What are you playin?What's your favorite weapon?Latest 1cc?Let's talk about shoot-em-ups.
>>8098128Is Aleste 3 any good? I downloaded it but haven't emulated it yet. Also here's a Thunder Force doujinshi album from 1998.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f5R5YIW90qQ&list=PLsMvKnB7m6NT3Ok9dqVjs6tIrjZCCtqJ1&index=1
>>8098128>>8098269hell yes just turn your brain off and enjoy some dot dodging but not much replay value after the 1cc which is normal for the genre I guess
>>8098269It's a bit tougher than 2, but definitely worth playing. And turning off the slowdown in the collection makes for a pretty hectic game.
>>8098128>What are you playin? Sexy Parodius and Ketsui, peak shoot er ups>>8098285anime doom would be very very appealing
Haven't played one in a while, the last ones were Ginga Force and Natsuki Chronicles but they aren't retro, the last retro shmups that i played was Under Defeat.>>8098285FPS would be the shittiest genre ever made if third person shooters didn't exist
>>8098128Touhou 12 - UFOSanae BMy 150th UFO 1cc
Salamander 2 chads report in
I'd like to play shoot em ups... In a certain way. Do you understand?
What's the best place to discuss shmups? system11? The subreddit is dead and is run by a sole powertripping janny who looks like the offspring of a frog and a serial rapist.
>>8098356I tried to like Sexy Parodius but it's a chore and even with the different routes theres barely any variety. Parodius Forever With Me is massively superior.
>>8099438Shmup Junkies Discord. It's about as cancer-free as it gets for places to discuss video games.
>>8098510Even I as 36 years SHMUP veteran think that's an inane opinion.
ShmupArch or ShmupMAME? Or do I need both depending on the game?
>>8099508ShmupArch. If Electric Underground uses it then so should you.
what vertical neo geo shooters (traditional spaceship/plane) are there?
>>8098269Unless something's changed very recently, Aleste 3 can't be played on emulators or real hardware due to some baked-in protections that haven't been circumvented yet.
>>8099609Isn't that just the rom itself? You can emulate it on Switch.
>>8099619This is correct! The collection emulates just fine on Yuzu.
>>8098510Odd that you mention those exact two games and they just went on sale on Steam. If you're the developer I love your games.
>senjin aleste is miraculously not only not shit, but actually good as fuck>only 3 people on the farm even bothered to play it several days after it was made available on PC
>>8099759good cheeky lads but>transcord
>>8099714I was literally just hoping Natsuki would go on sale 2 days ago wtf.
>>8099798Is there a digital release yet? Or is this just going to be stuck in arcades?
>>8099883Yes, check out the description here.https://youtube.com/watch?v=JB7jFmS9VHs
>>8099520>If Electric Underground uses it then so should youWell he did make it so he would do.
>>8099886Where do I find arcade dumps in the future? I don't see Senjin Aleste on Emuline.
>>8099886You are a godsend anon.
>>8099886The devs didn't know wtf they were doing with that one looks like a mess of random shmups mushed together like ddp and aleste. kinda trash after you get past the waifu boob bait and nice presentation.
>>8101040M2 are known for porting which is just a copy-paste process, they have no real devs or design understanding
>>8099438/vr/ is the best place for retro shmups>>8099836>>8099759>the most censored and rule-whore server run by an autist who doesn't play shmups sounds typical
>>8100528nevermind it's in the arcade thread, just under the jap name
Guscord baby, we doin' it big out here.
>>8101040It's a lot more fun than it looks from footage imo.
>>8099508Just use normal MAME and use the low latency setting, no need to use Retroarch or ShmupMAME anymore.
>farm threads asking for news on natsuki chronicles have more replies than the only thread on the board that's about actually discussing the gamereally and truly, it makes one ruminate.
Is Battle Traverse any good?
>>8104438It's supposed to be really good actually, yeah. Haven't played it myself tho.
>>8098128I liked these games. I was able to beat them all after a bit of practice. They were honestly more fun that most of the console Aleste games I've played. Those usually drag on too long.
>>8099992>Well he did make it so he would do.he didn't do anything except setting up stuffit's basically and rebranding of retroarch
I got Under Defeat HD+ running on arcade emulator, and oh boy the 16:9 wide-screen new mode+ is beautiful
>>8098128just beat:coryoonmagical chaseblazing lasers (gunhed)+andro dunos / blazing star currently:arcade stick @ pc+redream / ps2 emulation (dodonpatchi, espgaluda, blue wish resurrection plus) also: atari jaguar @ defender2000 +protectorrecommend more guys
>>8098610b a s e d
>>8105906Try to 1cc a shmup you "beat" , like blazing star
Hey anons, i want to play Cho Ren Sha 68K, but Win10 is a fag that runs the game in Fullscreen in 640x480 and i cannot switch to a window, do you know how to help me?
>>8105691cool, which emu? I wish it got released to steam but I had a lot of fun 1ALL'ing the original dreamcast game via emulation. The emulator removed a chunk of the slowdown which might have made a little bit of difference, but to be honest it also made some of those boss explosions not take 25 seconds, so I considered it a win all around.
>>8108145>which emuTeknoparrot.> I wish it got released to steam but I had a lot of fun 1ALL'ing the original dreamcast game via emulation. that's cool.after playing these new full screen HD modes I don't think I'll go back to the original
>>8107795there's a program called Borderless Gaming it forces borderless full screen mode in games, that might work
>>8108296According to the instructions, the game has to have a windowed mode option in the first place. It doesn't sound like it'll work on old games that force themselves into fullscreen.
>>8098128what does the second button do in GG Aleste 3? A is main shot, B does what?
>>8098269Yes, I played 3 and 2 and they're both great so far. You can fiddle with so many settings, it has hard mode, you can remove slow down and play with filters and gadgets, it's awesome.btw Yuzu emulates the GG Aleste collection really well.
I think I like this collection more than Senjin Aleste. Fast hectic movement > bullet hell movement
Anon who was bitching about G-Darius' price last thread. $30 is much more reasonable and I look forward to playing it at the end of the month.
>>8111326Glad you see the light. The game's awesome, be sure to credit feed and explore all the routes
>>8110118>>8110212I don't know about better than Senjin, but I have to admit these seem to be shockingly good. Seems to me the GameGear in general has a pretty underrated library. Also it's pretty nice to learn Yuzu can run on my dogshit toaster, too. It's absolutely perfect for this Aleste Collection, but I hope it can handle the other M2 stuff I've been missing out on like Deathtiny.
Is Batrider fun or is it just retarded design like Garegga?
>>8112965play it and see if you like it
>>8112965it's more retarded than garegga
>>8113259Depends in your preferences
randomly tried this as i was dicking around with genesis emulation. i had a stroke from the gigantic hitboxes and all the surprise buttsex enemy patterns, but the visuals are fun and unique and the music is fucking fire
>>8113393It's also incredibly easy and relaxing
>>8112965>>8113259I do not understand
>>8113849Psykyo does all that better
>>8112965>>8113259Is Batrider the one where you should literally avoid every weapon power up for survival play, or am I spreading fake news
>>8113882That's all yagawa shit
>>8098128Dariusburst Chronicle SavioursRadiant Silvergun's giant sword attackDeathsmiles
>>8113878Sure, but Psykyo didn't exist yet in 93.
>>8113878>psikyo better than raidencan't compare a few games to an entire company's library lol.plus psikyo doesn't do ''it'' better.raiden lets you scroll the screen and has much more interesting enemy layout and level design than any psikyo, which are short, uninspired and formulaic levels that feel almost like a boss rush
Is Aleste Collection on PC or only Switch/Ps4
>>8115378only Switch/Ps4PC users can emulate it with Yuzu.
> DoDonPachi> filters the "just get good" posters of shmup generals
>>8115465get the HD steam version that pixelated shit just aint right
just 3 dudes who love playing (and making) retro shmups
>>8110212is that shit eating grin distracting while playing?
>>8116240yes, but i like it
>>8115465>Playing DFK or any CV1000 game in mameDude don't, the timing is incredibly off. Some shit is way too fast, and some way slower then it should be. Just get a copy of the Steam versionAlso DFK is the easiest of the DDP titles, even a retard like me can get a 1-All on it. That said its one of my most favorite shumps, hyper chaining is just satisfying.
Where is a good place to download the switch version of the Aleste collection?I downloaded all my rom sets years ago and I don't know where to get new shit anymore.
>>8117005>Also DFK is the easiest of the DDP titles, even a retard like me can get a 1-Allthe laser spinner stage is hard
>>8117016I used https://nswgame.com/?s=aleste works fine.
>>8117020That last stage is something else. There is a reason why I only ever played stage 5 in practice mode, but I had to practice that shit a lot. The rest of the stages I just worked out though play thoughs.
>>8117027Thanks mate, you're worth a million
>>8117040most option menus are in japanese though, the game has no US release, but some guy translated them here https://soswitchedon.wordpress.com/2021/01/21/aleste-collection-translation/enjoy
>>8115223>raiden lets you scroll the screen and...?>and has much more interesting enemy layout and level design than any psikyoit's just aimed single bullet enemies 99% of the time>which are short, uninspired and formulaic levels 1 psikyo level has more variety and focus than anything in raiden
>>8117197go play raiden 2, dx or iv, beyond stage 1 and 2
Psikyo are the biggest meme in shmups
>>8117210IV is a psikyo clone, 2 and dx are single bullet shit all the time + a couple static patterns
>>8117238I have Strikers 2-ALLs :^)
>>8117241sure thing ricky
>>8117249I wonder if he's ever going to return with even more outrageous claims
>>8098610Holy dimes. What did they do to brain golem?
>>8117258nah i'm not a raidenfag
>>8116261With these character designs, do they know what they're doing?
>>8117395>do M2 know what they're doing?they are wizards, the rules don't apply to them
>>8117045For anyone wondering, "Comfort Mode" simply eliminates the sprite flicker and slowdown. So unless you simply want to admire how a GG or MS actually ran these games (or would run GG3), you might as well switch it on.
okay but for me? it's xxx1993, the best farm poster.
>>8117629Special (hard) mode and comfort mode on, for max fun
>>8117635That wet suit and body type,very perfecto
>>8117664why does she wear her knickers outside of her pilot suit?
>>8117916no skidmarks to clean
>>8117916She's on duty but as a Japanese, she also must flash her panties every now and then, which is hard to do in a pilot suit. Smart girl.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PnM2RWy3TDcwhat's your favorite song
>>8098128That's good use of bezel for vertical SHMUP.If the scores at the top and bottom of the playfield got moved to the side, it'd be perfect.What game is this?
>>8118714The new Aleste from M2
>>8118717can you turn off or customize the waifu?shit like this is why i play the old versions on OG hardware
>>8118727Kill yourself normalfag scum
>>8118727Yes you can adjust the gadgets, portrait and wall paper in many ways or turn it off see >>8110212
>>8118729Your dad either failed you or is giving you good advice you should stop ignoring.Either way talk about retro games not your mental and sexual problems
>>8118830Follow the advice here >>8118729
>>8118842You should listen to your parents and give up your anime pillows
>>8118860Kill yourself normalfag.
>>8118631>see feces joke in all lowercase>assume it's chavYeah me too.
>>8118810neat i might actually pick this upwhy do i want the expensive collectors edition is it compulsory?
>>8119115NPCs play the treasure shooters because they have the most lip service by autistic feggits on youtube. I'm partial to Gleylancer and Blazing Star
>>8119123>NPCs play the treasure shooters because they have the most lip service by autistic feggits on youtube.very true>>8119123>I'm partial to Gleylancer and Blazing StarGleylancer is great but has some pacing issues and dead air in parts, you should try Razion EX if you like those
Whats a good shump to play for a begginer with a fair learning curve where you keep getting a bit further after every death?Have already played harmful park
>>8119230The one in the OP. I'd play them in order, though.
>>8119230ZeroRanger, but the entire genre is built around getting a bit further with each death.
>>8119230For bullet hell style:Espgaluda 1.Mushihimesama original mode. Then you can try maniac mode when you're good, and eventually Ultra mode if you've lost your mind.Dodonpachi DFKFor traditional style:hishouzame, r-type leo, gradius gaiden, sengoku Ace
been out of shmups for a while, any new shmupmame or alternatives?i'm on shmupmame 0.148
>>8119624FB Neo via retroarch with runahead
>>8118631>>8118886Virgin spergs no one wants at dinner parties.
>>8119293Mushi 1.5 OSThttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MZ_GyRglzSY
>>8119667retroarch ui is atrocious, anything else?
>>8119624vanilla mame is good if you have one of the latest versions, just make sure you turn on the autofire plugin
>>8119882>getting filtered by the most simple ui ever
>>8119884what about lag? what about vanilla fbneo
>>8119885i used it successfully, i just don't like it
>>8119882the wannabe PS4 one that was default for so long is terrible but the new one isn't so bad (basically just a list, nothing amazing but no longer actually an eyesore)
>>8119624For me, since I'm mostly playing lo-res 68k games anyway, the ultimate STG experience is the setup I have at home:NACPCBSanwa deluxe buttons (with the bigass microswitches)Seimitsu LS-32 modded with stiff spring (gifted by emphatic way back when)All of my notable playing has been done on this setup and it feels just right.
>>8120250what is nac
>>8119230DoDonPachiStage 5 is a big jump from the 4th one but you also get a ton of bombs
>>8098128Has anyone beat this game? I've played it a lot but never made it more than 3 levels in. Currently thinking of trying to buy this machine.I know the version on the Genesis mini blows since it is only one player and you only see one screen making it extra hard.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=44kg565Hzjcgaluda 2 coming to switch this monthwowhow does scoring work in this?
>>8120394oof can't they afford spell check or translators?
>>8098274guess you've never heard of scoring
>>8120479that thing the trannys and forever alone mentally ill virgins do?
btw M2 is also making a newer new Aleste https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hl1eeFmWZMg
>>8120481>virgins scoringthen they wouldn't be virgins now would they
>>8120481>trannies scoring then they wouldn't be trannies now would they
the real question is: when do japanese people mean the letter L as R like in Espgaluda, as it would be read as Espgaruda. But at the same time the name Garuda exist but im also sure that i have seen it written as Galuda in some ancient arcade game probably unrelated to shmups, maybe it was a beat em up
>>8098128>What are you playin?Zanac and Aleste games>>8098269>Is Aleste 3 any good?Yes and so is every other game on that GG collection
>>8120537>still thinking Aleste Branch is coming outlol
>>8121717wtf is this real?
Razion EX is finally getting a digital release. Any other chads here bought Gunlord X?
>>8122338Razion EX is fun but I'm not a fan of Gunlord X level design for a run 'n gun, the enemies aren't much of a threat, and quick rolling everywhere reminds me of Sonic levels
>>8122351Agreed. I only bought it in the hopes that they'd finally put Razion on the eShop. If everyone had known it was being held hostage by a mediocre game's sales they would've bought it sooner.
>>8121723It's photo shopped I can tell by the pixels
>>8119884does new mame not have CPU overclock %??? I can't find it to reduce slowdown on Metal Slug 2....
>>8123020got it thanks
I'll recommend this guy's Mame graphics presets https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q0vJrmXHydUyou can watch the vid or just download his mame.ini presets in the description. Makes a huge difference imo
>>8122986>overclocking emulators zoom zoom
>>8120545>>8120561>when nerds try wit.
Time to sick grab this fookin rom
>>8122351>>8122374I only want Kraut Buster but I hope Gayzion is better than the shmup levels in Cuck Lord X
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sNmObdjIz5Emonster hunter player crushing Espgaluda
>>8123576It's an honor to meet a modern poet.
>>8099438Shmup junkie discord is pretty great for general shootemup discussion
>>8123576F you too.
>>8123237Thanks for reminding me. It runs well in Yuzu, surprisingly>>8125060Guarantee it's full of the same soulless zombies that populate every shmup cord.
>>8098128>What are you playin?doj on ps2.>favorite weapon?bomba>latest 1cc?ibara>>8125396yes go back, and stay there.
>>8112965>is batrider funyes and the music is insanely hype
>get the xbox port of psyvariar 2>no roll buttonwell this will be f-f-fun with this pad
do girls like old shmups?
>>8126167>do girls like shmupsno
>>8126167we call them shooters
>>8126189Extremely cute Wazowski in the back
>>8126189jesus why can't anybody grow up anymore?
>>8126353post ur tax returns
>>8126353Mind your own business.
how does this guy play battle garegga every day without losing his mind of repetitive boredom? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xxuUr67FIqw
>>8126626Sometimes I think it would be great to have this particular strand of autism and other times I think it would be hell.
>>8126559>>8126693yeah i wish I liked a game as much as that guy likes garegga
>>8125528>>8125531I have an 8bit arrangement by some Jap doujinshi circle that I forgot I had. Only has a few songs though, 6 minutes total.
>>8126875interestingupload them somewhere?
>>8126938I decided right after I posted that I might as well upload it too. The only STG album he's done so far, doesn't look like he's active anymore.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TYUItOKSoQ8&list=PLsMvKnB7m6NRMrjnzdPmYcfcTMnkmSnBZ
crazy to think that garegga and batwider ran on ancient toaplan hardware
>>8126353>is that....a videogame>SAVE ME PETERSONMAN
>>8127197Late era Toaplan games look just as good though, it's fine hardware
>>8127197The video sub system on these boards was never taxed until the Raizing games were done on it. It's flexible and powerful for a 2D board. Same for the main CPU which is (for this kind of application) simply overkill. It handles this kind of stuff effortlessly. The board was clearly designed for more to come, but it didn't go to well for TP as we all know.
>>8127197a speedy 68k is more than enough to move a few hundred sprites around
>>8127536Real shmup players hate CAVE, 2hu, and Treasure.
>>8128297Because why play all that gay kaleidoscope bullshit when you could be having fun in a Compile game? I want to play a shoot 'em up, not a spirograph.
>>8128297Scoring cave is much too hard and stressful
>>8126559That guy sucks he died and rage quit after first stage haha
>>8128294I understand touhou hate but not Treasure or Cave desu
>>8128487you should comment on his videos tell him to git gud at garegga
What's the worst SHMUP you've ever playedif your post is a popular title, at least tell us why you didn't like it.
>>8128685Strikers 1945I couldn't get the 2-all and had to quit the genre.
>>8128689>filtered by the most normalfag shmup ever madewhat the fuck is wrong with you?
>>8115465Garegga or however it's spelled is the most difficult one for ssaturn
Batsugun looks best for sega saturn eraThere's a ps1 game for the same genre made by the same company too
>>8128715I said I beat all the strikers games but I didn't even beat one
Which is the best Steam Hearts'? Why is it called Steam Hearts'?
>>8129273Cave is the true successor to toaplan
>>8129302>Cave is the true successor to toaplanWhen will sois stop spouting this blatant fake history.
are there any retro shmups that have the speed, style and fun factor of eschatos? >>8129317>>8129273>>8127536>deleted*no funnies allowed, this thread is pure business and pain.
>>8129317If you hate cave you also hate toaplan
>>8129317Toaplan went to shit with B*tsugun and Cave's games are the continuation of this, it's not completely wrong
>>8129332No it was truxton 2 that killed toaplan. Batsugun almost saved them
>>8098128>latest 1ccSilver Surfer on the NES. I never really got into SHMups and remembered people hated this game and gave it a go. Took me a couple hours. The first SHMup I beat and 1CC'd in my life. Where do I go from here?
>>8129348Congratulations that is one of the hardest shmups of all time
>>81293481cc on first attempt happens sometimes, go play SMT Nocturne if u want challenges
>>8129332Nonsense but ok.
>>8129332Batsugun is one of my favorite boards. I hold it near and dear.
What were they thinking with Truxton 2's length? They could've removed checkpoints at least.
S P A C EM E G A F O R C E
>>8130243I was under the impression that both Truxton games were intentionally designed to be unreasonable for all but the most hardcore shooters.
>>8130243it's not that long, barely longer than Same3/ktiger/Dogyuunit's just that there are only 6 long stages that feel like they never end, especially the first 2
>>8130256the japanese title, Tatsujin, literally means "master" (or "expert"), so yeah kind of
>>8131046I swear I will get to the end of the first stage eventually.
>>8131046>>8131084the first stage is pretty bad. the optimal way to get through the first part that lasts like 6 minutes is to get the red weapon and sit at the top of the screen.
>>8127197kinda like how cave's 90s shmups are running on a board which FACE had used for sand scorpion and nostradamus.
>>8131425God damn, really? Talk about shameful, to even be partially associated with Face's shitty shmups
if you guys like the Aleste games I recommend Soldier Blade for the pc-engine, but play it on hard mode if you want some good challenge normal is too easy
LEVELUP LEVELUP LEVELUP LEVELUP LEVELUP LEVELUP LEVELUP LEVELUP LEVELUP LEVELUP LEVELUP LEVELUP LEVELUP LEVELUP LEVELUP LEVELUP >this is what a GOAT shmup sounds like
>>8132398>level upsdoes that one have a good loot system?
how do you win the race in kingdom grandprix?
>>8132517hold a to speed up or something? maybe staying up screen works too, can't remember
>YATTA YATTA YATTA YATTA!!! RIGHTENING BRAEDO!! YATTA YATTA YATTA YATTA YATTA!!! RIGHTENING BRAEDO!! YATTA !Is this game any good or am I being tricked by the cute art ?
I've got a big 4k screen I want to scale up Darius on so I can play it across my whole field of vision, what's my best option for emulation? Ideally something I can apply a CRT shader to.
no one playing shmups anymore
>>8131852Soldier Blade's awesome.>I'll be back!
>>8129986based>>8132605I don't know but I've been playing Darius and it rocks pretty hard imo but I'm not so good
Any shmups where you can play as an ayy controlling an UFO???!?!
What is this mini abomination?
>>8133310pc engine? now that is a chad console
switch chads, how do i git gud?
>>8133413get a proper gamepad or stick and monitor , don't play in handheld mode if you want any results.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IPW6C9jyeYwandhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mje1q66Zazo
goddamn the visibility in this game is bad, everything looks like a hostile objectat least you get to larp as a bullet hell boss (until you die, lose all power and domino into a few more deaths because your pea shooter is no longer effective at stopping the horde from gangbanging you). guess that's what all those extra lives are for
>>8133430>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mje1q66Zazo>touhou considered nothing more than practice modetouhoubros...
>>8133430specifically asking about galuda’s mechanics/scoring
>>8133569the first vid, the galuda video literally explains that
I just finished Darius recently and have been working on Thunder force 3 on my genesis mini. I dont understand how anyone could beat these games without cheats or saving every few mins, seems impossible. Aside from the difficulty I enjoy “playing” these sorts of games as they are fast paced and exciting, also they usually have interesting art and boss designs. Didn’t care much for gradius. Any other notable genesis shoot em ups?
>>8119885Retroarch blows, Openemu is way better.
>>8133310some hobbyist on twitter making little custom consoles with an emulator loaded in it looks like. Looks like chinkshit.
>>8133889Which? Darius are extremely hard, Thunderforce is quite beatable for an average player.
>>8098128GG Aleste II, hard mode 1cc, no slowdown.fun game; will do Aleste 3 next.
>>8115465that's not dodonpachi
what are some good shmups that are underplayed or underappreciated, with lots of room to explore for score? i.e autists haven't gotten their grubby hands on them yet
>>8133889TF4 but it is much harder than TF3. Also Biohazard Battle
https://archive.org/details/cityconnectionshumpsCan anyone confirm if these are legit?
>>8136313Gun Frontier, it kicked off Taito's great shmup library, great art direction too. but always gets overshadowed by the graphically similar Battle Garegga
>>8136320Still can 1CC TF4 on Mania
>>8136449looks cool I'll see what it's likewhere do stg players check hi scores anyway?
>>8136449>kicked offNo, Taito made many shmups before GF
>>8136449Gun Frontier was quoted by Nakashima as one the direct inspirations for Battle Garegga.
Is this the same version on the genesis mini?
>>8136798fucking retard, frontier was yagawas fav game, thats why.
>>8137807Jesus Christ. Kiss my hairy ass you raging troon. :-X
>>8137807That explains why they both suck donkey dick
>>8136548https://shmups.wiki/library/STG_Hall_of_Recordsthere's someone who's pretty much autistic about scores and updates every single game the minute a new score is posted on twitter or other social media, it should be up to date
>>8138006Holy moly cool
when did u realize all the best shmups aren't retro shmups :(((
>>8139253play flying shark
I have to admit it's filtering me a little on normal.
>>8129268I prefer the PC Engine version. Maybe it was my emulator settings but the PC-98 version ran choppy and couldn't set up a controller.
>>8139253hmmm sorry but the best touhous (therefore best shmups) are retro
>>8139852even touhou fans don't think old touhou are that good
>>8139253Ikaruga is retro now
>>8129268Saturn. Just deactivate the god awful visual scenes in config menu.
>>8139867>2001>retroonlyaccording to nu-/vr/
>>8098356>Ketsuibig news coming up for Ketsui
>>8139879ikaruga was retro even according to the previous rules as it came out for the dreamcast which was an allowed system
>>8139867Ikarumba was shit then.
>>8139929that's a very contrived loop hole and you know it. Ikaruga when it came out was not considered retro.
>>8139934t. color-bind fat fingered woman (not biological)
>>8139937neither were most games allowed on the board. was mario 64 retro when it came out? no. this is not a board about retro-styled games, just about games before X year.
>>8139954what are you talking about , retro is just the old feeling of old games
i didn't really discover arcade shmups until recently. i only grew up around one arcade. we had like the capcom dnd beat em up, the terminator 2 game, mk2, mk3, some lightgun games (probably house of the dead), and some novelty racing sims. but nothing too fancy. anyway, thanks to the miracle of the internet there's a few shmups i stumbled on that i really like. i haven't 1cc'd any of them.>battle garegga>darius gaiden>in the hunt>armored police batrider>r-type 2>r-type leoall of those games are fucking badass for one reason or another, and they're all fucking a lot harder than the shit i grew up with like SotN, mario 3, s3&k.other shmups i've played/enjoy are bio-hazard battle, steel empire, thunder force 4. i find i don't really like the other darius games, or salamander/gradius.
>>8139967by that definition all shmups are retro, they're old school to the bone, ikaruga included
>>8139978no wayIkaruga feels like something out of Blade Runner
>>8139971>i haven't 1cc'd any of them.Try R-Type Leo that's a good beginner shmup pretty friendly and fun, Darius Gaiden toothen when you're better go for Garegga, Batrider and Rtype2 etc
>>8139941The fuck you need color perception for you unwashed fartsniffer? You could comfortably play Ikaruga on a BW screen.
>>8139986i've been working on darius gaiden. i realized after a while i was doing well enough to make one of the bosses take on a different pattern because of rank, i assume. i can get to the third stage without dying. i used to have a lot of trouble "converting" the enemies with the orbs on them, but i'm pretty good at it now. i feel like i'm hazy on how rank works in that game, and i'm not 100% i understand how the shield and shot upgrades work. is there a site that details this info?
>>8139998> i can get to the third stage without dying.nice>Rank infohttps://shmups.system11.org/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=79&sid=230d2ae4bde60660e3b1e8d34525a864>>8139997>wahhh I can't undestand polarity and spatial puzzles!another shitter filtered by T R E A S U R E
>>8140006thank you based anon
>>8129348How is silver surfer a shmup??Avgn said it sucked ass so I never played
>>8140006Ikaruga is overrated autisimo shit. I'd rather play RSG.
>>8140027>RSGthat's also overrated, I'd rather play Mars Matrix
>>8140038>Mars MatrixI'd rather staple my dick to a burning corpse
>>8140027>>8140038>>8140110according to the experts ikaruga is the best shmup of all time. you lost chuds
>>8098128Sisters, is it important to transition to get good scores on Garegga?
>>8140123>source: my mum agrees with me
Who is the shmup youtuber reviewer guy who has a southern accent and he reviewed shenmue?He doesn't like Under defeat which means he's based
>>8140280>He doesn't like Under defeat which means he's a bitchfixed*
>>8133889MUSHA. TF III and IV sort of seem like "memorizer hell" to me. Yes, all shmups require memorization and practice, but I feel like those games have shit that will literally kill you before you can react by coming behind you or from below or something. Once you memorize it, it's easy, but meh. They're both aesthetic but not the funnest.
>>8140309zero gunner 2 will always be the better heli shmup
Anyone got a link to the ShmupMame + ROMS zip folder?
>>8140637yeah but you have to post a Strikers 2-all first
>>8140661Best I've got is a Gunbird 1ALL
I beat thunder force 3 yesterday after a few days of save states. It was pretty neat, but boy is there some bad English in the text.
>>8140527TF4 is pretty rough about that but imo it's not especially easy even when you know where the enemies are coming from... it still has challenge beyond memorization esp on higher difficulties.TF3 has a couple of dick moves in level 2 with the fire jets but otherwise it's not so bad. Well I should say TF AC is not so bad, haven't played actual TF3 quite as much but that cucksole-exclusive cave level seems pretty retarded with its blind kills.>>8136450Hard is still too much for me, but TF4 doesn't get boring for me so maybe I can do Maniac someday
>shmups with one hit kills>Shmups with one hit kills AND it throws up a loading screen and pulls you back/restarts the levelGet the fuck out of here with that shit dude
>>8141074Get better instead of whining like a little sissy bitch faggot.
>>8141074It's a huge shit sandwich, and we're all gonna have to take a bite. Otherwise gb2 >>>/v/
>>8098128Does anyone know what are the best versions/methods to play Cave shooters like Espgaluda, ESP Ra.De., and Mushihimesama? I've heard that specific MAME versions with certain configs to deal with slowdown and input delay are preferred, but I'm fairly new to the shmup scene in general and was looking for a little guidance.
>>8141074One hit kills are standard but you're right any checkpoint system interrupts pacing, adds no value, takes away enjoyment and might as well be a jrpg dialogue cutscene that serves no purpose in shmups but wastes time.
>>8142040It's kinda funny how in literally any other genre, checkpoints make the game easier. And by "kinda funny" I mean actually not funny at all, now that I think of it.
>>8141695Mushihimesama steam version is best, then switch. Mame is ok to test the game or do some save stating, but not worth playing on seriously. Esprade is fine on mame but better on ps4/switch. Galuda2 on xbox360 and recently came to switch. Ketsui is fine on mame but better on ps4. Espgaluda1 is fine on mame. DDP and DOJ good on mame.
>>8142049Checkpoints make Ghouls n Ghosts games harder, but it doesn't feel like bullshit because you aren't playing in slowmotion with a pea shooter for a weapon. lots of checkpoint shmups think it's funny to gimp your speed/power on top of it all and have you chase powerups for half the stage again. Only thing you lose in GnG is special armor, but hell if you were in your undies you gain regular armor as a bonus.
>>8142054Thanks anon. Guess I'll pick up Mushi on steam and Esprade on my HK Switch account (physical is like $80). Also, is the Espgaluda PS2 version not worth it? I can easily play it via OPL SMB, but wasn't sure how it compared to the original arcade release.
>>8142073Haven't tried the ps2 version, sorry
>GG Aleste 3's 5th levelThis isn't fun anymore.
>>8142040I think recovery is a skill. Recovering from a checkpoint in Truxton is impressive.
>>8142227maybe if you're just a spectator.
>die from an enemy you've never encountered before that shot a bullet the moment it set foot on-screen>wait fifteen seconds>finally get sent back to a previous segment>also get fucked you lose all your powerupsThis game is not good.
Playstation 1 has tons of these but they're difficult to find online for some reason
Are there arcade shmups that play and feel like Compile shmups? Besides some Raizing titles
>>8142286you just suck, that's how all the good shooters were. go back to fractal avoiding puzzle games if you can't handle actual shooting games
>>8142286instead of saying -this game is not good- it's more accurate to say -im not good at this game-. >>8139934>>8140027instead of saying --ikaruga is shit-- better to say --im shit at ikaruga and dont enjoy it---.Next time word your posts correctly.
>>8133310fucking holy based
>>8142946>>8142968"Git gud" doesn't excuse loading times and shit design. I know you fags haven't completed an R-Type game either, so shut up.
>>8142996>loading timesPlay the steam version, the loads are mere couple seconds. And git gud, so you aren't loading five ten times a stage.ok?
>>8142968im better than you at every game and ikaruga is still shit. it was the most disappointing shmup i ever bought, soon as i saw the enemies flying into each other? was like yeah this is shite and mega arbitrary to make the gay polarity shit work.
>>8142054>Mame is ok to test the game or do some save stating, but not worth playing on seriously.this fucking MYTH and LIE again!you can play ibara and the og modes of futari very seriously on mame, ive proved it enough times now fuck off you autistic shitem archer got V scores on ps2 port of ibara with no slowdown at all and used it for all his practice... the only ppl who need it in the og modes are the illusion of difficulty losers, WHOOSH FAST BULLITZ SLOWED DOWN HAHA IM SO GUD, eat queef.no routing, no practice, no slowdown, still beat 95% of the west... SAD!https://www.twitch.tv/videos/970298041
Any of you fags listen to doujinshi arrangements?https://youtu.be/EuxNEn4_OKg
>>8143047Nah, I'd rather have the port I paid for be functional. I'll give R-Type Final 2 another shot when it doesn't dip below 30 frames in select areas. And hey, maybe they can use the forty bucks I graciously gave them to hire developers that aren't retards.Don't worry though, I'll be playing some good games in the meantime!
>>8142968>Mindlessly praising ikrsugaWhen did shmup thread get so fucking casual?
>>8142968Post your Ikaruga achievement bar, fraud.
>STGG likes ikaruga nowWhat? Did the zoomers take over?
>>8143125doesn't this game have movement inertia and horrendous input lag?
>>8143125> maybe they can use the forty bucks I graciously gave them to hire developers that aren't retards.Your money went towards optimizing my steam version ;) ty>>8143129>>8143135>>8143137learn some breathing techniques, you're turning red from all the seething
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sUBSMiCnD70M2 had an Aleste arrangement twitter thing, this one's my favorite.
>>8143160I heard M2 is going to do another Aleste collection, with Aleste 2 msx version. That should be awesome
>>8143153>movement inertiaNope. The ship stops in place the moment you take your thumb off the stick.>horrendous input lag4 frames
>people defending R-TypeYou faggots were blown the fuck out months ago by our lord and savior. Your game is trash.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C3G6w3kbnoQ
>>8143323stop shilling your channel, Mark.
>>8142879Not really. Compile is super comfy as far as shmups go. I will say that Soldier Blade on PC Engine is honestly like their formula perfected.
>>8143172msx version runs fine on fMSX emulator, 60fps, good sound no bugs
>>8143175I heard someone said it was basically a euroshmup attempt at the R-type formula, and had inertia, or was that rigid force alpha?
>>8143323fuck this guy and neck yourself
>>8143323great video just subscribed
R-Type Final 2 is the best shooter released in the last 10 years
>>8143467it's also the only one
>>8143467better than Dariusburst CS?
>>8098269Thanks for the TFV arrange link
wish treasure would make more shmups like RSG and Ikaruga, bullet hells are getting samey
>>8143439Fuck off shill
so where do you get your shmup roms
is psikyo good for u?
>>8143986formulaic and uninspired gameplay boring first loops and memorization drills for second loops
Is STG shooting games the best genre? I've never played one but if it's the best genre I'll give it a chance
>>8143997objectively yes, subjectively maybe
>>8143997it's a very pure genre.
>>8143995you've just described cave games
>>8143857ebay, strictlylimitedgames.com, etc
>>8098128I played through Final Soldier on the PC Engine. Went through the entire game to the next to last boss with out losing a life. Then I had to use a continue on the last stage. Never got that far before, but I beat it on normal. So much better than Super Star Soldier.
>>8143997STGs are just homework you do before you allow yourself to play fun platformers and jarpigs.
>>8144405Super Star Soldier has unfair checkpoints and is a bitch unfortunately--not in a good way. Final Soldier is a decent beginner shmup and one of my first clears as well, but Soldier Blade is 100% the cream of the crop.
Did the cave ports on switch get slowdown right or no?Hate that my favorite studio has shitty ports due to muh lack of slowdown
>>8145308According to MarkMSX or whatever his name is, Espaluda as 3 frames of lag on 360 and 4 on switch.
>>8145172Super star soldier has a hidden hard mode if you input a cheat code at the beginning. It's actually really fun and tough compared to normal mode which is good for newer players
>>8145334Actually there's a second secret mode called UrAFag which you can access simply by being yourself.
>>8145439Filtered by super star soldier normal mode
>>8142879Mahou Daisakusen AKA Sorcer Striker
>>8145460oh wait you said besides raizing titles, nevermind me retard
>>8145317Based, that makes it easier to scoreIt's just like when my copy of MMP got massive slowdown and gave me a free 1cc
>>8145460>>8145464np bro, great game either way
think im gonna dedicate my life to shmups
>>8143402>>8143426What's it like being afraid of people with skill? I actually clear my games so I wouldn't know.
>>8145471Lol whoops--I meant to say INPUT lag.
>>8145886i did not mean that though haha
>>8145857who is coping here? and with what?
>>8143053The seethe is real, the illness...is FAKE!
>>8146229the heroin is real! (but its 90% vim)
>>8143323started to watch...>footage only to stage 5, none beyond>most of thd footage is stage 3>factually wrong statements about never wanting to detach the force >says tiny hiboxes are an 'innovation'this is like a trash kotaku review>doesn't know the hitbox is tiny, and the classic games were even smaller (single pixel in the first R-Type)
>>8146483I'll take the word of the guy who did a Garegga 1CC over an anonymous poster on /vr/ any day. Accomplish something and maybe your opinion will matter, trash.https://youtu.be/iQHqmPgw_80
>>8146483>footage only to stage 5, none beyondBecause Stage 6+ contains spoilers. You'd know if you played the game.
>>8146387Take your meds, schizo.
>>8146697t. hrt and dilate>>8146496>Accomplish something>1cc a shmupkekarooni
>>8146496those aren't opinions; he was literally wrong and no amount of 1CC Garegga clearing can change that.
>>8146752meanwhile your accomplishments are doing clown tricks on a bike and faking an illness oof better luck next time
>>8146764and yet im better than you at your chosen hobby lmfaoOOF
>>8146764Can he 1cc R-Type Final 2 though? Actually, ignore 1cc, can he clear it at all?
>>8146798my hobbies are having an education and not being a seething autist
>>8146798Really? My hobby is fucking your mom.
is Mark himself shitting up the thread? though it's been put on autosage already
>>8146825>mark spending any time doing anything that isn't gonna give him money or attentionc'mon son
>>8146809>mom.you have to go back>>8146806so your lifes shit then?
ummm fellow shmuptards? im thinking we're back
Looking for a recommendation. I need a shmup to play that will help me cope with my debilitating fake illness. What's the scoop?
>tardo resurfaces>immediately restarts the jihadUhhh chavbros? I'm getting nervous
>>8146825Why is he living rent free in so many people's head?
>>8147568He's the leader of the shmup community. Naturally he will have many enemies.
>>8147538>restarts the jihadQRD??