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>change the region and configuration flags from Dragon based mechacon consoles
>play imports and backups on PS2 without a modchip

Previous thread:
>>7596757
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>>7616489
whats compatibility like with this compared to other things?
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>>7616553
yes
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Should I just buy and original PS1 if I only want to play PS1 games and can't use the ps2 exploit or a PS mini?
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>>7616674
Its easier to use a ps2 for ps1 burns at this point and you also get easy component video out
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>>7616747
My ps2 is a 39001 though.
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>>7616674
yes
>ps mini
yikes
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>>7616674
If you can buy one cheap
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>>7616804
>>7616813
How much should I try and get an original PS for? I know about Tonyhax so that should be a good run around to modding.
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>>7616820
a year ago 20ish, easy.
nowadays? no idea. 50+ or so. it's nuts.
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>>7616761
so get a newer one? it's the highest selling console of all time there's lots of old ones floating around
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>>7617031
Nice pasta you made
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>>7617031
79XXX here, what you got that I don't got?
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>>7617031
Someone should start testing the games to see if they have other problems.
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if you aren't playing ps1 backups, why not just stick to FreeDVDBoot?
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>>7617336
looking forward to the results of your contribution
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>>7617396
Does that exploit wear out the laser faster?
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>>7617434
I'd sure like to know
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>>7617434
>>7605956
>>7604385
>>7617475
please stop.
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>>7617494
To be fair I am asking about FreeDVDBoot. If I want to play PS1 games I would just play them on thr PS1 or PS Mini with Autobeem.
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>>7617324
Nothing brother we are one and the same, Deckard Slim Chads
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Laserposters DO need to shut the hell up. How is anyone supposed to know the remaining life of YOUR laser or what will happen to it if you play some burnt games with it. There are a bunch of variables that are impossible for anons to know. More importantly, who gives a fuck if your PS2 laser does get killed? You can either get another one of the millions of used PS2s out there or use one of the many guides online to install a cheap replacement. Grow up and stop being such fucking girls about it.
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I have a 90000 series slim and a 30000 fat

what can I do with these?
Thrift store near me has a 70000 series slim CIB but they're charging fucking $75 for it
Another one has a loose one for $14 untested no fucking cables.
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>>7617636
>all models age the same
>what are manageable risks
you are fat
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>>7617694
I'm not actually, I have a slim physique. That's also exactly what I'm trying to say, is that the circumstances and ages of PS2s vary so widely that asking people online what'll happen to their precious laser is retarded. There's such a small amount of PS2 games anyways that don't work via HDD or Network that it's hardly even necessary to use the disc drive for that stuff.
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>>7617713
the method however is hardly irrelevant. ESR style patching may or may not work the laser more than necessary. in this case it would make more sense to look into other methods, and HDD/network are not convenient or feasible for many. i believe you that you are not fat.
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>>7617506
The best way to play PSX games is eboots on a psp 3000 with the proprietary PSP AV cable. Is you disagree, you are a literal faggot.
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>>7617820
just want to let you know i almost responded to this. had a long day, sorry.
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>>7617795
If someone cant figure out or get a SMB setup going then they're also probably the type of person thats like "My chromebook doesnt have a disc drive how am I supposed to burn games??"

But anyways, because you acknowledged that I am in fact not fat I will offer this anecdotal insight: I recently burned a couple games using the master disc method that had given me shitty results under ESR seemingly no matter what I did, just insofar as they would boot like, 1 time out of 15, I had to press down on the lid to make it work better, etc.

They boot every single time now. It could be total coincidence. I've had a theory for a while now that some games, my ps2 just had a hard time picking up that ESR sector to initialize the boot sequence, but now they don't have to rely on tricking the system into thinking they're actually DVD videos or etc, so yes, one could speculate that it will be easier for ps2s at large to play these master-patched discs just by virtue of the fact that they have to do less work to get them to run in the first place. The standard variables of media/write method used all still apply though obviously.
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>>7617863
i will accept this anecdotal info as fact and switch to mechapwn once i feel it has matured. stay fit, friendo.
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>>7616761
You can use Tonyhax on your PS2.
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>>7617694
158 million PS2s were sold
I think there are enough otherwise dead consoles from which you can salvage lasers to last your whole life
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>>7617653
>what can I do with these?
juggle with them

>>7617795
>ESR style patching may or may not work the laser more than necessary.
Oh, Wise Eldar of the Laser, share your knowledge on how the method of patching matters. Please.

>>7617863
ESR relies on hacking the disc-layout to exploit the weakness in ps2's dvd-video-function by adding another filesystem to the disc-image.
open up a vanilla iso and a esr-patched iso in ISObuster to see the difference. no wonder it's causing issues.
the masterdisc-stuff doesn't exploit anything, it's made for exactly this purpose.
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A nigga really got warned and my post deleted for saying i'm HAPPY about owning a 75001 PS2. Janitors are fucking PATHETIC, get a job that actually pays you. They can't stand to see a young nigga shinin', burning PS1 games all day long just to flex on their non-Deckard having asses. Saying I was "Ironic shitposting" like that's not every fucking post on this board. Sheeit.
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>>7618706
anyone who thinks playing burned discs is a good idea should be banned.
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>>7618707
So, my PS2 doesn't commit suicide when it reads burnt or scratched discs, and overall has been used very little for CDs, so it's CD laser is mint. You sound jealous.
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>>7618719
I'm loading from the hdd. someone last thread also showed that deckards can usb load a lot better than previous models.
so really you're just a retard.
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>>7618731
Loading PS1 games from the HDD? Dumbass
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>>7618737
>playing PS1 games on a PS2?
>dumbass
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>>7618752
Gonna need an explanation chief. If it's not more substantial than not being able to play Barbie Racing or 101 Dalmatians, a moon sprite not rendering 100% accurately in SOTN, or the music being glitched in some faggy dating sim JRPG, I will have to conclude that you are indeed, Cucked, to the max.
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>>7618754
if you're gonna emulate then there are plenty of accurate options on pc
kek
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>>7618758
wait, why do you think PS2 emulates PS1?
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>>7618412
Just found out after ordering a PS1 that the 3900X and below models can load it. However, the creator did say that the could be problems with games due to it being intended for PS1 only usages. Like I saw someone mention they couldn't get FF7 disc 1 to work with the eploit on their PS2 and the creator said that it could be pointing to a wrong signal or something on the PS2 since it works fine on the PS1.
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>>7618760
deckard units do
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if youre worried about laser just take the psone pill. as for ps2 games use hdd or smb
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>>7618778
That's what I did since I might as well finally get a PS1 and play the games accurately and keep the PS2 for PS2 games. Plus with Tonyhax it makes it super easy to play rare games like SOTN and PE on native hardware.
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100% guarantee nobody in this thread could identify an "inaccuracy" in any PS1 games running on PS2 beside the small list of well documented glitches which are 99% in games nobody cares about anyways
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>>7618826
ok, i'll bite:
play star wars phantom menace and tell me you don't notice the issue.
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>>7618875
I'd have to want to play some shitty game based on one of the worst movies ever made first so i will not be doing that, actually!
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>>7618879
This game is not bad.
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>>7618826
100% guarantee nobody in this thread could identify an "inaccuracy" in any PS1 games running on ePSXe beside the small list of well documented glitches which are 99% in games nobody cares about anyways
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>>7618912
All you have to do is listen
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ps1 with xstation ODE is best way to play ps1 games
>games run on real hardware as intended
>no dealing with dying lasers
>no need to burn discs
>just drag 'n drop images to micro-sd card
>no need to dealing with ps2's shitty ps1 emulators
>or incompatibility issues
>region free on all models(ntsc, J, pal), auto 50/60hz switching
>no need to deal with psp's lack of L2&R2 buttons and lack of analog stick support, literally exploding batteries or the annoying wires sticking out if using tv output
Sure its expensive, and even more expensive if you are retard who cant solder, but if you really care about playing ps1 games hassle-free its 100% worth it.
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>>7618879
It's rather unfunny how expected that reply was.
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>>7618919
>auto 50/60hz switching
PS1 does that all by itself and just the result of being regionfree, not really a feature of Xstation tbqhfam
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>>7618989
wut
PS1 is one of the worst consoles when it comes to region locking
the video chip literally cannot properly output a different region unless you desolder a couple things on the board and change their voltage.
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>>7618994
the slight inaccuracy in video output only matters if you're an autistic speedrunner
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>>7618989
>PS1 does that all by itself
only on RGB
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>>7618994
>the video chip literally cannot properly output a different region unless you desolder a couple things on the board and change their voltage.
lol no, moron
it's the GPU-clock that's fixed depending on region

>>7619006
try playing ntsc busta groove 2 or DDR on a pal-machine, autist
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>>7619158
see >>7618912 >>7618826
unless its some popular game(s), or if its some autistic persons favorite game nobody cares.
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>>7619158
you're the autist if a 2% slowdown is going to make you fail at a rhythm game
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>>7619397
>>7619393
>slowdown
these _games_ get out of sync because they use both the cpu-clock (which is the same in every pc) and the gpu/video-output-clock (which differs between regions) for their button-timing-shit.

you literally cannot play them properly because the timings go out of sync immediately.
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>>7619417
>which is the same in every ps1
derp
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>>7619417
interesting
I'll have to try it on my PAL PS1 and PS2
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>>7618665
yuck: the post
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>>7617653
the 90k will support mechapwn, the 30k doesn't but will haev tonyhax istead
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>>7618412
you just made my day anon.
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>>7618762
Source?
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>>7619894
on github
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Are the 9001 ps1 models trash, or are they fine if I didn't plan on modding it? I didn't realize that the 900x model couldn't be modded.
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>>7620035
https://github.com/socram8888/tonyhax/issues/24#issuecomment-808786466
Looks like it's fixable at any rate.
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>>7620057
>I didn't realize that the 900x model couldn't be modded.
what? you can add a modchip.
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>>7620394
I was reading that the 900x don't take the xstation mod. Well, actually I saw that on their website it says it is only compatible up to selected 700x models. So I would be able to replace the laser with an sd card reader is needed?
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>>7620520
should have said you meant that 900x couldn't be modded with an xstation, because that's true.

>>7616489
>faq says 750xx+ boot everything from every region
>two issues opened for 75004 and 77004 which say that's not true for them
>"not an issue"
>closed
lol
>two issues opened about a pal 75004 and a 77004 not booting
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>>7620596
>should have said you meant that 900x couldn't be modded with an xstation, because that's true.
My bad. Is there anyway I could mod a 9001 to play off of and sd reader, or would I need to buy a 55xx unit. I don't plan on modding it, but would like the option.
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I was the guy last night with the PAL 7000x who couldn't get his PS2 DVD burns working.
I switched to a 8x speed Ritek brand (burned at 4x speed using alcohol 120%) and first burn was a resounding success loading up Ape Escape 2.
Don't get Maxell DVDs they are crap. The CD-Rs work ok though.
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>>7620596
I dunno what's wrong with that guy - I have an SCPH-75004, converted it to DTL-H75001, and it plays whatever I throw at it.
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>>7620668
>My bad. Is there anyway I could mod a 9001 to play off of and sd reader,
theoretically you can solder in a PSIO-board, but I wouldn't recommend it, and I doubt it actually works without issues.
pic shows an install from a korean who soldered a psio into a psone
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>>7620697
Shit, and I bought one for $60. Though like I mentioned I don't know how to solder and was only going to use tonyhax once I also got a ps1 memory card. That said though I feel stupid about losing a key option, but at least I will have an actual PS1 now.
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>>7620697
>korean
hongkong
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>>7620670
What games would be good to play that don't run well on PCSX2?
I know Ape Escape 2+3 are good candidates since those have issues still and Burnout 3 and Dominator. But I'm unsure where to go from there.
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>>7620905
ratchet and clank 1-3 + deadlocked, they play in pcsx2 but with with major graphical issues or very slowly and ugly in software mode. Same for the jak games too IIRC.
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>>7620932
Actually, both of those games are fixed in developer builds. PCSX2's stable builds are ridiculously out of date. You still have to juggle a lot of configuration parameters to get it exactly right however.
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>>7617636
dude it's a fucking janny trying to extract (You)s and ya fell for it

same with the "sega system" poster and all the other cancer that gets left up on the board
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>inb4 not crt
I just started testing a sh1 disc I bought years ago to see what all this dithering meme is about. Would this effect show up even on a ps2 plugged into a crt due to the ps2's ps1 emulation?

Also, why did Cybil just give a random person a gun?
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>>7616820
$30-40 just look on fb marketplace or craigslist
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>>7623041
That's what I paid for mine, though shipping kind of screwed me. $40 os the absolute most I would pay for and that includes it having the AV cable and a controller.
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>>7623048
I got my PSOne for $40, including the power supply, AV cords, controller and THPS3. I need to replace the spindle, but still that wasn't a bad deal.
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>>7620670
>Don't get Maxell DVDs they are crap
No shit, they are probably the worst.
>I switched to a 8x speed Ritek brand
Lol those arent much better. There is a good reason why everyone says buy Verbatims
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>>7623036
man people on this board don't know aaaaanything, it's insane.
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>>7623092
I'm new to all of this so please pardon my retard assumptions.
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can this be used to install the official HDD OS that came with the PS2 Hard Drive and then install the games from burned discs completely bypassing the need for OPL?
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>>7618826
There are glitches in lots of games that people care about idiot. Driver, Ace Combat 3, Chrono Cross. Let me guess, you want to be spoonfed a list of games and what the problems are? Yes you do because you're a dumb zoomie desperate for information, now run along.
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>>7623169
I've played through AC3 on my ps2, worked fine for me. Chrono Cross is gay so again could care less. You haven't refuted my point, only gotten triggered by it. Therefore, I have cucked you. Sorry not sorry!
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>>7623112
that's not how things work
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>>7623087
Apparently these days Verbatims aren't as good as they used to be. I've seen a lot of bad reviews for them and photos of them going off.
I just don't think they make DVD-Rs like they used to since the demand for them is much lower these days. I think my store only sells the maxells in the first place because it technically is still used as office supplies.
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>>7623534
I believe there are only a handful of DVD-R, DVD+R, etc. factories left and most of them are lower quality than the top brands from back in the day. Now even the top brands sell these lower quality discs.
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>>7623036
I'm playing SH1 NTSC on a Sony Trinitron from 1991 on my SCPH-7501 PS1 and it has dithering. It's just the game.
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>>7623534
Verbatim has a cheap chink off brand called Life Series, lots of people get tricked into buying those, but they are absolute garbage. As for the AZO discs it depends which factory made them, chink and Indian ones arent as reliable as the Singapore and UAE discs.
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>>7623112
I don't believe you need the disc to install the HDDOSD.
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>>7623169
The glitches in Driver only exist on the DECKARD consoles, what about the other games you mentioned?
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>>7623534
>>7623549
>tfw DVD-R produciton will die in our lifetime
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>not playing games on their native system
do /vr/irgins really?
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>>7623574
Hardware backward compatibility is god-tier, anon.
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>>7623579
>all ps2s emulate the ps1-gpu
>all ps2 slims 750xx and newer emulate the ps1-cpu

>hardware backup compatibility
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>>7623596
>bitching about the GPU supposedly being inaccurate when the PS1 already revised the GPU significantly
I won't defend DECKARD models though.
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>>7623628
>bitching about the GPU supposedly being inaccurate when the PS1 already revised the GPU significantly
tbqh the early gpu was faulty to begin with, so the revised gpu is the defacto standard, even just for being in the huge majorty of ps1-consoles out there
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>>7623628
needless to say that 1-chip snes are actually emulating the 2/3-chip snes
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>>7623636
The early GPU wasn't "faulty", it was simply low-precision. Either way, what makes it okay when the PS1 uses a functionally different GPU, but not when the PS2 does it?
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>>7623659
>The early GPU wasn't "faulty"
so it was fixed just a year after launch because sony was bored?
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>>7623684
The GPU redesign was due to the VRAM->SGRAM switch, which was motivated by supply shortages.
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>>7623691
>which was motivated by supply shortages.
and fixing bugs:
https://psx.amidog.se/doku.php?id=psx:gpu
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>>7623694
The only bug mentioned on this page is unrelated to color modulation.
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>>7623703
>is unrelated to color modulation.

>second line: "Modulate"
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>>7623712
Nowhere does it call that a bug. It's just a difference.
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>>7623715
>support 24bit color
>somehow calculate only in 15bit
>not a bug
k
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>>7623718
Correct, using low precision arithmetic is not a bug. Otherwise the whole GTE would be a buggy unit.
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>>7623721
buggy good, correct bad, got it
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>>7623725
>it's correct if I like it and a bug if I don't
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>>7623563
no but you need a disc to still play the game. what I am asking is can this make it so I can burn a PS2 game, install it the HD and then play it from the HD
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>>7624250
Aren't there other ways of ripping the game to the HDD?
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>>7624250
>install it the HD and then play it from the HD
yes
>bypassing the need for OPL?
no
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>>7624276
HDDOSD can boot games straight from the OSD, can't it? I never tinkered with that.
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>>7623636
Is this image why people consider the 750x series the "holy grail" of the line in addition to all the mod support it has? Or were the 5xxx models available after the fix too?
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Why does the PS2 fuck up transparency so badly? Everything has a fucking box around it
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>>7624445
It's probably a bug in the emulation. POPS is a different emulator that apparently doesn't have it.
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>>7618919
>best way to play ps1 games
That would be a cfw PS3
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>>7624605
If you're going to emulate, use a real emulator.
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>>7618919
>no need to dealing with ps2's shitty ps1 emulators
The PS2 had the PS1 chips on board.

Pretty sure a PS3 and PS2 are still easier, because they support HDDs.
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>>7624617
The PS2 runs the PS1 CPU natively, but the GPU is emulated. Like >>7624445 points out, a black box around transparent objects is one of the ways the GPU emulation is inaccurate.
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>>7624610
tell me why a ps3 is bad
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>>7624632
https://emulation.gametechwiki.com/index.php/PS1_Tests
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>>7624494
>POPS
I'm using mecapwn to run burned disks
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>>7624629
Well, shit. Is that all revisions too?
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>>7624641
those literally mean nothing
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>>7624645
Yes, burned discs use PS1DRV. PS1DRV has the black boxes, POPS does not. But POPS is for using other storage devices than the CD, and is worse overall due to emulating the CPU.

>>7624646
Yes, all revisions emulate the GPU. Later PS2 revisions also semi-emulate the CPU when playing games from disc.
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>>7624651
>Yes, all revisions emulate the GPU. Later PS2 revisions also semi-emulate the CPU when playing games from disc.
Hmm, that sucks. I guess PC emulation is the best option then..?

PS3 does an ok job, but you get wibbly wobbly textures, and hate it all you want, but PGXP is a nice mod.
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>>7624662
I'd say that first anon is right and an ODE is the ideal solution if you want accuracy. If you don't feel like setting one up then just getting a real PS1 and running Tonyhax is good enough.

If you don't care about accuracy and want to emulate with all the bells and whistles, that's fine too - but the PS3 and arguably the PS2 don't have much to offer in that regard, and you should seek out some PC emulator instead.
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>>7624651
>PS1DRV has the black boxes
In which games can this be seen?
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>>7624679
Not my experience, someone else's report.
>Syphon Filter 3, Crash Bandicoot 1, 2 and 3, Need For Speed, Soul Reaver
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>>7624267
yes. but its kind of a pain in the ass taking the hdd out and hooking it up to the computer to add/remove games. then you have to look up what issues there with playing said game with opl so you can setup opl to correct these issues.

I'd much rather burn a disc and have the ps2 add/remove it from the hdd and not have to deal with setting up opl for each game at all.

such a pain in the ass to fill up an hdd with games then realise theres a few you forgot about, now you got to take out the drive, hook it up, and figure out which game you want to remove to add another. each iso has to be on its own partition. its not like just add/removing iso's from a folder
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>>7624716
Bro just use hdlgameinstaller
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Did anyone ever figure out a way to use the USB ports as a method for saving and loading data to in order to use them as pseudo memory cards?
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>>7624746
OpenPS2Loader already has them as virtual memory cards. They're limited to the same storage device you play the games from. wLaunchELF can move save files on and off your memory cards for backups.
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>>7624738
and how is that different from what I described?
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>>7624617
speaking of ps3, can super slim model be softmodded these days?
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>>7624738
not having to disconnect, connect, disconnect and reconnect your drive
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OK so... is there any way to load PS1 ISOs from the PS2's HDD yet? Would be great to do everything through OPL.
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>>7625721
just burn your CDs fage
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>>7625896
I refuse. I've had a mod chipped PS1 since the '90s and I don't care for discs anymore. I want ISO loading with PS2's component output.
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>>7625957
Then cross your fingers and pray that an ODE comes out of this.
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>>7625323
Not a clue. I have a regular slim. I had a super slim once and it felt like junk.

>>7625896
Not them, but I haven't had a CD burner in years desu.
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>>7625721
Maybe in the near future via the MechaPwn exploit and code changes to OPL.
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>>7626097
https://www.psx-place.com/threads/possibilities-with-mechacon-code-execution.33113/
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I’m planning to buy a PS2 soon, and I’m considering mostly between a fat or a 70xxx slim due to the PS1 chip, FMCB and perhaps hard drive support (although the slim would need to be hardmodded for it).
These threads have also made relatively solid points for the 75xxx and 77xxx models as well. Avoiding 9xxxx since FMCB doesn’t work with them. And before you ask me about it’s equivalent for them, it’s less stable.
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What the fuck is going on in here. Explain as if km a retarded child
I have couple of modded psx/psone, and backup oem laser assemblies for them. I also have a couple of fat ps2s with hdd, freeemcboot and opl running.
Is there anything I can do with this that I couldn't already do?
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>>7626180
So far, no. The big one me and you are waiting for is PS1 ISO loading but who knows if that'll ever come.
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>>7626351
Yeah, I had some nerd explain to me the it's basically impossible. That the psx hardware and the hard drive have no way of communicating with each other. But I don't know enough to have an opinion.
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>>7626180
Not really. It does interestingly enough provide an alternate method for disc-based PS2 piracy that's much cleaner than using ESR, and also allows you to burn CD based PS2 games onto a CD. I'm about to give it a shot with Ridge Racer V, which doesn't like OPL and I'm too retarded to figure out how to burn it as a working DVD. It also lets you play legit import games if that's something you're interested in.
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>>7623636
what does this look like on ps2?
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>>7626351
I'll be able to die happy if someone ever figures this out. I know about POPSloader but that's just a fucking emulator. I remember it gave me a lousy framerate in Alien Trilogy.
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>>7626175
>Avoiding 9xxxx since FMCB doesn’t work with them
9XXXX models with date code 8B or earlier are compatible with FMCB.
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>>7626438
I've burned a CD of RRV to play happy with this method - but what doesn't it like about OPL?
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>>7617820
Disagreeing, I have an Xstation and PS1HDMI. Stay poor.
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>>7618760
>>7618758
PS2 has PS1 CPU on the motherboard. The PS1 GPU is emulated by the Emotion Engine. It's partial emulation but the GPU emulation is so close to 100% that it really doesn't matter for everyone who isn't autistic about a moon.
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>>7627331
I hear people reporting that, with this emulation, black boxes around transparent objects can be seen. But I've never seen a side by side so I don't know how true this is.
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>>7623649
This is actually true, and not enough people seem to talk about it.
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>>7625302
You don't need to remove the hard drive, it transfers games over the network using SMB but getting it to work is a bit of a crapshoot
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>>7625721
>>7626097
This will never happen because the hard drive controller is the PS1 CPU.
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>>7627354
We need PS2 ODE
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>>7627354
That's not necessarily an obstacle. All the disc stuff goes through the kernel on the PS1, and you can just patch the kernel if you want.
The main problems are these.
>All non-PS1 hardware is unmapped when you enter PS1 mode (possibly fixable on DECKARD models)
>The PS1 has extremely little spare RAM (also not an issue on DECKARD)
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>>7616489
Does anyone have succedeed launching PS1 backups from the HD with this technique or is burning CD/using and ODE is required to play PS1 games?
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>>7627415
It's for burning CDs.
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>>7627418
Ok thanks, that wasn't clear to me at first sight. Don't get me wrong this is an amazing discovery (and the work that has been done to get this exploit is top quality) but the pinnacle of exploiting the PS2 would be allowing the loading of PS2 and PS1 ISO from the HDD (for fat consoles)
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>>7627424
Running PS1 games natively from something other than the disc would be difficult, not because of security but because of technical limitations. I anticipate a handful of different options though.
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>>7627426
Yes I get that bunch of hardware is purely disabled in PS1 mode but when I'm seeing the groundbreaking exploits found by the scene I'm guessing that escaping this PS1 sandbox and/or enabling some external hardware while going in PS1 mode could be in the realm of possibilities.

Nevertheless this Mechapwn is just straight out amazing
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>>7627437
>when I'm seeing the groundbreaking exploits found by the scene I'm guessing that escaping this PS1 sandbox and/or enabling some external hardware while going in PS1 mode could be in the realm of possibilities.
For 7500x onward consoles it's definitely possible - that's handled in software. This software is only barely understood and has hardly been explored, but the potential is clearly there. This could also improve PS2-mode ISO loading.
For the earlier consoles it's much less likely. As far as it is currently understood the PS2->PS1 IOP mode switch is total and binary, handled in hardware, and there's no way PS1 games would run without it. For those consoles, the biggest possibility is probably by plugging some hardware into the memory card slot similar to mx4sio.
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as if my PS2 couldn't get more based, now it runs PS1 backups without a modchip.
Dreamcast shitters absolutely seething.
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>>7627448
>7500x
who cares it just shitty emulation.
If you want to emulate PS1 on a console just do it on a PS3.
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>>7627448
Thanks for this thorough explanation. I come on /vr/ to read this kind of post. Have a nice day anon
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>>7627535
If you went to get technical about it, there is a native R3000 core buried in there. The timing is way off for fairly complex reasons though.
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>>7624756
Does it do that for both PS2 and PS1 cards?
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>>7627867
Yes. Don't rename your saves though. IIRC you also need to be careful to use the correct copy mode.
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>>7623112
there is not a native function to install games from discs. if you've seen people booting full games from the HDDOSD, those are just using a cut down version of OPL merged with the game partition. it has the same compatibility as OPL.
for games with an official hard drive install function, there isn't a point using them outside the games where it unlocks exclusives features or is required to boot the game at all.
for the hundredth time, just use OPL; there's no better alternative.
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>>7628072
>if you've seen people booting full games from the HDDOSD, those are just using a cut down version of OPL merged with the game partition. it has the same compatibility as OPL.
interesting to know, thank you
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>>7624282
no
>>7624360
no, the gpu was changed late into the 100x--cycle (1996-ish)

>>7624679
dracultroid

>>7624716
>yes. but its kind of a pain in the ass taking the hdd out
then don't lol

>>7626175
>Avoiding 9xxxx since FMCB doesn’t work with them.
It does, with Fortuna/FunTuna/OpenTuna

>>7626365
>That the psx hardware and the hard drive have no way of communicating with each other.
the psx-hardware IS handling the hdd when in ps2-mode.

>>7626452
the way it should

>>7627339
check this spot on a ps2

>>7627448
>mx4sio
only works in ps2-mode
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>>7624360
>consider the 750x series the "holy grail" of the line in addition to all the mod support it has
What? PS1Digital and Xstation don't work on those.
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>>7628359
The "PSX hardware" by which you actually mean the IOP no longer has the DEV9/HDD registers in PS1 mode.

Also there's no reason mx4sio can't work in PS1 mode. It's just direct access to the SD card in SPI mode. There's no technical reason why you can't.
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>>7628424
>The "PSX hardware" by which you actually mean the IOP no longer has the DEV9/HDD registers in PS1 mode.
that's like the fifth time it's mentioned in here.
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>>7628052
Is it backing up whole memory cards or file-by-file?
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>>7628547
PS1 saves appear as individual files. PS2 saves appear as folders. You can copy them individually.
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>>7628513
And people keep needing it to be told to them.
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Has anyone gotten PS2 masterdiscs to work? Tried Parappa and Soul Calibur 3 patched with Disc patcher 3, but no luck booting them on a 70001.
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>>7628786
You can't boot PS2 master discs directly.
You must skip the PS2 logo to be able to boot them. Launching games through wLaunchELF will do that. There are conflicting reports of the fastboot option in freemcboot working and not working.
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>>7628796
I've been booting them through ulaunchelf, does it have to be wlaunchelf?
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>>7628826
Either should work. You should also be able to mount and browse the disc files in uLE/wLE.
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>>7628836
Yeah I see the disc's files in Ulaunchelf, but when I use its PS2 disc launch option, it just sits on a black screen
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>>7628796
Not re masters, but is there a difference in process using FreeMCBoat and OpenLoader for booting ISO files and bin/cue files?
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>>7628863
For USB and SMB loading, they go in the CD folder instead of the DVD folder. That's it.
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>>7628875
I was planning on putting a network adapter in, guessing the same thing applies?
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>>7628912
I don't believe that the internal HDD supports Isos or bin cues. You install each game on its own partition with hdlgameinstaller or winhiip.
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>>7628923
Oh I don't know how winhiip works, I was planning on using it anyway. So no difference in that regard?
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>>7628927
You select whether it is a CD game or DVD game at install time. That's the only difference.
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>>7628932
Makes sense, thanks anon.
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Is there any advantage of using tonyhax over a gameshark/AR with unirom?
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>>7628687
so why don't just shuts the fuck up for a sec, captain obvious

>>7628863
fmcb is a launcher for ps2-homebrew, got nothing to do with isos and cue/bins

>>7628940
tonyhax also patches some games' antimod-checks, unirom doesn't afaik
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https://github.com/brad-lin/FreePSXBoot/
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>>7628786
Mine will work if I have my FMCB card in. 7500xx here
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>>7629437
>fmcb is a launcher for ps2-homebrew, got nothing to do with isos and cue/bins
I don't know what it does technically, just that you can use software on it to boot pirated shit from HDD without a mod chip.
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>>7624756
>wLaunchELF can move save files on and off your memory cards for backups.
This.
I've been using the same 8mb memory card for years now because I just backup my old saves on a USB stick then move it to my PC.
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>>7628852
PALcuck?
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>>7629910
Nope, proud NTSC user. Downloading ISOs off the web, loading them up in Disc patcher and selecting master disc and NA region. Put the disc in and try to launch from Ulaunch, but black screen.
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>>7629495
I feel like this is too slow and limited to be useful.
Proper ODE is still the endgame for PS2?
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>>7628940
>advantage of using tonyhax over a gameshark/AR with unirom?
Tonyhax makes you play THPS2 or 3 on start up so you have the option to play a great game by default. That alone is a plus.
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>>7629618
yes, a launcher.
without programs like uLE, OPL, GSM, ESR etc. a fmcb-card alone can't do shit

>>7629919
and you've set the ps2 to what region/dex?

>>7630106
kek

>>7629495
>ONLY FOR SCPH-9002 AT THE MOMENT
that's like putting lipstick on a pig
still a great accomplishment.
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>>7631229
>AT THE MOMENT
Reading the attached forum thread it seems like the exploit is present in all BIOS versions and that this is just a proof of concept.
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>>7631232
>Reading the attached forum thread it seems like the exploit is present in all BIOS versions and that this is just a proof of concept.
hopefully.
although the bios got a major overhaul for pu-20 (700x) with that twink-color-shit, hopefully they didn't touch the memorycard-code.
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>>7631229
Console is set to DTL-70001 USA, console was a US SCPH-700012. PS1 games work great, PS2 games show up in Ulaunchelf and I can browse the DVD, but when I go to boot them, black screen. All PS2 isos were patched with disc patcher.
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>>7618707
Why
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Having studied this MechaPwn thing, it's neat but really only useful for playing import games and PS1 burnt games. Playing PS2 games doesn't seem better than ESR patching.

Also I think it's weird no one's got a working method for booting CD-based PS2 burnt games through softmod.
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>>7632852
>Also I think it's weird no one's got a working method for booting CD-based PS2 burnt games through softmod.
uh, that's what this thread is about.
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>>7632105
>Having studied this MechaPwn thing
>Playing PS2 games doesn't seem better than ESR patching.
?????
It renders ESR obsolete, completely and utterly.
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>>7633174
fug, was meant for >>7632852


>>7632105
got a modchip in it?
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>>7633174
At the expense of nullifying your PS2's ability to play anything but PS2 games, though.

At least as I understand it.
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>>7633189
No, you're getting confused.
The "standard" mechapwn will recognise all PS1 discs, burned PS2 masterdiscs, and legit PS2 imports.
The "force unlock" version forces all discs to be recognised as PS2 discs, and seems only to be useful for homebrew.
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>>7633249
https://www.ps2-home.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=426

Does this program create master discs?
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>>7633279
Correct.
There remains an inconvenience, because the OSD can't boot masterdiscs or imports even with FMCB. uLaunchELF can though.
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Any reason to use this if I already has a PS2 Slim chipped with Matrix?
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>>7633295
But that doesn't matter to me because I'd be booting games on an SCPH-90001 like this.
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>>7633180
No modchip
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>PS1 is a 7501 so can't get SD reader
>PS2 is a 90000 series with 8C so FMB doesn't work

FUCK
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>>7634393
retard
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>>7633542
no
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>>7629928
Yes. Particularly because it'll allow playing PS1 without POPStarter or burning a disc.
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>>7633542
No, it's a bit more inconvenient than a chip and doesn't do quite as much.
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>>7634580
Popstarter is useable and extremely convenient to use thru SMB. Can launch from OPL and there's even support for multidisc games, only a handful of incompatibilities iirc. SMB with a mini pc to stream games from >> wearing out lasers further. Btw, jump on the modded ps3 scene for ps1 gaming bc psn for it will go offline
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>>7634885
If you're going to emulate just use your PC.
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>>7634393
>PS2 is a 90000 series with 8C so FMB doesn't work
use FORTUNA/FunTuna/OpenTuna

>>7634885
ps3 has no gaems
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>>7634393
My 8C works - I can't get the pops boot menu to show up on its own but if I boot and hold triangle, uLaunch will start and then I can manually start OPL or whatever else and it works.
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>>7634939
>but if I boot and hold triangle, uLaunch will start and then I can manually start OPL or whatever else and it works.
Ask me how I know that you've got a modchip in your PS2.



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