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Post your crts /vr/os.
What are the best brands?
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Got a 21 inch sony wega that is in desperate need of proper servicing.
Geometry is all messed up.
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>>8098335
These giant mid 2000's Trinitron CRTs will survive for ages simply because of their absolute size making them a pain to recycle. And that's a good thing.
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27" Toshiba from 2003 for PS1 and 6th gen.
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>>8098457
I've been trying to get a trinitron, unfortunately my shitty country is locked down at the moment, so I haven't been able to find one.
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>>8098470
If this is the model I think it is you can disconnect this wire from the neckboard to get a sharper image, it disables Scan Velocity Modulation.
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>>8098526
>still locked down two years later
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>>8098628
I wouldn't be surprised.
Last year we were locked down for 6 months.
It's been about 3 months this year so far.
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bought this Sony Trinitron KV-M1420E and its perfect for having next to my PC in my room but it didn't come with a remote and im pretty sure i need it to actually do anything besides changing brightness and volume
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>>8098335
Best CRT for games like Ocarina of Time (64)?
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The brand means nothing, the tube, specs, and now wear, are better criteria.
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>>8098884
Sony remotes are 10 dollars on eBay. I just ordered one for my Wega last night. Just search your model number.
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for the PAL fags here, any >27 inch TV from any reputable brand like sony philips grundig panasonic etc. are really good. just make sure to get one that doesn't have a ton of wear and don't forget to adjust the focus as well
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>>8099154
thanks!
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It's this thing. I can't remember the exact model. Very nice TV, though (although the S-Video seems to struggle with really bright images?).
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>>8099396
well the ones for my model seem to be nearly 20 bucks.. would a cheapo "universal remote" from china do the trick?
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>>8099509
meant for >>8099154
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Picked up this beauty for 20 bucks the other day. 6th and 7th gen consoles look great on it.
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>>8099532
cheers lad
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Remote controls are for faggots, if you can't walk up to your TV and press a button you don't deserve to play games considering you probably live a sedentary lifestyle
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>>8099547
Usually you can't get into a service menu or change the aspect ratio without a remote control
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>>8099559
Yes you can.
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>>8099561
Prove it
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>>8099562
Just hit the menu button nigger

Good god he's really pretending his TV doesn't have a menu button
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>>8098335
I'm a little sad today. The last thrift shop in my city that would take and sell old CRTs closed today. I got 3 trinitrons from there for less than $20 a piece. Now there is nowhere to go except for Facebook where you either find free garbage or high dollar retro gaming televisions.
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>>8099568
Wrong
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>>8099547
>>8099568
my TV doesnt let me adjust anything other than brightness, contrast, and saturation from its 3 (three) buttons in the front. Not all CRT TVs have the integrated menu of a modern HD TV, not by far.
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>>8099509
You’re too cheap to spend 20 bucks for the right remote?
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what would cause an anon larp as a CRT user if he doesn't even understand how to access a service menu
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>>8100340
the whole CRT costed me 10€
its pure logic that i wouldn't spend TWICE that for the remote
would you spend twice the cost of your console in a controller? huh?
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>>8100395
I just push 2 buttons on the front.
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>>8099532

go into the service menu and adjust something called "tilt".
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>>8100402
If you got the TV as a steal it doesn't matter. It's probably worth way more than that.
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>>8100402
mental illness
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>>8100518
Thanks for the advice. I have to find a remote for it, the one I got with it doesn't work and I can't find any codes for it
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>>8099532
can't beat a good panny. I'm still waiting for another ct-34wx53 to appear in my listings.
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Hey bros, OP here.
Just bought my first CRT.
It's a Toshiba model 43n9uxa.
Looking great, been playing darius twin on my snes.
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>>8099532
I owned one of these for years. I still miss it.
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>>8101681
Here it is, any tips on calibrating the settings for the best picture?
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>>8101681
>>8102157
>rear projector
No thanks, if you like it though, more power to you
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>>8102409
What do you mean by rear projector?
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>>8102416
The method by which rear projection TVs operate?
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>>8102426
This is my first time using a crt since I was a kid.
I don't know what you're talking about.
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>>8102430
It is technically using CRT technology but it’s not the same as the CRTs we’re talking about
It will tend to look a bit washed out and be a bit laggy
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>>8102430
Don't let that guy fuck with you, rear projection TVs rule. I'm jealous.
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>>8102439
What CRTs are you talking about?
Do rear projection CRTs have input lag?

>>8102448
It's all good, thanks bro
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>>8102452
Rear projectors spit out a bunch of radiation and can give you cancer is used for long periods of time
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>>8103592
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>>8103592
I don’t think rear projection is ionised like normal CRTs dude
>>8102452
Yes they generally have pretty poor input lag, generally the same as most crt projectors which is not great
They also as far as I’m aware don’t really give the same look to games like normal CRT’s do
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>>8105589
Thanks for the info, coming from a digital tv the input lag is noticeably lower, so I'm pretty happy.
Games look great through component on it, which is mainly what I was after. I might try and get a small sony trinitron at a later date, I've seen a few on facebook marketplace but can't get them due to lockdowns.
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>>8105612
Oh?
you also an Aussie?
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>>8105618
Brother?
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>>8105629
I guess I'm lucky I'm in a non lockdown state
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>>8105632
VICfag here, you are very lucky indeed.
I hate this shithole.
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>>8098335
it looks different now but "the game room" definitely has my inner child impressed

i also have an apple2 av monitor and "pink princess" crt closeted should the need arise +a few 5-6" mini tvs for maximum comfy @ the campsite/solar power apocalypse setups
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>>8103643
i had a trinitron as a young kid
i wish i somehow kept it
ironic i appreciate more now than then
as a child i played vidya passively
wasn't emotionally invested until n64 era / FF7-8-9


the pvm almost looks too sharp but i still want one

>>8102157
good fucking luck bro
i bought one of these "boogie" tvs for $100 on craigslist - we used it until it died
comfy for wii but we didn't use it for much else

>>8099532
widescreen
neat
any shimmer on 240p systems?

>>8099410
godtier
i had a huge one of these
all my college buddies would come over almost daily to play smash / brawl when it first dropped

simple times, i miss it
RiP manuel
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What's the point of CRTs anymore when my basic 4k monitor looks about as good with CRT-royale?
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>>8106060
We can't help you anon
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>>8106060
I'm never buying any form of lcd again.
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>>8106060
big curvy glass tube

flat screens are soulless and the only curved screens they make now curve the wrong way
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>>8098335
Why do people hate Trinitrons? Haven't had any luck finding any other CRTs and they seem to just work.
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Only place where CRTs look good
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>>8106107
They don't, it's just that it's the one brand normalfags and idiots latched onto as the bestesterest ebar CRT so they won't shut up about them and ignore anything else that's as good as them.
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asked in another thread but might get better answers here.

Looking to RGB mod an n64 (PAL) and i have one of these cables already for the snes, will it work with the RGB mod?
all the stuff online talks about rgb scart cables, but my tv doesn't have scart input, and i'm unsure if a cable that needs the yellow sync will work with the rgb n64
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>>8106109
You need to be 18 or older to post here
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>>8099128
The bigger problem is actually to get a good signal out of the n64
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This thing has an HDMI port.
>8103643
kino
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>>8106847
I could be wrong, but that cable is for ypbpr so might not work with the RGB mod. The retrovision ones might work though. But I'd wait for someone who knows more about cables to confirm because those are some expensive cables if you don't need it.
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Here's my Trinitron manufactured in December 1988. The picture's geometry could use some improvement, but other than that I absolutely love this thing. Managed to pick up a VCR to match it.
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>>8106847
>>8107119
would something like this work? connecting the RGB scart from the N64 into this and then this into the BNC connectors for the pvm?
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>>8106847
>will it work with the RGB mod?
It can be made to work without doubt. Just wire the RGB mod according to the cable wiring.
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>>8107187
Looks pretty slim for a CRT, hope they weren't sacrificing picture quality as it doesn't seem like the conventional CRT size.
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>>8107259
>slim
No way. Maybe the pic doesn't show it but its big back there. Thing is heavy as fuck too compared to the other TV I had which was only an inch smaller in terms of screen size. I could carry that thing on my shoulder. This TV though? Can barely carry it for a minute without needing a break.
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>>8107023
>18
This is /vr/ you need to have been born in the 80s or early 90s to post here.
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>>8107095
>This thing has an HDMI port.
enjoy your lag
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>>8098335
Time to buy some BVMs for my yacht
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>>8099532
This an HDTV, I had this same one about 15 years ago
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>>8107667
e bought ze BVM?
dahmp eet.
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>>8108159
can i get a quick rundown
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>>8108163
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>>8108176
>only his controller ports are yellow
the fuck?
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>>8108179
the oxidation of snes plastic works in mysterious ways
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>>8108179
idk, maybe the guy that had it before me swapped the shell out? Left the ports the same? no clue
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>>8108176
clean your room
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>>8108192
Yeah, it's weird cause the rest of it looks really clean, just the ports are yellow.
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ok
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>>8108201
i was cleaning a bunch of carts, so my desk got cluttered a bit
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>>8108176
still looking for these 14 inch toshibas with svideo and component. how much did you pay for yours?
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>>8108203
Some of the later SNES revisions used plastic that didn't yellow that much so maybe that's one of the in between models that had a bit of both
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>>8108220
It's probably a Franken-SNES.
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>>8107523
>noooooo not one millisecond of lag litchurally unplayable!
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>>8108247
the real issue is that it line doubles 240p to 480p, looks the same as an lcd (shit)
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>>8108214
My brother found it at a garage sale or some shit for nothing
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>>8108235
>>8108220
Na mine's like that though, but not as bad. only the controller ports are startting to yellow. It's kind of weird.
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>>8108176
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Panasonic TC-14S50K. Picture looks good for anime even over composite. How should I RGB mod this without the scaling going funny? My converter squishes the 16:9 image to fit the 4:3 screen.
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>>8098335
I have this very same model OP
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>>8108472
>eromanga sensei
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>>8108517
Is that 480p or interlaced?
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>>8108573
you can tell it's interlaced because taking a still picture will give it scanlines that make it look 240p
as scanlines will alternate the blank lines at an interlaced resolution
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>>8108517
That's a consumer set? It's beautiful, I think I might need a new Trinitron.
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>>8098335
Pics a few months old now and I’ve changed a few things and cleaned up a bit, but here’s mine
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>>8108618
That's a rip off of the philips

Had a 37" one like this but it was magnavox
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>>8108680
>Grundig
>Rip off phillips
uuuh ok?
doesn't even use a philips tube in there mate
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>>8108689
He's just jealous mate, comfy looking setup!
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>>8108702
cheers man
I got it for 5 bucks and it had dual RGB SCART inputs so I snapped that up
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>only 1 other anonymous has a crt monitor ITT
i expected more from you losers
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>>8109842
Not really interested in VGA or retro PCs, wanted a CRT for the 240p/480i capability
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>>8108573
480i , it's from Nintendo Wii via component cables, this tv can't display 480p
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>>8106060
Royale and "pro" CRTs look like shit.
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>>8109842
My three 21 inch IBM CAD monitors are too heavy to constantly haul around. They stay in storage for now. It was fun seeing them hooked up to one of my 20 yo workstations again.
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>>8098335
I've had this Quasar CRT for about a year now, it's pretty based
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>>8109842
Not my fault CRT monitors are harder to find because they were easier to throw out than TVs
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>>8109842
My daily driver, recently calibrated with a colorimeter
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>>8111279
im still mad at myself for missing out on a FREE fw900 a couple weeks ago. how many hours do you have on that?
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>>8111286
I'm not sure, moderate usage. My g2 is set at 140 so it's old but not dying
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Best way to run a Dreamcast on a Sony pvm-1390?
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>>8111562
just plug it in
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>>8111565
Thanks :)
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KV-29LS35K
for Free. Yah or nay? It's not 100Hz?
>tfw 50KGs
gonna be pain in the ass to transport it
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>>8111806
That Zaku doesn't have a hel-
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>>8111806
If it's free why not?
Does it have all the inputs you need?
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>>8111806
>50KG
nigga are you weak?
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>>8111927
not that anon but carrying 50kg is not the same as lifting
CRT's are also awkward as fuck to hold
>>8111806
easiest thing to do is get one of these and some straps and towels
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Anyone on here a crt seller?

I've been collecting some good condition crt TVs for a while now, but I need to start selling a few

Any tips for selling them without being raped by shipping fees?
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>>8112093
offerup, ebay, mercari, craigslist, etc

why are you hoarding television sets
They will take quite some time to sell
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>>8112093
>Any tips for selling them without being raped by shipping fees?
yeah, if you don't wanna pay out the ass, do it locally or make them pay courier good luck with that though
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>>8112093
Unless you are collecting high end CRTs, I doubt you will have much luck as a seller.
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>>8112217
he can sell them per pound to an electronics recycling facility
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>>8098335
>turn on Wega
>distant REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE sound of coil whine
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>>8112243
F
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>>8112243
>coil whine
more likely a capacitor
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>>8112258
uhhhh...
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>>8112268
what?
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The Sony was $10, the ViewSonic monitor and the Zenith TV were free.
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>>8112530
How did you get them to stick to the roof like that?
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>>8110839
SOUL

Looks like my TV, brother
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>>8112532
super glue
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>>8112540
Thanks brother
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>>8110839
is that a Sony tube?
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>>8112627
According to Wikipedia it's technically a Panasonic https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quasar_(brand)
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>>8112637
ah, just they way those lines show up on camera
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>>8098457
I've got an early 00s one. It's built like a tank.
Around 2012 it developed dry solder joints around the power supply but reflowing that sorted it.
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>>8100402
Yes if the console was like 5 bucks you greedy fuck
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>>8111945
pic attached is CRT easy mode
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help
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>>8112767
Have you tried plugging it in?
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>>8112767
What are those, 20M2MD(E/A/U)s?
I think they need more compressed air.
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>>8112758
Unless you have elevations
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>>8112906
I hope you don't have elevations within one room or floor of your place. I mean you're not taking your thing up and down stairs regularly, are you?
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I've got a few extra pvms I don't use.
Problem is if I sold them for what they're worth I'd feel bad, but at the same time I don't want some flipper to get them. I really hate having to sell shit, I don't know what to do. Is craigslist a bad idea?
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>>8112272
Capacitors are not at all what makes crts whine
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>>8112627
You can tell it's not by the way the glass curves vertically
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>>8113121
Just try and vet the buyer as best you can for somebody who actually wants to use it
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>>8109842
I have one but it's a little shitty. Thing gets really blurry after being left on after a while, to the point where I need to lower the brightness and contrast in order to read small text. Don't know if I should try and fiddle with it or just look for another one.
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>>8103643
Hot damn that is sexy.

>>8109842
Honestly no point in one of these when I play Dreamcast through vga to my LCD monitor as is.
A CRT television has composite (and possibly other useful inputs) so I can have multiple systems plugged in at once.
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>>8112767
try turning it off and back on again
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>>8113214
>A CRT television has composite (and possibly other useful inputs) so I can have multiple systems plugged in at once
This nigga sees a magnavox tv on the side of the road with two composites and an s-video and says "hot damn, now I can plug THREE consoles in!"
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>>8113247
based
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>>8113247
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>>8098335
So what brands/models should I look out for when spotted?
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Using WiiMednafen i get black bars on top and bottom regardless of how much i adjust the screenspace. Is this because of playing NTSC games on a PAL TV ?
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>>8113506
Pretty much any monitor you can find is probably worth it but don't spend a lot of money on one without researching it. Most monitors out there are sony PVMs though.

For consumer sets just look out for the big brand names like JVC, Sanyo, Sony, Panasonic and so on. JVC especially D-series CRTs are some of the best big CRTs you can find. No name brands and tiny little VHS combo bedroom tvs are best assumed to be crap but might find something usable if you're willing to gamble. HD and Widescreen CRTs generally aren't good either but there are good ones out there.
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>>8106060
>4k
Enjoy the input lag and smear like Vaseline whenever there's movement
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>>8113840
Wouldn't integer scaling prevent that?
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>>8113935
no, your only hope is 120fps with black frame insertion to reduce motion blur, the lag can be mitigated the right setup (it will always be a bit higher than a crt but well within range of tolerance that you cant notice)
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>>8099532
Based yyh Chad
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>>8105737
Why do people still buy huge amp cabs where could you possibly play that above 2?
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>>8098368
I got a 27 inch classic Trinitron that has geometry problems. I have two 32 inch Trinitrons. One with an HDMI and one with a DVI input. And both of them work perfectly. I don't know why people rag on the newer Trinitrons. Both of mine are fantastic for both Composite and Component inputs.
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>>8114273
they can't display 240p, so generally useless for the majority of /vr/ games
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>>8107523
There's no Lag on my 4:3 Sony's with HDMI/DVI. I think it's the Widescreen models that have the problem. Not every television with a digital input. One of these days I'd like to actually measure my two television's displays.
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>>8108179
It's the plastics' composition. Not the UV exposure that makes the difference.
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>>8108214
I found one at a Salvation Army, but it wasn't a Toshiba. It was some Rando brand, but it works great. Need to get a remote for it. Also need to take a picture of it so I can remember what the hell it's called.
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>>8114305
do you understand where the lag comes from? of course it has lag, it can't not have lag
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>>8108618
Ah yes, GRUNDIG...
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>>8109842
I have a Dell 21'' Trinitron that decided to have a stroke on me one night. One side of the screen's geometry just dipped low one night. I half ass fixed it through settings, but it didn't look right, or feel right. So I haven't used it since. Not sure what to do.
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>>8112093
I sold a Memorex 13'' today for 30 bucks. It worked great. Had a slight blemish on the glass off to the left of the screen. I didn't need it and thought that price was good for everyone involved.
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>>8114285
I know the one with the DVI port displays 240p just fine. Haven't tested that with the HDMI set that's a year newer.
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>>8114330
>Added Lag
And it's easily perceivable with SHUMPS.
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>>8114372
not fine, it line doubles to 480p. Same as an lcd
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>>8114383
CRT's don't have a native resolution.
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>>8114404
no but they have scan ranges, and pretty much all consumer HDCRTs only have the circuitry to display 480p/960i. The TV digitally scales all inputs to this one resolution for the tv to display, that's where the lag comes from. Some professional displays and PC CRTs are 'multiscan' displays, meaning they can sync to a range of scan rates, but there are no consumer sets that do this outside of some fabled models
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>>8113189
If you hear a coil whine sound it most like is a capacitor dude, most CRTs aren’t gonna have vibrating inductors
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>>8114591
he was referring to the 15khz of the flyback transformer that all CRTs innately have
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>>8114621
Well that is definitely a different sound
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how can i get 240p on a PAL CRT anyway? considering i want to emulate NTSC 60 fps games from my Wii instead of 50fps PAL titles..
Im using the default composite to SCART video cable that came from the Wii in Europe
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>>8109842
i had a fucking amazing NEC FE990 monitor but a storm killed it. I do have an ADI G1000 or somethign wierd like that wich is pretty good too but it has shitloads of ghosting, prolly something broken inside.
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>>8114969
>look ma, I posted it again
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>>8113121
You can try to sell it here or on one of the CRT groups. If you're anywhere near philly I'd be interested. Just a simple retro gamer.
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>>8114969
based
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How much would you pay for a sony PVM 1444qm that needs some repairs? Everything lights up on the front but no screen after it suddenly went off a few days ago.

I'm looking to free up some space anyway, and figured I might as well sell it to someone who might know what they are doing, but not sure what a reasonable price would be.
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>>8114969
Spotted the burger.
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>>8098526
australia? check FB marketplace
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>>8098335
I have this model, got NGC/Xbox/PS2 going through Component and everything older besides NES going through S-Video.

Sony is the boss if you can find one cheap, but JVC is a decent alternative.. although the TruSurround on this sony is fucking goooooooooooooood
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>>8112767
success
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>>8115351
what was wrong with it? Was it just a tube swap?
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Are we in a bubble or is this just the way its going to go from now on?
I get so discouraged when I see posts from 2 years ago giving advice that some user is spending too much on a PVM or something. And now they're going for double those unreasonable amounts. But I still would like one one day. is waiting a fool's game? For the hope they ever come back down again? Seems unlikely since its a finite stock.
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>>8115409
Every hobby right now is currently rife with speculation. I don't think it'll last forever. Even if CRTs aren't being made anymore, there definitely isn't a shortage of them if you're looking hard enough. Even when it comes to pro monitors.
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>>8103643
looks BAD
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>>8115416
dang I hope so. I just came into some unexpected money so I don't have to look on longingly anymore, but now I'm worried about buyers remorse. It's a lot of money for one of the good ones.
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>>8115409
They will never be made again. So unless people start losing interest, the price is only going to go up.
This is also still a very cheap hobby, the cheapest I can think of actually.
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>>8108618
>Zelda II
Based taste.

Captcha: 0SNGR
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>>8115435
You can either spend an insane amount of money on a "Retro Gamer CRT (RARE)" that'll probably get destroyed in shipping anyway. Or, you could be patient and wait for an AV auction to happen nearby. Maybe even get lucky and find a 37" D-Series next to your apartment's dumpster.
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>>8115460
lol the fabled 'd-series' looks like shit
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>>8098335
I’m looking for a 19-20 inch Sony Trinitron PVM and it’s gotta have RBG BNCs. The only ones I found were a good $800. Life is suffering
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>>8115467
Upped the brightness in that image to show the exterior. It looked pretty good in person.
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>>8115482
those have never been common, $800 is (almost) reasonable desu
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>>8115460
>AV auction
How would I find that
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>>8107219
Yeah

Console AV Out -> SCART -> BNC is usually how it’s done as far as I can tell
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>>8115494
I could settle for something a bit smaller, but I really would like something not small. Might just have to bite the bullet and pay $800 when I got the money. It’d likely be the last CRT I’d ever need so I guess I can justify it by saying that
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>>8115515
there are other things you should consider, like buying a component set with an rgb2comp transcoder, modding a consumer set, or even non-pvm RGB capable sets like the kv-20xbr or profeel
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>>8115496
Any search engine of your choice
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>>8115538
It only gave me local auto auctions.
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>>8115526
also off-brand or re-brand monitors can often be found cheaper
https://www.ebay.com/itm/255075690321?hash=item3b63b22751:g:5vgAAOSwBGJhAPOQ
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>>8115549
https://www.ebay.com/itm/185021395797?hash=item2b14227355:g:tP4AAOSwEw1hJWsB
this is arguably more desirable than most 20" pvm
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>>8115553
great but its in Alabama for pickup only. Its defintely easier to find CRT studio monitors in bumblefuck states sometimes.
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>>8115561
you miss the point -- it took me 2 minutes to find these. You just have to know what you are looking for, broaden your net. An even cheaper route would be to find one of the 20" JVC monitors that is missing rgb inputs and then buy the repro RGB card
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>>8114260
im in my 30s now & half dead(deaf)
when you get good enough your neighbors no longer mind your playing as long as it isnt at 3am

i gave them copies of my record labels releases before moving & they said i was welcome back anytime.


technically, you can get sometimes even superior sound for recording purposes out of combo amps & even 1x12s with the right setups


i prefer to feel the sound when im rehearsing & as the only other musician in my avant-garde project besides the drummer i need to be able to blast a room dead.


nothing more cringe than having inadequate amplification for even a bar gig


specs: vintage 30s/greenbacks/G12T-75 celestions only, handwired in the UK


>tldr git gud
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>>8114969
Say what you will about MLIG, I thought that composite and RF cables looked like shit when I was younger, and I wanted to buy component cables for my game systems. Wii homebrew looked especially shit with the color fringing and interlacing making it hard to read text.

It's a shame that there aren't many services that can mod RGB output on a CRT, considering PVMs are so damn expensive and CRTs that have component or SCART are hard to come across.
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The remote that came with the tv i just bought doesn't work and I can't get the wiiu game pad ir remote to work either. I'm worried that the IR sensor might be dead. Anyone have any experience replacing those?
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>>8115701
manufacturers have their own PCB / service manuals/standards & changed over time


it's possible to easily RGB mod some sets & autismo for others

hence no "service" readily available- just use a crt for 240p systems and proper upscalers and gaming monitors (1080p) for newer shit - special case scenario use a crt for ps2 on specific titles when needed


i feel like people spend more time obsessing over picture quality than actually playing. dithering actually matters on some titles and your "trash" crt is objectively better a lot of the time anyway
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>>8115725
test it w/ a generic remote
i recommend getting an old android with ir blaster for $30-40 and always having it on deck for shit like this

plus: it might work & saves you from a cringe tv remote collection that you dont probably even want anyway
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>>8111806 here. I went with my friend and my mega drive with chink everdrive to test it before picking it up. Geometry was pretty good, a bit blurry picture on the side of screen. Poor lady and my friend were looking with picrelated face when I was running 240p suite and Bare Knuckle on it. They thought I was doing some magic. 16500 hours on the tube in service menu. I took it to the other flat
>>8111945
>>8112758
Yeah I regret not having a cart for those situation it was very awkward to transport, even with two persons. I kneel
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>>8115567
>it took me 2 minutes to find these two items that are completely useless to you and in no way help
might as well have linked him some fishbowls and lawn flamingos.
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>>8115701
>SCART are hard to come across
*laughs in UK*
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>>8116795
you will never be a human
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>>8114331
Yes
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>>8115567
You miss the point. Obviously if your search parameter is the entire fucking country yeah its pretty easy to find good deals.
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>>8098335
Ops pic is one I've owned and lemme tell ya, best crt I've ever had. Too bad that whore took it
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need help on identifying the crt in this pic, thanks!
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>>8117174
kv-13fs100
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>>8117192
thx
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>>8115460
D-Series, the trash with the bubble distorted screen.

No thanks.
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>>8112767
>having all screws flying around and not neatly sorted in a box
ngmi
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>>8117009
I've lived in the east, west and midwest, and I have never had trouble finding cheap monitors. You really just need to know how to look
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>>8115620
The DSL1+celesion blue setup is amazing for home jamming.
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soul
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>>8118128
zelda?
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Imagine wanting a bargain bin brand CRT like Magnavox or JVC
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Broksonic gaming television
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>>8118627
"gaming"
wew
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>>8116795
you don't understand
how absolutely fucking annoying it is having to deal with RGB scart connections in the usa

half the time you poach a cable online and its just AV composite with a scart end

PAL region systems are an absolute bitch for anyone in the states to even pretend to use

beyond frustrating
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>>8118582
Haven’t seen one magnavox in this thread
Also why are you trying to do console warrior shit itt?
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>>8118000
trips of probable truth
i prefered the class5 or vox"night-train"
but everyone is different & needs their own spin/inflection on their tonality

i said avant-garde but i rarely use heavy sludge distortion if at all - having as many tricks as possible keeps things interesting

i use coiltappings on p100 pickups to stack 6-7 loops that all sound very different onto eachother & a custom built telecaster i made


>not using a full-stack for chiptune during parties
dmg-01 prosound modded & midines
cheers
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>>8118459
ff ix
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>>8115312
how much for the fat bald guy?
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>>8118826
don't feed the trolls
there is a bump limit
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>>8118836
6 beers
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how limited am I if i have a PAL CRT TV? will i be able to play games in 240p or will i be forced to some wierd resolution like 288p and only able to play PAL games properly ?
>>8115701
>SCART are hard to come across.
*laughs in spanish*
im clueless to why USA never got something similar, isnt there like a 5€ mod that can give most US TV sets RGB anyway? so the tech was in there already, there just wasnt a port for it right?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L52lDOKzXfU
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hey fellas, is it possible to service a trinitron kv1380-r that has a noticeable horizontal line center screen/picture gets cut off at the top & bottom? or should i just go invest in a pvm/appropriate hook-ups?
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>>8119049
best i can do is 1/3 of a flat beer
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>>8119310
throw in the crossword section from a newspaper and it's a deal
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>>8119103
Sounds like vertical deflection issue, usually bad caps or bad IC. Caps are easy to replace, ICs can be hard to come by, but you can still get them.
Is it worth it? Depends on whether you are capable of fixing it or know someone who will do it for free, I personally wouldn't spend any serious money on a CRT unless it's something special, no idea what KV-1380 is worth, but it looks cool.
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>>8119074
>how limited am I if i have a PAL CRT TV?
Depends. Most newer PAL CRTs (from the 90s onwards) display NTSC/PAL60 without any problems. Sometimes there's a switch in the menu/on the remote, usually it just works.
I know there are some sets that only support PAL60, which is 480i60 just like NTSC, only that the colors are encoded in PAL. Composite NTSC signal on those will be displayed in black and white. But you don't want to use composite anyway. RGB will work normally.
I'd say if you stick to RGB and your TV isn't super old then you're good.
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>>8103592
thats only front projectors, which is why you should suit up if you work on one

>>8105589
>>8102452
240p/480i pure analog RP tvs should have no lag, digital HD rear projection tvs will have some
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>>8119074
Yeah, I've thought about buying a bog-standard CRT, and then going down the rabbit hole of adding an RGB input and passthrough (for stuff like capturing video footage with a capture card) to it.

I'll have to learn how to solder and then get the special metal cable I need for grounding the screwdriver used to pry at the inside plunger (to prevent being electrocuted), since I also have plans on modding my old game consoles and maybe finding a way to use it as a RetroArch display, since I'm finding a bunch of older games more bearable to play again with the anti-flicker shaders.
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>>8119401
>thats only front projectors
No projectors used ionised rays
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>>8119606
Well, as someone who's never done that mod but generally pretty experienced in electronics: I'd say doing rgb mod for crt telly might be one of those things that you shouldn't do as your first project, if you don't have someone you can ask questions. (So you might be better off learning to solder, then doing the consoles to build up your skills and confidence etc) One thing you could do, though, is to get a set that accepts component video (ybpr) and use rgb transcoder for consoles. From quick googling, retrotink rgb to component transcoder sells for around 65 usd.
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Can someone please pill me on the crt vcr/cd combo tv?
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>>8119845
>pill me
It's another jewish lie, they don't really exist.
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>>8119849
You are joking. R-right..?
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>>8119845
neat
remember you can't throw it away when it inevitably breaks its better to have separate vhs/dvd
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I haven't turned on my old 1992 GE woodgrain tv since last month when the picture suddenly faded out and there were spark sounds and the smell of smoke and I shut it off. What could it mean?
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>>8119845
>>8120293
yep the vhs and dvd players are guaranteed to break, the tv itself usually lasts though
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>>8120862
Check the back for blown capacitors and signs of arcing. You'll have to replace fried components
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>>8120973
Shame, I've had the TV since it was new and in the family living room. As much as I love the woodgrain aesthetic on black, it never had an amazing picture, and I'm terrified of electricity. What should one do with a trash TV? outside of finding a local hobbyist to donate it to
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Is this price right?
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>>8120990
That seems a little expensive to me. I got the 14m4u a few weeks ago for just under £300 (incl postage)
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>>8120990
way too much. That monitor is not that good
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My new tv that a lady from work gave me for free. I know nothing about CRTs but didn't want to look a gift horse in the mouth. Is this a good one?
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>>8120990
never pay more than $0 for a crt
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>>8121626
if you like it don't worry and keep playing :)
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any good hdmi converters?
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>>8121741
for watching 480i content sure. For emulating 240p, it will be much harder for you to do
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>>8121626
Does it have any other inputs behind it? All I can say it's a consumer crt television, picture doesn't seem to have any geometry issues with it. And it was free. So yeah, it's good in my books.
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>>8121626
panasonics are usually very reliable
is it like a 19"? perfect size if it is
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>>8121626
i got my zenith for free when i told them it was for sega


another similar story via craigslist
they had an advert up for $50
and when they found out it was for gaming they said "so cool, just keep it for free thanks"
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>see free Trinitron online
>drive 50 miles
>pick up the 32" 167 pound bastard
>looks great
>can't move it on my own
>doesn't fit anywhere
Fuck, I don't want to go back to the tiny little Sanyo I had previously.
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>>8122362
>>can't move it on my own
Are your arms made of wet paper? Me and my brother could both move around our parents 32" sony like it was nothing when we were kids.
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>>8122362
dyel?
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>>8122397
I'm fairly certain my old JVC was a 32" and I moved that one by myself. But this thing is so wide that I can't get my arms around it to reach the handholds.
>I'm 6'2 and 169lbs
>Trinitron is 36" wide and 167lbs according to cnet
>old JVC in pic
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>>8122506
trinitrons are markedly heavier than shadow mask sets because their glass doesn't curve vertically so it requires thicker glass to manage the tighter corners
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>>8122421
I bench 2 30' trinitrons brah, u mirrin?
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>>8122362
Either make something or find some older, preferably real solid wood furniture to sit it on.
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>>8122637
>palpatine_do_it.gif
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>>8116604
>a bit blurry picture on the side of screen
can be altered with the focus pot but sometimes it can just be because it's not been used for a long time
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>>8123018
Yeah I fucking would. I wouldn't trust most modern entertainment center stuff to hold a bigger tube TV up anymore. My old Panasonic Tau sagged the shit out of an Ikea coffee table. Even the heaviest LCDs aren't much heavier than even a modest 20" CRT
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>>8123046
Roger that. The lady told me that it was sitting in garage for few months so maybe that's it. Is focus pot really gonna help with blurry image on the sides? Sounds like its for overall focus
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How do you get rid of noise/interference from component cables? I have a raspberry pi conmected to a CRT however during the main retropie menu there's a little buzz in the background when I play a game it's still there but very quiet
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>>8123361
Depends on how, as in what you're using and any potential adapters inbetween but in general get better cables
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How do masks/scanlines differ on PC monitors over televisions? Given higher resolutions are the scanlines even visible?
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>>8123496
televisions were usually interlaced at 15khz
where as PC monitors were not interlaced at 31khz
so that interlacing allowed for 240p which is half of the scanlines being blank, giving us the look that a lot of people want
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>>8122506
You're obviously not trying hard enough. I literally carried a set like that up a ladder into the attic by myself a few weeks back.
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>>8123361
So you're using a cable like this? No wonder there might be crosstalk, the 3.5mm was not meant for video. However, it could be other things. Clean all your connectors with alcohol and check for loose connectors
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I Got this Viewsonic PC monitor but it has these dark spots on the screen (possible burn-in?) and was hoping there might be a way of removing them or making them less visible. I tried degassing it through the built in coil, but that didn't do shit.
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>>8124396
play one of those 10 hour black screen youtube videos for 24 hours
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>>8123496
both@240p
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Is there a way to get any decent conversion for a RF only crt or is it not worth the trouble
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>>8124815
I don't think a RF only tv is worth. I guess you cant even make a RGB mod on them.

i guess get a composite one is easier. they are everywhere.
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>>8124815
I assume convert to RF? Use a VCR and a good RF cable. If the tv itself is any good, RF will do fine for video. And if you want stereo I guess get a different TV or an audio receiver. Older TVs that only had RF can have good pictures even some newer ones. I've got a 19'' Trinitron from '83 I think and it's RF only.
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>>8124396
probably burn in, can't do shit
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>>8124815
depends on how much you love the aesthetic of the tv set itself

RF modulation box or quality vcr will convert your signal with no latency as its all analog
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>>8110839
Panasonic
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The ir sensor on my TV is definitely broken, I've tried different remotes and an android phone but nothing works. Anyone have any experience replacing these?
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Are HD tube TVs worth it for the price of free? The tiny DVD-TV CRT combo I have works great for lightgun games, but it only has composite outputs, so I am interested in this model for use with PS2 component, PS3, and maybe Wii.
I hear lag is an issue, but I once used those terrible Hyperkin HD cables and played PS2 on an HD TV, and I never really noticed anything.
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>>8125139
I got one recently for 20 bucks and it looks fantastic for gamecube/ps2/Xbox. It even looks great with ps3/360/wii. Just make sure you get one with a remote so you can change the aspect ratio because it will stretch 4:3 to 16:9
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>>8125139
>Are HD tube TVs worth it for the price of free?
Do you have to go out of your way to get it? If no, then yes it's worth it even if to just try it out for yourself. If it turns out to not be your thing you can always pass it on or possibly sell it to someone else.
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>>8098335
Mine is an old budget one. Gets the job done but I wish I hadn't put my old crt out on the street 10 years ago. What's the best hdmi converter and would it be better than a generic CRT for ps2 games?
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>>8125193
for PS2?
Retrotink 5x probably
And no PS2 will still look better on a CRT, shit looks sharp as fuck
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>>8122506
>handholds
Wait you are trying to carry the thing, well there's your problem.

When I was a kid, we would move CRTs around by dragging, walking, or sliding upside down. Stairs would be handled one at a time.
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>>8125327
I'll keep going with the CRT then. It's also comfy.
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>single-handedly causes zoomers to impulse buy a new-old stock CRT monitor at full asking price
im conflicted, is he based or retarded?
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>>8123496
with higher resolutions, the "scanlines" (really, it's where the scanlines *aren't*) get smaller and smaller. usually they're close to invisible at 1024x768 with 0.26 or greater dot pitch.

pc monitors generally have smaller dot pitch than consumer TVs. TVs generally use slot mask, PC monitors use dot/shadow mask. the higher end models of both will often use aperture grille. also, "dot pitch" isn't the correct term for aperture grilles, but i think the size in mm is comparable.
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>>8125493
heres 480p scanlines on a trinitron
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>>8125665
damn, that's a VGA monitor? the pic makes it looks like it would make my eyes bleed but i know photographing these things sucks ass
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Is there a better way to watch old tv shows on a tube tv or is just getting the DVDs the best quality? I just wanna watch something like 3rd rock from the sun on my consumer composite tv.
Also, I kinda miss that old broadcast look when it was the Simpsons. There was something special about that.
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>>8125875
I use my Xbox 360 to play dvds and stream to with UMS
Pretty easy
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>>8124495
More comparisons please (ps2,xbox)
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>>8125112
same anon huh
the sensor itself is probably not the issue
it could be the logic board or a chip that went bad that processes the signal

unless it's physically and visibly broken i would replace the tv or change the dial manually

another option is an av switcher RF modulator w/ remote (separate device)
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>>8125771
Pretty sure that's a regular TV. No Monitor I've ever used looks that shit at 640x480, even really fucking old ones. The exact opposite in fact
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>>8125875
Collect vhs tapes

They're as cheap as retro games used to be
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>>8125875
>>8125896
Speaking of that, is there a way to force a PAL PS3 to output NTSC signal without CFW? I know that if I insert a Japanese DVD (also region 2, but NTSC) then it can send 480p instead of 576p through HDMI if set to SD resolutions only (it probably sends 480i to the analog out, but I haven't tested that yet). Is there a way to do that when playing media from a mediaserver? It seems to default to 576p for me regardless of what I'm playing.
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>>8119845
>crt vcr/cd combo tv

I've read in most models the internal DVD player has a straight RGB connection to the board, giving you an easy tap for RGB if you desire. Otherwise they are typically cheap shit designed for a child's bedroom back in the day.
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I have one crt that exhibits a problem but I'm no techfag so I'll ask here.

Pic related. Right part of the image is how things tend to look on it although obviously much less exaggerated (image was made in gimp). A kind of "ripple" or instability is noticeable primarily on vertical lines and high contrast text in particular.

Is this a tube problem, or something on the board? I hope its caps, but I have seen plenty of old CRT's with old caps and none of them do that. The tube in particular looks reasonably good when it heats up but it takes a minute to reach full brightness so it is quite old and abused.
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>>8125981
Oh well. I mostly need the remote so I can change the aspect ratio and get into the service menu. I might give this one away and look for a new tv.
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>>8127114
it's normal for a tv to have to warm up. It's most likely your cables receiving interference, but try and get a picture to show us
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>>8127176
Definitely not cable interference as it is noticeable on the OSD as well. I managed to struggle and get a small video showing the problem. Note the vertical line and how there are ripples along it.
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Can anybody answer this question for me?
I know BVM's and PVM's were used for professional color/photo editing and stuff so my question is how in the hell could anyone withstand the atrocious 60hz flicker from such a short distance?
BVMs/PVMs typically have short persistence phosphor on the realms of 1ms much like PC CRT Monitors so the flicker at 60hz must be atrocious from a Desktop-like distance.
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I love my little Trinitron.
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>>8126416
VHS is too hard to find although I do have a VCR and a small tape collection. DVDs are cheap and plentiful.
I'm looking into getting an old roku unit for streaming videos to composite.
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>>8128121
You get used to it. It was never really a bother back in the day, and I only really noticed it for the first few weeks after going back to a PVM after using modern displays.
It's noticeable if I've been using the modern displays a lot and haven't touched the PVM but your eyes adjust quite quickly.
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>>8128174
Did you read the whole question?
I'm asking how they could stand it at a desktop distance(which you have to be when you edit photos/movies etc.).

At a small distance like that it's not a matter of getting used to it since most people cannot stand 60hz 1mprt CRT when they're that close to it.
Normal TV viewing distance? Not that bad. Desktop distance? Completely different story.

I really find it strange that they didn't have options for higher refresh rate like 85/100/120hz considering these monitors cost 5 figures back then.
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>>8128215
I read it, and always found it fine at desktop distance. I still find it fine after a few minutes adjusting it.
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>>8128121
The secret is that they didn't actually care about the monitor providing a good watching experience, the higher tvl is for spotting fine detail and errors that wouldn't show up clearly on normal displays
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>>8128215
I've never seen any difference based on distance and I prefer to sit inches away. Interlaced isn't that great but 240p looks rock solid on a PVM. Yeah the BVMs are little too sharp but that's all preference. I like the M2 series the best.
I don't usually watch movies on my PVM but I do watch plenty of old tv shows. Simpsons via component is glorious.
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>>8098335
Brands are meaningless and arbitrary.
Panasonic used Chungwha tubes in some of their pro sets.
Nothing is sacred.

This is not a Panasonic set nor a panasonic tube btw. Samsung made this tube.
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>>8129028
Factoring in contrast levels and such it feels closer to this in person

Anyway I've had good early 90's korean sets and bad Sony's before. There are no absolute "good brands." Just likelihoods and guesswork.

Do your goddamn research or just pick up one you see in person that you think looks nice.
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>>8129051
Way ahead of you bro, I picked up a toshiba dramatic theater, looks great.
Been playing ps2 and wii through component.
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>>8108689
Is it one of those BEKO chassis sets where you get into service menu with Menu-9-8-5-0? What tube does it use? I had a Grundig with Philips tube and it had a horrible mask expansion issue with bright pictures, purity got all fucked up on the edges if there was too much white for any extended period of time. Those late LG/Philips tubes were utter shit.
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>>8129994
8850 is the code and it uses a 28” Thomson tube
I think it looks pretty good
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Got this for £35 as a Christmas gift to myself
Great condition
Hit the sweets pot of it being new enough to support 60hz but not so new that it's one of those ugly HD crts with washed out colours
And its European so rgb looks great out of the box
The guy I got it from was really nice too, slightly older college age type guy. He seemed surprised that the guy who came to pick it up was younger than him lmao
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>>8099532
Have you noticed any additional lag on it? HD CRTs seem cool but that’s one concern I have.
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>>8130101
didn't even realise how bad the quality was when posting it lmao, brand is "LOGIK"
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>>8130101
Give more space for that poor Xbox
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>>8130130
Are you saying there could be ventilation issues?
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>>8129068
Toshiba sold sets with curved tubes longer than most. Relatively easy to find ones with component video, which is nice. I had a 27" one for a while.
Lots of them are the lower profile tubes that have some more geometry issues, though.
>>8130160
Ecksbawks is too hueg for that space
Real talk: no, that's fine.
>>8130104
I am not the best at noticing non-extreme lag (most LCD's with filters turned off are fine for me), but you'll notice similar latency to that of an LCD panel. If that's fine with you, then go ahead. Or look for a multiscan model (expensive nowadays).
But yeah; that set in the pic looks pretty handsome. If I had space and didn't have my eyes on a 50" Panasonic 1080p plasma someone I know's going to replace soon I'd probably be looking for one.
As far as HD goes I'd just get a plasma, honestly, if you don't get lucky in the multiscan lottery.
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>8130201
No need to blur your name, Wyatt
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>>8130231
fuck you i do what i want
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Are flat panels generally better than curved ones?
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>>8130073
Is it one of those tubes that has no conventional purity/convergence rings but a permanently magnetized flexible thingie in place of that?
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Composite only, but i'm pretty happy with the image
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Is there any point in having an heart tv over an lcd tv? Hdcrt don't have scanlines and they upscale 240p to 480p. They also have input lag and tend to have bad overscan issues in my experience.
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>>8130553
Good for old anime and 6th and 7th gen, not sure how they'd perform with an upscaler for older gens.
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>>8130365
No, they have inherently worse geometry issues because of the nature of steering an electron beam with a magnetic field. That's why no professional crt monitors had flat screens.

On the other hand, they often have more/better input options. Pick your poison.

>>8130553
>heart
lol phoneposting.
And not really, except black levels/color gamut. Both of which a plasma can get you.
>>8130612
>old anime
…was done on 16mm filmstrips and recorded in standard definition 480i to TV tapes.
If you have a Miyazaki film or something, yeah, it'll be nice. Otherwise you run into the same upscaling issues as you would with any other low resolution media.
Scaled old games will look like scaled old games on LCD's, but a little worse because of those typical CRT geometry and convergence (and sometimes purity) problems.
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>>8130643
>That's why no professional crt monitors had flat screens
Incorrect. Sony's D24 and D32 used flat screen trinitrons and they were reference quality BVMs with better geometry and convergence than their previous, "curved" models.
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>>8130431
There are rings, so no
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>>8103643
thats a 14m2e right? have the same one sitting next to me
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>>8108179
retrobrighted my pal snes. turned out nearly perfect, only the front plate with the logo and power LED was somehow unaffected by the hydrogenperoxide
>>8115409
>>8115446
>>8115416
got a pvm 14m2e for 200€300€, got ripped off on postage but eh. was told thats a bad deal. the condition is great from what i can tell and checking sold listings its by far the cheapest 14 series sold recently, most of them going for at least 500€
>>8120990
i paid 300€ for a 14m2e. the fact hes listing it as a gaming crt tells me he just wants to flip it to some idiot
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>>8099410
i have this TV and a larger older Trinitron too. Best I do without paying $400 for a PVM
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>>8131617
>Ordering a PVM online, then considering an inflated price a deal because it's the least inflated.
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>>8131973
>being angry that professional equipment is worth money
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>>8132000
Even without taking into consideration that you spent that much for the professional equipment of 20 years ago, if you're in the Eurozone, chances are you could have gotten an RGB capable TV set (Trinitron or otherwise) for a tenth of that price.
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>>8132020
Burger, didn't have composite until 2003. Upgraded from that TV to a PVM a few years ago to get more inputs.
I love old electronics in general and pro gear is always a treat. No interest in most digital stuff though. I also have a vintage Tektronix scope but unfortunately not a 465. Those things are beautiful.
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Wish there would be non-glossy CRTs. It's annoying that the the glass picks up any small ambient light.
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>>8132086
Get yourself some tinted glass
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>>8132136
How does that look with the screen on?
Aren't PVMs already dimmer than commercial sets?
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>>8132042
>didn't have composite until 2003

how?
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>>8132194
coax only and before that those screw terminal balun things
my old apartment complex used to have two giant satellite dishes that supplied cable to the entire apartments
when ps2 came out we tried hooking it up through the vcr but the picture on the screen just kept bouncing up and down. and then we called the sony hotline and everything but they didn't know why. Gamecube worked just fine through a madcatz coax adapter. we got a new tv a little bit later when the old one finally kicked the bucket. I think it was a zenith.
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Just bought a 36" wega for $5. Gotta pick it up tomorrow. Hope it's good, any advice for testing?
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>>8132521
Good luck carrying that shit
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>>8132523
Bringing my brother. Hopefully we can carry it, it's replacing my smaller Trinitron
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>>8132194
not him but I used the same tv from 1987 until 2002 and it only had coaxial in the back.
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>>8132521
if you have a flashcart hook the game system up to the tv and check the geometry using CRT test suite. I carried my 27" Wega into my apartment all alone. It was awkward and the hallways were narrow. Nearly threw out my back too.
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>>8098541
Don't do this it makes mustard gas
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yall read this article, rite?

https://vgdensetsu.tumblr.com/post/179656817318/designing-2d-graphics-in-japan-from-the-late-70s
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>>8127390
it could be electrical interference from something plugged in line with the tv
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>>8133221
The aspect ratio of the SNES is squashed inside of emulators with the default settings, but that can easily be compensated for.

I'm actually pleasantly shocked at how shaders like HSM's Bezel shader is nowadays at creating scanlines and having the option to emulate a composite output for stuff like the Sonic games which rely on a lot of dithering.
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>>8134261
how does it know which genesis games to do the "dither" part on? I know SOR and sanic cause lots of headache
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I checked at a tiny tv repair store near me if the guy still has an old CRTs and I didn't get to see it but he said he has a 20 inch emerson with a flat screen. He told me 100 bucks for it. With that much info should I go for it?
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>>8135816
dont bother going back to that store
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>>8135826
Well fuck. I've had so little luck finding anything in my area and I don't feel like paying out the ass on ebay or some shit.
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>>8098335
I have a 1702 and a PVM 20M2MDU, but how in the fuck does the 1702 looks so good with composite? The picture dont do it justice, but IRL its sharp and clean. It doesn't show any of the typical composite issues like dot crawl and blurriness and the colors are vibrant. I've owned other TVs in the past and they all made composite look like shit. How does the little monitor look so good?

In contrast the PVM I have looks awful with the same composite signal. Its great with RGB and S-video tho.
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>>8136069
Medium or low tvl and a good filter on the composite input. Sometimes random old tv models are just like that where they have almost no dot crawl.
PVM composite inputs tend to have dot crawl really bad. That's just the way it is.
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>>8132146
>dimmer
It's because of your precious scanlines, you can test this out by installing Retroarch and using the stupid CRT-Royale shader. The image will get drastically dimmer.
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>>8099532
you've got to play halo 3 in the dark. best HDR ever, that shines on a CRT like that. the backgrounds also blend so much better than on an LCD.
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>>8135838
Get a tank full of gas and go driving around.
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>>8132086
reapply the antireflective coating
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>>8127390
>>8127114
that would be the horizontal syncing being a bit off. can't say more than that.
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>>8136069
Don't know if it has anything to do with it, but it seems to have differentially driven video stage (R-Y, G-Y, B-Y, Y) so the luma gets processed completely separately of color. When TV's started getting baseband inputs they tended to decode straight to RGB with monolithic IC's. It should't really matter unless there's some weird cost cutting going on inside the decoder chips.
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>>8110839
Hey I just got this same TV but its a Panasonic. Do you know how to get consoles running through the front audio and video plugs? Currently I have to run consoles through a rf box.
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>>8136069
You can get even better image quality by using an S-video to Commodore video converter.
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found an old new stock of some czech CRT... I don't even know if I want one but I can't pass this up can I....?
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>>8137837
old new stock is half a meme. Man things degrade just sitting there
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>>8098335
Gave mine away years ago. Don't miss it.
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>>8137875
just like one that is regular in use will degrade over time. but lower usage hours are always better
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Think my search for a VGA CRT is finally complete. Scored this Sony GDM-400PS today and it's looking good, least the screen is. The shell is very yelled and it has a slight crack in the front. Might try and do a full tear down and retro bright, crazy glue the crack.

Now I just gotta finish up my WinXP machine for it.
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I like sharp.
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>>8138287
I see you got the ceiling model
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>>8138305
What's in there, a PC engine?
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>>8137875
CRT itself doesn't really degrade by itself unless it leaks, and it's really the only component that matters, everything else can be replaced.
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>>8138523
No?
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>>8137875
Tubes don't degrade just by sitting.
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>>8138573
oh it's an nes, the controller port threw me off
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How dangerous/hard is an rgb mod
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>>8138305
Why is everything in japanese besides "ROM CASSETTE LOADING" and "CONNECTION PIT"?
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i want to trade my 20l5 for a copy of rule of rose
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>>8138646
I see this is your first time seeing a japanese product
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>>8138646
becrause eigo is soo coor
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>>8138787
I think your brightness looks a bit high there
The colours look a bit washed out
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>>8135838
Where do you live in the middle of black as night Africa? They're everywhere jamal! Just don't steal mine!
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>>8098335
this JVC i picked up in may looked amazing, but it broke down a month later. I suspect the voltage regulator was fucked
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>>8139775
>but it broke down a month later
jesus, did you use a surge protector?
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Hey bros, in PAL region here recently been offered a Sony KV-14V4U. Does anyone know if it can take NTSC input and display in full colour too? Only information I can find in manual is that the built in VCR can play NTSC tapes but not sure if that extends to any of the video inputs. Currently have an NTSC SNES that's only good as a doorstop as I don't have a display to hook it up to.
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>>8139871
if it can display NTSC through its VCR, why would it not through inputs
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>>8139871
nevermind, I looked it up for you
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>>8139882
Ya that's the same page I found, but seems unclear to me as the only mention of NTSC is that it can facilitate playback by adjusting the tape speed?
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>>8139890
it says euro av-21-pin so it could be RGB
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>>8140008
looks nice, you should get somewhere to put it
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market crash when bros?
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>>8140402
when normie foundry finally shuts the fuck up
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>>8140413
more like any tech youtuber shuts the fucks ups
wrG4P
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>>8140402
When the economy as a whole crashes. It'll happen at some point.
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>>8139535
Where you live I’ll buy
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>>8140008
That's a nice controller.
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>>8138645
depends
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>>8139675
My cameras were on the fritz for some reason.
Mine looks as good as the other pvm in this thread. Something wrong with the cameras.
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>>8139675
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>>8140619
az but idk if i actually want to do this. i was just feeling really manic and anxious about not being able to obtain rule of rose last night as it's my holy grail and way too expensive. i don't even use my 20l5 as i prefer my 14 inch pvm but i might want to use it in the future when i have a larger living area.
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>>8141203
stop using flash my nigga
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>>8141475
Obviously you can sell the 20l5 for enough money to buy multiple copies of rule of rose. A straight trade would be retarded.

That being said who wants to trade their fw9000 for my bvm-d20f1u?
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>>8141680
how much do they sell for? rule of rose is like $600-$800.
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>>8141475
Can't you just buy the Japanese version? I'm pretty sure it's much cheaper, especially if you can buy it in one of the stores in Japan instead of ebay.
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>>8141689
the japanese version is still fairly expensive and i'm going to need to buy a japanese ps2, which i've been meaning to do anyway.
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>>8141686
Oh shit, nevermind. The last time I saw it being posted it was like $350. Yeah that's crazy. It would still make more sense to sell the monitor instead of trading. 20l5 could probably fetch you an even $1k to the right redittor.
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>>8141709
i'm probably not going to sell it although it hasn't been turned on for years. it's in flawless condition so at least it looks nice sitting there acting as a table. i'd buy rule of rose for $350 without hesitation at this point.
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Is rule of rose actually good? I've been looking for a horro game to play this October.
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>>8141739
people complain about the controls but the graphics, atmosphere, and story are cool. i haven't actually played it myself because i have a personal rule about only playing games that i can get a legitimate copy of.
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>>8141758
What about buying a jap copy but actually playing on a ps2 with opl?
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>>8141761
i don't know how that works. i've never been into modding. if i can easily do it and don't have to risk damaging my ps2 then i'd be willing to.
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>>8141780
No permanent mods and you dont have to open the console or anything. It literally extends the life of your console by not using the laser assembly.
You do need a ps2 fat though. You use the hdd adapter and run images off of the hard drive.
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>>8141697
You can play imports if you have a modded PS2. Also, you don't even need a modchip, just play the ISO via LAN using FMCB.
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>>8141780
>>8141789
Slim also works. It has a built in ethernet port, so you can just use SMB to share the games from your PC and play them that way.
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Nanao MS8 (I think?) in my Astro City candy cab.
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>>8141789
>>8141802
thanks, i'll look into this. i was under the impression that you had to have some thing to open the tray while the disc is spinning or something.
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>>8141812
Nah, that magic swap disc. Free mcboot and opl are sick.
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>>8141809
>in my Astro City candy cab.
Jelly
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>>8141839
Yeah, I bought it like a decade ago. It has held up very well, monitor is great with only minor burin-in at the top which normally isn't visible. I'm guessing a previous owner serviced it as it warms up super fast and is very bright and clear (either that or Nanao monitors hold up incredibly well).
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>>8141850
Had a chance to get one in aus for 1500 bucks (about 1000usd)
But I’d have to get it shipped and everything is locked down so I passed, I also don’t have anywhere to put it at the moment
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>>8102157
Get a Star Wars DVD and a dvd player. Use the THX setup. It helps you set the blacks and whites correctly.
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5 years ago I could walk over to any thrift store and buy a CRT for $10

Now none of the thrift stores dont sell or even take in CRTs anymore and fucking assholes selling online realized just how much more money they can sell their shitty dogshit TV as a "gaming TV"

Fuck CRT. Just play the games.
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>>8142547
>5 years ago I could walk over to any thrift store and buy a CRT for $10
I did that less than five months ago you lazy fuck.
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Would a 40 inch HDTV CRT be too big for 5th and 6th gen gaming? Just saw one on craiglist but I’m afraid that the upscaling on it would ruin the classic CRT look
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>>8142837
I have a big crt, not sure how big exactly but it'd be around 40 inch.
And my ps2 and wii look great through component on it.
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>>8142837
The bigger problem is it's going to weigh 200 pounds, almost all of it in the front. But that aside, HDCRTs work very well for 6th gen but struggle with 240p so not so great for 5th gen.
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>>8142551
Five months ago? I did it yesterday!
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>>8142837
>>8142846
I’d say the closer to 30” for a CRT, the better
But I suppose you are talking about widescreens right?
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>>8142837
those projector tvs are not crts btw. the only known 40" crts out there are mitsubishi (speaking out of my ass btw)
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>>8137837
Did you buy it? Pics?
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>>8143237
>>8102157
this is my crt
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>>8143358
Ah, as was stated before, it’s not really a CRT as there is no tube involved
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>>8143385
what is it then?
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>>8143385
It's a CRT projector set, there are three tubes.
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>>8143392
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XvJmox8Grww
>>8143394
I suppose you are right
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What's the best way to get 240p consoles into a vga monitor
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>>8143438
With an upscaler
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>>8143438
line doubler
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>>8143438
Some kind of cable with connections on one end for the console and connections on the other end for the monitor.
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>>8143523
Not that simple unfortunately
You can’t just connect 15khz and 31khz apologies signals without some sort of transcoding
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>>8143557
>apologies
analogue*
that's what I get for phone posting
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>>8141809
>Astro City candy cab.
what is this? Someone redpills me on arcade cabs
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Is 480p worth? I have a 32in Trinitron SDTV and I have a component cables for my Wii and PS2 but I'm getting fomo about not being able to use progressive scan mode.
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>>8143573
Hey, at least you apologized.
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>>8143583
Just go look em up on youtube, they look much better in use
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>>8143583
Japanese arcades often made use of "generic" (and I don't mean that in a bad way, as many are very well built and made by well known companies like Sega, Konami, Capcom, Irem, Jaleco, Taito, and so on) sit down style arcade cabs instead of dedicated cabinets. They're relative short, made of metal/plastic/etc instead of wood, and tend to have rather large monitors. They're a great choice for home arcade setups, as they're easy to move around, comfortable to use for long periods, and are designed for easy game swapping. If you want them dolled up for a particular game, they do have marquee holders and a section above the control panel to place a move strip.
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>>8143724
Thanks anon, so I imagine if you got one for your self, you'd be installing MAME on it?
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>>8143751
I have a few candy cabs and use original PCBs. I got most of them years ago when they were relatively inexpensive.
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>>8143805
Pretty difficult to find one without some burn in though it seems
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>>8143812
Yeah, mine has very minimal burn-in, fortunately. It is at the top of the screen and you can only really see it on light images. Candies are going to maybe have this a bit less often since games were likely swapped more frequently than dedicated cabs.
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>>8143557
>vga monitor
learn to read?
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>>8143850
Maybe you should do the same
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ordered this dell e551
what am I in for?
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>>8143936
90's office cubicle core
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>>8143936
try and get a refund and find something better
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>>8143948
got a desktop lenovo thinkcentre to go with it
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>>8143237
No, its not widescreen.

>>8143248
Its a Sony Trannyton. Sorry I’m not saying more in case a tranny on here sees the listing and beats me too it. Apparently its the second biggest CRT ever released to consumers. I just don’t know if I have enough friends to help me move 300 pounds.
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>>8143964
the sony xbr800, you see it a lot. It's interesting as probably the highest screen real estate for any hd crt, but in my mind it's not worth it because most hd content is 16:9. For anything other than maybe blu ray releases of old 4:3 movies/anime you'll be missing out without widescreen. For games older than the ps2 it's worthless, also
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>>8143982
>For games older than the ps2 it's worthless
This was my concern. I use my current CRT for N64, PS2 anime games, and 4:3 adult cartoons from the Bush era. They all look “correct” on my 20 incher. I have a 77 inch OLED for wide screen HD content so thats not super important to me. But if the N64 doesn’t look good then its not worth it to have a giant CRT
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>>8143964
bro clean up that sega saturn wtf
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>>8143982
>blu ray releases of old 4:3 movies/anime
How often are they true 4:3? I have a Dire Straits Alchemy BD and despite the concert itself being in 4:3 the video is 16:9 with not-completely-black borders on the sides. It's annoying af on an OLED when something that's supposed to be black is not black at all.
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>>8144012
not my photo, just a random one when i searched the model number. I’m actually diagnosed OCD and my house is super organized. I’m currently picking at my scalp obsessively because when making my last post I looked at my PS2 and PS3 coomlections and was reminded that Sony originally shipped PS3 gamecases with a red PS3 in spiderman font on the spines. Then halfway through the lifecycle they switched to a black PS3 label on the spines. Sorry if not retro but those games are right next to my PS2 games (which are considered retro). Again not my picture. Sony has cursed my with a mess that its impossible to clean. Im considering throwing away every single case to my disc based games and condensing them to a single binder because of this.
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>>8144034
Not that anon, but the PS3 labels grind my gears too. Also, there are a few games from 2013 or so that have blue labels to match with PS4/Vita, for example Drakengard 3.
Japanese PS1 cases have this problem too, hell, it's even worse. Some cases are standard CD jewel cases, single and double (fatboxes), but there are also Japanese exclusive 2CD cases that not only have a different label (just a big logo without the "Playstation" text), but are also a bit taller than standard cases. Just look at this >>8125284
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>>8144057
I'll correct myself, it's a big logo with the text underneath instead of the text alone to be precise. A good OCD trigger anyway.
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>>8144031
>the video is 16:9 with not-completely-black borders on the sides
well this wouldn't be a problem on a 4:3 screen where you can just zoom the picture to cut off the borders
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>>8144034
just segregate the black ones from the red ones god
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>>8144132
>segregate the black ones
thats illegal
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>>8140008
Wow, is that a Tandy 1000HX?
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>>8143936
You'll get the being poor in the early 00's experience.
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>>8143964
Would not feel comfortable having a speaker under that CRT. It's probably properly shielded, but just doesn't seem worth the risk.
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>>8128138
Beautiful TV and pad
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>>8144350
not in my house
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OP here, surprised this hit bump limit.
Thanks for the fun thread /vr/os!
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>>8145745
the crt general hit the bump limit and everybody just came over to this thread instead of making a new one. Time to restart the general
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>>8145896
which is now here >>8145934



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