 or Bravely.
>>1539726I have played 5 extensively and seen many people do challenge playthroughs. A lot people do shit like carry shit classes with dancing dagger for most of the game. Not really innovative.
>>1539706Most people won't clear Ultimates for the reward. It's not like you can display your three weapons or title at once. They do because the content is enjoyable in itself. There's nothing wrong with not wanting the devs to lock valuable or meta gear behind a specific content. I've farmed Heroes' Gauntlet dozens of time for the TEA BiS and it was a shitty experience.
>>1539724You haven’t played any of those games so why are you in an rpg board?White mage in bravely has direct healsSalve maker mixes two of several material items bought with currency for a variety of effects, one of those being healing.Spiritmaster doesnt directly heal but mitigates a ton of damage, manipulates BP and with proper setup can nullify all done to you in a turn.Bishop has direct heals but they are percentage based instead of based of states.Wizard can transform any magic in the game be it status, a buff, a debuff, a heal, or damage into a 3 turn dot, a physical attack hitting your defense instead, an AOE, a shield buff that activates the spell everytime its hit.I think you need to try more games before ridiculing someone anon.
>>1539754Don't forget Exorcist rewinding damage.
>>1539736It shows you havent played many rpgs dont worry about outing yourself on that.
>>1539754So, healers heal, but with different resources. Wow! Also, work on your English a bit and get back to me bub.
>>1539761They heal through entirely different mechanics that interact with characters and other mechanics in different ways.
>>1539761>ad hominemYou lost
>>1539764>spend MP to heal>spend item to heal>spend other resource to healMan, so many unique options.
>>1539761Out of all of those only white mage and bishop are considered healers. If I wanted I could make my main dps into something that heals the party with their damage
>>1539767You are contradicting yourself. Just give up
>>1539770Yeah, I bet. Healers are generally an unneeded thing with enough damage anyway. Most games you can get busted enough to not need healing before your team burns everything to the ground.
>>1539552I like all kinds of RPGs, but I don't like "you need this piece of equipment to win the fight" type of design in any game.In FFXIV I just want to run the new content with my friends as the jobs we like to play. I think it's fantastic that you can run even challenging stuff like Savage with next to no grinding.I understand some people want to get rewarded for good preparation, but personally I wouldn't want that sort of thing in the game
>>1539767>spend MP to heal>do percentage based heals and increase the percentage if you cast the same spell successively>pause all damage and status for a turn>rewind an entire turn including>combine items to heal, nullify damage, or double max HP>>1539770Spiritmaster and Salve-maker are definitely healers too. But you're right that you can do a set up where offensive mages or Dark Knight can heal your party and blast the enemy at the same time. Goes to show how many options there are.
>>1539778Rewinding a turn does sound interesting, assuming game AI will do something different. Spamming heals as outlined by the other options does not. Whether you're healing with MP or potions, there is no difference except maybe numbers.
>>1539778Salve maker is not a healer it is a hybrid job.Spiritmaster is supportive buffer, none of its main abilities heal unless we are talking about BD2 and even there its more of a buffer than anything and it obtains healing abilities through its sub job.
>>1539754I like thefigure out the logic -> excecute the group dance -> optimize rotationfights in FFXIV. They're what the game is about to me, and adding a lot of build variety would only work against their design
>>1539777I have no problem with your assesment but that doesnt mean the game has to be rid of any and all of its rpg mechanics. You can have an rpg that isn’t grindy.
>>1539783There is a difference because healing is healing. You can’t change what it literally does, restore your hp, but you can change how you reach the end result. More importantly, outside of bishop and white mage the rest of the healer capable jobs mentioned in that post do other things which means you don’t need a direct healer and it makes things more interesting.
>>1539819Have you played Nioh? I like the games, but I would prefer if they just completely removed the equipment system, stats and skill trees. That would mean the games wouldn't really be RPGs anymore, but I don't see any inherent value in them being ones.On the other hand, I know that many Nioh players love thinking of builds and optimizing them.This sort of thing seems to be just preference with no objective answer, but I'm glad that FFXIV seems to mostly cater to my preference
>>1539855Not trying to insult you or anything when I ask this but...If you truly have no interest in rpgs why are you in this board to begin with? Mostly curious because it seems contradictory to me. As to respond to your post directly, you have a point but final fantasy XIV is considered an MMORPG and it has no rpg mechanics. FINAL FANTASY is considered to be an RPG series and FFXIV doesn’t follow this trend at all anymore. The problem lies more in what the typical player drawn to the game will expect rather than what a tourist who heard about the game would expect.
>>1539770>tfw no BLM Nu Mou Fuck this gay Earth. Why did the Nu Mou have to be a beast tribe instead of a playable race? Would’ve mained BLM Nu Mou.
>>1539866I guess it's sort of a paradox that I love RPGs, but not what's usually considered RPG mechanics.Final Fantasy is among my favorite series, and one of the reasons is probably that you very rarely need to think about how you build your characters at all. I'd say I've completed most of the games without looking at the stats page even once. You can optimize your characters in VI for example by having the right espers equipped at level-ups, but I would like the game much less if it actually demanded you to do that at any point.Of course, you could have the same sort of optional optimization mechanics in FFXIV too. But to me the key factor here is that it's a multiplayer game. I would feel that I'm dragging my friends down if I was playing an unoptimized character in a Savage fight, but then again doing the optimization would be something that I don't enjoy very much. If that was the case, I would just stop playing the game
>>1539897>dragging my friends downI don’t really fault you for thinking this but I do fault the community. Heavily. I think FFXIVs community is a disgusting cesspool of garbage. I implore you to change this mindset of dragging your friends down due to not having the best equipment or optimized substats.Ever since HW specifically when they changed scholars speed buffs, FFXIV has been the most heavily overbalanced game I have ever played with extremely little variance in jobs. Everything was viable, any party build as long as you conformed to the role setups and ilvl. You need to stop listening to the autistic raiders that think a 500 dps difference is unbalanced as fuck.
>>1538937Meh aside from looking like a jet I don't really see much of Jade in the design, just a mix of ZERO and regular VII Bahamut. Which is depressing because Jade's design is fucking gorgeous and I was hanging onto the hope that it'd show up somehow.
>>1539910doing 20% less dps is unbalanced.
>>153991520% less dps how? You are literally pulling that number out of your ass
>>1539918going by medians on log websites it's more like 15ish percent, up or down a little depending on fight. but that's quite a huge difference. No classes in the game have any utility that makes up for that loss.
>>1539855As much as I like to fuck around with different builds in single player games, a multiplayer game like XIV is a different beast.People are going to optimize no matter what, even in a single player game. But in a multiplayer game a dev has to either balance around everyone playing to the meta and make shit inaccessible to worse builds, or balance around the "average" build and make shit easy for meta builds. Not to mention the culture of kicking anyone that doesn't follow the meta that will emerge.No one has to like it, but looking up meta builds online has gotten easier and easier to the point where people will do it for every single game. I honestly think that XIV making most stuff retard-proof in that regard isn't the worst idea. Especially from the perspective of a business that wants to keep the greatest number of people subbed as possible.Now it's very easy to sit back and say "oh the devs should balance 500 different possible builds so that there is no meta" It's a lot harder to actually do that. Even if build #2 preforms 99% as good as build #1, people will mostly play build #1 in a muiltiplayer context.In single player, go wild and fuck around because no one can stop you. In multiplayer I think the considerations are very different.
>>1539910As the game is now, I don't feel like I need to have optimized stats. But if there were significanly more things like that to consider as many in the thread seem to be suggesting, it would be more likely that having the wrong equipment or job composition would be an actual detriment. And that's the sort of thing I wouldn't like to have in the game
>>1539935The proper way to do it is to create varied content that sometimes benefits some jobs, and then other times benefits other jobs. That's the entire point of a class system in the first place, that different classes excel in different areas. In a game where you can swap jobs at will, they should be taking advantage of that.
>>1539935There will always be a meta and in a multiplayer game with classes its a death sentence to make every class the same. Thats exactly what FFXIV is doing right now since everyone has the same utility within a role.
>>1539964So then when duty roulette puts you into a dungeon that wants a SCH and you're WHM and you get votekicked what then?
>>1539987Even in ARR when the game had a semblance of stuff like that it was never an issue or required. I would also think that they wouldn’t put content like that in duty roulette for very obvious reasons.Roulettes are a stupid idea from a design standpoint either way but thats a whole different can of worms.
>>1539987That's a problem with the community, not game design. You're basically saying that we can't have proper RPG mechanics because you might run into a group of hyper autistic diaperfags who are trying to optimize a dungeon run but for some reason didn't grab a fourth member.
>>1539996If it's a big enough difference to notice people will bitch and moan, if it's not big enough to notice why bother?If it wasn't for roulettes no one would fucking do the old dungeons and any new player would eat shit. Like how no new player is going to see Coils if they don't have a level 80 friend or two to carry them unsynced.At some point people's wishlist for XIV really looks like a different game entirely.And I realize how much I'm sounding like an XIV shill so I want to be perfectly clear that I don't think no customization is a good idea in and of itself. But I think it makes sense in the context of an online game that wants as many people playing as possible.Experimentation can be fun, but no one fucking experiments. People generally just follow either what the internet tells them is the meta, or the bare minimum. Just look at how many people don't use essences or lost actions in Bozja content.
So real talk, how do I start to stomach Stormblood. I just felt so complete after Heavensward and I don't give a fuck about Ala Mhigo.
>>1540032Just look forward to Ishikawakino when you start dealing with pic related.
>>1540037Will we ever see him again?
>>1540040Really hope not. What a cuck in the end.
>>1540020I'm saying that "hyper autistic daiperfags" are a consequence of how people play games in 2021 and can not be avoided in any large enough game community.
>>1540040This is the finale, so we'll see him again soon.
>>1540024I’ll stop you right there and tell you that your reasoning is a bandaid for the games own shit design.Its Yoshidas own fault that old content is abandoned and you need something like roulettes to do them, hes the one that decided to treat the game like a mobage kusoge that powercreeps every other month.Second, roulettes purpose is to make old content still relevant but even during ARR content is meant to have easier versions that aren’t meant to be difficult and can be cleared by monkeys while powercreep makes things like coil clearable by monkeys so its okay to put that in a roulette.Third, gatekeeping is not a bad thing like you think. One of the biggest problems of FFXIV is that it lacks a filter, and thats exactly why the community is a pile of filth. Even WoW had filters.
>>1540042he speaks the truth
>>1540044I'd argue that it's not shit design because it accomplishes the goal of forcing people to play old dungeons.Do those old dungeons suck ass to play through? You bet.And "mobage kusoge powercreeps" are going to happen in absolutely any long running game. From board games to video games. Even if you make some super complex system of this gear gives 1.05% haste and this one gives +13% crit rate or whatever people will either just google XIV best build and only farm the gear they need for that meta build, or they won't farm anything and just work with handouts.Randomly raving about XIV's shit community doesn't mean anything at all. Because every single videogame has either a shit community, or a dead community, or both.
So is Stormblood the worst Expansion?Also how many lala's were cucked by Raubhan for him to be considered the Bull of Ala Mhigo?
>>1540079>So is Stormblood the worst Expansion?Storywise, yes.
>>1540073You are wrong. FFXI didn’t have straight upgrades it had sidegrades. Thats why people still did sky even when the game was on its fourth expansion. The only reason FFXIV does the powercreep system is because they intentionally and unecessarily designed it that way. Roulettes wouldn’t be necessary otherwise. In other words the reason roulettes are shit is because vertical progression is shit from a design standpoint it doesn’t fucking work on a long running game unless you intentionally want to make it play like shit. Keep in mind I am not talking about the idiots that fall for this shitty design and keep up with the game either way, I know the community is shit you don’t have to tell me that twice.
>>1540090>Thats why people still did sky even when the game was on its fourth expansion.Forget Sky, people were even still doing level 30 BCNMs.
>>1540090I find the number crunch hilarious because the overflow issues would've been entirely avoidable with horizontal progression.
>>1540139but how i get stronger if number not get bigger
>>1540157Horizontal progression is a meme. Being locked out of something because you don't have the right item is retarded.
>>1540166Horizontal progression is a meme because it becomes vertical sooner or later.Some nerd is going to math out the optimal gear and that's all most people will care about.
>>1540166>Being locked out of something because you don't have the right itemThat's not how horizontal progression works.
>>1540184Oh sorry, you didn't get the item that reduces your cooldown? Sorry, your team can't win this fight with you.
>that lala tank who complaints in DR about DPS not using or doing LB late>someone in our group did it after the third boss' four temperature swords, triggering the tank into complaining>tank then does LB 1 out of spite on the last boss whenever the first bar fills upYeah, sure. Let us activate that LB when the bosses do mechanics that can kill the LB user because they are stuck in animation, or the entire raid when a mage blinds. Frankly I have never heard anyone complain about not using LB in DR before this child.
>>1540189Thats not how horizontal progression works
>>1540222That seems to be how it works from here. Missing the item that modify's your stats/skills to beat the boss, you wouldn't be able to beat it without the right setup. I wouldn't mind having my mind changed or corrected.
>>1540226Have you ever played a game with horizontal progression? Even in FFXI or everquest if you didn’t have the best equipment that didn’t mean you couldnt do the high end tier boss. That wasn’t an excuse to have shit equipment but it didnt mean you need to have the best either. Its comparable to ilvl progression except your gear doesn’t become useless. You have a completely skewed viewpoint on what we’re talking about for whatever reason. I did not get kicked from sky parties because I didn’t have an entire haste setup or because i didn’t have the body piece that boosted barspells on white mage.
>>1540236Maybe I've just been playing vertically for too long. I just don't see why you would take someone lacking the equipment to do their job, or like, if they can do it without the gear, what's the point of the gear?
>>1540236>have completed bravura>can do insane amounts of damage to shiva because fell cleave/inner beast becomes charged with fire elementIs that how it works?
>>1540247Taking FFXI's Ninja as an example, it innately can perform as a fast physical attacker, a magic attacker/debuffer, and has a spell that guarantees dodges against physical attacks. So by equipping a WAR subjob for Provoke, NIN can use that dodge spell to become a very effective tank. Horizontal gear progression would mean they can get gear that can push them in any of these directions. The NIN wouldn't NEED any specific gear to function as a tank, but getting more evasion, enmity, and spell interruption gear makes them much more effective at it.
>>1540247The gear is the reward. Byakkos haidate was one of the best pieces of gear you could have on most melee jobs in FFXI. Does this mean they needed it to be viable? No it was the reward you got for working for one.I’ll use my main in ffxi as an example. It took me a hot minute to get the best body piece for summoner, yingyang robe. The rest of the time i used a level 50 chestpiece that was essentially the third best thing to have
>>1540251No tho i cant tell if this is a legitimate q
>>1538724>N-No they'll die for real this time!Let me guess, some B tier character like Arenvald that everyone totally cares about dies? Fuck off Shameel.
>>1540259>trying to collect gil for all the elemental staves and the Austere pieces I needed>looking at Vermy cloak prices
>>1540257>>1540259That clears things up a bit, that sounds kind of interesting to try. I don't know if we'll see anything like that as the game's kinda set in stone. Lost Actions seem to be somewhat similar.
>>1540262It's legit. I'm curious as to what horizontal progression would look like in XIV.
>>15402751.0 had some of it. Like you know those macahuitl type weapons PLD has? Those were so GLA had a source of blunt damage to use against things like skeletons, with the intent being that you'd switch based on the enemy. AF gear also gave specific job bonuses, like Gae Bolg boosting Jump damage.
>>1540284I'm aware of that. Our current relic weapons need something like that, otherwise they're just glowsticks. Back to horizontal, how does it work? Is it gear that has the same stats as older gear but with some sort of secondary effect that is needed to clear current content?
>>1540303Basically the item level of the gear wouldn't usually grow, but the stat spread would be different and rarer gear like relics and raid gear would have secondary effects that might alter how you play or be beneficial to specific fights. If I were going to fit some kind of horizontal progression into XIV without totally redesigning it, I'd have you learn traits from gear. Like say if you spiritbonded SMN's Apocalypse relic, you'd unlock a toggleable bonus trait that boosts DoT damage. If you spiritbonded an Ifrit weapon you could unlock something that adds fire damage to your attacks. Then assign each trait a point cost. With armor you can do things like spiritbonding a piece of Dreadwyrm gear boosts resistance to fire or dragon enemy attacks.
>>1540323I see. So that means with our current design of end game gear (savage, crafted, relic, and normal) would have the same stats but varying secondary effects. Then what about dungeon gear? Should they fall under the same catagory as relic wherein you have to grind a dungeon to get it or should it just be basic with no secondary stats?
>>1540341>Then what about dungeon gear? Should they fall under the same catagory as relic wherein you have to grind a dungeon to get it or should it just be basic with no secondary stats?I would think that rather than full sets you might have one or two new pieces available that might potentially be interesting, but may not be compared to what you already have. Like maybe from Heroes' Gauntlet you could get a piece of the Berserker's gear that could boost one of WAR's berserk abilities.
>have friend join the game>explain all mechanics and tips for the game>doesn't listen to shit>teach friend how to manipulate and use MB for profit>retarded buys a shit ton of iron ore and floods the market with all 40 slots between his retainers below vendor price thinking he is doing some genius move>facepalm and explain how dumb he is being, tell him i'll buy his ore so he doesn't lose his gil with his stupidity and that he should not do it again>"omg my iron ore is selling, i'll put in some more" pours another 40 slots of 99 stacksWhy are people so dumb?
>>1540275Alright I’ll add more to my previous post.That level 50 chestpiece? It was called austere it added a -avatar perpetuation cost to your summons and was a summoner only piece of gear, it also had a head piece that was essentially the second best thing you could use on summoner. Now why was it third best? Avatar perpetuation cost was important for summoner since your mp drained as you kept an avatar out, this didn’t matter much for the avatars you used for big effects or damage like ifrit or garuda but still made a nice difference when you wanted to keep them out for their passive buff. The best thing about it tho is that there was an avatar called carbuncle that with the right pieces of gear that weren’t that bad to obtain could become a free costing avatar. If you had vermillion cloak then you got mp refresh instead which negated the perpetuation cost as well, in carbuncles case it could overflow causing you to get a 1mp tick refresh with carbuncle out peretually. To drive my point home, I essentially used something that effectively put me at a disadvantage compared to summoners who had vermy cloak and I still did sky. Eventually I got yingyang robe and it was the best feeling ever as its essentially vermy cloak but better and smn only. And you know what? I still got a vermy cloak later when i started to play scholar, because that piece of gear was universal and the best refresh piece for a lot of classes.This is how I imagine horizontal progression would look like. It doesn’t even have to be on a grand scale either, i was satisfied with just having things like disease and slow in arr.
>>1540346>>1540358Interesting. That would solve the stack overflow we have from vertical progression. And now there's the topic of subjobs we have to take into consideration. We can be overpowered with out enemies being overpowered.
>>1540348
>>1540348Stonks is a state of mind. Does anyone have that pic of /biz/ giving bad advice when materia was being changed?
>>1540413obviously, any time the devs mention they're going to change how consumeables work, it means they're going to make them super easy to get. so if they mention materia again, you SELL
>>1540348You should go to the casino with him and hit the roulette wheel. He'd probably bet on every number, win every time and act like hot shit like he's just found a way to cheat the system, then get angry and confused when he runs out of money.
>>1540453depends. are there roulette wheels that don't have 0 or 00 on them?
>>1540453No doubthe also thought the best way to lvl was spamming msq roulette because he saw he gained a lvl going there without reading that the bonus is once per day.
Anyone got any cool sam glam suggestions? Would like to change it up for endwalker. Please no Genji, been wearing it for years.
>>1540693I like the XI collab armor.
>>1540699is that an all right look for dudes?
>>1540703Yes
>>1540693I think the Mhach gear looks awesome on both SAM and MNK. There’s a dyable recolor available for crafting.
>>1540708what's it called? not familiar with the gear name.
>managed to get work off tuesdayMy body is ready>>1540693One samurai glamour I used for a while is most of the Dohn Mheg/Matoya's Relict armor but get the Althyk's Cuirass of Striking with Wolfmarks and dye it as necessary. It looks pretty slick. Replace the gloves as you see fit though if you want something less armored
>>1540693Since I take it you actually want to look like a samurai>AF>Iroha's>Rakshasa>Genji fuck you>Ryumyaku>Kojin>Tactics Samurai>Arhat>Kirin osode>Doman haori>Eastern smock>Fuma>Tengu
>>1540771Yafaemi gear of something
>>1540079yes. msq is garbage.
>>1540037>Nothing for yugiri because she got murdered.
>>1540806>>Kirin osodeOh I really like that, super expensive though
>>1540693Man if I could glam the DRG/NIN Genji set on SAM I would do be so happy.
>>1540079its largest crime is that its not Heavensward. it has a LOT of filler, which ShB and HW both have but its hidden better. its also disjointed in not 2 but three ways, the Doma arc, the Ala Mhigo arc and the only thing in common between the two is Zenos, the third element. Didn't help that the Lyse 'reveal' is perhaps the stupidest thing in the MSQ period. It has a few good moments, like Pipin ex, Hancock and Alphinaud's interactions, Magnai and Sadu, Gosetsu at the dotharli funeral, the siege of Doma Castle, the aftermath of Castrum Abania. Its just overshadowed by the huge amount of garbage, like how Lakshmi and Susano appear, the Ruby Sea and Azim Steppe arc all together (lets go enslave a bunch of nomads!)Truthfully, it did plant a lot of seeds for content we like now, for example, Grynwhaet's fate was one of the first inklings of the empire's genetic fuckery, Doma gaining independence is what kicks off the Ivalice arc, Black Rose (relegated to just a aether current sidequest) etc.
>>1540856Dude, same.
>>1540858What's the Lyse reveal outside of the one in the pre-quests?
>>1540858the worst part of HW was that stupid shit in helping aymeric govern the god damn city and the word of the mother shit no one cared about.
>>1540913>the word of the mother shit no one cared about.That was extremely important though.
>>1540858lol no one gave a shit about grynwhaets fate or the empire.
to be fair stormblood 2.0 is pretty shit too.
>>1540919yeah, battle for azeroth was pretty shit
>>1540933agreed.
>>1540914it really wasnt"minfilia was taken to hydaleyn" could have been shown in a cutscene, not spending a whole patch on it
>>1540948That cutscene is when you're first told about the other shards and that Zodiark is the moon. It's pretty big.
>all the main characters have plot armor since Papalymo so the writers have to mass-slaughter incidental quest-specific characters
>>1540933BfA was shit enough to get me to stick with FFXIV
>>1540948That patch was great though.
gunbreaker ryne when?
>>1541233We'll see her grown up when we revisit the First for whatever reason post Endwalker.
>>1540693Odin's armor is pretty nice, makes me feel like a Garlean Legatus.
Would Zenos be more compelling if he fucking sliced off Lyse's head?
>>1541287no . hes not compelling at all for the final arc of the crystal primals. he served his purpose in sb being the writers self insert with a katana.
>>1541296But he's my friend.
>there are people who sell Materia to the Doman Enclave despite them still going for much more on the MBWho the fuck ever spread that troll advice?!
>allied beast tribes cancelled because YorHa gets a semi-beast tribe questlineIntredesting. Better have Nier weapons.
>>1541563bets on this clipping with the 2B headband?
>>1540693>Anyone got any cool sam glam suggestions?Use the only acceptable weapon
>>1540358>can clear all content with basic gearSo the gear is meaningless in horizontal progression.
>>1541571>add a Bokuto>Bancho outfit doesn't win the melee design contestjust fuck my shit up
I have a hard time telling where this is supposed to be. Forelands? Mists? I don't think it's either.
>>1541569Surely they'd have the foresight to make sure the two pieces from the same crossover not clip... right?
>The rare Pod and 2P minion now always dropsFinally I can get them.
>>1541624In MAYBE three months after everyone else who didn't have them outrolled you.
I really hope with Endwalker we get more Garlean styled gear and furniture. I absolutely love the aesthetic, and the fact that there really isn't any Garlean furniture for houses and apartments, is kind of annoying.I'm gonna be pissed if all the Dungeon armor is just leather and shit, instead of that intricate and interesting plate or whatever the fuck the Legatus use.
>>1539252Guys I'm DYING due to my blindness!!*Throws herself off a cliff*Did I mention that I'm DYING!?! In case you didn't know this, I'm DYING!Warrior of Lol I'm deeply wounded by Zeno's, but my sight is killing me more!I hope she really does die soon.
predict how they are going to streamline the jobs this time>AST>Balance, Arrow, Spire, Bole, Spire and Ewer all removed>all that's left is Lord and Lady>GNB>new cooldown that lasts 10s that lets you use Burst Strike 5 times in a row
>>1541597You’re not very smart. If you read the post carefully you will see that the armor piece it talks about was the third best for that job and had specific effects for it as well, thats not basic.
>>1541597No its more like the level 50 armor piece was like getting crafted gear in ffxiv while the yingyang robe was more like getting savage armor. Its the same exact shit as vertical progression except the effects of the armor aren’t just a generic attack and defense boost and the armor doesn’t become useless after every major patch.
>>1541736I can’t think of any more ways they can streamline scholar or white mage. Healer is already a destroyed role.
>>1541688>and the fact that there really isn't any Garlean furniture for houses and apartments, is kind of annoying.I believe the Chocobo seat actually has the Garlean symbol on the back.
>>1541609Looks like Churning Mists
>>1541836>the same exact shit as vertical progression>but it won't be outdatedWhat's the fucking point then? You have pretty much the same system, if not arguably worse as a lot of sidegrades barely relevant to even bother with in the first place, and your sole selling point of it is i can be done with gearing forever few months into a game lifespan.
>>1541942>whats the fucking point thenThe post also uses vermillion cloak as an example. He skipped it because the yingyang robe was better and could be gotten through effort instead of money. However, since he didn’t just play summoner he ended up buying vermillion cloak anyway because its useful for other jobs such as scholar and red mage and even things like paladin or blue mage as idle pieces. The game had a lot of pieces of gear you could get that were like that.>whats the pointObtaining gear and leveling in FFXI didn’t happen overnight like how it happens in FFXIV. Yingyang robe took effort to get since you compete with other summoners to fight the NM that drops it, I had to make a deal with another summoner to get mine by promising to help him get his afterwards with my own friends and giving him the time of death. He likely used Austere for a good while before finally getting the yingyang piece. Summoner also isn’t exactly the best example of gearswaps but while austere and yingyang were the best pieces to use as a general purpose, it was better to swap into something else for actually dealing damage but those pieces of gear were obtained by doing endgame content such as Bahamut or Dynamis. You could probably reach a point where you had “everything” in FFXI and the grind was over, but it was very unlikely you would ever reach that point due to having to compete with other people thats why the basis of FFXI was more midcore and not everyone had the absolute best gear on every armor slot.
>>1541942> and your sole selling point of it is i can be done with gearing forever few months into a game lifespan.Since everyone competes for the same drops this was never going to happen. You kinda treat gear progression in FFXI as getting to the baseline level of endgame ready with entry level gear then you slowly work towards the endgame gear you want thats better than what you might have. But even then that mostly works as a sidegrade because of how older pieces of gear can be useful for other jobs. For example vermillion cloak, it can be used by pretty much any mage but summoner, white mage and black mage have robes that are “better” because they provide the same refresh effect with stats and effects pertaining to them as opposed to just being as balanced as vermy cloak is. But jobs like scholar and red mage can still make use of it.The selling point is more that it creates a midcore audience since people settle for “average gear” rather than the absolute best gear since the grind for it is big. Why is a midcore audience good? Well for starters you wouldn’t have raid trannies gatekeeping people from joining statics because of their parse or a specific job or gear item level. Horizontal progression and midcore audiences also means old content doesn’t become irrelevant overtime.
Gentlemen, how do we fix battle mentors?I'd say remove the crowns on every mentor first, but make that icon unlockable. Give them a noticeable but not very desireable new icon, like a red dot or something.Then remove high tier raids and maybe EX trials from requirements.Next have a WP style system where you can commend only the mentors that have been in your instance. Make it so that we can commend multiple or even all mentors, giving them a point each and the mentor commedation window should stay even afer leaving instances.Then after gaining enough mentor recommedations you can get your crown and move on to higher instances where you could gain anoter type of mentor commendations. These should unlock a new (platinum crown) and some other reward(s).
>>1540693Makai manhandler's jerkin.
>>1542183>manhandler's jerkin
>>1542192Yes.
>>1541602so glad jojotards didn't get this
>>1542343I don't really care about JoJo I just want to make a sukeban thighlander.
>Adjustments have been made to the summoner job quest "To Be Second Best.">Players who accepted this quest prior to the release of Patch 5.5 must abandon the quest and restart it by speaking to Y'mhitra in Old Gridania (X:10.9 Y:6.3).Should I do it before the patch?
>>1542443Guessing they're adjusting it and/or removing fordola and what's his face bc one of them is fucking dying
>>1542443F
>>1542443>they're retconning job quests now for MSQ developments
>>1542469well summoner quest was shit so hopefully it'll be better
>>1542469>now
>>1542484wasn't retconned. he still lost control canonically against you
>>1542484That wasn't retconned. He dipped after the level 50 fight and spent the next few weeks/months/whatever running around Coerthas with the eye to distract Nidhogg's gaze.
>dying grasp>everyone's moderately dressed and wearing blackSprout got lucky today. It wasn't as amazing as af4 gear but it still gets the job done.
>>1542343>bancho = jojoyou are unironically worse than the jojofags
>>1542443RIP Arenvald
Count Durendaire custom deliveries means the plot line with Carvallian will finally be resolved right?
I wish we could've stomped that Blue Mage lala during the level 63 cutscene.
>>1542623I'm hoping for a happy reunion.
>>1542592it's clearly jojo inspired, therefore, trash.
I'm convinced that horizontal progression and subjobs would be easier for the devs to manage. Let the community figure shit out. Hells their engine can't even handle numbers.
>>1542654Why would they change the entire system 5 expansions in?
>>1542623Most certainly.
>>1542659They kinda did anyway
>>1542659Idk how to put it in words but the engine feels like it'll crack soon. If it can't process numbers then what'll happen next? I mean the hrothgar/viera issue with hats just seems liek an indication that the engine is holding back the devs. That or it's the suits upstairs.
>>1542654Why would new effects and abilities be less demanding than bigger number?Ideally another ARR level rework to take care of a decade of tech debt would be a better solution. But at that point you might as well just make a new MMO and call it FFXVII or something.
>>1542672You know, FFXIV isn't the only game that's had to do number crunches. Integer caps and stuff like that exist outside of the engine. The engine does have problems and it holds the devs back in some aspects, but remaking the game in a new engine is such a phenomenally large amount of work they might as well make an entirely new game. And variables having a capped limit isn't an indication the engine is bad. That's just how computers work.
>>1542649>it's clearly jojo inspiredhow so? it barely resembles anything from jotaro except maybe the tear in the hat, it's just overly stylized bancho outfit, jojo didn't codify bancho
>>1542689True. Maybe the sunken cost fallacy is getting to me. I took an exploratory nibble of XI and felt good getting my ass kicked by local mobs.
>>1542649>Everything is a Jojo reference lmaoooooooYou are the worst.
>>1542869show a bancho character it looks more like then. it's clearly supposed to be le wacky jojo character
>>1542649consider consuming different media
Monk should've gotten a stand. It'd be great for those moments where the boss is doing moves and melee can't get close to it. >Rhalgr's Reach>60 second cooldown>summons an aspect of Rhalgr that mimics your weaponskill attacks>only deals 50% of your damage but effects are still applied>each attack mimicked will drain your chakra by one>chakra does not regenerate from crits while the aspect is outIt needs a target to be summoned. That'll keep the jojo fags happy and city states uncluttered with Rhalgr aspects.
>>1542916That would be cool, but the most important thing MNK needs is its main iconic ability in the series: Counter.
>>1542927They already did and it was cut years ago.
>>1542937I know, it needs it back. SAM has a counter, MNK should have one tied to Riddle of Earth.
>>1542927Don't you mean Focus?That's what Anatman should've been, meditate for X second and then release it all into one giant punch. The more you meditated, the bigger the punch.
>>1531970Thannk god Zenos Kinos is still on the menu until the entire Endwalker MSQ.
Ever noticed how Mr.Happy and only him is always low-key bragging when he reads "news"?>Oh I have already this then I only need that and then I'm done>Oh I have done this so many times ez-pzy make sure to do it too>Oh I have made a video on this a long time ago
>>1542942That's likely getting cut in 6.0 too. Those are 3 buttons 90% of SAMs never press.
>>1542927>>1542943>no counter>no focus>no flying kick>no massive HP poolMNK is garbage.
>>1542916I agree. Melee jobs should get more range options. At the very least make shit like Enpi/Piercing Talon/Throwing Dagger not break combos.
>>1542964The positionals are fun at least. If they remove them MNK will permanently be in the gutter design-wise.
>>1542949Can someone explain to me why people think he's kino?>muh hunt>sitting in a chair>not doing anythingIt's boring.
>>1542958You've gotta find something to brag about when you're like 5'4".
>>1542958>watching mr brappy
>>1542971People complain about him so I can prove I'm actually very smart and cool by liking unpopular thing.That and fujoshits.
>>1542958He's an insecure little man, most of his "accomplishments" were just him getting carried by good players and he knows it.
>>1542971Literally everyone who likes Zenos plays with Japanese audio. His voice actor completely carries the character.
>>1542988His English voice actor is kino though.
>>1542973>>1542978Very sad considering he does it on the goddamn extreme dragon mounts in his recent two videos.
>>1542971I have a soft spot for calm and collected characters who occasionally go bonkers when their monomaniac tendencies catch up to them.He's fun as a trope but as a character he's garbage yeah.
>>1542978He's from New Jersey, they'll all like that.
>>1542971he's basically Kaiba, his autism knows no bounds>fuses with a fucking dragon because "fuck it">comes back to life because of echo shenanigans and just rolls with it>saves the world entirely by accident because it almost got in the way of his rematch with WoL>is willing to tear the cosmos apart purely so he can enjoy one more insanely kick-ass match with youthe only difference is that winning or losing doesn't matter to him, as long as you and him fight each other at full power, he gets everything he's ever wanted
>want to craft exarch gear for sale and maybe gearing some secondary jobs>forgot that I have to gather a billion "new" things to make the "new" material>haven't been bothered because there wasn't better crafter/gatherer gear to makeGod, I hate this.
>>1543028He's chasing the dragon and it's not gonna be like he wants it to be. That could be kino.
>>1542443That quest is actually really sweet and everyone should haul ass to do it before 5.5. Arenvald and four dollars are two of the few characters I care about anymore and their relationship is really nice but lol time to die for cheap drama sprinkles.
>>1543058>but lol time to die for cheap drama sprinklesThey probably just move Fordola out of her cell to some other location.
>>1543070This. It's weird that she's jailed in Ala Mhigo while she's supposed to be out and about hunting Primals.
which glowing samurai sword would be the cringiest?
>>1543139Nidhogg.
>>1543151Oh that is perfect.
>>1541624i literally got 2B and 2P minion on my first run,
>>1543028Zenos is so fucking based.
>>1542443This is Arenvald dead guaranteedHe is an NPC you need to talk to in the questWont make much sense him being there if he dies
>>1541705it hasn't been brought up aside from that one time, which makes me think there's nothing to it
>>1543235they've literally never done that for a character dying before though
>>1543235>Nanamo "dies" in ARR>go do the 50 CUL quest>she shows up all fine and dandyit's not like they ever gave a fuck before
>>1543254Yeah but they also already knew she wasn't actually dead. No point in changing that quest just for a few months and then putting it back.
>>1543258Well for some for relevance to plot they couldn't really change like Dragoon so they've basically canonised their timeframe. They don't really do that much anymore.
PogShark
>>1543235Damn, that'd be sad if he dies after all the shit he went through.At least we went treasure hunting together.
>>1542988Zenos Japanese VA is nothing special, pretty generic.
>>1543355JP voice fans like generic. Didn't you see them getting all giddy because Ardbert's voice was exactly like MUH FATESHIT? Japanese voice actors are trained to standardize their voices so the archetype is immediately recognizable to the mind of a salaryman whose brain is fried after a 16 hour shift. I remember when Asahi first showed up the threads were full of weebs creaming themselves because>WHOA HOLY SHIT THEY GAVE HIM THE GOOD GUY VOICE BUT HE WAS ACTUALLY BAD WTFFFFF BRILLIANT!!!!
>>1543266POGGERS
I enjoy jap voices but Final Fantasy will always be an english dub game. Probably has to do with the fact I was young when the voiced FF stuff started coming out.
>>1543254Yeah like the other anon saidAnd remember when in that lore interview they asked Yoship about Lahabrea's details then he basically said "shush" People were memeing about him being alive throughout the shadowbringers patch only to now see him be brought back for pandaemoniumThe point is they do these things for a reason, which basically points to Arenvald or 4$ getting to a point where their future state will affect that particular quest
>>1543375FFXIV is stylized to have an English dub. The Eorzean language is straight up English. Not translated into English like you'd expect from a lot of fantasy, but it's literally just English. The devs wanted that Shakespearean vibe that Matsuno also loves because they're all Matsunoboos.
this shit will never stop making me sad, i hate every chaartcter in this gmae
>>1543380>Emet-Selch smilingHe was a tsundere grouch
>>1543376that reminds mewill they delay the risingor make it a series of pre-EW vignettes about the so-called end of daysbecause while that would be nice, if there is some sort of good character coming out of the expansion they won't get something like hades' story until well into 2022
>>1543386>He was a tsundere grouchHe smiled and scoffed almost equally. The reasons behind them, irrelevant.
Does anyone still believe shoebill ISNT lahabrea?
>>1543378I can believe that.>>1543380I miss that grouch like you wouldn't believe. Thought he was going to be another one track villain like muh hunt but his dialogue was very fun. I wish we could've had more one on one conversations with him. >>1543394I still believe its a sliver of Emet's soul just chilling with us. That or its his pet he told to watch over us.
>>1543394The shoebill is just the devs fucking with the playerbase.
>>1543380GOD i want to fuck them
>>1543417AT THE SAME TIME
>>1543417Anon, Elidibus is a child...
>>1543376>>1543380Why do fan artists give Azem a white mask when he was part of the Convocation?
>>1543426That's Hythlodeus.
>>1543421lmaooooooo
>>1543387Is it weird that I can ONLY see Lahabrea as Thancred?
>>1543028So he's literally Tugoro?
Jesus that Gogo fight is something else.
>>1543552it wasn't too bad, probably would have had an easier time if I was in healer stance
>>1543394it's just a fucking shoebill retard. has nothing to do with emet or any other ascian. it is there for comedic effect.
>>1543552Now, don't forget to do the speedrun for the extra wand!
>>1543576I had to set it to healer and had an easier time.
>>1543582Its lahabrea.
>>1543586>pingleting the speedrun
Shoebill is the Mystery Light Nigga from 5.5.
>>1542971>bored with almost everything>most things are tedious bullshit>only comes alive while fighting>a good fight really invigorates him, sharpens all senses, gives purpose to what he's doing and not just going through the motions, like going from a world of black and white to a world of bright vibrant colorZenos represents the part of the playerbase that not only tries to play the game well but actually plays it as a game and not some bullshit erp friendship simulator for shut ins, that is why he is based
>two shakes of a hrothgar's tailFemhroths are needed.
>>1542592While Bancho didn't come from Jojo, you fucking know that if that armor was in the game there would be a never ending stream of jojo jokes about it. That's what people associate it with.
>>1543739hang yourself furfag
>>1543683>Being a poopsocker>ever based
>mfw texting my EB "I love you"
>>1543830>mfw she struggles to text you back while I'm railing her
>>1543837Unfathomably based.
>mfw the entire delebrum runThat was fun. Felt my noodle niggling during the final fight.
>>1543830based>>1543837unbasedwait no its a lalafell nvm swap those around
>>1543818doing stuff like duels is based. sitting in limsa and buying 153 fantasias over 3 years is not based.
>>1543876Hope you're ready to start hating the fuck out of it after having to run it 15 times for your relic.
>>1543896palace of the dead is verifiably faster. even at a 40% drop rate which is what i think it is its still faster. the real pain is already having an amaro. its not bad for tomes tho
>>1543896This didn’t happen to me cause I tried different jobs and builds with each run. Irregular tank remains the most fun.
>>1543901>Irregular tankTell me your secrets. Thought that shit was broken when I tried to use it because it gives you glass bones and paper skin and I would routinely get one-shot by raid wide AOEs.
>>1543889My wife is a highlander though if that makes a difference
>>1543911Does she look just like every other highlander with the same face and hair combination?
>>1543915I dunno
>>1543929that is super generic.
>>1543911It means she can handle my cock better.
>>1543929Looks like the same face at least. i can't blame them, Femlanders have exactly one good face and everyone uses it even NPC's.
>>1543907Play DRK.TBN is a godsend thanks to its short CD and will save you from any raidwide if used with a damage-reducing CD.If the boss decides to be an asshole and use two raidwides back to back you can use Living Dead as an emergency measure, granted your healers are watching the party’s health. At worst use potion and potion kit and you might survive.Use Banner of Noble Ends and Lost Font of Power since they align with Delirium and Fray respectively. Massive damage.
>>1543907>>1543946WAR works well too, you can double cooldown every single raidwide thanks to raw intuition which will keep you alive, then you can use shake it off or that one hp boost thing for avowed's unavoidable damage
zenos is queer like his fans.
Instead of getting EB'd to somebody I know, I pretend I'm EB'd to my character.
>>1543911HmmYou're alright.
>>1543901Irregular tank is fun but Lost Flare Star means casters are by far the best DPS, hands down
>>1544021You can only have one Flare Star up at a time though.
>>1543907You have to CD every single raidwide or you die. If you have a healer babying you with shields it can kinda work, but overall it mostly sucks because you put in like 2x the work of a skirmisher DPS to pull like 90% of what they do.Really Irregular's damage mod should be 125/150 instead of 90/108 but SE hates difficulty and fun so here we are.
>>1544021Isn’t Flare Star only worth using on BLM? The other casters suffer too much from starving on MP.
>>1544032SMN here, starving on MP is not an issue that even pops into my head. MP is barely a consideration on SMN to begin with so I could just pop lucid dream after Flare Star and keep on trucking. It's still almost definitely better on BLM though because of how many self buffs they have for magic damage.
Other than seraph strike what lost action should I use for DPS WHM?
>ARENVALD IS GONNA DIE>SMN QUEST RETCON SHOWS THATwait why cant alisaie die instead of arenvald?
>>1544050Alisaie isn't in the SMN quests. The one that's being changed features Arenvald, Fordola, and the irrelevant Lalafell from the Immortal Flames summoner squad.
>>1544052>>1544050Wait, what retcon is happening? Did they remove Arenvald from the 80 smn quest?
>>1544045Lost Font of Magic I guess
>>1544045Can healers use honored sac/noble ends?
>>1544054We don't know yet, but the patch notes say that the level 80 SMN quest is changing and that if you haven't finished it before the patch then you'll have to drop it and reaccept it.
>>1544059Huh. I guess this would fall outside of the category of "Quests are canon when they are current" if you consider the entire expansion to be the time period. I guess this is more proof that they don't have the entire storyline mapped out from the beginning of the expansion to the end. Not that that's usually an inherently bad thing.
>>1544057>>1544058See, this is why I asked. I don't know which one to use of those three.I'm wary of Font of Magic because Seraph Strike+raising randos already leaves me low on MPI guess Honored Sacrifice is the way to go then.>Why play a DPS healer? The rotation is dead simple and boringDoing dumb shit like topping DPS charts as a healer makes me happy.
>>1544066That wouldn't really be news, since they claimed as much around 5.3
>>1544070Don't think anyone was questioning you for playing dps healer. I do it while I'm lvling WHM.Just be careful with honored sacrifice if you are using profane essence since your healing will be garbage and honored sac hurts a decent amount if you aren't using pure duelist in DR.
>arenvald dies / sacrifices himself because????>wol primal killer and echo user and fordola with fake echo user have time to escape?>alphinaud is sad because of bad writing>fordola tells him to shut up and keep acting.
>>1544081I suspect Alphinaud is gonna less be sad and more say something tactless.
>>1544089no he was sad in the video we saw before dumb bitch put her filthy mhigger hands on my boy.
Most importantly this will mean that Fordola will be free for the taking.
>>1544205Why the fuck would you care about Fordola when Misija is sitting in a cell, shackled hands and feet
>>1544438he's obviously straight anon
>>1544439Low test*
>>1544438Wheyfu appreciator>>1544439woodplank fan
>a lot of the characters in the bozja field notes are dead as shit nowThat was fast, I kinda didn't give a shit about killing them in Delubrum, what are the chances they're coming back?
>>1544663never unless its a bad guy. misija will somehow get out of jail.
>>1543739Yes. Lion ladies would be nice.
>More Fordola bullshit to deal withShe's the worst and a waste of time. She should've lost her head in Ala Mhigo.
>>1544763the fake echo is stupid and cringe writing anyways.
>>1543896>Hope you're ready to start hating the fuck out of it after having to run it 15 times for your relic.I've done over 100 and still find it fun playing with different jobs and actions
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9gg7qEeY-W0
>>1544825This man makes me seethe and I'm not sure why.
>>1544825Why do you fags keep shilling this fucker?
>its another dungeon of a tank big pulling but doesnt know why>takes mobs about of aoes, doesnt use mitigations, just wants to sprint to finish a race. >name is ALLAN french fuckety face fuck. stupid fucking faggot tanks. i hate them so much.
>>1544700AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA>>1544838It's Meoni himself.
>>1545055>It's Meoni himself.It isn't, he'd never visit 4chan. He's too much of a sensitive pussy who can't take criticism.
>>1545092its an act, and ironic clicks are still clicks
Seriously, though. "Content Creators" need to fucking stop having spoiler footage in videos unrelated to the spoilers. There's always new or slow players who end up watching them.Just another reason why 93% of them suck. MMObyte is even worse since they do it in their MMO news roundup videos even when the spoiler is a week fresh.Of course our dear leader Meoni "I swear it's him posting, you guys" Whitetail is a special case of spoiler faggotry.
Is Doton slightly stronger than Raiton? I know on most bosses you don't move it because of risk the boss will move out and you lose potency, but on bosses that don't move, is it better to use Doton over Raiton? I thought that they both ultimately did the same damage, but both ninjas in the A4N fight I just did used doton since the boss can't move.
>>1531970She has a twin sister. The person who we see falling is not her, but her twin instead
>>1536043They are. Fuck you. You can try and push for non ERP shit but it wont work.
>>1545374No. Raiton is better since it takes 1 less mudra to use. Those other NINs were shit. The only time you use Doton against a single boss is pre-pull assuming your tank is willing to move the boss into your circle.
>>1537364By shilling endlessly until someone with autism joins in on their one note nothing personalities.
>>1545374>>1545402In A4N you can hit multiple targets with Doton if you position between the legs.
BLU friends I need your help. What's the highest ilvl dungeon Blue can solo and which role is better to mimic? I did Swallow's Compass with a healer mimic in 20 minutes solo, is it faster to go with dps mimic or tank?
>>1545406the answer is healer. and i believe the highest content you can solo is Tsukuyomi normal
>>1545406I think healer mimic is mandatory if you want to solo dungeons.You can't survive without spamming Pom Cure every other GCD.
>>1540543>tfw you knew someone who spammed the Alexander raids to level because it was a fast fight
>>1545406you can get away with dps stance for some of the earlier lvl 70 shit, I managed to do Skalla with dps stance, but otherwise, you will want healer stance
>>1541236>doing Eden raid>talk to teen Ryne>MSQ Ryne is an adultThat'd be stupid.
>>1545434>Do the DRG quests post Shadowbringers>Estinien gets possessed by Nidhogg
>>1545434I did the Coils story around 4.5.
>>1545446We really are in a time bubble
will we see them again?
>>1545483His daughter appears in one of the short stories.
>>1536043IT'S ALL ERP TRASH
Is it me, or does Sprint not work with Basic Instinct?
>>1545483what were these guys from again?
>>1545689Shadow of Mhach raid series.
>>1545691what the fuck ive played this game for like 400 hours and i havent done that yet
>>1545692You are but a bab.
>>1545687You mean it doesn't stack? Yeah most movement speed effects don't stack with Sprint (or each others for that matter).
>>1545692>he's not on hour 4000
THE HEARTS OF MEN ARE BLACK WITH CORRUPTION AND MUST NEEDS BE CLEANSED
>>1545841SEVEN SHADOWS CAST SEVEN FATES FORTOLD BUT AT THE END OF THE BROKEN PATH LIES DEATH AND DEATH ALONE
>>1545857OPEN YOUR EYES TO THE DARKNESS AND DROWN IN IT'S LOVELESS EMBRACE. THE GODS WILL NOT BE WATCHING
>>1545841>>1545857>>1545860Goddamn Orbonne will forever be king of all raids.
>>1545701>>1545750i only sub for a month per patch...
>>1545898Cringe faggot
>>1545495>They eventually get togetherNiceThat said, I wouldn't be surprised if they show up. Especially if we are taking specifically the Void Ark to the moon
>>1545495>leofard banged the thighlander
>>1545918We're going to the moon on a Ragnarok.
>>1545931Each region will contribute to the Ragnarok's restoration.
What's the point of augmenting my weapon if it isn't going to change my playstyle?
>>1546079e peen, what else
>>1546079You'll need it to get to the next step.
>>1546079It does change your playstyle.You unlock the fat parses perk and can now spec into bragging with orange/pink logs.
>>1546079big number + makes content go faster
haha fun
>>1546102If it was just 2 teams rather then 3 would Frontline improve?Because I like Hidden George but fucking loathe getting spitroasted again and again in Frontlines.
>>1546102>the Twin Badder fail yet again
>>15461152 teams means if one team is stomping games end faster which is good for both sidesfrontlines is frustrating because its a combo of RNG>haha enemy teams get all the node spawns right up their ass and you get fucking none all fucking gameand even if you get decent node spawns you can just get as you mentioned, both teams decide "fuck you, were only going for you" all game
>>1546115I like 3 teams because the team that is getting stomped hard can basically decide which of the two other teams wins or loses.
>>1546102Forced freelancer was absolutely fucking devilish
>>1545406Some dungeons are easier with tank mimic, most are easier with healer mimic. Sometimes the extra defense from tank mimic just makes things easier and means you can more reliably take spikes of damage, but usually the healer mimic is better because then you can just spam Pom Cure.
does anyone have a good idea/theory of what the new job will be? I'm assuming it will be another new take on an existing job, possibly from Tactics
>>1546264Yoshida has worn three grim reaper shirts at this point, and there's this thing that kinda looks like a scythe in the trailer. I'm thinking some kind of original job themed around reaping to go along with the game's longstanding theme of the sanctity of death.
>>1546271Can't wait for DRK 2
>>1546264Complete delusion on my part but I hope it'll be Beastmaster with Ran'jit as the inspiration. It would wield a scythe of course.The quest would start at level 70 in Kholusia as you encounter a young man who was supposed to be the next Eulmorian general but whose training was neglected by Ran'jit who was too obsessed with his Minfillias and the end of the world. You would find traces of Eulmore's history and learn the ropes and how to bind your own familiar along with him. The questline would also develop Ran'jit's character a bit more.
finally a winonly 79 more left
>>1546271>original jobNot a single job has been completely original. All jobs have history in Final Fantasy.The correct answer is Beastmaster.
>>1546271Either that or BTN is being upgraded to a full job and ALC are on suicide watch.I was really hoping for a hammer job desu. Scythe fighting looks goofy as hell on top of being impractical and maces are the one actual weapon type that still has no representation in the game outside of Gaia and maybe a few weapon skins.
>>1545302You know who doesn't suck Wesk Alber. You know who is a steaming pile of shit Desperius.
well this was a completely miserable day of pvp
>>1546488Same as every other day.
>>1546488You're gonna make it bro.
>>1546496i usually get significantly more wins than this
>>1545917t. nier faggot
>scythe fags are back with their delusions. BACK IN THE SHED WITH YOU WITH THE CHEMISTS AND DUAL PISTOL FAGS.
>>1546264My headcanon is Reaper where its a reverse RDMMostly melee attacks that build some edge meter and you cast some flashy dark spells which when you do it correctly it lets you do some powerful slash
>>1546623Just give us rune knight. no need to make things retarded.
>tfw shield all by itself in offhand armory chestAstrologian cards, Monk weapon, Ninja dagger, Bard instrument, Machinist lunchbox, Dancer chakram, and Red Mage focus.
>>1546714Prease undastand...
>>1546307It's not going to be beast master. They already set up that the weapon of choice for beast master is axe and shield.
>>1546655I think it will be and aesthetically it's going to be the ff5 mystic knight/minwu from 2. Sage is likely from Sharlayan which is likely going to be the big city hub. So it makes sense that the other class comes from Thavnair somehow. And the aforementioned aesthetic fits with Thavnair, it fits with the thavnairing sets we've gotten so far at least
>>1546762If Zenos is using the new job then it would also make sense to be from that area considering he learned how to fight in Corvos.
>>1546714Don't forget>Samurai sheathI've heard the off-hand weapon slot is a vestigial feature from 1.0 in the first place, but they really should have just phased it out by now if they were never going to do anything with it. PLDs might cry that they can't mix and match sword and shields anymore but that's a small price to pay for more inventory slots.
>>1546781Crafters and gatherers use off-hands too.
>>1546781At the very least they could cut the amount of offhand slots by half. Nobody needs that many offhand slots.
>>1546714>>1546781If only XIV was a real rpg. I wouldn't mind a couple of niche skills here and there but weapons having effects would be awesome.
>tons of liquor housing items>not even one (1) set of drinking glasses>not even single glasses by themselves
>>1546988You've clearly never RPed because everyone drinks straight from the bottle.
>>1546988There are sets of cups and glasses.
>>1547004Those aren't proper liquor glasses, no shot glasses, no scotch glasses, etc.
>>1547087A tankard and a wine glass aren't proper glasses?
>>1547169Not for hard liquors, no
>>1546758Ranjit had a scythe
gonna cringe like mad when the moon has a lunar tsukiyomi. these hacks keep bringing back shitty characters we dont care about like zenos, asahi and aymeric.
>>1547327Seethe harder.
>>1547335cope.
Does anyone actually fucking care about the FC airships and submersibles anymore? Yoshi clearly is never going to add the personal ones he had been talking about for fucking years now.
