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I'll start
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>>7620640
It only got that reputation because it's impossible to play it on an LCD screen. Was tough but care on CRT.
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>>7620816
Because of lag? I actually beat it originally on sega I think on CRT
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>>7620816
No, it's not. I've beaten this game multiple times on an LCD. This stage has always had that reputation.
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>>7620824
Yeah it's programmed with pretty much no respect for input lag so if you're not on a CRT it goes from being tough but fair to complete bullshit.

Used to beat it all the time as a kid but trying to play it on a 60hz LED screen was almost impossible. Wasn't nearly as hard as the fucking Clinger Winger though. Pretty sure I only made it past that level two or three times in my life.
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>>7620857
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kjJHcfk-ZYI&feature=emb_title
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>>7620816
It's got that reputation because most nintoddler gaymurs have impaired motor function
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>>7620897
Not sure what I'm supposed to see here, but I just went and played this on my modded Wii on an LCD screen and had no trouble beating it. Unless I'm missing something here or the "impossible on an LCD" thing is a meme, I don't get it. It seems perfectly fine to me. And I definitely remember this stage being the infamous stage that no one could get through before LCDs even existed.
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hey guise i am just gonna chill here for a bit hope you don't mind
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>>7620962
He posted his favorite russian speedtranny so odds are he's a russkie and literally didn't understand what you typed out
Besides you're absolutely correct. I could beat it with a second of delay wiht some practice. the level is piss easy
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>>7620962
It's because people on /vr/ always have severely outdated ideas of LCDs. An older, totally obsolete LCD, has significant amounts of input delay. A modern one has 2 to 5 milliseconds and this isn't a problem for them.
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>>7620640
It's the rest of the game for me. The bike's easy so long as you aren't palsied and your input lag isn't fucked.
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>>7620640
>>7620816
>>7620824
>>7620857
>>7620956
It's 100% impossible to beat this level without replaying it over and over and memorizing it. Especially the ending where you do not even get a heads-up over their position.

I don't think I even ever beat this level outside of an emulator. I'd always take the warp on accident.
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>>7620942
Eh, I think there are harder parts and then the king of filter would be the corridor before or of Death.
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>>7621163
>It's 100% impossible to beat this level without replaying it over and over and memorizing it.
Wrong. I remember on my first tries getting pretty far and on first tries of last checkpoint doing pretty well. The pattern is fucking clear: the walls alternate position.

>I don't think I even ever beat this level outside of an emulator. I'd always take the warp on accident.
Normie filtered.
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>>7621163
The game sucks. but there are people here who are literally going to eat shit. for''own the libs ''
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>>7621163
The fast walls at the end may not give you the blinking warning beforehand, but they start slow and then get progressively faster and they're always alternating, so that's definitely enough of a warning. You don't need to memorize it. I hadn't played it in years and only had a vague idea of what to expect and I still got through it pretty quickly earlier today.

>>7621196
Did you really lose so hard in Turbo Tunnel that you hate Battletoads? It's a great game with tons of variety and really fun level design. It's easily one of the most memorable games on the NES.
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>>7621169
That's why it's a **normie >>7620640 filter.
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>>7620640
This is pretty easy but it instantly becomes nightmare mode in co-op where it's infamy properly belongs to.
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>>7621163
The fast bits are just alternating so you dont really need a heads up. I got through on my second game.
the real issue is beating it without dying consistently enough so you can go on and finish the game.

>>7621196
the game is great. Progressing through it is satisfying as fuck, and once you beat it it is still challenging enough for regular revisits.

Also it's beautiful
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The parts where you rappel is a bigger filter, fuck those birds
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>>7620640
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>>7620640
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>>7621743
>BTFOs casuals
>instantly filters out fake waifufags
Based Umi.
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>>7620640
Video games only, anon. Your pic related is trash that belongs in a landfill.
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>>7620816
Wrong. What youtuber lied to you kiddie?
The game requires information you can't possibly know unless you played it before. No this isn't just about the barriers either.
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>>7622212
>No this isn't just about the barriers either.
Then what is it about? What obstacle doesn't give you time to react unless you know it's there. Go ahead and tell us.
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>>7620640
SNES Battletoads had a more difficult speeder bike level. I would always fall into this pit and think maybe I didn't jump high enough. No. You're suppose to mash jump even when you fall into a pit...
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>>7622353
SNES Battletoads had harder versions of everything. The vertical stage had that drop at the end with the spikes on the sides, the clinger-wringer equivalent had sections where you had to jump or duck under things, and the Rat Race level had that free-fall section where if you failed to catch the rat and hit it in midair you'd lose. It's still probably slightly easier just because it's shorter and you can get so many extra lives in the bonus stages, but the stages themselves definitely feel harder.
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>>7622383
>SNES Battletoads had harder versions of everything.
I found jumping out of pits more cryptic and only discovered it by luck.
>The vertical stage had that drop at the end with the spikes on the sides
I loved that drop. Better than Earthworm Jims spike drop stage.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QO6TnPX11vk&list=PLA90CC2EE74CAA109&index=2
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>>7620640
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>>7622383
>>7622412
Battlemaniacs was extremely boring for me.
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>>7622246
Based, was going to post this
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>>7622437
You had 4 turtles for fucks sake. I would pass this stage but it would decimate my forces.
>>7622434
Let me guess you prefer Yoshis Island?
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>>7622456
No, I prefer Bt and Bt&DD.
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>>7622467
I also prefer NES Battletoads but how can you say the 2nd stage of Battlemaniacs is boring? It beats any other version by a mile.
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>>7622434
The only boring part to me is the bonus stages. They just take so long to get through. But aside from that it's fine. I do prefer the NES game, but Battlemaniacs is good too.
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>>7620640
I guess this doesn't count because it won't actually filter anyone
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>>7621176
I don’t believe you. You have had to hear of this level before you attempted it or seen other people do it. No one on their first try get all the way through.
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>>7622545
Boobeam Trap is the real filter
t. filtered out by them the first time I played the game
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>>7622545
How many of you plebs looked up the glitch instead of fighting it properly like a real Chad?
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>>7622710
>glitch
It's literally an intended mechanic. Actual chads incorporate it into their skillset as a display of their total mastery and control over the game.
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>>7622720
A true chad isn't concerned with having total mastery and control over a game. A true chad would just win without even knowing that the glitch exists.
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>>7622548
Didn't see anything before, or at least didn't remember it at the time of playing. I didn't get through on my first try, it still tool a lot of continues but I would constantly go passed a lot of shit on the first try
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>>7621163
>on accident
>on
>I don't think I even ever beat this level outside of an emulator.
I know that you're already constantly reminded of this, but you and your generation are embarrassingly retarded
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>>7623063
I wouldn't really call the end section of a game a filter. If anything, when the grunts turn up is probably the actual normie filter. if not that, when black ops turn up. Way before Xen.
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>>7620816
>>7620882
>>7621163
Shit players in this thread.

I beat Battletoads many times on the NES when I was playing it as a kid. I did many many no warp runs.

A couple years ago I loaded it up on an emulator. After a couple failed runs, on my third attempt or so I beat it again without warps.

Let me guess, you also think Quick Man was a difficult stage?
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>>7623671
Any NES game like Battletoads is harder on a laggy set up.
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People aren't denying that Battletoads requires trial and error to beat, right? Because that'd be a stupid thing to say.
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>>7623747
Maybe on some places but not on most and definitely not on turbo tunnel.

Like if you have some cybersports athlete with high reaction speed and hyper focus he'd likely beat the level on the first try. It's just that most people aren't gonna be able to due to lack of focus, etc. But that's what makes it challenging
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>>7623754
Battlemaniacs turbo tunnel filtered me for YEARS.
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>>7623754
"hyper focus" isn't gonna help when you don't know what you're required to do beforehand. Like, how is blindingly fast reaction speed supposed to help on the snakes? On the Rat Race? Or on that fucking leap of faith into the spike pit on Terra Tubes? Hell, on Volkmire's Inferno, you are already dead at some parts if you don't position yourself correctly before you can even see where the walls will come next.
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>>7623759
Not talking about that here.

>>7623760
As far as I can remember, there's enough time on snakes, rat race and inferno to react. Nuance is: there's BARELY enough time and inevitably you gonna fuck up a lot. Basically you compensate for you mediocre reflexes with the knowledge of the level. That's how good games work
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>>7623747
You could make the argument that some parts of Terra Tubes would require trial and error, but definitely not Turbo Tunnel. All of the visual cues are very clear. And no part of the game requires you to actually memorize the stage's layout.
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>>7623767
Warps were tricky to find first go round.
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>>7623762
That's not reacting at that point. That's using your knowledge of past failures to prevail through parts that are designed to be barely beatable even with said knowledge. The literal definition of trial and error.

What you are trying to argue is that it's POSSIBLE IN THEORY to beat the stages on the first try, even if it's never gonna really happen in practice. Even the best godgamers on earth requires knowhow of the stages before they beat them. What sets them apart from lesser skilled players is how many tries it takes them to do so.
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>>7623063
>>7623145
what usually gets people in half life is On a Rail, it's where everyone gets bored of the game
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>>7620640
tank controls
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>>7623762
Not him but inferno has some lasers you absolutely need prior knowledge for. The later ones that open up/close down
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>>7623776
I don't get this. Tank controls should take you a few minutes to pick up and after an hour they should become muscle memory.
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>>7623772
> What you are trying to argue is that it's POSSIBLE IN THEORY to beat the stages on the first try

That's right. Trial and error on the other hand means that there's no way of knowing beforehand what you should do - e.g. leaps of faith or bombing every wall hoping there's a secret without any hints.

Battletoads is all about building skill. Sure knowledge of levels helps just with every game but ultimately you never need to guess.
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>>7623794
I'm pretty sure they blink before hand like walls in 3rd level
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i remember watching my ex, laughing hysterically, as she tried to puzzle this out for like 20 mins lmao
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>>7623821
Even if they do, your speedbike doesn't move fast enough for you to move into position after you've reacted to them.
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My go-to filter is the helicopter in Viewtiful Joe, either you beat it in 20 seconds because you understood the game's core mechanic, or you get mad and return the game.
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>>7623828
>Viewtiful Joe
Gay
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>>7623831
>hates the dark souls of retro gaming
fagg
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>>7623832
Dark Souls doesn't look like it's for 6yo gurls
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>>7623821
the ones that close/ open up don't. the later beeping ones do
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>>7620964
i accidentally your time limit
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>>7623835
Well that 6yo gurl is fucking awesome and redpilled and you suck cocks.
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>>7623823
Not really a noob filter, just a button check to ensure the player knows how to run.
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>>7620640
All retro games are a filter for
normalfags.
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>>7620640
Guess "normie filter" means trial/error/memorization garbage now.
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>>7620640
The platforming in Doom, Half-Life, and Quake, all filter normalfags hard.

>>7620816
No, it was pretty hard, there's probably very few people in the world who have beaten that segment without dying at least once in their life to it, but it's certainly doable with practice.

>>7621196
>for''own the libs ''
I beg your pardon?
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>>7622246
This segment is kind of frustrating, especially if you panic and rush, but once you get a feel for the controls it's doable. I did it back when I was like, seven or something.

>>7622275
Based. Still love that analog stick, lacks comfort and durability, but the precision is supreme.

>>7623063
I'll never stop being bewildered at plebs and normalfags insisting that the platforming here is so difficult and bothersome, Quake and Half-Life (which is based on Quake's engine), are permissive as fuck with the player's movement.
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>>7624179
>he cant turbo tunnel
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>>7622246
That was trivial.

Now, the 'one tile no-jump'. That was bullshit. I remember replaying it two dozen times hoping the cartridge will "unbug" because once I managed to cross it by accident so I knew it can be done.

Only years later, due to sheer accident, I found out you just walk over it. Never beat the game anyway that level sucked the life out of me.
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>>7622710
>looked up the glitch
What glitch?
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>>7621743
How? The only difficult parts in the entire series are some of the later levels in Shun.
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>>7623063
This filters normalfags because they literally can't into long jumps. The sheer complexity of the keyboard combination baffles them.
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>>7624179
Well, a normie would give up before he had memorized that part. So yeah, a normie filter.
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>>7624369
Hurr everything is easy.
You know this game is basically intended to be played like a spedrun, a few mistakes pile up and can cost you the good ending.
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>>7624363
> he doesn't know
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>>7622720
>It's literally an intended mechanic
>capcom intended for you to be able to pause buffer through the bosses i-frames
thats one of the dumbest things ive ever read
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>>7624370
But I'm dumb as shit and I figured that out as a kid, that can't be the reason.
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I think a lot of you fail to realize that when Battletoads originally came out, you may have had two or three years of experience playing video games. Yeah, you may think Battletoads is easy... after having played videogames on a regular basis for 20+ years.
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Fuck that level only have made it past it a few times. Wonder if the devs did that to make people question their sanity.
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>>7622545
>>7622551
>Yellow Devil and Boobeam Trap are the filters
Wrong
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>>7624531
Nobody thinks it's easy they are humble bragging.
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stage 7 in Castlevania III is filtering me hard right now

holy shit why is this game so difficult
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>>7625340
this
the game is the definition of difficult
sure, one can be very good at it, but even the speedtrannies who play it thousands of times get n00bed out every once in a while, because that game is just merciless

anyone who claims that battletoads is "easy" is full of shit.
the massive variety of gameplay styles alone means that you need to be quite a versatile player to even attempt to beat it. and the execution on many of the levels are INCREDIBLY tight

>>7625517
this is a known feel
by far the hardest in the whole series imo
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>>7625537
for real though
some of these rooms are absolutely impossible unless you just fly through it as alucard

do they really expect you to be able to clear those as trevor?
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>>7625569
if you want a slightly easier time still fucked tho, try playing the nip version.
grant is REALLY OP in that version. his main attack is a knife projectile, which makes a lot of the bosses easier, and his mobility while jumping and climbing makes him able to basically break the game in quite a few different places

>do they really expect you to be able to clear those as trevor?
no not really
theres always a way to trev through, but it seems they designed a lot of the later stages to force you to try to master the alternate characters
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>>7625337
Given how many threads get made about Boobeam Trap, it's definitely the real filter
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>>7623823
This one fucked me. I should have read the manual first.
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>>7620640
Castlevania II: Simon's Quest. I unironically love it. Honorable mentions are Zelda II and Ninja Gaiden
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>>7626036
absolutely patrician
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>>7620640
It's just a very difficult game and has nothing to do with being or not being a normalfag.
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>>7626186
If you don't progress past 3rd level you are confirmed normie
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>>7626036
simon's quest is garbage though, CV1 and CV3 are much better. Great music though.

t.beat them for the first time ever last week
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On NES:

Ghost n Goblins
Ninja Gaiden
Super Mario Bros 2 (Japan)
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>>7627502
I think you guys are missing the point: it has to be a SEGMENT
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>>7627509
Any segment in Ghosts n Goblins.
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>>7627502
Some parts of Ninja Gaiden really filtered me. the second part of 6-2 above the pit really did for a long time. Still can't get past the second to last boss desu.
I'm a certified pleb.
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>>7620640
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>>7627456
That's completely arbitrary.
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>>7621163
Kids these days "memorization bad"

Go commit bathtub toaster.
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>>7620640
Man I'm replaying this game now and while I got through 3rd level quickly enough the fifth level is kicking my ass even at the very beginning. What the fuck
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>>7627941
You're no longer twelve. Your reactions slowed down, anon.
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>>7627947
What the fuck are you talking about? I'm not even 26 yet
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>>7627997
The moment you found out your inner wolf likes other wolves, things have changed.
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>>7628048
Can't tell if trying to be /tv/ level profound or legit schizo
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>>7628062
I can't help you if you can't focus on beating the level because intrusive thoughts of getting rammed by giant schlongs are distracting you, anon. You need to sign up for one of those gay camps.
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>>7627997
>I'm not even 26 yet
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>>7627947
I'm turning 29 this year, and I'm better at vidya than ever. It's all in your habit and training.
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>>7620640
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>>7624385
Seems to be useless if I finished that game without knowing it.
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>>7628446
By that standard, every glitch is useless.
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>>7628235
Most pros start considering retiring around that age, much like in real sports. Can't keep up with the kind of beating your wrists can take when you're in the late teens to mid twenties. And you don't learn as fast anymore.
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>>7628450
I'm glad we can agree with that.
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>>7628628
Sounds like quitters coping.
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>>7628995
>quitters
>when you're playing pro grinding ranked games for 8+ hours daily, constant pressure on maintaining focus and staying ahead of the curve
>the only payout is from actually winning or at least coming close to the top 3 in tournaments
>all this while your body literally starts giving out from sedentary lifestyle while teenagers grind for literal dozens of hours on the daily no problem and learn faster than you due to age
The only way you can compete at that point is if you have psychopath tier composure under stress or if you've been grinding the game since you were 15 and have a decade of experience. Being "good at vidya" also doesn't matter because every dumb video game is like its own martial art with different dynamics except every little kid can do it with no hard work.
Video games are literally the worst hobby to pick up as a competitive thing because you need no motivation to do it - idiots do it for free to pass the time and get dopamine hits. And that means little kids with actual genetic ability will be able to outcompete you.
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>>7629378
Well, I ain't grinding a high speed shmup for 8 hours a day just in pursuit of some score or time, I'm playing games for my personal enjoyment, like always.

As a kid, I was dogshit at games, but I'm better at videogames than I've ever been these days, I enjoy greater challenges, and when a game goes too easy on me, it disappoints me, and I crave more challenge from it (either through options, different level sets, or mods, depending on the kind of game). I'm not the most hardcore guy around, but I'd like to think I'm pretty decent at my favorite game, and I think I can continue to get better even if I'll never be some legendary grandmaster.
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>>7620640
if you're Russian you know this
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>>7629407
Don't care about your blog, your original statement is painfully false. Age is everything.
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>>7631032
I'm not the original poster.



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