hey so why the hell were regular poke balls (and by extension repeat balls, fast balls and sport balls) in the mainline games depicted as orange in their item icon and literally nowhere else in the game all the way up until gen 9
>>54514921Probably a palette issue they had in Gen3-4 then carried over to all the following games for cohesion till they entirely ditched the sprite icons. As an artist who also tried her hands at sprites before, red is kind of nasty to work with, with shading it tends to get too dark, or too pigmented. Often times a red-leaning orange shade gives a better feel.
>>54514968Pretty much this. Pink is really distinctive from red due to a problem our eyes have from processing NOTgreen so it's difficult to get clean gradients. Even in OP's pic the gradient on the right pokeball goes from obviously pink to red pretty harshly.
>>54514996there's absolutely nothing pink about the right PokeBall what are you talking about
>>54515011haha you have defective eyesight
Team Flare is described as wearing red when it's definitely more orange too. Might be a cultural thing?
>>54514968>red is kind of nasty to work with, with shading it tends to get too dark, or too pigmentedlooks perfectly fine and normal. that experience was probably you moving the hue shader w/out moving the value slider not accounting for perceptual differences in value between color. ywnbaw btw
>>54514921that's scarlet color
>>54514968thing is, even as far back as gen 3, it appeared as red in other areas like in battle or on the summary screen
>>54515030you cheated like hell on the shiny bit
>>54515030Now load up that sprite on a gba and see how it looks. It's a real issue from the old hardware that they just carried on even though the new hardware could process more colors just because that's how it was before.You clearly don't know what the fuck you're talking about because you don't have the slightest understanding of the issue described. You will never be as smart as you think you are
>>54514968Pic related: Voltorb from ruby. It uses 4 red shades (not counting the outline). It works just fine.
>>54515083Could also be an issue not just with what the GBA hardware could handle, but how it would look on a native hardware screen and the artists adjusting for that. Looking at emulated raw output on modern screens is very different compared to actual non-backlit GBA, or even DS phat, screens.
>>54515131that main red shade is orangethe highlight pink is very close to orangethe darkest lowlight shade is very nearly brown (read: orange)Thank you for demonstrating the point
>>54515131>>54515131It would look pretty dark and amateurish on the item sprite.They are all supposed to have colors leaning towards pastel shades because if you put darker colors on a small picture (item sprites are much smaller than Pokemon sprites) it will feel even more narrow and small to the human eye.The problem is that red doesn't really have a pastel shade per se so you're forced to either make it orange-y or pinkish.The Red Orb looks pink in Gen3 games as well.
>>54515197This too.The original GBA wasn't even backlit, they had to keep in kind that the darker a shade they used, twice as dark most players will see it on their screen.If I recall right, someone at GF did talk about this in an interview.
>>54514921>hey so why>hey so>hey
>>54515044? if it looks good it looks good>>54515208>it leans slightly orange so it's orangenothing is 255 0 0 red. its mainly red by far. stop being autistic
>>54514968>As an artist who also tried her hands at sprites beforeWhy do women
>>54515235the point is that the raw RGB colors chosen are then filtered through hardware and the human eye to get the desired color.
>>54515248thats not the point at all. your point was "it leans slightly orange so it's actually orange". it's actually red. if leaning slightly orange makes something orange, then nothing is red.
>>54515016nigger where is the pink on the right, are you colorblind?
>>54514921honestly it doesnt read orange to me. it just looks like the pokeball is getting hit by sunlight/some kind of yellow light
It's kind of funny how some people on /vp/ assume every single user was born male lol
>>54515261Yes. They are using ORANGE because it reads to the eye as RED. Presumably even moreso on actual hardware, I don't have my copy of Gen 3 around or I'd look.When you take those images out of actual hardware like OP's picture, the more they used orange to substitute red shades the more flat out orange the image looks.
>>54515240>womenWhere do you think you are?
>>54514921Because you need to take into consideration that it was all designed for washed up, low resolution screens of early Nintendo consoles.Niggas really just take screenshots from their goddamn emulators from their goddamn gamer PCs and be like "looook at these graphics~" when Gamefreak was working with shit that was barely a step-up from calculator's screen.
>>54515573Who do you think is posting in the husbando and pokeboy threads? 4chan's userbase is something like 30% female, and I wouldn't be surprised if /vp/ is closer to 45% just because of the broad appeal of Pokemon.
>>54514921just a pallet issue, same thing happened with the Lure Ball going from Teal to Green back to Teal again.
>>54514968 >>54514996 >>54515208 Drawcunts can be so insufferable. "It doesn't ACTUALLY count as red! look at all the pink! DEBOONKED!" I and any random hex tester could just as easily and autistically describe the "orange" Pokeball from OP as going L-R yellow to saffron to vermilion. So what is it then? What is the measurable point where something ceases to be red and becomes pink? Or the intricacies of yellow vs orange? Notice how not a single one of them responded to >>54515043 Conveying the color red is practically an impossible task without resorting to orange or looking obviously pink... except it was done over and over again decades ago under the exact same circumstances.