What retro JRPGs would you say are must-plays?I'll throw in Valkyrie Profile
>>9751916Glory of Heracles 4, Wild ARMS 2, Xenogears, VALKYRIE PROFILE
>>9751916Breath of Fire 3 was one of my favourites. Definitely a bit above average difficulty if you're not a grinder and don't make use of the Master system or enemy skills.
Mystery Dungeon: Shiren the Wanderer
>>9751949Came here to post Breath of Fire 3, was not disappointed. Keep grooving to the Weather Channel, my dude.
>>9751916suikoden 2, legend of dragon and grandia
it really depends what age you are, for example these are fine >>9752567>>9751995if you're under 16. But jrpgs that adults must play? I don't think there are any
>>9751916Phantasy Star series.You need to play all of them to fully appreciate IV.
>>9752576Agreed, JRPGs are far less complex and less mature than Super Mario and Sonic the Hedgehog.
>>9751995>Breath of Fire 3vidya magazines from my country hated that game back in the 90s
In Valykrie Profile, there is that system where you recruit a party member and then send their soul somewhere? Does this mean you waste your time leveling party members? Do you finish the game with a consistent party? Can someone explain this system?
>>9752601I'm 10 mins in and it seems as bland as hell. Can you give me a brief, spoiler free explanation of why I should continue?
>>9752661You choose which ones you send so you dont need to lose your strongest or favorite party members. Most people will keep their favorite/most used, so people’s endgame party will just be whoever that group of characters is.
>>9751916i'm not a jarpig fan, but i'd say>ct>xenogears>wild arms>FFT>bof3i figure if those are enjoyable enough for someone who doesn't generally like jarpigs, they're probably pretty good. i'd also say FF6 is pretty good and would appeal to a lot of people, but god you can just see square's disney cocksucking from way back then. i hate the tone of it, although it does several really cool things. i'd also recommend a guide for FFT and xenogears because you can softlock yourself unless you're very very careful.
Final Fantasy VII, of course...Than I suggestDagon Quest VIIIFinal Fantasy XIIValkyrie Profile
>>9752657that's true, but I had something like this in mindhttp://www.hardcoregaming101.net/strikers-1945-iii/
>>9751916>I'll throw in Valkyrie Profilewrong pic. that game is nowhere near must play status. no tri-Ace game is
>>9751949>the game is hard if you don't know how to properly play it.peak genius brain. you lace you own shoes brah? or mommy helps you? be honest
>>9752871please share some of your must play games because i tend to agree with you
>>9752661>Does this mean you waste your time leveling party members? Do you finish the game with a consistent party? Can someone explain this system?You only have to send up seven characters total to get the ideal rewards if you know what you're doing, out of maybe twenty playable characters. You can keep your favorites but pretty much everyone ends up rolling Lenneth/Arngrim/Lawfer or Aelia/a mage (usually Mystina). Except the third slot, those characters can't be transferred anyway as they're involved in the A ending's story. You get party XP that you can allocate in the menu to level up characters you want to transfer. If you play on Hard Mode (the easiest difficulty), everyone starts at lvl 1 rather than a preset level, meaning raising your fodder characters is much easier.If you go for the B ending, you get everyone you sent up back right before the final dungeon. I don't remember if this is the case in the A ending.
>>9752871Hands down the best story in JRPGs.
I love JRPGs but I don't know that there are any must-plays. Some people just hate RPGs in general, and that's okay. If you flat-out refuse to play any JRPGs you're missing out on some really fun games and some beautiful works of art, but sometimes you just don't like something.I think the closest thing to a true must-play the genre has is Superstar Saga. It's vibrant and fun and every second of it feels like it's overflowing with passion. It has good gameplay, a good story, and presents an acceptable level of challenge (especially towards the end). I have difficulty imagining anyone playing this game and not enjoying it, no matter how much they hate JRPGs.For JRPG fans, I would have to say Sengoku Rance. The gameplay is top-notch and I've never been as emotionally affected by the story of another RPG. It's, like, the tenth game in its series, but the connections to the previous games are more indirect and I think it's a great entry point. I've played it something like a half dozen times and every time I play it I discover something new about it that I love.
>>9751957nibba be popping like a balloon
>>9751934I recently watched a playthrough of Xenogears and the second disc really seemed more shitty than I remember. >>9751949Used to love playing the BoF ports on Gameboy. Must have been GBC or Advanced.>>9752567I was trying to discuss Suikoden in another thread but I confused it with Seiken Densetsu. >>9752653I really want to check these out. I used to lurk and post on a Zelda fan site in the 90's whose admin had a Phantasy Star avatar on his page. I think the forum was Ezboard back then.
Skies of ArcadiaPanzer Dragoon SagaSuikoden IIValkyrie ProfileDragon Quest IVTerranigmaFinal Fantasy TacticsLangrisser IISakura Taisen 2
Suikoden 3 and 4
>>9752869>>9752576You can spot the assmad N64 fanboys from a mile away.
>>9751916Has anyone been able to get the undub to work properly?
Phantasy Star IV, without a doubt>>9755347>Suikoden>IV
>>9757132Bro might just really like boats.
>>9757391And invisible walls at sea and awful voice acting
Why would anyone recommend Legend of Dragoon? It's mid as hell.
I'd be more inclined to play Valkyrie profile if the gameplay weren't shit
>>9752871>no Tri-Ace game isRadiata Stories has the best city of any game ever made.
The Legend of Dragoon. Engaging combat (for a turn-based JRPG), a beautiful world, a plot that, while cliche in some areas, is easy to get invested in thanks to the enjoyable characters, and amazing music with the best damn pause menu theme in the history of ever. There's a reason people are still holding out for a remake/sequel to this day.>>9759113No one recommended it until you brought it up.
>>9755347I just recently played through 4 for the second time in 20 years. I like it probably more than most, but it really feels like a small-scale game for better or worse, and maybe because of that it also feels very short. I think it's better as a kid when you still have a more unbounded sense of wonder at the exploration. Just started Tactics to play through next with my completed save file transfer.
Wild Arms 3 is my favorite. But since a few SRPGs have already been mentioned, the original Disgaea is a game you should play at least once (just be warned that the post-game is VERY grindy).
>>9754176>Langrisser IIis this even a JRPG though? It's a strategy game, and I'm not even sold on it being that good. fyi I'm playing it for the first time right now and I'm paused on loadout before attacking Cherie, Keith, Jessica, etc. so I can capture Liana. I feel like after wiping out the Imperials(except not because magic lol teleport away) that the plot would not involve me killing everyone but I guess the game really wants to hammer home some message of the whole "good intentions" shtickFingers crossed Erwin has some kind of redemption arcfeels like a clumsy D&D campaign that's gone off the rails honestly, so many breadcrumb messages/character backgrounds that have gone nowhereAlso this mission looks next to impossible, I just don't have the right unit types to handle 3 Dragon Lord+Angel squads on top of fighting inside a castle when the enemy has this much unit variety.
Tales of the AbyssHaving the mc be a immature asshole that everybody hates because he ruined everything makes for some brutal uncomfy self inserting, pretty much the Evangelion rpg equivalent
>>9761805You make it sound interesting
>>9753174I sent Lawfer and kept Belenus. Just found him better to set up attacks for Lenneth.
>>9751916>>9751934https://youtu.be/chTe0QYHaocWHYWHY LEZARD WHY?!!
>>9761792T-RPGs are J-RPGs unless you wanna act like a typical /vr/ clueless zoomer
>>9761805Tales of Phantasia characters were so dumb and insufferable I had to stop playing the game. must be a Tales thing
>>9761973why?They're fundamentally different.When people talk about JRPGs they do not expect FFTYou even name them T-RPGs, because they're different enough to get a different categorical name, but then say they are J-RPGs. So now how do I differentiate a J-RPG that's just a J-RPG and not a T-RPG? Would I have to say it's a non-T-RPG J-RPG? That's retarded. Expectably nonsensical. Categorizing T-RPGs as J-RPGs doesn't make sense isn't useful and nobody should be doing it.
>>9761989Tactics rpgs are a subgenre of JRPG.
>>9761989"TRPG" is a descriptor of gameplay. "JRPG" is a descriptor of geographic origin.
>>9762001T-RPGs are not a subgenre of J-RPGs
>>9762001>spot the weebhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tactical_role-playing_game#Western_personal_computers
>>9761989JRPG isn't a genre. It's just Japanese RPGs. It doesn't really exclude RPG subgenres.
>>9762146Nobody cares about westoid trash.
>>9761805Yeah, Abyss was uncomfortable to play for the first third of the game. Which is not an insignificant amount of time. The MC is just so insufferable and petulant it becomes really hard to watch the cutscenes. It's deliberate as I'm sure you know. His privilege and immaturity are key to the story, and he changes a lot throughout the game. But fuck if that doesn't make it hard to keep playing. Some of the dumb shit the MC said made me want to throw my controller at the wall>>9761816If you like character development and seeing someone change slowly for the better, it is interesting. I like Tales games a lot, so I have a high tolerance for them, but even I found myself wishing the game was centered around the side chars instead of the MC
>>9762146I tried the game from your picture and it was really boring and made me want to commit suicide.
>>9762146Nobody cares about your victim complex or your shitty games, westcuck. Go dredge the FASA forums or something.
>Dragon Quest 3Easily my favorite in the series because of how you can be pretty flexible with your team. You can change them after they reach level 20 as well.>Final Fantasy 5Job system and the mix'n'match capabilities it gives you are a blast to play with. Being able to configure your party for each upcoming boss is very nice.>Chrono TriggerParty changes lead to different team powers, wild ride of an adventure, multiple endings, and built-in New Game+.There are prettier JRPGs with far better stories, but I would say those three JRPGs have the most enjoyable gameplay, and are the most replayable. The later DQ games may be favored by fans, but I always felt DQ3 had the snappiest gameplay and didn't constantly rotate out your party members. Other FF games may have better plots and music, but FF5's job system gives you more to do and try out than most FF games. And Chrono Trigger's New Game+ was the new feature RPG fans never knew they wanted before. Other RPG's and even romhacks have copied it.
>>9751916Phantasy Star IV>>9752653I played IV first and it made me appreciate the other ones more when I played through them later. IV does such a great job with the lore, it made me excited to see all of it playing out in real time as I played the earlier games.
>>9759680>people are still holding out for a remake/sequel to this dayReally?All I remember is the marvelous castle music.