Why do people pretend this is some sort of hidden gem? Only 3 slow rail levels and the rest is almost exclusively on foot shit. Yes, even with dual analog controls, they're just boring. It's obvious they were just added there to pad out the game, evident by them also being multiplayer levels.The people that don't like it aren't just hating because it did something different. It's just not very good at what it tried to do. They should have just made more all range levels and tried to do something similar to Rogue Leader instead.Sure, maybe there's some fun to be had with multiplayer, but it shouldn't have come at the expense of the rest of the game. And really, who's going to want to play this over like Halo or Battlefront, or any of the good multiplayer gamecube games.It might not be the worst game in the series, but aside from Command or Zero, I'd honestly rather play any other game in the series.
Starfox would have been an amazing franchise if it wasn't for murdering miyamoto
>>10256104Gamecubefags are desperate for some wins
>multiplayer>four wolf>ice stageyep it's gamer timethe singleplayer was dogshit but the multi was fantasticgood times
>>10256104It is shit and I'm glad more people are realizing it is not some hidden gem.
>>10256201The latest direct gave them a lot.
>>10256209Literally any game can have some greenbelt to make a game seem better than it actually is. Fichina stage was not well designed and the game itself is terribly balanced.
>>10256269"More people" is subjective. The majority of reception I've seen talk about it actually seem to like it. Some even say it's the best in the series and that future games need to come back to it.
>>10256401>"More people" is subjective.It is not subjective. It is what i consider to be similar to the situation sonic cd was in prior to it being re-released everywhere. It was heralded as the best sonic title when barely anyone played it but now that it is commonplace it is not that highly regarded. Assault didn't get a re-release but one could just but the game physically or emulate it. I played it numerous times and I will tell you it is painfully mediocre.
>>10256115Are you sure? How would you have done things differently?
>>10257737If I was nintendo I would have made starfox64 2 on the gamecube for starters
>>10256104I hated all the on-foot parts of the game but I thought the part where you fight Wolf ODonnell for the first time in the game, and the last mission were really great
>>10257762Wasn't the AI for the star wolf fight not smart? I remember them mainly just flying in u turns and barely chase you. They don't even seem to pose a threat to Falco or Krystal.
>>10256209I would take four Wolfs at once.
>>10258080OK fag
>>10256104Assault was the right direction for the series to go in at the time.
I think the easy answer here is zoomies have a lot of nostalgia for it.
>>10256209yeah I don't like this dismissive attitude towards mp. That's why I bought the 64 and GC, and thats what they excel at. This is another great mode to throw into the mix, and that's all I praise it for. I mainly play the original for multiplayer as well
I disagree whole heartedly. Not only is it genuinely the best Star Fox game, but 64 faggots need to be culled already. and realize that every time Nintendo has remade or remastered 64 it’s fucking boring or bad. An actual remake of Adventures with better combat or Assualt with updated controls and more levels would sell much better AND would be more fun than receiving 64 for the 10th time.I grew up playing 64 and thought it was good — very one note though, for years Adventures was my favorite Star Fox game (the atmosphere and music is 10/10 so that’s mainly why) but I replayed it a few years ago and it really is a 5/10 game, but I never had Assault as a kid and bought it just after high school so I’m not blinded by nostalgia.
>>10260578You sound like you're in denial
>>10259979>Assault was the right direction for the series to go in at the time.History disagrees
>>10260578Stockholm
>>10260578>but 64 faggots need to be culled alreadySo what's left after that, furfags?
>>10259979How come it didn't pay off?
>>10259979nah they really shouldve given it to the ace combat division of namco, iirc that was the original plan but they got busy as the project dragged. Assault had the best ideas on moving the series forward, and honestly was the best one since 2 but still fell a bit short in aspects, especially alot of the single player stages designs. They really shot themselves in the foot with the aparoid concept, which felt like an excuse to just have really gimped ai and levels. Actually having to sneak and shoot through a venomian military base or precisely bomb targets while dodging fighter shots, having to play as different members of the team to complete certain missions relevant to their skillset, this kind of stuff seems like what they were first going for, and wouldve been the best foot forward, instead of the weird edf-like we got, and if you compare it to some of the star wars games coming out at the time its not like they couldnt have done it if they were more focused. The fact a fox in space touched on more of this shit than any of the games shows a constant issue with starfox's direction and untapped potential into a real damn good game. Multiplayers still good though.
>>10260848Bad execution
>>10260851That's a big understatement
>>10260850If multiplayer was so good why don't you see pro gamers revisiting it and non star fox fans praising it? The multiplayer in assault only appears good within the bubble of the series where it is the only entry that took multiplayer seriously
>>10260850I could be mistaken but i heard the klonoa team worked on assault
>>10260882the latency is terrible on dolphin
>>10260898Excuses
>>10260882NTA but it's because not everything has to be popular to be good. Even things that are good don't need to always raise the bar. It's a fun extra mode in a fun game, that's all. Not everything has to be all or nothing.
>>10260934Isn't that another way of saying it wasn't memorable? Just another so-so title in a crowd of similar quality titles?
>>10260882I think both your questions are more answered by the fact the game didnt sell that well, especially compared to other huge multiplayer titles on the gamecube, or hell even the franchise its a part of. Besides, popularity doesnt necessarily mean quality, and vice versa. Assaults kinda nice in that its sorta gatekeeped from both the things you mentioned. As for why it hasnt achieve popularity later, its really made as a couch multiplayer game. Lots of modifiers to mess around with and make your own gamemodes. Hell, maps were fun enough to just play hide and seek in.
>>10260953Yeah, pretty much. It wasn't very memorable unless you played it with friends a lot when it came out, but for some weirdos like me, it's pretty fun. I guess what my tired ass is trying to say is: It was memorable within its own little circle, and that's fine. It didn't need to be any more than that.
>>10260848Because 90% of the world was playing GTA Vice City on PS2 and the gaycube flopped
>>10256104>Why do people pretend this is some sort of hidden gem?90% of threads nowadays are:"Did you know that LE BAD game was actually... LE GOOD???"or"Did you know that LE GOOD game was actually... LE BAD???"It's cool to be a contrarian I guess...
Nintendo should have gave assault to sega like they did with FzeroGX
>>10263195I'd rather go still existing as I don't want Namco to fuck up f zero on GameCube like they did star fox assault
>>10263182So what is truth?
>>10263195why, so they could make a space harrier crossover? the fuck would they do with star fox? Make it like afterburner?
>>10264467Ever heard of panzer dragoon?
>>1025610464faggotry was unironicly the reason why Assault ended up as a schrodinger's game.Let the devs make what they wanted next time, dipshits.
>>10263195>let's give it to the worse developer for 3D shooters>also make the entire cast look Sonic knockoffs because SANIC TAEMFuck off SEGAtard>>10264748Ever heard of trash?
>>10265068Even if that means another 64? Face it assaultfags are even worse as they complain about everything that isn't like assault.
>>10256104filtered
>>10265660So only people with shitty taste remains for those who like assault?
>>10257737i wouldn't have shoehorned dumb gimmicks nobody asked for and made a proper sequel.i mean it says alot how the only good starfox games are effectively the original, a remake on the N64 and a 3DS port of said remake.
>>10260578>would be more fun than receiving 64 for the 10th time.when has that happened? we haven't had another starfox game like 64.command had the same shitty board game mechanics that SF2 had, zero had motion controls nobody but miyamoto asked for and 3D is just a port of starfox 64.>>10265068>Let the devs make what they wanted next time, dipshits.miyamoto should've taken that advice for zero.
Are assaultfags among the most delusional and hysterical people on /v/ and /vr/?
>>10265861who hurt you
>>10265640They were going to make another traditional Star Fox on arcades but got it cancelled because 64retards cried Armada didn't have a stupid campaign.
>>10265971>They were going to make another traditional Star Fox on arcades>ARCADESthere's your problem right there. it had nothing to do with "64fags" whining and everything to do with making an arcade game in a time period where arcades were practically dead outside of japan.
original 64 is the only good game in the franchise.
>>10266018>there's your problem right there.Not at all. They didn't even realize it was being made for them. At the time, Nintendo was doing huge franchises pushes to smaller active franchises, getting a traditional and online focused game our would have did a lot for Star Fox on the GCN.Had they went with it, it MIGHT'VE did a port for it. But no, they had to go on and bitch about the lack of a single player mode, and Nintendo thought nobody would come to the arcades to play the 4 million dollar hit in HD and an interesting control scheme.We lost LAN functionality for a last minute story mode that wasn't gonna live up to expectations anyways.
>>10257737Just expand on the rail shooter formula. Starfox was Nintendo’s premier and really only rail shooter and it should have stayed that way. Use Starfox 64 as a base and experiment as nintendo does (or used to do) like going from Super Mario Bros to SMB3 or Zelda 1 to ALTTP and OOT. Or Metroid to Super Metroid, you get the idea. Instead they rewrote the formula for the series and farmed out Starfox to the cheapest bidder, or pushed it on companies for “brand recognition”. It became Rare’s Zelda clone first, then Namco’s arcade style multiplayer third person shooter.If they had kept lots of really good rail shooting levels as the core gameplay, maybe mixing some zelda style dungeons or assualt style gameplay would have worked, in an Actraiser kind of way. Of course thats not easy to pull off. What we got was piss poor rail shooter levels sloppily shoehorned into games that were a different genre and either potentially great but unfinished (Adventures) or just blandly average (Assault).
>>10265078>let's give it to the worse developer for 3D shootersMan just imagine a Star Fox game as good as After Burner Climax...but gay furries and shitty dialogue are really important I guess.
>>10266324Probably would end up better than how assault turned out
>>10266253>online focused>on gamecubethe more you describe it the more it sounds like it would've been destined to fail.scrapping it was for the best.
>>10266253Do you have a source to back up your wild claims? If not then shut the fuck up you schizo.
>Fox fucks Krystal>Peppy used to fuck but he's so old his wife died, but at least he has a daughter>even Slippy, who we all thought was the gay one, found a nice girl to fuckI kinda wish we got a Star Falco spinoff to get into the birdfucker's psyche, his cockiness has to be a form of sexual frustration and he literally has a cat who's not a bad pilot actively opening her pussy to him but he's not biting, what went wrong?
>>10266871Uh, retard bro? Your Monster Hunter precursor?Also, online Melee and Double Dash would have been nuts.
>>10267042You seriously have not heard about Star Fox Armada and the Triforce Star Fox arcade Scamco was working on?This is why fags on /a/ enforce anti-spoon-feeding culture, do your research fag.
>>10266324>but gay furries and shitty dialogue are really important I guess.That's what a SEGAY Star Fox would have been. F-Zero GX cutscenes aren't anything to walk home about either.>>1026634264fags would have torn it a new one no matter what dev made it.
A good Assault exists but a certain dead franchise had to swipe away Star Fox's once chance to be glorious again.
>>10256104only praise i ever heard of is was for the multiplayer.
>>10267651It wasn't even good
>>10267604I'm optimistic I'd be less critically panned than now assault turned out. I'm shocked how off the mark Namco was at making a star fox when they had a lot going for them.
>>10267598POST SOURCENOW
>>10267523Things were never quite the same for him after the threesome with Miyu and Fay.
>>10267523He has no penis and is surrounded by mammals and reptiles. Makes perfect sense if you think about it.
>>10265861Cubeshitters in general are, but assaultfags are a special breed of mental illness.
>>10267523Look at his "casual" outfit and tell me he wasn't the gay one of the group all along.
>>10268106>but assaultfags are a special breed of mental illness.How so?
>>10256104NAMCO shills.
>>10267596ah yes phantasy star online the only gamecube game outside of 2 japan only games.>online Melee and Double Dash would have been nuts.yes but neither happened and the fate of scrapped a starfox arcade game wasn't going to change that.
>>10265971>>10266253>>10267596>>10267598even if nintendo pushed through with armada and did everything you said it would've still flopped because...>1.) arcades are practically dead outside of japan and barcades weren't really a thing (or at the very least not as widespread) in the early 2000s.>2.) nintendo had ZERO online strategy during the gamecube and only included the modem as a "me too" because sony, sega & microsoft did it. hence why phanasty star and 2 or 3 japan only games had online play/functionality....funnily enough they would've had much better success now with the switch as it would be something that could sell nintendo online like smash ultimate, goldeneye or mario kart 8 and i could see armada being one of the big games at a dave & busters like the mario kart & halo arcade games.
>>10267596ONE GAME
>>10268661I DON’T KNOW WHY?
ASSAULT SUCKS
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>>10256209The multiplayer for this game is amazing and I’m tired of pretending it’s not
>>10270998>and I’m tired of pretending it’s notYou could have fooled me
