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Imagine him looking at Iomedae and the incompetent Crusaders.
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>>1361129
>God so incompetent that he managed to get himself killed offscreen.
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>>1361148
Aroden is a human supremacist God and that cannot be allowed.
t. Pozzo.
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Arcane and divine spellbooks don't mix? Unfortunate. I wanted to play a Wizard Angel.
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>>1361129
How does this game run on a 4GB ram? Is it playable. I am thinking of getting it but the minimum requirements on steam say that you will need a 6GB ram. I played pathfinder Kingmaker and I was able to run it on High settings with no problems.
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>>1361239
>What is a Mystic Theurge.

Anon, there's an entire Prestige Class dedicated to that.
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Im actually losing my shit, how the fk do you get rid of demonic corruption debuff on companions. Resting at warcamp doesnt work. Resting outside doesnt work. Am I missing something or is this shit actually permanent.
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the leaked Demon Mythic path ending is metal as fuck
>under your leadership the demons overrun Mendev
>move southeast and conquer Numeria
>get their hands on the Numerian technology(cybernetics, robots, modern weaponry and even energy weapons)
>now with an army of cyberdemons you decide decide to keep heading southeast
>first target is some newly established kingdom
>there's no army to speak of, only people who show up to oppose you is the local human king and his two tiefling queens consort
>he singlehandedly beats your entire cyberdemon army to death with his flail and then rips your fucking head off
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>>1361264
I always knew the Player Character in kingmaker was a chad
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>>1361255
Interesting. But aren't they bad?
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>>1361264
Hedwirg can't keep getting away with this!
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>>1361280
I can't speak about WotR, since I'll wait until release.
But in Kingmaker they aren't fully implemented by Owlcat (they don't have their "ultimate" ability at all), so you HAVE to install the Call of the Wild mod to remedy that.

But other than that? If you'll be careful with your build, you'll be literally shitting out spells, both arcane and divine.
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>chad baron has people celebrate his birthday, companions wish him well
>no one cares about the commander's
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Is there any interactions with the kingdom we established in Pathfinder Kingmaker? Is there any dialogue that mentions what happened there?
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>>1361348
none outside of it being a success and storyteller saying his contributions were respected
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>>1361348
>>1361350

There's far too many variables to take into account. Owlcat doesn't have BioWare's budget and manpower.
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>>1361264
>not "local lord"
baka desu senpai
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nenio ending romance
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>>1361264
you had me until the 5th line
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>>1361402
The only thing Nenio loves is knowledge, and beer
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shit bros
what do i do to her
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>>1361427
Start a festival, bitches love festivals
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>>1361427
Bitchslap her across the face
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>>1361427
Execute her. Half-orcs are abominations created by Lamashtu.
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Lich or Demon?
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>>1361449
Lich. Cavalier.
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>>1361280
yes
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>>1361456
>Lich, Cavalier.
dangerously based
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>>1361437
>not liking best mom
ngmi
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what would happened if instead of just outright killing her, I capture Minagho, chain her up in my dungeon and then sing the Song of Elysium to her until she mind-breaks?
would she become catatonic from too much CG autism? turn into discount no eyeballs Arue? or just be super angry at me for singing a magical of niceness, politeness and other things demons hate?
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>>1361500
>needing a song
I'M GONNA SAY IT
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>>1361339
people celebrate the baron's birthday but not with the baron, they threw a party while I was out in the wilderness
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>>1361500
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>>1361500
Based minaghoposter. Lilithu are created for love not for war.
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>>1361500
>Elysium version of a CIA black site
Would probably REEEEE very hard. Outright redemption would probably be impossible without a deity actually intervening.
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>>1361500
>>1361514
Aeon's Path already confirms that all it takes to turn Aru back evil is to take away her dreams.
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>>1361500
Stauntonpls
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>>1361264
>>there's no army to speak of
implying based baron didnt already commission an army of holy cybersmilodons the moment mendev fell

It was only for flexing though, the last line is still accurate
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I'm stuck deciding between Seelah and Regill. I like based gnome more but Seelah is my tank and I have no one else to hold the line if scrap her

Ideas bros?
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>>1361449
Both. I have enough bolts for both of them.
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>>1361566
Play a tank and take her place. Regill is based.
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>>1361573
Can Bloodrager tank?
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>>1361579
He can, but Seelah - paladin tanks better.
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>>1361583
Can you tank while using a 2hander? If so, how?
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>>1361579
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>>1361593
ngl this is not that clear to understand
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did they add destined bloodline to bloodrager?
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Where can I buy or find second part of the half of pair amulet?
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>>1361593
>get's mogged by Sword Saints
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>>1361606
Not yet, though it's planned apparently
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>>1361593
>38 STR

How much would you be able to lift at that point? a ton/1000kg?
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>>1361593

>60 AC

That's cute
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>>1361611
sweet, thanks anon
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>>1361622
>casts magic missile in your direction
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>>1361628
>>1361622
OH FUCK SHIELD NOOOOOOOOOOOOO
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>>1361619
idk but its nowhere near what you can get
https://www.reddit.com/r/Pathfinder_RPG/comments/61s8kt/monday_master_of_the_unsung_skill/
https://www.reddit.com/r/Pathfinder_RPG/comments/78vdsg/build_challenge_carrying_the_weight_of_the_world/
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any fun builds?
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>>1361650
pure fighter
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>>1361348
Storyteller at one point uses his item reading ability on Tartuccio's signet ring.
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>>1361593
did you make this
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>>1361449
Lich Jack Skellington once I figured out perfect build for it. Even Lich's theme sounds like "This is Halloween ".
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How the fuck do you build Regill to be effective? His whole kit is so weird
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Reposting from previous threads about my Arue quest problem
>recruited Arue early
>got the greengates quest as expected
>no Arue quest from there, even though it worked in the alpha and in the previous version of the beta, assuming no early recruitment
>did the dragon quest, since Storyteller is needed for that dream quest
>waited 100+ days, no Arue popping to tell me about her dream
>reloaded a save, did the Areelu Lab quest
>waited 100+ days, no Arue popping to tell me about her dream
About to reload to do Wintersun and try to see if it allows it to trigger. Wish me luck lads.

Also, if some of you got that dream quest while recruiting Arue early, please do tell, because that shit has been bothering me for a few days and I'm starting to believe the early recruitment was what softlocked it. Again.
Anyway, cheers, and have a cute Arue
>inb4 evil Arue
All Arues are cute.
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>>1361673
No its something I saved along time ago. On a semi-related note I'm super sad Aberrant bloodline didn't get added into the game, since smacking people 30ft away was always fun.
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Also how can you get a patch for beta?
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I'm looking at the different paths and... Angel seems to unlock a power that makes his Sword buff last for... 1 minute per mythic level.

Does this mean Angel, at max level, only gets to use his sword power for only 10 minutes per day?
That seems incredibly stupid. Or am I missing something?
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>>1361699
hopefully destined makes it in at the very least.
>>1361731
before it was only one round per level, if it's strong and you can turn it on and off whenever you want i don't see the problem
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Anons, explain some mythic mechanics to me.
Swarm and Dragon are going to be late-game mythic options, right?
So you have to withhold picking a mythic path? Or you can switch from another path?
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>>1361763
you switch
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>>1361763
you get locked into certain paths later on through quests and choices
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>>1361763
You have to pick a Mythic Path at Mythic Level 3, and after that you have the option to switch to a late-game path (Devil, Legend, Swarm or Gold Dragon)
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>>1361739

Oh, you can toggle it. That's a different matter then. Up to 100 rounds per day is real good. Aeon's damage buff is like 20 rounds (if you aren't an inquisitor).

I thought it was a single use thing I would just leave on my hotbar always saving "in case I'll need it later in the dungeon".

Guess I'll go Angel.
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>>1361731
Isn't there an angel mythic power increasing its duration?
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>>1361693
He's a TWF dex fighter who is specialized in dual bladed weapons.
There's not much to it since all you do is have him full attack dudes for a bajillion damage.
He's pretty shit out of the box but it's quickly remedied. Get him a worthwhile weapon (Chapter 2 camp store has a holy +2 hook hammer that's waiting for him), get mythic finesse, then set him loose.
Hell Knight class doesn't look worthwhile at all so just take Armiger levels and maybe a hot dip or two like Demonhunter or Vivisectionist.
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>>1361779
I know it's not in the game but aren't aligned weapons supposed to be unusable by people opposite to them? For example an evil person can't use a holy weapon or a lawful person can't use an anarchic one.
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>>1361782
You're supposed to get negative levels while holding an opposing alignment weapon but Owlcat didn't implement it.
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>>1361779
>Hell Knight class doesn't look worthwhile at all
when are prestige classes ever worth taking desu
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>>1361782
It's a tabletop-only restriction
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>>1361790
Arcane Trickster
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>>1361790
Nothing wrong with dipping into dragon disciple and trickster is pretty much always worth it if you can do it without anything silly.
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>>1361790
Hellknight does not even work properly at this point.
As for the prestiges in the game ,Hellknight, assassin and probaly Theurge(maybe mythic spellbooks will fix some issues) are meh.
The rest can be pretty good, be it for dips that scale well or for certain niche builds that are still very effective
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Honestly crossblooded elemental/dragon sorc 2 / dragon disciple 4 dip on a martial lich looks mighty tasty. You get +4 strength, 5 caster levels that merge with you lich casting and eventually let you use enduring spells on shit like haste, mythic feat for crit immunity (very important against deskari) and a bit of extra natty armor.
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>>1361765
>>1361770
>>1361772
You will keep the old path stuff, or respec anything beyond level 3?
I assume the requirement will be very strict and you can't switch to devil from a lich.
I'm just trying to get ONE specific lich power but also have a dick to fuck Camellia.
Folks, this is some super serious RPG character build planning.
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>>1361821
>I assume the requirement will be very strict and you can't switch to devil from a lich.
We don't know yet. Devil is IIRC only for Azatas and bad Aeons, according to the datamine.
As for the purely mechanical stuff, absolutely no idea about how it's going to work.
What do you want from the lich path?
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>>1361821
we don't know, none of the late paths are in yet.
only aeons and azatas can become devils.
any path can redeem themselves and go into gold dragon
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So how or where can I download a patch for Wrath Beta? Is it required to download entire thing again?
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>>1361830
Leakchan said to copy all the contents of the old beta into another folder and tell the torrent to download there. It should only download new files if you do that.
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>>1361830
You get the new magnet to download in your old folder, should be just 2-3 gigs
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>>1361830
Can confirm the >>1361832 method works.
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>>1361832
Can anyone link it?
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>>1361790
Student of War/Duelist Int tank
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>>1361847
magnet:?xt=urn:btih:9B8C206E4F145D9C7E3FF206C7BDB2C9579BEE38&dn=Wrath%20of%20the%20Dolphin%20Porn%202%20Beta%20Boogalo
should work
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>>1361848
what base class and how many levels of each?
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You ARE playing an undead/abyssal bloodline crossblooded sorcerer lich, aren't you anon? You're not one of these minmaxing faggots, you actually care about the commander lich's rich story, don't you?
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>>1361851
Magus archetypes would work. Or a fighter with Int 14 who would take combat feats.
Heck, even skill monkey rogue or vivi.
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>>1361832
Copy or just place the files into different folder?
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>>1361827
Decaying touch.
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>>1361862
I copied, can't vouch for what happens if you just move them.
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>>1361859
No, just Arcane sorcerer lich
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>>1361865
Why? Is it going to break or something if I don't?
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>>1361859
no, probably a warpriest to lich
arcane classes do nothing for me
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>>1361870
As I said, I can't vouch for what happens if you just move them.
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>>1361874
So Copy them to have a backup beta?
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>>1361859
No, I'm playing a Cavalier Lich with dumped CON.
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>>1361859
Like some pansy 10 int sorcerer would ever be able to handle lichdom. What are you going to do, spend eternity passing persuasion checks? Wizards only.
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>>1361874
Also is this new folder supposed to be named the same and the torrent supposed to download the whole thing?
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>>1361859
>claims to not be a minmaxing faggots
>picks a CHA caster when charisma is the most important lich stat
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>>1361906
>sorcerer
>wizard
Lmao. Embrace Lich Death Knight.
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>>1361698
Thanks for the update. Hopefully Owlkeks will fix these quest triggers eventually
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>>1361906
Witches are cool too. Especially Hagbounds.
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>>1361859
Pure arcanist human. Only logical that lich would be next step in studies.
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>>1361947
>Especially Hagbounds.
>wanting to become an abomination
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Lich powers looks so fucking cool... I see a real potential for weird but viable builds.
Fugg, I wish Demon was more like this. Currently demon seems so... straightforward.
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>>1361947
This guy fucks.
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is it true that the gold dragon path areelu can stay with you in the end?
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>>1361960
I grow horns and get really angry roar
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>>1361960
Plenty of fun possibilities with demon too. I will be making a super chargeman next
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>>1361947
>>1361958
>Hagbound
Redpill me on it
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>>1361790
Hellknight signifer actually is, even though it's currently bugged to cost you a caster level at 1st level. Full arcane casting in mithral full plate is dope for a lich.
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>>1361960
Keep in mind that a significant chunk of Demon isn't even implemented.

I'm much more curious about how different will the Golden Dragon path be from, let's say, an Angel one in terms of our activities/powers. They can't be in synergy, since GD also serves as a "redemption" path for the evil ones, and Azata is confirmed to also be able to go into Gold Dragon AND retain Aivu.
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Recreate your mythic path in any character creator and post them- heres two from last thread- A mythic lich and a mythic angel
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>>1361986
>Azata is confirmed to also be able to go into Gold Dragon AND retain Aivu
Proof? Fuck Angel, I'm going Azata into GD then.
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Honestly I can't see demon being salvageable if they don't give it crazier abilities or 9th level casting and some merged spellbooks.
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>>1361988
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>>1361991
You'll have to dig through the threads, but there's datamined dialogue where Aivu comments on you taking care of the baby dragon on the GD path. So she's still with you.
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>>1361988
>>1361993
Source?

>>1361998
This. There's also descriptions of her talking to the hatchling and playing with it.
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>>1361992
Just flat bonuses from some aspects to dc or damage (on top of demonic rage benefits) are very good. And you have some more niche cases like aspect of Brimorak or Kalavakus. Though I agree it could use a 7 level spell list like the rest
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>>1361991
>Proof? Fuck Angel, I'm going Azata into GD then.
>Aivu's jealous
>"The highest jewel of the dragon race?" Aivu frowns and turns away. "I think you are, how can I say this? You are exaggerating, here!"

>"On the one hand, I am no longer the smallest dragon in the squad. On the other hand... that's what comes out, I'm an older sister now? Oh, oh!" Aivu's eyes light up slyly. "How many interesting prospects! Let's be friends, little baby!"

>The dragon pulls its neck towards Aivu and responds with a joyful snort.
From >>1270505

Also pic related, the big COCK comment is from her at a gold dragon.
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>>1362004
>Source?
looks like it comes from heroforge.
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>>1361958
>+6 Size Bonus
They may be evil monsters, but imagine being amazoned by a Hag.
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>>1362006
Azata into GD it is.
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>>1362004
yeah like >>1362008 said its from heroforge.

The poster for the lich didnt specify class but i did the angel and its supposed to be a paladin angel of vengeance
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>>1361988
>trying to connect to Heroforge
>all my previously saved minis were somehow wiped out
Welp, it sucks. Eh, could be worse.
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>>1361129
>Armiger isn't a requirement to spec into the Hellknight classes
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Lads should I specialize with Nenio or just go for basic Spell Penetration feats and then... then what?
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>>1362028
Plenty of people join the order late in their life. Armigers are recruits who started their training from the ground up usually.
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>>1362028
>He isn't playing Warrior of Holy Light/Hellknight
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>>1362030
You can afford two spell penetrations, 2 school focuses and a greater school focus easily. Just avoid point blank/precise feat tax and do not use ray spells. Like, how the fuck do you ever build a wizard in a DnD game, in the first place? What has you so stumped?
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>>1362042
>Warrior of Holy Light
I still don't understand what that archetype and martyr are supposed to do
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>>1361129
I'm playing an Orechad Armored Hulk. I can't think of any mythic path that really fits being a full physical rock midget. Should I just go for legend?
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>>1362050
Aeon as solid as a rock would fit oread, but not Hulk
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>>1362048
I dunno anon maybe something changes with school savant / nenio in particular since she has her schools picked already
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>>1362049
same, i don't think anybody does
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>>1362069
She likes Illusion and you can go for evocation or conjuration easily, if you want to blast and/or CC. If you want to do a more niche build, take the mythic upgrades that make shadow evocations more real, I guess. But you could have her trhowing grease, pits, chains of light and what have you easily
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wotr is honestly the funnest crpg i've played in the last few years, bugs and all.
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I'm considering an Orcale Lich.
Question is, does Lich use INT for spells? Would I need to go both CHA and INT to cast stuff?

I feel like I saw one spell, for some mythic, that said something like "using your CHA, INT, or WIS depending on which is higher". Do mythic spellbooks perhaps use your best mental stat? God I wish this stuff was actually made clear in the game somewhere.

Have a picture of Supreme Leader in return.
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>>1361988
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>>1362049
Warrior of Holy light gives up spellcasting to be able to make an aura of light around themselves that provides some bonuses and can also shoot blinding/damaging light at evil creatures at higher levels.
Martyr can use any Lay on Hands Mercy without actually having it but if they don't have it they take the condition onto themself. They also can make themselves bleed to do bardic performances, but they don't get smite evil.

I'm like 90% sure they're inferior to the base class but holy light sounds fun at least.
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>>1362081
Just how buggy is it at the moment? Looking promising for the full release?
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>>1362118
Most of the bugs I've encountered so far are just performance related, or small things like animations being super fucked up. I haven't found any game breaking bugs yet which is a step up from launch Kingmaker because I found multiple game breaking bugs in the first day of playing that game.
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>>1361988
There was an attempt.
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>>1362147
Bonus points for Aivu.
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>>1362118

chapter 4 is really bad, but it's not completed. the bugs i've found thus far are class related and buttons/quests sometimes not appearing, as well as some model clipping through terrains, but i have not encountered anything game breaking. the first three chapters are essentially ready for launch with some polishing. we won't know about the next 3 for the full release until we get there.
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>>1362166
Eh the entire army thing needs a LOT of polish and there needs to be some kind of pressure to push the player forward like Kingmaker's time limits.
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>>1362118
For now, the most annoying bugs I've met were related to the early recruitment of Arue, but once again I didn't go beyond the end of the alpha and chapter 3 in the beta
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>>1362177
>there needs to be some kind of pressure to push the player forward like Kingmaker's time limits.
A way to do so would probably be to increase the power of the demon army that comes knocking at your door every week, so that you're not dealing with only a few cultists and schirs anymore after a few months.
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>>1362147
>Steelblood
I see that archetype shilled a lot here, what does it get compared to a normal Bloodrager that makes it so good?
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>>1361926
Desna willing, completing Wintersun will actually let me help Arue build her dream before she locks herself into horny jail.
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>>1362193
>so good
It's about the flavor, it's heavy armor bloodrager
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>>1362118
Depends as always. I get shit like enemies spawning under floors so I need to reload, my horse disappears for hours then randomly reappears, a really annoying one is a TB bug that causes your turn to never end but you can't do anything so you have to exit then re-enter turn based mode.
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You are going to play as a kitsune chad right?
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>>1362206
Are all of these placeholders or just Kitsune?
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>>1362206
>anything other than pure human
>chad
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>>1362211
why do you think kitsune is a placeholder?
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>>1362206
I hate kitsune model. Their cheeks are too fat.
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>>1362211
>any of those
>placeholders
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>>1362206

i had a kitsune playthrough and it was bugged as shit. no weapons on the model at all and no shape changing.
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>>1362177
Thing is, building up a decent takes ages in the begining and a single bad engagement can set you back weeks of in game time.
In a game where the crusade army management is the only thing you do that's fine because that's the whole game but when you're also trying to do the crpg side of things as well it can put a brick wall on your progress or just straight up game over if there's some sort of time pressure.
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>>1362212
I'm gonna be an Angel Blooded Aasimar Crossblooded Sorcerer with Abyssal and Dragon bloodlines and collect more via mythic feats.
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Somehow it's kind of awkward when the people who come barging into my office due to an issue, mention potential relationships in it, especially when I only flirted once for shits and giggles
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>>1362206
>Human
>male
>Hedwirg portrait
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>>1362233
>tfw in an ironic relationship with Sosiel
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>>1362237
>just Hedwirg
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>>1362206
furries go straight into the cloudkillchambers
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>>1362177
Just play with more urgency if you want to. Kingmaker's time limits were fair but still ended up being annoying when it got in the way of exploring and such. The less strict time limit in Wrath of the Righteous is a breath of fresh air.
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holy shit eldritch archer is insanely OP
lvl 30 of the tenebrous depths solo hard atm
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Do you guys stick with Arue's Espionage Expert or should I be doing something smarter with her insane stats?
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why would anyone choose Wen over Lann?
Lann's a fucking beast
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>>1362288
Strictly speaking, she will have a better chance to hit with a bow without any resources. However, Lann has perfect strike from ki resource and flurry of blows for better extra shot, so yeah. I am taking her on the 2nd run just for different party dynamics
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>>1362288
edgelord/waifufag appeal
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>>1362288
I'm too jaded to agree with his views
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Is it just me or are barbarians and bloodragers just the most powerful martial classes in the game purely because of the fact that they can have infinite rage as soon as they get the first mythic ability.
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>>1362305
? Wendu's the hopeful one. Lann's the gloomy, insecure one. Wendu straight up tells you and shows you how ambitious she is.
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>>1362288
he's TOO much of a good boy, doesn't align with my character motivation to even come to the worldwound
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>>1362287
Well, she's already pretty deep in when you meet her, so I usually keep her single-classed,
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>>1362288

tsundere edgelord bug waifus with cha of 5 just makes sense

also re-speccing her to slayer makes her pretty gud
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>>1362306
Slayer study target so they always land and build-up of sneak dice, freebooter with self buffs, combat style feats and amazing stacjable buffs and a vivi multiclass for mutagen/sneak/discoveries are contenders.
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>>1362288
Wendu hits like a truck and never misses especially once she gets mythic upgrades to her fighter feats.
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How well does demon synergize with warpriest or inquisitor? Also warpriest or sanctified slayer 2hander?
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>>1362324
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>>1362288
Lann is too much of a self loathing faggot for me plus Wendog is cute cute CUTE!!!!!!
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>>1362261
Yeah time limits ON THE WORLD MAP made it feel as if you were doing stuff wrong if you weren't pitch perfect with your rests

Now, introducing limited rests until something happens like in Kenabres is more cool, you have to judge your resources well but you don't have an arbitrary time limit
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>>1362327
last one
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>>1362288
Money over a hoe? Always. Brand new weapon over a hoe? Absolutely. A turkey sandwich with just tomato? Guaranteed. But homies? Oh no!
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Is an eldritch archer dip for ranged spellstrike worth it on wendu? it should work with rapid shot.
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The best decisions in the Shield Maze are to hide the light of heaven from Sul and then use it later when the demon tries to corrupt the mongrels.

This way you will both save the mongrels from insanity and get a choice between Lann and Wendu.
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>>1362340
I showed the light then chimped out as a demon and i could also choose between both of them. All that matters to be able to choose is that you flip flop from wendu to lann.
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>>1362343
You could choose, yeah. But the mongrels stayed insane.
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>>1362349
What do you mean? Not showing the light then using it on the demon still leaves the mongrels weird, I saw it on a stream. Please don't lie on the internet anon.
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>>1362340
But that makes Lann sad
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What do I do with the levers in Defender's Heart prison? I tried every combo of up/down, is there a quest involving it?
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>>1362340
I want to make the mongrels happy so no, get fucked Whendog
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>>1362369
You need to press the button behind the shield too
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>>1362369
Up down down IIRC, left to right, with button on the left.
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>>1362356
The dialogue is slightly different. In the demon rage version, Wendu will say they will be more feral and weak ones will go totally insane. In the light of heaven version, she will just say they will be more feral.
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>>1362379
>>1362382
Ok for some reason tab didn't highlight the button
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>>1362384
She could be lying and hiding the bad consequences from the goodie angel commander who just summoned holy flames.
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>>1362388
Wenduag is evil, but she wouldn't lie like that. She doesn't have the nerve.
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>>1362388
Ehhh, even the inner monologue in the angel option has the whole "You can feel it. You can save these people!".
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Anyone else hate the capeshit setting? Mythic is DnD equivalent of comic book avenger infinity wars.
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>>1362400
>we could've had this instead of the battered wife
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I want to like Arue but feel she's not really a person, more like a sockpuppet for Desna
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>>1362409
Go Aeon and give her free will back.
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>>1362401
Not really, only you are the superhero. The rest get a boost from leftover juice
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>>1362409
I hope there is a way to fuck over Desna.
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As bloodragers, is it worth it to take a dip in dragon disciple for the extra attack and go demon first for another extra attack?
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>>1362409
She is just mind broken by Desna. Sex slave for you to use.
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>>1362406
What if I want both?
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>>1362420
You don't exist
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>>1362395
pff she's planning to betray you on chapter 3 from the start useless you
>make her feel welcome enogh that she wants to stay, think this reqires romance for her to change her ways
or
>show beyond any doubt that you're the stronger options to follow in ch3
archieve any of those 2 and she doesn't sell you out in ch3
outside of that she's doing what she always did, find a master or someone she sees she can gain something and tell him what he wants to hear, till she's strong enough to not need a master anymore or a stronger one shows up
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How’s shield bash slayer? Having a medium armored flanker with some AC plus sneak attack die sounds like a lot of fun
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Is wenduag the Power equivalent of a gold digger?
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>>1362400
baphomet used goods
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>>1362401
No, I don't let capeshit live in my head rent free.
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>>1362428
How are you supposed to do the second? Go down certain mythic paths?
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>>1362401
useless you go for the power of friendship kind of path I don't see it
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>>1362435
Good. Study target helps land iteratives, sneak die supplements damages to shield bashing, combat style lets you get the feats easily. You will be barely offtanking, but there are some nice shields to use
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>>1362206
I would if the tail feats were actually decent. It annoys me as a nine tailed fox im not OP.
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>>1362445
seems like, there is the dialog but haven't found a way to trigger it
guess its demon but I honestly not feel like playing through chapter 2 again just for a path I really cant get into, for evil fantasies I have lich, can't see demon as anyting but the doomed ragetard path
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>>1362450
Are they able to be bruiser esque, or to play them more as a knife fighter/rogue? I rolled one in kingmaker and completely raped that swamp lurker at old sycamore which had me laughing, then again I was never prone to use melee sneak attackers in a party
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>>1362206
>the alpha had no fox form
>the beta has no human form
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>>1362464
I have no idea what the fuck you mean, honestly. But slayer can be a decent dual wield of any weapon you prefer. Any weapon, really
Only thing you do not bother with is unarmed
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>>1362248
>cloudkillchambers
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Do kitsunes bang in their human or fox form though?
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>>1362473
Females in human form, males in fox form.
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>>1362469
Sorry was distracted and spoke ESL for a minute. I meant are they able to take hits here and there or should I keep them completely out of reach by mobs, or if they’re squishy
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So it's impossible to ever get Wenduag permanently on the team if you show the light and use angel powers on the demon, right?
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>>1362488
You'll never get her permanently if you chose Lann first, doing both of those just guarantees you won't even have the chance to pick her
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>>1362485
With defensive buffs and shield+armor ACm they will do decently, even without many feats. Magical vestment boosts on armor and shield will help
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>>1362471
ekun no they are just children
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>>1362488
AFAIK she will always betray you in Chapter 4 and you have to kill her.
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>>1362488
yes, you become too softy in the eyes of the bug
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>>1362503
What? No.
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>>1362512
I mean, if you took Lann in the prologue.
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>>1362496
>>1362503
>>1362505
So is there any way to get both of them permanently, or is it really an either/or situation?

Because that would honestly be pretty cool.
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>tfw replayed up to chapter 3 like 5 times now
I wonder if I'll still be able to stand the early game, and crusading shit when the actual game finally releases
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>>1362528
It seems like an either/or situation and I hope it is desu. More choices, more consequences.
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>>1362528
So far there is no way to get them both.
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>>1362530
Man I would not recommend doing shit like this.
You will just kill interest in playing the completed game.
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>>1362528
Has anyone tried to pick Wendu over Lann in the prologue? Maybe he can be convinced to join you permanently later?
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Which eventually becomes better, Bloodrager or Eldritch scion?
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>>1362584
Nope you kill him either way
Well you do, or she does...or he kills her and still refuses to join you.
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>>1362592
They're a pretty close match. Bloodrager does more innate damage, but Scion's have more options and those two extra spell levels help.
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>>1362592
bloodrager, easily. Simply because mythic spellcasting closes the spell level gap with scion and because you have transformation 24/7, and because honestly spellcombat ranges from meh damage because you give up 2handed str bonus to a micromanaging and math nightmare to use.
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>>1362612
Isn't spell combat just effectively dual-wielding once you get Spellstrike?
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>>1362612
Oh, but if ES is still bugged and gives you greater spell access at CASTER (not class) level 19, then it is much closer to bloodrager simply for sense vitals. It means you can dip dragon disciple for pretty much no loss at all.

>>1362618
Yeah, but dual wielding is meh without added flat damage not multiplied by crits. You are giving up STR bonus damage from twohanding to do it.

Also bloodrager has much more variety in weapon selection unless you ignore spellcombat on ES.
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if i cret a /vg/ thread for wrath. will u bros go to it?
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For how hard it was that vampire fight in Drezen sure had shit loot
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>When even demons get taken aback by your autism
Man, I love Nenio.
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>>1362631
Nah, no reason really. Plus /crpg/ exists.
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>>1362634
She's honestly unfunny and a tad cringey
le so quirky science character xd has never been portrayed in a good way
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>>1362624
I just want them to give Eldritch Scion's Bloodrager bloodlines back.
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>>1362634
Why is she so lewd?
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>>1362634
>tfw Jerribeth is actually based and helpful in ch4
Color me surprised
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>>1362641
I tolerate her since rather than going 'Super scienntit solves problems in a fantasy world', she is an autist who acts like a knowledge sponge
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>>1362653
Fair enough anon

>>1362646
>trusting demons
>EVER
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is it true that daeran wants to be a woman
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>>1362678
No, unlike your mom.
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>>1362678
Is it true that your mother is a pig that shat you out?
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>>1362678
Yes and I'll do it by pumping my seed into his boyhole.
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>>1362646
What does she do?
I killed her in Xanthir's lab in Chapter 3.
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>>1362686
>not playing as a girl for a mere purpose of legally annexing Mendev throne with yours and Daeran's muse-touched offspring
Do you even crusader kings
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>no Qlippoth ascension path
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>>1362699
She helps you with Vellexia a lot.
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I'm starting to feel like out of combat rolls are weighted against the player
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>>1362705
Nah. Skill CHECKS though, I believe it
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Tips for Blightmaw? I can't tank him, he has +30 to hit
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>>1362718
seduce him
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>>1362718
>cast displacement
>cast mirror image
>cast good fortune hex

Congratulations, that +30 to hit has become fucking worthless.
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>>1362727
>>cast good fortune hex
>implying cacle spam use
>implying using exploits
I will pardon you this one time because it's a beta and the cave thingies shouldn't be able to spam stun and petrification RAW.
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>>1362727
he has permanent true seeing
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>>1362731
What? You can use cackle as a move action, so sitting in place and spamming it while casting spells is literally the intended use.

Not that it matters, since you could still just cast it every round even without cackle.
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>>1362740
Oh, too bad. In that case, hope you have a Sword Saint!
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is there any different between true sight and blind sense
how about blind fight and improved precise shot
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>>1362751
True Sight ignores illusions.

Blind Sense helps with concealment.
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>>1362746
It should only be able to be put on someone once every 24hours.
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>>1362746
>>What? You can use cackle as a move action, so sitting in place and spamming it while casting spells is literally the intended use.
Wrong. https://paizo.com/paizo/faq/v5748nruor1fn#v5748eaic9qoy
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>>1362746
And just in case you didn't understand what I meant by cackle spam use: there's a tactic floating around here to spam cackle out of combat and make protective luck and fortune infinite in length since move actions aren't capped.
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>>1362788
>tactic
come on anon, I did say I felt it was akin to cheating in the other thread
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>>1362784
I believe he meant Cackle (move action) and Cast Any other Spell (action...action).
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>>1362796
>>1362788
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>>1362797
Yes this has no relevance to my statement.
The post didn't say cackle twice a turn
It said cackle + casting a spell.
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>>1362804
The post was answering to my post, in which I specified cackle spam use.
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>>1362806
Using cackle once a turn is entirely valid.
The abuse is the fact that out of combat doesn't use turns and thus capable of stacking things that are only intended to be prolonged one round.
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>>1362812
>Using cackle once a turn is entirely valid.
Correct
>The abuse is the fact that out of combat doesn't use turns and thus capable of stacking things that are only intended to be prolonged one round.
Correct
Glad you are catching on
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>>1362751
True Sight: works against illusion spells, mostly useless in game because monsters that have invisibility/displacement have it from some innate shit, not spells
Echolocation and other spells / abilities that give blindsense (like dragonform): all the benefits of true sight but within a limited range, also immunity to gaze

the rest im a little unsure
blind fight: reroll miss from concealment, immunity to gaze
improved blind fight: ??
improved precise shot: ??
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>>1362818
Anon you seem confused
What I saying is someone pointing to Paizos FAQ about using cackle twice a turn is irrelevant to this post: >>1362746

Except they are retarded since they think Fortune should be capable of being cast twice in a day on a single person.
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>>1362835
>Anon you seem confused
You are the confused one. I started here, implying that cackle spam tactic is bad >>1362731
>>1362746 Didn't understand what cackle spam tactic is and thought it's just regular cackle use.
>>1362784 I explained why cackle spam tactic is bad, thinking the anon understood what cackle spam tactic is, when in reality anon was talking about normal cackle use.
>>1362788 Here I explained what cackle spam tactic is, because I noticed the anon might not know what cackle spam tactic is.
>>1362762 This is no me.
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>>1362835
I get fortune and Protective Luck mixed up sometimes.
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isn't there a mythic feat or something that makes all your buffs last for a full day?
someone posted something like that a while back
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>>1361988
any character creator you say?
well here's a Lich(Elf(female(cute)))
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>>1362896
Enduring Spells
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Damn is it just me or is this entire army management/building really clunky. Nothing stopping me right now from skipping a month, getting infinite finance points and just building a deathball of units. I figured they would learn from kingmaker and just focus on the fking adventuring
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>>1362896
Enduring Spells makes buffs that last for 1 hour last all day.
Greater Enduring Spells makes anything over 5 mins last 24 hours instead.
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>>1362288
>why would anyone choose Wen over Lann?
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Also my storyteller isnt at warcamp, does he show up later once you take drezen?

He was at defenders heart last time
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>>1362288
Lann vs Wen is way more a narrative choice.
Either is not substantially better than the other in terms of gameplay.
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>>1362907
>Greater Enduring Spells makes anything over 5 mins last 24 hours instead
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>>1362964
early game is fairly costly just because it takes up getting more casting slots.
But making 1min spells last ages is great for being lazy.
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>>1362304
>>1362307
>>1362315
>>1362318
>>1362324
>>1362327
>>1362332
excellent posts
since I love demon girls I'll post some too
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Can you use Kingmaker portrait packs in WOTR or do they need to be formatted differently?
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>>1362985
the former
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>singing the Song of Elysium to the Fallen Azata

It might have been kinder to just kill him.
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that was what I had
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I hope they'll have an auto option for crusade in the full release. I just want concentrate on crpg part of this crpg.
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>>1362996
Very nice, anon, thanks for sharing.
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>>1362979
Old diablo was hotter, but at least it does make sense that the embodiment of all evil looks like a woman.
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Am i reading it wrong or with enduring spells you can just give yourself holy aura permanently and basically dab on the entirety of this game's roster?
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>>1363112
You're not reading it wrong. Enduring Spells is fan-fucking-tastic. With the right setup, you can even get round/level spells to last for 24 hours, though that takes a very high caster level.
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What's the best class to pair with the Angel mythic path?
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>>1363134
1 vivi/1 rouge/3 monk/6 sorc/2 warpriest/7 hellknight
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>>1363134
Nature oracle for a celestial pet and a shitton of spells from merged spellbook+abundant spells.
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Anyone else have a problem with doors in general? I've started to notice that if you open a door and then start combat, no one can get through the doorway as if its still closed.
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>>1361988
since azata don't have anything at the moment
I went with lilend
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>>1363140
Same shit happened in kingmaker and made me redo irovetti's palace because the fuckers couldn't move through one of the doors and got stuck. It's a bug.
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>>1363140
yes, it's an issue with turn based mode
hilarously for the defender's heart siege when the minotaur takes down the gate that bug hits them and they can't get through to you
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are any of the other oracle archetypes better than the base one? i plan on making a battle oracle
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>>1363140
Try switching to rtwp, moving your party through the doorway, then back to turn based
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>>1363140
Also, forgot relevant image
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>>1363134
Cleric/Oracle
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>>1363134
paladin
accept no substitutes
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>>1363157
A fighter angel is better than a paladin one in almost every way, especially when the smites run out. Pretty sure angels get bestow grace too.
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>>1363134
2 Paladin/ 1 Oracle
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>>1363163
>bestow grace
lol
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>>1363171
Or someone else can cast it. Not like it's needed with the many immunities angel gets. Plus you're copying seelah.
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>>1363175
does seelah have the mythic path? no?
she copies ME
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>>1363157
Does Paladin combine with Mythic spellbooks from Angel?
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>>1363175
the fact that you unironically suggested that skill says plenty
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>>1363192
What? Suggesting a buff that gives one of the main features of paladin, when angel also gives the other main feature of palainds (immunities)?

I think I know what "it" is saying. "It" is saying that you should shut the fuck up.
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So this is a bug right? I don't think I've picked any good option in the game, yet she says this. Could it be the fact that I started the game with lawful evil and haven't tipped to neutral yet? In that case they probably haven't written dialogue for that.
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>>1363198
>keeps digging
imagine wasting slots on that shit
the absolute state of whatever your build is
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>>1363205
What was that? I can't hear you over all my extra feats
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>>1363203
I think she says that if your alignment is any lawful or good.
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>>1363207
based on spells you think are worthwhile, your feat choices are probably trash too
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>>1363191
No
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>>1363205
>>1363221
I don't get it, what's wrong with bestow grace?
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>>1363216
Yeah, the quest after the dialogue mentions that you need to get rid of lawful and good, so they just haven't written any dialogue for lawful evil or neutral.
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>>1363225
Really?
That is aggressively lame.
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>>1363203
They changed demon from any nongood to nonlawful and nongood. Lich is the nongood option now.
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>>1363226
He's just baiting
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>>1363203
meh you can kick this bitch ass later don't see why we need her aproval in how to demon
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>>1363230
Angel is basically just the Lich path but for divine fullcasters
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>wiz/druid/mt angel
I don't care if it's a meme it sounds pretty fun.
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>>1363269

too autistic to know different
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>>1363267
make it a sylvan sorcerer / feyspeaker / mystic theurge / angel and we can starttalking
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>>1363280
You'd end up with a useless animal companion and even more delayed spell progression with that.
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Reminder that daeran's CANON build is oracle 6 / celestial bloodline sourcerer 4 / mysthic theurgey 10
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>>1361257
i have the exact same problem
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>>1363285
This makes me think though that the azata might actually be the better choice since you get a animal companion and you can get that feat that makes enemies roll saves twice.
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>>1363285
nah the companion gets to level 14, it's fine, and the spell progression delay is fixed by mythic

hell maybe even the companion is fixed by mythic

and this way you get to cast all spells with charisma
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>mfw lann-daeran-woljif-nenio dialogue on shit demon
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>>1363301
anon mt doesn't progress your druid level, only caster
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>>1363306
post it
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Reminder that swarm is for all intents and purposes deskari's bitch. Go angel if you want to fuck him.
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>>1363307
and?
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How are people getting Staunton as a companion?
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>>1363316
how's your animal companion going to be higher than your possible druid level?
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>>1363326
3 levels from druid, 7 levels from sorcerer, 4 levels from boon companion
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>>1363325
lich
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>>1363311
>The creature standing before you bears a certain resemblance to the Lady in Shadow, but even a blind man could not mistake them. The fact is, the demoness' body is molded of filth and excrement dripping on the floor, and the stench emanating from the strange creature would make any latrine at an Alushinyrra poorhouse look like a flower shop. The demoness' voice is also not like Nocticula's at all — it sounds as if someone took a spoon and started stirring the sour porridge that has been sitting in the sun for three days. "Greetings, hero!"
>D: "Lann, look! I found you a girl!"
>L: "You stupid idiot, I'm so tired of you..."
>D: "Fine, fine, I get the hint... Regill, look — I found you a girl!"
>W: "If I pierce her with a stick, it'll be shit on a stick."
>N: "Excrement jokes are found funny by about fifty percent of the population of Golarion. There is a noticeable negative correlation with age, social status, and the intellectual development of individuals."
>W: "Hey... What are you... Did you call me a stupid young ragamuffin? Well, that's who I am, I guess. But not stupid — I did understand what you said."

>PC: "I can smell your... powafulness from here."
>N: "What an amazing creature! Just look at her ability to imitate and self-transmute! I can say with confidence that we are facing a unique specimen!"
>Woljif laughs into his fist. "We are facing feces, that's for sure."
The last joke sounds much better in russian, gotta admit
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>>1363314
>swarm is for all intents and purposes deskari's bitch
No if we fuck (eat) him first.
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>>1363330
Was this added from kickstarter scatfaggot backers or is the poocubbus official lore?
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>>1363334
Official lore.
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>>1363327
right fuck, don't know why but in my memory feyspeaker got its animal companion by a domain, mixed it up with the other archetype
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>>1363338
you can do that but it's a bad idea for this sort of build, you want full animal level progression to get as much as you can out of it

i had fun with this build in kingmaker, so it definitely works
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I accidentally fucked that shit demon as a trickster.
>[Draw the demoness close] "You promised to be gentle with me, queen."
>4 hours passed
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>accidentally
haha yeah
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>>1363344
Kingmaker ended around level 15-16 though. Don't imagine a level 14 animal companion will fare very well against higher level enemies.
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>>1363352
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
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>>1363363
i got to level 20 on most runs
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>>1363352
hey man no one judging
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>>1363363
also kingmaker's animals were so OP that they still did fine

they're nerfed in wrath in comparison, but not enough to make them useless i imagine, especially if you can use something from your mythic on them
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Who's the Dazzler of WotR?
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>>1363374
in one of my runs it was seelah's smilodon
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>>1363377
Based. They really need to add share spells with ACs though, pets will be missing out on that mirror image and sense vitals action.
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why can't we have minhago mindbreak completely
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>>1363386
just kill her instead of playing into her games by being obsessed by her
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Reminder not to re-corrupt Arueshalae
Key": "e2fc8de0-58db-4ab2-aee5-8e8111ba19bc",
"What a pleasant surprise. Hello!\" {n}Arueshalae stands before you, her blood-covered lips spread in a wide grin. Her clawed fingers clutch a gnawed hand of a child, which she merrily waves in greeting.{/n} \"Hey, boys. Say hello to my old friend. Go on, come right in!\""

"Indeed. These handsome fellows had a jolly good time in the Worldwound wastes, but they were longing for feminine warmth…\" {n}Arueshalae slowly strokes her thigh.{/n} \"As well as wise feminine counsel. And now I have my own gang. Isn't it great?\""

"I wanted to come, and I'm here. During those years that I wasted chasing dreams I almost forgot how much fun one could have in the world of mortals. But I sure am catching up now!\""

"Oh, please! Ha-ha, what a fool I used to be! I believed the lies of a deceitful goddess, I wasted so much time and energy, I kept risking my head — and for whom? For mortals? For this blithering meat? Who knows, I might have remained deluded if you hadn't knocked some sense into me.\""

"Hmm… A tempting offer. {d|c5 arusha evil likes you}I had a lot of fun with you{/d} — I even missed you a little.\""

\"Hmm… A tempting offer. But, you know, {d|c5 arusha evil dislikes you}you're not that fun to be around{/d}. I have a better idea.\""

"What? No way! I am not joining the crusaders!\""

And as for you oafs… You're not invited.\" {n}Arueshalae winks at you playfully.{/n} \"Let's deal with these creeps to celebrate our reunion!\""

"Value": "\"You know, Commander, I've wanted to taste you ever since our very first meeting... Get {mf|him|her}, boys! Try and keep {mf|him|her} alive, but don't try too hard.\""
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>>1361264
Based shitposter
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>>1363408
This only makes me want to recorrupt her more.
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>>1363408
>arusha evil likes you
Cute nickname.
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Could anyone recommend a good stat spread for a back line oracle focusing on necromancy?
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would a bloodrider that uses javelines work? is dual wielding them mandatory?
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>>1363438
same as any other backline caster
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>>1363439
actually triple wielding them is mandatory, you have to shove one up your ass
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>>1363442
So CHA>WIS>int?
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>>1363445
no, almost every caster has only one casting stat
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>>1363446
for arcanist should you focus on INT or CHA?
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>>1363452
you know you can just read these things in less time than it takes to ask
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she's a tsundere tomboy
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>>1363444
makes sense
asked because while looking up how their attack/damage rolls worked in kingmaker all "builds" I see use them both hands like darts, so was having doubts if they were tematically what I wanted
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>>1363456
you expect me to read? fucking nerd lmao
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Does this trigger with Dreadful Carnage? Seems like a neat way to tack on some extra damage in big fights if it does.
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>>1363463
And like a dumbass and forgot the weapon in question
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>>1363465
if this was kingmaker my guess would be yes, but i'm not 100% on that, and even less sure about wrath
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>>1363465
you know it's unclear if the dazzling display is exactly what triggers during dreadful carnage, it just says
>Intimidate check to demoralize all enemies within 30
but that's exactly what dazzling display is in the first place. i'm willing to speak out of my ass and say it does indeed trigger with dreadful carnage.
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>>1362417
Which way let's you use her as a sex slave?
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>>1363359
if you sing the song of Elysium at her, does she shit herself?
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>>1363457
Can we get an option to surgically remove those nasty spider legs?
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>>1363473
doesn't it actually say dazzling display
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>>1363487
don't mutilate the spider girl!
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Bros, what's the best mythic path for a melee shapeshifter druid?
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>>1363499
swarm
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>>1363495
Think of it as removing a wart.
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So does second bloodline mythic ability fuck up bloodline shit after level 9? Playing dragon/abyssal strength scion and it worked fine for me till level 9. Got level 11 now and didn't receive the spells I should have gotten. They show up when leveling in the special abilities section and when I look at my characters abilities, it shows them, but they don't show in the spellbook. Anyone know a fix for this or am I fucked?
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>>1363499
demon
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>>1363503
but those are limbs, you should be thinking of it as removing an arm
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>>1363520
Aren't they useless to her?
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>>1363495
>Eating baked spider legs provides you with +5 bonus on Stealth checks for a day
those are emergency rations
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>>1363521
she uses it to show emotions or some shit
>There is some anxiety in Wenduag's eyes, she draws up the spider legs on her back
>>1363529
don't forget the other bonus
>Eating baked spider legs provides you with +3 bonus to Fortitude saving throws for a day
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>>1363532
That sounds incredibly creepy. Imagine the silhouette of those legs skulking around every corner in your castle at night.
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>>1363537
haha yeah imagine those legs wrapping themselves around you wouldn't that be creepy?
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>>1363540
go away mishulin, I'm not fucking the bug
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>>1363540
>tfw no bug gf that hugs you with her two arms and eight spider legs
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>>1363537
>she doesn't actually use her normal legs for walking but wanders around with her bug legs
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>Resting doesn't remove negative levels and ability damage from the rest of your party
Why? We have tons of clerics and other party members who can cast Restoration. Why do I have to leave, rest, then return to fix everyone up?
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>>1363603
There's an option to remove negative status effects upon resting in the difficulty menu.
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>>1363556
yes, you fucking the spider-cat
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>>1363457
would be best girl if she wasnt such a whore
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>>1362903
Based, I'll be playing female elf wizard going lich in the full game too.
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>>1361348
theres a bunch of nods to kingmaker. I didn't really expect anything but it makes me wish there was save importing for at least basic stuff. Army reinforcements from your kingdom would be neat too.
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>>1361500
I suppose being anticlimactic is the point when you finally kill her. but I hope there's at least a rip and tear option in release.
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Is elemental focus on acid worth it?
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>>1363408
>corrupting Arue

Rude and unbased. As you can imagine, Arue was made for many things. Sex, of course. She's a redeemed succubus, of course she was made for it – for bone-breaking, earth-shattering, toe-curling sex that feels straight out of Elysium, orgasms so great Desna herself sends you a divine thumbs-up. But she's great for a lot of other things. Arue is for hugging tight in the morning to forget that there's a world outside your bed. She's for breathing in her scent and wondering how you could go about your day without that smell comforting you. She's for gently tickling her sides and reveling in her delightful laughter, because it's the most beautiful thing you've ever heard, and for using her thighs as a pillow while she watches over you contentedly. She's for giving her a backrub after a long day and feeling her wings muscles relax and unwind under your touch. She's for pulling her tail by surprise to make her yelp and fall in your arms, and she's for princess-carrying her to your bed to show her how much you love her. She's for kissing, over and over and over, to soothe her every doubt and fear. She's for burying your face in her chest forever while she's stroking your head. She's for kneeling in front of her and presenting her one of those 'Half of the Pair' amulets, and she's for saying 'I do' together before that altar of Desna near the Lost Chapel. To sum it up, Arueshalae was made for many things, but most of those things can be summed up pretty quickly – she was made to LOVE, and she was made to BE LOVED.

Thanks Owlcats
Thanks Wrath
Thanks anons
And, most of all, thanks Arueshalae!
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>>1363677
Fuck off sperg
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>>1363677
based
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>>1362193
plate armor looks cool. thats it. dont fall for minmax shit Imagine the character you want and "role" play what you think is cool.
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>>1362288
the intro makes him seem like hes got his head in the clouds. but out in the world hes pretty sarcastically cynical.
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>>1362288
Even if I play evil MC, I always take Lann. A loyalty companion or servant is much better than a traitor.
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>>1363677
Based Arue appreciator
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>>1363374
Just play Trickster Aldori Swordlord and auto paralyze everything with your Disploooooom
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>>1363408
Foot freaks will corrupt her anyway
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>>1363712
what does swordlord actually do? also aren't most aldoris lawful?
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>>1363681
Get lost, incel
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>>1362701
The children of Aasimar are regular members of the other parent's race.
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>>1363408
its not corruption if its her natural state
you're just fixing it
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fellow crusaders, what we gonna do after mc close the world-wound? crusading against chelix devilfags?
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>>1363733
Daeran's mom was aasimar too.
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>>1363735
fuck the natural state
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>>1363735
aeon pls
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>>1363737
So she was incredibly lucky. Wouldn't count on the same luck.
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>>1363733
or aasimar
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love aivu but I regret going Azata. My bloodrager is not a fucking hippie. Doesn't Trickster synergize better with bloodrage in general ?
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>>1363762
Canon:
Bloodrager is DEMON
Exp Wizard is Lich
Arcanist is Swarm
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>>1363762
>his bloodrage isn't the ultimate expression of his deep-rooted desire to protect his friends
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dWpeOSlOTtc
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exploiter wizard or arcanist?
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>>1363779
Arcanist is currently bugged and can't prep spells properly.
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>>1363779
exploits are shit aside from potent magic, free teleport and magic resistance. damage doing ones are shit too.
exp wiz is better since it will have all interesting exploits, 5 bonus magic feats and faster spell circles progression
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I got a bug with Nenio where I can't access her spellbook. rip. It was an OG beta save playing with feb 15th version now.
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>>1363794
Did you pick a mythic feat for meta-magic?
Since that tends to randomly steal spellbooks.
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>>1363330
>Daeran bullying Lann
Does he also shit on you if romance the mongrel?
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>>1363801
Not really.
>"So, Lann and Commander. With all my sympathy, I am ready to bet two thousand on a complete failure of our scaly friend — he is too insecure. Sir Greybor?"
>"I double up and bet that Lann will succeed. The guy has a strong personality and he has his own charm. You can't underestimate him."

>"A sparring with Commander! Unbelievable! Although in some ways Lann is right... it really can spur people up... Sosiel, come with me, I know, deep down you dream of punching me."
>"I'd love to train with you. A glaive is a good weapon for keeping people like you at the distance."

>"Lann and Commander are together, and count Arendae owns me four thousand gold. Things seem to be going well."
>"I do not know which is worse — fraternization in our ranks or an attempt of other squad members to enrich themselves by these affairs."
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>>1363800

Yes I did in fact. :(
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>>1363677
>As you can imagine, Arue was made for many things. Sex, of course. She's a redeemed succubus, of course she was made for it – for bone-breaking, earth-shattering, toe-curling sex that feels straight out of Elysium, orgasms so great Desna herself sends you a divine thumbs-up. But she's great for a lot of other things. Arue is for hugging tight in the morning to forget that there's a world outside your bed. She's for breathing in her scent and wondering how you could go about your day without that smell comforting you. She's for gently tickling her sides and reveling in her delightful laughter, because it's the most beautiful thing you've ever heard, and for using her thighs as a pillow while she watches over you contentedly. She's for giving her a backrub after a long day and feeling her wings muscles relax and unwind under your touch. She's for pulling her tail by surprise to make her yelp and fall in your arms, and she's for princess-carrying her to your bed to show her how much you love her. She's for kissing, over and over and over, to soothe her every doubt and fear. She's for burying your face in her chest forever while she's stroking your head. She's for kneeling in front of her and presenting her one of those 'Half of the Pair' amulets, and she's for saying 'I do' together before that altar of Desna near the Lost Chapel. To sum it up, Arueshalae was made for many things, but most of those things can be summed up pretty quickly – she was made to LOVE, and she was made to BE LOVED.
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>>1363762
azata bloodrager sounds like a shonen protagonist going berserker over muh friends
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>>1363803
>>"I do not know which is worse — fraternization in our ranks or an attempt of other squad members to enrich themselves by these affairs."
Based Regill
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so legend route just means no bullshit mythical feats or spells? sounds based
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>>1363808
Friendly reminder than an Aeon can order Regill to execute Camilia.
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>>1363736
considering all the different factions that came together for it. probably turn on each other.
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>>1363811
nah you still get mythic shit by iomedae juice
probably archmage and champion mashed together
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>>1363736
>after mc close the world-wound?
Those are some bold assumptions.
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>>1363825
>different factions
outside of a few churches from other gods sending some troops its mostly mercenaries/adventurers and iomedae paladin/inquisitors/etc, once its over on a good ending those will probably just go back home or look fr money somewhere else, and iomedaefags go back to necro/witch hunting and shit
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>>1363830
>assumptions
Game file tier "assumptions"
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>>1363820

i thought they can do the same to wendy. and also begonethot.jpg arue. so aeon is basically the incel route
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>>1361859
Druid Lich, nigguh. Demons shat in my woods, now me and my undeath dinosaur will shit down their throats
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>32 point buy

How does he get away with it?
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Can you corrupt Aru AND romance her?
I mean, what could possibly go wrong?
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>>1363855
He’s the DMPC
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>>1363858
>"Do I hear a little...giggle...when I say the name...Biggus....Dickus?"
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>>1363832
I cant be bothered to type up a long post but theres way more than that. hell im already getting assassination attempts before this shit is even over.
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>>1363858
Apparently yes, you can "smooch the abyss" in the last companion dialogue with her.
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>>1363858
You can (as highlighted here >>1363408). And it seems like a pretty bad idea, if only because she's apparently back to her old habits, including sleeping around with everything that moves.
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>>1363858
That's the way to go as Demon. Well, that or Sosiel.
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>>1361264
>Herdwig sees your army of demons
>Realizes they're all outsiders
>Game turns into Doom
Brave Owlcat, Herdwig can't stop winning
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>>1363677
>she was made to LOVE, and she was made to BE LOVED
Cute and Based
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>>1363873
Poor Sosiel
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Lich should give his Graveguards magic rings, just to be sure, you know.
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>>1363803
The last one is Greybor, he's the one who bet against Daeran
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>>1363855
>Hedwirg and his wives start slaughtering demons
https://youtu.be/U4GmjvjB2Rw
>starts playing in the background
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>>1363801
Seelah bullies him too

>Seelah: “What did you do?! Invite her to weapon practice?! Lann, being hit in the face isn't a date.”
>Lann: ”Hush, hush! What was I supposed to do? Say: "Let's take a walk on the Wound! The moon is only slightly red, and the strange creatures crying in the wasteland with the voices of babies are not so loud today!"

>Seelah: "What, you're not going to arrange sparrings with commander anymore? Decided to come up with something better, and started a tavern brawl?"
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In the Midnight Fane, there's a hidden room with an Aeon Rift in it but I can't activate it, it just gives the dialogue about no one else seeing it. Is it even possible at this point?
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>>1363855
His need to put all outsiders in the cloudkill chambers gives him power beyond most mortals
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>>1361129
>Pathfinder
Is this the cuck game? The one where you get cucked by the girl who gets impregnated by a farmer or takes over your kingdom?
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>>1363915
It's for chapter 4
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>>1363913
>"Let's take a walk on the Wound! The moon is only slightly red, and the strange creatures crying in the wasteland with the voices of babies are not so loud today!"
I would.
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>>1363919
Aren't you in the Abyss all of Chapter 4? Do you come back out to use it?
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>>1363924
During all of chapter 4, you can go back to the midnight fane, just not back to the city
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>>1363925
Ah that makes sense. Is there a specific point you can go in or can I just jump back out and use it?
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>>1363932
It will be obvious when you are supposed to, it's like previous Aeon quests
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>>1363872
Who the hell plays CE demon wannabe with corrupted Aru and expects monogamy.
Get a pure noble like Camellia if you want lovey dovey hand holding.
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>>1363936
Thank you anon

>>1363941
>tfw no schizo murder waifu
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>>1363762
Bloodrager is class for Angel.
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So does Angel routes get to use their haloed cock to reform Cam Cam?
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>>1363827
>iomedae juice
Sound like legend is most cucked patch.
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>>1363677
>She's for breathing in her scent and wondering how you could go about your day without that smell comforting you.
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>>1363955
well duh, you just give up free power just because the source is eeeevil
and even then part of the angel path is being invited by iomedae later to join her angel squads for doing a good job, even she accepts it at the end
there is literally no downside to the mythic juice, nocticula or areelu don't have mind control over you or anything useless you accept a separate gift from noct
its dumb to even consider it
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Is there a fast travel to Nexus?
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>>1363979
Yes, the are various archs scattered that teleport you to nexus or other archs. However, to teleport to destinations that are not the nexus, you need to get coins that let you mark the teleports, so to speak. For example, speak to the bartender in the bar in the lower city, pay him for info and he will give yo ua coin for his teleporter
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>>1363985
I can't teleport to nexus for some reason, it's not on the list.
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>>1363992
Did you check the teleporter in the nexus? It's right next to the cave entrance
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>>1363994
Yes, it shows nothing but the map if you don't have any coins.
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>>1363995
Do you loot the first coin from Balor you kills under Drezen, right?
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>>1364001
I... I'm not sure.
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Owlkeks, where my merchantbot near anevia? It so tiresome to go to merchants to sell some shit.
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>>1364047
This and it's so fucking annoying opening these chests titled "goods". They fucking thrash the framerate for no reason.
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I am going to play as an evil sorcerer lich. But I cannot decide the race.
Character creation is too hard. Just choosing between sorcerer and arcanist was hard enough.
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>>1364058
Kitsune
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>>1364058
Anything but dwarf.
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>>1364058
tiefling or dhampir
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>>1364058
if you go with Sorcerer, play a dhampir. They can heal from negative energy and get a boost to charisma.
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>>1364058
Dhampir
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>>1363941
God I want to pat her head
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>>1363960
>>1363677
do aruefags really
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>>1364084
Yes. We really.
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>>1364089
Enjoy your wife's boyfriend smell
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>>1364065
>>1364068
>>1364070
>>1364073
>>1364074
I had narrowed to dhampir, human, elf or gnome.
Seems Dhampir is the popular choice.
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>>1364089
Based
>ywn lick icecream off her body
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>>1364096
Dhampir is basically the only option that prepares you for undead life.
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>>1364096
>No racial feat to give Dhampir a bite attack
I hate this. Also keep in mind that you really want to build someone up as your inflict healer. You can make cure channels work on you, but heal pot and cure spells are always bad mojo.
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>>1364058
>sorcerer
go gnome
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>>1364089
>when he starts singing
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Where the fuck are you supposed to rest in Chapter 4? Even the nexus builds corruption
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>>1364135
Does it actually build corruption? Resting using the fire site in the cavern and I did not have the issue.
You could try resting in the brother in the middle city, I guess
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Yeah, no fucking way skill checks aren't loaded towards you rolling less than 10
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>>1364128
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>>1364089
>happy birthday commander
>t. Desna
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>>1364135
Just ask the Hand to heal you, faggot
He even does it with no time passing and restores spell slots so you can basically be buffed all the time
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>>1364146
shut up small Cavaliers are cute
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>>1364151
Shit, I fucking missed that
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>>1364147
thanks mom, but I wanted a little brother or a little sister for Aivu
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>>1363820
Sure he can, and he can also turn Arue back to being unredeemed and retcon the whole story
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>>1364176
>retcon the whole story
Wasn't that only a shitpost, like Ragathiel showing up at the end?
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>>1364170
>You WILL continue Arue's Bloodline
Is Desna going to be the Chris Redfield of Wrath
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>>1364183
No, because at one point she warns you about the problems with dating a succ and lets you back out
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>>1364183
she already is
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>>1364179
{
"Key": "51b2fe2d-0c99-4081-8f01-c0c996e5e59c",
"Value": "{n} You take a step into the Ulcer, and your soul, your whole being is split into pieces. But this explosion is not chaotic, it does not give rise to random destruction, but successive, clearly measured waves rolling through the fabric of reality and returning her broken structure. And the last thing you see is the perfect beauty of verified patterns where the fabric of plans was once lined with tears and destruction. {/ n} "
},


I cant seem to find non-sacrifice ending for Aeon.
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>>1364058
Play elven necro wizard waifu instead.
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>>1364186
Care to post a key or a screenshot about when it's supposed to happen? Not that I don't believe you, but I'd love confirmation
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>>1364179
All of those are shitposts
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For fucks sake, this demon girl obsession is getting out of control. Just the other day I was hanging out with my crusader mates and we saw a hot aasimar lady walk by. I said, damn look at that lady I bet she has nice boobies and all my friends were like Haha yeah lol Haha and then my friend was like yeah and she probably has nice DSLs and we all were like oh snap lol Haha and then my other friend said and I bet she secretly a lilitu that loves cbt on crusaders too and then my other friends were like yeah Haha but I was like woah I want her to be a good girl and not evil at all and then my friends started making fun of me and they called me goodboy and started punching me in the shoulder and they kept making fun of me for never having had a lilitu step on my balls and they were relentless until I was crying and then finally they all started kicking me while I was laying on the ground and they left and I was just sitting there in the dust

So basically I'm not too glad about how demon girls are now mainstrean
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>>1364179
Yes
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>>1364263
Misremembered a bit, and she actually warns you off of breaking her heart if you don't plan to commit rather, but still
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>>1364176
That part about re-corrupting Aru is true, though. The dialogue has been datamined a long time ago.
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>>1364315
Dayum, is this for Azatachads only?
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>>1364321
The dialogue for re-corrupting Arue which everyone can do, that doesn't mean there's some special Aeon option for the corruption
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>>1364322
I was a Trickster so no
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>>1364328
>>1364325
>>1364315

Can you say "yes" and then break her heart by choosing someone else?

Or corrupt her AFTER becoming lovers?
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>>1364328
Are you have dialogue, when MC said that he love her (Aru not shadow)
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>>1364315
I see, thanks a lot for posting it.
>1. "I love her and I want to be with her."
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8MC0G-Lbuuk

>>1364322
Isn't that dream part broken for Azatas because of some special option not activating?
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>>1364315
>Desna "break her heart and I'll break your neck"
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>>1364347
MC and Aru will be together forever. Then they will adopt Ember. And Wojiff cuz Ember need little brother
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>>1364355
The Family Path is Azata --> Golden Dragon

>Aru - wife
>Aivu - daughter
>Motherless tiefling - son
>baby dragon - second son

All the more since it seems like going Gold Dragon is more of an add-on to an existing Path, rather than a replacement.
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>>1364355
brah Woljif threw rocks at Ember when they're were both kids, he's a shitty brother.
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>>1364362
>>1364355
Woljif is gonna get adopted by Daeran
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>>1364334
you can say yes and then break her heart by going DEMON
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"Value": "\" Before you answer ... Before your decision is final ... Look me in the eye. Please \ ". {N} Arushalai's voice is quiet, and her ruby eyes are full of sadness. {/ N} \" You have done so much for me {mf || a}. Helped me {mf || la} find my dreams and come to terms with nightmares \ "."
},
{
"Key": "d8b742df-9c87-46cb-b78a-a32e0ea4b7b2",
"Value": "\" Dezna showed me the way away from evil. But you - it was you who showed {mf || a} the way to goodness for me. I can't ... I can't believe that now you will become the monster of the Abyss! \ ""
},
{
"Key": "3c383d38-0b87-416f-909e-495a33b735a5",
"Value": "\" There, in the world of dreams, you told {mf || a} that you loved me. Know: I love you too! Let everyone know - people, demons, gods - I love you! \ "{N} The girl extends her hand to you. {/ N} \" Free yourself from the Abyss. I will help you!\""
},
{
"Key": "76d827b1-c96a-4a15-9450-5d75d709b977",
"Value": "{n} For a moment, it seems to you that your shoulders are hugging someone's weightless arms. While you fought with the snake that wrapped around your heart, it was near and fought with you. You hear her whisper: {/ n} \ "I will not give it {mf | th | e} to you, queen of dirt. Will not give it back!\""
},
{
"Key": "b5383587-3409-4105-82ef-9c45513b00fc",
"Value": "\" I am with you \ "{n} You can barely hear Arushalai's whisper, but you feel her presence, as if she were holding your hand. {/ N} \" I am with you, love {mf | th | th}. I will not give you to the Abyss. \ "
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>>1364343
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>>1364360
Not really. GD is full replacement. Azata will lose his island and free crusaders. Aivu sticks around but she shrinks back to her original size.
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>>1364360
>tfw all the scalie shitposting about that path has TARNISHED my opinion of it
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>>1364362
Sounds like normal siblings to me
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>>1364362
So parents will punish him, by take his money
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>>1364370
>redeem her
>get redeemed back
absolute kino
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>>1364372
Proofs?
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>>1364360
Pretty sure the tiefling kid gets iced when you get back to camp
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To those anons that asked this is what you get for letting the cultists finish the sacrifice and killing the demon
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>>1364381
The real reward is this though
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>>1364334
Jealousy dialogue and such aren't implemented yet, I was going for both Arue and Camellia with no issues
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>>1364381
>>1364384
Seriously though how do you kill it?
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>>1364379
Look into files. You will get to recruit dragons. There is no interaction with your original path aside from comment about turning form evil(if you were on evil path) and azata keeping Aivu.
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>>1364394
Maybe devs want to implement harem ending. Like it was showed on that stupid smilodon pic
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thank you nenio, very cool
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>>1364396
Dispel his shit.
Lan perfect striking.
Hide behind a door he cannot cross and wait him out
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>>1364371
Thanks
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>>1364396
I spammed as many freedom rays at him as I could while using the rest of the party and summons as meat shields to keep him away
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>>1364396
Target his low reflex save with web and grease to buy time (you can do this while the cultists are being sacrificed, you have 2-3 rounds) and dispel his true seeing
Once his true seeing is gone just tank him with displacement and mirror image
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>>1364401
>and azata keeping Aivu
how can other paths even compete aside from having non-broken Arue quests?
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>>1364404
Dialogue for picking between your romanceables was already datamined so no
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Where are the triggers for lich path after taking over drezen?
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>>1364407
he absolutely can cross doors anon, he'll wreck your shit in
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>>1364413
There really wasnt lot of Aivu dialogue though. Some comments about baby dragon jesus and few interactions with your path mentor
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>>1364422
I know. That was a joke
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>>1364425
Then I guess I got lucky and he was stuck in the geometry somehow once. Granted, that has happened with smaller enemies too at times
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https://www.strawpoll.me/42606053/r

Aru on a lead. Sosiel...not so much
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>>1364437
the absolute dilapidated shantytown of Sosielfags
Bah, who am I kidding, they don't exist, Sosiel is there for purposely romancing him wrong as a joke
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>>1364437
abused housewife(husband) lol
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>>1364449
Yes, as opposed to the great fanbase of Lann and Daeran
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>>1364449
I'm romancing him solely to be related to his bro
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>>1364451
Amber Scott would seethe
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>>1364452
I'd argue that at least Daeran and Lann are interesting characters with pretty good banter. Sosiel's greatest moments are about getting verbally abused by everyone else.
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Why did they make cleric of Shelyn a faggot? I hate stereotypes.
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>>1364353
Desna balls
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>>1364474
Have any examples? I only remember the one when Wendy laugh at him after MC choose her
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>>1364480
>Wendy laugh at him after MC choose her
really hilarious when you remember he's a Shelynfag and he lost the Commanderbowl to the bug
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>>1364480
the absolute verbal smackdown that Regill throws at him in one of their dialogues. Goes along the lines of
>Sosiel: oh nooo we have to ally with hellknights how come good is too weak to win battles against evil without them
>Regill: stop looking for excuses - it's not the good that is weak, it's you
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>>1364486
>and he lost the Commanderbowl to the bug
A
FUCKING
DIRE
RAT
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>>1364489
Oh yeah. I remember that now
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>>1364489
Regill would have a point if he didn't absolutely fuck up the vescavors incident
Or somehow thought making a Paladin fall would make them more useful than if they didn't
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>>1364474
Daeran losing the Commanderbowl to him is still the funniest reaction though
>"I have sinned a lot in my life, but I never thought that the gods would punish me so mercilessly."
>"I lost the war for Commander's heart, and to whom? To nauseously rightful church boy! I don't know if I can put up with this thought, or if it will break me as an individual once and for all."
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>>1364504
Regill did fine for me with the Vescavors I thought? Just had him stand and fight, don’t remember the game saying it turned out poorly other than two of the dudes saccing themselves
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Uh guys, wtf is Woljif doing there, prancing around in the sky? He isn't even in my party. place is Hellknight outpost
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>>1364506
Did someone keep the various "losing to Arue" ones? I only remember the Wenduag reaction about slashing her face.
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>>1364506
When I first read about Daeran , I was afraid that he will be boring...
Yet he is quite funny and interesting character. A bit like Zevran from DAO
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>>1364510
well, no, considering he sends dudes in heavy armor against what are basically demonic bees

turns out that yes, they can get through the visor in your helmet and wreck your shit

sosiel / lann fare better, with sosiel faring the best of all although suffering excruciating pain since he basically allows himself to be eaten alive alongside his squad while constantly healing the damage
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>>1364517
He suffers minimal losses which are entirely his own guys though
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so mythic finesse? Does this let my sword saint use dex for bastard sword dmg if I have slash grace? or are those feats redundant
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>>1364539
Redundant
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>>1364539
>bastard sword
I think you meant dueling sword, bastard sword isn't a finesse weapon
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>>1364552

No im talking about bastard sword, which you can use dex after you take slashing grace
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>>1364537
sosiel doesn't suffer losses
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>>1364557
Slashing Grace already gives you Dex to damage
Mythic Finesse is worthless for Bastard Sword because it only adds Dex to Damage on weapons affected by Weapon Finesse
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>half prepared casters cant merge spellbooks with mythic paths
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>>1364565
is effortless dual wielding redundant for regill? I don't know what feats to give him
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first thing i'm doing at release is installing bag of tricks and putting on auto roll20 out of combat to stop these fucking bullshit rolls, literally 90% of my out of combat rolls are 1s, 3s and 7s
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>>1364515
I found a few Arue-related lines in the archive

>Nenio: "Hey, demon girl who is no longer a demon! How do you assess the probability of having offspring with the commander? Given that you cut ties with the Abyss and turned to Elysium - will they be tieflings, or rather aasimars?"
>Aru: "What are you talking about? Offspring are, in the sense of... Children? I never even thought about it! Please don't ask me about it!"

>Regill: "The worst thing that can be done when dealing with a succubus is to succumb to her manipulations and believe in "love". Alas, the commander does not listen to the voice of reason."
>Seelah: "She is no longer a succubus. Listen to a paladin - we, unlike you, know how to distinguish good from evil."

>Ember: "Arushalae, you have always been so sad ... But now you have joy inside you - as if a small candle had been lit!"
>"You're right. I must be careful not to lose this light. To never let it go out."
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>>1364600
Should've picked a class and deity with Luck domain, loser
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>>1364576
Yes, Effortless Dual Wielding does nothinng for him since the other end of the Gnome Meme Hammer is already conqidered light.
There are a lot of good stuff to take with Regill
>Power Attack/Cornugon Smash/Shatter Defense (through Dazzling Display)
Helps his accuracy while using his high Persuasion, combines well with Fearsomeness from Hell Knight level 3. With a STR belt or the Destiny Beyond Birth Mythic Feat he can also take Dreadful Carnage for more Displooming
>ITWF, GTWF, Double Slice
Standard stuff for a dual wielder
>Outflank, Shake it Off, Fighter Tactics maybe Precise Strike, Combat Reflex/Seize the Moment
If you want to go for Teamwork Feats. Combat Reflex is also pretty good with the Intimidation Build for the Extra AoO when you use Dreadful Carnage or Dazzling Display.
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>>1364611
I had a lot of people telling me not to level the Hellknight class since it sucks and to keep going through armiger, what do you think
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>>1364614
Hellknight isn't as bad as people say, it's just that on 4chan a lot of the time it's memes and blowing things out of proportion. Fact of the matter is that Hellknight isn't the best martial in the game - it's not the best, it's not the worst. It's just average. It works fine for what it wants to do, even if it isn't optimal.
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>>1362288
I picked Wendu cause it's the beta and I figured I'd take Lann in the main game. Why is Lann LN instead of Good aligned? He seemed pretty goodboy in the prologue.
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>>1364623
Isn't the main problem with HK the fact that it's apparently bugged?
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>>1363915
>>1363919
Is that the room behind the barrier or a different one?
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>>1364627
That's Signifer, since currently it doesn't upgrade your domains if you're playing a cleric even though it's supposed to. The martial Hellknight PrC works fine.
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>>1364624
Dude's a cold hardass who's fine with leaving people not part of his in-group, to rot, also actually likes the Hellknights
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>>1364629
Huh, the more you know I guess
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>>1364614
I agree with them. HK is not in a very good spot right now since the available disciplines are mostly shit besides Fearsomeness.
Give him 3 levels of Hell Knight for Fearsomeness if you want to make enemies Frightened, though as with Kingmaker it can be a bit tricky to handle the fleeing mobs.
Besides that, Armiger all the way. The Damage from Weapon Training is better than what Smite Chaos will give you most of the time and the extra feats are good for the build options I mentioned.
Really HK just wasn't a good class in PnP and I'm not sure how they could fix it. It's like a more defense-oriented Paladin without Spells, Lay on Hands and Auras. The Pentamic Faith Discipline may help a bit, if they somehow implement the Orders' Obedience and maybe give them a way to make their Smites on par with Paladins then yeah it might be worth something.
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is it true that wenduag has a mutated mongrel penis
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Is it just me or is taking Bloodrager Second Bloodline ---> Fire Elemental Bloodline COMPLETELY BUSTED?

You gain immunity to fire (elemental damage most dealt by demons), IMMUNITY TO CRITS AND SNEAK ATTACKS, you deal 2d6 extra fire damage that bypasses resistance / deals half damage to enemies immune to fire, you can use Elemental Body IV once a day and all of this is when you're not even in your bloodrage

AND YOU GAIN THESE BENEFITS AT LEVEL 9-10 (or even at level 6 if you choose to delay Limitless Rage but I wouldn't do that)
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>>1364680
2 mythic chocies for bloodline and capstone is a pretty big investment, even for the sake of crit immunity. And for a class that can throw mirror image on itself
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>>1364687
It's only 1 mythic choice anon, and sure you can throw mirror image and displacement on yourself but there's a lot of enemies using true seeing
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>>1364680
Fire elemental bloodline is pretty good.
A sorcerer dip + ascendant bloodline is really good for any front-line character.
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>>1364692
You mentioned second bloodline.
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>>1364714
Yes, and that's for the second bloodline.
Unless you don't want to take Limitless Rage on your bloodrager which is... why would you do that?
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>>1364370
>Free yourself from the Abyss. I will help you!
the thought is nice but is it even possible to redeem oneself after becoming a Demon?
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>>1364716
I assumed you'd take the one to get the capstone benefit immediately cause otherwise you are not getting crit immunity till chapter 5. Only interesting benefit till then aside from a couple bonus feats is extra base speed and resistance
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>>1364729
God I wish
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>>1364729
Yes. You just switch to legend.
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>>1364736
Legend is the path for women.
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>>1364716
Haven't tried Bloodrager or Sorcerer yet, but I think the Second Bloodline progression is still tied to your Bloodrager /Sorcerer level, so you would need Bloodline Ascendance to get the benefit of the level 20 Power from your second bloodline.
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what's up with everyone having +30 to hit, this shit pisses me off
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>>1364729
I guess any early game mythic, including Demon , can go into Gold Dragon, Swarm and Legend.
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>>1364729
>Gold Dragon
>Legend

Pick one.
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>>1364750
If you are playing with a difficulty that raises stats, don't. If yo have progressed beyond the mid point of chapter 3, build your shit better
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>>1364739
Allright. Go on then. Dissapoint Aru then. See if I care.
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>>1364755
>implying aru will be disappointed with my 6 feet long dragon cock
you legendcucks are unsalvageable ;)
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>>1364757
My mistake. I thought you wanted to remain a filthy demon. Carry on then.
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>>1364754
Nah man I'm playing on Core but some stuff is way overinflated
"just stack more AC" like in kingmaker isn't good game design
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>>1364757
>aru will be disappointed with my 6 feet long dragon cock
Her's is bigger
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>>1364762
Like what?
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>>1364765
Like some random cultists being harder than a Balor because they have permanent buffs, improved critical and +25 AB
Did I mention tossing true seeing on them for good measure?
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Do most people play on rtwp or turn-based?
I like turned based combat but haven't actually used it yet, in this game or kingmaker.
It feels like it will make the game take much longer.
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>>1364767
>>1364765
Chorussina alone is literally harder than the demon she summons lol
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>>1364769
rtwp for trash mobs, tb for harder fights
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>>1364763
The correct word is "tail" and it's made to hug you closer to her and even hold tails with you if you're a tiefling
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>>1364769
I don't trust turn-based since we're still in beta, but I'll probably try to use it more to get more mileage of some of my companions.
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>>1364776
>he STILL thinks it's a tail
Anon, I...
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Any news about the final release date?
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>>1364789
Late Summer
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>>1364796
Which I wouldn't count on.
Some time in 2021 is a safer bet.
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Just entered Act 3 and vendors suddenly got a truckload of new stuff, want me to find something particular? Like a weapon or armor
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>>1364813
stuff that'd fit a paladin
also, just show off anything you think looks neat
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>>1364813
The game really lacks viable Two-Handed swords, of course there is always Greater Magic Weapon, but well...
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Hope the player can write biography in game.
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>>1364816
In case you don't know, there's a very good greatsword in a ruined village east of Drezen, +2 and blinds on hit
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gonna start dumping interesting act 3 vendor stuff
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>>1364820
Nope, they explicitly didn't add it because they "don't want to overwhelm players in character creation". Why didn't they just make a few premade backstories for the lzaies or just make it optional i don't know.

All you have are your introductions at the tutorial that afaik do nothing now.

My hopes are that they'll be used in the final confrontation with areelu as she's trying to bioshock you telling you you're a clone, an experiment, not a real person, etc
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Reminder to get Pets such as Memedon 1 point in INT at level 4 so they get 3 INT, meaning they qualify for tasty teamwork feats like Outflank, Precise Strike etc.
Of course this ain't needed if you are a Hunter or Sacred Huntsmaster, but it helps ones like Seelah and her memedon or a Cleric with Animal Domain.
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>>1364846
>pets with outflank and precise strike
Jesus Christ, why did I never hear about this before now
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>>1364860
What the fuck?
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Question- are there rules outsiders need to follow when travelling to other planes?- could an Angel hang out in Elysium or an Azata in Heaven?
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>>1364866
>all creatures
enjoy your frontline getting fucked up I guess
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>>1364854
>Hunter or Sacred Huntsmaster
>Pets with FREE Outflank, Seize the Moment, Shake it Off, Coordinated Maneuvers, Precise Strike and Tandem Trip
>Bonus Combat Reflexes at first level up
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man this game really has a shitton of good longswords
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>>1364868
I think most demons and devils cannot willingly planeshift to the Prime, they must be summoned there first unless there is a permanent gate like in the World Anus.
I don't believe good outsiders have the same rules, but they are also quite rare in the Prime unless invited first.
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>>1364868
Just do what the romans do
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>>1364868
Well, the same rules as when they hang out in the material plane, I guess. Technically, assuming they have a good reason, they probably could, and in the examples you gave there isn't a Blood War to keep the good boys at each other's throats. That said, IIRC outsiders always prefer their native plane to the others.
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>>1364874
This one+ Black Dragon Fang were my go-to combination for dual-wielders
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I'm done dumping for now since I'm taking a break, will start looking further into act 3 later
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Never played Pathfinder before and I downloaded the beta. What class can I play that let's me kill niggas with two swords and also uses magic? Sort of a spellsword with two swords.
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>>1364904
Ranger, Crusader cleric, Warpriest. Magic is for self buffing. If you want to actively use magic effectively for damage/crowd control, we enter more complicated build territory
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>>1364895
>>1364890
>>1364894
>no greatswords

mods it is then
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a shame radiance doesn't morph like on the tt
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>>1364917
forgot to grab radiance on my current playthrough
how is it in-game? does it grow in power at all?
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>>1364924
yeah, it gets stronger at certain points
you can go purification/corruption path with it too
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>>1363677
Absolutely patrician
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>>1364931
>>1364932
nice
thank you
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>>1364894
Huh, I forgot about this, now I kind of regret buying the Black Dragon Longsword for Seelah on my AT run, I'm broke as hell right now
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>>1364846
Azat also gets to share teamwork feats wit everybody.
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>>1364938
>ignore outflank and the rest of those teamwork feats thinking I don't need them since I can just give it to everyone for free once I become Azata
>suddenly realize Azata only gets two superpowers
Goddamnit
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>>1364860
Oh yeah. I found an item that summons a shadow every time you cast a level 6+ spell too.

>>1364890
>>1364894
Made for Ember.
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>>1364943
Given how wonky the progression is, I`m assuming its supposed to be at least 3 superpowers.
But who knows.
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Unavoidable fight with dragon always kills someone from my party. Fuck this, owlkeks
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>>1364963
What unavoidable fight?
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how to build seelah to be a not-shit tank?
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>>1364963
Should've cast protection against fire faster, bruh
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>>1364971
Can't build better tactics, sorry anon.
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>>1364971
Mithral full plate, magical vestment, some defensive feats, mobility 3, buffs (her self buffs and others), fight defensively with 3 ranks in mobility if needed, debuff opponents(Someone should Have archon's aura permanently on and so forth). Up to core and chapter 4, she did her job except for people with +40 AB and true seeing. And carnivorous crystals, but that shit is bugged/weird
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Man, Abundant Casting feels sooo fucking good.
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>>1361988
posting mythic gold dragon + Aivu protecting the GD egg
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Where am i supposed to go after i ambush the dragon?
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>>1365037
the next location's near drezen, easy to miss if you focus on the area around the ambush
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>>1365040
Thanks found it.
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Okay, what the fuck is that dragon quest? I half-kill the god damn beast three times(two times being ambushed without buffs) and it just flies away every time? And whats wrong with that midget? I could have done it all without him.
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>>1365100
Check a place called "Bloody Trail", it's southwest of Drezen and the Lost Chapel
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>>1365100
There is one last encounter
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>>1365103
>e
I am at artisan tower. It escaped again.
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>>1365100
And now magic dispelling mandragoras with 37AC. What a wonderful quest.
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>>1365100
>(two times being ambushed without buffs
Prioritizing Greater Enduring spells meant that i was always buffed with the relevant stuff when she swooped in.
I'd advise everybody to get greater enduring spells as soon as possible with at least either Sosiel or Daeran.
Such a fucking life saver.
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>>1365107
>he didn't kill it at the tower
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>>1365119
How can it be killed at tower? I brought it down to half its health and it flew away. I really dislike this type of boss fight. You are curbstomping the boss and he suddenly screams "Enough!" and runs away.
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>>1365107
Is that the tower where you find the storyteller?
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>>1365130
Yes.
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>>1365126
Did you manage to ambush it through the skill challenge? Try to do so if you didn't, the fight is a lot easier if your whole party is buffed.
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>>1365117
But Abundant Spells, anon.
I long for it
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Okay, now I am stuck in the god damn tower and cant get out. This was a backer quest wasnt it?
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>>1365133
Huh. Didn't know it could flee.
Did pass both stealth checks and let the dwarf shank it?

>>1365140
You can get abundant spell on your offensive casters and have the healer-buffer types get enduring spells first.
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>>1365117
Does greater enduring work with alchemist extracts?
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>>1365126
Pass the skill checks to fight buffed, save a haste to chase it when he flies to the other side, he does not run away immediately. The helth it has left at that stage is enough that I killed it with magic missile and Lann's perfect strike
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I miss having a bard.
And I REALLY fucking miss having Good Hope.
I can't be bothered casting 6x+ Heroism on every party member + animal friends.
Same for Inspire Courage + Competence.
I'll probably just hire a custom one once I hit 7.
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>>1365149
Og fuck, that's a great question.
I don't know, I will cheat in a bunch of money, create an alchemist mercenary, and test it right now.
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Alright Aruefags,>>1361698 here, time to check if doing Wintersun is enough to start her dream quest. Reporting as soon as possible.
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anyone know if fixes from new versions are compatible with older saves?
kinda want to play a hospitaler, but the fucked up channel stings a lot
could live for the extra week or two with it screwed till it's hopefully fixed, but also don't want to have to drop the save in case it stays broken
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Man how come this thread is so slow now? People stopped playing or something?
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>>1365159
Bards are great.
Buff everybody, sing awesome songs, all the while being competent archers.
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>>1364424
It triggers by itself and prompts you to build the ziggurat etc but what I want to know is the quest after that one to discover the mysterious link which stopped Zacharius’s ritual. Is it in the ivory labyrinth? I’m basically ready to go there now
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>>1365175
>slow
>it filled up in a single fucking day
kys
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>>1365175
Well, for one thing, the trhead was created early and the old one got quite a few posts before it was bumped off.
Secondly, 750+ posts within 23 hours is still a lot.

Finally, we have been playing the beta for like15 days, we mostly know what content there actually is in it
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>>1364945
>Oh yeah. I found an item that summons a shadow every time you cast a level 6+ spell too.
Doesn’t seem to work for me
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Does hellknight order really even matter? It seems like all the powers except intimidate>Frighten do shit all and it’s just smite good and axiomatic weapon;the class
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>>1365175
wtf are you talking about we're over 200 posts past bump limit
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@1365195 lmao
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>>1365175
These threads are extremely fast by /vrpg/ standards
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A neutral character does what seems to be a good idea. She doesn’t feel strongly one way or the other when it comes to good vs evil or law vs chaos. Most neutral characters exhibit a lack of conviction exhibit a lack of conviction or bias rather than a commitment to neutrality. Such a character thinks of good as better than evil – after all, she would rather have good neighbours and rulers than evil ones. Still, she’s not personally committed to upholding good in any abstract or universal way. Mialee, a wizard who devotes herself to her art and is bored by the semantics or moral debate, is neutral.

Some neutral characters, on the other hand, commit themselves philosophically to neutrality. They see good, evil, law, and chaos as prejudices and dangerous extremes. They advocate the middle way of neutrality as the best, most balanced road in the long run.

Neutral is the best alignment you can be because it means you act naturally, without prejudice or compulsion.

Play True Neutral
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So what do I give Daeran? Boundless Healing, Abundant or Enduring Spells?
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>>1365173
godspeed nigga
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>>1361988
>>1362015
>The poster for the lich didnt specify class
Wizard, classic and simple. Here is an angel lady, to add to the collection.
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>Turn based is better for large groups of enemies
>RTwP is better for bosses
It would be nice if they made them equal but its clear which is better for which. Animation times and the fact that turns happen concurrently in real time means that action economy favors you when you are a facing a singular powerful enemy.

I understand it was added later but it really does need work as the game is still clearly designed around real time and turn based puts you at a huge disadvantage when facing a boss.
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>>1365228
Yeah turn based makes bosses like vordakai a gamble in kingmaker. I thought death ward would make octavia immune to fingering of death but nope.
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Will Swarms be able to romance?
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>>1365239
Yes.
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>>1365239
yes, deskari
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>>1365160
>>1365149
Yup, it works.
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>>1365208
Apathy is death
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>>1365257
>t. partisan schizoid
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>>1365208
>A neutral character does what seems to be a good idea. She doesn’t feel
neutral in a nutshell
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>>1365267
Yes. That is the best way to be, anon.

"hmm, deskari is kinda annoying and genocidal, i feel like i should end him"
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>>1365253
Imagine the game without faggy forced shit companions and with self made team we want
Can i have such game as well ?
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>>1365279
It would be nice if the mercenaries were more like solsta's.
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where is my sneak attack bard class ?
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>>1365285
I'm still mad beast tamer bard and preservationist alchemist don't get an animal companion
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>>1364633
This sounds based, why are all his quotes posted here those of a little bitchboy?
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>W-wait, Arushalae! Now is now is not the time, we got Deskari to deal with!
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Are there any Druid classes that cut out Wildshape? I found WS really disappointing in Kingmaker but when I started casting Fearsome Might and just attacking as a regular person I felt I was more effective.
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>>1365300
Because he's both
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>>1365303
Drovier changes wildshape for Animal Aspect charges. I'm still not sure what animal aspect does, but I think it's the spells like aspect of the falcon, bear, wolf, etc.
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Did they announce they're gonna fix paladin's mount not getting 6 int? It really sucks they can't get teamwork feats for free
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>>1365311
paladin mounts aren't even really implemented
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>>1365325
You do know seelah can choose a smilodon at 5, don't you? I also hope they keep the smilodon, pnp restriction is not even a hard one, it's just 2 paragraphs saying "well paladins usually use horses and camels but like, you can pick other stuff. no we're not gonna specify was other stuff is"
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Was giving Seelah a smilodon mount instead of a bane sword a mistake?
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>>1365332
If you have no other pet in the party, it's not a bad idea. It carries it's weight for chapters 2 and 3 for sure
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>>1365332
No. Women get extra benefits from animal companions
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>>1365341
>It carries it's weight for chapters 2 and 3 for sure
He also carries seelah's weight.
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>>1365343
Women love big cats
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>>1365328
yes, and again they're not really implemented
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>>1365343
It ain't just women buddy.

>>1365332
Its nice if your party is mostly ranged characters.
You can use the animal companion as a flanking buddy and for teamwork feats.
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The Hospitaler's aura of life is worse than a normal death ward right?
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>>1365304
He did draw the short straw in life tbqh anon, dude's not even thirty and he's gonna die in like 5 years
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CAMELLIA TAKE OFF YOUR NECKLACE OF DISGUISE ALIGNMENT AND PUT ON SOMETHING USEFUL LIKE A +2 NATURAL ARMOR AMULET THIS INSTANT. NOBODY GIVES A SHIT ABOUT YOUR GURO FETISH.
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>>1365208
>cold, ostensibly unfeeling woman lies to and manipulates the PC, who has been granted powers due to a metaphysical wound on the universe, in order to manifest her iconoclastic philosophy that rejects the prevailing ideas of good and evil
You can tell Avellone helped write Areelu. Wonder what his relationship with his mother is like.
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Mandragoras after dragon is too much owlcats
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>>1365209
bump
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>>1365432
I did dragon in 2 tries. I did mandragoras in 5. Fuck that dispeller
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Any fatigue immunity equipment available somewhere?

t. Bloodrager
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>>1365440
Start with abundant, rest to taste.
Boundless could perhaps be a bit of a waste since A. he gets some safe cure feat by default
and B. with favorite metamagic (reach) you could probably replace it or nearly so.
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>>1365458
Not equipment, but Azata gets an ability that dispels fatigue and exhaustion from the entire party
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>>1365424
was avellone involved in motb?
areelu's shit reminds me of muh power of love from there too
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>>1365458
Just let your pally nigress touch you until you get your limitless rage.
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>>1365484
doesnt paladin mercy do the same?
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>>1365432
Fuck those things.
They got me to reload, those fucks.
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>>1365491
Yep, my seelah has 3 pal lvl only to remove fatigue from my 7 str minmax wizard
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>>1365466
ok anon thanks
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>>1365311
>>1365325
>>1365328
>>1365332
Now that I think about it, how many attacks are smilodons supposed to have? just a bite and a claw right?
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Would a "turn sosiel into a woman" mod be liable to getting deleted on nexus?
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>>1365021
almost like its nice to have a caster who can actually cast and not sit there plinking away with a crossbow.
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>>1365520
Don't they get 4 claw attacks and a bite?
I think Leopard gets two claw attacks and a bite that trips.
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What happens if you agree to cooperate with succubus in hellknights outpost?
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>>1365531
You get taken to the rape basement.
Literally.
Save the game and try it.
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>>1365531
She lures you in an isolated corner of the keep and sucks you dry with her friends why Regill sighs loudly at your stupidity in the distance
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which did you pick?
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>>1365546
LG of course.
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>>1365546
Neutral Good.
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>>1365546
I was LG and picked Death to Dissent
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>>1365520
>>1365527
>4 claw attacks and a bite
This. But shit is broken right now.
Strange enough you do get the full amount of attacks at first, just had that in Shield Maze.
But seems it bugs out after the first time the cat had deathdoor condition.
After that 1xbite 2x claws.
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>>1365527
That's weird. Both of my smilodon mounts are only getting 2 attacks total. Wonder what dropped my attacks down to 2 instead of 5
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>>1365173
Alright everyone, completed Wintersun and rested 80+ days. Still no Arue dream quest, and I very much doubt the Ivory Sanctum is necessary to unlock it, since it's supposed to unlock the last dungeon of Chapter 3. Thanks Owlcats, very cool of you.
I'm going to redo the siege of Drezen for the third time in a week, NOT recruit my very skilled and beautiful wife thanks to the power of Disney songs, and see if letting her simmer in her love juices for a while will be enough to kickstart her dream quest (once the dragon matter and the Greengates quest are done).

Wish me luck, lads. I'll report as soon as I can.
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>>1365559
>sing her the song, then tell her to fuck off for being a demon
aivu is the only winged qt i'm bringing along anywhere
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>>1365178
You mean melees with Reach.
There is literally no reason not to reach melee especially when you consider the absurdity of Combat Reflexes + Outflank + Seize the Moment and hell, Wrath even has mythic ability to increase AoO power + easier access of these to animal companions.
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>>1365407
>tfw even after she finally spills all the beans, she still insists on keeping it on
Then again it would kind of suck for anyone who decides to do cleric/inquisitor whatever builds with her, if her levels suddenly become useless because of going from TN to CE or whatever
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>>1365559
Things we do for love. I am sorry she is playing hard to get anon.
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>>1365571
Sure, that too.
I, personally, don't like to have too crowded a front-line, and archers are damn strong.
But yeah, teamwork feat blenders are definitely the way to go.
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