This is better than half of the other retro sonic games and that's fucking funny
What does R stands for?
>>9148961Racism, it's based on 4channel.org
>>9148960I don't understand the sonic bad meme, sonic games are easily one of the best platformers of the 90's, most platfomers back then were crap
>>9149005Retro includes gcn nowadays grampa
>>9148960CAN YOU FEEL THE SUNSHINE
>>9149014I still hold to my opinion that sonic was one of the best platformers back then, I just feel like that changed in 2010, where the internet brought in a greater number of games.
>>9149018Every 3D Sonic game is heavily flawed somehow. EVERY one.
>>9149019Yes, but they are great games. i prefer sonic than your typical collectathon.
>>9149014>graphics that are indistinguishable from modern games are also retro
>>9149031>SA2B5/10 being generous>HeroesBad>ShadowComplete dogshit
What about sonic 3D blast, anon?!
>>9149005The modern gaming zeitgeist is written by ~30 year old millenials from the United States who grew up on nintendo trash, so to them, anything nintendo made was amazing and revolutionary, and anything that isn't nintendo is retroactively bad because it just is, ok?
>>9149267But surely if you grew up on NES you should realise Nintendo's decline over the years with bloat and baby mode injected into all their games.
>>9149287>declineThat's the problem, nintendo was never good.
>>9149032that is not a gamecube game
>>9148960I'll take Sonic CD over any of the Saturn games. At least you posted the superior PC version though
>>9149247I like it. MD/Gen OST is real fucking good
>>9149287What is "baby mode" and how it differs from "adult mode"?
>>91490182007 was the nail in the coffin, which really started wtih Heroes just being a bad follow up to the already flawed adventure games.
>>9149809things changed when sonic fans started releasing fan games, they just play better than new sonic games and i don't know how frontier is going to be better
>>9149579Yeah anon,The games soundtrack is amazing
>>9148960No, it's not. It's shit.Great soundtrack though.
>>9149824>things changed when sonic fans started releasing fan games, they just play better than new sonic gamesSo like 2005?
Imagine you're tasked with writing an europop song where the prompt is "write a song about crystals in space"All things considered I'm surprised at how well they did.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J81_NbpiZb4
>>9149267Sonic has been on Nintendo consoles for over 20 years and is pretty tight-knit with Nintendo. People generally only call the 3D ones bad and it's because they actually are
>>9148960WHAT THE FUCK IS A SONIC
>>9150169sonic as in the speed of sound
>>9149126Kill yourself you fat retarded faggot
>>9151338absolutely seething lmao
>>9149702>what is baby modeDouble Cape, blue yoshi, farmable lives.
>>9149014We need aword for games that are old but aren't retro. Stuff like Gamecube.Someone think of a name.
>>9151426It's called "the 2000's"
>>9151426Another anon already suggested splitting the board and calling this kind of stuff /vr2k/
>>9151426Retro should have shifted to accompany gamecube by now, with everything else falling into vintage or antique status but /vr/ isnt ready to have that discussion.
>>9151643I was thinking more magnavox, coleco and atari for antique but sure pretend thats what i meant.
>>9151762You want to pretend NES isnt retro and gamecube is because you are underageb& and retarded
>>9151832The passage of time is unending and your death is inevitable. I'm sorry anon. As I said, you're not ready to have this conversation.
>>9151867>N64 isn't retro but Gamecube isyou don't have have a point you're just a retard
>>9151867>As I said, you're not ready to have this conversation.Did you actually say that anywhere? lol
>>9148960It isn't even half a game. If every stage were 3x better than mainline Sonic games, it would still be a lesser game than them overall.
>>9152107Right here.>>9151621>>9151993I don't even know how you came to that conclusion. Here, let me actually draw some lines so you attack what i'm actually saying.Gen 1-2 (Atari/Pre vg collapse): antiqueGen 3-4 (Nes & Snes/2d era): VintageGen 5-6 (n64 and Gc/Early 3d era): RetroGen 7: Just kinda old.Each new generation pushes the previous ones back one. Even if you don't agree with the list or timing, you'll eventually have to accept the gamecube is a retro console. What, were going to go another 10 years holding the line?
>>9152317Not him, but that's why I said in the other thread just go by decade. 80's gaming, 90's gaming, 2000's gaming. The same method is used for music and movies. Retro movies can mean anything from Charlie Chaplin to Sam Raimi Spider-Man, that's why we use decade numbers
>>9152317>i dont know where you came to that conclusionYou nigger. You literally said Gamecube is retro and all others should be considered vintage and antiques. You are a retard. nobody cares what arbitrary words you want to ascribe to things.
How is Gamecube not retro?>Released more than 20 years ago>Last games released 15 years agoDreamcast was only like 13 years old and N64 16 years old when /vr/ started.
>>9149005Because the last good 3D sonic game to cone out was Adventure 2 on the fucking dreamcast. Every game after that has been shit (yes, including Heroes, unleased, colors, and Generations) and the last good 2D sonic game before Sonic Mania was fucking Sonic Advance 2 Literally all sega has to do is emulate the gameplay/gamefeel and level design philosophy of Adventure 1 and 2, while making the characters easier to controller is the only changes they need to make. But instead, the fucking insist on using the new homing mechanic that feels like slugshit, making the gameplay like framing Temple Run where it moves forward for you, and adding gimmicks like forced 2D segments, werewolf shit, and whatever the fuck those things from Colors were.
>>9153515It is retro, but unfortunately we have retards here that think "retro" is a "style" and not age.
>>9148960Maybe if you're including the GameGear games. I like Sonic R, but I'd still rather play Spinball or the DX port of Adventure.
>>9153415Aight fair I did say everything. Wouldn't say no one cares though, you seem to care way too much.
>>9153542Sa2 and advanced 2 were both the start of the decline.
>>9153542>the last good 2D sonic game before Sonic Mania was fucking Sonic Advance 2Advance 3 was better.
>>9153770Im just calling you a retard, not a single person in this thread took anything you had to say seriously
>>9153970And advance 1 was better again. Man, I wish I loved sonic advance 3, the team mechanics are interesting and open up so many options but the level design is still loves to ram you into enemies amd focues on speed section entirely too much like sa2. If sa3s level design was more in line with sa1 and the classics it could easily be my favourite.>>9153952I think the exact moment it started going downhill (hehe) was when they decided to replace their prototype windy valley. The difference between the beta and final shows exactly what direction sonic team wanted to take sonic, making speed more extrinsic to sonic with each release.
>Better thanLabyrinthBlast3D Blast (debatable)Tails' Sky PatrolDriftDrift 2>Not as good as123&KCDChaos/Sonic & TailsTriple Trouble/Sonic & Tails 21 8-bit2 8-bitTails AdventureNot quite half, OP. You should get better at math.
>>9154178I'd very happily play Sonic R over any of those games and I'm not just joking.
>>9154810Sonic R is a jank formula 1 racer. Sega made so many good racing games and that's the one you want?
>>9154820I'm just stating my truth, which is that I would rather play Sonic R at this moment over any of the games you listed.
>>9154823Your truth is wrong.
>>9148960It's nowhere near as good as the Genesis games, but it's still fun. I got it for the Saturn one Christmas and my brother and I played the shit out of it.
>>9148960That's because the vast majority of sonic games are shovelware garbage. R is a unique experience
>>9149016>>9153542>Literally all sega has to do is emulate the gameplay/gamefeel and level design philosophy of Adventure 1 and 2literally sonic 06
All the Sonic games are so short how did Super Mario World come out before them and Sega never even tried to top it?
>>9154820No one said anything about other SEGA racers, OP said half of the other Sonic games>>9154827Stop pretending to be me you fucking bitch
>>9151426The word you're looking for is allowed. Just because you're """""allowed""""" to talk about GC in the retro game board doesn't mean it's retro, it just means we were forced to tolerate its presence by some retarded mod, or janny, or whoever had the brilliant idea.
>>9154959>stop pretending to be meI'd have to become a nu-gamer zoomie for that to happen.
>>9154827>your opinion is objectively incorrect b-because i say so (inhales copium, then strikes a pose, thinking they look cool and not like a retard)
>>9155093How am I a zoomer when I'm talking about exclusively retro Sonic games including the 8-bit games like fucking Chaos and Drift?
>>9155162Post your birthdate then.
>>9156908>1995So the zoomer reveals himself.
>>91575051995 is borderline at best, most places will just call it millenial
>>9157519If you're not born in the 70s or early 80s you're a zoomer.
>>9157505If I'm a zoomer, then what are you?
>>9157559A poster who has every right to be here as the 2600 was my first console.
>>9154882This, it really feels close to both of the Adventure games. Hell if you want to stretch it you could say the first Sonic stage in that game is meant to be a rip on SA1’s with the blue whale and tropical setting.That and the crazy plot, the HUB world, the multiple storylines, just let down by technical issues and being overly ambitious on new hardware.
>>9149032>>9149014Post-Y2k games aren't actually considered retro. The sticky was edited just to reduce the janitors' workload.
This game made me realize drifting should've been implemented more in 3D sonic controls.