What's the appeal of the genre?I tried Dragon Blaze today and I said to myself, I said: "Who was the target audience of these damn games?" pic related.I can't imagine spending hours grinding these insanely 'tism dodges. Can you? Did you? Are you?
>>7690150Who was the target audience of these damn games?" it starts with a T
just gotta git gud>>7690153always on your mind and you can't let go
>>7690150>>7690150>Psikyo caved in and adopted queer fucking bullets.No wonder they declared bankruptcy shortly after.
can't wait to play this on switch and PC
>>7690150>playing psikyo shityikes
>>7690227>can't wait to play this on switch and PCPC release? what's the scoop
Played Dragon Blaze alot, when it came out. If you check out the specific mechanics the game becomes alot of fun.
>>7690239a lot is two words. fy.
>>7690240English is not my native tongue, but thanks I guess.
>>7690234it's coming to steam too
>>7690150>insanely 'tism dodgesAnon, the gif you posted is a meme in the shmup community, it's from some cheated youtube shitplay. You're not supposed to dodge stuff in Psykio games, you're supposed to learn and route, esp in the later stages/2nd loop.
>>7690227>we got this instead of a M2 port of the proper gameKek, thank you Cave
>>7690447Who cares DoJ has two good ports and runs fine in mame. If anything DDP needs the M2 treatment and a rearranged soundtrack.
>>7690150>Who was the target audience of these damn games?Japanese >getting gud at shmups equals 'tismfound the morbidly obese mouth breather
>>7690509>getting gud at shmups equals 'tismYou disagree?. What's your idea of got gud?
>>7690224Even more reason to dodge those bullets!
My favorite Cave games are Espgaluda, Progear no Arashi and Mushihimesama. Thoughts?
>>7690539It depends on how deep the rabbit hole we are talking. But getting competent enough to clear a Shmup is not autism. That is unless your suggesting the entire male population of the nation of Japan in the late 80's early 90's to 00' suffers from autism.
>>7690548Why not Futari 1.0 with the music removed?
>>7690651>But getting competent enough to clear a Shmup is not autismThat bar is a bit low, don't you think?>the entire male population of the nation of Japan in the late 80's early 90's to 00' suffers from autism.if they didn't have it then, they certainly have it now
>>7690548I think ESP.ra.de is best, mainly based on aesthetics and the base mechanics, but I realize its not perfect. I also am a fellow cave enjoyer so I would rank the games as fallowed. ESP Ra.De. > Ketsui > DoDonPachi DaiOuJou > Mushihimesama > Progear > DoDonPachi > Espgaluda > DonPachi > Deathsmiles > mushihime-san futari > Guwange > Espgaluda II > Dangun Feveron* Typically I like the black labels arranged modes of many of these games more than their original release. I haven't played enough of the other games like Ibara, Pink Sweets and Muchi Muchi Pork! for example to really rank them.
>>7690689>That bar is a bit low, don't you think?No because I'm not autistic. But if there is a whole nation of Shmup enjoyers who they designed these games to appeal to that drove the Japanes industry in the late 80's to 00' then they clearly where not mainly designed with those non-autistic people in mind. I know its pedantry but that is my argument. >they certainly have it now>post a picture that was clearly made as a jokethat is quite the accusation. Perhaps your right, but considering your lack of understanding humor based on the clearly intentionally humorous photo you posted perhaps you are the one with tism.
>>7690703Why are DaiOuJou and Ketsui so highly revered among Cave fans?
>>7690732>No because I'm not autistic.but your posts prove otherwise, care to explain?>your lack of understanding humor based on the lel the irony
>>7690743Multiple loops and good scoring
More like Dragon Gays
<<7690753>>anon post "ha ha funny picture" as proof japan is autistic despite clearly being too autistic to understand humor. >no u>>7690743>>7690757>good scoring systemsthis, and they are just fun to play.
>>7690469DDP runs perfectly in mame too.I wouldnt call the 360 port good even though it's playable.
>>7690841>using MAME instead of FBNeo where applicablebig yikes
>>7690743Top notch presentation, good difficulty curve and very solid gameplay / scoring system
>>7690847Sup Mark, stop the shill for a sec'
>>7690847>more focused on playability and advanced features than accuracy.this has to be bait.
>>7690862Do you know what is inaccurate in fbn compared to mame?
>>7690886that's the words of the developers.
>>7690548For me it's Fever SOS based on the music and catching freefalling discomen, followed by the DonPachi series and Progear because I like to enjoy some horizontal action every once in a while.
>>7690808>still taking the 'tism ''debate'' seriouslyyep it's the Tism
>>7690841>I wouldnt call the 360 port good even though it's playable.>mfw the 360 port takes like a full minute to load upon bootup
<<7690954>gets btfo'd several times>too autistic to realize they have been btfo'dKEK
>>7690651>That is unless your suggesting the entire male population of the nation of Japan in the late 80's early 90's to 00' suffers from autism.>>7690732>But if there is a whole nation of Shmup enjoyers who they designed these games to appeal to that drove the Japanes industry in the late 80's to 00' then they clearly where not mainly designed with those non-autistic people in mind. I know its pedantry but that is my argument.Autism speaks.
QUICK, /VR/!! THE GIANT ENEMY GUNSHIPS ARE ABOUT TO ATTACK EARTH!! NAME YOUR FIVE FAVORITE SHMUPS AND THREE FAVORITE SHMUP DEVELOPERS TO FIGHT THEM OFF!!
CV1000B is coming to FB eventuallyget fucking hypeI'll finally ditch that pos M*ME for good
>>7691293Cave, Toaplan & Irem, R-Type, ESP.Ra.de, & Dogyuun
>>7691438team shanghai alice shits on all three
<<7691287>i.i.i.i don't have autism t.t.t.the whole nation of Japan is autistic.>see I.i.i posted a funny picture but didn't understand basic hummor>a-a-and despite being BTFO'd several times I'm still giving (You)'s to the anon that is clearly mocking me!!!>RRRRRREEEEEEEEEEEEEEprojection much?
>>7691442I like 2hu as well but I wouldn't say ZUN is a god.
What's the first bullet hell game? How the fuck do I download these games, is there a how to guide for retards or have I been filtered
>>7691453how did you even find this board in the first place?
>>7691464I've been using websites since 1997 for game related stuff but, as you basically stated, I just cant keep up with online porn and fell behind in my 40s and am just now trying to find my stride after a nasty divorce. You got a kik messenger?
>>7690703>dfeveron in last placebruh
>>7691481just download a recent mame romset it has all the games gramps
>>7691474I see. DDP is on an sd card I have full of emulators for my psp through Mame but it's sideways
>>7691453Google ShmupMAME, then google the ROMs for some of the more popular games, or google which of them got decent home console ports at some point and emulate those.
>>7691483Thank you, sounds like a start
>>7691482Sorry just don't personally like the disco aesthetic, and the ships bullets. All that busyness makes it too hard for me to fallow the bullets on screen. I'd much rather play 2hu or another Cave game with a less visually confusing art design. But even at last place its a good shmup. >>7691481>4chan>1997They are arcade games, your an adult figure it out. Just like how you found this site in 1997 on Usenet :^)
>>7691453just download touhouno emulation, get them on moriyashrine or whatever
>>7690210OP's gif is tas, retarded cunt
bump for shmups.
>>7690232>being a cavetrannykek
>>7691924Not an excuse
>>7692932Post your Strikers 2Alls, poser
>>7692939t. retarded cunt
>>7692942Lmao how will "jajaja" recover
>>7692942>>7693042>>7692932Imagine claiming to 2All Strikers 1945 trilogy, made by Psikyo in the 90s and also having trains and jarpigs live rent free in your head. >>7691447You definitely have autism and something worse too.
do you guys like fantasy zone
>>7693145based sonicfox triggering shmupfags
>>7691293Truxton 2Fever SOSDoDonPachiR-Type LeoX MultiplyIremCaveToaplan
>>7691442>>7691451This is a shmup thread actually. Galaga? Argus? Blood bros? Outzone? What do you know about real shmups?
>>7693224>R-Type Leonice choice
>>7693238I know you have to take estrogen and suck a lot of cocks to get recognized as a real shmuper.
>>7693238>tfw you want to like Out Zone but you get filtered by the first hundred feet of it until you get the weapon spread upgradeIt's like a twin stick shooter, but you only have one stick and both movement and shooting are mapped to it. Seems to get a lot more manageable once you have spread and can shoot at stuff without being in its line of fire.
>>7690150Play Raiden. It's fun until you die and lose all your power ups.
>>7693247Shmups draw me in when they have cool weapons and soundtracks and a nice overall feel. In R-Type Leo's case it's the green homing lasers and the blue reflecting shot, plus the first stage music is pretty cool. Same story with Truxton 2's first stage music and the blue autotargeting lasers or with X Multiply's first stage music and the damage immune tentacles your ship can grow.
>>7692942>>7693038>>7693145>tardo living rent freethe state of cavetrannies
>>7693145>my bud is now aware>rics "bud"Must be an efriend, relative, or figment of his imagination like the Strikers trilogy clears.>>7693293Outzone and Guardian Force, I recommend both
>>7693369>>7693247how does scoring work in Leo anyway? Gotta use the charge pods more than shot ?
>>7693429I'm just glad to survive.
>>7693504it does start off pretty friendly but then cranks up the difficulty in the end a lot
>>7693553It's an awesome shooter that is highly regarded our community. But not really a traditional "R-type" if you are looking for slow, calculated puzzle like levels. For that I'd suggest Pulstar or Delta.As Metal Slug co-designer Kazuma Kujo said: "[Leo] is quite innovative for an R-Type game, and it was well done for a shooter, but it doesn’t quite feel like an R-Type game."
>>7690150Hiding replays so no one can beat your scores!!!
>>7693639good, autists should figure things out for themselves
>>7693642But what if all my strats were copied off my Nihonjin friends' replays which are also hidden?
>>7693238>hating based touhouit's way better than your literal who dadshit and among the best danmakus (bullet hells)
>>7693732>"it's way better than your literal who dadshit and among the best danmakus (bullet hells)"
>>7690242I think you did alright. Lots of people here need to find flaws in everyone else in order to justify their existence
>>7693145Remove him or will he remove himself? Let's see.>>7693642Half the fun is figuring out these games for yourself, strat hiding should be standard practice imo
>>7690150faggotsyesyesno, it's a big waste of time. better play jrpgs while watching shmups streams I tell you
>>7693882>better play jrpgs while watching shmups streams I tell youno need to do shmup homework just say you 2Alled Stroikers ez , meanwhilst stalk touhou players twatters and the Farm and post screenies of their shmup gaffs m8
>>7693429>how does scoring work in Leo anyway?kill everything and survive without dying, you get bonuses at the end per extend. Probably some minor millking involved somewhere too? not sure
>>7693739lol>>7693347raiden dx > raiden 1
>>769453618/f/japanI like shooting game and daioujou players best.And you?
>>7694593its not worth it
>>7694593Imagine the smell
>>7690150Reminder that Raiden 4 Mikado remix comes out on may 6th.
>>7695247>Mikado remixit's literally nothing.jpg
When will you manchilds get a job and take on adult responsibilities?
>>7691368>FBisn't it just to play fightcade online with favela monkeys?
Why is there such a dumb argument? STGs are execution heavy games, if you don't like that don't play them
>>7695980runs fine in shmupmame not reading that shite
>>7695626can't have lightning fast bullets and danmaku-tier bullet density, it's one or the other.Only thing that might come close is Espgaluda red-mode.
>>7694593>>7694593>18/f/japanaverage shmup player desu
>>7696025Because they only made PERFECT shmups
scores are just a waste of time, clears are all you needSent from my iPhone X
>>7696241then go back to belt scrollers or fighting games; shmups are a scoring genre first and foremost>>7696025Ikaruga and RSG have deep scoring systems that go over your head
>playing auto-scrollers for survivalis there anything more boring and passive once you figure out a basic shitters' route?
>>7696316imo scoring happens naturally when you find a shmup you like to tinker with and enjoy replaying, problem is if the game is good you'll be low on the score ladder for a long time. fragile egos can't handle that.
>>7696516>problem is if the game is good you'll be low on the score ladder for a long time. fragile egos can't handle that.So play a dead mode in a dead game and get the Western WR right quick bruv
>>7696581For me it's telling people I 2All the Strikers games.
>>7696389yes I'm a secondary too, shmups aren't my main genre and competition triggers my anxiety and illness>>7696516>>7696581why would I score a genre that isn't my main?
>>7696316You gotta be able to clear it before you can move on to score anon, but yeah you should play for score after you git gud
>>7695479>STGs are execution heavyThis gay genre is only played by boomers and trannies who've fried their (male) brains with pills BECAUSE it's not mechanically demanding yet still allows you to LARP as a skilled player because of the flashing lights (RGB lights anyone?) and total obscurity of the genre. Shmup players don't even like video games. Can't tell you how many total fucking faggots I've seen on here who ONLY play shmups and VNs. That makes you a virgin, not an authority on gaming. Try winning a tournament. Oh, one caveat: you also have to try not shitting your bed sheets.
if you don't play for score why play shmups at all?
>>7696816Nice faggot essay you wrote here fag
I was interested in R Type and started playing Delta, but it seems so memorisation heavy.
>>7695980>posts cps >doj is PGMsad.
>>7696025Radiant Silvergun is not half bad.
reminder let's stay on topic
for me it's Shitta
>>7697213Mahou Daisakusen? I just recently picked up the PS4 version of this game and was curious if anyone can point me to a guide or does any know what the stats for each ship is? Speed, main shot damage, sub weapon shot damage, other hidden stats. I searched quite a bit and couldn't find hardly anything about the core mechanics of the game.Thanks!
>>7697217shitclears are fun when you're new, or need a break from your main games
>>7697124Both a good desu. Poohoo in the other hand...
>>7697217But scoring is fun if the system clicks with your tastes
>>7697260>hating based touhoutouhou is peak shmups tbqh
>>7697219shitclears are the only thing to even look forward to when you're new
>>7697348More peak crap.
>>7697361Peak crap is Cave and Yagawa
>>7697348>touhou is peak shmups tbqh(you) lost /v/ ?>>7697124Game Play density matters>>7697219shitclears are not just poorly optimized clears but also below your skill level, or just easy in general. ofc new players are only capable of shitclears for a while, until they get good and actually learn a couple games proper
>Anon...this isn't a show.
>>7697361>innovative patterns and mechanics>cool-looking patterns instead of the mess that is cave>awesome musicyeah I'm thinking touhou is based
Here comes the 2poo Defense Force trannies, shan't be giving you (You)s, faggots
>>7697407>innovative>same slow patterns for 25 yearslol
>>7697428 wut u play bruv?
Rayforce > Raystorm > Raycrisisthis is right
>>7697545/fa/ as fuck
>>7696852same reason you might play any video game without chopping your dick off and speedrunning it
>>7690753>your posts prove otherwisehe had just said that getting competent enough to clear a shmup isn't autism, and you said that was "a low bar" as if keeping the bar low wasn't his entire point>>7690757You seem to be intent on calling random people autistic seemingly because you disagree on what games you enjoy, in which case why would you even care to discuss it at all? Sounds like you're the autist self-consciously flaunting your anecdotal taste for internet validation to me
>>7691512This site was made in late 2003 but it's not like anyone cares to look things up themselves anymore apparently
>>7690150Touhou was my introduction to shmups, it has iconic characters that get tons of porn, tons of lore that keeps you wanting to get to the endings, hype music, etc.By getting into Touhou you feel like you're getting into something big, you feel like you're being rewarded, it's not just about the challenging gameplay but an array of other benefits.After playing a dozen of other shmups, Touhou is still my favorite franchise of the genre, some other games can have technically better systems, but they never made me want to get really good, they never left me craving for more.
>2poo good because: tons of porn, tons of lore keeps me playing and craving more>hype music> it's not just about the challenging gameplay but an array of other benefits>''touhou benefits'' yes of course.>>7697428this prediction came true
>>7697793It was a reference to Eternal September
>>7697830>2poo good because: tons of pornthe fact that it was the first argument is really funny
>>7697830>>7697853I don't care about pretending to be a purist of the genre, lack of reward is a genuine point, it's just generic ships against generic alien invasions or generic warfare and even when you win you still feel like you lose because a new loop starts but it's even more tryhard now, I enjoy porn, yes I'm genuine about it, but I also enjoy story and characters so enjoying Touhou not just about the porn, Touhou may have flying girls but it unironically has more soul than traditional shmups>shut up this ship with cool design blowing up mechas is way more original than uguu girlsNo it's not, they look original for today because nobody is doing it anymore but they were generic as fuck even back in the 90s, Touhou only looks generic if you have alergy against anime girls but its charm goes beyond just being about anime girls, the worldbuilding and other nuances are a classier experience than going oonga boonga for months of your life just for 1 game about spaceships with spiky designs, at that point you should probably learn a new instrument or a new language.
>>7697869>nooooo you can't dislike generic hentai, slow-ass patterns and recycled piano tunes!!! nooooooooo!!!!!!!!1
>>7697545clp looking sharp as fuck holy shit
>>7697806>hype musiclmao, can we stop with the "touhou music is good" meme?sure some fan arranges are good, but the music in the actual games is nauseating
@7697869Nice little essay, asstwat. Not reading that shit and still not giving you a (You).
>>7697852That was regarding the constant influx of new Usenet users, 4chan wouldn't exist for another six years. What a terribly executed reference
>>7697949Not him, but it's really hilarious how newfags like yourself have the concept of replying so backwards, like your response doesn't count as a response because you're not directly quoting them with 4chan formatting, and opt for the equally cancerous YouTube and Twitter quote formatting, even though you're still replying and tacitly concedingIn your mind you've already won, which is what made you lose just now. Failure
@7697983I'm posting on /shmupg/ since 2016 while you just discovered the thread to defend MUH TOUHOU PORN. Chop you dick off already.
>>7698031That's nice; I've been here since the board was made in 2013, I only played Imperishable Night casually and I honestly couldn't care less about magical girl hentai.>chop your dick off already>mfw you're so mad you can't read the first two words in the post you're responding to
>>7697949>forgotten worlds pic sweet art. take not touhou players, what anime could be like if you were all gassed
>>7698081Guess what? Osamu Tezuka's large anime eye styling has inspired numerous artists to this day and is based on American rubber hose cartoons with their exaggerated and expressive faces
>>7696956if something as basic as CPS isn't running at the correct speed then you know PGM sure the fuck isn't
>>7697959>idiot thinks I was saying 4chan started in 1997>missing the clear sarcasm>missing the reference to Eternal September>board culture used to frown on spoon-feeding>newfaggots think this should be encouraged hence a subversion of the boards "netiquette"facepalm I honestly hope your just really autistic.
>>7690150The same turbo autism of competitive games but in singleplayer form.Honing a skill over and over but you can't flex that skill over anyone, it feels like a waste of time.
>>7698935>but you can't flex that skill over anyoneThat's why leaderboards exist my man
>>7698935Shmups are for stoic flexing. You wouldn't get it
>>7698965>>7698935>>7698979>>7696852Interesting topic.I speedrun for the competitive itch. Shmups I play to chill, R type Leo is good fun that way, not too hard but not too easy.
>>7698935>ego on an anonymous image boardwhen will you learn?
>>7698991What's a good action game to run?
>>7699008Metal Slug X
>>7690150>I can't imagine spending hours grinding these insanely 'tism dodges.>picrel is an stream pattern tased by a retardwhat did he mean by this
>>7699207Copying a tas is autistic desu
>>76992072poo makes you do those dodges
>>7700857yeah but at speed x0.1
Any recs for games with a similar look of Thunder Force V? I love that weird early 3D style.
>>7700959I don't even think it's 3D, just 3D rendered sprites.
Is Cozmic Collection worth getting just for G-Darius? I already have Burst Chroniclesaviours
>>7701050no clue but HD would be nice for surealthough you can run G-Darius in mame decently now, ver 2.0 is great
Poohoo sucks, deal wiz it faggots
>>7701250touhou is the shovelware of shmups.
>>7701250No need for arguments, thats fax
>>7697251That site is made by a tranny, don't use it.
>>7701369That tranny made what Ricky dreamed of for so long : doing something actually useful for the community... Ric BTFO
>>7701369the shmup info is useful, not much Mahou Daisakusen info on the internet -- but what kinda tranny we talking here?
>>7701404https://twitter.com/CHARLENEMAXIMUMgoes by "Queen Charlene" also one of the devs of Mechanical Star Astra. He should be killed.
>>7701465alright you win.
>>7701465>He should be killed.SHE should be killed, transphobe
>>7701549>>7701465jej>>7701268>>7701248>>7701250explain the rivalry between touhou and shmups ?
Reminder that Charlene is jacked and 6'6 and would fuck both Cee and Ric in a fight. At the same time.
>>7701721Nice selfie. Wot u play
>>7701465>>7701549>>7701662>>7701686>/fit/ twink male in drag>vs>fat balding man obsessed with you calling them a womanbut face facts even Shmupers trannies are more alpha then Sneed Runners. >Washington stateSeattle is fucked up right now senpai. can we get back on topic please>>7701662It non existent, but back in the day there was a feud in the japanes community iirc.
>>7700959R Type Delta, G Darius, and Einhander, no question
>>7701662>explain the rivalry between touhou and shmups ?people are salty because all shmups are dead besides touhou (because it's better)
>>7701768And it's better because of porn. Or so said the 2hu defense force. Wow!
>>7701782when I'm done with my touhou homework, I can fap to some hentai :)
I just don't like touhou because its fans are obnoxious waifu having types. I also hate shmups though. Most boring genre in the world. I'd rather play a golf game before Galaga rip off number 698.
>>7701662Touhou faggots only care about the fanservice and not the games. I think the games are fine, but they're not arcade quality.
what shmups need is some story modes and cooler characters to relate to
>>7701997Most shmups have stories you know.
>>7702017That's why they need story modes
Jap shmups including Cave games are on sale in Steam right now!
>>7702080>touhou not on saledon't care desu
>>7702080Thank you sir
Perfect opportunity to sick grab Game Tengoku (good dad game with cute characters) or Psyvariar (bullet hell shooter 10x better than most cave games, it must be said).
>>7698714Eternal September was 1993 though. I appreciate the reference but you fucked up the execution so thats why everybody is confused. Although this place is full of newfags so they probably still would be confused.
I can't wrap my head around Gradius' powerup systems, I tried 5 and got filtered
>>7702883How? Do you have a bird brain?
>>7697607nice. love xenogears, xenosaga was meh. i think it was the characters
>>7702527IMO the best in the series is Psyvariar Revision. Best levels and lots of branching paths to give the game variety and depth. Psyvariar 2 is good but the lack of paths and some really short levels make it feel rushed by comparison. Technically the Delta arrange might be tied for best because it's a more souped up Revision and has that awesome mech ship to control too.
>>7702446Already have Psyvariar Delta and Revision on PS2.
Right now I'm trying to 1-life complete Gradius[PC-Engine version](it will also be the first time I finish the game). I was suffering against those moai heads yesterday, but now I'm able to get to stage 4(I assume every time you defeat that big ship, you pass a stage). This game is really unforgiving, depending on where you die, that is pretty much game over since you don't have any option anymore. Because of that, I decide to go for 1 life complete at once since dying once is the same as game over, imo.I'm loving this game, btw. I play it between some games or between study session. I'm not using save state to train some areas, as some people seems to do, because I'm used to play games on arcade and there is no save state there, training in some area means getting to that area again(which also makes me get even better in the earlier areas).
>>7703152Yeah, that's called Gradius syndrome. They're great games, but if you die you're fucked.
>>7703202>Gradius syndromeI guess this is so normal that they even have a term for it. heh
>>7703152>dying once is the same as game over, imo.nah recovering is possible in most places and a lot more fun than just giving up when you die.
>>7703243Perhaps, but because I want to do the 1-life complete thing, I stop playing as soon as I die. After that, I replay it without caring and see how I'd recover in some situations.
I stupidly got an xbox for ninja gaiden, now I need more games for it.What STGs on xbox would you recommend?
>>7703303There's some backwards compatible 360 games too I saw in the store
>>7703273I don't think there's any shoot 'em ups for the original xbox...
>>7704057Save scumming isn't the same thing as using save state practice to learn a game. No wonder you didn't enjoy it.
>>7701371>useful>contributed by jarpigs, posers, and novice playersLMAO, enjoy your useful info
>>7703250Are you nihonjin, perchance?
>>7703273As bad as Sigma 2 is, I honestly prefer Sigma 1 over Ninja Gaiden Black.
>>7702527>Is Psyvariar 2 the best in the serie?the tlb is the best boss battle in any shmup ever but revision is better over all.
>>7704291>the tlb is the best boss battle in any shmup ever but revision is better over all.what makes it good? what makes boss battles in shmups good anyway? I never thought of that
>>7704105shippu guide has been written by the WR holderit's not like you care about these games anyway
oh and jarpigs and novices who actually play shmups > shmups "players" who lie about clears and play discord all day
>>7704470lmao we all know who the second one refers to
>>7704471>>7704470No we dont. You've been exposed as a non player. Post your shmup achievements if you disagree.
>>7704338>what makes it good?its completely epic
>>7697545Is that moot, the creator of 9gag?
>>7704906stfu Ric. keep it silent like the last few weeks.
>- wiki is good>- b-but nonplayers and jarpigs wrote it>- well you got this guide written by a WR holder>- u-ur a nonplayer hurr durr post you're scoarskek the absolute STATE of your brain retardo, post your Strikers clears first you fucking lying ass greasy spic manlet jajaja
>>7697545>juggling interests me
>>7705265>"stfu Ric. keep it silent like the last few weeks.">>7705250>"you fucking lying ass greasy spic" <-- (you)>>7704463ako is good but he's not the norm, let's be real.
>>7705008Yes, back when he was making facebook.
>>7705265>Strikers clearsAre Strikers games hard?
>>7705289>let's be real.>tfw ricky pretends he can't post here.>>7705326yes they are. the loops are pretty crazy.
>>7705342>search "lets be real" on guscord>every usage is ricky
just here for my monthly visit to declare that it's hilarious how cavefags can't stop screeching at dad shmuppers and 2hufags
>>7705747this except 2poo niggers are fags and deserve it
for me, it's copes and delusions
>>7705347You're very patient and I respect that
>>7697124>dude having a billion shots without rhyme or reason on the screen obfuscating every detail of the game every second mean its better lmaoQuality =/= quantity.
>>7706684>without rhyme or reason>being this much of a pattern-recognitionletyikes!
>>7706723>Boss shoots a bunch of shit at you>Oh I guess I'll just stick to the bottom of the screen and tiptoe around itGalaxian has more riveting gameplay.
>>7697124Both are great, though
>>7706771Both horizontal and vertical shmups are good.
>>7706771I'm the one you replied above and I also love horizontal shmups. I said that as I replay Gradius series again.
Which cave games have the least rng?
>>7706771don't talk shit about gradius gaiden m8
go play Viewpoint on neo geo. so rewarding
What makes Gradius so good? Haven't played it but you lads love the series
>>7707390no point talking about it, just go play and see
>>7705289is that a gif of Sam?
>>7707870flase flag akagi post.behave yourself samuel i know what youre up to.
Tell us more boring theories about soft and how he hurt you instead of getting those Strikers 2 alls you claim.
>>7706771horis have better level design and gameplay so they are better
what's everyone playing?
>>7708635Not sure what to play but I want to try this Strikers 2ALL I keep hearing about
>>7705289>let's be realas real as your strikers clear?
>>7709026>as real as your strikers clear?OOF
>POST THE 2ALL!!Not so fast, you realize how pointless this is?>>7707870>is that a gif of Sam?actually akagi looks more like pic related.>>7706659>cumpile basedanon I....
>>7708635shikigami no shiro 2 (pc version), the best shooter them up
My pension check came in today, time to go for a new PB!!
What are some other STGs in the vein of axelay?
>>7710223In the vein of complete shit? 2hu fits the bill.
Can you pay rent with highscores? Can you buy food, qualify for a better job with your shmup skills?
>>7708635R-type Final II
>>7710501Why do you pretend to care? Leisure is leisure, nobody is forcing you to play shmups
>>7710582>pretendYou have no idea what kind of autism you're dealing with.
>>7710582>>7710657Anon has a point, there is a breed of autistic incels on the channels and chan's who read way too much Jordan Peterson and think that encouraging gamers to be "alpha" and larping as alphas despite being Epsilons irl will fix the world. So instead of fixing there own lives they shitpost on /v/ and /vr/ encouraged by cripto-leftist fedposting operatives on discord and reddit.
>>7708635Got to the final boss of Space Megaforce and died on my first try after getting the 1cc a few years ago. Such a banger of a SNES game technically.
>>7710582Nobody cares. Nobody cared when these games were knew 30 years ago and no one cares now.No one will ever care about your virtual accomplishments. Meanwhile your lack of education and your age piles up, you have the mind of a child but will be competing with old men your age with a laundry list of employment qualifications
>>7711517As long as I have my welfare or parents around that won't affect. >>7710678If you want to be alpha I better read Icycalms material imo. JP gives normie advice, it won't make you get bitches or become an elite achiever at your gaming craft.
>>7710582theres legit westies right now actively proudly throwing away all education and work to play hsmups 24 7 on welfare being egged on by other shmuptards>>7711517>you have the mind of a childif only you knew how bad things really are.
>>7710678Agree. We need to hide self-improvement strategies. gaming communities become threatening if the good players become good people.
>>7708635why would you play shmups when you can call touhoutrannies and cavepedos perverts
Is it possible for a new player to start and learn Battle Garegga?
>>7710501Grown men with responsibilities are capable of deciding what they want to waste their time on, be it a cigarette or masturbating or jogging or posting critical comments on 4chan. You didnt even list a lot of goals, get food and work on improving your employment can be done without consuming every hour of your day >>7711517 stop worrying so much about what other people think about you
>>7712332yes, best game ever
>>7711517>Nobody cares>Meanwhile your lack of education and your age piles up, you have the mind of a child but will be competing with old men your age with a laundry list of employment qualificationsYou seem to care quite a bit. You also seem to be projecting your own insecurities as you obviously have no way of knowing what qualifications I even have, leaving you with "informed guesses" that you have attained through your personal life experiences>>7711858You're complaining about welfare sponges, which has nothing to do with shmups and is only tangentially related to the people that play them>>7711934Clean your room pseud
>>7714847>You're complaining about welfare sponges, which has nothing to do with shmupsUnfortnately it does.
>>7690150I'm finna record tas video of lots of shmups showing off impossible doging and not disclose its a tas just to piss off discord shmuptrannys.
>>7715258>I'm going to make shmup TAS videos just to piss myself offhuh? alright. Make a couple Strikers 2-ALLs for our buddy ric thanks
>>7715452You will never be a woman
>>7715460You will never be a woman
>>7715463>nooo you can*t post le green frog I dont like it reeeeimagine being this triggered by a picture on the internet
>>7715470You will never be a woman
who /gladtoseebackofricky/ here?
>>7712332>new player to start and learn Battle GareggaWith the M2 port, especially if you turn on colored bullets in arranged mode. >>7715258>>7715262>>7715460>>7715470>>7715478>>7716631>>7717295>discord reddiotrs>or useful idiotswtf is wrong with (You) faggots?
>>7717338>everyone I dislike is a redditorseethe and take your meds.
Finally played Battle Garegga(on Mame). What a game. Now time to train for 1cc.
>>7717473Played it yesterday for the first time myself. Really fun.Apparently the difficulty is dynamic, so a 1cc will be quite a challenge. Unless you can manipulate difficulty to your favor, I guess. I don't know if that can be done without dying though.
>>7717523Yes, I had read about it and I assume dying is required since as soon as you get stronger to pass some part(or boss), the difficulty you just keep increasing until you die.
>>7717523Also, I can accept the challenge. I got to 1 life complete Gradius by trying once a day. I don't liketo force myself to 1cc those games, I like to take my time enjoying(and dying kek).
>>7717473>>7717523I'm tempted to pick up the M2 port because I really enjoy the training modes in ESP.Ra.De and Ketsui
>>7717606On Normal? Try R typer difficulty. Then there's hidden difficulties after...huge difference
>>7717275but he is gone
>>7715157>Government financial aid>Video gameNo, it doesn't. It is only ~tangentially~ related to the people that play them.You are no longer discussing the games, you are discussing the people that play them. You may as well be complaining about alcoholics or gang bangers, for example.>>7717338Attention whoring, conceited self righteousness, ignoring internet culture progression for "muh seekrit club identity". In a word, cancer
for me it's dodonpachi daioujou black label for xbox 360
>>7718080>can't talk about athletes in a sports thread, only talk about the ball, the field and the rules>can't talk about actors in a movie thread, only talk about the set, the camera and the script70 IQ mulatto >>7718112rather play the PS2 ver of Dai-ou-jou
>>7690150Because they are addictive and it feels good seeing all the dots on screen and squeezing my ship through them. >>7690153Ts weren't really a thing when these games were popular. They would bitch about the difficulty
who's your favorite taxpayer funded cyber athlete? for me it's the chav
Whats your favorite shooters from each dev anons?I'll Start >TaitoDarius Gaiden>G.RevBorder Down>CaveESP.Ra.de>ToaplanBatsugun>TreasureRadiant Silvergun>RaizingBattle Garegga>Seibu KaihatsuRaiden Fighters>HudsonRayforce>IremR-type>PsikyoSengoku Blade>CompileSpriggan>KonamiStar Parodier>Team Shanghai AlicePerfect Cherry Blossom>Capcom19XX: The War Against Destiny (feel free to disagree but Progear doesn't count imho because it's really Cave)>>7718170>doesn't honestly talk about shmups in a shmups thread>post reddit comics insteadcancer
Close to 5 million in Rayforce wonderin where do you all post your scores? do shmups have a speedrun.com type of website?
Mark MSX is actually pre handsome no homo
>>7718275>hudson>rayforceI thought Taito made the Ray games
>>7718275>Whats your favorite mass shooters
>>7718446aim for a World Record then you can be featured here https://shmups.wiki/library/STG_Hall_of_Records>>7718471careful , that one is influenced by a deceptive player
lmfaoUnless it has a replay it doesn't count
>>7718170>guise steroid abuse is bad guise>guise PA abuse is bad guiseYou're not talking about the sport or the art any longer, you're talking about individuals and the choices they make which is ultimately inconsequential to filmmaking or sports itself. You were so close to getting the point, but I guess when all you're aware of is gossip, that's all you'll have to offer...nice wojak vore folder
>tfw stopped being a shmup tranny 6 months ago>tfw deadlift went up 105 pounds>bench press went up 60>squat 80>reached 10dan in IIDX>never been happierWhy the FUCK are you still loading save states every day? At least play some games that take skill lads....
>>7718573>the virgin shmup only faggot>the chad connoisseur of every genre
>>7718573Been playing shmups for a long time and never used save states.
>>7718594I got a trillion billion in Dragster for atari
>>7718170>>can't talk about athletes in a sports thread, only talk about the ball, the field and the rulesplayers are interesting to talk about and their life choice and mistakes can certainly affect their gaming, just look at Yace (rip)
>>7718616If you want to gossip about people go to kiwifarms you faggotTalk about STGs
>>7718617You shouldnt have to go to kiwifarms to learn that the most known western shmup player (Gus) fucks dogs and worships school shooters
>>7718634Gus is on disability for being cyber-bullied. Not something to joke about. >>7718616I wouldn't compare shmups to sports... they're more like escapist puzzle games.
>>7718663>living off a corrupt nations wealth while getting nonstop STG WRsLike I said, BASED
>>7718685>dude i improved the counterstop!
>>7718691You see it is cringe at first.But he keeps grinding Mushi so much it wraps around to becoming based
>>7718569Yes, that logic extends to shmups. Gossip all you want, just understand how it has nothing to do with the actual games themselves
>>7718685>>7718691a console port of a game no one plays.and anyone who counterstopped it has the WR. Gus spinning his wheels, going nowhere for 10 years lol
>>7718718>Gus spinning his wheels, going nowhere for 10 years lolleast he doesn't lie about his achievements like you know who...
>>7718458>handsome>married>has kidsWhat the fuck is he doing playing shmups?
>>7718735He's someone I pointed out here >>7718574He said he enjoys fighting games and other arcade genres.Being ONLY into shmups is what makes peoples brain rot and in worse case scenario you become like tardo
>>7718739>He said he enjoys fighting games and other arcade genres.he also has a life outside gaming too...>Being ONLY into shmups is what makes peoples brain rot and in worse case scenario you become like tardobeing only into --video games-- is the bigger problem. Having other interests and goals will smooth that out even if you only play one genre (and no consuming movies and jpop isn't enough)
>>7718767>he also has a life outside gaming too...You mean his youtube and patreon!!
>>7718767Being into anything obsessively is harmful, whether it be painting, videogames, etc
>>7718460I'm retarded. I got the list of developers from shmups.system11 and googled to try to mach devs to games I liked but didn't know who developed them. I also said Star Parodier was Konami.
>>7718735>handsome>married>has kids>What the fuck is he doing playing shmups?being a Chad
>>7718787I too watched Soul by Disney/Pixar™
Pretty funny how my DOJ route works in Galuda 2 aye go figure. but listen guys how do I delay my hyper to increase tick milk pointing fuck asshole chaining multiplier for my score shit in based Cavedonpach game? I need to make the number go up and be BIG you know? That's what keeps me up at night. This is what my brain thinks about 24/7
>>7718813sharpie in pooper
>>7718818>>7718739I'm not like Mark. I play bullet hells because they keep me constantly busy so I don't think about how empty my life is and what I should be doing.Any other genre has downtime, and downtime means reality creeps back and haunts me. I need pure escapism and only bullet hells in their hardest mode block real life sufficiently. It would be better for me to grind mmorpgs all day but the brain in my head is only fully tricked by HARD-FAST-DENSE-THICK danmaku.
>>7718825If that's the case, maybe you should at least diversify your hobbies. Maybe learn an instrument.Do you have frequent dreams where you're being chased, perchance?
>>7718739There was a story that he got btfo'ed in trying to become eceleb in fg community because they're too smart to fell in that shit. Hence he moved his goal to shmups community and succeed. Guess why
>>7718838I don't like music enough to do that. I know what I should be doing but I avoid it because it's difficult, it means taking on responsibility and I know from past experience I can get hurt. I'm safe at home in my undies grinding my game, thank you very much
>>7718850>There was a narrative ric was trying to push but it got btfo like all his other narrativesOh i ctywaiting for his Strikers 2-Alls even now
>>7718860I'm sorry to hear that.Failure is a part of life. If you're unwilling to fail, you're hardly living.https://youtu.be/a6tvsqZwRHo
>>7718860Get into weight lifting lad. You don't even need to leave the house to do it if you buy a barbell and some plates.
>>7718875>>7718878None of those things will fix a wastrel, just stop, you're wasting your time. Some people are better off NEET.
>>7718884I don't give a shit. You're only a failure once you've given up
>>7718072>but he is goneHe'll be back with another scheme, wait and see.
for me, it's playing shmups and having sex with women.
>>7712332It's a hard game, but if really like it, you can do it. Remember that playing garegga is pretty different from your average shooter.
>>7717523>Apparently the difficulty is dynamicYes and everything raises the difficulty, if you shoot, it raises, if you pick up any items, it raises and so on. Only dying lowers the difficulty, so timing your 1ups with a suicide is a must. Also do not pick up any more power ups and bombs than you need to.
>>7718112It's a shitty port.
>>7718864move dude, he is gone just like perikles
What's the deal with Strikers 2-all? Why is it a meme?
I want to play Ibara but the rank system sounds annoying. Is it that bad?
>>7719237>>7719320Why is it so hard for people to accept that the rank raping you in YGW games is complete bullshit, and has no excuse to exist? You literally cannot no-miss any of the games he programmed.
>>7719329Anything you can recommend that has a similar style of YGW but not shit gameplay?
>>7719317Strikers 1945 trilogy was made by Psikyo in the '90s. 2-Alling all three games is quite the challenge.
>>7719329>why can't I copy a no-miss replay??No clue, have you tried scoring YGW games instead?
>have to time pickups otherwise your score is lower loleTrash
>>7719329I think it make a fun gameplay mechanic.
>>7719320Just play it like you would play Garegga.
>>7719329>You literally cannot no-miss any of the games he programmed.Yes you can, but you don't want to power up and you don't want to kill anything except the necessary enemies.
New touhou is out lads, time for some fun
>>7719539Im waiting for the translation patch
>>7719285yeah sure, he's totally not been posting in this very thread for the last few days, and totally not the reason why the e-celeb gossiping took over. I believe you
>mfw Charlene posting his Psikyo 1-4 PBs again
>my body is beautiful! Want to take a look?What did she mean by this?
>>7719864the chad 1-4 flails vs. the virgin imaginary 2-ALLs
>>7720081>>7719927>>7719572What shmups are you currently playing? Be honest
>>7719874>Koh and Roger: "NO!"What did the boys mean by this?
>>7720136touhou 18 of course
>>7720136I was playing Ketsui and GG Aleste II last night. I'm procrastinating from work atm.
>>7720151You get a pass>>7720147Someone shoot this asshole
>>7719864He also made a thread in EOJs site showing off his DFK novice runs.
>>7720136The weak virgin spic NEET fears the strong minded american Chadlene with the huge dong
>more gossipsI-I s-swear I'm not Ric... 100% amigo...
>>7720257Expanding his brand. Charlene joins niche communities like retro shmups, does bare minimum playing for appearances, socializes, streams , links social media...next releases some SHITE product (game?) And has instant customers (pity purchases). Do this in multiple communities, expand your brand>>7719927Let it go. Or better yet go play Strikers 1945 yourself and get a 2ALL.>>7719329Not so fast. Don't jump to conclusions before giving YGW games a chance.
>>7720293Sure thing slicky ricky
>>7720293>Let it go.Ah, the good old Perikles trick.Btw, wot u play as you're totally not Ric.
Ric, more commonly known as "the retard":manletgreasyskinny fatsmoll peepeepoor & NEETfakes the clearsshit scoareswants to fit in but is rejected by allclaims to be permarangedbanned on 4chin while he posts 24/7BTFO by BIL and Softdrink (among others)streams jarpigs (plays jarpigs)useless for the shmup communityinferior to Kraut as Cee's sidekickbanned everywhereLARP as various trannies to sneak inpoor & smells bad (gyppo)virginCHADlene:tall & rippedcarries a huge schlongpopularproactive & productivemakes money from videogamesopens the long overdue shmup wikiuseful for the shmup communityplays for fun and is confident about itplays based fighting games as wellrichhas sex
>>7720549>carries a huge schlongproof?
>>7720557Subscribe to the onlyfans sweety. It's worth it.
>>7720549I have no idea who are those two. Sometimes I even wonder why I try to post in general threads, it always becomes a celebrity praise/hate thread and less about what the general should be.
>>7720579They are posted by people who btfo by the jarpig slayer, even the guy already long gone but the scars is too deep to be healed lmao>less about what the general should beWon't happen. It will end up with progress and people here are paranoid with doxx, because the community is too small we can spot who is who.
>>7720726>who btfo by the almighty jarpig slayer>it's just games brah*deletes replays**deletes channel**disappears from discord*
>>7720726You got kicked the fuck out of the discord you shilled for during MONTHS on /vr/. By Softdrink. LOL
Is Cave really that good? Every game of theirs seems to have some major flaw or multiple flaws that make me not take it seriously
>>7720807>YouLet it go
>>7720790>*deletes replays*he made it private>*deletes channel*his twitch still up>>7720807>kickedhe left by his own, not kickedI can understand the reason, gus is too soft to everyoneputting lies in facts, I know your narrative is to kill the jarpig slayer existence, keep going lmao
>>7721572they are good games, or at least many of them are. It depends on how 'seriously' you take them. For most of them they are well-designed for survival 1cc's, and a few of them are pretty good for simple scoring as well.>>7721610>he
>>7721572Let's stay on topic or post those 2Alls you claim.
>>7721696When did I ever claim 2-alls? You're thinking of someone else
>>7721701It's just games, ric
>>7721713I'm not ric dummyFor a start I actually play shmups luhmowAnd I'm not an insane spaniard
>>7721716So why would you make a stupid distraction post in the middle of an important discussion? Happens like clockwork and isn't fooling anyone.
>>7721761???I just woke up and wanted to ask about CaveAre you actually seething someone is discussing shmups in the shmup thread
lmao post your Strikers 2Alls or go back to your Shmupmonkey containment cord and rant about Soft being deceptive and mean to you.
>>7721779who are you talking to anon
>>7690153TAS wasn’t a thing back then
It's just games brah
>>7721781Ignore Strikers2all-kun, he is mentally ill and obsessed with a person that shamed him for playing RPGs, so now he can't stop posting about him here on /vr/ and seeing him everywhere.
>>7691512Based illiterate retard
>>7721810Question for ric, you claim 7000 hours of shmup practice and multiple Strikers 2 Alls, yet a simple Daioh 2 ALL is taking close to another 7000 hours to complete. Explain. Should've taken a few weeks max couple months.
>>7721845>7000 hourswhat the fuck lmao
>>7721845He plays 20mins a week due to his busy cord posting farm spying schedule. Seething at soft, char and kz is a full time job>>7721572All games and companies will have flaws question is does the good outweigh the bad? For Cave it does, give them another chance and you'll find some you like
>>7721865>For Cave it does, give them another chance and you'll find some you likeDoubt. Ikeda was trash at designing shmups.
>>7721893So is Yagawa
>>7721923Makes sense he went to go work for Ikeda, then, innit
>>7721923would rather play fagawashit over kikedashit desu, at least the rank system keeps things spicy.
>>7718791If you like Konami try Sexy Parodius or Trigon>>7721851it's documented lol
>>7721950>documented>some schizo says "it should be"come on retard
>>7721968what's real in your head is the funny part
>>7721845>yet a simple Daioh 2 ALL is taking close to another 7000 hours to complete.A Daioh 2-all no-miss is much, much harder than 2-alling any of the Psikyo games.
I like shmups and would like to discuss them but these are almost certainly the most cancerous, off topic, awful threads on /vr/ which is no small feat. Why are so many of you like this?
>>7721979tardo's conflations are always a wonderfirst it was 'i 2all'd strikers 1945' then it became 'i 2all'd strikers trilogy'first it was 'i played tatsujin ou with save states' then it was 'i 1all'd tatsu it isn't that hard'first it was 'i am going for daioh 2all' then it was 'i no miss 2all gayoh'
>>7721989It's literally a cabal of discord schizos.They all talk about drama in the discord and what other players are doing instead of playing fucking games
>>7721979 HERE COMES THE COPE It's been 8 months, forget the nm there isn't even a full clear and thats all jajajaja "plays" come on son>>7721923at least YGW has an artistic flare to his shmups
>>7721950Great graphics but unfortunately I'm not really a fan of Parodius because of Gradius syndrome. I'm more a fan of Irem, Toaplan, Compile, Cave and Zun. Its just the option system in Gradius style games is a bit too unforgiving. Sure the same is true of R-Type, and Abadox which I do like but it takes far less to power up so death is far less punishing.
I remember the one stream I saw of tardos was>emulated>turbofire>fucking gradius>he still died
>>7722000Irem games are pretty notorious for fucking you over if you die to be honest senpai. Gradius syndrome is more for Gradius 3, the other games aren't nearly as brutal for recovery unless you're going for higher loops
>>7721950 >TrigonI didn't read that one in my initial response. Trigon looks comfy. Thanks for the suggestion.
>>7721996Funnier still is one month after he picked up Daioh he says: 'I could try showing a Daioh 2-ALL for the event btw.' 8 months later still nothing.
I could show you my garegga max rank 10-all nmnb but i wont
>>7722017No problem, lots of japanese are pushing Trigon in secret but the westie scene is sleeping on it
>>7722012>5 options that you need to manually activate, later options requier more power-ups to toggle on>many different options at the start of the game with little to now expiation which are more useful. >100 percent memorization because your ship moves slow as molasses>no auto fire so you have to mash buttons to not only fire but also drop bombs IDK, I've never even enjoyed the original Gradius let alone any of the other games in the series. I felt the same way about the first two Darius games, but G-Darius and Darius Gaiden are kino so I like them way more then Gradius. In fact I always sorta felt Gradius games are one of the reasons shmups never became more popular because when most people think of the genre they think of games like Gradius. R-type games are not nearly as brutal. In fact I'd rather play Galaga before playing Gradius. IMHO
>>7722039All those issue resolve themselves if you learn to play Gradius games beyond the first stage
>>7722053yes and I've never learned to do that because all those issue have made playing the game unbearably unfun.
>>7722039Not everyone's cut out for hard recovery games, lad. That's why there's Cave.
>>7722038best game. ive gotten 3m through testing but its still 40-50k off what tuii has been posting
>>7722062>>7722062>kill chain of enemies to get power-up>Grab speed or miss next chain to get next power-up>Kill red enemies to get more power-ups>but power-ups are just options, so you better chose the right one>but don't grab too many or your reset to the begging of the list without getting any benefits>Die>the checkpoint is after 4+ opportunists to power up and opportunities to get back on track are minimal>might as well reset because your fuckedperhaps, its not all old-school shmups. Just games with that particular system seem to require pure memorization to a absurd degree that I could only imagine remembering if I grew up playing it like I grew up playing Super R-Type and Abadox.
>>7722039>100 percent memorization because your ship moves slow as molassesIn less than 5 seconds into the game you can increase your ship's speed.
>>7690548you have good taste
>>7722037Garegga doesn't loop, you can only get a 1-ALL in it...
>>7690153It is a genre I never been into but always respected. I know that sounds nerdy but all I am saying is I recognize them as quality retro games deserving of being played. I want to eventually just sit down for a few months and go at it playing a ton of these games in a marathon. I've at least played and beaten a few of these games.Shmups are good.
>>7722249You didn't know Garegga has a secret 2nd loop?
>>7721995Most of the shit that's discussed here happenned on 4chan, newfag
>>7721610*If* you're not ric, you shouldn't defend him like this, documenting his life and shit, it's gay and you're making a fool out of you
>>7722228but that's just the issue. I just looked up a walk-through because of this conversation and every single one says.>Better upgrade your speed twice>then get Options and perhaps next "?">then get Laser after having at least two Options>once your powered up the rest of the game is cake>...as long as you memorize the places to sit and cheese the bosses>unless you die, then your fucked and you might as well start from the beginingAny other order your essentially dead>get Laser first?>Your fuckedI just don't see how that's fun. But I'll give it another shot. Maybe I'll get gud and have a change of heart.
Galaga 88 is actually pretty great. Addictive, almost to the point of annoyance. Presentation holds up surprisingly well, too. And the alternate routes make it very replayable. I get done with the game, and I immediately start itching for more. Was never crazy about the early Galagas but this one is doing it for me.>>7722039>>7722094You aren't the only one who isn't into Gradius. I can't get into it for exactly the reasons you listed. The Life Force version is supposed to be more forgiving since you can at least recapture options (but not other power ups) after dying, but I've never once managed to do it. Seems like something that's more there for player 2 to take advantage of.
>>7690548DDP:DFK > DDP > DoDonPachi DaiOuJou > Espgaluda > Dangun Feveron > Deathsmiles > mushihime-san futari > Mushihimesama > DDP:SOJ > Progear > Espgaluda II > Guwange Hate putting Guwange in last, still like that game a lot.
>>7690153Total awesome Gamers? yeah. i'm a Totally awesome gamer.
>>7722459Might be under Guwange. I keep trying it but I just can't get in to it.
>>7722459what's the appeal of donpach it's pretty boring at the start
>>7722614I'm moderately new at shmups but I like the balance DonPachi has. It's like this inbetween that's neither bullet hell or traditional shmup. It's not too overwhelming but still gets challenging and exciting and hectic enough to be enjoyable. I don't know of too many other games with that tradshmup/bullethell balance, maybe Battle Garrega but the scaling difficulty makes that one more overwhelming. Sorcer Striker might be a good example of something similar, that has a balance of bullet density sort of like DonPachi's. Maybe being a bit new to the genre is part of it, I like a small dash of ego food to warm up before the game starts kicking my ass.Plus I just really like the aesthetics. Visual design and sound design are really charming, and the narrator is great. The style and everything just screams 'classic arcade action' in a certain nostalgic way, but there's enough going on that it feels fresh and detailed. In this surface level 'flavor' regard I like it more than any other shmup I've tried so far, and as shallow as it might sound that really does go a very, very long way.Just a feelgood game I can slide into whenever. I always have a good time with it.
>>7722645are you actually new or do you just suck at the genre?
>>7722651A little of column A, a little of column B.
>>76901501. Gameplay that in some way is dictated by random numbers generating, aka rolling dice to determine outcomes either physically or simulated by a machine itself2. Character creation and/or customization of characters3. The ability to level up through the gaining of experience points earned in battles or doing tasks
>>7722696sounds hot, what's the game called?
>>7722696The newest touhou fits that pretty well.
mfw so good at shmups that survival runs take too long to get interesting and fun. Guess I have to take the Cave (or Raizing) pill now.
>>7722365DDP way lower, replace DOJ and DFK, and Progear and Guwange should be replaced.
>>7722852You will NEVER be Japanese, and you will NEVER put high scores on their cabinets, gaijin baka yarou.
I did my first no miss in star parodia, but now I'm not sure what to try next. I would prefer another cute em up.
>>7722852>Guess I have to take the Cave (or Raizing) pill now.no way, shmups don't need elaborate scoring to have fun scoring. More important is do you enjoy the stages, the ships and playing the game itself.Look at speedrunners they speedrun games that weren't even designed for it, and the concept is simple just ''do it faster'' yet it adds infinite replay value and tons of optimizations. You can sore Konami, Psikyo even old simple shmups just fine and the difficulty will increase a ton
>>7722880Mamorukun Curse, Detana Twinbee, any Parodius, Pocky & Rocky, Sisters Royale
>>7722365You should try out Ketsui.
>>7722852if you're going to score Cave try Progear, for Raizing try Dimahoo. Cool to do games fewer western players have pushed
I don't like routing
>>7722249No trust me my friend who got a 15-ALL in Batsugun verified it
>>7722852lmfao surepost stream
>>7690153He's got a point
>>7690153True video game enthusiasts
>>7722331The only thing I upgrade first is speed, the rest I do whatever I want. I have done many 1 life complete and also prefer to die in hard parts and then try to recover(it's the best thing in the game since it requires skill, memorization only works when you ship is upgraded to the max) from that situation. You don't even need to upgrade speed(have done that many times), but will have to accept how slow the ship is.
>>7722331>>7722039If you were complaining about the Cube section in G3 or recovery in specific hard spots fine, but you're complaining about basic bitch shit that beginners figure it in a day or two of playing...
>>7723215>in a day or two of playingyou mean "in a credit or two"and the guy seems to be talking about original gradius, which only has one ship and with self-explanatory upgrade names, you can't really be confused by that (dude I really wonder what "laser" does)probably never actually played the game more than 5 seconds
>>7722885>Sisters RoyalePretty good game even if it looks a little like mobile shovelware. Extremely forgiving for survival and hard to score. Which is not a terrible balance.
>>7723032How many loops are there in Batsugun Special?
>>7722885>Mamorukun CurseI should have bought this game on release, the physical copies are over 100 bucks now.
>>7723304Its without a doubt an issue that I'm most familar with in the original but it seems to be true in most gradius and gradius style games. >two power ups just to get to proper speed>but don't speed up after two or you'll move too fast>need 5 power ups to unlock your first option >need and additional 5 to unlock a second option>unlocking additional options will increase your rank>Double cost 3 power ups>Laser cost 4 power ups>Laser and Double don't stack so you need to collect several power ups to switch and now which power-up is best for each section>Once your powered up all you really need to worry about it refilling your "?" shieldYes, I'm sure once you memorize a rough to get powered up its not so bad, but my god man there is no other shooter I can think of that is that punishing. Like I said, once I git gud, I might change my opinion, but that shit is not clear nor is it fun before you learn this esoteric bs.
>>7723496Cool but where are the 2Alls?
>>7721779>shmupmonkey containment cordHow do you know?
>>7723560i'm not Ric bro, I don't larp as a pro. I just like fun danmaku and a handful of classic shooters like R-Type, Blazing Lazer and Serei Senshi Spriggan.
>>7723603just realized Ric isn't in that place anymore or Ultramania. Huh, wonder what happened.
>>7723621>>7723621wait so shmupmonkey IV doesn't hide liars & posers anymore? wow
>>7723626Rumor has it that the folks there instituted a new rule that if you claimed to 2all a shmup you needed to show some proof, which made tardo go into hiding. Baseddrink cucking him out of gusyphus' hole was the killing blow that sent him into meltdown mode.
>>7723758that's a big old OOF me thinks
invite me to monkey cord
ghosting in septic thread
Gentlemen, I announce to you all that the jarpig jihad is over. You will no longer deadname the user formerly known as Synthricardo and now refer to her by her new name, StarBlossom89.