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What's the appeal of the genre?
I tried Dragon Blaze today and I said to myself, I said: "Who was the target audience of these damn games?"
pic related.
I can't imagine spending hours grinding these insanely 'tism dodges. Can you? Did you? Are you?
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>>7690150
Who was the target audience of these damn games?"
it starts with a T
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>>7690150
>tas shit
retard
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>>7690176
>tas
get good.
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just gotta git gud
>>7690153
always on your mind and you can't let go
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>>7690150
>>7690150
>Psikyo caved in and adopted queer fucking bullets.
No wonder they declared bankruptcy shortly after.
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can't wait to play this on switch and PC
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>>7690150
>playing psikyo shit
yikes
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>>7690227
>can't wait to play this on switch and PC
PC release? what's the scoop
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Played Dragon Blaze alot, when it came out. If you check out the specific mechanics the game becomes alot of fun.
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>>7690239
a lot is two words. fy.
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>>7690240
English is not my native tongue, but thanks I guess.
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>>7690234
it's coming to steam too
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>>7690247
M2?
interesting
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>>7690150
>insanely 'tism dodges
Anon, the gif you posted is a meme in the shmup community, it's from some cheated youtube shitplay. You're not supposed to dodge stuff in Psykio games, you're supposed to learn and route, esp in the later stages/2nd loop.
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>>7690227
>we got this instead of a M2 port of the proper game
Kek, thank you Cave
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>>7690447
Who cares DoJ has two good ports and runs fine in mame. If anything DDP needs the M2 treatment and a rearranged soundtrack.
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>>7690150
>Who was the target audience of these damn games?
Japanese

>getting gud at shmups equals 'tism
found the morbidly obese mouth breather
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>>7690234
>>7690247
source
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>>7690509
>getting gud at shmups equals 'tism
You disagree?. What's your idea of got gud?
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>>7690224
Even more reason to dodge those bullets!
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My favorite Cave games are Espgaluda, Progear no Arashi and Mushihimesama. Thoughts?
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>>7690539
It depends on how deep the rabbit hole we are talking. But getting competent enough to clear a Shmup is not autism. That is unless your suggesting the entire male population of the nation of Japan in the late 80's early 90's to 00' suffers from autism.
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>>7690548
Why not Futari 1.0 with the music removed?
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>>7690651
>But getting competent enough to clear a Shmup is not autism
That bar is a bit low, don't you think?

>the entire male population of the nation of Japan in the late 80's early 90's to 00' suffers from autism.
if they didn't have it then, they certainly have it now
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>>7690548
I think ESP.ra.de is best, mainly based on aesthetics and the base mechanics, but I realize its not perfect. I also am a fellow cave enjoyer so I would rank the games as fallowed.

ESP Ra.De. > Ketsui > DoDonPachi DaiOuJou > Mushihimesama > Progear > DoDonPachi > Espgaluda > DonPachi > Deathsmiles > mushihime-san futari > Guwange > Espgaluda II > Dangun Feveron

* Typically I like the black labels arranged modes of many of these games more than their original release.

I haven't played enough of the other games like Ibara, Pink Sweets and Muchi Muchi Pork! for example to really rank them.
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>>7690689
>That bar is a bit low, don't you think?
No because I'm not autistic. But if there is a whole nation of Shmup enjoyers who they designed these games to appeal to that drove the Japanes industry in the late 80's to 00' then they clearly where not mainly designed with those non-autistic people in mind. I know its pedantry but that is my argument.

>they certainly have it now
>post a picture that was clearly made as a joke
that is quite the accusation. Perhaps your right, but considering your lack of understanding humor based on the clearly intentionally humorous photo you posted perhaps you are the one with tism.
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>>7690703
Why are DaiOuJou and Ketsui so highly revered among Cave fans?
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>>7690732
>No because I'm not autistic.
but your posts prove otherwise, care to explain?

>your lack of understanding humor based on the
lel the irony
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>>7690743
Multiple loops and good scoring
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More like Dragon Gays
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<<7690753
>>anon post "ha ha funny picture" as proof japan is autistic despite clearly being too autistic to understand humor.
>no u

>>7690743
>>7690757
>good scoring systems
this, and they are just fun to play.
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>>7690469
DDP runs perfectly in mame too.
I wouldnt call the 360 port good even though it's playable.
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>>7690841
>using MAME instead of FBNeo where applicable
big yikes
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>>7690743
Top notch presentation, good difficulty curve and very solid gameplay / scoring system
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>>7690847
Sup Mark, stop the shill for a sec'
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>>7690847
>more focused on playability and advanced features than accuracy.
this has to be bait.
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>>7690862
Do you know what is inaccurate in fbn compared to mame?
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>>7690886
that's the words of the developers.
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>>7690548
For me it's Fever SOS based on the music and catching freefalling discomen, followed by the DonPachi series and Progear because I like to enjoy some horizontal action every once in a while.
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>>7690896
Figures.
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>>7690808
>still taking the 'tism ''debate'' seriously
yep it's the Tism
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>>7690841
>I wouldnt call the 360 port good even though it's playable.
>mfw the 360 port takes like a full minute to load upon bootup
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<<7690954
>gets btfo'd several times
>too autistic to realize they have been btfo'd
KEK
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>>7690651
>That is unless your suggesting the entire male population of the nation of Japan in the late 80's early 90's to 00' suffers from autism.
>>7690732
>But if there is a whole nation of Shmup enjoyers who they designed these games to appeal to that drove the Japanes industry in the late 80's to 00' then they clearly where not mainly designed with those non-autistic people in mind. I know its pedantry but that is my argument.
Autism speaks.
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QUICK, /VR/!! THE GIANT ENEMY GUNSHIPS ARE ABOUT TO ATTACK EARTH!! NAME YOUR FIVE FAVORITE SHMUPS AND THREE FAVORITE SHMUP DEVELOPERS TO FIGHT THEM OFF!!
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CV1000B is coming to FB eventually
get fucking hype
I'll finally ditch that pos M*ME for good
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>>7691293
Cave, Toaplan & Irem, R-Type, ESP.Ra.de, & Dogyuun
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>>7691438
team shanghai alice shits on all three
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<<7691287
>i.i.i.i don't have autism t.t.t.the whole nation of Japan is autistic.
>see I.i.i posted a funny picture but didn't understand basic hummor
>a-a-and despite being BTFO'd several times I'm still giving (You)'s to the anon that is clearly mocking me!!!
>RRRRRREEEEEEEEEEEEEE
projection much?
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>>7691442
I like 2hu as well but I wouldn't say ZUN is a god.
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What's the first bullet hell game? How the fuck do I download these games, is there a how to guide for retards or have I been filtered
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>>7691453
how did you even find this board in the first place?
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>>7691464
I've been using websites since 1997 for game related stuff but, as you basically stated, I just cant keep up with online porn and fell behind in my 40s and am just now trying to find my stride after a nasty divorce. You got a kik messenger?
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>>7690703
>dfeveron in last place
bruh
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>>7691481
just download a recent mame romset it has all the games gramps
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>>7691474
I see. DDP is on an sd card I have full of emulators for my psp through Mame but it's sideways
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>>7691453
Google ShmupMAME, then google the ROMs for some of the more popular games, or google which of them got decent home console ports at some point and emulate those.
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>>7691483
Thank you, sounds like a start
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>>7691482
Sorry just don't personally like the disco aesthetic, and the ships bullets. All that busyness makes it too hard for me to fallow the bullets on screen. I'd much rather play 2hu or another Cave game with a less visually confusing art design. But even at last place its a good shmup.

>>7691481
>4chan
>1997
They are arcade games, your an adult figure it out. Just like how you found this site in 1997 on Usenet :^)
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>>7691453
just download touhou
no emulation, get them on moriyashrine or whatever
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>>7690210
OP's gif is tas, retarded cunt
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bump for shmups.
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>>7690232
>being a cavetranny
kek
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>>7691924
Not an excuse
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>>7692932
Post your Strikers 2Alls, poser
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>>7692942
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>>7692939
t. retarded cunt
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>>7692942
Lmao how will "jajaja" recover
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>>7692942
>>7693042
>>7692932
Imagine claiming to 2All Strikers 1945 trilogy, made by Psikyo in the 90s and also having trains and jarpigs live rent free in your head.


>>7691447
You definitely have autism and something worse too.
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do you guys like fantasy zone
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>>7693145
based sonicfox triggering shmupfags
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>>7691293
Truxton 2
Fever SOS
DoDonPachi
R-Type Leo
X Multiply

Irem
Cave
Toaplan
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>>7691442
>>7691451
This is a shmup thread actually. Galaga? Argus? Blood bros? Outzone? What do you know about real shmups?
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>>7693224
>R-Type Leo
nice choice
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>>7693238
I know you have to take estrogen and suck a lot of cocks to get recognized as a real shmuper.
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>>7693238
>tfw you want to like Out Zone but you get filtered by the first hundred feet of it until you get the weapon spread upgrade
It's like a twin stick shooter, but you only have one stick and both movement and shooting are mapped to it. Seems to get a lot more manageable once you have spread and can shoot at stuff without being in its line of fire.
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>>7690150
Play Raiden. It's fun until you die and lose all your power ups.
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>>7693247
Shmups draw me in when they have cool weapons and soundtracks and a nice overall feel. In R-Type Leo's case it's the green homing lasers and the blue reflecting shot, plus the first stage music is pretty cool. Same story with Truxton 2's first stage music and the blue autotargeting lasers or with X Multiply's first stage music and the damage immune tentacles your ship can grow.
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>>7692942
>>7693038
>>7693145
>tardo living rent free
the state of cavetrannies
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>>7693145
>my bud is now aware
>rics "bud"
Must be an efriend, relative, or figment of his imagination like the Strikers trilogy clears.

>>7693293
Outzone and Guardian Force, I recommend both
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>>7693369
>>7693247
how does scoring work in Leo anyway? Gotta use the charge pods more than shot ?
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>>7693429
I'm just glad to survive.
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>>7693504
it does start off pretty friendly but then cranks up the difficulty in the end a lot
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>>7693553
It's an awesome shooter that is highly regarded our community. But not really a traditional "R-type" if you are looking for slow, calculated puzzle like levels. For that I'd suggest Pulstar or Delta.

As Metal Slug co-designer Kazuma Kujo said: "[Leo] is quite innovative for an R-Type game, and it was well done for a shooter, but it doesn’t quite feel like an R-Type game."
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>>7690150
Hiding replays so no one can beat your scores!!!
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>>7693639
good, autists should figure things out for themselves
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>>7693642
But what if all my strats were copied off my Nihonjin friends' replays which are also hidden?
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>>7693238
>hating based touhou
it's way better than your literal who dadshit and among the best danmakus (bullet hells)
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>>7693732
>"it's way better than your literal who dadshit and among the best danmakus (bullet hells)"
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>>7690242
I think you did alright. Lots of people here need to find flaws in everyone else in order to justify their existence
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>>7693145
Remove him or will he remove himself? Let's see.

>>7693642
Half the fun is figuring out these games for yourself, strat hiding should be standard practice imo
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>>7690150
faggots
yes
yes
no, it's a big waste of time.
better play jrpgs while watching shmups streams I tell you
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>>7693882
>better play jrpgs while watching shmups streams I tell you
no need to do shmup homework just say you 2Alled Stroikers ez , meanwhilst stalk touhou players twatters and the Farm and post screenies of their shmup gaffs m8
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>>7693429
>how does scoring work in Leo anyway?
kill everything and survive without dying, you get bonuses at the end per extend. Probably some minor millking involved somewhere too? not sure
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>>7693739
lol

>>7693347
raiden dx > raiden 1
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>>7693145
who's this?
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>>7694536
18/f/japan
I like shooting game and daioujou players best.
And you?
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>>7694593
its not worth it
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>>7694593
Imagine the smell
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>>7690150
Reminder that Raiden 4 Mikado remix comes out on may 6th.
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>>7695247
>Mikado remix
it's literally nothing.jpg
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When will you manchilds get a job and take on adult responsibilities?
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>>7691368
>FB

isn't it just to play fightcade online with favela monkeys?
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Why is there such a dumb argument?
STGs are execution heavy games, if you don't like that don't play them
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>>7690469
>runs fine
>mame
lol
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>>7695980
runs fine in shmupmame
not reading that shite
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>>7695626
can't have lightning fast bullets and danmaku-tier bullet density, it's one or the other.

Only thing that might come close is Espgaluda red-mode.
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>>7694593
>>7694593
>18/f/japan
average shmup player desu
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>>7696025
unfun gimmicks
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>>7696025
Because they only made PERFECT shmups
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scores are just a waste of time, clears are all you need

Sent from my iPhone X
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>>7696241
then go back to belt scrollers or fighting games; shmups are a scoring genre first and foremost

>>7696025
Ikaruga and RSG have deep scoring systems that go over your head
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>playing auto-scrollers for survival
is there anything more boring and passive once you figure out a basic shitters' route?
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>>7696316
imo scoring happens naturally when you find a shmup you like to tinker with and enjoy replaying, problem is if the game is good you'll be low on the score ladder for a long time. fragile egos can't handle that.
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>>7696516
>problem is if the game is good you'll be low on the score ladder for a long time. fragile egos can't handle that.
So play a dead mode in a dead game and get the Western WR right quick bruv
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>>7696581
For me it's telling people I 2All the Strikers games.
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>>7696389
yes I'm a secondary too, shmups aren't my main genre and competition triggers my anxiety and illness

>>7696516
>>7696581
why would I score a genre that isn't my main?
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>>7696316

You gotta be able to clear it before you can move on to score anon, but yeah you should play for score after you git gud
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>>7695479
>STGs are execution heavy
This gay genre is only played by boomers and trannies who've fried their (male) brains with pills BECAUSE it's not mechanically demanding yet still allows you to LARP as a skilled player because of the flashing lights (RGB lights anyone?) and total obscurity of the genre. Shmup players don't even like video games. Can't tell you how many total fucking faggots I've seen on here who ONLY play shmups and VNs. That makes you a virgin, not an authority on gaming. Try winning a tournament. Oh, one caveat: you also have to try not shitting your bed sheets.
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if you don't play for score why play shmups at all?
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>>7696852
Deep
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>>7696816
Nice faggot essay you wrote here fag
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I was interested in R Type and started playing Delta, but it seems so memorisation heavy.
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>>7695980
>posts cps
>doj is PGM

sad.
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>>7696025
Radiant Silvergun is not half bad.
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reminder let's stay on topic
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for me it's Shitta
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>>7696852
fun
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>>7697213
Mahou Daisakusen? I just recently picked up the PS4 version of this game and was curious if anyone can point me to a guide or does any know what the stats for each ship is? Speed, main shot damage, sub weapon shot damage, other hidden stats. I searched quite a bit and couldn't find hardly anything about the core mechanics of the game.

Thanks!
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>>7697217
shitclears are fun when you're new, or need a break from your main games
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>>7697218
https://shmups.wiki/library/Mahou_Daisakusen
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>>7697124
Both a good desu. Poohoo in the other hand...
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>>7697217
But scoring is fun if the system clicks with your tastes
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>>7697260
>hating based touhou
touhou is peak shmups tbqh
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>>7697219
shitclears are the only thing to even look forward to when you're new
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>>7697348
More peak crap.
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>>7697361
Peak crap is Cave and Yagawa
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>>7697348
>touhou is peak shmups tbqh
(you) lost /v/ ?

>>7697124
Game Play density matters

>>7697219
shitclears are not just poorly optimized clears but also below your skill level, or just easy in general. ofc new players are only capable of shitclears for a while, until they get good and actually learn a couple games proper
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>Anon...this isn't a show.
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>>7697361
>innovative patterns and mechanics
>cool-looking patterns instead of the mess that is cave
>awesome music
yeah I'm thinking touhou is based
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Here comes the 2poo Defense Force trannies, shan't be giving you (You)s, faggots
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>>7697407
>innovative
>same slow patterns for 25 years
lol
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Bump
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>>7697428
wut u play bruv?
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Rayforce > Raystorm > Raycrisis

this is right
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>>7697545
Xenogears
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>>7697607
based
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>>7697545
/fa/ as fuck
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>>7697545
>masquerade violation
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>>7696852
same reason you might play any video game without chopping your dick off and speedrunning it
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>>7690753
>your posts prove otherwise
he had just said that getting competent enough to clear a shmup isn't autism, and you said that was "a low bar" as if keeping the bar low wasn't his entire point
>>7690757
You seem to be intent on calling random people autistic seemingly because you disagree on what games you enjoy, in which case why would you even care to discuss it at all? Sounds like you're the autist self-consciously flaunting your anecdotal taste for internet validation to me
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>>7691512
This site was made in late 2003 but it's not like anyone cares to look things up themselves anymore apparently
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>>7690150
Touhou was my introduction to shmups, it has iconic characters that get tons of porn, tons of lore that keeps you wanting to get to the endings, hype music, etc.
By getting into Touhou you feel like you're getting into something big, you feel like you're being rewarded, it's not just about the challenging gameplay but an array of other benefits.
After playing a dozen of other shmups, Touhou is still my favorite franchise of the genre, some other games can have technically better systems, but they never made me want to get really good, they never left me craving for more.
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>2poo good because: tons of porn, tons of lore keeps me playing and craving more
>hype music
> it's not just about the challenging gameplay but an array of other benefits
>''touhou benefits''
yes of course.


>>7697428
this prediction came true
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>>7697793
It was a reference to Eternal September
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>>7697830
>2poo good because: tons of porn
the fact that it was the first argument is really funny
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>>7697830
>>7697853
I don't care about pretending to be a purist of the genre, lack of reward is a genuine point, it's just generic ships against generic alien invasions or generic warfare and even when you win you still feel like you lose because a new loop starts but it's even more tryhard now, I enjoy porn, yes I'm genuine about it, but I also enjoy story and characters so enjoying Touhou not just about the porn, Touhou may have flying girls but it unironically has more soul than traditional shmups
>shut up this ship with cool design blowing up mechas is way more original than uguu girls
No it's not, they look original for today because nobody is doing it anymore but they were generic as fuck even back in the 90s, Touhou only looks generic if you have alergy against anime girls but its charm goes beyond just being about anime girls, the worldbuilding and other nuances are a classier experience than going oonga boonga for months of your life just for 1 game about spaceships with spiky designs, at that point you should probably learn a new instrument or a new language.
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>>7697869
>nooooo you can't dislike generic hentai, slow-ass patterns and recycled piano tunes!!! nooooooooo!!!!!!!!1
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>>7697545
clp looking sharp as fuck holy shit
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>>7697806
>hype music
lmao, can we stop with the "touhou music is good" meme?
sure some fan arranges are good, but the music in the actual games is nauseating
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@7697869
Nice little essay, asstwat. Not reading that shit and still not giving you a (You).
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>>7697852
That was regarding the constant influx of new Usenet users, 4chan wouldn't exist for another six years. What a terribly executed reference
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>>7697949
Not him, but it's really hilarious how newfags like yourself have the concept of replying so backwards, like your response doesn't count as a response because you're not directly quoting them with 4chan formatting, and opt for the equally cancerous YouTube and Twitter quote formatting, even though you're still replying and tacitly conceding

In your mind you've already won, which is what made you lose just now. Failure
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@7697983
I'm posting on /shmupg/ since 2016 while you just discovered the thread to defend MUH TOUHOU PORN. Chop you dick off already.
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>>7698031
That's nice; I've been here since the board was made in 2013, I only played Imperishable Night casually and I honestly couldn't care less about magical girl hentai.
>chop your dick off already
>mfw you're so mad you can't read the first two words in the post you're responding to
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>>7697949
>forgotten worlds pic
sweet art. take not touhou players, what anime could be like if you were all gassed
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>>7698081
Guess what? Osamu Tezuka's large anime eye styling has inspired numerous artists to this day and is based on American rubber hose cartoons with their exaggerated and expressive faces
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>>7696956
if something as basic as CPS isn't running at the correct speed then you know PGM sure the fuck isn't
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>>7697959
>idiot thinks I was saying 4chan started in 1997
>missing the clear sarcasm
>missing the reference to Eternal September
>board culture used to frown on spoon-feeding
>newfaggots think this should be encouraged hence a subversion of the boards "netiquette"
facepalm I honestly hope your just really autistic.
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>>7690150
The same turbo autism of competitive games but in singleplayer form.
Honing a skill over and over but you can't flex that skill over anyone, it feels like a waste of time.
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>>7698935
>but you can't flex that skill over anyone
That's why leaderboards exist my man
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>>7698935
Shmups are for stoic flexing. You wouldn't get it
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>>7698965
>>7698935
>>7698979
>>7696852
Interesting topic.
I speedrun for the competitive itch. Shmups I play to chill, R type Leo is good fun that way, not too hard but not too easy.
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>>7698935
>ego on an anonymous image board
when will you learn?
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>>7698991
What's a good action game to run?
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>>7699008
Metal Slug X
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>>7690150
>I can't imagine spending hours grinding these insanely 'tism dodges.
>picrel is an stream pattern tased by a retard
what did he mean by this
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>>7699207
Copying a tas is autistic desu
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>>7699207
2poo makes you do those dodges
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>>7700857
yeah but at speed x0.1
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Any recs for games with a similar look of Thunder Force V? I love that weird early 3D style.
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>>7700959
I don't even think it's 3D, just 3D rendered sprites.
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Is Cozmic Collection worth getting just for G-Darius? I already have Burst Chroniclesaviours
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>>7701050
no clue but HD would be nice for sure
although you can run G-Darius in mame decently now, ver 2.0 is great
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Poohoo sucks, deal wiz it faggots
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>>7701248
>no arguments
cringe
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>>7701250
touhou is the shovelware of shmups.
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>>7701250
No need for arguments, thats fax
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>>7697251
That site is made by a tranny, don't use it.
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>>7701369
That tranny made what Ricky dreamed of for so long : doing something actually useful for the community... Ric BTFO
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>>7701369
the shmup info is useful, not much Mahou Daisakusen info on the internet -- but what kinda tranny we talking here?
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>>7701404
https://twitter.com/CHARLENEMAXIMUM

goes by "Queen Charlene" also one of the devs of Mechanical Star Astra. He should be killed.
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>>7701465
alright you win.
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>>7701465
>He should be killed.
SHE should be killed, transphobe
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>>7701549
Fuck you.
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>>7701549
>>7701465
jej

>>7701268
>>7701248
>>7701250
explain the rivalry between touhou and shmups ?
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Reminder that Charlene is jacked and 6'6 and would fuck both Cee and Ric in a fight. At the same time.
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>>7701686
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>>7701721
Nice selfie. Wot u play
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>>7701465
>>7701549
>>7701662
>>7701686
>/fit/ twink male in drag
>vs
>fat balding man obsessed with you calling them a woman
but face facts even Shmupers trannies are more alpha then Sneed Runners.
>Washington state
Seattle is fucked up right now senpai.

can we get back on topic please

>>7701662
It non existent, but back in the day there was a feud in the japanes community iirc.
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>>7700959
R Type Delta, G Darius, and Einhander, no question
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>>7701662
>explain the rivalry between touhou and shmups ?
people are salty because all shmups are dead besides touhou (because it's better)
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>>7701768
And it's better because of porn. Or so said the 2hu defense force. Wow!
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>>7701782
when I'm done with my touhou homework, I can fap to some hentai :)
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I just don't like touhou because its fans are obnoxious waifu having types. I also hate shmups though. Most boring genre in the world. I'd rather play a golf game before Galaga rip off number 698.
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>>7701790
Try dodonpachi
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>>7701662
Touhou faggots only care about the fanservice and not the games. I think the games are fine, but they're not arcade quality.
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>>7701730
Sky Adventure
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what shmups need is some story modes and cooler characters to relate to
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>>7701997
Most shmups have stories you know.
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>>7702017
That's why they need story modes
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>>7701997
play zeroranger
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Jap shmups including Cave games are on sale in Steam right now!
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>>7702080
>touhou not on sale
don't care desu
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>>7702080
Thank you sir
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Perfect opportunity to sick grab Game Tengoku (good dad game with cute characters) or Psyvariar (bullet hell shooter 10x better than most cave games, it must be said).
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>>7698714
Eternal September was 1993 though. I appreciate the reference but you fucked up the execution so thats why everybody is confused. Although this place is full of newfags so they probably still would be confused.
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I can't wrap my head around Gradius' powerup systems, I tried 5 and got filtered
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>>7702883
How? Do you have a bird brain?
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>>7697607
nice. love xenogears, xenosaga was meh. i think it was the characters
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>>7702527
IMO the best in the series is Psyvariar Revision. Best levels and lots of branching paths to give the game variety and depth. Psyvariar 2 is good but the lack of paths and some really short levels make it feel rushed by comparison.

Technically the Delta arrange might be tied for best because it's a more souped up Revision and has that awesome mech ship to control too.
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>>7702446
Already have Psyvariar Delta and Revision on PS2.
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Right now I'm trying to 1-life complete Gradius[PC-Engine version](it will also be the first time I finish the game). I was suffering against those moai heads yesterday, but now I'm able to get to stage 4(I assume every time you defeat that big ship, you pass a stage). This game is really unforgiving, depending on where you die, that is pretty much game over since you don't have any option anymore. Because of that, I decide to go for 1 life complete at once since dying once is the same as game over, imo.
I'm loving this game, btw. I play it between some games or between study session. I'm not using save state to train some areas, as some people seems to do, because I'm used to play games on arcade and there is no save state there, training in some area means getting to that area again(which also makes me get even better in the earlier areas).
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>>7703152
Yeah, that's called Gradius syndrome. They're great games, but if you die you're fucked.
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>>7703202
>Gradius syndrome
I guess this is so normal that they even have a term for it. heh
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>>7703152
>dying once is the same as game over, imo.
nah recovering is possible in most places and a lot more fun than just giving up when you die.
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>>7703243
Perhaps, but because I want to do the 1-life complete thing, I stop playing as soon as I die. After that, I replay it without caring and see how I'd recover in some situations.
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I stupidly got an xbox for ninja gaiden, now I need more games for it.
What STGs on xbox would you recommend?
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>>7703303
There's some backwards compatible 360 games too I saw in the store
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>>7703273
I don't think there's any shoot 'em ups for the original xbox...
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>>7703273
halo 2
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>>7704057
Save scumming isn't the same thing as using save state practice to learn a game. No wonder you didn't enjoy it.
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>>7701371
>useful
>contributed by jarpigs, posers, and novice players
LMAO, enjoy your useful info
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>>7703250
Are you nihonjin, perchance?
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>>7704105
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>>7703273
As bad as Sigma 2 is, I honestly prefer Sigma 1 over Ninja Gaiden Black.
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>>7702527
>Is Psyvariar 2 the best in the serie?
the tlb is the best boss battle in any shmup ever but revision is better over all.
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>>7704291
>the tlb is the best boss battle in any shmup ever but revision is better over all.
what makes it good? what makes boss battles in shmups good anyway? I never thought of that
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>>7704105
shippu guide has been written by the WR holder

it's not like you care about these games anyway
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oh and jarpigs and novices who actually play shmups > shmups "players" who lie about clears and play discord all day
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>>7704470
lmao we all know who the second one refers to
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>>7704471
>>7704470
No we dont. You've been exposed as a non player. Post your shmup achievements if you disagree.
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>>7704338
>what makes it good?
its completely epic
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>>7697545
Is that moot, the creator of 9gag?
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>>7704906
stfu Ric. keep it silent like the last few weeks.
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>- wiki is good
>- b-but nonplayers and jarpigs wrote it
>- well you got this guide written by a WR holder
>- u-ur a nonplayer hurr durr post you're scoars

kek the absolute STATE of your brain retardo, post your Strikers clears first you fucking lying ass greasy spic manlet jajaja
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>>7697545
>juggling interests me
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>>7705265
>"stfu Ric. keep it silent like the last few weeks."
>>7705250
>"you fucking lying ass greasy spic"
<-- (you)

>>7704463
ako is good but he's not the norm, let's be real.
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>>7705008
Yes, back when he was making facebook.
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>>7705265
>Strikers clears
Are Strikers games hard?
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>>7705289
>let's be real.
>tfw ricky pretends he can't post here.

>>7705326
yes they are. the loops are pretty crazy.
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>>7704110
No, why?
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>>7705342
>search "lets be real" on guscord
>every usage is ricky
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just here for my monthly visit to declare that it's hilarious how cavefags can't stop screeching at dad shmuppers and 2hufags
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>>7705747
this except 2poo niggers are fags and deserve it
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for me, it's copes and delusions
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>>7706167
definitely this.
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>>7705347
You're very patient and I respect that
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>>7697124
>dude having a billion shots without rhyme or reason on the screen obfuscating every detail of the game every second mean its better lmao
Quality =/= quantity.
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>>7706684
>without rhyme or reason
>being this much of a pattern-recognitionlet
yikes!
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>>7706723
>Boss shoots a bunch of shit at you
>Oh I guess I'll just stick to the bottom of the screen and tiptoe around it
Galaxian has more riveting gameplay.
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>>7697124
Both are great, though
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>>7706771
Both horizontal and vertical shmups are good.
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>>7706771
I'm the one you replied above and I also love horizontal shmups. I said that as I replay Gradius series again.
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Which cave games have the least rng?
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>>7706771
don't talk shit about gradius gaiden m8
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go play Viewpoint on neo geo.

so rewarding
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What makes Gradius so good? Haven't played it but you lads love the series
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>>7707390
no point talking about it, just go play and see
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>>7705289
is that a gif of Sam?
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>>7707870
flase flag akagi post.

behave yourself samuel i know what youre up to.
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Tell us more boring theories about soft and how he hurt you instead of getting those Strikers 2 alls you claim.
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>>7706771
horis have better level design and gameplay so they are better
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what's everyone playing?
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>>7708635
playing?
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>>7708635
Not sure what to play but I want to try this Strikers 2ALL I keep hearing about
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>>7705289
>let's be real
as real as your strikers clear?
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>>7709026
>as real as your strikers clear?
OOF
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>POST THE 2ALL!!
Not so fast, you realize how pointless this is?

>>7707870
>is that a gif of Sam?
actually akagi looks more like pic related.

>>7706659
>cumpile based
anon I....
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>>7708635
shikigami no shiro 2 (pc version), the best shooter them up
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>>7708635
touhou 6
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My pension check came in today, time to go for a new PB!!
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What are some other STGs in the vein of axelay?
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>>7710223
In the vein of complete shit? 2hu fits the bill.
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Can you pay rent with highscores? Can you buy food, qualify for a better job with your shmup skills?
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>>7708635
Cotton 2
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>>7709660
Dariusly based
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>>7710254
kek
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>>7708635
R-type Final II
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>>7710501
Why do you pretend to care? Leisure is leisure, nobody is forcing you to play shmups
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>>7710582
>pretend
You have no idea what kind of autism you're dealing with.
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>>7710657
Anon has a point, there is a breed of autistic incels on the channels and chan's who read way too much Jordan Peterson and think that encouraging gamers to be "alpha" and larping as alphas despite being Epsilons irl will fix the world. So instead of fixing there own lives they shitpost on /v/ and /vr/ encouraged by cripto-leftist fedposting operatives on discord and reddit.
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>>7708635
Got to the final boss of Space Megaforce and died on my first try after getting the 1cc a few years ago. Such a banger of a SNES game technically.
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>>7710582
Nobody cares. Nobody cared when these games were knew 30 years ago and no one cares now.
No one will ever care about your virtual accomplishments. Meanwhile your lack of education and your age piles up, you have the mind of a child but will be competing with old men your age with a laundry list of employment qualifications
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>>7711517
As long as I have my welfare or parents around that won't affect.

>>7710678
If you want to be alpha I better read Icycalms material imo. JP gives normie advice, it won't make you get bitches or become an elite achiever at your gaming craft.
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>>7710582
theres legit westies right now actively proudly throwing away all education and work to play hsmups 24 7 on welfare being egged on by other shmuptards

>>7711517
>you have the mind of a child
if only you knew how bad things really are.
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>>7710678
Agree. We need to hide self-improvement strategies. gaming communities become threatening if the good players become good people.
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>>7708635
why would you play shmups when you can call touhoutrannies and cavepedos perverts
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Is it possible for a new player to start and learn Battle Garegga?
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>>7710501
Grown men with responsibilities are capable of deciding what they want to waste their time on, be it a cigarette or masturbating or jogging or posting critical comments on 4chan. You didnt even list a lot of goals, get food and work on improving your employment can be done without consuming every hour of your day >>7711517 stop worrying so much about what other people think about you
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>>7712332
yes, best game ever
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>>7711517
>Nobody cares
>Meanwhile your lack of education and your age piles up, you have the mind of a child but will be competing with old men your age with a laundry list of employment qualifications
You seem to care quite a bit. You also seem to be projecting your own insecurities as you obviously have no way of knowing what qualifications I even have, leaving you with "informed guesses" that you have attained through your personal life experiences
>>7711858
You're complaining about welfare sponges, which has nothing to do with shmups and is only tangentially related to the people that play them
>>7711934
Clean your room pseud
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>>7714847
>You're complaining about welfare sponges, which has nothing to do with shmups

Unfortnately it does.
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>>7690150
I'm finna record tas video of lots of shmups showing off impossible doging and not disclose its a tas just to piss off discord shmuptrannys.
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>>7715258
>I'm going to make shmup TAS videos just to piss myself off
huh? alright.
Make a couple Strikers 2-ALLs for our buddy ric thanks
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>>7715452
You will never be a woman
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>>7715460
You will never be a woman
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>>7715463
>nooo you can*t post le green frog I dont like it reeee

imagine being this triggered by a picture on the internet
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>>7715470
You will never be a woman
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>>7715473
seethe
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>>7715478
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who /gladtoseebackofricky/ here?
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>>7715493
seethe
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>>7712332
>new player to start and learn Battle Garegga
With the M2 port, especially if you turn on colored bullets in arranged mode.

>>7715258
>>7715262
>>7715460
>>7715470
>>7715478
>>7716631
>>7717295
>discord reddiotrs
>or useful idiots
wtf is wrong with (You) faggots?
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>>7717338
>everyone I dislike is a redditor

seethe and take your meds.
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Finally played Battle Garegga(on Mame). What a game. Now time to train for 1cc.
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>>7717473
Played it yesterday for the first time myself. Really fun.

Apparently the difficulty is dynamic, so a 1cc will be quite a challenge. Unless you can manipulate difficulty to your favor, I guess. I don't know if that can be done without dying though.
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>>7717523
Yes, I had read about it and I assume dying is required since as soon as you get stronger to pass some part(or boss), the difficulty you just keep increasing until you die.
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>>7717523
Also, I can accept the challenge. I got to 1 life complete Gradius by trying once a day. I don't liketo force myself to 1cc those games, I like to take my time enjoying(and dying kek).
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>>7717523
I'm tempted to pick up the M2 port because I really enjoy the training modes in ESP.Ra.De and Ketsui
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>>7717606
On Normal?
Try R typer difficulty. Then there's hidden difficulties after...huge difference
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>>7717275
but he is gone
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>>7715157
>Government financial aid
>Video game
No, it doesn't. It is only ~tangentially~ related to the people that play them.
You are no longer discussing the games, you are discussing the people that play them. You may as well be complaining about alcoholics or gang bangers, for example.

>>7717338
Attention whoring, conceited self righteousness, ignoring internet culture progression for "muh seekrit club identity". In a word, cancer
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for me it's dodonpachi daioujou black label for xbox 360
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>>7718080
>can't talk about athletes in a sports thread, only talk about the ball, the field and the rules
>can't talk about actors in a movie thread, only talk about the set, the camera and the script
70 IQ mulatto

>>7718112
rather play the PS2 ver of Dai-ou-jou
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>>7690150
Because they are addictive and it feels good seeing all the dots on screen and squeezing my ship through them.
>>7690153
Ts weren't really a thing when these games were popular. They would bitch about the difficulty
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who's your favorite taxpayer funded cyber athlete? for me it's the chav
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Whats your favorite shooters from each dev anons?

I'll Start
>Taito
Darius Gaiden
>G.Rev
Border Down
>Cave
ESP.Ra.de
>Toaplan
Batsugun
>Treasure
Radiant Silvergun
>Raizing
Battle Garegga
>Seibu Kaihatsu
Raiden Fighters
>Hudson
Rayforce
>Irem
R-type
>Psikyo
Sengoku Blade
>Compile
Spriggan
>Konami
Star Parodier
>Team Shanghai Alice
Perfect Cherry Blossom
>Capcom
19XX: The War Against Destiny (feel free to disagree but Progear doesn't count imho because it's really Cave)


>>7718170
>doesn't honestly talk about shmups in a shmups thread
>post reddit comics instead
cancer
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Close to 5 million in Rayforce wonderin where do you all post your scores? do shmups have a speedrun.com type of website?
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Mark MSX is actually pre handsome no homo
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>>7718275
>hudson
>rayforce
I thought Taito made the Ray games
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>>7718446
restartsyndrome .com
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>>7718275
>Whats your favorite mass shooters
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>>7718446
aim for a World Record then you can be featured here https://shmups.wiki/library/STG_Hall_of_Records
>>7718471
careful , that one is influenced by a deceptive player
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lmfao
Unless it has a replay it doesn't count
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>>7718170
>guise steroid abuse is bad guise
>guise PA abuse is bad guise
You're not talking about the sport or the art any longer, you're talking about individuals and the choices they make which is ultimately inconsequential to filmmaking or sports itself. You were so close to getting the point, but I guess when all you're aware of is gossip, that's all you'll have to offer...
nice wojak vore folder
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>>7718568
shmups?
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>tfw stopped being a shmup tranny 6 months ago
>tfw deadlift went up 105 pounds
>bench press went up 60
>squat 80
>reached 10dan in IIDX
>never been happier
Why the FUCK are you still loading save states every day? At least play some games that take skill lads....
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>>7718573
>the virgin shmup only faggot
>the chad connoisseur of every genre
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>>7718573
Been playing shmups for a long time and never used save states.
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>>7718594
I got a trillion billion in Dragster for atari
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>>7718170
>>can't talk about athletes in a sports thread, only talk about the ball, the field and the rules
players are interesting to talk about and their life choice and mistakes can certainly affect their gaming, just look at Yace (rip)
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>>7718616
If you want to gossip about people go to kiwifarms you faggot
Talk about STGs
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>>7718617
You shouldnt have to go to kiwifarms to learn that the most known western shmup player (Gus) fucks dogs and worships school shooters
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>>7718631
Absurdly based
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>>7718634
Gus is on disability for being cyber-bullied. Not something to joke about.

>>7718616
I wouldn't compare shmups to sports... they're more like escapist puzzle games.
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>>7718663
>living off a corrupt nations wealth while getting nonstop STG WRs
Like I said, BASED
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>>7718685
>dude i improved the counterstop!
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>>7718691
You see it is cringe at first.
But he keeps grinding Mushi so much it wraps around to becoming based
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>>7718569
Yes, that logic extends to shmups. Gossip all you want, just understand how it has nothing to do with the actual games themselves
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>>7718685
>>7718691
a console port of a game no one plays.
and anyone who counterstopped it has the WR. Gus spinning his wheels, going nowhere for 10 years lol
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>>7718718
>Gus spinning his wheels, going nowhere for 10 years lol
least he doesn't lie about his achievements like you know who...
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>>7718458
>handsome
>married
>has kids
What the fuck is he doing playing shmups?
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>>7718735
He's someone I pointed out here >>7718574
He said he enjoys fighting games and other arcade genres.
Being ONLY into shmups is what makes peoples brain rot and in worse case scenario you become like tardo
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>>7718739
>He said he enjoys fighting games and other arcade genres.
he also has a life outside gaming too...

>Being ONLY into shmups is what makes peoples brain rot and in worse case scenario you become like tardo
being only into --video games-- is the bigger problem. Having other interests and goals will smooth that out even if you only play one genre (and no consuming movies and jpop isn't enough)
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>>7718767
>he also has a life outside gaming too...
You mean his youtube and patreon!!
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>>7718767
Being into anything obsessively is harmful, whether it be painting, videogames, etc
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>>7718460
I'm retarded. I got the list of developers from shmups.system11 and googled to try to mach devs to games I liked but didn't know who developed them. I also said Star Parodier was Konami.
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>>7718735
>handsome
>married
>has kids
>What the fuck is he doing playing shmups?
being a Chad
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>>7718787
I too watched Soul by Disney/Pixar™
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Pretty funny how my DOJ route works in Galuda 2 aye go figure. but listen guys how do I delay my hyper to increase tick milk pointing fuck asshole chaining multiplier for my score shit in based Cavedonpach game? I need to make the number go up and be BIG you know? That's what keeps me up at night.

This is what my brain thinks about 24/7
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>>7718813
sharpie in pooper
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>>7718818
>>7718739
I'm not like Mark.

I play bullet hells because they keep me constantly busy so I don't think about how empty my life is and what I should be doing.
Any other genre has downtime, and downtime means reality creeps back and haunts me. I need pure escapism and only bullet hells in their hardest mode block real life sufficiently. It would be better for me to grind mmorpgs all day but the brain in my head is only fully tricked by HARD-FAST-DENSE-THICK danmaku.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JWlqe-3q-eI
SOUL
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>>7718825
If that's the case, maybe you should at least diversify your hobbies. Maybe learn an instrument.
Do you have frequent dreams where you're being chased, perchance?
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>>7718739
There was a story that he got btfo'ed in trying to become eceleb in fg community because they're too smart to fell in that shit. Hence he moved his goal to shmups community and succeed. Guess why
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>>7718838
I don't like music enough to do that.
I know what I should be doing but I avoid it because it's difficult, it means taking on responsibility and I know from past experience I can get hurt. I'm safe at home in my undies grinding my game, thank you very much
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>>7718850
>There was a narrative ric was trying to push but it got btfo like all his other narratives
Oh i c
ty
waiting for his Strikers 2-Alls even now
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>>7718860
I'm sorry to hear that.
Failure is a part of life. If you're unwilling to fail, you're hardly living.
https://youtu.be/a6tvsqZwRHo
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>>7718860
Get into weight lifting lad. You don't even need to leave the house to do it if you buy a barbell and some plates.
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>>7718875
>>7718878
None of those things will fix a wastrel, just stop, you're wasting your time. Some people are better off NEET.
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>>7718884
I don't give a shit. You're only a failure once you've given up
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>>7718884
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BiM8mrhqDQo
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>>7718072
>but he is gone
He'll be back with another scheme, wait and see.
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for me, it's playing shmups and having sex with women.
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>>7710223
Life Force
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>>7712332
It's a hard game, but if really like it, you can do it. Remember that playing garegga is pretty different from your average shooter.
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>>7717360
They are.
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>>7717523
>Apparently the difficulty is dynamic

Yes and everything raises the difficulty, if you shoot, it raises, if you pick up any items, it raises and so on. Only dying lowers the difficulty, so timing your 1ups with a suicide is a must. Also do not pick up any more power ups and bombs than you need to.
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>>7718112
It's a shitty port.
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>>7718864
move dude, he is gone just like perikles
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What's the deal with Strikers 2-all? Why is it a meme?
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I want to play Ibara but the rank system sounds annoying. Is it that bad?
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>>7719237
>>7719320
Why is it so hard for people to accept that the rank raping you in YGW games is complete bullshit, and has no excuse to exist? You literally cannot no-miss any of the games he programmed.
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>>7719329
Anything you can recommend that has a similar style of YGW but not shit gameplay?
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>>7719317
Strikers 1945 trilogy was made by Psikyo in the '90s. 2-Alling all three games is quite the challenge.
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>>7719329
>why can't I copy a no-miss replay??
No clue, have you tried scoring YGW games instead?
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>have to time pickups otherwise your score is lower lole
Trash
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>>7719329
I think it make a fun gameplay mechanic.
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>>7719320
Just play it like you would play Garegga.
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>>7719329
>You literally cannot no-miss any of the games he programmed.

Yes you can, but you don't want to power up and you don't want to kill anything except the necessary enemies.
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New touhou is out lads, time for some fun
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>>7719539
Im waiting for the translation patch
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>>7719285
yeah sure, he's totally not been posting in this very thread for the last few days, and totally not the reason why the e-celeb gossiping took over. I believe you
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>mfw Charlene posting his Psikyo 1-4 PBs again
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>my body is beautiful! Want to take a look?
What did she mean by this?
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>>7719864
the chad 1-4 flails vs. the virgin imaginary 2-ALLs
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>>7719864
>his
hmmm, sweetie...
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>>7720081
>>7719927
>>7719572
What shmups are you currently playing? Be honest
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>>7719874
>Koh and Roger: "NO!"
What did the boys mean by this?
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>>7720136
touhou 18 of course
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>>7720136
I was playing Ketsui and GG Aleste II last night. I'm procrastinating from work atm.
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>>7720151
You get a pass

>>7720147
Someone shoot this asshole
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>>7719864
He also made a thread in EOJs site showing off his DFK novice runs.
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>>7720136
The weak virgin spic NEET fears the strong minded american Chadlene with the huge dong
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>more gossips
I-I s-swear I'm not Ric... 100% amigo...
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>>7720257
Expanding his brand. Charlene joins niche communities like retro shmups, does bare minimum playing for appearances, socializes, streams , links social media...next releases some SHITE product (game?) And has instant customers (pity purchases). Do this in multiple communities, expand your brand

>>7719927
Let it go. Or better yet go play Strikers 1945 yourself and get a 2ALL.

>>7719329
Not so fast. Don't jump to conclusions before giving YGW games a chance.
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>>7720293
Sure thing slicky ricky
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>>7720293
>Let it go.
Ah, the good old Perikles trick.

Btw, wot u play as you're totally not Ric.
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Ric, more commonly known as "the retard":
manlet
greasy
skinny fat
smoll peepee
poor & NEET
fakes the clears
shit scoares
wants to fit in but is rejected by all
claims to be permarangedbanned on 4chin while he posts 24/7
BTFO by BIL and Softdrink (among others)
streams jarpigs (plays jarpigs)
useless for the shmup community
inferior to Kraut as Cee's sidekick
banned everywhere
LARP as various trannies to sneak in
poor & smells bad (gyppo)
virgin

CHADlene:
tall & ripped
carries a huge schlong
popular
proactive & productive
makes money from videogames
opens the long overdue shmup wiki
useful for the shmup community
plays for fun and is confident about it
plays based fighting games as well
rich
has sex
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>>7720549
>carries a huge schlong
proof?
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>>7720557
Subscribe to the onlyfans sweety. It's worth it.
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>>7720549
I have no idea who are those two. Sometimes I even wonder why I try to post in general threads, it always becomes a celebrity praise/hate thread and less about what the general should be.
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>>7720279
rent free
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>>7720579
They are posted by people who btfo by the jarpig slayer, even the guy already long gone but the scars is too deep to be healed lmao

>less about what the general should be
Won't happen. It will end up with progress and people here are paranoid with doxx, because the community is too small we can spot who is who.
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>>7720549
based
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>>7720726
>who btfo by the almighty jarpig slayer

>it's just games brah
*deletes replays*
*deletes channel*
*disappears from discord*
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>>7720726
You got kicked the fuck out of the discord you shilled for during MONTHS on /vr/. By Softdrink. LOL
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Is Cave really that good? Every game of theirs seems to have some major flaw or multiple flaws that make me not take it seriously
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>>7720807
>You
Let it go
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>>7720790
>*deletes replays*
he made it private

>*deletes channel*
his twitch still up

>>7720807
>kicked
he left by his own, not kicked
I can understand the reason, gus is too soft to everyone

putting lies in facts, I know your narrative is to kill the jarpig slayer existence, keep going lmao
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>>7721572
they are good games, or at least many of them are. It depends on how 'seriously' you take them. For most of them they are well-designed for survival 1cc's, and a few of them are pretty good for simple scoring as well.

>>7721610
>he
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>>7721572
Let's stay on topic or post those 2Alls you claim.
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>>7721696
When did I ever claim 2-alls? You're thinking of someone else
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>>7721701
It's just games, ric
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>>7721713
I'm not ric dummy
For a start I actually play shmups luhmow
And I'm not an insane spaniard
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>>7721716
So why would you make a stupid distraction post in the middle of an important discussion? Happens like clockwork and isn't fooling anyone.
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>>7721761
???
I just woke up and wanted to ask about Cave
Are you actually seething someone is discussing shmups in the shmup thread
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lmao post your Strikers 2Alls or go back to your Shmupmonkey containment cord and rant about Soft being deceptive and mean to you.
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>>7721779
who are you talking to anon
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>>7690153
TAS wasn’t a thing back then
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It's just games brah
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>>7721781
Ignore Strikers2all-kun, he is mentally ill and obsessed with a person that shamed him for playing RPGs, so now he can't stop posting about him here on /vr/ and seeing him everywhere.
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>>7691512
Based illiterate retard
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>>7721810
Question for ric, you claim 7000 hours of shmup practice and multiple Strikers 2 Alls, yet a simple Daioh 2 ALL is taking close to another 7000 hours to complete. Explain. Should've taken a few weeks max couple months.
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>>7721845
>7000 hours
what the fuck lmao
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>>7721845
He plays 20mins a week due to his busy cord posting farm spying schedule. Seething at soft, char and kz is a full time job

>>7721572
All games and companies will have flaws question is does the good outweigh the bad? For Cave it does, give them another chance and you'll find some you like
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>>7721865
>For Cave it does, give them another chance and you'll find some you like
Doubt. Ikeda was trash at designing shmups.
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>>7721893
So is Yagawa
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>>7721923
Makes sense he went to go work for Ikeda, then, innit
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>>7721923
would rather play fagawashit over kikedashit desu, at least the rank system keeps things spicy.
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>>7718791
If you like Konami try Sexy Parodius or Trigon


>>7721851
it's documented lol
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>>7721950
>documented
>some schizo says "it should be"
come on retard
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>>7721968
what's real in your head is the funny part
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>>7721845
>yet a simple Daioh 2 ALL is taking close to another 7000 hours to complete.
A Daioh 2-all no-miss is much, much harder than 2-alling any of the Psikyo games.
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I like shmups and would like to discuss them but these are almost certainly the most cancerous, off topic, awful threads on /vr/ which is no small feat. Why are so many of you like this?
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>>7721979
tardo's conflations are always a wonder

first it was 'i 2all'd strikers 1945' then it became 'i 2all'd strikers trilogy'

first it was 'i played tatsujin ou with save states' then it was 'i 1all'd tatsu it isn't that hard'

first it was 'i am going for daioh 2all' then it was 'i no miss 2all gayoh'
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>>7721989
It's literally a cabal of discord schizos.
They all talk about drama in the discord and what other players are doing instead of playing fucking games
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>>7721979
HERE COMES
THE
COPE

It's been 8 months, forget the nm there isn't even a full clear and thats all jajajaja "plays" come on son

>>7721923
at least YGW has an artistic flare to his shmups
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>>7721950
Great graphics but unfortunately I'm not really a fan of Parodius because of Gradius syndrome. I'm more a fan of Irem, Toaplan, Compile, Cave and Zun. Its just the option system in Gradius style games is a bit too unforgiving. Sure the same is true of R-Type, and Abadox which I do like but it takes far less to power up so death is far less punishing.
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I remember the one stream I saw of tardos was
>emulated
>turbofire
>fucking gradius
>he still died
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>>7722000
Irem games are pretty notorious for fucking you over if you die to be honest senpai. Gradius syndrome is more for Gradius 3, the other games aren't nearly as brutal for recovery unless you're going for higher loops
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>>7721950
>Trigon
I didn't read that one in my initial response. Trigon looks comfy. Thanks for the suggestion.
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>>7721996
Funnier still is one month after he picked up Daioh he says: 'I could try showing a Daioh 2-ALL for the event btw.'

8 months later still nothing.
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I could show you my garegga max rank 10-all nmnb but i wont
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>>7722017
No problem, lots of japanese are pushing Trigon in secret but the westie scene is sleeping on it
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>>7722012
>5 options that you need to manually activate, later options requier more power-ups to toggle on
>many different options at the start of the game with little to now expiation which are more useful.
>100 percent memorization because your ship moves slow as molasses
>no auto fire so you have to mash buttons to not only fire but also drop bombs
IDK, I've never even enjoyed the original Gradius let alone any of the other games in the series. I felt the same way about the first two Darius games, but G-Darius and Darius Gaiden are kino so I like them way more then Gradius. In fact I always sorta felt Gradius games are one of the reasons shmups never became more popular because when most people think of the genre they think of games like Gradius. R-type games are not nearly as brutal. In fact I'd rather play Galaga before playing Gradius. IMHO
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>>7722039
All those issue resolve themselves if you learn to play Gradius games beyond the first stage
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>>7722053
yes and I've never learned to do that because all those issue have made playing the game unbearably unfun.
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>>7722039
Not everyone's cut out for hard recovery games, lad. That's why there's Cave.
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>>7722038
best game. ive gotten 3m through testing but its still 40-50k off what tuii has been posting
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>>7722062
>>7722062
>kill chain of enemies to get power-up
>Grab speed or miss next chain to get next power-up
>Kill red enemies to get more power-ups
>but power-ups are just options, so you better chose the right one
>but don't grab too many or your reset to the begging of the list without getting any benefits
>Die
>the checkpoint is after 4+ opportunists to power up and opportunities to get back on track are minimal
>might as well reset because your fucked
perhaps, its not all old-school shmups. Just games with that particular system seem to require pure memorization to a absurd degree that I could only imagine remembering if I grew up playing it like I grew up playing Super R-Type and Abadox.
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>>7722039
>100 percent memorization because your ship moves slow as molasses
In less than 5 seconds into the game you can increase your ship's speed.
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>>7690548
you have good taste
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>>7722037
Garegga doesn't loop, you can only get a 1-ALL in it...
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>>7690153
It is a genre I never been into but always respected. I know that sounds nerdy but all I am saying is I recognize them as quality retro games deserving of being played. I want to eventually just sit down for a few months and go at it playing a ton of these games in a marathon. I've at least played and beaten a few of these games.

Shmups are good.
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>>7722249
You didn't know Garegga has a secret 2nd loop?
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>>7721995
Most of the shit that's discussed here happenned on 4chan, newfag
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>>7721610
*If* you're not ric, you shouldn't defend him like this, documenting his life and shit, it's gay and you're making a fool out of you
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>>7722228
but that's just the issue. I just looked up a walk-through because of this conversation and every single one says.
>Better upgrade your speed twice
>then get Options and perhaps next "?"
>then get Laser after having at least two Options
>once your powered up the rest of the game is cake
>...as long as you memorize the places to sit and cheese the bosses
>unless you die, then your fucked and you might as well start from the begining
Any other order your essentially dead
>get Laser first?
>Your fucked
I just don't see how that's fun. But I'll give it another shot. Maybe I'll get gud and have a change of heart.
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Galaga 88 is actually pretty great. Addictive, almost to the point of annoyance. Presentation holds up surprisingly well, too. And the alternate routes make it very replayable. I get done with the game, and I immediately start itching for more. Was never crazy about the early Galagas but this one is doing it for me.

>>7722039
>>7722094
You aren't the only one who isn't into Gradius. I can't get into it for exactly the reasons you listed.

The Life Force version is supposed to be more forgiving since you can at least recapture options (but not other power ups) after dying, but I've never once managed to do it. Seems like something that's more there for player 2 to take advantage of.
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>>7690548
DDP:DFK > DDP > DoDonPachi DaiOuJou > Espgaluda > Dangun Feveron > Deathsmiles > mushihime-san futari > Mushihimesama > DDP:SOJ > Progear > Espgaluda II > Guwange
Hate putting Guwange in last, still like that game a lot.
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>>7690153
Total awesome Gamers? yeah. i'm a Totally awesome gamer.
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>>7722386
Cring
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>>7722365
No DonPachi?
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>>7722459
Might be under Guwange. I keep trying it but I just can't get in to it.
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>>7722390
Cringle
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>>7722459
what's the appeal of donpach it's pretty boring at the start
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>>7722614
I'm moderately new at shmups but I like the balance DonPachi has. It's like this inbetween that's neither bullet hell or traditional shmup. It's not too overwhelming but still gets challenging and exciting and hectic enough to be enjoyable. I don't know of too many other games with that tradshmup/bullethell balance, maybe Battle Garrega but the scaling difficulty makes that one more overwhelming. Sorcer Striker might be a good example of something similar, that has a balance of bullet density sort of like DonPachi's.

Maybe being a bit new to the genre is part of it, I like a small dash of ego food to warm up before the game starts kicking my ass.

Plus I just really like the aesthetics. Visual design and sound design are really charming, and the narrator is great. The style and everything just screams 'classic arcade action' in a certain nostalgic way, but there's enough going on that it feels fresh and detailed. In this surface level 'flavor' regard I like it more than any other shmup I've tried so far, and as shallow as it might sound that really does go a very, very long way.

Just a feelgood game I can slide into whenever. I always have a good time with it.
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>>7722645
are you actually new or do you just suck at the genre?
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>>7722651
A little of column A, a little of column B.
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>>7690150
1. Gameplay that in some way is dictated by random numbers generating, aka rolling dice to determine outcomes either physically or simulated by a machine itself
2. Character creation and/or customization of characters
3. The ability to level up through the gaining of experience points earned in battles or doing tasks
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>>7722696
sounds hot, what's the game called?
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>>7722696
The newest touhou fits that pretty well.
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mfw so good at shmups that survival runs take too long to get interesting and fun.

Guess I have to take the Cave (or Raizing) pill now.
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>>7722365
DDP way lower, replace DOJ and DFK, and Progear and Guwange should be replaced.
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>>7722852
You will NEVER be Japanese, and you will NEVER put high scores on their cabinets, gaijin baka yarou.
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I did my first no miss in star parodia, but now I'm not sure what to try next. I would prefer another cute em up.
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>>7722852
>Guess I have to take the Cave (or Raizing) pill now.
no way, shmups don't need elaborate scoring to have fun scoring. More important is do you enjoy the stages, the ships and playing the game itself.

Look at speedrunners they speedrun games that weren't even designed for it, and the concept is simple just ''do it faster'' yet it adds infinite replay value and tons of optimizations. You can sore Konami, Psikyo even old simple shmups just fine and the difficulty will increase a ton
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>>7722880
Mamorukun Curse, Detana Twinbee, any Parodius, Pocky & Rocky, Sisters Royale
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>>7722365
You should try out Ketsui.
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>>7722880
Air Zonk
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>>7722852
if you're going to score Cave try Progear, for Raizing try Dimahoo. Cool to do games fewer western players have pushed
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I don't like routing
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>>7722249
No trust me my friend who got a 15-ALL in Batsugun verified it
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>>7722852
lmfao sure
post stream
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>>7690153
He's got a point
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>>7690153
True video game enthusiasts
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>>7722331
The only thing I upgrade first is speed, the rest I do whatever I want. I have done many 1 life complete and also prefer to die in hard parts and then try to recover(it's the best thing in the game since it requires skill, memorization only works when you ship is upgraded to the max) from that situation. You don't even need to upgrade speed(have done that many times), but will have to accept how slow the ship is.
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>>7722039
If you were complaining about the Cube section in G3 or recovery in specific hard spots fine, but you're complaining about basic bitch shit that beginners figure it in a day or two of playing...
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>>7723215
>in a day or two of playing
you mean "in a credit or two"
and the guy seems to be talking about original gradius, which only has one ship and with self-explanatory upgrade names, you can't really be confused by that (dude I really wonder what "laser" does)
probably never actually played the game more than 5 seconds
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>>7722885
>Sisters Royale
Pretty good game even if it looks a little like mobile shovelware. Extremely forgiving for survival and hard to score. Which is not a terrible balance.
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>>7723032
How many loops are there in Batsugun Special?
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>>7722885
>Mamorukun Curse
I should have bought this game on release, the physical copies are over 100 bucks now.
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>>7723304
Its without a doubt an issue that I'm most familar with in the original but it seems to be true in most gradius and gradius style games.

>two power ups just to get to proper speed
>but don't speed up after two or you'll move too fast
>need 5 power ups to unlock your first option
>need and additional 5 to unlock a second option
>unlocking additional options will increase your rank
>Double cost 3 power ups
>Laser cost 4 power ups
>Laser and Double don't stack so you need to collect several power ups to switch and now which power-up is best for each section
>Once your powered up all you really need to worry about it refilling your "?" shield

Yes, I'm sure once you memorize a rough to get powered up its not so bad, but my god man there is no other shooter I can think of that is that punishing. Like I said, once I git gud, I might change my opinion, but that shit is not clear nor is it fun before you learn this esoteric bs.
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know*
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>>7723496
Cool but where are the 2Alls?
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>>7721779
>shmupmonkey containment cord
How do you know?
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>>7723560
i'm not Ric bro, I don't larp as a pro. I just like fun danmaku and a handful of classic shooters like R-Type, Blazing Lazer and
Serei Senshi Spriggan.
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>>7723603
just realized Ric isn't in that place anymore or Ultramania. Huh, wonder what happened.
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>>7723621
>>7723621
wait so shmupmonkey IV doesn't hide liars & posers anymore? wow
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>>7723626
Rumor has it that the folks there instituted a new rule that if you claimed to 2all a shmup you needed to show some proof, which made tardo go into hiding. Baseddrink cucking him out of gusyphus' hole was the killing blow that sent him into meltdown mode.
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>>7723758
that's a big old OOF me thinks
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invite me to monkey cord
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ghosting in septic thread
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Gentlemen, I announce to you all that the jarpig jihad is over. You will no longer deadname the user formerly known as Synthricardo and now refer to her by her new name, StarBlossom89.



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