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>Kanto (RB):
Bulbasaur/Charmander/Squirtle
Pidgey
Rattata
Spearow
Nidoran
Caterpie
Weedle
Pikachu
>Total: 8
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>Johto (C):
Chikorita/Cyndaquil/Totodile
Pidgey
Rattata
Sentret
Hoothoot
Hoppip
Spearow
Geodude
Phanpy
Caterpie
Weedle
Zubat
Poliwag
Ledyba
Spinarak
Onix
Bellsprout
Gastly
Dunsparce
Teddiursa
Growlithe
>Total: 21
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>Hoenn (E):
Treecko/Torchic/Mudkip
Poochyena
Zigzagoon
Wurmple
Wingull
Lotad
Seedot
Ralts
Marill
Taillow
Shroomish
Slakoth
Abra
Nincada
Whismur
Skitty
>Total: 16
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>Sinnoh (Pt):
Turtwig/Chimchar/Piplup
Starly
Bidoof
Kricketot
Shinx
Magikarp
Zubat
Wurmple
Budew
Psyduck
Geodude
Abra
Machop
Ponyta
Onix
>Total: 15
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>Unova (BW):
Snivy/Tepig/Oshawott
Patrat
Lillipup
Purrloin
Pansage/Pansear/Panpour
>Total: 5
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>Unova (B2W2):
Snivy/Tepig/Oshawott
Patrat
Purrloin
Sunkern
Pidove
Sewaddle
Psyduck
Mareep
Azurill
Riolu
>Total: 10
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>Kalos (XY):
Chespin/Fennekin/Froakie
Pidgey
Caterpie
Weedle
Zigzagoon
Fletchling
Bunnelby
Scatterbug
Pikachu
Pansage
Pansear
Panpour
Dunsparce
Azurill
Bidoof
Burmy
Psyduck
Farfetch'd
Riolu
Litleo
>Total: 20
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>Alola (SM):
Rowlet/Litten/Popplio
Caterpie
Rattata
Ledyba
Spinarak
Pikipek
Yungoos
Pichu
Grubbin
Slowpoke
Wingull
Meowth
Magnemite
Grimer
Abra
Drowzee
Smeargle
Spearow
Growlithe
Cutiefly
Makuhita
Crabrawler
Machop
Zubat
Gastly
Misdreavus
Drifloon
>Total: 27
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>Alola (USUM):
Rowlet/Litten/Popplio
Caterpie
Rattata
Ledyba
Spinarak
Pichu
Buneary
Pikipek
Yungoos
Grubbin
Slowpoke
Wingull
Inkay
Meowth
Magnemite
Grimer
Zorua
Abra
Mime. Jr
Furfrou
Ekans
Drowzee
Smeargle
Makuhita
Spearow
Growlithe
Cutiefly
Dunsparce
Crabrawler
Zubat
Gastly
Misdreavus
Drifloon
>Total: 33
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>Ranking
SwSh
USUM
SM
C
XY
E
Pt
B2W2
RB
BW
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Unovaros...
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Did you count the first “gym” in the Alola games as Totem Gumshoos/Alola Raticate or Hala
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>>49258749
damn i like sinnoh but i would have thought it would have the worst pokemon for first gym
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>>49258762
>>49258764
I enjoy how restricted it is, let's you focus on your choices a lot more.
>inb4 coping
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>>49258779

You didn’t post swsh
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>>49258752
how do you get Growlithe pre-Falkner?
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>the absolute state of unovafags
lmao
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>>49258808
I think there's at least 40 different Pokemon before the first Galar gym. Could very well be more.
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ALOLACHADS WE WIN AGAIN
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>>49258819
Crystal added some grass on Route 36
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>>49258808

SwSh has the opposite problem. You can catch too many powerful wild area Pokémon before gym 1 and bust the difficulty curve. On my second play through, I skipped the wild area completely for this reason. That said, I will use the wild area if I’ve added a major restriction like a single type run.
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>>49258779
You could at least bother to use yellow if you go with crystal for GSC.
It's not mjch, but it does add a mankey and a wild pidgeotto.
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>>49258749
Crystal is peak distribution in my opinion, nu gens feel kind of soulless to me in the amount of pokemon crammed into each route
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Very cool info put together Op, thanks! The art was a nice touch.
I miss hoenn and hate woman so much its unreal.
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>>49258855
Apologies, I assumed RB was the better version of the two.
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honestly surprised that johto has more than hoenn, maybe i was just thinking in terms of mons that i'd use.
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>>49258752
Crystal actually has one more, though it barely counts. You can catch Unown in the Ruins of Alph before Falkner.
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>>49258885
You were just thinking in term of new pokemon
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>>49258755
Hoennchads we won again
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Good choice of pics, OP. Very comfy.
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>>49258885
Hoenn has better representation of its own Region. Only one Pokémon before the first Gym is not from Gen 3.
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Sinnoh is such a joke, 15 "choices" but only 5 actual new Pokemon.
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And now counting Pokemon new to the region
>Gen 1: 8
>Gen 2: 9
>Gen 3: 14
>Gen 4: 6
>Gen 5: 5/5
>Gen 6: 5
>Gen 7: 6 (+Alolan Meowth)/6
>Gen 8: who cares
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>>49259575
AIEEEEEEE UNOVABROS WHY DO WE KEEP LOSING?
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>>49259575
Gen 8 is 12. Much more if you include Raid Dens but I’m not going through all of that
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>>49258749
Since you've used the third version each time, shouldn't you use Yellow for the start?
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>>49258773
>Drowzee
For real?
Maybe I should give SM a second go.
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>>49258779
I would not have guessed that johto would come second after the gen 7 games, thank you for this informative comparison.
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>>49259806
SwSh are gen 8 so Crystal came third.
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>>49259757
Yellow is a fifth version. RB are already the third (and fourth) versions to RG.
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>>49260064
This is some prime dumb shit.
By the same logic, game breaking Lumiose glitch X and Y are the original gen 6 games and the patched versions are the third and fourth.
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>>49258773
Couldn’t you get bagon and salamence on route 1 in alola?
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>>49258804
Literally fucking coping.
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>>49260513
Route 3.
I dont remember if thats before the first gym. i guess it is
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>>49258762
You can get a Munna before the gym.
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>>49260957
No you can’t
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>>49260663
It isn't. The gate at the end of route 2 blocks route 3 until after the trial.
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>>49258804
You're literally coping.
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>More filler shitmons = better game
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>>49261394
Love how quickly you switched up your narrative now that the facts show your anti-Johto agenda full of misinfo was false.
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>>49258752
Based Johto offering tons of bros at the very start of the game
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>>49259486
Abra and Marill so 2, but still its impressive how many new pokemon they slapped into the first few routes.
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>>49259806
Johto has unironically good distribution.
Also the one game you can pretend ghastly is your starter.
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>>49261686
>Johto has unironically good distribution.
You haven't played the game.
>b-but muh shitmons before the first gym
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>>49260957
Dreamyard's grass is Cut-blocked, you can't cat hanything there until you get the badge
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>>49258847
HGSSbros... we can't recover from this...
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>>49260523
>>49261355
Later than usual
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>>49258804
It's definitely for the Gym Leader type theme, kinda early game tutorial in a sense. Apart of me wishes they took it further and just made it a triple/rotation battle with your rivals involved.
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>>49258764
>Excluding Staryu, Porygon, Igglybuff, Togepi, Shuckle, Smoochum, Ralts, Swablu, Drifloon, Bronzor, Spiritomb, Riolu, Munna, Sigilyph, Beldum, Slowpoke, Hoothoot, Rotom, Tornadus, Thundurus, Landorus
(You)
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>>49261818
>excluding [things that cannot be caught before the first gym]
yes that is the point of the thread
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>>49261829
>hasn't actually played the game
(You)
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>>49258749
Pretty sure you can catch mankey in yellow, also why did you count both nidoran genders as 1
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>>49261818
>>Tornadus, Thundurus, Landorus
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>>49261842
If you're going to use dream radar you might as well just list every Pokemon since they can be traded in from another game too.
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>>49261859
>t. hasn't actually played the games so he think level 5 legendary = broken
(You)
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>>49261747
>WAAAH WHY DO I HAVE TO WORK FOR THINGS EVERYTHING SHOULD BE HANDED TO ME FOR FREE LIKE LE DRAYANO HAX
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>>49261868
Concession accepted turd brain.
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>>49261777
i got you senpai
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>>49258855
Yellow is worse than R/B in terms of early game distribution. Mankey replaces Weedle, and instead of choosing a starter (Charmander/Squirtle/Bulbasaur) you are forced to have Pikachu, whom you could find in the wild in R/B + your starter of choice.
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>>49261407
which part of the "misinfo" does this disprove exactly? The game starts you off with a few weak Johto mons next to a ton of Kanto mons, theb has very few useful Johto pojemon in everything after the furst gym, just as people have said many times.
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>>49261882
>EVERYTHING SHOULD BE HANDED TO ME FOR FREE
Like Sudowoodo and Shuckle?
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>>49258749
Doesn't Kanto have Mankey too?

>>49258752
>Teddiursa
What?
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>>49262028
>theb has very few useful Johto pojemon in everything after the furst gym
Your autistic, arbitrary, and most likely inconsistent standards for what passes as "useful" do not matter here.
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Post: 49262109 (Newfag)
Play the games.
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>>49262109
only on yellow, and then >>49261927 happens
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>>49262114
While usefulness IS subjective, it is also very important to many people, especially given how Johto punishes a pokemon being an exp sponge early on. It doesn't matter how many pokemon you can catch if they're not going to make it onto your team.
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Unovachads are laughing at us again... >>49262113
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>>49262198
I don't know what you're talking about. I have never had any issues with EXP in any Johto game, or any Pokémon game at all for that matter.

Pokémon fans are just autistic about levels for some reason, and like to pretend that you must be on par or higher than the next Gym/Champ in order to beat the game as if you aren't already at a massive advantage for playing on Switch mode, having infinite items, and having a functioning brain capable of making predictions as opposed to a shitty GameBoy AI.
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>>49258885
that's because 80% of what johto offers are Kantomons
which is why every single johto team looks copypasted, almost as bad as sinnoh
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>>49262335
So use your kantomons, nothing wrong with them.
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>>49263382
>new and shiny generation
>just use old mons lol
fuck that shit
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>>49260957
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>>49263413
The concept of generations didn't even exist then, retard. They were a sequel and most mons were Kanto or related.
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>>49261644
Meanwhile, gen 2 shitter will tell you how bad these games are because bad distribution of mons and shit like that. As if every other generation was perfectly balanced. This blind hate need to stop, just enjoy the games you like and don't play the others.
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>>49261747
Ok, let's say you are right, and then what? What does it change? What is your goal here? Just here to say what others like is bad because you don't? That's called an opinion, anon.
Also, have you compared it to the Gen 1 Pokémon availability in Gen 2? Have you done the entire research and not just use the data you liked? And, did you compare it to Gen 1 too? Since it's a sequel, if it does it better then it shouldn't be shun for it, of course the next generations after Gen 2 would do better, at least it supposed to.
At the end, judging a 20+ years old game with a modern eyes is so easy. It's the same as judging how people were living in 1900, it's easy to just act all mighty and think you are so right because they can't even defend the choices they had to make. The same goes for these games, they are not perfect but we can find many issues in any other Generation of Pokémon games, even your favorite. It doesn't make them bad or your love for them less valuable. So stop trying to stir shit ffs.
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>>49264831
>the concept of generations did not exist back then
lol, I guess those 100 extra mons were just for flavour then
we're done here, keep coping
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>>49265143
>that's because 80% of what johto offers are Kantomons
>100 extra mons
funny how you stated both



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