Pokémon Unite is a 5v5 MOBA where your objective is to score more points than your opponent. It's focused on quick matches w/ minimal downtime. For Switch, Android, & iOS.READ THE OFFICIAL GUIDE:https://www.pokemon.com/us/strategy/pokemon-unite-theia-sky-ruins-overview>Informationhttps://unite-db.com/https://uniteapi.dev/>Test Server (Needs VPN)https://publictest-pu.com/index.html>Upcoming- Leafeon (June 8)- Inteleon- Blaziken>Current- Umbreon is released- Eevee Appeal-o-rama Game Mode is released- https://www.serebii.net/pokemonunite/events.shtml- Patch notes: https://unite-db.com/patch-notesPrevious >>53853096
eeveefags are a blight
Messenger group chat when? Come on faggots, it takes too muxh using Shitscord and this shit general
>>53856821This is a great game with well thought-out gameplay and good balance and I can't think of many ways to improve it, but it could use some more stuns. On occasion of the Eevee event, Sylveon should finally have stuns added to his moveset. Stuns in general should be buffed to be more impactful.
mean look snarl is the play if you're solomean look wish if you have a premade
kill all eevee players
>machamp with submission slams me down and their Cinderace ults me in the face at the exact locationThey may be the enemy team but that was a cool combo.
>>53856843Messenger? I'm not connecting my real life to this shithole
>>53856848wish is TERRIBLE. barely any healing and it auto-targets to allies when you are gravely wounded
>>53856871you're the defender, youre supposed to die first so your allies can clean up the fight
>>53856848I like foul play and wish more
ok, can you stop griefing, owl?
:( We feed their backline so much so early we just lost on that
>>53856908What are you talking about?I had most damage, i kept myself at the proper positioning to snipe and deal precise damage and get kills.
>>53856848Yeah, I like Mean/Snarl.Keep them trapped then stun them with Snarl as soon as Meen Look ends.
>do either or you have critique?
>>53856935Wondering if either of you two wrote this>>53856908In which case I'm just curious what it is you think I'm doing wrong/could do better
not an eeveefucker, but I like Umbreon
>>53856942press A more
>default Umbreon is a male>dress holowear Umbreon is female InterestingI wonder why they didn't do the same for Sylveon
>entire team is playing like shit the entire match, including myself>manage to wipe out the enemy team at fug and secure it>enemy surrenders>win even though we were down by like 300 pointsThis game is a joke, lol.
>>53856988My damage was 30%, i moved in to basic attack when i could and it was safe other than that I keep myself in the right range to deal optimal damage with preferably walls between.
>>53856999>he thinks damage is importantyou can carry a game with 30k damage, you know
How do I carry as umbreon? We won fug and still got fucked. And zacian doesn't give a shit about mean look
>>53856991They might. They probably weren't thinking about it back then since Sylveon was the first time it mattered
>>53857036you hope your teammates follow up.
What pokemons are coming in september, october, november and december?
>>53856848Ive had success with Foul Play and Wish. I dont like how Mean Look plays
>>53857006Well it's certainly an indicator of how much I've participated in attacking enemies. But in any case no matter if you deal 20% 30% or 100% that doesn't guarentee you a win. Things happen
>>53857046Vaporeon, Flareon, Jolteon, Mewtwo, Aerodactyl, Starmie, Beedrill, Butterfree
>>53856821This new meta is sure going to be fun. Talonflame would have been perfect to assassinate eevees but now that Umbreon is here I'm not sure what he can do if there's anything around that can impact his mobility. 1. https://files.catbox.moe/sgy0re.mp42. Is anyone else having fun with speedsters with Gravity, Mean look, and imprison? I think I can see what the next meta will be and what can stand up to the metahttps://files.catbox.moe/63fs7r.mp4I really should have played TF more before umbreon was released. Could have been fun.
try to shoot your arrows a bit sooner and press A more. Trust your tanks more.
>>53857055>clipsMeh decentTF is really fun though! I've seen a ton of players running Scoring Shield and such backcapping to victory. It might be possible to carry alone with him
>>53857055How does fly interact with mean look?
So what are the odds raichu makes it in? Maybe alolan?
>>53857055>lands on Umbreon, gets mean looked>survives only to engage again and predictably dies
>>53857075You go up in the air but can't leave the circle
>>53857055I have a 40% WR with clefable, I wish I never bought her
>>53856821>tfw you try to feed a bad player kills and exp so they can become useful. https://files.catbox.moe/npd2va.mp4
should I bother with the eevee quest thing. do you get enough puzzles to get a license?
>>53857036you can't really carry, you just do your Umbreon thing and pray your teammates aren't braindead
>>53856821>when your character gets buffed and you truly believe you can do ANYTHING! https://files.catbox.moe/rrjdfe.mp4
I'll be honest, it's been a long time since we had worse teammates than that
>>53857115Well you're not wrong. I thought the Absol was acting weird... Anywho shit happens
>>53857036A defender is a defender is a defender, unless it's a poorly disguised all-rounder. You're very dependent on your team to take what you set up for them on a silver platter.
Kill all eevees.https://files.catbox.moe/wcuzhq.mp4
why am I dying in .2 seconds as tree
Greninja was pretty bad, but hey Owl did the job!
>>53857203Because you walk in alone and/or your team is retarded
>>53857203Because this burst meta has only gotten worse as time went on.
what a fucking amazing game
>>53856821>Half the team wants to fight over 3rd Regi>why not help them so half our team isn't dead during RayYou'll never guess how this impacted the Fug fight.https://files.catbox.moe/ei25s2.mp4
>beat three ttvfag in a row and none of them were streamingI guess they all gave up, lol.
Last one for me!
cool, rayquaza died in 1 second
how are you supposed to beat Cumbreon? that shit is unstoppable ALL THE TIME. power creep is fucking insane in this shitty chinese moba
>>53857740see>>53857138>>53857396And the one I haven't posted yet.
>>53857740Range.Don't play a Speedster.
>>53857748I'm not downloading your sussy files, bro.
>>53857740Also if you're gonna play Dragapult do NOT pick Dragon Dance, cuz Umbreon will just use Mean Look on you when you circle in and then have its team fuck you in the ass.
what are puzzle pieces for? other than symbolizing I have autism, of course
>>53857840Get 100 of a specific Mon and you get a free license
>>53857105Lmao outrage dragonites have always been braindead retards
>every single match of the Appeal gamemode is a steamroll >it's on Shivre City no less>if you don't have an Umbreon you have better odds of winning by closing the game>you HAVE to play the mode if you want a license, unlike the Pikachu event where it was just sort of there>can't even get the license until June because one of the eevees isn't even fucking out yet>missions are for the 3 other Eevees are impossible in this mode because they fold to Umbreon, a Defender with a bloated SpDef stat against 3 incredibly frail "mages">>>"Play with friends" missionsI think this takes the cake for worst event. Pika Party was loathesome but wholly optional. This is fucking cancer.
>>53856991Because Sylveon is an honest-to-God femboy.They'll probably change it later.
>>53857925It's your just punishment for still playing this flaming garbage heap of a game.
>>53857925just play cpu matches
>>53857748>YOU CAN KILL UMBREON IF IT'S ALONE, LOW ON HP, AND YOU PLAY ZACIANLolLmao
>>53858077you took the words right out of my mouth>How to beat umbreon guys?>Simply be a pedophile
>>53858077>Why do we need a healer when I can just go double lane cinder/frogYou'll never guess what happened next.https://files.catbox.moe/u69npd.mp4
>>53858172Why are you quoting me? I don't give a shit about your clips.
Is Slick Spoon + Energy Amp + Wise Glasses good for Pikachu? I see a lot of people choosing Choice Glasses over Wise and I'm not sure why.
>>53858178>I absolutely give a shit about your clips.This is an example of why you would NOT want to break all of an enemies goals before Fug. If all of their goals were broken they'd only need to defend a single point. And their defenses would be concentrated and even harder to break through. But since they have multiple areas to defend its easier to buy time for your allies to score. Good map awareness and understanding can really help win games that you shouldn't have won.https://files.catbox.moe/u69npd.mp4>in before, you could only do that because you had a level advantage. Correct this game is 99% about level advantages, and securing Rayquaza.
>>53858236But why the fuck are you quoting me? I didn't mention anything about Rayquaza or breaking goals. This is the saddest attempt to a get some (you) attention I've ever seen, Duelzz. Not getting enough epic upvotes on another site or something?
>>53857036You don't and tried to tell /Pug this when umbreon 1st dropped on pts so I'll say it again. Umbreon doesn't carry it is a mandatory defender that can hard counter the enemy teams carry. This means umbreon is relying on its teammates to follow up once it lock downs an enemy mon/carry. So yes Umbreon is not lapras.
>Four of the enemy is down>Me, Goodra, and Deci are up>Deci is the only one who can rip Rayquaza>But he's a retarded Deci player and goes for a backcap instead>Sableye backcaps twice and we lose
Shoutout to the enemy Blissey who picked Softboiled vs. my team with Espeon, Pikachu, and Slowbro.
can you get out of cumbreon's zone with escape button or teleport abilities?
>>53858464NoGet rekt gengar nigger
>>53858464Blinks/button no. I think Hoopa hole can get you out.
>>53858464probably only hoopa's teleports
>>53858479Probably Dragonite too.
I love duoQs on your team where one of them is playing Comfey and both of them are playing like fucking retards charging into the enemy nonstop! Of course you'll win a 2v5, you queued up together after all and one of you is Comfey!
>wait in bush as gengar>ambush an eevee>forget their passive to ignore cc so I miss shadow ball>30 sec respawn at fugFug
Duelzz yo faggot, WHY ARE YOU QUOTING ME YO NIGGE'?! I AIN'T BUYIN' YOU SHIT BRO.Also, stop harassing my wife, please. She has to go to work, and it's hard when someone masturbates on the subway with a spongebob suit put on.Thanks!
>>53858464Nope, it's THE ultimate wall.Can't dash out of itCan't eject out if it.Can't Fly out with Talon.Can't fly away with Zard's ult.Can't play a Speedster or any dive-mon at all or else you just get caught and die.Basically the only way to not get caught is to play long-raged mons that can stay out of Mean Look's range
>>53858665We know its you duelzz
>>53858682thanks for the actual answer, unite-db had nothing>>53858483fuck off Duelzz, none of those clips were relevant and you are a pedophile
I think I've played Appeal-o-Rama 8 times so far today, won 1, MVP most games. It's soooo unbalanced.
>playing umbreon>water bear tries to dive my team>catch him with mean look and then he fucking dies>second eleki fight>water bear is kinda dancing around away from the fight cuz he knows i'm watching him, and that if he tries to go in he'll get caught>his team is getting rekt so he eventually jumps in to fight>catch him with mean look and then he fucking dies>for the rest of the match he turns tail and runs anytime i show upI've never seen a Water Bear so deathly afraid of fighting before.It's like the threat of Slowbro's ult, only it's up all the time instead of once every minute and half or so.Shit's cash.
>Our Lapras, our only defender is protecting the bottom goal from a FUCKING SLOWBRO>Meanwhile there's a 4v4 war at Top for about 4 minutes8 wins in a row, now brokenIt was a good run,
Doing over 110k damage easy, thanks for buffing my main timi
Guys, I think the counter to this Eevee spam is Pikachu. I've played 10 games with him so far and haven't lost one.
>>53858777Are you playing Magechu?Cuz I imagine Umbreon would just use Mean Look on you if you tried to Volt Tackle in, especially since it can ignore CC for a bit.
>>53858735>8 wins in a rowWhat mons do you usually play?
>>53858785Volt Tackle + Electro Ball. But it's the Ult that is the game changer. Everytime I've been pressed by three Eevees at my goal, objective, or fug, I am able to wipe them or bring them down to 10%. These teams are guaranteed to have Eevees, it's great.
I haven't gotten a 1600 sticker since 2021.I think my reflexes are just too shot
>>53858832You're not grinding enough.Even a retard like me can get to 1600 just by spamming matches until the numbers fall in my favor.
>>53858832If you're a decent player with no moral compass, just run Glaceon or Zacian.
>>53858464You can leave Umbreons's niggerhole by:>Getting on Lapras Express>Attaching as Comfey>Hoopa Hyperspace Hole and Hyperspace Fury teleportUnknown as of now: >returning teleports like Phantom Force or Volt SwitchWon't work:>regular dashes of any kind>eject button or full heal>shoving abilities from other mons>"flying" like dnite ult or fly
I like how nobody dares steps forward to an objective when an Umbreon is there
>Appeal-o-rama lets you finally run Assvest with no fear because all eevees not named umbreon use spatk>It's still a meh item
/Pug I need help. How do I increase my A9 damage? I seen other A9 reach 140k to 150k easily.Am I doing something wrong? My emblems are 7black/6green all gold but I try to shift most of the embelm stats to Sp-atk.My held items are choice/spoon/wise.I like X-speed more over eject since it lets me get to the top or bottom goals quicker if in a hurry while also letting me reposition.
>>53858823>Ult that is the game changerhttps://files.catbox.moe/c88kqc.mp4
Got Umbreon free for stage 2 of the event and I kinda like itHow busted it? I don't want to spam broken units if I don't have to but the full stun build feels so nice to play. Haven't even experimented with the unpassable wall of fuck melee
>>53858979It's really sad you keep randomly replying to people because it's the only hope you have at an audience to watch your "epic clips".
>>53858985If the enemy has a speedster or some other mon that needs to get in close then they just don't exist.The second they caught in the Fuck You Zone they just run around helplessly then die.Even Big Bad Water Bear has to think twice before diving in, it's great.
I have nothing witty to sayZacian and Comfey players all deserve to go to the deepest layer of hell
>imprisoned by chandelure so i can't use my moves>get gravity'd by clefable so i can't dash>get mean look'd by umbreon so that even when i can dash again i can't go anywhere>if i somehow survive all that then i get stunned by snarl by the time mean look wears offSpeedsters other than Dodrio and buff Zorro were already feeling like shit, but I guess this just seals their fate.
>>53858979Ignore that drooling nigger, give us some more clips
People talking about mean look so much but snarl is the real piece off shit move. Long ass aoe stun on a low cooldown so just stand next to the guy that has been carrying the game and suddenly no melee pokemon can hit them.
>>53858986>epic clips>randomly https://files.catbox.moe/lxszuq.mp4
>>53859129Mean Look/Snarl is fucking disgusting.Can't escape, and as soon as you're able to you get stunned and die anyway.
>>53859166The old classic >Du Elz Z special
>tfw you backcap with your jungler like an idiot while your other teammates 3v5 at regibot right before fug>they actually almost kill them down there 3v5 and we just come over to clean upOut fucking skilled.
I've seen Foul Play get used once throughout all the matches I've seen, and this seems like its biggest and/or only use.
So, any of the garde moves has crit?
>Try to use Eevees for once for the event>Actualy find them fun...B-bros...
>>53859228Yea they're broken easy to use mons meant for beginnersThere's a reason Mario feels so good in smash bros
>>53859218Zacian main, can confirm its annoying as shit
>>53859263Just kill it.
>>53859218Foul Play followed by Snarl is all I've been using>>53859255I've never liked how Mario felt in smash bros. Kirby is way more fun.
look at these numbers bous
>>53859223Mages tend to not have crits, as a matter of principle.
>>53858375just had this happen with my team's blissey and im so fucking salty right now
>>53858236>>53858178>>53858240Just realized I posted the wrong link.https://files.catbox.moe/988n34.mp4
>>53857925>you HAVE to play the mode if you want a license, unlike the Pikachu event where it was just sort of there You can do the eevee missions in any mode though?
Have people stopped complaining about Zacian yet?
>>53859709>>53858236This is right you knowYou all should be grateful to Duelzz for having patience to try to teach you how to play
>>53859862Duelzz not only are you not even in the top tier of players anymore, but you are also claiming to have vastly better understanding of the game than those who are much higher. That doesn't compute
Anyone up for some lobbies?
>>53859866you're quoting the wrong person
>>53859926No that's duelzz as well
>>53859953it isn'tthat's me
>>53858953I go choice, spoon and focus. Glasses is 7% special increase on a 20-80% scaling moves, so it just doesn't seem worth it to me. Eject is better for escaping and will come handy when Blizzard is on cooldown. I guess I prioritize surviving over bigger numbers, hitting more damage overall, but 120k is by no means bad.
>i play like a demon and win >game gives me worse teammates for the next match>i play like a demon again, 15 kills, 100k damage but lose >game still gives me bad teammates for the next match >i'm depressed and play like shit and we lose by a thousand points >game gives me a bot match and the cycle continues these devs are dogwater
>>53859988The base scaling of moves isn't what's important in regards to wise glasses, it's the ratio of scaling to flat damage and how high your SpA is.
Unfortunate game. I knew the moment we gave Glaceon those three kills early it was over :(
DID YOU FUCKING SEE THAT ANON!
>>538600384 games total a good one and 3 bad ones 2 wins and 2 losses end result is that you still climb anyways while having an overwhelmingly negative experience sounds about right
Ty for games anon 3 for 4 right?
>>53857046Meowscarada, Mimikyu, Gyarados, Falinks and Metagross, but hopefully they will do a anniversary sprint like last year and release way more than these
>>53860117How many did they release last year? Like 6 right?
>>53860128In total it was 18, but is was way more the second half of the year. Dunno the dates exactly
>>53860128https://game8.co/games/Pokemon-UNITE/archives/338283There you go. It was 8 fist half of the year and 10 the other halfIt'd be natural for every other moba to slow down on character releases, but in this case they have a lot al ready done so who knows how many they'll pump out
Anyone up for games/Lobbies?
Creating Lobby! - Waiting 5-10 minutes I'll play for about an hour or so, but lets get some wins regardless! ID: 99770022
Muscle band or razor claw as a third item for foul play wish Umbreon?
Aren't you afraid of Duelzz entering your lobby with his other account?
>>53860652What other account?
>>53860659>>53860652And suddenly fear struck all /pug/ lobbies
>>53860648Buff Weight/Eos CookieOnly really need a couple stacks for it to pay of
>>53860652I'm fine with it, he cute.
Oh hey you can cleanse Mean Look with Unstoppables if you use them during the half second when the eye is closed.
>espeon and glaceon's ability blocks mean lookShit.
>Entire enemy team is Eeveemons + Clefable>We have Scizor, Ttar, Deci, Greedent, and Pikachu>Should be an easy game, right? They're all squishy>But the entire enemy team gets Ult at lvl 8>Our meleemons are getting hyper-kited and ganked by Mean Look + Glaceon>They snowball us>They rip through objectives>We loseWho is the dev who wants to fuck all the Eevee evolutions again?
>>53860983you should have had a healer and maybe a better defender.
Every team I go against has so much range, I can't deal with it.
>>53861026play a speedster that can close the gap instantly and burst those squishy down.
>>53861026It's because I don't wanna touch that bitch with a 10 foot pole.
>>53860983Me. I'm the dev and I ONLY play eevees.
>>53861010Hindsight is 20/20 in soloQ when you don't know what the enemy team is picking.
>>53861026Try Gardevoir. I've found a lot of success with it because of all the ranged Glaceon/Espeon players flooding servers. She's painful to play if you don't have at least one tanky guy on your team who can be in front of you during teamfights, though.
>>53861082Are you dumb? You should have a healer every match. That's probably one of the main reasons that they won because they had a healer that kept them in the fight longer and they didn't need to go back to base to heal.
>>53861052>get fukt by mean look and dieNo.
>>53861091Post your last ten games right now. See how many healers are on both teams and see how people win despite not having a healer, even if the enemy team does.That's not the make-or-break factor for team comp's and it's retarded to think you'll always have a healer in soloQ.
>>53861127>he doesn't fill in as a healer or defender>he's going lane owl even though everyone else is also attackers and speedsters
>>53861171>He assumes I was the OwlI went Pikachu thinking we needed some CC for our meleemons and that Volt Tackle would help them secure kills.
>>53861192>I went Pikachu thinking we needed some CC for our meleemons and that Volt Tackle would help them secure kills.I'm going to explain something to you. You will very likely disagree. But I assure you that I'm correct and demonstrably so.Ttar is useless without a healer. Defenders can't reach their full potential without a healer. I'm not saying you're wrong for picking Pikachu but your team needed a healer far more than it needed another squishy damage dealer. No amount of CC that you provide is going to keep ttar in the fight. Ttar deals a lot of damage, and is bulky. What helps keep him in the fight is extending his health bar.I want to imagine that you're playing Pikachu in place of the healer. Do you think the TTar would have been able to survive and kill everyone with a Pikachu there instead of a healer?https://files.catbox.moe/lbwf3k.mp4
>WHY DIDN'T YOU GO THE HEALER YOU RUINED THE GAME FOR YOUR WHOLE TEAM>WHY DIDN'T YOU TRUST THE RANDOM TTAR PLAYER TO BE GOATED YOU SHOULD'VE POCKETED HIMI've played my fair share of healers in soloQ. It's always a gamble and extremely frustrating when you're stuck with bad teammates-- moreso frustrating than if you went attacker. Sometimes, I just don't want to do it. The idea that you're trying to say it's my fault we lost the game and not the fact that Mean Look and Icicle Spear are busted right now is laughabl. Also, Ttar would've been useless because of Mean Look and Icicle Spear, retard. >It's DuelzzHoly fuck, can you start putting in a name in your field so I can filter your shitty posts? I'm not even going to give you a (you) because I'm disgusted I'm even giving you a response at all.
>>53861278This isn't your wr playing supporters is it? Even with supporters you should be 55%+, especially with a 100 game+ sample size. My guy you're not that good, it's ok.
>>53861303Duelzz, you don't even have 100 games COMBINED with all the healer characters, lmao.
Please stop replying to it.All it wants is attention.
>>53861321I'm not him.
>>53861336Post your API then
>>53861278Anon I know healers can be unreliable in SoloQ because you're supporting shitters but sub 50% is quite suspect
>>53861352Nice duoQ farm stats :)
>rotate to a lane>teammate abandons their lane to farm my camps as soon as they spawn>leaves their goal completely open while doing thisI want to fucking strangle these kids
>>53861303>>53861352Either >>53861355 or you've just admitted to having low MMR.
>>53861355>>53861362This is some shitter cope.
>>53861373>>53861374Post API to prove otherwise. Simple as.
>>53861358>next game>blastoise just walks into the jungle after no communication>saves his abilities to try to steal campsWith HotS being the last moba I played I forgot how much of a pain it is to have selfish retard teammates. Game might've died but they were onto something by making XP teamwide and preventing snowballing or serious hard carries.
>>53861373>>53861374Concession accepted.You know you can't carry as support, which means you have teammates that do, which in turn means you have low MMR, because the game wouldn't pair you with them otherwise.
>EXP share, Leftovers Jungler Zacian>We still win handily>He actually knew how use to the charging mechanicsIt almost seemed like a handicap.
>>53861321The average win rate of all of Duels healers is 64.25% which is incredibly high. This would suggest someone who is extremely skilled at healing.>>5386127848+49+43+50 is 190. 190 divided by 4 healers is only 47.5%.A 47% winrate would suggest that you have some gaps in your game knowledge and positioning and macro. If you'd like I can give you advice on items and builds for healers so that you can improve.
>>53861396>Inflating your WR with standard games>Favoritemons are Support (Not just healers), meaning you get paired with better players>Actual WR for this season is 53%, not even an average of 55% that he claimed most healers should haveLolLmao
>>53861415>extremely skilled at healingImagine having the gall to type something like this.Healing means jack shit if the guy you're giving it to doesn't know what he's doing.
Imagine thinking a sub 50% wr is ok for a supporter
I am the most skilled Comfey player AMA
>>53861489>Got called out for his own stats>Is now trying to pretend to be a different anon
>>53861456A majority of those standard games were Season 1 before the mobile apocalypse, of course they don't matter.Obvious bullshit based on a random assumption.Wasn't me who made that claim, that's some wack random bullshit and the winrate for those 4 mons collectively this season would be 66%. It's been my Defenders lacking lately, they're not doing so hit on this Zacian / Eevee meta and I'm not really interested in Goodra or Lapras.Hopefully I can fix my Comfey gameplay and get it higher than 53% though, not liking that one. Mostly a result of bad habits such as getting stuck on a bad player for too long instead of just dipping and recalling to a better fit.
>>53861522>Has a sub-55% WR>Uh uh uh uh it's because of uh uh uh Maybe you're just not that good, anon.
>>53861537point to where I said I was
>>53861541It's called an implication. When you say, "Hurrrr if you can't get above 55% as support maybe you're not good", you're putting that same expectation on you. You fail to get 55% WR this season. So maybe you also aren't that good.
>>53861547Again, that wasn't me. I just said sub 50% is a little suspect.
>>53861522>It's been my Defenders lacking latelyI think I found the source of your problem.
>>53861561>Again, that wasn't meWhat? I'm genuinely confused by this bit right now.
>Enemy Sylveon and Umbreon gun for our side of the bush and kill me before Fug>The enemy team ambushes the rest of us before we can properly group upDon't they know to have even a sense of respect for a fair fight.
>We have Deci jungler>They have Deci jungler>Ours goes Razor Leaf>Theirs goes Spirit Shackle>Ours keeps ripping objectives and gets sniped by the Spirit Shackle>This happened for two times with the Regis and then AGAIN with Rayquaza>He pings "Thanks!" afterwards as if that wasn't directly his fault
>>53861563And I will throw even more games as Crustle tonight while complaining about Zacian and Eevees. Fuck yeah.>>53861568my first post was >>53861352 after that Anon, no relation to them whatsoever
>>53858953>>53859988>>53860039Wise glasses focus on the users high spA so running wise is solid on A9 since it has that high base spA.You can increase A9 damage more if you run Goal specs with 6 stacks over choice but honestly goal specs isn't worth it since A9 is fragile and doesn't have much good early game stacking. I also don't see the need to run focus band but I can get why you run it so A9 isn't as fragile or to help reduce the chances of an death when trying to use Snow globe.Best way to increase your damage is getting to lv 13 as fast as possible because Blizzard+ damage spikes extremely high where you are 2 shot combo majority of defenders with blizzards tick damage and base damage.Another helpful advice is trying to use Snow globe when enemies are frozen as that deals additonal damage.But if your doing 120k damage consistently and carrying games you are fine then. Eject/x-speed are both good escape tools so take your pick, Eject is just instant, while x-speed is more for playing a game of tag either chasing or pursuing.
>It's another Zeroara going to backcap during ray and dies episodeReruns are the worst
>>53861588In that case, saying it's "is quite suspect", it's really not. With this being my first MOBA (Which is not uncommon for this game), I had to learn how a lot of the characters functions which probably gave me a lot of losses early on. For example, Snorlax and Slowbro are sub-50% because I chose them first while having no understanding of the game-- I only picked them because I really liked those Pokemon. Once I got to Ranked, I gradually stopped playing Standard. In fact, I almost never played Support in Standard except maybe to see how they control. It's possible your WR stats for Support are inflated because you have three times as many Standard games. For perspective, even though you have more games played TOTAL than I do, I have more gamed in Ranked than you. Which means you have at least 2000 games from Standard+Quick that could've inflated your Support WR. One of your favorite mons is MrMime, and we know he was busted at some point and it's possible you played him a bunch during that period. This suspicion of inflated WR is supported (lol) by the fact that you can't get above 55% in the current season when that was the number you chose to be the determining factor for how well soloQ supporters should perform. I could throw around my own numbers and go, "SEE MY WR FOR ALL MY ATTACKERS? SEE MY WR FOR THS CURRENT SEASON?", but we know that's not the whole story. Most of my Cinder games could've happened during the Zap meta when it was easier to snipe him, my Venu games could've been from when GigaDance was hyper busted. My current season WR is because I cheesed with Zacian and Lapras. I also have 200 less battles than you this season, so the % can obviously go down the more I play. To just see a number and go, "THAT'S PRETTY SUSPECT" for Support soloQ and then cite your own numbers as a reference is just not a good argument. Most of us here know that playing Support in Ranked SoloQ is one of the biggest gambles you can do in this game.
>>53861658Simple mad because bad.
>>53861629I've noticed people who main Zeraora and Talonflame tend to make the worst decisions. It's like they're still playing them from when they were released and kinda OP, but they haven't changed up their gameplay since getting stat changes with new metas.
>>53861698Kinda disappointed I got such a lame response as a concession. Would've preferred nothing, actually.
>>53861658Look man, if you're gonna stick to this "55% for soloQ supporters" thing when I've already said that wasn't me then I really don't know what to tell you. You can have a 51% winrate for all I care. I just don't think it's right to blame the game when you're dropping below coinflip percent and that maybe it's time to reflect on your gameplay. I'm dropping my Scyther because it's performing abysmally and no amount of "zacian meta" cope can change that, I'm just making terrible decisions with it.
>>53861563I hate crustle players. Just go blastoise, Mamoswine, lapras, goodra, slowbro, Trevenant, umbreon instead
>>53861716>t. got oneshot by a critsle
>>53861712Okay, anon. When the season resets in a month, I want you to play 100 games of support only in ranked and come back and show us the current season WR%, okay?
>>53861563>Stealth Rock/Rock Tomb in current meta
remember when we had that anon who only played blissey and made it high masters every timethis shitter would not be able to handle their presence
>>53861742I did that one season a long time ago. I posted my 10 win streak solo blissey in the thread.
>>53861742Anyone can get to high masters if they play enough. I had a fucking 1700 Masters 47% Wr player on my team the other day.
>>53861759I remember thatgood shit
>>53861725Nothing will change for him because of how matchmaking and MMR work.This is the reason >>53861742 can easily happen and a high MMR player trying the same would struggle.
>>53861769Damn bro you saved that? I feel honored.
how can I stream the PTS? My capture card doesn't recognize my cheapo moto stylus android phone
>one anon says your supports should always be 55% or higher>another anon posts a screenshot where two of them have sub 55%>clearly they must be the same person
>>53861771NTA can you or someone explain how the MMR works in this game? I've read /pug/ posts saying it's dependent on what characters you play the most. Like, if you play only Wigglytuff, you get better players, but if you play Greninja, you get worse teammates. But I thought it was based on wins, consecutive wins, and current ranking. What if you decide to just start playing a different mon and not Wiggly for several games? Does MMR change?
I am officially 50/50 on whether WR matters or not. On the one hand, if it's low it's usually on players who spam thanks, surrender, and generally troll the team and throw games. On the other hand, an average player like myself who had a 60 or so WR at the season's start can get dragged down by such players until I now have a roughly 49% or so WR for the season. So now, on paper, a bunch of people here would look at the first strawman I mentioned, and look at me, and think we are the same, when our gameplay skills overall are vastly different.
>>53861780Imagine posting on 4chan and not knowing why people say "not that anon".
>>53861787The answer will change depending on who you ask and personal biases because nobody here is an actual TiMi dev
>>53861771>high MMRexcuses >>53861391>You know you can't carry as support, which means you have teammates that do, which in turn means you have low MMR, because the game wouldn't pair you with them otherwiseCope>>53861362>admitted to having low MMR.more cope>>53861456>>Favoritemons are Support (Not just healers), meaning you get paired with better playersPure 99% Copium of the highest grade.
>>53861796Wr matters some. If you're a sub 55% wr overall in ranked I'd be slightly concerned. But if that anon was like 54-55% wr and goes deep into ranked every season getting around 1900-2k+ then I'd be less concerned. Most people here don't play that much and their season is mostly done after 1600 and think they're good when they're just above average.
>>53861796I use low WR as a confirmation bias. Like, if I have a shitter that is backcapping during Ray, not rotating lanes, going for Eleki and not bottomRegi, then when I check their API and it's 48% I think to myself, "Of course". It doesn't do anything for me other than help me cope over a shitty loss. We could've still lost with a team of 55%+ players, but having someone to blame makes the loss easier to deal with. The games where my teammates are all 55% and we're winning and rolling and then one or two players make a bad play at Rayquaza and we lose are the extremely frustrating ones. Those are the ones that stick with me for like, 20 minutes after the game has ended and causes me to tilt for the next game. If you need to use WR as a measurement of someone's skill, you're just a statistics faggot. You should be able to just see in the game a person's performance and be able to tell if they know what they're doing. All the people who post about WR or going "post your API" should be saying "post your gameplay" instead, but that's way more work so no one does it.
>>53861840Funnily enough the two people who actually post their api when asked are the two people who actually post gameplay clips.
>>53861787>>53861796Imagine if certain stats mutually rose higher with majority of players who won their matches. Let's say lower deaths, higher kills, more damage, more experience earned, more objectives etc.Let's not even say which but say certain ones have a higher correlation to winning than others. Now let's assume that besides your Ranked Rating there was a hidden number that tracked how much of those other correlated to winning stats. Let's call this "Impact Score."Now imagine that there are 2 different players but both have a similar win rating and similar ranked rating but both have very different pokemon that they play and have very different impact scores. One is higher than the other and one is lower. My theory is that the game works like this and if you have someone spamming PreNerf Zacian/Spintoise their Impact will be much higher so the only way to balance them with and against other players is to place players with much lower impact scores on their team. That's just my take after seeing what my usual kill/death ratios, points scored, and objectives secured when I do really well and still struggle to win games but then I see some guy playing a character that can't do what I do often and only put up half my kills and damage but seem to have a much easier time winning. Maybe its just cope and maybe they're just better at macro than myself.
>>53861830You need to seriously readjust your numbers. Getting 2000+ since Theia was dropped is deserved for trios and 5-stacks.
>>53861870"total battles" being total battles played entirely, or just for the season?
>>53861873heh, *posts ur greedent wr*, actually ur bad
Can we just agree that everyone's fucking retarded?
>>53861840>If you need to use WR as a measurement of someone's skill, you're just a statistics faggot. You should be able to just see in the game a person's performance and be able to tell if they know what they're doing. All the people who post about WR or going "post your API" should be saying "post your gameplay" instead, but that's way more work so no one does it.pretty based and reasonable take>going for Eleki and not bottomRegipretty cringe, you shouldnt just ignore eleki, that's how your opponents end up sending it into your second goal or home goal and dunking an extra 200 points or so if your team doesnt surrender from demoralization by then
>>53861854Someone other than Duelzz regularly posts gameplay? >>53861873It's a step-up from just posting WR or API, but small 10 - 30 second snippets still don't show off your overall knowledge of the game. Even shitters can post killstreaks, it happens on the UNITE subreddit all the fucking time.
Niggas, Why non of you upload the /pug/ /soft/ lobby matches?
>>53861858isnt this entire post basically how the MMR in this game is confirmed to work?
>>53861854>>53861873And nobody thinks he's good, even the clips he posts like this aren't good. A sword killing an owl by using its unite and then killing a ivysaur 2 levels lower. Yawn.
>>53861873nice aegislash duel there, but duelzz, you're still a massive faggot. also sucks that you missed the ivysaur with your unite, wouldve made it even easier for you
>>53861899>you shouldnt just ignore elekiI never said that, but I'm referring to the players who don't rotate to bottom for the first spawns, farm later in the game when bottom Regi spawns and then only go for the top, or both Regis spawn and they think top is more important than bottom. There are so many players out there who think top Regi is THE SHIT and just refuse to go bottom all game.
>>53861884Entirely, includes standard, quick and bot matches.
>>53861900Not regularly, but gamingwow is one of the few people that does post clips. Usually just funny stuff though like the Espeon trying to score 0 points.I could say other examples of clippers/api posters but I don't want to turn the thread into namedropping.
>>53861903>Niggas, Why non of you upload the /pug/ /soft/ lobby matches?because I don't have permission and I don't know if everyone is comfortable having their name shown. Look at how much hate Duels gets. He's such a great player and so very knowledgeable about the game but since everyone can see his name it turns out bad. We wouldn't want that happening to everyone.
>>53861900I used to post webms all the time, then I got lazy and just uploaded to catbox. Took a long break and now I'm sorta back, might post some new stuff in the near future.
>>53861927in that case what does >Getting 2000+ since Theia was dropped is deserved for trios and 5-stacks.mean in this context?
>>53861922Oh I would never ignore any objective, top or bottom. Getting them all (or trying to) is the best and most efficient way to win
>>53861944Anon meant this number, your ELO or whatever UNITE likes to call it.
>>53861941LMAO duelzz samefagging >He's such a great player and so very knowledgeable about the gameshut the fuck up duelzz youre ultra 3 while i'm master 1828 and regularly get paired with and against big-name streamers and content creators.
>>53861904>isnt this entire post basically how the MMR in this game is confirmed to work?Idk. this is just my current theory after years of testing and thinking about it. https://files.catbox.moe/84uur9.mp4
>>53861955Oh, okay, well what does "deserved" mean then? like it's harder for them and they deserve it? Wouldnt it be the opposite? arent the three stacks playing lately the ones that pair up comfey and zacian or glaceon or whatever is considered most OP at the time?
>>53861956>he's only 1828oh no no no no
I tried doing bot matches in catch em for that puzzle mission and they feel genuinely impossible to win. Enemy AI always deathballs and friendly AI is seemingly programmed to avoid you at all costs.
>>53861956>regularly get paired with and against big-name streamers and content creatorspost your gameplay of you killing them. https://files.catbox.moe/qebldo.mp4
>>53861961404 error>>53861966I also play solo queue only, let's be realistic, maybe less than 5% (and I know this for a fact because I'm globally ranked in the top 5000) reach anything above 2500 by abusing combos like Zacian/Comfey in 5-stacks, or anything else meta that they can hard grind with
>>53861979how could you even be playing with indie if this is current season when he's what like 1700 and youre ultra 3? how old is this clip?also i dont have a capture card, at best I can take short clips on switch. how do you guys upload your gameplay anyway?
>>53861903I have quite a few clips saved from our recent lobbies but it's generally just me making le ebin reddit plays.Also, the>because I don't have permission and I don't know if everyone is comfortable having their name shownpart from >>53861941
>>53861978It’s funny how the ai is programmed to ult you even if the attack won’t actually hit you, the amount of times I’ve had talonflames ult into a wall is staggering.
>>53861987that's pretty based, a few of the regular posters here come off as pretty big psychos that make kiwifarmers look well adjusted
>>53861986>how could you even be playing with indie if this is current season when he's what like 1700 and youre ultra 3? how old is this clip?Because I used to play enough where I would get high enough ratings to match with and against those players. I do not play much anymore and especially not ranked. I liked the boss rush mode though. That was fun.
>>53862002>I do not play much anymore and especially not rankeddespite that ive argued with you many times in these threads (assuming it wasnt someone trolling pretending to be you) I have to admit I empathize with this statement, been playing less and less myself. I get my 2-3 ranked wins in a day, maybe duo with my gf, and hop off. the longer I stay on, the worse things seem to get. I've noticed even wholesome chungus forced positivity streamers like Spragels getting tilted with ranked matches recently.
>Play Blissey>My lane partner is Chamander >He's running goal-getter>He steals our Absol's jungle three times>He backcaps during Rayquaza>He ends game with 33k damage
>>53861986Make some throwaway twitter, link it to your nintendo account, save video with the switch record button and upload the video thereyeah uploading without a capture card sucks and that's why people don't really do it
>>53861986>>53862045You can also upload them directly to your phone (or a laptop in theory), and to catbox from there.
>>53862045maybe i will make a throwaway unite account/nintendo ID for this, and I'll start doing it. Problem is I dont want to start from scratch, think of all the emblems and item enhancers I'd have to grind for a second time? idk...
>>53862073Your Unite account is separate from your Nintendo one, no need for that. If you just go to your Gallery and hit the Upload or Transfer button or whatever it'll give you the option to link to Facebook or Twitter.Or you can do >>53862070 with the QR codes, I never really use my phone though so I'm doing it to the clunky way.
>>53862002Not this guy, but for context on matchmaking, I used to regularly get paired up with Indie/Inder around 8PM - 10PM EST times just because we happen to be on the same coast (East Coast) despite me having a 200 point difference.
>>53862096Yeah I've been paired with ghatlue, literally the highest ranked player right now, in the same matches where I have some 1400 46% winrate lane Cinderace tier teammates on my team. Sometimes the game just does shit.
>>53862108against ghatlue*The game would never be that kind to me.
>queue up for ranked>realize that I'm going to have to hard carry 4 retarded mouthbreathers for 10 entire minutes>cancel matchmaking>close gamephew, nearly avoided that one
This nigga Gaylzz has been posting and bragging about his KKpult gameplay all this fucking year, holy shit, what a hack.
>>53861628Shouldn't A9 jungle then?
>FOUR PLAYERS DOWN>JUST ONE PIKACHU LEFT>MY URSHIFU+BLISSEY FEELS THE NEED TO CHASE HIM INSTEAD OF GETTING RAYQUAZA>SHOCKER WE FUCKING LOSE
>>53862108I was global #94, right above Ghatlue, for the first week or so of this season, before I took step back and didn't play for a few days. By the time I came back, I was pushed to something like global #8000 something.
>>53862151Not them but a Blizzline probably shouldn't be doing that as it doesn't have the best range or escape options so getting caught out is an easy feed to your enemies, plus you're giving up a pretty good lanemon. Better off being a hard hitter/stunner that isn't afraid to trade lives than have to worry about preserving your life all game.
>>53862161Letting even one enemy live often results in Fug getting sniped and the enemy getting fat shield after they respawn.
>>53862202It's a Pikachu. He can't snipe without committing, which he would certainly die in four hits if our Urshifu saw him coming out of a bush.
>>53862161>>53862202>>53862241irrelevant argument as long as we don't know the pikachu's urshifu's and blissey's health and movesets as well as the respawn timer of every single player, the time left on the clock, Ray's HP, the player's positions, the goal zones left and the points difference. I'd ask for APIs but I already know how they'd look like.
>>53862166>I was global #94nice>for the first weeklol
>>53862293post your gameplay
>>53861352hey, why would you not run rescue hood on those first 3? it's really good, even on something like Scizor/Goodra that only heals itself
>>53862335>even on something like Scizor/Goodra that only heals itselfnice job outing yourself as a fucking retard lmao
>>53862344just what is your problem? go back to sleep and wake up in a better mood
>>53862335>this is who I try to debate with on this general
>>53862350i'll go back to sleep once you got back to r/unite, scrub
>>53862335I find that Rescue Hood just isn't worth it over boosting overall stats to get an all-around boost to damage and healing, which lets me be more flexible in which moves I pick to best fit the situation. Wouldn't want to be stuck with Rescue Hood if I was playing Tornado Guard for example. If I was playing in a stack then I'd consider it, but for SoloQ it's leaning too far into relying on teammates.Also I only really run Safeguard Blissey these days, cause if my team needs a healer I just prefer playing as one of the other ones.
>Lane Cinderace >Rips Ray while enemy is distracted>Doesn't secure it with Ult >It gets snipedNever trust these bunnies.
>>53862350And to keep kicking you while you're down focus band is a much better item for melee rather than improving your self heal by a measly 10%If that 10% keeps you alive then you should've been able to win the fight with any other item slotted there. Specifically Scizor already has enough healing and defense to drag a fight out for ages unless you get CC'd to death, you want items that help him kill things.
>>53862491AAUUURGGH I QUEUED UP AND GOT PAIRED WITH HIM AGAINI SHOULD'VE DODGED
shoutouts to the triple nigger Bulbasaur that stole my lane xp, causing me to lose my lane, and then lost his lane as well. This only happens on my team, never happens to the opponents
Ok, everyone,hear me outIf you are not in Masters 4000 and your ranked WR isn't above 90% you have no right to speak, simple asGet better at the game and then come back
>he isn't masters 9999 with a 100% winrateJust uninstall your life at this point.
im just gonna start robbing tauros and ludicolo from my talonflame teammates, i can put em to better use
>>53862549bro's living in the past
>>53862549For me it's the Bouffalant buff
He might just be playing on the objectively superior map. Zapdos is way better as a game mechanic than fug
>Our Umbreon matches a clutch play and gets the Rotom when all our goals are down 7 seconds before Fug>We WIPE THE ENTIRE ENEMY TEAM>Fug spawns as they wipe>My Goodra and Espeon go to push the Rotom in and cap rather than killing Ray>Team respawns>Gets Fug>We lose??????????????????????I've never seen bigger throw plays in my fucking life.
>>53862618Team games were a mistake.
>>53862618oh god this anon's playing on two maps at oncethe realities are falling apart
>>53862630I know it's Regi but my brain still internalizes it as Rotom/Drednaw and I was so tilted, I forgot to translate it from brain to words.
Energy amp decent on Garde at all or nah?
>>53862293>lolyes but that implies I would have stayed high if I had played consistently. I still have a job I just decided to nolife the new season and had a three day off stretch for the first week too. After that first week I slowed down. Don't know what you're "lol"ing at. If I had the time I would stream this game for a living
Anyone want to play some games right now? I'll quit the /Vp/ixelmon and join up!
>>53862350I'm pretty sure Rescue Hood specifically ONLY boosts "outward" heals. The only exception might be eldegoss's pollen puff, since you can target yourself with it, blissey using softboiled on itself, and maybe wish umbreon? Anybody have a definitive answer for that?
>>53862517this nigger just thanos snapped 99% of the game's population into dust
>>53862593incredibly based>>53862621this, this is my first moba and probably my last, i miss fps and fighting games where I can either single handedly stomp everyone or fight 1on1
>>53862703sure because you can immediately attack while the black hole forms
Who the fuck is still picking Garchomp with the way the ranged burst meta is now? Holy fuck, we're down a player right out the fucking gate with this thing on my team.
>>53862716It only heals more to allies. If you're in a pollen puff that is also healing an ally as goss, you don't get the boosted heal for yourselfThat + no special attack is why it's only good on comfey
>>53862792>That + no special attack is why it's only good on comfeywait it wouldnt also be good on blissey? I have it on egg blissey as well
>>53862828Oh, well I also double stack on blissey so I should be fine, maybe I'll switch back to buddy barrier then.
Would Glaceon with pumped up basic attacks be good at all? I'm thinking red emblems, rapid scarf, muscle band, x attack. Would it charge icicle spear very fast? I wanted to experiment with it, but I hate doing experimentation in ranked. Wish I could do it in standard but not vs. bots.
>>53862882You could get away with all of that by just using RFS, but you should run sp atk items for the rest, and probably a mobility item like x speed or eject
>>53862791The ranged attackers can't run away forever.
>>53862960Shit with all the umbreons around I might play some garchomp tonight to see if it helps
UMBREON FIGHT!>slap>slap>slap>slap>both at 20% and it isn't changing>slap>slap>slap
>>53862960Everyone was using Mean Look, and then Spragels made a video about how goated Foul Play + Wish is and now I'm not getting many Umbreon Mean Look teammates. Which sucks.
>>53863465they're both really good and funcant wait for the immediate nerfing theyll get when shitters complain
>>53863474I do think Mean Look lasts way too long. I would increase the circle by 10% and decrease the time by-- I wanna say 1.5 seconds.
>>53863499Nah, I'm gonna say 1 second instead if the circle is gonna be slightly bigger. 3 second stun is a LOT of time for this bursty MOBA.
>>53863506>>53863499how long does it last as it is now?
>>538635263 seconds. With added Snarl, you could potentially be stunned for 4 seconds by one mon. For reference for other stuns:Pikachu Volt Tackle: 1.5sMr Mime Confusion (Hit by wall): 1.5sEspeon Psyshock: 1.25sGengar Dream Eater: 1s Duraludon Stealth Rock (All four hits): 1sSlowbro Telekinesis: 2.3s Ninetales (Fully Frozen): 1sZacian Sacred Sword: 0.6s
>>53863537Still dont know why youre loling>>53863560mean look isnt a stun its a lock in place. it only lasting for one second would be kind of silly. its got to give you enough time to target whatever is trapped
>>53863560It's 3.5 seconds at level 10, and snarl is 1.5 seconds at level 12. Also, snarl procs a slow at the start which triggers any CC break passives like Glaceon's and Umbreon's, which means the stun is almost guaranteed.
>>53863575It's not a stun, but during a team fight and since it's a sure-hit, it functions the same way. In a 1v1, Umbreon's Mean Look is just a nuisance. In a 2v1, you could STILL potentially win depending on what mon you're playing. But during teamfights, holding you in a tiny box for 3 seconds while you have things like Zacian Sacred Swording or Glaceon Icicle Spearing is just a death sentence. I think lasting 2 seconds with a slightly larger circle would be better. If they don't want to change the duration or circle size, at the very least make it so the damage you take is decreased by maybe 20%. As of right now, it's absolutely bonkers during Regi/Rayquaza fights.
>>53863575>>53863578Not that anon, what's the range of mean look?
>>53863592>It's not a stun, but during a team fight and since it's a sure-hit, it functions the same wayAh ah ah ah, stop right there. False equivalency.
>>53862742go to the new thread you tards
>>53863669>IT'S NOT TECHNICALLY STUNNED, IT'S JUST LOCKED IN A 1X1 BOX AND CAN'T MOVE, RUN AWAY, EJECT, OR DASH OUT OF IT WHILE IT'S A FREE TARGET FOR ANYONE ON THE ENEMY TO POUND IT
>>53863669>>53863592>>53863575>>53863560It's worse than a stun because you can't Full Heal out of it, only at the start of it.