>suffer through Celceta>everyone tells me Felghana is the bestest Ys>it's worse than Origin in every possible wayFuck you
>>1187415Sounds like you don't like these games, so why do you play them?
>>1187422I liked I&II, and Origin is pretty cool
>>1187432I exclusively came to this restaurant and I strongly dislike this food I'm paying for but I'll come back to eat more shit food and pay for it too that's how retarded you sound.
>>1187601It's weird that you replied to that exact post in this manner. You might want to read it again.
>>1187415You were lied to. Dawn of Ys is truly the greatest Ys game, followed closely by Ys II.
>>1187609They fucked up Celceta so much, I was so disappointed how much the changed the plot of Mask of the sun
I like Adol's moveset more than the Origin movesets.
>>1187601Retard, he said he liked those other games.
Origin movesets are so much better it’s shocking. Yunica is literally the chad to Adol’s virgin. Toal is even better
>>1187415>he's still at it>>1181390
>>1187684I don't like the Origin movesets as much. Yunica's thunder axe thing sucks and her tornado is just a boring airdash. Toal's thunder claw is ass. I personally don't like the jump on his grounded fire tornado even though I do like the move overall, and I don't like how his rising attack doesn't allow for delayed strikes like Yunica or Adol.
>>1187415Sounds like a you problem buddy.
>>1187684You should deal with your brain tumor before posting anything
>>1187624my biggest gripe with combat and movement in general in both games is that you can only move in 8 directions. Even tho I enjoy how everything works that alone takes away at least half of the enjoyment from fighting.
>>1187415Felghana came out in 2005Origin came out in 2006I've only played Felghana but it makes perfect sense to me that a later iteration would be mechanically better than the predecessor. So why exactly are you acting like a moron?
>>1187945If I remember right, you can toggle 8 way or free movement in the PC version's options.
>>1187964>celceta September 27, 2012>viii July 21, 2016>ix September 26, 2019how do we go fast again
>>1187982no matter what you do it's always 8 way>>1187964how is that an argument you retard
>>1187732>Yunica's thunder axe sucksTrue, but the EX version is a lot better>Toal's thunder claw is assAwful taste. Anyway gaydol is worse in both forms>FelghanaHis fireball move is trash and Yunica’s flame phoenix is 10x better, his wind move is awkward and his lightning move is just a really shitty godspeed. >Napishitim Wind move is a bit gay, his lightning move is good but expensive and lacks versatility and his fire move is just lame. This version is better than Oaf of Faghana but lacks a niche or cool attack like the Origin trio (phoenix + fresh sword, force field, Godspeed, vortex claw + godlike demon mode)>>1187870kys nigger
>>1188149Ok I made a mistake, the chain lightning qualifies as a cool attack for Ark gaydol
>>1188149Thunder Axe and Thunder Claw are terrible, although at least Thunder Axe is spammable. Thunder Claw holds you in place, doesn't even do good damage, it isn't armored either. You only ever use it against enemies that aren't weak to anyone else, otherwise it's way worse than the other attacks. Seriously, I hate that move so much, it drags Toal down when he's fine otherwise. Yunica Phoenix just overshadows the rest of her kit since her other two moves are mediocre.Oath Tornado is god though. You can jump in the middle of your Tornado but it's not forced like Toal's fire tornado, you can practically fly with it since it lets you hover forever, it's so versatile and it's satisfying to fly through levels with it. The earth dash isn't as good but it still has its uses and like Tornado you can jump during it, Fireball gets less useful later but at least it's a long range move to round out the kit.
>>1188149>tells others to kys and calls them niggers>has a brain tumor and a nigger himselfno hope left for you but I do not wish you the quick end, subhumans like you deserve the suffering after all that shit you did
>>1187964This is even worse, why couldn't they continue the original story instead of just making shit up?I'm so sad Adol will never get together with Feena.
>>1188570>I'm so sad Adol will never get together with Feena.Ys X.
Playing Ys Origin as Toal on Hard right now.God damn it, is it bullshit. Especially right after Hugo's playthrough (also on Hard). Got to the centipede boss so far. Need to grind for 5-10 min before each boss else I'm 2 shot lmao. Wish I wasn't a try hard and just picked Normal.
>>1188610Don't even think about playing Felghana on hard first time, even on Normal grinding is mandatory because of how shitty save points are.Also I heard Felghana PC version doesn't have additional content to justify second playthrough, what the fuck Falcom
>>1187684>yunica plays like an even better adol>actually has a real character instead of being a lifeless doll everyone sucks off immediatelyorigin is literally the only good ys game
>>1188621Already beat Felghana (but on Normal), was playing in the release order. The PC version does have all content, even the English VA from the PSP version (but no JPN VA or text). The extra content is bullshit though, you need to beat the game on Nightmare to fight the two optional bosses, have fun with that lmao.
>>1188625Amen brother. I got meme'd into playing Celceta and the amount of Adol dicksucking was just INSANE.Not to mention that every single boss is spam flash guard to win, you can literally stay inside a lingering hitbox and just keep mashing the flash guard button for god mode.
>>1187415>playing Ys for the storyWhat the fuck? Play the games on Nightmare or don't bother.
>>1188687The level scaling on incoming/outcoming damage gets pretty insane on Nightmare. You either grind for 30 min or play flawlessly for 15 min each try.I wish the Ark engine games had a set difficulty instead of this weird scaling where even 1 level makes a huge difference. But this is the only real flaw with them.
>>1188625There is nothing wrong with "sucks him off" part, it happens in Ys I,II butbut past original arc it just the same shit, literally same fucking shit but worse. Like they are selling you same game over and over, changing names here and there. It's so fucking frustrating and sad
>>1188687>nightmareYou have to be an absolute autist to waste time on Nightmare
>>1188751The overarching plot with winged beings is kinda interesting though. I hope it leads somewhere, eventually.
>>1188759>he doesn't play every Ys game on the hardest difficultyyou filthy casuals
oath in felghana fucking kicks assfuck you
>>1188810OP is a retard who plays action RPG's "for the story" lmao. He probably has it set to very easy too.
>>1188759Anything below Nightmare is boring and mindless. Might as well play a different game if both the story and gameplay are boring.
>>1188829You might be autistic or just simply lying.Either way - fuck off retard
>>1188833Lying about what? Enjoy your braindead fantasy story.
>>1188839both origin and felghana has this retarded scaling as being said before with means nightmare requires insane grinding between bosses and areas, so this is where autism goes.On top of that you still have to play pefrectly like a machine, spending hours on every boss, which is very few people can do. That's where the lying part goesI didn't say anything about your being deranged mongoloid who can't read but wellKill yourself you subhuman retard and DON'T talk to me
>>1188850>nightmare requires insane grinding between bosses and areasNot if you kill every enemy you come across. If you skip everything, sure. Even then if you need to grind a level it takes minutes and you know when you are the correct level for the boss when it starts to take "insane grinding". Keep in mind you can kill every boss without getting hit, so technically level doesn't matter too much.>spending hours on every bossMaybe if you only play RPG's, and not action games and shmups. Stick to story based games.
>>1188872>>1188882Heres proof fag
>>1188872>>1188882>deleted his post>forgot his text
>>1188819nothing wrong with an enjoying an action game for its gameplay but ysfags unironically pretend like the story and characters are anything but mediocre uninspired shit
>>1188872>>1188882>>1188890He can't beat nightmare AND hes retarded.
>>1188890>being this proud of beating Hugo's route on HardHe's by far the easiest character to play as, as his gameplay style literally encourages facetanking.>>1188891We literally don't. All Ys games have very bad and very juvenile stories. You play them for the gameplay or just don't bother.The music is really good too though.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fhmfUOetWMk
>>1188759Get good shitter, I could probably wreck your ass in FPS too.
>>1188891>ysfagsSorry, pal, but we brokered a deal to call ourselves niggYs.
>>1188912more like trannYs lmao
>>1188628JP VA is easily restorable, it's a PC after all
>plays a game he doesn't like, but won't stop playing so he can say he suffered through it>plays a game other people like but he doesn't like it and he's mad>proceeds to act like a drama queen
>>1189109Indirectniggers aren’t welcome here. >>>/vg/
Just give it to me straight, should I low my expectations towards Napishtim or it actually has some improvements?
>>1189264It’s an earlier game, what do you expect?
>>1189264Use a guide for Napishtim, many effectively mandatory items are missable and/or hidden very, very well (like count 3 tiles from the end of this bridge and drop down to reach a secret platform with a chest).
>>1187601Are you thinking of food instead of good arugments? Atta boy
listen to this guy OP >>1187609play Dawn of Ys right nowafter that you can drop the series
>>1189264>it actually has some improvements?I think the setting and characters are pretty cool but that's it. Nothing extraordinary but I like it.when it comes to gameplay it's worse than Felghana/Origin, music is hit or miss
>>1190357>>1190618I should have just played in release order, FUCK
>>1190932>no dashing>no double jump>no boost>magic basically acts like the extra skills in party games, takes a while to get 1 (!) charge>platforming requires using the hard to execute dash jump maneuver>grind walls everywhere, you deal literally 0 damage if you try to rush things>you need to farm crystals to upgrade all your 3 swords 10 times each lmao>not following a guide means missing out on easily half of the gear>not 1 but 2 points of no return where you can softlock yourself if you're too weak/missing itemsWho the fucked meme'd you into playing in the story order? lmaoBut on the upside, Napishtim's setting and characters are really good and it has the most important lore dumps in the whole series, basically explains everything that's been happening behind the scenes.
>>1188222Thunder claw just looks badass, it sucks enemies in and drains their hp which is very metal. That’s why I like it. It’s also rather useful for hp recovery in demon form. Anyway Oath gaydol is just mediocre and unsatisfying, also I prefer air dashes to automatic glides. >>1188501Suck my fat cock you giga NIGGER
>>1191008Please no racism on 4channel.
>>1190610Isn't it really close to mask of the Sun in terms of story/characters
>>1191030My apologies, brother.
>>1191526don't ever open your mouth again you monkey
>>1188570THIS is your gripe with the game? hate to be the one to break it to you but you're a retard, buddy. the whole point of the series is that Adol goes on "adventures" and each one is a whole new experience, there's no hardline continuing narrative. this is like crying about cloud not being in final fantasy 8.
>>1188803>playing ys games with a difficulity
>>1193838>Adol goes on "adventures">there's no hardlineApplies to anything past 1,2,Origin, sure, but I'm a big fan of this original first story and its characters.>new experienceAs I said before it feels extremely similar to each other and boring, at least in remakes.And considering this is not even a first time that I have to repeat myself in this thread you're obviously a retard faggot and not me.And don't call every person who your mother sucked off "buddy", that's just inappriopriate and awkward for both of us.
>>1187732>Toal's thunder claw is assDepends on how you use it. Charge it, run into a group to bunch them up, claw 'em dead and repeat with the next group.If you stand next to an enemy and spam uncharged thunder claws, yeah it's going to be underwhelming. But bunching up enemies with it makes you kill much faster and lets you keep up a fast pace.The damage isn't even terrible, either, especially on Toal EX.
>>1196845what a lame bump
>>1195614It feels almost entirely outclassed by the fire tornado, which has a bigger AoE, armor, allows you to move while using it, it's multhit and has a fucktarded huge hitbox below and above so even if you hover jump with it, you can hit things below you and avoid their attacks. It's like the only time to bring out the thunder claw is to fight stuff that's only weak to thunder claw and resists to everything else.
>>1187601>Food analogyKHfan or Reanspic falseflag?
>>1188644Duren is just stating facts.
>>1196954Always felt the opposite about these two moves. I only use the tornado for stuff weak to fire.
Yunica's fire bird is the best skill in the game IMO, dunno why people meme her to be the weakest character. Toal has fuck all range on ALL of his skills
Why is Arena Mode on Origin so hard? Hard Demonic Core is too much, those knights at the end are crazy strong.
>>1199965You need to attack them from behind, dummy.
>>1187415Felghana is shit and Origin is the peak of the series
>>1196845>>1197807Kys Ys IX faggot.
>>1199960>finish story with Yunica>only bosses I struggled with are third phase Dalles and the scolopendra>just begun with Hugo>you hit safely every enemyIs playing Hugo babby mode or will it get harder?
>>1200799Some of the tower bosses are fucked with Hugo. I remember the ones that eats its spawn was total bullshit. I liked it a lot.
>>1200799Hugo is the easy mode while his brother is the hard mode. Yunica is not-Adol and the most fun character to play as IMO.Don't bother at all with Hugo's thunder and fire skills, just keep charging your shield and facetanking everything. Every single battle boils down to you re-casting the shield repeatedly and pew-pew'ing from afar, or even just running in and facetanking until the shield breaks and then you recast it 0.5 sec later.
>>1200806With Yunica that boss was just a long battle, but I was quite sure it wouldn't be that different with Hug>spam fire special with Yunica>spam normal attack with Hugo>>1200846I really liked using Yunica, I even liked her character.The problem with Hugo is that I tried to double jump when fighting but I still don't have that. But I'm not liking his playstyle.also, fuck me for reading spoilers
>>1200874Yeah, I really liked Yunica's story, especially all the Roy scenes, don't worry, he survives in the 3rd route and they do become a canon couple.I didn't like Hugo's playstyle either at first, but his story is worth playing for his banter (especially with Epona) and it's a good setup for the 3rd character who's a fast paced melee fighter with a very enjoyable moveset and his story is canon and the most complete.
>>1200874BTW, before you're done with the game. Assuming you're playing the PC version:- Press Windows Key + R, copy and paste this address string: %userprofile%\Saved Games\FALCOM\yso_win- Open yso_wiin.ini and change EnglishRoonic=0 to EnglishRoonic=1, this will let you see what the roos are actually saying without learning the meme font. Their dialog is pretty hilarious.
>>1200904That looks like xseed fanfiction
>>1200928XSEED had nothing to do with the localization of Ys Origin, they just bought the existing fan translation which was made by one person (and it's really good for a solo project, mind you).
>>1200893I don't mind Hugo as a character, in fact I was expecting a blander mage, but before the Epona fight I was legitimately surprised.>>1200904Unfortunately, Switch version and in Italian. I don't even know whether the Roos' dialogues are translated at all, since most of the menu is in English but dialogues are in Italian.
>>1200945>Unfortunately, Switch version and in Italian. I don't even know whether the Roos' dialogues are translated at all, since most of the menu is in English but dialogues are in Italian.There's a way to understand roos when playing as the third character. It's not super obvious but just think about it, hint: the roos are technically demons.
>>1200948Actually, I already thought the last character would be able to talk with them.Once I'm done with Hugo tho
>>1200769this is second worst story out so far after celceta ofcourse.Fuck this dumb bitch and her ugly faggot brother.Also Dogi is a trash character, I have no idea why they decided to drag him into next games, he barely appears in 2
>>1200959I liked Elena because her English VA is sexy as all hell.But the story is really dumb though yeah, what with Chester gut punching Elena late game just to suicide bomb the final boss lmao. It's a remake of a 1989 game though, so can't really expect much.The gameplay is top notch and it's what matters.
>>1200968Have you even played the game? There's no Japanese audio lmao.
>>1200992Having a bad day?
>>1200998yeah, some dumb nigger in this thread keeps replying to me with his garbage and I want him to shut the fuck upShut the fuck up
>>1201005>complains about the story>hasn't even finished the game yet>reads the spoiler tag anyway>gets butt madpriceless
>>1201011There is no reason to put the ending spoiler AT ALL, use your undeveloped brain for once you cretin. Your wrote mother did a horrible job raising you, should have slapped your dumb bitchy face twice as hard and twice as much.
>>1201017>wants to talk about the merits of the story>but then goes NOOOOO YOU CAN'T TALK ABOUT THE STORYThis is some truly schizo logic but whatever.
>>1200959>>1200769Also they ruined the only fucking good and sweet side character I cared about (you meet that character at the last location).What a fucking travesty, fucking Felghana and fuck everyone who thinks it's even remotely close to 1,2, Origin in quality.
>>1201024>Also they ruined the only fucking good and sweet side character I cared about (you meet that character at the last location).Who? The nun? That was a pretty cool twist IMO. Sounds like you're just complaining for the sake of complaining.
Anon in the other thread was right, ys threads are a mistake. Something about this franchise attracts the peak of autism
>>1201110Only on 4chan though. Steam, reddit, NeoGAF, GameFAQs, even RPG Codex Ys threads are largely civil, with people enjoying all styles of combat and story telling.I guess it's just a combination of a very niche series and anonymous posting.
Seven > VIII > 2 > Celceta > Dawn of Ys > Napishtim > 1 > Felghana > Origin > Kefin
>>1201121>>1201110There are plenty of dumpsters on the internet where trash like you can share their precious faggot opinions.So go back and stay there, nobody wants you to be here you goddamn imbeciles.
>>1202714I want them to be here more than you. What's even the point of coming here for no other reason than to shit on everything and everyone? It's not going to make you any happier at the end of the day.
>>1201121Yeah, and every single Neptunia game has those to plus and overwhelming positive score on steam.
>>1202736Only bad games get shit on here.
>>1202736I guess I was mistaken, completely forgot that there is a place just for creatures like you even on 4chan take your offtopic whining to the >>>/trash/ and stay there
>>1202744Then you would have me believe literally every game talked about on /vrpg/ is bad, and if that's the case then I have to wonder even more why you're here.>>1202749Make me. If my mere presence infuriates you then that's all the more reason for me to stay.
>>1202761Keep coping, there are games on this board praised by alot while ys and a handful of other genuinely bad games get their just deserts.
>>1200904If you’re playing as Toal then you can understand them when you’re in demon form lol. The demonic core one was funny.
>>1202787I don't care which games you've arbitrarily decided need to be shitposted so that you can feel like you have some level of control in your life. I'm only letting you know that it's not going to make you happier in the end.Please get some help, friend.
>>1200053Yeah but their stats are fucked on Hard so I end up getting gangbanged. >>1200992>>1202714>>1202749Holy kek why are you being so savage.
I seriously hope you guys have Ys IX, the best game of 2021, preordered.
>>1202808>YOU DON'T LIKE THAT THAT GAME YOU NEED HELPThe state of fanboys.
>>1202854>YOU DON'T LIKE THAT THAT GAME YOU NEED HELP
>>1188644I can't believe I'm saying this but Celceta do have a better story than Felghana.You don't feel like some kind of background NPC that does all that dirty work, you're the hero and it's your fucking story.See, there are things far worse than Adol dicksucking
>huge AF area with boss at the start>go through at least half of it and die at the stupid fucking place where you NEED to get the item and it's surrounded by 20 enemies stunlocking you>20 minutes of progress lost since the save is only at the start of location and at the end itthis game is embodiment of a waste of time holy fucking shit
>>1203755just stop posting, you're obviously a fucking retard, go play some Call of Duty lmao
>>1203776work on that googling skills BEFORE talking to actual human beings like me you absolute piece of trash.lmao
>>1203781WTF does this have to do with googling? You're too retarded to save after beating a boss LOL
Ark is the best game in the series
>>1203958ark feels like a beta but im sure you'll just say its got SOUL or whatever the fuck
>>1203958https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vfMejl0iIvUi dunno, doesn't look that good to me.
>>1205158That's a really fat pussy.
Fuck ys origin, fuck stupid tower.
>>1205959The tower is soul. >>1204008This feels like an MMO crossover event.
>>1205959>fuck stupid towermight as well say "fuck Ys series"
>>1187415Is it possible for a series to be underratedly overrated? Because Ys is that. The people who know about it tend to overrate it.
all gay family together