You can only have one controller to play all your /vr/Which one?
Dualshock 4 obviously</thread>
>>8499431This, unfortunately, it's just the obvious more comfortable choice, but I'd absolutely hate to be stuck with only one :(
>>8499425In that picture, I like the F310 the best
Clicky Neo Geo CD ControllerWhat I'm forced to use because I'm poor and straightgay:PS4 for the luxurious sticks.
>>8499425for me the sexbox/xbone controller is very comfortable
>>8499425>No Sega Saturn controller as an option even though it's one of the best.
>>8499425ps4 with back paddle attachment im sorry man dualsense cant compete SWGX
Original DualShock controller. Great ergonomics on that beast.
Where should I go for retro controllers now? I have one working controller for each of my consoles, but I'd like at least 2 for co-op. Problem is literally every 3rd party controller I've bought has broke within a week. I see a lot of products these days that look identical to their 1st party counterparts, but I don't know if they're worth it at all. I just want a PS2/PS3 controller...
I'll go with the DS4 unless it's one of those shitty new ones that have a lightbar on the front. Otherwise I'll take the F310. Everything else is just third party trash or a shitty xbox controller.
I used to have that LogiTech controller, but got rid of it because I said I would never play games again. I miss it.
>>8499425I use the logitech one already, so...
>>8499651PS3 controllers are rough since there are a ton of really good fakes on the market. Bought one in the package and it looked great. Perfect aesthetically but as soon as you tried to play a game you could tell the sticks were fake. You couldn't hit L3 and run at the same time. Which you can on real controllers. Took it apart and what do you know it's fake.PS2 controllers I've never worried about since I have like 6 of them.
Genesis 6-Button tastefully mutated with two analog sticks.
>>8499431>>8499442>bitch sized hands detected
>>8499431Yeah me too. I played a lot of PSX and PS2, so after my 360 controller broke I went right back to PS and got a PS4 controller. It's very comfortable and I love the little lip on the L/R2. It's just so comfy and the only downside is it's not made of metal or something.
>>8499425No, I have all original hardware for a reasonEach console plays best with its intended controllers
>>8499786Except Dreamcast and Master System.
Honestly this, but swap the d-pad and left stick and add shoulder bumpers.
>>8499835There's nothing wrong with the Dreamcast controller unless you have girl hands.
>>8499869I have big hands and you have to really contort your pointer finger, also it really fucking wears on your 2nd joint. It's not comfy at all. The red circle is my finger end being SMASHED in to the plastic.The blue circle is where my finger is being forced to bend unnaturally and the trigger is jamming in the joint.The green circle is me having to bend my finger back to get it up around the damn sides while my hand is cupped.
I don’t see the true and best controller in your post, OP. Allow me to post it for you
>>8499425Umm maybe the first xbox 1 controller. Personally I'd rather have a stick or steering wheel.
>>8499895why the fuck did they make those top buttons smaller?would be a GOAT controller if all the buttons were the same size
>>8499425A Dualshock, probably the 4 or 2.It's not the best at everything, but it's the best all rounder.
>>8499425I had that kyperkin genesis remote. After like a year the buttons just straight up died. I was using it for all my vr. The C button just gave up.My answer would be the ps4 dualshock.
>>8499889I remember this happening to me
>>8499869Dpad cuts into your thumb, cord placement and its not comfortable to hold for long periods of time.
>>8499889Why the fuck are you pressing the trigger with the middle section of your finger
>>8499835I love the master system but holy fuck that mushy as hell d-pad can rot.
>>8499425But I have hundreds of controllersHave fun playing with yourself
>>8499431Dualshock 5 or 8bitdo Pro 2 are better.
>>8500854Learn to read for comprehension.
>>8499425Dualsense >>84994312 years ago I would have agreed
>>8499869im 6'6" and i love the Dreamcast, but the controller isnt comfortable. especially coming from the genesis and saturn which both have incredible pads
>>8500975what's that gif from, anon?
>>8499850Based. I use that for PS2/Gamecube emulation. I wish I could afford a few 1st party controllers for my hacked Wii when we babysit my gfs nephews tho.
>>8500307So I don't have to stick my finger way out and press with the end, thus contorting it EVEN MORE. >>8502723This. The controller gave me arthritis when I was fucking 17yo.
If strictly speaking about /vr/ games only then Sega Saturn pad. A mix of /vr/ and modern then DS4 for d-pad in primary position and gyro +flick stick aim. I've yet to get my hands on a DS so I don't know if I'd like it more than a DS4. If I have to decide now and forever, DS4.
*blocks your path*
>PS4 but no Gamecubeif you're gonna cheat with nonretro in the OP I'm gonna cheat and say Gamecube controller.
>>8503209oof nice one
>>8499425For me it's the future handheld that can be a controller too.
The ideal all-in-one controller should have, at the very least:>six face button layout>two shoulder buttons + two triggers>d-pad in primary position>two analogue sticks in the lower positions, preferably with a gamecube-style octagonal gateSomething like that would be able to suit more or less everything, including n64/saturn without having to compromise with rearranged control schemes
>>8504780Retrobit had a prototype dual analog/trigger Saturn pad they showed years ago but they never made any.And yes, that would be ideal.
>>8499425duke OG Xbox controller, step aside babby hands
>>8506285I Have babby hands and I still thin the Duke is comfy as fuck, I never understood why people needed the revision in the first place.
>>8500872>8bitdo Pro 2I'm thinking about getting one, but why doesn't it have a wire? I want a controller with a wire
>>8499425There is only one controller and its in the bottom right
>>8506439You can use the type-c cable it comes to have a direct connection, I never use it wirelessly.
>>8499425wiiU pro controller
>>8506772Yes, the d-pad is my favorite, the sticks being on top feel so good for me and they're nice and low. The only thing that could be better would be having analog triggers with a click at the bottom for GC emu but otherwise I think they're on top for me.
>>8500975>You just know
>>8504472anon I have anime version of kitty
>>8506813Unbelievably based. I love to play The King of Fighters ‘96 while listening to the grammy award winning album ‘Minute by Minute’ featuring the hit song ‘What A Fool Believes’ while using my Michael McDonald fight stick
>>8506827needs more frew up
>>8506139Jaguar came close to this
>>8504472The future is too exciting.>>8499425
>>8499425I pick the duke
>>8499425F & H
>>8507128>Blocks yo ass
>>8503562This looks like something CWC would draw
>>8508548Well, I sent it to a Powkiddy representative. And he passed it on to their engineers.
>>8499473the clicky sticks are the best. ive got a neo geo pocket and i love it to death
>>8503562Well, at least it has a headphone jack...
>>8510048Such is the state of nu-/vr/ that I can't even tell if this is a troll or not
>>8510485At least. ?
>>8510485>headphone jackthat's not for headphones, thats how you plug in the volume control unit (sold seperately)
>>8499869It's a straight up downgrade from the Saturn 3D pad in a ton of areas with the exception of maybe the analog stick. There's less buttons, and the D-pad is genuinely atrocious, especially in fighters like DoA2.
If I got to choose, probably a DualShock 2.
>>8499425Saturnit's only a problem for the N64 but I've already played its 20 games library and can live without it
DS4but it really needs six face buttons
Switch Pro Controller
You have things like these, but allegedly they all suck.
Out of what's displayed I guess the DS4. The Duke was the most comfortable controller I ever used though I may have a different sentiment if it had shoulder buttons.
>>8512561Look into the new Hyperkin Duke controller my dude, it's fucking sweet. It's wired but replaceable and it has shoulder buttons
>>8499425Would fucking kill myself if I had to use an F310 again, I spent 6 years with it already and refuse to go back to it
PS4 controller any fucking day. Absolute state of Xbox and weebshit Nintendo controllers
>>8510485>>8510878>>8510507>>8511005>>8504472>>8508548Is this slightly better?
>>8512581Those buttons are not very ergonomic. They're just too small and tacked on. The top wasn't a part of the originals ergonomics, so they could've changed it a little bit.
>>8513665True! I agree, I hope there is a revision in the future for better shoulder buttons but at least they are there. Now if only they set the OLED screen up for something other than nostalgia, like.. letting me put my waifu on there :3
>>8499425The Logitech controller since it's the only one in the pic with dual analog sticks that isn't wireless trash.
>>8513672Maybe you can hack/mod it? Try searching for info on it. kek. They could've added the Xbox 360 mold top for the shoulders. Would've been adequate.
>>8513653So you're saying you're serious and that email screen shot is legit?
>>8499425>posting the shitty baby handed version of the genesis controllerNo, fuck that. Give me that meaty OG controller with those satisfying hard plastic buttons
>>8513967HAHAHAHYes, It's just an idea man. What are your contributions to this endeavor exactly?
>>8499425I used to have this controller. The buttons were mushy and those plastic analog sticks sucked, but the layout was perfect for emulation. I can't believe they ditched the layout and never brought it back. It was perfect for every single console.
>>8503209this controller is legit perfect. more comfortable than you can imagine without having tried it
>>8513653yeah anon it's perfect
>>8513653I actually think even though probably no one would use them. The alternative uses for the diagonal separation switch buttons would total 71.*4 cardinal directions on a rocking base.*4 diagonal separate buttons.*8 combo 16th N/NE buttons. [a cardinal+diagonal.]*Pushing 2 or more diagonal buttons at once to make a new command = 11 but with a cardinal 5th button 11 for each direction = 16+55 = 71Kek, no one would push both diagonals by accident. And since it won't register presses of multiple cardinals, it should work. Games that won't use it will just filter out the presses, unless you mapped to them.
>>8514409Thanks fren. I think a rough idea is all anyone needs really. I mean, I could spend a long time in Rhino 3D or numerous other 3D modeling software. But I just wanted to get across simple ideas that aren't being implemented. But it's like my Dad used to say. "You don't ask, you don't get." Hopefully they seem to listen to us on occasion and in the next year or 3 this or something similar will get made.
>>8513983Your endeavor seems to be embarrassing yourself on the internet with cringe, so me letting you know how cringe it is would technically be an anti-contribution. But it's good for you. Like eating your vegetables.
>>8514524Hey me too. I have one that I gutted and put an 8bitdo bluetooth kit inside and I've almost completed Hades with it.
>>8517017Sounds like under achiever cope and projection to attempt to bring others down.
>>8517419Ewww where are the wires?
>>8514494You miss counted the combinations. And who said that it wouldn't register up and left together? [for instance]
>>8499431>two sticks on the bottomNo.
>>85175364 c4 d8 nne= 16 +11 diagonal combos without cardinals+ 44 with 1 extra cardinal.If we count left+up, right+up, right+down, left+down = 44 more combinations.that's 115. Just for the wacky D-pad.
>>8504550Got a Pro 2, it's fantastic. But the Pro+ I bought earlier quickly developed a sticky B button. The problem with 8bitdo controllers is there are sometimes bad batches (because China I guess) so it's a gamble whether you get a good one or not. At least they're fairly cheap.
>>8517584No wait, if you pressed a cardinal in combination with a single diagonal that wasn't adjacent to it, then add two more for each combo. 16+11+52[4x13]+ 60[4x15] .= 139, But at that point you might as well prevent the cardinals being pressed in combination as the diagonals are filling that position. It would get silly trying to be that accurate with a up to six button hotkey.
>>8517403Sounds like under achiever cope and projection to attempt to bring yourself up.See what I did there kiddo.
>>8499713Go buy one, they still make them. It's called an F310 and they're like $25 or less
>>8499425Hey I've actually got the one on the top right. I guess I'll stick with that one.
Xbone Series X
>>8506772came here to say this
>>8520531You sound like a zoomer faggot see what I did there? Now go back cunt.Verification not required.
>>8521296>n-n-n o uAutism. Not even once.
>>8521683>troll for replies because a sad individual>contribute fuck all>Whiny zoomer projection>Don't even make constructive criticism>Clearly not a regular here>easily got BTFOYou will never be a woman, Dial 8 and hang up, bitch.
>>8513653It’s the fucking lightning bolt that does it for me, kek.Also, sure, neat idea, but why the three gem buttons under the left analogue stick? And what are the 7 hearts?And, is it really necessary to have start/select equivalent buttons on BOTH the left and right sides?Also, why is there yet another array of three option buttons under the hearts?It just feels like your plan was to cram as many buttons as humanly possible, and I can’t, for the life of me, work out why anyone not trolling would feel the need to slap NINETEEN face buttons, not even counting the four sliver shoulder buttons or four rear buttons, let alone still add L3 and R3 tactile buttons, a grand total of 29 buttons, while still find it necessary to include “meta buttons” from pressing two diagonals at once.For that matter, how do the multi-diagonal buttons even work? What function do they serve?
>>8521856Ok.The lightning bolt isn't actually on the design. It's just to signify the battery placement.Don't take it so literally.The gem buttons? only 'C' and 'Z' have texture. And that's because demand for tactile concave 'Snes style' buttons were suggested to differentiate from the main 4 diamond formation. The flush buttons underside of the analogue sticks were a callback to the smaller original Xbox start and select buttons. It's an underused location, out of the way. Underrated and under used in my opinion. Using more assignable buttons actually can be very helpful for emulation and any gamer's choice preferential hot key. I have tried formations like these and the extra buttons are not a hindrance in the slightest.The 7 hearts are just a design option, they're mimicking classic game health bars. They would likely be used as home and general meta menu buttons. Those Start/Select buttons actually were more used as L3/R3 alternatives on other handhelds. Because they didn't have the option on their analogues. This one does, however the buttons would still be of use. And they are out of the way. So no harm.Many people use more buttons these days. If we were playing Sonic, then perhaps this is overkill. But it would do no harm if I was using this controller to play Sonic or Mario. Yes it is a modern device, but that should not make you think that it would be too overwhelming to play retro on it.If you want minimalist designs then it's not for you. Buy an alternative device. This is for people who don't mind having options.People who push boundaries experiment. Yes, it's a thing. Meta directionals seem overkill. And I joked about it too. I don't think they would be used very often, if at all. However, the potential for someone coming up with a use for such a hot key is not something I would want to deny others. However weird it may sound. If they can find a use for pressing multiple d pad commands at once, [same as 4pad diagonals] then go ahead.
>>8523804When up and right are pressed, it will still register a diagonal press. So long as the game recognizes diagonal direction. So the number of button presses I recommend would be 115. That means no two cardinal directions can be pressed to get a 'new' command. But in combination with the other diagonal buttons it can. If someone is weird enough or likes their games that little more challenging. Then it's there, kek.
>>8523847Needs work man.
>>8523847lmao>>8523852Understatement of the year
>>8513653why does it need to be both a handheld and a controller
>>8524218It's an under used utility. If you are paying good money for this device. It would be useful to use it beyond just handheld gaming. All that plastic and membranes and the pcb of a controller for it not to be able to be used as a controller?! What a wasted opportunity.To answer your question, no it doesn't NEED to be. But it should be capable of it.
>>8524180It could work, it's just complicated if one wanted to use for anything requiring fast inputs. As a lot of keyboard based games have plenty of hotkeys, I can see it potentially being useful. I can imagine if someone wanted to emulate Amiga, for instance. Or maybe one of those pilot simulation games they might use it. Hook it up to their, or their friends TV and have the options they didn't before.
>>8524365I guess I'm still not seeing the draw for this thing. I think it is a fair assumption to make that anyone interested in buying this thing would already own a controller or two for some other piece of electronics, and frankly it doesn't really look like a good enough controller to be worth using with anything other than the portable emulation thing it's bundled with
>>8524391Well it's a little more ergonomic than the standard handheld. But most people aren't autistic enough to worry about that. If they wanted more, they get more. Not all of these handhelds always connect up with your controller of choice. And even if they do, the firmware isn't always the best. Comparability/lag issues plague these devices usually. More than even the cursed Android ware.
>>8524391No, I must be missunderstood. The controller is a bonus. There are no other devices that do this. Except maybe the Gba and Gamecube. But even that wasn't ideal. If an extra controller was wanted but not present. It's an option. I'm not saying it would be the first choice. But why not have it?
>>8524373Nothing that assclown comes us with will ever work. I'm still not convinced he's actually a retarded 3rd world zoom zoom and not a troll.
>>85245863rd person is it? I'm 33 and have ear hair older than you. I don't need you justify myself to any newfag boys like you. I'm from the UK and easily Whiter than your frail baby hands will ever be. And just so we're clear, You have done nothing to further the handheld design and innovation that would benefit anyone here.So here we are. If I were you I'd back up what you are saying with evidence that you have an I.Q. in more than double figures, mong.You can't even talk to women. lol!
>>8524653this thread sure went places
>>8524659Yeah, I'm out. Not wasting my time with cunts, I'm too old for this shit. No more replies. This conversation is over.
>>8524689farewell, unsung British genius anon
>>8524653Dudelet. You're a 3rd world bitch baby, projecting and trying way too hard. You actually had to look up "Whiter" to use it as something to brag about. What a fucking loser.
>>8499425>That Logitech model is so old and still sold today. If it ain't broke, don't fix it.I hope that answers your question.