>This kills the Cynthia fagPress S to spit
>>52328718>battle fanatic calls her region's champion #1No bias there I'm sure
>>52328718>throws her hazardmon lastWhat a champ
>>52328718Do you think the reason why people like Cynthia is because she has the heck in strongest pokepeople? Are you 12? Do you think a spaceship looks cooler the more weapons you slap on it?
Why did Nemona gas her up so hard when its explicitly stated Nemona beat her without even going 100%? That means Nemona is actually SSS tier.
>>52328718Take your ritalin, stop making these shit threads, and go back to being furniture.
>>52328718>higher than regular champions>Pageeta literally says she's no match for a "regular champion" later onSomething tells me Nemona just has brain damage. Though i suppose Geeta also has to considering she chose the title of "Top Champion" to say that she's literally gotten railed by every other champion.
>>52328748She's just being humble
>>52328718in her regionher region also has 2 other canonical champions and she doesn't actually have enough talented staff to run the league properly>gym leader doubles as an elite 4 member>neopotism hire, a literal child, is an elite 4 member>can't staff enough gym trainers at each gym so she adds "gym tests" which is just manual labor for each of the small towns across paldea, like herding sunflora or delivering olives>one of the gyms doesn't even have a town nearby, it's a single building on a mountain
She is more just the 5th elite in the elite 4. which is now the elite 5 but we call the last one the top champion because reasons.
>>52328745>Do you think a spaceship looks cooler the more weapons you slap on it?[fuck! if I admit this, he'll think I'm a joke!]
>>52328718>Region with multiple champions>All the champions have to kick his ass>Even the retard that tells you this did it>Her team is shit tier and barely functional, failing in something as basic as order of pokemon. As always, Cynthia haters are illiterate retards.
>>52328745>the champion doesn't need to have a good team
>>52328779don't worry anon, I already think you're a joke
>>52328718Its time to stop posting
>>52328766>>neopotism hire, a literal child, is an elite 4 memberAge has zero bearing on ability to use Pokemon as shown by Iris, Acerola and literally every MC.And gym tests are just fun activities for the students, do you actually think you're doing labor when playing hide and seek with Sunflora?
>>52328784Are you suggesting Geeta’s team is GOOD?
>>52328784Have you fought Geeta yet?
>>52328822>>52328805the conversation is about why Cynthia is liked
>>52328718Not a Cynthia fan at all, she’s far from the best champ.Pajeeta however isn’t even top 5 trainers in her own region. That’s embarrassing.
>>52328801>do you actually think you're doing labor when playing hide and seek with Sunflora?yes, labor that goes unpaid
I got the OST bug when I played against the E4 and geeta today.It made everything insanely underwhelming.
>>52328745>Do you think the reason why people like Cynthia is because she has the heck in strongest pokepeopleWhere have you been? People love to power wank Cynthia as the strongest trainer of all time, the board was nigh unusable during Gen 8 because Cynthiafags could not handle the implication that Cynthia was anything but the strongest trainer because they lost to her when they were 10. It's either that or coomer reasons, as Cynthia herself has very very VERY little actual personality to back her up, which is fine, as this is fucking Pokemon, but don't act like her popularity is rooted in her deep character writing or some shit.
>>52328830The discussion is about Geeta being better than Cynthia so bringing up teams is like saying a colander is better than a bucket for water storage.
>>52328718Game hypes her up and the only thing I felt from that battle was disappointment. Nemona practically kisses the ground that Geeta walks on but Geeta herself admits that Nemona is a better champion. She should just pass on the title, but for some reason she keeps being the Top Champion. She's shady as fuck too with how the Gym Leaders talk smack about her and the sad state of the E4. Honestly didn't expect her to survey us on how was the Gym Challenge, but I doubt that will have any significance later on. She was overall pretty boring, both as a champion and as a character.
>>52328718In Japanese, Nemona seemed to keep calling her トップ (top) instead of "Ace", so every time she used that title she just addressed her as "Top".
>>52328851Cynthia is the strongest NPC trainer in the series as of gen 9Pageeta sucking only made her even more impressive
>>52328861So it's a sex thing?
>>52328851Only Cynthiafags criticize Leon?
>>52328870Player character is too young for the real champion battle, where Geeta’s fingers are second only to the weird shit she can do with her feet.
>>52328868lol, lmao even
>>52328875No, nobody liked Leon, but Cynthiafags were at the front of the pack talking about who would win between them.
>>52328855wtf is a colander anon
>>52328921>who would win between them.I mean, is there any reason to discuss something so obvious?
>>52328942Unless ILCA makes another remake and goes ham again - Cynthia might remain the strongest forever
>>52328718I didn't have high expectations going into battling her, especially with how much the game was hyping her. Similarly to Leon in Sword/Shield, but at least Leon while not challenging made up for it to me with the spectacle of it all. Geeta? I expected nothing and got less than nothing. Cynthia still remains the top for actual challenge. Cynthia > Leon (in the game) > Geeta.
>>52328718Boring as fuck fight for a boring as fuck character. What a waste of a design. I thought she'd at least be interesting to interact with, but she's as flat as a board in both the literal and metaphorical sense. All she's good for is to be mocked like the unfunny clown she is.Cynthia remains supreme. Anti-Cynthiafags stay seething.
>>52328954because bdsp filtered kids, BW remake N's battle will now raise your respective legendaries stats with the friendship bonuses. No ev's or iv's, hold items, randomized abilities and natures, N will not use full restores or switch and no changes to the original moveset.
>>52329194How the fuck did bdsp filter kids when fairy's in it?
>>52329396with a much stronger E4/Champion
DiaPer babies will try and sell you shit while saying it’s fine cuisine. Fuck gen 4. Worst gen.
>>52329429Are npcs using mostly good items that much of an obstacle? How odd
>>52328837If anything the MC is probably paying for it via tuition.
>>52329535Compare her team in the remakes vs the original.
>>52329487the most sane SVfag
>>52328718The prestige of being called "Champion" has been lessened as of late.
>>52328766>delivering oliveskicking a giant inflatable olive into a goal is delivering olives?
>>52328930if you ask 4chan a question before you google the answer then your mind is a colander for knowledge
>>52329487Scarletchads stay winning
>>52328718She's actually the most pathetic champion>supposedly can't hold back when it comes to Pokemon battles>outright says Nemora held back against her when they fought for the champion test>to reiterate for brainlets: HOLDING-BACK-FULL-POWER Nemora crushed NOT-HOLDING-BACK GeetaEven Nemora's in-game levels are higher than Geeta. She is stronger, plain and simple.
>>52328748I think the implication is that Nemona isn't fully aware of how good she is.
>>52331601Everyone with minimal reading comprehension skills got that anon. Geeta outright says so.
As much as I hate Cynthia because of how much of a flaming mary sue she is + the constant jerking off for several generations after her introduction, she was definitely the strongest champion.Granted, I don't think any of the champions was good.Blue was literally your rival. Not bad but not good either.Lance had the style and theme, but got cucked by Johto level curve.Steven just didn't pack enough punch.Wallace was even worse and looked actually ridiculous.Alder got cucked, don't even remember his team in the rematch.Iris is cute but not champion material I can take seriously.Diantha was pathetic.Leon put up a great show but his team was underwhelming.Geeta gave Diantha a run for her money on how pathetic she was.A perfect champion would be the energy of Lance, the show of spectacle of Leon and the team of Cynthia.
>>52328718you dont like her because shes a top?pretty homophobic imo
>>52328718I hope in the anime they just say she didn't qualify for the master 8, kek.
>>52328718>literally hated by EVERYONE, both IN and OUT of the game>her existence only makes Cynthia Diantha and Iris look that much better
>>52328718how do people even argue over champions? design wise they're pretty much all lame. most of the gym leaders have way more going on. pretty much all of them are boring as characters too except maybe red or lance
Leon is the only one who's actually dick sucked as the greatest champion evar being compared to other region champions and havingnhsi rival described as easily being able to become champion if he ever went to any other region
>>52333679Only in the anime.In the games he's only dick sucked as the best of Galar and even those also have Mustard.
>>52333730>having his rival described as easily being able to become champion if he ever went to any other regionThis is stated in the game
>>52333679Leons "rival" Raihan canonically cannot beat Melony (a gym leader)Leon might be one of the weaker champions in the game loreanime Leon is stronger, but he is still weaker than Ash and Cynthia there>statedWrong.
>>52333843>statedYeah it is you fucking retard
>>52328745GF seems to do so which is why they keep trying to catch a lightning in the bottle and continuously failing to do so.>>52328851See, the difference is that people started to think Cynthia was the strongest out of their own will. Cynthia became liked and after time passed people organically started to think she was the strongest. People didn't start to think she was the strongest because GF told people she was the strongest just because they said so.This is what you, and GF, are unable to realize. Cynthia built her reputation organically.
>>52333843Nah there are npcs in SWSH that talk about raihan sticking to galar for leon but can becime a champion in other regions
>>52333843>still weaker than Ash and Cynthia thereHe gave Ash more trouble than Cynthia could, he is better than her
>>52333938>Ash to this day still cannot believe he beat Cynthia>Yay we beat Leon let's go take a nap buddy pi-pikachuOkay Leon.Go lose twice in the same episode again.
>>52333906>>52333879>rumorthe only confirmed fact is Raihan taking it up the ass from Melony
>>52333959>The face the storyboarder drew was different so that means Cynthia is stronger!!!!lel
>>52333843>still weaker than cynthia thereThis is based on what exactly? Ash had to use every power up gimmick available against leon
>>52328718If she's the best in Paldea, then Paldea must have some pretty weak trainers.
>>52333938Ash never even fought the real Cynthia, only Cynthia-liteevidenced by the fact that MegaChomp remains undefeatedFP Ash > FP Cynthia > FP Leon
>>52333981Based on the voices in his head. The fact that he is so mad Cynthia went down easy is why he is seething about the subject on an unrelated thread anyway
>>52334000>Ash never even fought the real Cynthia, only-Stopped reading, you're clearly trying to pull off some coping measure. Cynthia lost easier than Leon, thats about the size of it.
>>52328860Jacq also surveyed the player on his Pokedex app. Lol, is GF logging the results of the answers to these questions? These felt very much like market research questions.
>>52333981>Ash had to use every power up gimmick>everywrong
Cynthia = 1 loss in the anime (only Ash)Leon = 3 losses in the anime (Sonia, Eternatus and Ash), two of them in the same episodeCynthia = has 2 gimmicksLeon = has 1 gimmickFull Power (both gimmicks + Kommo-o) Cynthia = undefeatedFull Power Leon = beatenMega Garchomp = undefeatedGmax Charizard = beaten, 0 KOs in the finalAuraBoost magic power-up = used by Ash on Lucario vs CynthiaAuraBoost magic power-up = not used on Lucario vs LeonPikachu = beaten by Cynthia in the first 20 minutesPikachu = beats Leon, including his 2 strongest with 2 Gmaxes4 gimmicks > 2 gimmicks > 1 gimmickAsh > Cynthia > Leon
>>52334026you are very dumbCynthia has 2 power-ups, Ash only defeated one (and not even her ace)
>>52334160Cynthia > JobeonEZ win
>>52334175its likely leonfags havent watched anything, they are just parroting wank
>>52328718Nemona means across Paldean champions, not worldwide champions dipshit
>>52333900>See, the difference is that people started to think Cynthia was the strongest out of their own will.Which is funny because Gen V already dispensed with that.>Equal of retired Alder in BW>Weaker than BW2 Iris
Geeta is like the worst champion ever. Her ace pokemon is just a random rock/poison.
>>52333843>Anime LeonRequired 4 gimmicks to bring down>Anime CynthiaLost to a single gimmick, had to use a gimmick to make it past gimmickless Iris
>>52334418Her ace feels dictated by game lore. It's the one whose material you need to craft the Tera Blast TM. Odds are it has some connection to the regional gimmick like Eternatus did in SwSh.
>>52334317Of course they are and ashfag are magically forgetting what a jobber he still is. Just like a Lancefags
People like Cynthia because she's hot and has a cool team, is not that hard to understand.
>>52328718Are SVfags really this delusional?
I remember when we didn't have to fuss over a Champion's power level. Thanks Galar for ruining it forever.
>>52336501Don't forget ashimefags
>>52328718NOT SO FAST
>>52328837>labor that goes unpaidPeople don't have to pay me to be with sunflora, it's cute
>>52329985in the pokemon world?
>>52328870It's always been a sex thing, anon.
>>52334443>had to use a gimmick to make it past gimmickless IrisMega Garchomp is canonically slightly stronger than base Haxorus.
>>52335679Plus her theme(s)
I'm convinced Geeta is gonna be the final villain for the DLC. There's no way she's just a throwaway trainer and the whole eye glove thing seems really off. She has a connection with Area Zero and probably had something to do with the deaths of the professors>>52336981God he's so fucking UGLY
>>52337733Haxorus canonically cannot damage Garchompunfortunately Iris was a fodderAsh > Cynthia > leon >>> iris
>>52337369>pretending leons charizard was anything but trash
>>52337733>Lance lost to DianthaFantastic
>>52337798Was this pikaGOD's greatest feat?
>>52334175Ash has 4 power-ups and Cynthia defeated 0, Leon defeated 3
>>52337855they didnt even let Ash fight Full Power Cynthiacompared to Leon who got a freebie second dynamax and still lost to an NFE
>>52337903>compared to Leon who got a freebie second dynamax and still lost to an NFECinder-ACK
>>52337903>b-b-but muh full power!ash wasnt fighting cynthia at full power either, he was hurt by the restrictions way more than she was
>>52337934So what you're saying is even with her handicaps, he barely won. I see
What's wrong with media literacy on /vp/?
>>52337964pajeets finally got the game like, 9 hours ago
>>52337964Ashime fans want to ignore the past
>>52337924>>52337798cinderace and charizard were leons 2 worst pokemon
>>52337958>the guy with more handicaps beat the person with less handicapsyou know this doesnt help your argument right
Ash (Full Power, all 4 gimmicks including boosting Lucario) > Cynthia (Full Power, 2 gimmicks) > Leon ("Full Power")
>>52328745Sinnohfetuses got their shit pushed in by her Garchomp and try to overcompensate by saying she’s not only the hardest but the strongest champion. She’s probably the hardest champion to beat but nothing in the game lore suggest she’s the strongest champion.
>>52338044Doesn't help yours since they're actually crutches
You will all apologize when DLC drops and she is revealed to be the villain
>>52337765The golden glove just means she is the top championI also think there will be more of her in the DLC, but I doubt the glove means anything else at this point
>this new champion is the ALL TIME STRONGEST EVER! >uh no actually, THIS new champion is the strongest ever!!!Apologize to Sun and Moon for not pulling this shit and kukui for not using shillmons like Charizard
>>52338220yes, you admitting that the guy with his true powerlevel nerfed more than his opponent beating said opponent actually does in fact help my argument
>>52338337I wish Hau was the last boss in SM instead of USUM
>>52338385The only good thing about Hau being champion on USUM is that he is easier than Kukui.
>>52338259>You will all apologize when DLC drops and she is revealed to be the villainwill her DLC team have a lvl 80 Gogoat?
>>52338259Can you find Glimmora outside of Area 0?When nemona pointed that out, it raised a red flag in my head.
>>52338622Not Glimmora specifically but you can find the pre-evo, Glimmet, in cave areas.
>>52338622You can. But the dex entry implies their power is similar to the crystals found in area zero. So yeah, she has many red flags
>>52338466??? His team is similar to Kukui. The only shitmon is the eeveevolution, but so what, Kukui has braviary
>>52337733>Irisniggers are STILL lying How embarrassing.
>>52341538irisfags are even worse than leonfagsboth mindbroken by Stacythia
>>52329535Honestly yes. Focus Sash Lucario can take a hit then knock out whatever you had out. Leftovers Gastrodon is a nightmare unless you have grass coverage that isn't Grass Knot and Garchomp's berry invalidates trying to cheese a quad effective OHKO.
>>52341651>Going against Gastrodon>with just grass knotW-who would do that? Bertha's there anyway so you'd want some kind of better grass move to begin with.
No amount of canon will change the fact that Cynthia proverbially raped us all when we first played DPPt
>>52328718Based. Fuck shitthiafags
>>52341819She changed me forever
>>52328745>Do you think a spaceship looks cooler the more weapons you slap on it?Yes.
>>52328718Doesn't this mean just in paldea? Since champion is a rank in this region and not a title held by a single person for some reason.Also her team is intentionally gimped right? I don't see how else she could be "top champion" despite the fact that every other champion had to beat her to earn the rank.
>>52328745> Do you think a spaceship looks cooler the more weapons you slap on it?unironically, yes. look at the star destroyer vs the uss enterprise, they are both beautiful but the star destroyer just has that edge of badassery about it i agree with you tho, cynthia is fake and gay, lance will ALWAYS be the best end game boss except maybe red in gold/silver
>>52328718Because of synergy with the anime they needed to dilute the "champion" title, so that now a region can have any number of champions.
>>52343293The gayest faggot alive, posting in the same thread as me? I can't wait to tell my grandkids about this forty years from now.
>>52341819It was the Spiritomb bro. I wasnt prepared for it and only had Torterra left.
>>52341538>Cynthiafag pretending to know japanese to claim the translations are wronggive it up, its just sad at this point.
>>52343724>Irisnigger is a EOPwwwwwww
>>52341538lmao irispedos EXPOSEDnot that it wasnt already clear from how Haxorus couldnt do anything at all to Garchomp despite landing hits.
>>52328718I like Cynthia because she's hot and I want to fuck her.This line really kills the Leonfag, because Leon's literal only appeal is being super duper strong.
>>52337769>>52341538>>52345172Hmmm interesting. Still couldn't easily take it down despite mega evolving and plot on her side.
>>52346801>AAAAAAAAAAIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE NOT LE HECKING DRAGON PULSERINO PLEASE RECALL ME SHIRONA-SAMA WHY DIDN'T YOU SEND OUT DYNAMAX TOGEKISS INSTEADStop, Irispedo. This is embarrassing.You already got caught lying once, and now twice. Don't make it happen a third time.
>>52329396BDSP unironically has somewhat well-built NPC teams in the postgame.Nothing as good as an actual human would use, but a step above anything else in a Pokemon game.Items on every mon, and it seems like ILCA even tried to work around the pants-shittingly retarded AI. See Typhlosion with only one move so the AI can't accidentally select anything else.
>>52346978Meanwhile despite all the plot in the world, using a second Pokémon + her ace + mega evolving her ace it still took her to the last few minutes to take down Haxorus. Sad. Holding onto her last win and it was pathetic. Writers had to write in mega evolution to make it seem sensical
Cynthia didn't need characters to gas her up in-game. She just has good Pokemon. The fight speaks for itself.