Yuzo published one of the faxes Sega of America sent him regarding Streets of Rage 2 development.
1991> niggas don't look nigga enough2021> niggas look too nigga now, people will think this is black face. change it
The SoA guy was referring to this depiction of Sammy (Skate), btw
Why would they be contacting the music guy for this? Seems like bullshit
>>7619653Yuzo's English is really decent for a jap.
>>7619653Yuzo runs Ancient who developed SoR.
>>7619653He's the CEO of the company that developed streets of rage.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ancient_(company)
>>7619607I think what he just meant is that his image needs to be shaded in for the b&w manual.
>>7619589>Pls make Blaze sexy>SoA proceeds to censor one of her sprites
>>>7619589>cardboard "stand-up", a life size image of the four charactersI guess he's talking about picrelated, which also appeared in a lot of magazine reviews of SoR2.
>>7619686This. As usual people are going to jump to conclusions without knowing the context.
>>761969590's clichés: the picture.Amazing.
>>7619607I've not played SOR2 but he looks like a black kid to me.
>can you change the entire appearance of the woman in game to fit the design we slapped together for a cardboard cut outHow did anything get done in games in the 90's? These people have no clue.
>>7619692Censor? More like fixed. Not only did her ass look too wide, but her legs are at all the wrong angles. The redrawn pose looks more action-packed, realistic, AND sexier to boot. It hits all the right notes. Plus it kinda looks like she's going commando which is just plain hot.
>>7619746Spoilers: these idiots are always clueless and always will be.
>>7619692Why do her "uncensored" arms look so mannish?
>Can the character Blaze in the game look like this? >>7619695Looks like they indeed took something from that SoA design. The strapless neckline and the midriff. In the original drawing Blaze resembled more her SoR1-self
>>7619670Honestly, I thought it was a nothing burger in the email, but having seen the picture, I can see their concern.
>>7619695Skate as played by Gary Coleman
>>7619595Adam in SoR1 looks Indian tbqdesu
>>7619937>japs make a human looking black kid>mutts want them to nig up the designNA reading comprehension.
>>7619806That was a good change, and a smart compromise. This design is definitely too Japanese, something you'd see on a Hostess in Yakuza games.
>>7619937lol mad mutt
>>7619695What's Cindy Crawford doing there?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mamWPQp6dEM
>>7619695They still used these designs in the final box art as well.It was interesting back then how this stuff didn't change. There was still this mentality that box art was more of an artist interpretation of the game, though by the time Genesis was out, graphics offered a pretty clear picture of the action, and I always wondered why the characters didn't match up.
>>7619941>>valid criticism>one-word response
>>7620013What do you expect from pol?
>>7619589SEGA operates out of Boca Raton Florida?
>>7619746Have you worked in any creative industry? It’s still EXACTLY THE SAME as this
>Additional note: great Cody fanart, don't change a thing>>7619998I like boxart Maxtry to picture any of those poses in motion though, nothing makes any physical sense at all
>>7619607They said "tough" first and foremost; this image looks like a complete homo. The pose looks like Freddy Mercury.
>>7619938>Adam in SoR1who? what?
>>7621608The black dude and third character.
>>7621642the fucking NIGGER
>>7621583That was the drawing in which he "looked like a white kid", in SoA guy's opinion
>>7621665And yeah because white = faggot
Fax is proof That America already sucked back then, even if everyone outside the USA already knew.
>>7619670That's Rowdy Roddy Piper in a bandana, though.
>>7621979>Fax is proof That America already sucked back thenFunny because the fax was so that the Japanese would receive it since Japan still use fax.
>>7619998Might be retarded but I genuinely never realized the ugly bald guy was supposed to be Max. I see the lightning blots on his pants now, but he looks nothing like Max and is ugly enough to be a generic enemy
>>7621702Pale hands typed this post.
>>7621702white pretty much does equal faggot
>>7621583He's a fucking kid. What are you expecting him to look like?
>>7620052The way it was written implies they were demoing at an event.
>>7619941We got an "enlightened" european over here! Get'm boys!
>>7619589Pretty reasonable requests all around, especially considering this is Sega "Sonic can under no circumstances have a girlfriend because girls have cooties" of America we're talking about here. They've been much more demanding over much pettier matters than a character looking too much like Hulk Hogan.
>>7619753This.>>7619941Seethe and cope, third-worlder.
>>7619692The US one just looks better altogether. This isn't even about her panties showing, this is just a terrible pose in general.
>>7622151>This faggot thinks faxing documents wasn't how all businesses opetated in 1992.Email wasn't used until the late, late 90s for business communication. And FYI faxes are still used in industries requiring immediate responses with signatures on verified documents, such as the medical/pharmacy industry.
>>7622673>And FYI faxes are still used in industries requiring immediate responses with signatures on verified documents, such as the medical/pharmacy industry.Yeah,I was talking about that with my brother just the other day. Fax machines will never outlive their usefulness as long as businesses are still printing documents.
>>7622454is... this a trace of the final scene of Roger Rabbit with Jessica holding Roger?
>>7622719Well I mean, you can't exactly call it a trace when the characters look so different, but yeah, that seems to be what the artist was going for, what with the faux film grain and all.
>>7622724i hope that was a commission, because if thats his own direct work portfolio, thats terrible....
>>7619589Americans have been fucking up Japanese games forever now. Almost everything they try to make themselves is shit and yet they can't keep their retarded mouths shut about actual good games The changes in that fax are minor compared to all of the atrocious localizations that have plagued the medium since 3rd gen, but it's interesting to see them laid out like that in writing
>>7622673>Email wasn't used until the late, late 90s for business communicationHoly fucking zoom! I was using email for business in the 80's and the oldest address I still have is from 96. Exactly how young are you kiddo? I might have an email address older than you.
>>7623005who gives a fuck what you have?fax is still a major document transmission format in Japan alone.
>>7623358>zoomie gets caught bullshitting>copes and deflectspottery
>>7619692I would like to see the fax in which Sega of Europe said "no need to change that in our version, we're not fags".
who tf is sammy?sorry, posted in wrong thread
>>7622764No... it really, really isn't, and I'd wager anything you can't actually explain why it's terrible.
>>7623456When Europe bothered to make their own versions, they were usually better than the US trash we sometimes got when they took the lazy route.
>>7619589Genesis sells good for a couple of and now Americans think they own the place, also lets use the girl character as wank material.
>>7622826What I would give to see the faxes for Ristar, aka quite possibly the most pointless "localization" I've ever seen.
>>7621654oooh, now I remember.
What about the Don't Walk guy though?
>>7619753I mean, it IS censorship; the proto matches it, the devs were surprised they had to change it, and the unlockable version of this game's Blaze in Streets of Rage 4 uses the upskirt sprite but go figure heaven forbid Mr. X smoke tobacco. Having said that, you and others are right that the original is too clunky and the touched-up version is more aesthetically pleasing. I know this because the devs agreed and also used the edited pose as the basis for the Bare Knuckle III / Streets of Rage 3 sprite. It's literally the best of both worlds: dynamic yet uncensored.
>>7624312Streets of Rage 3 was a whole another set of cans when it came to censoring.
I know it's not /vr/-related but there are some sweet news about Streets of Rage 4 right now. Check /v/ for more.
>>7624071what happened to ristar?>>7623595I mean, why else would you add girls to games?
>>7624595https://tcrf.net/Prerelease:Ristar_(Genesis)character was too gay
>>7624595>>7624602https://tcrf.net/Ristar_(Genesis)/Regional_DifferencesOh yeah american ristar is pissed
>>7624534>Check /v/not happeningspoiler, it's 3 DLC characters including Estel the lesbian cop enemy. fingers crossed that no additional niggers will be added. srsly just draw some more Max sprites.
>>7624635Why does SoR4 have so many niggers and tumblr hairs? The one upside is that you get to beat all of them.
>>7624712To be fair it fits the thug punk aesthetic.
>>7624712They wanted Joe Musashi to be playable but Sega forbade it. So much for representation, #StopAsianHate. There's rejected concept art of a jailbait waifu rollerblader. In conclusion I don't know. I like the new Adam design but his tumblr daughter is the most awful generic tumblr hipster nigger design I've ever seen in my life. Only reason to pick her is put down the controller and watch the cop enemies taser her.
>>7624712Not be the grumpy person, but I really dislike the character design of SOR4. Axel looks not like the cody but in cool anymore but like a hobo. Blaze is "thicc" and the other characters look super cheap and just to go for the lowest common denominator. Like many new character designs that get created these days. The new DLC character confirms me in my thoughts. I have zero issue with black characters by the way, I'am not a white american.
>>7624794Axel looks like a convict so it's exactly like modern cody.
>>7624807Like a hobo, the stupid beard is the icing on the cake. I don't get why they have to add beards to every male character these days.
>>7624312That jump kick has a long history... one of the earlier Bare Knuckle 3 prototypes had a different jump kick sprite as well.Here's footage of it btw:https://youtu.be/p4XJaJtNanE?t=34
>>7624635Annoying Cop-lady, Max and Shiva., but Mr. X's Nightmare also adds a new campaign.>>7624779She's not a bad character to play as though, stupod character design it may be.>>7624794>>7624813The beard is meant to give Chuck Norris vibes.
>>7622826You will never be Japanese
>>7619589I don't care, I don't vote and I'd rather play my video games than read this.
>>7619695I can't lie, I immediately thought of Diddy Kong when I looked.
>>7623456The only instances that comes to mind is the Shinobi X/Legions soundtrack
>>7621702>>7622324When will the day come when FaggotsAndNiggers can get along? https://youtu.be/F2AitTPI5U0?t=60
>>7622649The one with the panties is realistic. The one for the US isn't.
>>7619657Was going to ask this? Source?
>>7624813Beards are great.
>>7622180I got this game for christmas a year after it came out and I always thought he was a Donovan they were beating up or whatever.
>>7624914Diddy isn't a nigger and doesn't wear his cap backwards though
>>7624914More like Diddy Kang
You people will argue about literally anything and everything.Please do yourselves a favor and get a life.
>>7625774If you dont like dealing with no life losers you are on the wrong website.
>>7625719Honestly I think it's the pose more than anything.I swear there is a promo image where he looks like this with the peanut popguns but I can't for the life of me find it.
>>7625774>>7625806I really don't understand why people are discussing old video game topics on the old video game board. On a site made for discussion. It's almost like that's their choice of pastime and that differs from mine which is something I can't understand.
>>7621583By tough-looking, the SoA guy meant Skate dressing like he was in an Ice-T or Kris Kross video instead of looking like he was in the Burger King Kids Club.
>>7622826>Americans have been fucking up Japanese games forever now. >Almost everything they try to make themselves is shit and yet they can't keep their retarded mouths shut about actual good games.Everything you know about how the Japanese American video games is a lie that spawned from VGA IBM-compatibles outselling the Amiga and Argonaut getting buttmad that Nintendo cancelled Star Fox 2 in favor of the Doom port.
>>7619695whatchu talkin bout willisu
>>7627048I can see where somebody would get "dark skinned Indian" looking at him.
>>7623005>Holy fucking zoom! I was using email for business in the 80'sSo you're in your mid 60s to early 70s and talk like a faggot millennial. That all aside, what industry? I'm curious as to how you were using emails for business purposes during an age where the only inter-communication networks were being used exclusively by universities and military, neither of which are businesses. If you really are in your 70s, then I can forgive your doddering old ass confusing emails with TELNETs or intranet communication, but you sure don't act your age.>the oldest address I still have is from 96From what university? Post it, if you're balls are so hairy and wrinkled, grampa. Otherwise I'm sure it's long defunct.>I might have an email older than youYou dont.>>7623443>>zoomie gets caught bullshitting>>copes and deflectsAre you talking about yourself? Because that's exactly what has happened here.No idea why you felt the need to lie so shamelessly over fucking fax machines.
>>7625774arguing incessantly with retards is funwho the fuck are you huh?
>>7627054i mean its nipsthey mightve had a vague idea of what a nog looked like, but i really doubt any of them had ever seen one irl
>>7628007OP's memo might solve the mystery of why Skate looks completely unlike Adam>>7624894those are some fairly low-effort new characters but that's cool anyway
>>7628007Yuzo produced way too much music similar to black artists' R&B and House music to not know what black people looked like.
>>7628064no doubt, and he also spent a lot of time in burger clubs, at least for a jap.but as far as i know he didnt have anything to do with character design in the first game or much of anything outside of its music/sound designancient didnt start until SoR2, as SoJ had no interest in making a follow up, so thats where he wouldve had much more direct inputand the blacks in SoR2 look substantially more believable
>>7621583Fuck you, you have to be tough to take dicks up your ass.
>>7628115really its just a matter of lubrication
>>7624904Yeah, I'm white; even better
>>7619589>it is important he look like Jesus fucking Christ , English isn't even my native language.
>>7628238it works just fine given the context of that sentence desu
>>7619695ngl i love the final version of blaze that ended up in-gamebut i desperately want that blaze to hit me, hold me down, and then tell me what to dopretty clear the artist felt similarly, as the others all look like they were drawn in 5mins
>>7628263Her shoulder to hip ratio is completely fucked not to mention the orangutan arms, at least the others have something resembling actual anatomy
>>7628286>Her shoulder to hip ratio is completely fuckedsheem STRONK
>>7627885I get that you're 30yo NEET who's never had a job, let alone one where they gave you an email address, but I got started much younger than that. What I'm curious about is why you even bothered to reply with ridiculous bullshit about the internet only being used by military/universities in the 80's when anyone can simply google or go on wikipedia and see you're full of shit. Did you think I was going to laugh so hard I'd fall out of my lazboy and break a hip?>From what university?Oh, you sad little child. In 1996 I started a new company. I registered a domain name and setup a server with a website and some email addresses. I still use that email address today.Now run along little child. You have a whole lot of googling to do while you desperately try to come up with some way to explain away reality. I look forward to the impressive display of mental gymnastics and cope.
>>7624894Just catering for american audiences, because they think those characters look "badass".>>7624904You don't have to be a japanese to have this mindset.
>>7628494loldifferent faggot but>tfw older than gramps email addressfeels ok i guessalso1996 was 40 years ago
>>7624138Did this artist do any other SoR pieces? This one is really good.
>>7628238>>7628249it's grammatically correct
>>7627885Not him but can you just stop, you are making a fool of yourself. Seriously, just stop.
>>7627885Embarrassing. Take a look at yourself anon. Calm down.
>>7622147God I miss him so much.
>>7630453Don't worry, you'll meet him again when you HAVE TO THROW HIM OVER THE TOP ROPE IN ORDER TO EARN THE RIGHT TO WRESTLE JESUS FOR ADMITTANCE INTO HEAVEN AT WRESTLEMANIA 316
>>7619692100 hours in MS paint.
>>7630502Suicide is an instant bullet train to hell, anon.
>>7630597Who said anything about suicide? Rowdy Roddy Piper is willing to wait as long as it takes to suplex your ass back to Earth.
>>7619664damn Yuzo was quite based
>>7619664co-developed you mean, with Sega CS. Like how guardian heroes was done by both Sega CS and treasure.
>>7619695Skate looks like he needs a wheelchair.
>>7630894>Can the character Skate look more like that annoying little back kid on diverse masturbations
>>7624635Look mom, I posted it again!
>>7631625Did he hurt you?
>>7631715Hi polBye pol
>>7622147It's more Hogan than Piper and I can see why. I mean most Fire Pro games dealt with Hogan ripoffs to look like pic related but I think SEGA wanted to get lawsuits out of the way.
>>7619741Why are you here? Not just this thread but this board.
>>7632278Because I had a SNES, not a Mega Drive