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>Are there any functional advantages to using the official USB daughterboard or will I be fine just plugging a splitter or powered hub into the DE10 Nano's USB OTG port?
>How much worse will the cores that don't require an SDRAM module run if you don't have one installed?
>Will the Sega Saturn core be able to surpass software emulators in terms of accuracy/compatibility or will it just be an passable recreation but with the benefit of less latency? Aside from the garbled audio it looks fairly promising so far, at least when it comes to Bug and Earthworm Jim 2. Not holding my breath until I see some footage of heavier 3D games like Daytona, Virtual On or Powerslave though, I hear that the DE10-Nano might not be on that level.
>Is the old MIST 1.4 still a worthwhile option if you just looking to play 8 and 16-bit systems but want something cheaper and more intergrated than the MiSTer?
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Using a turn key solution like raspberry pi just works better desu
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Don't fall for the scam OP.
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>>8126098
Cringe thread?
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>>8126151
cringe board.
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>>8126098

1. Nah, the only advantage is to stack the boards and make the whole thing more compact, less tentacular.

2.Indeed some cores can run with the in board DDR3 ram, but it's just not worth cause the number of cores using is really limited, so you better buy a SDRAM

3. It's easier to make more accurate emulation with FPGA, just think like the technology itself make the job easier to optimize, of course you still need the skill but one should also acknowledge with this technology makes things different.
So yeah Saturn core in the end will be more accurate.
How much time is gonna take ? I don't know but way less than it took for software emulation on PC to be at the current point.

4. No Idea for that one
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Just a quick reminder that your 4ghz gayming pc still can't run logic simulations in real-time and never will.

>"Presently, GateBoy runs at roughly 6-8 frames per second on a modern 4GHz CPU. As it turns out, emulating all those gates and the various clock phases at play in the DMG-01 takes plenty of processing power. However, compilation optimizations do a lot of heavy lifting, so in some regards, GateBoy runs impressively quickly for what it is."

https://hackaday.com/2021/09/07/gateboy-is-a-game-boy-emulated-at-gate-level/

Time to cope

>>8126098
>Are there any functional advantages to using the official USB daughterboard or will I be fine just plugging a splitter or powered hub into the DE10 Nano's USB OTG port?
No, you can use any USB 2 capable hub. (If you want to use HDD's make sure to use an external powered hub)
>How much worse will the cores that don't require an SDRAM module run if you don't have one installed?
Not that much ... either they work without the SDRAM or they don't.
>Will the Sega Saturn core be able to surpass software emulators in terms of accuracy/compatibility or will it just be an passable recreation but with the benefit of less latency? Aside from the garbled audio it looks fairly promising so far, at least when it comes to Bug and Earthworm Jim 2. Not holding my breath until I see some footage of heavier 3D games like Daytona, Virtual On or Powerslave though, I hear that the DE10-Nano might not be on that level.
Most cores on the MiSTer are more like hardware emulators. So the accuracy/compatibility can vary from core to core. One thing that can be guaranteed is the deterministic behavior of the cores so no matter what the video/sound/inputs/... will always behave the same way without jitter or other stuttering (unless the emulated system does it in that place due to hardware limitations)
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>>8126653
Show me an example of a pc unable to emulate these shitty consoles... you can't, you just quote some retarded lie
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>>8126869
Based ESL retard
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>>8126098
>Are there any functional advantages to using the built-in garbage or do I need to fork over more money?
>How much worse will it run if you don't fork over more money?
>Will it finally do anything regular emulation can't do but for free or will it continue being snake oil for retards?
>I still want to fork over money like a retard but want more expensive plastic and less reliable than emulation
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>>8126653
I can finally run SNES games accurately like any phone can do all for the paltry sum of $300, woah...
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after watching a video on how to setup the top 300 dos pack from internet archive for ao486, im getting this for sure with a 500gb microsd. I think it should be enough up until saturn and ps1 comes. shit is perfect. dont have to fuck with anything, the vhd file is already made and its literally as easy as loading a core and playing.
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>>8126956
It's not entirely true it's perfect though. I think people sell it too much as this flawless device when it's still got a few years to go.
I've already had like 3 instances where games have been fucked up and conveniently fixes were on the way but not in the release builds so I had to compile myself or manually grab.
That top 300 DOS pack also has like ~20 games with issues
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>>8126869
>>8126903
Saying that a logic simulation is equivalent to emulation is like saying a tranny is equivalent to woman.

I'll guess your pc can't handle a real woman, or only with 6-8 frames. The only thing that it can handle is a cut down and abstract version of a woman. But I don't think you will ever know the difference, maybe it to academic for zoomers and room temp IQ people :^)

Have fun with your ARM SoC's and bloated X86 platforms.
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>>8127014
I knew it, no proof in years and hundreds of useless threads
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>>8127079
>I knew it
Yeah, I knew it to that you're either under aged or you have no idea about what you are talking about.
Don't know if it's due to stupidity or greenness.

But hey, what do I expect ... a brainlet to open a link or even more ... something like a book?!

Here is the proof you faggot -> https://github.com/aappleby/MetroBoy

If it's too complicated for you, then you should stick to your tranny romance and be happy.
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>>8126653
>GateBoy
Why the fuck would you use this...
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>>8127105
"GateBoy runs at around 6 to 8 frames per second in "fast mode" on a modern 4-ish ghz processor. That's quite horrible compared to an emulator, but pretty impressive for something that's simulating a few billion gates per second on a single core."

Here if it's too much text for you to process
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Left To Right: Real Genesis, Pi 3B+ with "1" run-ahead, Pi without run-ahead, MiSTer

this is enough pproof for me
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>>8127014
>is like saying a tranny is equivalent to woman
It's not. It's more like jerking off vs. fucking. You can jerk off to any girl (or guy, if you're into that) for free (emulation) or you can fuck the ones you spend money on (the carts you own).
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>>8127113
Imagine the jitter on the Pi...
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>>8126624
>>8126653
Thanks for the replies, very helpful.
FPGA gaming sounds cool and all, but whether or not it lives up to all the promises of high accuracy and low latency obviously depends on how well-made the cores are and whether or not the hardware they run on can cut the mustard. I don't care that much about accuracy so long as the games run but I see it's importance for preservationists and homebrew developers.
There might also be situations/setups where the differences aren't as important; PC emulators feel pretty damn responsive when I'm using the VGA CRT and there are definitely games where reaction speed isn't super important.
I'm pretty sold on the concept, but I'm not surprised that there are people who write FPGA consoles as placebo shit.
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>>8127113
Where is the video? also runahead doesn't reduce the input lag, it works like rollback in fighting games, so this is flawed.
And use a fucking pc
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>>8127126
To be fair ... I can only recommend you getting into MiSTer if it's worth for you.
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>>8127130

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hAJJ6h991r8
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>>8127120
If emulating is masturbation, and playing the games on original hardware with dedicated (usually original, but repros might count too) cartridges and discs having actual sex, then where do flashcarts and ODEs fall on?
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>>8127154
>I can only recommend getting into the MiSTer if it's worth it for you
Maybe.
Quick response time is obviously good to have in fast-paced action games and such, though I'll definitely use the PC emulator + CRT setup some more to actually determine how much I need one.
Retroarch has some neat features and I haven't run into any runahead-related bugs yet, but I personally prefer standalones as they generally have better UIs and never do the Retropad nonsense.
>>8127130
What kinda problems have you been having with runahead?
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Input lag is a myth. You just suck. You’re also a faggot.
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I really can't afford a mister and can't justify it when I could buy original hardware and flashcarts for cheaper and get the most accuracy possible
I understand it's a work in progress but I dunno if it's a train I want on. A maxed out mister + retro style USB controllers is obscene for what you get at this current time
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>>8127998
Based
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>>8127618
>What kinda problems have you been having with runahead?
I mean that input latency test, it shows that runahead reduce input latency, when that is not true by definition
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This board reeks of poor South Americans
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>>8128195
Defending your overpriced meme emulator?
The memulator.
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>>8128202
Go climb back into your tree Juan
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This diagram and image is from Neo Geo core developer Furrtek and it explains a lot about MiSTer. Of course, even with that, the MiSTer is superior to software emulators (because there are a lot of software emulators which don't care about accuracy, also to a latency the MiSTer is also an absolute winner). I think in the software emulation world only Near built a perfect and an accurate emulator for the SNES, which was also reference for the MiSTer SNES core. An Accurate emulator requires a lot of power and that's why to run bsnes on the Rasperry Pi is near impossible (https://arstechnica.com/gaming/2011/08/accuracy-takes-power-one-mans-3ghz-quest-to-build-a-perfect-snes-emulator/)
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>>8128212
So I was right. Buyer's remorse kicking in?!
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its comfy. when will wrestlmania arcade come out? i get a warm and fuzzy feeling whenever i use it.
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stockholm syndrome
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>>8127156
>no GSYNC
lol
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For me if you like retro games you would want accuracy above all else so saying how it does not matter or shouldn't is cope. The only other better option is having the actual hardware, literally nothing else is similar and its great to see how this hardware is no better or worse than the real thing as it should be. just sayin. i will get one soon.
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i dont understand the hate this thing gets, if you dont like it you dont have to buy it you dont have to follow it so why care. shit is chump change as far as electronics goes.
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>>8128439

www.kleenex.com you fucking baby.
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>>8127182
it's substantially equivalent you fucking mong
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>>8128432
>i dont understand the hate this thing gets, if you dont like it you dont have to buy it you dont have to follow it so why care. shit is chump change as far as electronics goes.
Seems rational, but:
>stop liking what I don't like
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>>8126653
>>8126098
>instead of enjoying a story intricately woven with words as it is, I'll focus on enjoying the smell and sensation of dead wood in my hands instead
you are a just bunch of pretentious hipsters that never cared about the games themselves
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What does this do better than a Raspberry Pi?
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>>8129050
It gets you gamer credzz
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>>8129050
It's the closest thing to using real hardware without having real hardware. But the problem is it's only compatible with earlier consoles which have already had highly-accurate software emulators for 20 years.
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>>8128984
>Y-y-y-you are a just bunch of pretentious hipsters!
>You never cared about the games themselves!

Okay Mr. Gatekeeper thanks for your assessment.
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>>8129248
>telling people hung up on hardware that isn't even original, but a poor approximation to just enjoy the games is "gatekeeping"
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What if I spread the rumor that Field-Programmable Gate Arrays died after an average of 5 years, which is increase every time you re-program them because of electron entropy? You think people would buy that?
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>>8129261
Nice try but people already know about Gategrease™
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>>8129256
What's wrong about spending some extra money for a better experience for games like Street Fighter Alpha 2 instead of chasing the "perfect" settings in an emulator where frame skip, lag and jitter is minimized for the given hardware?
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>>8129261
Yeah these mister devices are ready for the grave in a few years
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>>8129063
This was the part that kills it for me. The only thing I was interested in was the GBA core since original hardware is a pain in the ass to get good video output and it's not even 100% cycle accurate right now? I'll just boot the emulator for approximations.

I'll wait until it works in 2025, I'm not throwing money down on some early access beta meme.

And the thing is if you have money for this shit, you have more than enough money to buy a real console. I'm enjoying my PS1 this weekend. The console is $30 and you can burn discs for dirt cheap. But if you can wait x months I guess you can enjoy the PS1 core whenever the fuck it's ready.
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Just another quick reminder that shit posters in MiSTer threads are borderline zoomers.
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>>8126098
>Are there any functional advantages to using the official USB daughterboard or will I be fine just plugging a splitter or powered hub into the DE10 Nano's USB OTG port?

It will work fine, but you run the risk of damage to the ports on the DE10.

>How much worse will the cores that don't require an SDRAM module run if you don't have one installed?

Most cores run on the 32mb ram, a few Neo Geo games need the 128mb and 5th gen will need that much if not more.

>Will the Sega Saturn core be able to surpass software emulators in terms of accuracy/compatibility or will it just be an passable recreation but with the benefit of less latency? Aside from the garbled audio it looks fairly promising so far, at least when it comes to Bug and Earthworm Jim 2. Not holding my breath until I see some footage of heavier 3D games like Daytona, Virtual On or Powerslave though, I hear that the DE10-Nano might not be on that level.

Yes, but it depends on the skill of whoever develops the core.

>Is the old MIST 1.4 still a worthwhile option if you just looking to play 8 and 16-bit systems but want something cheaper and more intergrated than the MiSTer?

Yes, but the DE10 is worth it just to make coomlectors and emufags seethe.
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>>8129741
>5th gen will need that much if not more.
I was under the impression that Neo Geo needed that much because the game roms themselves were loaded into the RAM, which is important for loading because obviously those were solid state carts. While something like the PS1 streams everything from the CD drive at a much slower speed, so there's a lot more leeway.
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Was going to get this but saw that raspberry pi was cheaper. You guys getting scammed lol.
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>>8129505

I doubt they will subsidize or have the hardware in stock forever. I have a strange feeling once Saturn and PS1 core finally comes out, which the PS1 is moving pretty fast compared to other cores, this shit is going to blow up and it's going to become much more difficult to get your hands on it, much less the 3rd party stuff they have for the mister, but more so the de10 board itself, it just continues to increase in price and I do see it becoming scarce just like other sought after electronics. So right now would be the best time to buy it.

>And the thing is if you have money for this shit, you have more than enough money to buy a real console.

This is not true for me, I don't have the money to buy the real thing. I did not have enough money to buy the misterfpga either outright, spent money here and there to buy up the parts. The de-10 nano board was the hard part, and also the memory was pricey, and just all around everything other, but its still a lot cheaper than buying a sega cd or a turbografx 16. I'm just waiting for the midway arcades and ps1 for now.
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This is the true price of the mister fpga, at least what it cost me with shipping and taxes and trying not to use total junk.

DE10-Nano Kit $211.34, includes the shipping direct from the maker.
MiSTer Case Acrylic - Shadow Clear $35.96
DC Jumper $7.50
Bluetooth Adapter × 1 $7.50
MiSTer FPGA 7 Port USB HUB V2.1 Black w/ Bridge Board and Power Splitter Cable - BLACK PCB $49.97
SDRAM XSD v2.5 128MB for MiSTer FPGA DE10-NANO - BLACK PCB $54.00
SAMSUNG ELECTRONICS EVO Select 256GB - $35.00
Mister FPGA Micro USB Bridge Black PCB - $10.94
StarTech.com Wireless USB WiFi Adapter Dual Band AC600 Wireless Dongle $22.07
Seeed Studio Switching Power Supply for Jetson Nano 5VDC 4A DC Jack $16.99
8Bitdo M30 2.4G Wireless $25
Copper Heatsink $10
Loctite - $5
Anodized colored buttons - $15
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>>8127008
It’s not “perfect enough” and retarded fanboys like you who refuse to criticize the laziness of the misterdevs will keep it from ever being as accurate as true enthusiasts want it to be. Some of the popular cores are literally just reworks of MAME.
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If no one told any of you that emulators weren't accurate, you'd never notice it yourselves.
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What I like about the mister is the ezness of loading vhd operating systems but at the same time using exact hardware, that's fucking cool as hell, forget about the video games, its the mememories of old software, like undersea adventure on windows 3.1 or even older operating systems. im filling up the 256gb right now of top 300, upgraded from 128gb, its fully loaded right now. feels good. okay ill catch you poorfags later. its really not that expensive to experience GREATNESS.
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>>8130475
emus: play all the games and you won't notice the difference
real console (with flashcart because you're not a paypig): 100% accuracy
MiSTER: supposedly more accurate than emulators but a lot of "cores" are unfinished so you'll run into glitches that you'd never see on emulators. Costs over $100 and obviously is bad for playing games at the moment, might be of interest to hobbyists who decap old chips and want to program it themselves.
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>>8130475
The inescapable truth
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>>8130475
Wait what !? ZSNES was a lie all along?!
And the ear-piercing unfiltered sound of all the Yamaha YM2612 emulations don't match the original console?

Yeah, someone who don't grew up with those games would never notice the unfiltered steel drums in street fighter 2 or the variable input lag of emulation in time critical games.

Even worse the PS4 Street Fighter 30th Anniversary collection have the same sound issues.
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>>8130371
>no gate grease
NGMI
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>>8130536
>Even worse the PS4 Street Fighter 30th Anniversary collection have the same sound issues.
That's why you don't buy rereleases, they're just roms on a shitty emulator that will never be updated.
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>>8130536
Wow it's almost like comparing anything early in its development reveals problems.
Zsnes isn't a comparable example to give when everyone these days is either using some version of snes9x or beetle.
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>>8130540
>no gate grease
But anodized colored buttons for $15 in an acrylic case ...
baka
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>>8130049
B-but muh input lag! Muh accuracy!
lmao
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>>8130508
The only issues I've heard for a MiSTer core were for Neo Geo and CPS1, and that was because the devs themselves mentioned them
The cores are at least on the same level of "don't notice the difference" that you're putting emulation on, based on personal experience with the one I've hooked up to a PVMeme
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>>8130508
>>8130475
>>8130536
>>8130543
>>8130558
(MiSTer is an emulator too)
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>>8130543
>Wow it's almost like comparing anything early in its development reveals problems.

Isn't this happening rn to the MiSTer even if they make great progress in much shorter time while archiving already in nearly most cases cycle accuracy with rather minor bugs?
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RPi fags, cope because your shitty linux board will never be accurate and will always have a fuck ton of input lag.
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>>8130558
>>8130049

Imagine not knowing what the difference is between an Arm SoC and an FPGA.

But hey there is no /vrg/ so what did I expect.
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>>8130571
You're right. It will catch up eventually.
>>8130574
Sorry, what's input lag? Is that something someone told you about or something you personally noticed? Just trying to see if this is a valid criticism or you just bring pretentious.
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seriously if you have to emulate why even use a raspberry pi to do it, fucking trash, the moment i see anyone using one when there are countless better options it i lose total respect for them, especially when its a new company trying to demo their tech and they use that crap. its not dependable, you can spend the same amount of money on a jetson nano or something and getter better experience. fuck raspberry pi, the most cucked hardware that exists.
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>>8130595
So beyond having a bitch fit, do you have any actual examples of why rpi are so terrible?
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>>8130583

It's a real thing, I don't know the exact numbers but I do feel it with games I really know. It's not just about the latency though, its the fact that I don't have to play with it or adjust it to get it right. I should not be able to know the difference and with emulation its a mixed bag, depends on the game really and its that simple fact alone where i just dont want to touch it, its hard for me to even play retro games, i want the experience to be as easy as possible. I dont get how raspberry pi is even still a thing, shit is trash though and through.
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What a fucking scam LMFAO
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>>8130601
Try running bsnes on your pi an you will see :^)
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>>8130582
>Imagine not knowing what the difference is between an Arm SoC and an FPGA.
it still doesn't change anything.
>>8130595
I mean if you can't flash a micro SD card, that sounds like a personal problem.
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>>8130609
Why would I run bsnes when 9x runs fine?
It's simply unnecessary. The differences between real hardware and a modern pi4 are negligible to human senses. You can't even detect the differences.
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>>8130601

I had one that I tossed against the wall. Ive actually used it for octoprint and then as a mirror using moonlight to broadcast my downstairs computer to the one in my bedroom using nvidia geforce program and that shit could not be trusted for anything, it was constantly crashing. Its not for in depth gaming I can tell you that much. I should not have to fuck with it after continuous use. With the mister its instant and less in the way for things to fuck up, people say its the opposite but its not, mister has a smaller install, just drag and drop after you get ftp enabled and samba file renamed, and then just dump files and load core/game after update_all.
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>>8130614
>it still doesn't change anything.
Ask a bitcoin miners how much of a difference it makes when things can be processed in parallel.

But hey if you want to invest some time and tweak bsnes on your 500W gayming pc to get a somehow comparable experience to just push some sprites around then go for it and even then it's not that "muh 100% accuracy". Retro arch's wiki is full of edge cases where the PC architecture hits its limits.
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>>8130620

Like I said it depends on the game some are really noticeable, but its bits and pieces and at teh end of the day it all adds up where you have a bag filled with improvements, especially with sound, people talk about latency but sound also was one of the biggest shockers. I think the video above touches on it and its true. But better is objective, its really more authentic or genuine. its not more and its not less.
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>>8130620
bsnes is the on emulator that I have some respect for because It's trying to be spot on, even in weird edge cases. But the drawback is that you need a rather beefy PC to keep up with the emulators demand.
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I would like one but I spent money rather recently on building a new pc.
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>>8130549
>>8130540

It replaces the shitty 3d printed ones. Dont worry though I will resell to some normie for 5x its price should it ever get that high, just look at what happened to the jetson xavier, its in the 1500 range now, when ps1 saturn core come out thats it, they will not be able to keep up with demand. there's no point saving money right now its getting only less. you have literally nothing to lose owning one.
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>>8131047
I own one, but I wouldn't pay 15$ just for cosmetics :^)
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>>8131071

it'll look so much better though and uniform, i picked hard black anodize to match the cuts on the acrylic. next is that hdmi cable itself where its angled. i might upgrade the fan, but not with noctua, fuck their colors lol. i love burning money
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>>8131089
I liked what one of the anon did. He used a mini itx case for a cleaner setup, so the mister don't look like it's getting gangbanged by cables from all sides.
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How much space is needed for everything thats available right now?
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>>8131213
A TB or so? But how many CD games are you really going to play?
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>>8131283

It would just be nice to have them all in one location and be capable of running it. I definitely want the 300 dos games and I think thats 80GB alone, with mega cd im guessing 500GB should be enough. I wonder how many gbs it takes for all usa playstation 1 games.
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Speaking of the saturn core, update from srg 320

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rWU0bri9CW4&t=2s

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FFxgvZ_H1vU ( better mute for this one )


Nice progress right ? Can't believe he has come so far in less than 7 month ( though he was already working on it before opening his patreon in february, still the progress is incredible )
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>>8130070
>This is not true for me, I don't have the money to buy the real thing. I did not have enough money to buy the misterfpga either outright

>doesnt have money for the shit
>saying it's not true for you

I said if you can afford one you can afford the other and you think that statement is somehow not true because you can't afford either. Fucking lmao, guess they stopped teaching reading comprehension in American public schools
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>>8131659

That's because you are assuming. I actually do own a Mister FPGA, but I don't own the numerous consoles that I use to play them because they would cost a small fortune and I don't have that kind of money to spend on peripherals for them, the games, fuck that. Lets get real here, you can play these games on your phone.
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>>8131604
Jesus those Rayman sounds startled the fuck out of me. Good shit tho
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>>8130559
There’s issues from serious nephew enthusiasts that were posted in 2019 on the GitHub that have yet to be touched… why go through the time to show issues of the deva will just ignore you and ask for praise?
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>>8132075
NeoGeo not nephew
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>>8130559
>>8132075
Funnily enough NeoGeo is finally getting work done on it recently by furrtek after a long hiatus, and more CPS1/2 chips are being fully decapped, one of them just today (https://twitter.com/WydD/status/1437100201173475332?s=20)
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>>8131604
That's insane. We might have Saturn and Playstation by the end of the year at this rate.
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>>8132075
Are you a big enough nephew enthusiast?
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>b-but mister can't do 5th gen
>has been now proven that 5th gen is doable on the de-10, just takes considerable time and effort
>b-but 5th gen sucks anyway! 3d hasn't aged well! It can't do 6th gen as well!
Just loaded up demons of assborg in the genesis core and I'm enjoying on my pvm. Stay mad, fags.
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>>8132269
You're arguing with poor people and 3rd worlders that barely know English, it's not worth it man, have fun
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>>8129505
>And the thing is if you have money for this shit, you have more than enough money to buy a real console.
Neo Geo + Flash Cart = $1000+
PC Engine + Flash Cart = $600~
NES, SNES, Master System, Mega Drive, GB/C/A, GG, ... - Console - $50-$150, Flash Cart - $100-$200. Home computers like a ZX Spectrum costs too, Arcades costs hundreds-thousands...
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>>8132491
>Mister sister fister
>$300
>most of the cores do not work

Not helping your case here, you're selling something that's cheaper albeit still $300 but has limited functionality
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>>8130475
Emulators will always have input lag, any lag in old 2D games suck ass.
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>>8132249
Easy there anon.
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Looks like epilogue is planning for their usb-c cartridge readers to work as mass storage devices in a future firmware updates, in which case they should be easily compatible with mister or Raspberry Pi's when that happens. This kills the Analogue merchant.
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>b-but mister can't do 5th gen
>has been now proven that 5th gen is doable on the de-10, just takes considerable time and effort
>b-but 5th gen sucks anyway! 3d hasn't aged well! It can't do 6th gen as well!
Just loaded up demons of assborg in the genesis core and I'm enjoying on my pvm. Stay mad, fags.
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>>8130371
well, i paid (in AUD):
- DE10 nano from Mouser - $170 (old pricing, i admit)
- micro-USB hub from aliexpress $7
- salvaged HDMI-to-VGA adapter for best 15kHz output $0
-64GB microSD $20

I did redesign and print myself a case though, but i would classify a 3D printer as a tool and i note you didn't list screwdrivers or a anything.
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>>8131680
Nah you had to save up and scrape money for this shit instead of outright buying it. I 100% was not talking about you when I mentioned people who could afford it. Stop shoehorning yourself in.
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>>8134823
That's be really cool.
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>>8134153
with VRR and runahead it's really not that big of a difference any more
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>>8134823
Nice! With the GB Operator it would cover GB, GBC, and GBA with one one device. SNES, NES.. Genesis.. wonder what else would be worth making a cartridge adapter for.
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>>8135129

> I 100% was not talking about you when I mentioned people who could afford it.

You are getting mixed up with being able to afford something and just budgeting, just because people who budget doesn't mean they can't afford it outright, again you are assuming. You've made an idiot out of yourself numerous times now, fuck off.
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>>8135129

you are that same guy here bitching about people having enough money to buy this time and time again. get a life, people can spend their money however way they want to.
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>>8135616
rasberry pi is cheaper
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>>8134053
>has limited functionality

How would you know you don't have one. Tell me how it has limited functionality, you can't just say that shit and not list it specifically, tell me. You're literally looking for the problems and ignoring 90 percent of what people care about, playing the game without having to fuck with it. And the other anon is correct, what you said is not an argument, its stupid to buy consoles now even if you really have the money because mister is the next best thing, even if you do have money to blow on consoles. Man you guys are really grasping at straws. I will be here laughing when PS1 and Saturn core comes out and then they magically somehow come out with N64 core with some upgades.
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>b-but mister can't do 5th gen
>has been now proven that 5th gen is doable on the de-10, just takes considerable time and effort
>b-but 5th gen sucks anyway! 3d hasn't aged well! It can't do 6th gen as well!
Just loaded up demons of assborg in the genesis core and I'm enjoying on my pvm. Stay mad, fags.
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>>8135473
Doubt;
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5ZTS04rVOn0
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>>8136139
I like Riggel, but he says uses a hdmi to av converter on his PC to CRT
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>>8135024
What about the SDRAM?
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>>8126869
FPGAs are built with one use in mind - to faithfully mimic everything else. Normal computers aren't. Why the chips aren't on every new motherboard, I don't know.
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>>8134823
Fingers crossed. I hate Analogue retards with a passion.
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>>8126869
One major issue is audio-video sync. On a pc the sound and graphics hardware are separate devices, but emulation requires the sound and video to be in perfect sync, this is basically impossible to solve perfectly and results in either frame skipping, or some kind of audio rate scaling causing sound quality issues and excessive audio latency. Audio video sync is perfect on FPGA, and the sound has latency.

Most software emulators are horrifically inaccurate. And the accurate emulators require a very fast cpu. This is because to accurately emulate a system, you must advance each emulated component cycle by cycle, but modern cpus are terrible at doing this, an accurate emulator needs to jump between each emulated component tens of millions of times per second, completely destroying the branch prediction and blowing out the L1 cache. A high end PC can just about do this, but your raspberry pie is certainly not capable.
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>>8134823
>This kills the Analogue merchant
Where is the MiSTer portable?
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>>8139930
>Where is the MiSTer portable?
what do you think the analogue is?
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