>>7847262His name is Vega, retard.
Same company that bitched about Fighter's History supposedly copying their material
>street fighter is original>said no one ever
>>7847369you know, i don't mind people ripping other ideas off, as long as they do something slightly different. i never played fighter's history, but is their anything that distinguishes it from SFII?
>>78473691. real life person2. real life person3. manga4. both are video games. THIS IS COPYRIGHT INFRINGEMENT!
>>7847484It doesn't have to be the same kind of media for it to be copyright infringement, and even individuals can successfully sue if their image is used without their consent. It's called right of publicity.
>>7847512>and even individuals can successfully sue if their image is used without their consentits a hell of a hurdle to prove they're actually using your image and personage instead of just likeness, ask lindsay lohanand afaik the bruce lee lookalikes are "allowed" as homages by the bruce lee foundation or whatever the name of the people who are handling his rights now
>>7847519>bruce lee lookalikesThere are lots of Bruce Lee clones in Hongkong movies during 70s.Jackie Chan often uses the term Bruce Chair and Bruce Table for them.He didn't want to become a Bruce Lee clone because he thinks that fake things can't beat the original.
>>7847519I don't know, M. Bison is much more obvious than Lacey Jonas. But it looks like Tyson didn't even learn about it until 2019, so that might be why he didn't sue.
>>7847563If Tyson knew back then, would he have thued them into bolivian?
>>7847656He probably wouldn't have given a shit. All that was on his mind was making people a meaty pile of mush.
>Guile's design is based on Polnareff according to Capcom devs>even though his design is clearly based on Stroheim instead>meanwhile, it would be Benimaru from KOF who more closely resembles Polnareff>Stroheim was extremely nationalistic, patriotic, and an ally to the end>Guile is extremely nationalistic, patriotic, and an ally to the endWhat did Capcom mean by this?
Weren't these characters copied from Kato? Major antagonist from Teito Monogatari. Atlus used the same design for Reidou
>>7847993Yeah, he's kind of a stock character in a Japan by this point, kind of like Dracula.
>>7847449Data East apparently copied the play mechanics of Street Fighter II way too closely when they made Fighter's History.
>>7847265>he goes by the weeb nameHahaha what a loser
>>7847262M Bison (Jap) is mike tyson woah did you know
>>7848201>woahDid you know that's not how whoa is spelled?
>>7847265>he goes by the true namebased
>>7847262Riki Oh is a fun manga. I especially recommend the 1st ova. Also,>nips rip stuff offBig news
>>7848332I say woah as whoa-ah desu
Anime/Manga and Vidya used to be intertwined, you know?
>>7849015What's your opinion on the live-action film?
Lady Miss Kier sued Sega for Space Channel 5 and lost even though the "homage" is as blatant as it gets and copies even her dance movesApparently they wanted her in the game and later decided to just copy her style
>>7847484Yeah I'm gonna have Goku fighting Evangelion mechs in my videogame since they're originally from manga.
>>7847262Reminder that Guile is based on a Nazi soldier.
>>7847369More than homage they were all stereotypes at the time. The last one is a company trying to capitalise by jumping on the sf band wagon.
>>7849262Araki straight out lifted shit all the time from fashion illustrators like Tony Viramontes or Antonio Lopez. It all comes around
>>7847449it has a unique stun mechanic and karnov
>>7849279>The last one is a company trying to capitalise by jumping on the sf band wagon.People have always done that, tv sitcom is popular? MAKE ONE JUST LIKE IT FOR OUR NETWORK!mortal kombat is popular? MAKE DOZENS OF MK KILLERS!song is popular? just copy the style.Capcom had no right to sue them, just like Data East Vs Epyx ended in being thrown out of court.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Data_East_USA,_Inc._v._Epyx,_Inc.Capcom just didn't like them having the same kinda gameplay, which at the time was groundbreaking.if SNK had released Fatal Fury 1 with all characters selectable and no plane hopping they would have been sued by Capcom as well.Capcom knew that their new approach to fighting games was a hit and they tried to bully people into staying with the broken SF1 style or slower tactical International Karate style.
>>7849301Man, fashion used to have testosterone. That illustration looks like he could caber toss the average zoomer.
>>7849116I haven't seen it in years, but I was used to watch it while getting high. Fun times, 7,5/10.Also got me really interested in Hong Dong cat III movies, along with the usual John Woo/Ringo Lam stuff
>>7849116>What's your opinion on the live-action film?It's completely insane, so people just assume it's some crazy film and nothing like the comic. Instead it's actually completely faithful to the story. But it's only the first part of the manga! He just went to jail so he could investigate. Then he just decides to leave, and it's a full distopian crazy story. I only got a bit into the next part. I should revisit it.
They also ripped off Charles Bronson
>>7847369The only argument in Capcom's favour here is that the medium is the same -- SFII's roster is a hodge-podge of pop cult and manga tropes, but these at least referred to figures in other media, and were purposefully transparent nods to their sources. Japanese players were supposed to recognize M. Bison as Mike Tyson, or Guile as an ironic twist on Jojo's Nazi officer, and part of the fun of the game for Japanese players was that referentiality. Whether the designers of Fighter's History were citing the same set of shared references from which Capcom's designers were drawing or whether they were pulling directly from Capcom's work itself in terms of character design is ambiguous, but that Fighter's History was in precisely the same medium and genre/format as a very successful antecedent would tend to bias one in favour of the latter interpretation.
>>7849160They couldn't ask for another?No, they couldn't ask for another.
>>7850179Whoops wrong linkhttps://youtube.com/watch?v=J1vwlTZ5EGQ
>>7847262I thought this was common knowledge? Like, I assumed this is why they updated the portraits in later revisions.
>>7849168You could do that and nobody would bat an eye since there are a million characters copypasted from goku and a billion humanoid mechas you fucking retard
Senko no Ronde copies an old manga Toward the Terra so much it crosses into plagiarism lawsuit material.
>>7847978>Guile's design is based on Polnareff according to Capcom devsInteresting. I never would have guessed.>even though his design is clearly based on Stroheim insteadDefinitely a closer resemblance there, but basing an American soldier's design on a Nazi is just awkward.
Aren't some of Cammy's attacks really similar to Gally's fighting style from Gunnm too?
>>7849081wow, thats pretty blatant
>>7851017this ones cool is there any others stuff from goldsrc games like this
>>7851017>Map: C1A1COh yeah, from game. Cool.
>>7851081>zoomer never played Half-Life
>>7851105>anyone who hasn't played Half-Life is a zoomer>there can be no one my age who isn't into shooters
>>7847265Hi! Actually on this board we refer to him as "Dictator" :)
Well fighting games in general rip off popular movies, animes and whatever fancies their sensibilities, or because it looks plain cool>>7847563He looks like the kind of guy that wouldnt care
>>7851384Yes i know mk was supposed to be a bloodsport game but they could have at least changed the clothing
>>7851389Forgot pic goddamnit, in drunk sorry
>>7847262How the fuck was Capcom not sued into oblivion?
>>7852172The photographer whose assets were used has just recently sued them, same for the frankenstein's army director, from wich they stole the propeller head dude
>>7851160I had other FPS games at that age when it was out so I’ve never played it either. Didn’t play the second game either.
>>7848973This guy know his history
>>7848973This is shamefully blatant. Then again I heard somewhere Japan doesn't have strict copyright laws like the US so they can get away with it.
>>7853642Japan seems to have this unwritten rule that if you wanna come up with something just rip off two things that you are a fan of and combine them.So in my case i'd say "I really liked Outrun and Smokey and the Bandit, so I'mma make an Outrun game with a smokey and the bandit theme"Funny how they still sued Data East even though they clearly created SF2 by those standards.but like others said they were just trying to keep others from making games that played like SF2, because it really was a game changer.
>>7852490Isnt that guy just being a hipster s.0.y and wanting his farts to be heard?
>>7852490Who? What? What assets?
>>7847369Capcom does no wrong. Fuck off.
>>7847262Japan was all about plagiarism before the 2000s.
Has Nintendo been guilty of this kind of thing? Just wondering.>>7854406The resemblance is striking. I think the director has a plausible claim. https://www.gameinformer.com/2021/05/10/frankensteins-army-director-claims-resident-evil-village-monsters-are-based-off-his>>7854493Check the Polygon link earlier in the thread. Some photographer's designs were lifted for Resident Evil 4.
>>7849081i don't know how the fuck i pretty much never even noticed dracula in the background of that cover. well, guess i'm retarded
>>7849081Hard to believe that Video Game and D’n’D nerds used to overlap, eh?
>>7855515Japan took cutouts of other people's work, then add a bunch of cool/weird shit to make something "new." China takes your stuff, copies it exactly to the best of their ability, then denies it ever belonged to you
>>7849160Remember Samba De Amigo on Wii had Groove is in the Heart on a Space Channel 5 stage with Ulala as well. Nice fuck you from Sega.
>>7847262>>7847369Pretty sure Boxer's original hairstyle is a reference to Takagi from Osu Karate Club.
>>7851142Ripoff or not, that cover art looks sick.
>>7855593>then denies it ever belonged to youThat's what pisses me off the most. Like okay, you copied it, at least have the balls to say you copied it. Don't try to turn it around on me. No one's buying that act but they stick steadfast to it. It's like your kid telling you he didn't eat the cookies when there's crumbs all over his face. Come off it already.
>>7847262> BREAKING NEWS: CAPCOM ARE A BUNCH OF TALENTLESS HACKSwow. what a surprise. wasn't aware of this.
>>7856628>funny school delinquent story with slapstick>suddenly a girl gets raped and killedwhat the fuck
>>7859826>suddenly a girl gets raped and killedlol
>>7849301It call inspiration or mainly Pastiche
>BREAKING NEWS: JAPS LOVE TO STEAL IDEAS FROM OTHERSB'z used to be like the most popular, best selling band in Japan and it seems like 3/4 of their songs were rip offs of Western hits, but even of other Japanese songs! They were cheeky because there was no internet back then and they were separated from the Western world so nobody heard about them and their antics, but now it's all well documented. You can find videos on YT comparing their biggest hits to stuff they ripped off. I don't know how they can look at themselves in the mirror.
>>7847978I always assumed they based him off of Ivan Draco, even though Ivan is USSR.
>>7861210they probably don't care, george lucas doesn't care about plagarising his movies entirely
The thing is "video games" wasn't a serious thing. It wasn't taken as a serious art and all the majority of developpers ever did wa copy other media. They still do, just less blatantly.Back then nobody cared but now that the industry as a whole is worth billions, and now that "video games" is trying to pretend they're a legit art form on the same level as cinema, this kind of shit from the past surfaces to bite them in the ass.Don't take me wrong, I am a /vr/ poster and games were better before the "we serious art now" shit.
>>7847262I think the honorable thing to do would be for Capcom to permanently retire M. Bison from the series and anyone else who they didn't create fully on their own.
>>7862412Street Fighter VI's roster: 0 playable characters.
>>7862443They could make new characters. They did for SF3 and people love them now.
>>7862831 Were any of them really "original," per the mandate stipulated above? You don't need to bother answering.
>>7862859How is Ibuki not an original character?
>>7863254Do you KNOW how many ninja high school characters exist in manga and anime? She's a common trope.
>>7863364Everything is a "common trope" by now. I'm talking about characters who were blatantly ripped off design wise 100% off something else like OP's pic. Ibuki is totally unique looking.
>>7863364Generic doesn't have to mean borderline plagiarized.
>>7859826The story changes to a battle shonen later on and doesn't turn back.Oddly enough, other than the two girls who got raped and killed nobody EVER dies just like in One Piece and every villain turns good upon defeat.
What would fighting games be like without Hokuto no Ken and Jojo?
>>7849081Even though the PAL boxart was likely changed for legal reasons, I'd like to joke around that Euro kids would confuse the two
>>7863471Less fun. I'm fine with some ripping off, as long as they pit some kind of spin on things and don't copy a design wholesale.
>>7863405True -- but I was responding facetiously to the demand that any characters "not completely original" be retired. No Street Fighter character I can think of would meet that criterion -- which isn't to say that they aren't well-designed or haven't achieved iconic status. But SF has never been about naive ideas of originality -- it's about reference, pastiche, and humour. If you outlaw that in the interests of some theoretical ex-nihilo originality, you won't have any characters left.
>>7863547>No Street Fighter character I can think of would meet that criterionMost of them would. Again the point you're missing is 100% blatant copy and paste characters like Bison. Either Capcom should remove him or pay the original creator of Riki-Oh royalties.
>>7863617Isn't Kato older than Riki-oh?
>>7847369Tyson/Balrog and Washizaki/Bison is more of an inspiration.Lee/Fei Long is a homage.Fighter's History has female Ryu.
>>7863617Umm, did you read my post? I'm not missing anything. If you're just really hung up on the fact that the original dictator portrait is clearly referencing that particular Riki-Oh panel, fine (I'm sure the reference was intended to be recognized, in any event). But there is no copyright on mid-century military garb or anything else about the character's assets that wouldn't constitute fair use. Dictator, like the rest of the cast, is just an amalgam of common pop-cult archetypes.
>>7862831the only sf3 characters anyone likes are makoto, ibuki, and alex
>>7850208what a kickass cover >>7850731You would never finish trying to collect every movie and actor that kojima used for shit
>>7855515yeah basically, Japan had a lot of stupid blatant copying in their history that they'll deny until they're fucking dead. It's really funny because then they'll still shit on Korea for having shit like Taekwon V (aka blatant ripoff of Mazinger Z).
>>7849262flat tops and tank tops were not popular in WWII. Looks more like vietnam or 80s special forces or someshit. Even more likely "schwarzenegger lookalike #152" which was popular in japanese media at the time.
>>7863676>referencingIt looks traced, dude
>>7849116It only covers the first arc of the manga, hence it is least ridiculous part of Riki-OhEspecially when it ends with Riki finding out his dad is basically the Emperor of Mankind from 1000 years in the future come back to specifically get murdered by whichever of his two sons has fully harnessed their latent destructive abilities. Riki loses his first fight with him then learns to meditate from a ghost whale and cuts his dad's head off, who then tells him about the future while holding his own severed head for like three chapters.It's completely batshit. At least the prison arc is roughly grounded as a Hokuto no Ken style martial arts story.
>>7849301He only used those references for splash panels and shit. His actual character designs didn't look like that. That's more of a nice easter egg for fashionistas than a ripoff.
>>7847262That isn't unoriginally, that is a reference. A very different thing and loved by fans.
>>7859826The shock value is the best part.
>>7847265Based. Fuck Americans and Fuck Capcom USA.American Retards think "Hurrdurr Vega has the bullfighter because it sounds Spanish" but don't know that the name Vega isn't actually Spanish but it's not and they fail to grasp the astrological reference.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stars_in_astrology#Vega
>>7848973They both look like Kenshiro knock-offs.
>>7849160>Michael Jackson accepted but this bitch didn'tWho did she think she was?Holy shit.
>>7850123Tbf Yoko only ripped off a part of this song and then did something original with it(afaik at least, all I know is that it only sounds like Top Gun at the beginning).But with Guile's theme she just straight up ripped off "TRAVELERS" by Japanese Jazz-Fusion Band T-SQUARE. Many Capcom composers were obsessed with that song apparently because you can hear many music themes in their games sounding like that song. Like for example some of the songs in Area 88/U.N Squadron by Manami Matsumae sound a lot like that song.
>>7864043I always used to think Ken's theme was originally meant to be Guile's theme.
>>7864043>Area 88/U.N Squadron by Manami Matsumae This is really cool. Any other examples from TSQUARE?
>>7864043>Like for example some of the songs in Area 88/U.N Squadron by Manami Matsumae sound a lot like that song.Not really and I have studied that soundtrack for the arcade and snes versions extensively
>>7851160nigger how the fuck do you browse /vr/ and can't recognize a HL screenshot?
>>7851072not goldsrc but from an official map
>>7863781But it clearly isn't. It's redrawn. The proportions of the face are rather different.
>>7864043I think it speaks to T-Square's ubiquity in the music scene at the time. Fun fact -- T-Square members also composed for video games. The Arc the Lad series is scored by one of T-Square's founding members.
>>7863671>girl ryu before sakuraNah she is just a plain normal judo fighter, even Other Ryoko (SNK) had powers
>>7864546Are they based on a real person?
>>7863671>Fighter's History has female Ryu.No, Fighter's History has an homage to Ryoko Tani.
>>7847262Nice bait faggot
>>7864658>red dot flag with textStolen from SFII
Capcom's not alone in this, are they?
>>7863759>flat tops were not popular in WW2Do you think Araki cares?