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Stuck in Greninja´s hell forever Edition


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>>54850316

Info:
https://pastebin.com/Ge95YuMA
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Any codes?
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>>54883055
no
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How improve league in tcgo?
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>>54883055
Only the free gallade ex code from the tourney

ParadoxLAIC
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>>54884301
>>54883055
There are Twitch drops right now in the tourney
AND Iron Valiant just took a turn 1 win in top 4 so expect to see a lot of them in ladder
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>Play any deck on greninja league
>Start second
>Lose because oponent get all his cards for his game

>Start first
>Lose because oponent get all his cards his first turn
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>>54884739
I hate fighting lost box online
Takes forever between turns
Also when is the next meta without big basics
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>>54882847
>new thread before bump limit
>doesn't link it in the old thread
Retard baker.
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>>54884832

are you mad?

>Play PTCGO
>Copy meta deck charizard/roaring moon/lugia vstar
>Still lose every time
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>>54885321
>charizard/roaring moon/lugia vstar
Congrats you named 3 of the most overrated ones
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>>54885333

Can you post the most winning deck in this rotation?
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>>54885380
Lost Box w/Giratina
Gardevoir ex
Fusion Strike Mew/Genesect
Miraidon
Stall Snorlax/Mimikyu/RotomV
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>>54884739
Sounds like a (You) problem.
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Remember the hype?
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>>54885804

>all the chien-pao decks with this shit and still can´t see in action

In another castle, Tserena EX is my new fun deck
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>>54885804
Turns out big basics still rule the meta so there's no evolution fodder for it
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Why does no one use this card?
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>>54886243
No good grass pokemon.
Toedscruel only does damage if you spread out energy, so gardenia putting 2 on 1 mon isn't ideal

With Earthen Vessel it's pretty consistent, but yeah simply put there's no good grass attackers. Guess they want to chill charizard
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Grass doesn't need an energy accelerator
grass needs evolution accelerate
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Grass doesn't need an evolution accelerator
Grass needs to be smoked
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Grass doesn't need an evolution accelerator
Grass needs to be mowed
get to it
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Does anyone still even play Drapion or Spiritomb? I feel like I'm winning really easy with Mew decks now than ever before.
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why does arven zard play jet energy? why not just play a switch so arven can search it out?

>>54887011
this has literally been going on for the last 4 months. mew pops up, people play drapion/spiritomb, mew goes away, people remove drapion/spiritomb, mew pops up because there is no drapion/spiritomb, etc..
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>>54887035
So the trick is to only use a Mew deck during those off tournaments where nobody happens to bring Drapion/Spiritomb?
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>>54887055
this game's competitive scene is a joke. remember that troon that won with rapid strike box? in 16 games he didnt get a single fucking lugia
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>>54885804
>Ancient guys get a universal accelerator so if you really wanted to mix and match Roaring Moon and Sandy Shocks, there are ways you can
>Future guys have zero synergy with each other at all, making Techno Radar useless outside of flooding the board with Iron Valiant

I really don't know what they were thinking with Turo.
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Grass needs to atone for it's sins still.
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>>54887055
Feels like Mew might be decent if Valiant starts popping up everywhere.
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>>54887149
Ace spec maybe?
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The free card today is mew-ex alt art.
Getting pretty close to being able to play the peony roaring moon meme deck that uses 4 mews (1 mew from crafting, 1 mew from battlepass, 1 mew from twitch drops)
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>make a deck around a fun gimmicky card to have a good time in normals
>everyone plays the broken fotm, even in normals
how do you have fun in this game already?
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Get absolutely fucked Lost Giratina, good riddance
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Comfey...
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>online grinder kid wins
sad
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>>54888644
>lost tina takes another L
happy
All that chatter about it being a sleeper overpowered deck in Japan and it takes two straight losses in the top cut of the first IC of the format against different decks
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That didn't require a reply
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One of the judges is a famous Youtuber here in Brazil LMAAAO
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>>54883055
Sorry, used up all mine by finally getting into the game and not just collecting.
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>>54885804
>4 energy for a 120 attack you must KO with turned out to not be an optimal play
Imagine my shock
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>>54886243
I run it in Tsareena, but it would probably just be better if I plugged in more Prof Research instead.
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Besides the battlepass, what else do you buy with the purple gems?
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>>54889405
Shadowrider/mew vmax bundles
Or best use is the 6 packs of celebrations.

The vmax bundles give faster up front credits, but the celebrations ones give more credits overall once you get 4x master set of it, then everything becomes dupes for credits. They're the best ways to get the credits to craft what you want, using them on anything else is a scam
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>>54885402
>Lost Box w/Giratina
Isnt Roaring moon better than Giratina in LZ decks
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>>54889468
Giratina still hits 280 which is enough for sableye set up or just killing v/stars. Moon has to ohko anything above 230 HP
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>>54889487
Yeah but think about:
Giratina Lost Box was so good because its ability to one shot everything and trade blows. Roaring moon does the same thing, more so Giratina has these awkward moment when you need to discard 2 energy just to KO a single price card. Roaring Moon mostly removes this interaction. Also more space for stuff like water energy for ninja
>Moon has to ohko anything above 230 HP
You're supposed to drop him lategame as finisher(simplified gamestate) most of the time rather than setting up early like tina.
Well, 280hp lol still easy enough to get oneshotted
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>>54889614
Giratina is tanky and hard to deal with a lot of decks. Anyone can hit 30-90 on a moon clean up
The point of giratina lost box is it has cram/sableye as well to help its other match ups. It's very consistent all round. That's why arc+tina has fallen way off, going straight giratina isn't great
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>finally get a chance to fuck over Gardevoir using the cape on Scream Tail
>Tool Jammer in the last 4 prizes
Why do relevant tech cards always get prized in their specific matchups? I can't count how many times Manaphy has been prized against Chien-Pao essentially giving my opponent the game, too.
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Lol better then Pikachu hell since im too lazy to even try ranked
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>>54882847
I'll literally win 5 then lose 5. I'll bounce between Greninja and Alakazam regardless of the deck I use.
I have only made it to Umbreon twice, and I can't imagine the streak of luck it takes to make it to Arceus.
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>>54887149
A stadium that does this for every stage pokemon wouldnt be so bad once Vs get rotated
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>>54890561
You think so?
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>>54891193
Shit, this would be great. Allows Zard and Voir players to get all their stage 2 out, as well as clear floodgate stadiums and avoid that new devolution TM. Only big issue with it is that you would also need to search out the middle stage instead of a rare candy, which tends to be a bit more costly.
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I concede after their first turn vs. any lost deck in casual
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>>54889405
New player, used mine to pick up the Meowscarada deck for some extra resources.
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>opponent does an illegal deck check
>his friend, the judge, tells him to knock it off without penalty

based...
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>opponent decides to slow play to make sure I can't win
>openly says they're going to slow play
>call the judge on their ass
>judge gives a time extension and makes sure he plays within the pace of the game
>win

opponent's win percentage is a shitty tiebreaker...
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>>54885804
Speaking of dead hype...
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>opponent calls me a hard R during match
>I kill him, judge just gives me a warning
>win match since opponent was unable to play

nice
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Huh, did the crafting cost for cards changed? What's with the 25 extra credits for some cards? Fucking TPCi I swear
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Miraidon feels so bricky to play after roaring moon... RM was mind broken me
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>roaring moon tards who cant read that their instakill wont work on my card

Very funny turns wasted
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>>54892598
What card/combo is it? Kinda curios, as Moon still breaks through stuff like Tsareena with mask.
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>>54892612
Snorlax. The one you run in a lugia deck
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>>54892625
Fucking kek
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>>54885874
It is really damn funny how Tsareena, one of the most overlooked cards initially, ended up being probably the best Ex in the set behind Roaring Moon, while every other hype beast was discarded after a week of testing.
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Can you currently get the twitch drops? It says it's in the time but there's no tcg stream up?
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>>54892683
Yeah I was wondering about that too.
Also when do you get the rewards from the Twitch Drops? I claimed the rewards but I don't have it in the game yet.
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>>54892683
>>54892710
It says its already closed for me.
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>>54892710
You must access the site to get the codes.
https://rewards.pokemon.com/
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>>54892710
You have to login to the pokemon.com site and get codes there. There's a link to it through the twitch promotion
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>>54892746
The gallade ETB 2nd day one says closed for me, but the 3rd day mew one is still open?
What was even in the ETB? Just a gallade promo?
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I guess it's not working though I've not gotten any progression on it. The twitch times on it are incorrect then
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you had to watch it live
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>>54892754
>What was even in the ETB?
Iron Valiant's deck box and sleeves and an Iron Bundle promo card.
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Friday was Roaring Moon ETB
Saturday was Iron Valiant ETB
Sunday was 151 collectors box promo cards
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>>54892747
>>54892748
Oh there they are. Thanks for the help!
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>>54892808
And none of the days ever worked for me!
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skill issue
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TIL Vengeful Punch works even if the Pokemon it's attached to is in the bench. That's neat.
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Eat shit, lost pussies. Just be glad I didn't put down my Klefki on the placement.
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Who here love big numbers?
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>>54893168
Literally have never even heard of this fucking card.
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>>54893173
It's pretty subpar since you need at least 40 damage on a big basic for a KO so you need to setup the damage counters first. I just play it to get that serotonin boost when I get to hit for 500+ damage.
Currently running it with ASR Absol for the damage spread but it's so slow so I added Bonnet+R. Sneasler. Gapejaw Bog and Vengeful Punch helps a lot for spreading damage but again too many setups for a below average deck lol
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>>54893213
Thinking of pairing Lokix with Klefki/Mimikyuu instead for a more control type deck but haven't figured out what else to play it with since just bouncing back and forth isn't so great, especially with no Float Stone, but there is that Beach stadium I guess.
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>>54893213
I've also been thinking that it's better to use R. Alakazam instead of Sneasler and substitute the Bonnetts with Starmie or Hawlucha, but I don't have the credits to craft those cards yet
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Completely forgot this card exists, maybe I'll try this in the deck.
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>>54893168
>>54893213
bretty cool anon
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>>54892665
Yeah easily the third best stage 2 not counting baxcalibur. Garchomp could end up being good if fighting gets some more support
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>>54893521
I know Zard is first, but what's second best?
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>>54893528
Ah wait it's Garde nevermind
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>>54882847
So does the game already have some kind of gallery/collection to view the cards you own? Im not even updating that shit to check it out myself
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Do we all agree that Miraidon winning LAIC was a fluke?
Just like how Rapid Strike won the last international.
Neither of those decks are gonna top 3 again.
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>>54893482
i miss birds & bats
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>>54893799
its almost as if this game is designed for 7 year olds
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Seems like I'm not the first one to experiment with Lokix. These also seem fun and maybe even better, I'll try making them later when I have the cards.
https://pokemoncard.io/deck/lokix-and-inteleon-68757
https://pokemoncard.io/deck/lokix-qwilfiah-67458
I did think of using Inteleon but somehow I missed that you can put it on the bench using the Rapid Strike supporter.
And Quilfish does seem to be the most ideal Pokemon to put in the active after bouncing Lokix to the bench. Don't know why they run so many energies tho.
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>>54894416
lumineon vs squawk start glhf
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>>54894425
Squawk start for Moon isn't actually that bad if you can't charge your Moon in the first turn
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>>54894420
i tried adapting one of the valiant/entei decklists to use lokix instead, but in the end it was just a worse version of the same idea. entei is just so much more versatile.
i still hope lokix can be good in the future though
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>need to get the Silver Tempest Hisuian Braviary to finally complete this Tsareena ex deck
>open 3 booster packs and they were all hits with a Lugia Vstars, a Candice Full Art, and a Trainer Gallery Smeargle with a Radiant Alakazam
I just want a stinkin' Braviary.
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>open 3 booster packs for a 10 cents rare
lol?
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>>54894537
I did not to wait three weeks for a package that's gonna get lost again. Fuck the USPS.
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>>54894597
Still, you're talking maybe 2 bucks at most vs 15.
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>>54894729
It's pretty funny either way. Anon wants a dirt cheap card but pulls better cards anyways
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>>54894597
Next time ask your LGS for their commons pile, they usually have one of those
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>>54893213
>at least 40 damage on a big basic for a KO

Try 60.
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Which Pokemon would work well with my Wugtrio deck? I was thinking of adding Block Snorlax for late game stall but that might end up working against me if I can’t switch out.
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>>54895560
Crabominable V maybe for the last hit?
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>>54895885
>last hit
Draw is the same as discard if it really is the final turn.
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>>54894416
Eternatus was so much fun back in the day
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>>54895958
>not posting english cards

Back to 2ch you go
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>>54896053
>he's too new to know what vmax hand does
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So ultima-teras will be the v-star equivalent mechanic in the latter half of this gen?
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So is using a nest ball knowing you dont have any more basic cards in your deck against the rules irl?
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>>54896070
SwSh was a shit generation on console, why would i bother getting back into tcg for the worst games?
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>>54896107
If you previously searched your deck for nothing, shuffled it then played another nest to look through again and shuffle. Yes it's wasting time and a judge can call you out.
Otherwise it's fine to just play it to discard as a thin against iono, just don't be a retard like tord and waste a minute on it pretending to look for nothing
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>>54896128
>SwSh was a shit generation on console
who cares? i havent played a pokemon game since USUM, and the games have no bearing on what i like or play because i'm not retarded
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It is literally impossible to build a deck that won’t brick 50% of the time. So-called “champions” are in reality just average people with average decks who happened to be luckier than everyone else on that day. There is absolutely zero skill involved in this fucking game.
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>>54894458
Yeah I was also thinking about using Valiant with it, but I don't have the cards for it.
>>54895282
40 damage on the Pokemon + 10 base damage from Punishing Kick + 40x4 amplifier + 30 damage from poison = 240
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>>54895560
May your enemies seethe in disbelief, based coin flipper.
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>Klawf deck players still refuse to ever play Path
Literally why. It counters almost every single counter to the Klawf deck. The only one it doesn't stop is Pikachu Vmax.
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Wish there was a way to make this work in current format with Luxury Cape.
A 400 HP one prize poke that can hit for 200 sounds fun.
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>>54897274
1. Klawf decks need the Town Store consistency and collapsed stadium more.
2. Stick Path and pray is a strategy that barely works anymore, even less with a deck that doesn't have a full set of Judge in the list. Every major deck runs their own stadiums (Pokestop, Artazon, Magma Basin etc.) , and decks that get hurt by path hard will almost always run counters (Lost Vacuum fetchable with Arven, Worker, etc.)
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>>54897274
I like Town Store for consistency and don't really have room for two stadiums. But maybe you're right
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>>54897581
>Stick Path and pray is a strategy that barely works anymore
Bullshit.
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>>54897581
>and pray
Most of the time you just need the opponent to get stopped by Path for 1 turn and that's enough.
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>>54897274
What does Path do against Moon?
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>>54897683
Klawf decks can beat Moon without needing Path.
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>>54897564
Its a shame theres not really any good 1 prize stage 2. None of them do enough damage for the amount of time it takes to get them out and the amount of space they take up in the deck.

They tried something with nidoking but anyone that plays zard knows how hard it is to get 2 stage 2s out making the deck horribly inconsistant

If your main attacker cant do at least 330 damage in 2 attacks it isnt good enough to compete in the current meta(unless your lost box). Just look at Garchomp ex
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>>54897688
Another issue that comes up though is Klawf decks need Radiant Sneasler turned on in order to get certain OHKOs. If you path a Chien Pao deck early for example, you won't be able to get the oneshot on a Pao through a double statused Electrode V or a grant boosted Klawf. Putting up Path early against charizard slows it down yes, but then you're also not gonna be getting 2 prize knockout momentum with Electrode V because they'll save evolving into Charizard ex til it's gone.
Path is counter-intuitive against key matchups, the only thing it would be good against would be slowing Garde, but even then they draw so many cards a turn when set up it'll get easily removed by whatever counter they drew off of refinment for the turn.
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>>54897728
Klawf just sucks against Garde in general.
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>>54897727
At least Nidoking can take out Mew VMax and Garde EX in one hit thanks to being Dark.
Fighting is so shitty. Even worse than Grass.
Also my mistake, luxury cape will make it a 2 prize pokemon but still, 400 HP sounds cool in paper.
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>>54897688
>still can't play any of my old Expanded decks on this piece of shit a year after nuking TCGO
Why are they like this? What do they fear will happen if you have access to stuff like Professor's Letter and Sky Field?
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What's the best deck I can make with only G regulation cards? (silver border)
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>>54897846
nothing. Why even limit yourself to just G? only E is rotating next year
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>>54897846
There's not enough good G trainer cards to make a good deck with.
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>>54897743
Yeah, Garde and Mew VMAX are the two I've never really found a good way to win with Klawf except praying they completely whiff their starting hand.
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>>54897981
I've seen some Klawf decks have an emergency Drapion V.
But are there any other Dark types that can be put into this type of deck?
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>>54898056
Slowbro and Clodsire, but they're Stage 1s and need three energies to work. Alternatively, Sableye and Seviper.
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>>54897981
>match with Klawfaggot
>Boss in their Bitch Bonnet to give me time to setup
>take out Bitch Bonnet once powered up
>Boss/CC any other Bitch Bonnets they play and take them out
>bring in Iron Hands to clean up
Works every time. I’ve literally never lost to a Klawfaggot.
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>>54898196
>Spicy Curries you
Heh, nothin' personnel.
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>>54898091
There's a surprising amount of Pokemon with the Venoshock attack
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>>54898208
>110 Damage
No offense taken.
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>>54898264
>110 Damage
?
You mean over 300, right?
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>>54898196
Most Klawf decks carry tons of Switch items. Boss stalling doesn't work.
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>>54892638
This with the Mantle is a direct counter to Moon right? Forces a trade by being immune to Gouging and the extra 100HP meaning it survives the other attack even with a Stadium up.
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can someone make an updated version of this with fire dog, troonbot, and yogalord
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>Be me, playing Alakazam EX
>Opponent is using Electric with Miraidon, Raikou, Regielec, the works,
>Opening hand is shit, only get Bidoof
>Opponent goes full stop, sets up extremely quickly
>Get curb stomped early on, opponent uses Iron Hands to drop to one prize, clears out my mew and radiant
>He starts spamming the happy emote

>Suddenly get my hands on mimikyu
>Promptly snipe his Hands into 50%
>Guy retreats and goes into raikou, trying to draw
>I draw another mimikyu, play it
>Faggot tries to escape rope me
>LMAO
>Opponent finally gets wise and tries to kill me with Flaffy
>Sniped
>Opponent keeps drawing cards in desperate bid, even uses Forest Seal and and Arceus vstar
>MFW I realize he only ran one BO
>MFW when his only non rule box was a single Mareep/Flaffy

Anyway, dude got pissy and went AFK just to spite me. I realize my victory was more because my opponent was an idiot and maybe got unlucky with his final prize, but regardless, it was funny to run over a comp player with a shitty meme deck, especially with such a wide lead
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>>54897751
Yeah fighting definitely has it the worst right now not only in terms of support but also match up. Its super effective to electric and sometimes colourless however it is sometimes resisted by it... this is apearntly enough of a reason to make all psychic pokemon resist it even pokemon that dont resist fighting, rock or ground in the games. Fire is super effective against 2 types and nothing resists it and electric is literally in the same boat as fighting but nothing resists.

All this despite fighting representing 3 types its almost like they have something against it
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>>54899162
resistances make zero sense, and its a forgotten mechanic.
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>>54899162
Its sadly also lacking a good boss. Despite getting a box legend and a couple of tera, nothing has really helped them much.
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>>54882847
Found a booster box of OG Team Rocket 1st edition booster packs from 2000. The box was open but still contained 20 sealed packs. Wat do.
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retard
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Is Escape Rope in any prebuilt decks? Need a couple of them but my locals don't have any. Might have to resort to ordering them online but half the time shit I order doesn't show up so I'm not keen on that idea.
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>>54899476
The Meowscarada and Quax Battle decks have 2 copies each.
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>>54899489

neat thanks
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>level 15 on battlepass
>gotten 3 packs off email
>6 off twitch
>STILL only pulled ONE ex so far
>it was fuckin tapu koko

why did all my luck get wasted on the garbage obsidian flames set when now there's a ton of good cards worth wanting
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>>54899196
Koraidon is relatively good acceleration and Ting Lu was kinda nice before, but the fact that it doesn't affect EX pokes at all made it horribly shitty in the long run.

Wish it was better. Same as grass but at least grass hits hard on most dark pokes that are around.
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>>54899573
Yeah, Ting Lu not hitting EX reminds of when in Yu-gi-oh they release Meklords, the "synchro killers" at the tail end of when that mechanic was being supported. Very bad decision there.
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>get matched with two opponents at the same time
>have to restart the app
>lose ladder points
Nice fucking game these slopes got here.
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How is the meta these days? I want to start playing again but I can't find any up-to-date place to look for decks
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>>54900157
Read the OP
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>>54900157
The current meta is currently waiting for your opponent to finish their draw engine.
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>>54900157
big damage go boom
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Whats the point of making de-evolution tm if big basics are already the best decks lmao, even the matches you theoretically do well against just add a couple stage 2s and you autolose those again. Really looking forward to another 5 months of the exact same decks that were also topping a year ago
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>>54901280
We're gonna need evolutions that ignore damage from basic pokemon again.
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trust the god of tm
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>>54898992
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They came! And so did I
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>>54902568
Hey, pretty cool! Didn't even know they did custom sleeves
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>>54902426
Absolutely based. Thank you Anon.
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>>54902568
https://www.yourplaymat.com/products/custom-card-sleeves
this company offers edge to edge art sleeves. why didn't you take it?
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>>54902426
Kek nice one
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>>54903108
The border looks nicer. Like frost on a window.
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>>54899022
>He starts spamming the happy emote
>dude got pissy and went AFK
Love to see it.
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>>54903411
Yeah well, it's off-centered.
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>>54903641
You forgot your nerd emoji
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>>54903641
I don’t see it. Even if it is, no one but you is autistic enough to notice or care.
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>>54903671
>>54903690
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>>54903633
Yeah, extra sweet since I both had bad luck and misplays, yet still recovered from a 1-6 lead.
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>>54903690
>gets DQ'd
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>>54903723
>complains sbout centering
>the boxes in the key are misaligned
I'm not bothering to check their sizes but I honestly wouldn't be surprised if the two at the edges are actually the same, or at least different sizes than the two at the bottom.
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>>54903852
>implying I’d use these in an official competition
Not my first rodeo, kid.
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>>54903723
Anon finds out he has no depth perception
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>>54901309
I'd like to see the return of evolution stone cards.
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>>54902426
neat
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Is there any point to having Battle VIP pass in your deck if you dont put 4 of them?
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>>54906571
You put 1 in so you can feel lucky when you get it in your starting hand and unlucky when you get it for a prize
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TCG Question- both players are on their last prize. Player one's pokemon (let's say Roaring Moon EX) attacks player two's pokemon, knocking it out, but also knocking itself out.

What is the result?

My intuition says when player one (the attacker) receives their prize due to knock out, that immediately ends the game, before player two has a chance to receive their prize.

What say you 4chan?
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>>54906994
Both players take their prizes and the match goes into sudden death/tiebreaker. First to get a prize/win the game wins. I'm sure there's a video on YouTube that shows this, I've only seen it from people's fecesbook posts
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>>54906571
1-2 is fine for arven/irida decks for the times you go 2nd. Sometimes you just lucksack them turn 1 anyway
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Why do people run Arcanine and charizard? Arcanine seems bad anyways.

>1st attack is okay for revenge kills but only AFTER getting hit
>2nd attack discards fire energy, in a meta where roaring moon discards stadiums (aka that card that pulls fire energy from the discard pile)
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>>54900157

The meta is:

>Start first or second
>Oponent do all the crazy shit and get full bench , new hand and every card needed for crushing you in his 2nd turn
>Get angry and close app

Everytime
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>>54908223
Arcanine ex is bad. if you're seeing someone play it with charizard ex its because they're trying to make a bad card work with a good one.
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>>54908223
Might just be because its a starter deck, and with Obsidian Flames pass over, people just just it to fill up extra ex slots. I don't truly know, its hard to say.
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Why do y’all cry so much about Lost Box when pic related exists?
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if klefki kept lost box in check lost box wouldnt be the best deck in the format for almost 2 years stupid
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>>54902426
THIS SUMMER
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>>54908854
>shuts down Comfey
>shuts down Cramorant
>shuts down Radiant Greninja
>gives you time to setup before they fill their Lost Zone
If you can’t beat a Lost Cuck with Klefki then it’s literally a skill issue.
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over 12 months of tournament data prove you wrong stupid
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I was going back and forth about going to register for Charlotte regionals and when I finally decide to bite the bullet Masters division is already full. Better luck next year I guess.
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its probably a good thing, if you come to my state i'm killing you in real life
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I'm on my way teehee
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>roaring moon fails spectacularly, placing with a minimum of 90th

Hilarious
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>>54908044
glad i crafted the regular FA, still better

he should've gotten one of feeding a sandwich to his dog, not just another sandwich making one
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>>54908842
Because pic related jobs to evolutions and any rulebox attacker.
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>>54908842
because this still exists until next rotation
this will be the biggest nerf for lostbox
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Honestly, ive forgotten what lost box is even setting up for.

I know the dumb bird that does 110, which is only a threat if i cant set up.

What the hell is the other threat? Giratina? Is that it?
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>>54906994
Is a tie. You go to a tiebreak where the one that takes the first prize wins. I am guessing the game continues if there is another double KO there.
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>>54909289
Giratina, and Sableye, though the new Jirachi shits on it, so I'm guessing thats been dropped.
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oh right this thing exists what an obscure card
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bro just play 2 klefki, jirachi and manaphy and toedscruel so lost box can't beat you. you don't need bench spaces do you?
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>>54908044
I don’t understand what is happening here.

>>54909289
Sableye. If you don’t have a way to put the two they run in the lost zone, they’ll just shuffle it back with Super Rod.

Non-Giratina builds are usually taking advantage of the fact that they may only have to knock out three of your Pokemon to win while you may have to knock out six of theirs.

I think this is why non-Giratina is switching to running one copy of Radiant Zard so they don’t just shit themselves in front of a powered up Iron Hands.
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I only have 2 lumineon v’s in my deck. Why the FUCK is always my only card on the first turn
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>>54909260
It has a terrible matchup against single prize decks and there was a ton of garde. Miraidon ended up being the better racing deck because it has some recovery in Flaafy, and Iron Hands helps shore up the single prize matchup.
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>>54909333
*activates avery*
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>>54909260
cool but that cancer deck will still plague my locals for weeks
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>>54910075

god I wish I could play against it every game

t. gardevoir player
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Got spooked by someone with Dragonite V and another dragon 2-prizer in a lost zone deck. I hate how easy it is to just charge them with Mirage Gate
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I need a new Rayquaza.
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Solgaleo ex soon.
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>built Valiant Entei
>built Roaring Moon
>built Gholdengo
>now I want to build some bad Garchomp deck

someone stop me, I don't need all these decks IRL
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Roaring moon is great they said
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>>54912000
>someone stop me
Do it. You know you want to...
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>>54912021
It is great though.... in lostbox.
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The absolute state of modern control decks. Wasted half an hour of my life with this tryhard YouTube le meme deck of the week shit.
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>>54909271
>plays at least 2 Klefki on the bench every turn
Nothin' personnel.
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Pokémon: 10
1 Manaphy CRZ-GG 6
2 Rufflet ASR 131
2 Bibarel BRS 121
2 Vanilluxe PAR 45
3 Bounsweet PAR 8
2 Hisuian Braviary SIT 149 PH
2 Vanillite PAR 43
1 Jirachi PAR 126 PH
3 Tsareena ex PAR 46
2 Bidoof CRZ 111

Entrenador: 14
4 Irida ASR 147
2 Switch SVI 194
4 Rare Candy SVI 191
1 Super Rod PAL 276
4 Battle VIP Pass FST 225
2 Iono PAL 185 PH
3 Snorlax Doll PAR 175 PH
1 Town Store OBF 196
1 Pokégear 3.0 SVI 186
4 Ultra Ball BRS 150
2 Nest Ball SVI 181
2 Professor's Research SVI 189
1 Artazon PAL 171
2 Panic Mask LOR 165 PH

Energía: 1
7 Basic {G} Energy Energy 45

Lose everytime
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>>54913415
Vanilluxe doesn't wort the time and resources to set them up
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And this?

Pokémon: 11
2 Bounsweet PAR 8 PH
1 Manaphy CRZ-GG 6
2 Bibarel BRS 121
2 Bounsweet PAR 8
1 Jirachi PAR 126 PH
1 Mew CEL 11
1 Steenee PAR 9 PH
1 Radiant Hisuian Sneasler LOR 123
2 Brute Bonnet PAR 123
3 Tsareena ex PAR 46
2 Bidoof CRZ 111

Entrenador: 20
3 Ultra Ball SVI 196
4 Irida ASR 147
1 Switch SVI 194
1 Earthen Vessel PAR 163
1 Cheryl BST 123 PH
1 Escape Rope BUS 114
1 Path to the Peak ASR 213
1 Counter Catcher PAR 160
1 Hisuian Heavy Ball ASR 146
4 Battle VIP Pass FST 225
1 Dyna Tree Hill CRE 135
2 Iono PAL 185
2 Rare Candy PGO 69
1 Technical Machine: Devolution PAR 177
1 Super Rod PAL 188
2 Level Ball NXD 89
2 Nest Ball SVI 181
2 Ancient Booster Energy Capsule PAR 159
3 Arven SVI 166
1 Panic Mask LOR 165 PH

Energía: 1
7 Basic {G} Energy Energy 1

Or still is a meme deck?
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What are some ways I can easily damage my own Pokémon other than Gapejaw Bog?
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>>54913587
Garde
Steelix
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>>54913472
You're trying to do too much. You're never going to find a consistent gameplan if most of your cards are 1-ofs.
>>54913587
There are a couple of pokemon that hit their own bench for 10-30, but it depends on what deck you're playing since something like Hisuian Zoroark isn't going to be running Steelix for example
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>>54913587
Magma Basin, Old Cemetery, Calamitous Snowy Mountain. Garde ex isn't really "easy" and Dodrio only damage itself.
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>>54913594
>>54913597
>>54913610

Thanks.
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>>54913472
For whatever reason I've never found anyone playing single strike Tsareena
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Roaring moon is such a fucking joke lmao
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>playing lugia and bming people
man that's embarrassing
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>>54913831
Whats bming
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>>54913825
What sort of Roaring Moon deck plays Rattata
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>>54913831
lugia is garbage in this rotation bro, this isn't last rotation with amazing rares
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What products should a new player get/decks they should build?
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>>54913936
>this rotation
You literally haven't lost anything, and nothing has been added that decisively beats you. Just because the deck isn't as popular doesn't mean it's shit
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copium
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>find a fun psychic deck to enjoy
>cant enjoy it because ladder is swarmed with roaring moon f2p poorfags
why is weakness such a terrible mechanic
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>>54914031
just play garde then and farm them
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>>54913975
>You literally haven't lost anything
It lost lugia as the main attacker
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>>54914163
?

Lugia still wipes out anything with 220. Snorlax weakens everything else to under 220.

The only issue lugia has is its ability to get going, which was always an issue
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THEY'RE IN
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>>54914204
>just attack twice bro
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>>54914163
>oh no i cant ohko literally anything in the format any turn i want :( i can only ohko most things :(

shut the fuck up
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>>54913833
"Thumbs down'ing", I dunno.
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>>54914228
How is the one on the left shiny? How?
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I've seen a few here mention this and a few attempts by fans outside this board to make a fan alternative to the online tcg game like showdown (which failed). So here goes my ask to this board

>Would you all be interested in a online fan alternative to the official tcg game?

>Would you all be interested if not only I make a online tcg alternative, but also include a mode where we can finally balance this piece of shit cards so almost every card becomes usable? This would include a submission based survey where we take feedback on what cards to buff and debuff

I
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>>54914419
>balance
No.
I would welcome a banlist, however.
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>>54914298
It's clearly pastel pink instead of hot pink, god you boys are color blind.
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>>54914425
I’m saying there’s a normal mode with potential rule sets and optional bans and another completely separate mode where we balance all the cards

I’m not going to shove balance/revamped truly unlimited format down people’s throats but I do want to make it an option because the demand for old wotc cards and later sets from Nintendo and tpci is a thing
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>>54914439
Well then I wouldn't mind, but I also wouldn't use this "balanced" game mode. I guess first make sure enough people are interested.
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>>54914419
>Would you all be interested in a online fan alternative to the official tcg game?
it's a waste of time
>Would you all be interested if not only I make a online tcg alternative
no
>but also include a mode where we can finally balance this piece of shit cards so almost every card becomes usable?
fuck no
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>banlist
just play a new game already, snowflake
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>>54914526
I'm taking suggestions. Fire away.
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>>54914502
>it's a waste of time
Hello TPCi
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>>54914539
>Fire away.
I think fire should stay
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>>54914419
>>Would you all be interested in a online fan alternative to the official tcg game?
If I could actually play Expanded on it and people actually played it, yes.
>but also include a mode where we can finally balance this piece of shit cards so almost every card becomes usable?
Fuck off retard.
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>>54914550
It's a waste of time because you're ultimately going to get stomped out by TPCi's lawyers. If you want to waste the time go ahead, just know you're doing a largely fruitless endeavor for people who both do not want it and will not be appreciative
>>54914566
This is a good point, an active Expanded format would be good but PTCGL will eventually have the feature and maybe in a year or two the client won't also suck dick
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>>54914419
There already are alternatives and nobody uses them. Wouldn’t trust the general public to balance shit either.
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Casual that hasn't played in years looking for a kid's first deck. They discontinued trainer kits, right? Do they still do theme decks? If so, what are the best right now for a newcomer?
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>>54894528
anon just buy the card what the hell are you doing
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>>54915079
Saw the Battle Academy 3 deck set which seems to have replaced the trainer kit niche unlike the My First Battle kits. Should be straight forward decks so works for me
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>>54915079
You dont need a kids first deck. Play pokemon live and learn how to play again, and then you can go out and buy a level 3 deck (someone remind me of the name of them). Its not a hard game, tard
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>>54915224
Remembered. League battle decks are close to meta once you change them around a bit. You can also buy csrds from tcgplayer
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>>54882847
Never played TCG but I bought a Paradox Box and used all 36 codes, what good starting deck can I make?
Or what is a good starting deck from other expansions
Thx
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>>54915456
Roaring Moon deck.
Miraidon Deck
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>Play Roaring Moon deck
>Always getting shitty hands and lose

Nice meta bro
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Its dumb that live wont let you use cards that are currently in other decks.
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>>54914228
UNITED CHADS WE CAN'T STOP WINNING.
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Can we all agree Paradox Rift is one of the best sets to be released? I've never seen so many different viable strats.
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>>54915860
What
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>>54915913
I'm more than happy that Tsareena is actually being played and Klawf is meta-ish. It's actually nice to see variations of decks being played.
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>>54915913
Mew still shits on a lot of them. Give it a few months and we'll be down to only a few actually good decks.
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>>54915913
the rogue decks are fun but thats it -- theyre still rogue at the end of the day. Shit like LZB and garde still shit on every one of them and the rest of the cards are bulk tier.
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>>54883055
I'll give u code, but I don't have disc. Post ur normie pokemon Instagram. Also just beat a wugtrio player by not playing. He conceded
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>>54915913
I been playing arcanine and other deck is mew or charzard. Not playing roaring normie noob deck. Legit I want to try nidoking deck or the big crow pokemon
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these cowards really need to print better looking energy
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https://www.pokebeach.com/2023/11/shiny-treasure-ex-main-set-fully-revealed-features-new-reverse-holo-style
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>>54917222
>cum stain
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>>54917222
>Looking for 1 (one) holo water energy for my IRL deck
>See holo energy for fire, lighting, and fighting energy from Power Keeper, Holon Phantoms, and Emerald
>Find a shiny Water energy
>It's Call of Legends
Nice
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>Ability: Dazzling Light
>As long as this Pokémon is in the Active Spot, attacks used by your opponent’s Active Pokémon cost [C] more.
>[P] Psy Ball: 30+ damage. This attack does 30 more damage for each Energy attached to both Active Pokémon.
Seems viable.
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>>54917515
>As long as this Pokémon is in the Active Spot, attacks used by your opponent’s Active Pokémon cost [C] more.
*laughs in Gardevoir/Baxcalibur*
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>>54917515
Actually after thinking about it, +30 multiplier is pretty bad with big basic Pokemon having 230 HP huh
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Current streak of no Battle VIP on turn 1 and my opponent gets theirs: 47.
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Current streak of playing a deck with 30+ items and Poke Stop discarding nothing but Pokemon and Supporters: 19. Last two times in a row discarded Boss, Arven and Iono in that order.
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>>54917515
>lightning psychic yet again so Xatu can't get any variance of attackers
He'll be stuck to Mewtwo and Iron Hands forever just to shill Gardevoir.
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>>54917515
tpci when a grass mon gets printed so they have to give it the most retarded restrictions ever to avoid it ever reaching more than 180 damage
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Anyone knows some cheap and fun decks for Expanded who could still snatch some wins?
I don't know anything about the game, just played some pre-releases but my lgs is doing an expanded tournament so I'd like to see what it's like.
Really liked the United wings deck I played during one of the pre-release, so any deck where you spend half your turn just draw/discarding is a plus.
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>>54918123
Madparty
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>>54917515
I was going to say this could be a nice counter for dark types in Garde decks, but then remembered that GardEX can only attach to psychic.

Tera pokes in the TCG are such a retarded mechanic.
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>>54917515
>Ability work in the active
>give a shitass attack

what
were
they
thinking
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is the future booster energy capsule supposed to work only once per turn, or is it bugged in the game? I'm using it in my Iron Valiant deck and only one can retreat for free per turn, the next one has regular retreat costs despite the tool being attached
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>>54919158
retreating seems to be bugged in general, Iron Valiant also can't be retreated with a double energy attached to it, this game is a buggy shit show kek
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Best new card of the set, which isn't a high bar to clear
>KO miraidon ex, raikou V, cramorant, genesect V, rad zard for free
>Water shuriken for free
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>>54917250
>Each booster pack will also come with a guaranteed Pokemon ex.
That's not gonna be a thing when it comes state side, is it?
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>>54919158
You can only retreat once per turn with capsule or without it senpai. Capsule only reduces the cost to 0 but you still use your turn retreat
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>>54919403
damn all my life I had no idea about this rule
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>>54919296
Your opponent picks the attack
Miraidon will make you use flaffys attack
Lost box will make you use sableye's which will fail since you don't have 10 in the lost zone
It's only good vs mew but if they run meloetta you're cucked
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>>54919516
Wow, I misread the card the whole time since its reveal. I though it said 'active pokemon' and not 'any pokemon'.
The card is unplayable.
>It's only good vs mew but if they run meloetta you're cucked
Mew picks cross fusion strike (which fails) or energy mix.
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