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"Pokemon cards are fun" Edition

New/Returning Player?
>https://pastebin.com/ZsYKRnPK
>https://imgur.com/a/W4NkOu6 (deckbuilding guide)

>Public trade is like the GTS, if you want proper results, put up your own offers.
>Don't open tradable packs unless it's from giveaways (and POST PULLS)

What theme deck should I buy? (current because theme decks are cancelled)
>Relentless Flame (most luck)
>Dragonite (most consistent, most commonly played)
>Charizard VIV (has SSH trainers)

Resources
>https://www.trainerhill.com/analysis/meta (meta analysis of online tournaments)
>https://play.limitlesstcg.com/tournaments (online tournaments and decklists)
>https://www.justinbasil.com/guide/teu-on/budget (reddit's budget decks)
>https://pastebin.com/svqYihpM (4chan budget deck pastebin)
>https://pastebin.com/kM7ucNV8 (trading tips pastebin)
>https://ptcgoprices.com (automated prices for online trading)


Some basics to know in preparation for TCG Live
>Get 125 untradable/tradable packs so you get the max numbers of crystals upon transfer (enough for 1 year of battle pass plus)
>Only 4 copies (a playset) of everything you have in collection will transfer. Any remaining copies will give you jackshit.
>SR energy seems to be safe, you can transfer up to 59 copies of basic energy
>cosmetics (coins, sleeves, deckboxes) will only transfer 1 of each and only cosmetics associated with an irl product
>tokens, tickets and HGSS cards won't transfer
>no expanded at launch but there may be a LOT-on format in the meantime
>ptcgo goes offline forever before the official launch, remains online during the beta
>release date unknown, beta for canadian smartphones first. ptcgl icons have been spotted on fusion strike blister images (november 12)
>if you sign into ptcgl during the beta, the transfer occurs and you will lose access to ptcgo

Support Articles for ptcgl
>https://support.pokemon.com/hc/en-us/sections/360011828611-FAQs

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>>48420134
Seek help.
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I don't care if they're shit, I like using V Union in standard.
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>Try logging on to Online
>Keep getting denied
>Change password two times
>Still not letting me log in
>Finally figured out I accidentally pushed the space bar in username
I will never be free from being a retard
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>>48420152
>no ninjadick as MVP
why live
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Is celebrations the first time base Venusaur and Blastoise have been printed in many years? I think its kinda nice you can get the 3 base set starters for a reasonable price now. In this modern era of preserving card condition as well, its going to probably be a good investment come years from now.
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>>48421163
wrong thread my bad bros
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Drizzile ban when?
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>>48422108
That would be great. So it will never happen.
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>>48422334
The most degenerate game altering turns I've ever seen are because of a single Drizzile. It enables entire decks to function, which I guess is kind of a good thing. But it's straight broken.
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>>48422385
I think it was mostly fine before sharp shooting but that really pushed it over the edge. It being on such a consistent evo line and as a one prizer is pretty insane. Back then people would use Decidueye gx pretty much just for the ability.
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>>48422487
People would use thick Crobat lines and its ability only activated once.
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>>48422821
Those were also formats with 90/110hp two-prizers sitting on the bench, balanced by being able to be reset with AZ.
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>>48422108
Just wait for the next rotation
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>>48422108
she isn't broken, what's broken is fucking single strike as a mechanic
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Shut up, scalefag
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>>48422966
how would you like to suck my balls?
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Fuck off, scalefag
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Imagine being mad Umbreon gets a good card again finally.
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>>48423112
noone does this
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>>48423112
I'm not mad about umbreon being good, I'm mad that she makes the bear BDIF and that the breloom is grass type so I can't just run that instead of the bear
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I only bought the umbreon meme so I can get ready for the gengar meme and finish in last place at my lcs grand finals...
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why couldn't she have been fucking fighting type, how the fuck am I supposed to fit grass energy into an umbreon deck?
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>She
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>She
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I am thinking of dipping my feet in Expanded.
Would a pre-rotation ADP be competitive or will I get my butthole expanded if I try using it?
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>>48424686
play adp dragonite
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i cant possibly be the only one with absolutely zero interest in this celebrations garbage. why would i want cards that i cant even play?
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>>48426106
You're not alone. It doesn't help its an absolutely tiny set. Personally I would rather have an Expanded reprint set full of Expanded staples. At least we get something that's usable with it.
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>>48426106
we competitive/for fun players are the minority now. This is a game meant for collectors and investors looking to make it big thanks to those faggot youtube personalities.
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That's one way to complete the "1000 fighting damage" challenge in two turns. Jumping balloon for weakness.
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>lose against trashy gimmick deck because of coin flips
WOW!
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my first ranked match
I think I did pretty well. Though I ended up losing to Blaziken V
Why the fuck is it such a grind to build up an actual deck? Do I actually have to pay for packs? I have a bunch of codes I've yet to use but still
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>>48427780
You can get packs from events and daily challenges. The easiest way to get started is to use coins to get a theme deck. 2 of the Leonzard deck is enough to have a full line for a competent attacker. Otherwise you can just get one of the recommended theme decks to do theme events with and earn packs. From there you can look around for budget decks and see which you like the most/seems the most affordable. You don't have to buy codes but it's recommended to have 125 to carry over into Live. You can just buy a bunch of cheap old packs for that.
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>>48427780
Please read the OP
This is a tcg not a f2p game, yes you have to spend money, yes there are smart ways of doing it and yes you should scan your codes now before live deletes trading
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>>48427780
>>48427895
it depends on the codes. If they are anything post-Lost Thunder you can save them and still get shit on Live. But if they are anything before then you should be scanning them and saving your 125 unopened packs
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>>48427919
Nah you should scan them all now and trade them for standard staples, just about every trade is going through right now because people can't hoard anything
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>>48427890
>>48427895
thanks. i want to get nessa (and also melony) so i guess ill get the drednaw deck
>>48427919
>>48427939
i just opened a bunch of steam seige and fates collide i had
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>>48427919
Cards are all that matters in the transfer. the 6200 dust will be worth fuck all (2 trainers toolkit)
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>tfw you ran out of good cards and your just hoping you can get a sucker to take your bad cards anyway
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>>48426929
>we competitive/for fun players are the minority now.
>now
Pokemon TCG has never, not for a single moment in the past 20 years been more about the players than the collectors. The cards have always been a collectible product that also happened to be a game that a couple people played.
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>>48422821
can someone please explain the backround of these types of cards. I had a swirlix card with the back round and I belive there are more like them.
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>>48428268
It's just a theme of the set, like Plasma Freeze and having ice in the backgrounds. See: https://pkmncards.com/?s=set%3Aphf
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>>48428274
I never noticed all the jelly beans in dimension valley before you mentioned that.
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>>48428313
Sets usually have a theme to them, but sometimes they go really hard with it like Plasma Freeze.
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WHERE ARE THE LIVE NEWS
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>>48429158
Where's the VSTAR news, where's the next block news
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>>48429868
Japan probably
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>>48429868
VSTAR will be a powerful new mechanic where a Pokemon VSTAR will have a powerful new ability, but tied to maintaining a condition. For example, Arceus VSTAR will let you search your deck every turn for 1 basic energy for each Pokemon on your bench and attach it as long as none of your benched Pokemon share a type. Arceus VSTAR cannot be played unless your benched Pokemon don't share a type and if your benched Pokemon share a type after it has been played, Arceus VSTAR is KOd.
Source: I just wanted to post/bump

My actual expectation is Arceus VSTAR being SUPER KECLEON and getting to change type from special energy, too, or getting to just be all types at once, but also it may be more based on whatever role Arceus takes in LoA
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Is mahone going to save the format by re-introducing a stall that loses to high switch counts?
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>>48430812
good chicken
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>>48430816
You're not milling and just healing, how do you insure you don't deck out before them?
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>>48430874
Dialga pal pad prevents deckout. Metagross can attack if the opponent plays too slow.
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>>48430881
Watching him right now, it seems pretty promising so far. and SIX STADIUMS
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>>48430816
>>48430881
>>48430874
I've been doing something similar with Croviknight VMAX. Shits slow and boring but makes opponents seethe.
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9TR-Z7LZ-QVD-CWC
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>>48431030
thanks anon, too bad it was shit
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WHY IS IT SO HARD TO FIND A FUCKING DARKRAI-EX AT A NORMAL PRICE EVERY FUCKING TARD IS TRYING TO SCAM ME
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>>48431077
What is a normal price for a darkbox staple? I can sell you one of my spares for 3 EVS.
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>>48427954
Don't waste gems on packs/boxes, always use them for the battle pass. You get some gems back, packs and cards.
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>No card images on Limitless
Wonder what happened.
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TPD-N7N9-XD2-HHN

4HR-PD7Z-4MM-GNB

4TG-DMBY-HWP-PDQ
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>>48428340
All of the early BW sets had a cool gimmick where each set would take place in 2-3 towns from Unova and slowly progress through the region.
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>>48430816
Corvi Altaria is better because they can never manually retreat
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>>48433516
thank you! Will post Celebration pulls in a minute
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>dump 15 SR cards i hate to exchange for card i am horny for
>near instant accepts
I can’t tell if I overpaid or if people are desperate to get rid of their older cards lol
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>>48433516
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>>48433605
Cowabunga
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>>48433605
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>>48433516
>>48433629
>>48433605
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>>48430816
I'm working on a stall Single Strike deck. Umbreon with lots of Cheryls and lots of gusting garbage into the active with Mine up and mean looking through memory capsule.
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>>48433823
That's unfortunately a little flawed, opposing tool jammer stops your attack, galar mine does nothing in combination with mean look.
Try galarian weezing with tool jammer and mine with umbreon to pick targets to lock in the active and poison down. Again loses to 4 switch (zacian)
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TAKE MY FUCKING TRADES YOU FUCKING CUNTS!
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>>48434066
Mean Look stops your opponent from replacing your mine and then retreating. And Mine synergizes so well with hiding energy for bouncing around Umbreon Vmaxes til you can heal multiples with Cheryl.
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>>48434453
I think you missed the point. If your plan is to use Mean Look continuously galar mine is irrelevant so why waste slots on it especially when 4x Switch renders both plays useless
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>>48433823
Isn't that just Umbreon stall and not Single Strike stall. I don't think Single Strike as a whole really has any tools for stall. You're better off using Umbreon VMAX with a different Pokemon like Durant.
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>>48435171
Because Mean Look kills things eventually. Mine let's you just sit with huge health Umbreons and switch between them once the fear of opposing stadiums is gone without worrying about killing your opponents bench sitter.

>>48435260
I have a 2-1 line of Abomasnow and a single TTar V for the end game to discard faster. I don't use TTar that often though will be the first cut.
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Why is the shuffler so shit?
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Why doesn’t her $20 box have an evo skies pack?

>>48435614
The shuffler isn’t shit, you are
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>>48435352
This idea doesn't sound that great I'm gonna be honest. If your stall relies on doing damage to get things done, it's not good stall and just mediocre control.
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>scalefag's opinion
Irrelevant
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>>48420134
in the budget deck lists, is it possible to tag decks as expended/standard?
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>>48435701
>expanded
>budget
Pick one
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>>48435701
the expanded tab is down down down. It's the last 6 decks.
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>>48435748
The pastebin ones don't seem too bad. If you take the higher end of prices, mad party ends up around 20 packs with no ace spec.
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>>48435352
>fear of opposing stadiums
The fuck are you fearing in this deck idea when all you wanna do is mean look. Path only turns off free gust, training court doesn't help them retreat, Old cemetery only gains 20 dmg.
Add some actual control elements to the deck other than aha you can't manual retreat and took 20 whole damage
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>>48435968
also Ultra Ball, Vs Seeker, Battle Compressor and Trainer's Mail are staples in a ton of decks. The only real cost in an expanded deck comes from the attackers and consistency engine, which in this case are just the Mad Party shitters, Marshadow-GX and Mew. Once you get a Computer Search and Dowsing Machine in expanded you're set for the most part.
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>>48436061
Battle Compressor is getting the hammer
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>>48436091
yeah but it's cheap enough that it doesn't matter if you get them before transitioning to Live. It's not like Shaymin that became retardedly expensive once Scoop Up Net released
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>>48436091
I think the first bans should be DDE and dedenne-gx to slow down the format a bit. Even cards like max elixir would probably get banned before compressor.
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>>48436154
The only stuff that is going away together is both DDE and Battle Compressor. I feel like the only reason they haven't banned both yet is because reintroducing Dragon-types only to ban their flagship special energy immediately would be bad publicity and Dragonfags are fixed onto the interpretation that DDE is not broken (despite the fact that Dragonite is a tier 1 deck in expanded atm). Something similar is going on with Battle Compressor, which makes stuff like V-UNION barely viable in expanded, yet we all know that it helps Volcarona a lot more instead. Events are coming back in a few places, so I feel everything hinges onto the next expanded tournament. If Volcarona and Dragonite end up doing well, they will place a death mark on DDE and Battle Compressor.
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Pikachu needs a diet.
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>>48436230
Pikachu can suck a fart out of my ass
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Does anyone follow her on this account? I need her pics I am so horny for her
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>coomer
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>>48436385
Yes.
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I didn't say you could reply to me, faggot
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>>48436415
I dont need your permission, bitch
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I wasn't talking to you
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>>48436408
God, imagine if she sat on your face
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>T-the shuffler is not rigged
That's three matches in a row where I get fucked against decks that I should easily rip apart thanks to prizes, not drawing anything on my starting hand or somehow all my Houndour, Capture Energies and Quick Balls are at the bottom of my deck
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>>48436630
shit
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>>48436630
>>48436634
You fucking deserve every single garbage hand you get
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I can't wait until people complain about the shuffling in live
You shouldn't expect perfect hands everytime. If it doesn't happen in irl, you shouldn't expect it online, live, or whatever program you use.
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>>48436676
there's a noticeable difference between the hand quality in matches against decks you should be countering just fine and against any other decks. It's not even anecdotical, people all over social media post about the shit tier hands and the coin flips all the time.
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>>48436651
Seethe more scalefag
Rayquaza will never be good
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mfw digicucks will never know the quality of playing in paper
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>>48427895
>yes you have to spend money
Wrong. Winning tournaments in theme has allowed me to pull and trade into a fully playable standard collection without spending a penny. As long as newbies know to save 500 points to get a viable theme deck and are willing to grind some that's all that's needed (while the trade market exists, that is). Being a spendfag is one thing but telling new players to do it so as to normalize the idea that it was always required before Live is a bridge too far.
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Rayquaza is such a shit deck lmao. How the fuck did this happen.
>Gets shit on because of the current trend of "BIG DAMAGE GOOD FOR 2 ENERGY but also every deck has built in or supported energy acceleration"
>Gets shit on by random supporters like Avery that every shit deck is running in 4s.
>Bench sitters with no bench protection
LMAO
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>>48436833
>quality of playing in paper
such as?
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>>48436197
>Western expanded tournament results matter to TPC
If its not handlock dominating japan its not getting banned
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>>48436688
>it’s not anecdotal if everyone is whining
Record your match record and starting hand quality for a week or two and I may start to believe
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>>48437006
This meta hates the green tube
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>>48436462
It would be extremely painful
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>>48436833
is this the power of ESL? in my region we usually would say that we know that the digicucks will never know the "value" rather than the quality
ganbatte!
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>>48436630
>1 crobat in deck
>5 games in a row where it's either prized or the only basic in opening hand
Pretty sure this shit shuffles by alphabetical order.
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>>48437895
>>48436630
>have card in deck
>mad when it doesn't end up exactly where you want it
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>>48437895
Anon, your prizes and opening hand are more than a fifth of your deck. Out of curiosity, how many basics are you playing in your deck?
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>>48436462
>> she
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>>48437676
Shes too fat now its sad
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Coinflips are definitely rigged. They never go my way when I'm winning.
Does anyone have pointers for a jumpluff deck? Right now it's my primary with trevenant VMAX as a closer (after the person uses a few supporters) obv.
I'm running
4 jumpluff
2 trevenanant vmax
2-1 Celebi v and VMAX
I tried combining it with Durant to help trevenant but it's ass.
I like to make my own decks and try to be creative with it but I feel like I can use some more Pokemon but idk what else would work with it.
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>>48436630
The shuffler is rigged, AND coin flips are rigged. The designed their system like this o shitters won't be discouraged. I'm sure of it for two reasons. Firstly because I get literal million to one odds against me every time I'm on a 30 game winstreak, and never else. Secondly because when I was tracking every flip while playing a Ninja Boy/Ho-oh deck I ended up with a tally that was 400 something tails, 75 heads.
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>>48438848
What's the point of Celebi VMAX when your main attacker has 90 HP? The V is useless too when your main attacker only needs 1 energy. Fielding that many 3 prizers defeats the purpose of using Jumpluff in the first place. Why not just make it a grass box with Leafeon V at that point? I doubt you wouldn't be better off with more rescue carrier or something. No idea what to even recommend because I have no clue what you're actually running in the rest of the deck.
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What are some fun metal decks to play? Expanded is okay too, but no stall.
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>>48439154
Fabulous hair related.
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What are your hopes and dreams for the inevitable Brilliant Diamond and Shining Pearl, and Legends: Arceus sets?
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>>48439322
Arceus VSTAR being the return of ADP
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>Speed Attack
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CRE Gardevoir: Based or Cringe?
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I got a crimped full art lol
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>>48439813
Anon, you covered the last 3 characters of the Zacian code. No one's ever gonna reasonably guess that
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>>48439880
you aren't looking hard enough
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>>48439890
Oh right, the QR code, well never mind then.
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>>48439903
>QR code
fuck, can't believe I forgot that, in that case, read the filename
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>>48439880
I guessed it.

Thanks codeposter. Is this shit usable in any way?
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>>48439919
I have a modified zacian turbo that I use, don't bother with her in standard yet, I feel she's too hard to get out in standard as of now

****** Pokémon Trading Card Game Deck List ******

##Pokémon - 16

* 1 Crobat V DAA 182
* 1 Marshadow-GX BUS 80
* 1 Dedenne-GX UNB 195
* 2 Bronzor TEU 100
* 1 Dialga-GX FLI 82
* 3 Zacian V SSH 138
* 2 Bronzong BST 102
* 1 Mew FCO 29
* 1 Zacian V-UNION PR-SW 163
* 1 Zacian V-UNION PR-SW 164
* 1 Zacian V-UNION PR-SW 165
* 1 Zacian V-UNION PR-SW 166

##Trainer Cards - 33

* 1 Computer Search BCR 137
* 4 Metal Saucer SSH 170
* 2 Trainers' Mail ROS 92
* 4 Professor Juniper PLF 116
* 2 Chaotic Swell CEC 187
* 3 Guzma BUS 115
* 3 Ultra Ball SUM 135
* 4 Quick Ball SSH 179
* 2 Battle Compressor Team Flare Gear PHF 92
* 4 Max Elixir BKP 102
* 1 Field Blower GRI 125
* 2 Float Stone BKT 137
* 1 Switch CES 147

##Energy - 11

* 11 Metal Energy SMEnergy 17

Total Cards - 60

****** Deck List Generated by the Pokémon TCG Online www.pokemon.com/TCGO ******
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>>48439919
Metal is already an easy type to power up with bronzong and saucers. Between discarding with quick ball and aurora energy or what have you, it should be easy enough to get in play with familiar bell
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>>48439947

>her
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>>48440035
>This Pokémon has slumbered for many years. Some say it's Zamazenta's elder sister—others say the two Pokémon are rivals.
cope harder, fuck what the "others" like you say
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>>48439154
The Excadrill that can attack twice
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>>48439576
based, I will win a tournament with it soon
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>>48439198

Already have a deck like this.

>>48440157

Seems cool. Will give it a try.
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>>48438982
>ninjaboy
that reminds me of this one guy on the pokebeach forums that swore up and down his ninja boy toolbox deck was BDIF in expanded. then whenever anyone tried the deck, it ran like shit and he'd just say they didnt know how to play it right.
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>ohko'd by jolteon and urshifu
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Hm...
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>j beaner
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>>48441491
It's a not a tourney deck, it's a YOLO time save ladder deck. You get the combo to go off or you forfeit.
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>coomer
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>>48420318
How many times are you going to post this…..
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>ice rider is the best deck
>ice rider is the best deck
>ice rider is the best deck
>ice rider is the best deck
Why are poketubers shilling this deck so hard?
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>>48442741
>Katy Perry is the most viable spreader in format
This is fucking bizarre
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>>48442868
Because its the deck they invested the most for.
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>>48442755
>this pokemon
we did it bros, we finally became pokemon
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>>48442746
>>48442741
where did you get these from? They only revealed the J Balvin card
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>>48442858
?
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>>48442885
>flaaffy
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>>48442923
The source is this page on pokemon.com
>https://25.pokemon.com/en-us/
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>>48442957
it's [L][L][C], so you can actually power it up with two manual attachments and 1 Melony. No need for Flaffy here
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>>48442885
>>48442973
It's not a real/playable card since there's no regulation marker.
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>>48442981
that's pretty damn lame, I wanted to beat up people with my Katy Perry
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>coomer
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>>48442989
There's a chance that you might get an English Coco before he rotates.
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>>48442998
nothing "coomer" about that, admit it, it would be pretty fucking bizarre to engage others on Pokemon battles with a Katy Perry
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I wasn't replying to you
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>>48443005
>2nd attack is called Tarzan King

Funny.
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>Haven't played since XY sets
>Moved to Linux since then
>Finally download the game just now to see what's new
>It loads up to the sign in screen just fine using Wine
>But my username has an é
>Can't enter it in the game
>Can't copy paste it either
Kek can't even sign in to play
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What decks will get better when Fusion Strike is out?
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the virgin Blissey V versus the chad Post Mallone V
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I feel nothing. Why do zoomers cream themselves over this card?
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>>48442755
ironically, this will become the most expensive card among the three just because of that fucking Charizard.
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>>48443689
Butterfree helps Salazzle decks as long as Adaptive Evolution Caterpie and Metapod remain in format, now you don't need to waste space on Team Yell Horn. We still need TAE to come back to format tho - maybe it gets reprinted on VMAX Climax.

Dunsparce helps Snorlax VMAX in expanded, but there's no relevant colorless deck in standard at the moment. Heatmor helps Regidrago decks, though I feel it will become its own variant with Cherrim.

Basculin makes all Rapid-Strike decks better, since you can revenge kill pretty much anything softened beforehand by Urshifu or any spreader.

Ice Rider decks will probably switch entirely to Crabominable V as the attacker of choice alongside Zigzagoon and Scoop Up Net. Likewise, Single Strike Urshifu is switched to Single Strike Gengar with Hidden Darkness Energy to cuck Leafeon even more. Latias helps Shadow Rider decks

All Inteleon variants become stronger by the addition of Cross Switcher, but become more linear by virtue of having to devote 20 deckspaces to the entire engine.
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>>48444285
dunsparce doesn't help snorlax in expanded since it gets turned off by lab and muk, plus it already has delta altaria which can only be turned off by garbotoxin/neutralizing gas

have a celebration 3 pack for trying tho 7JLGLQDQ2M6WT
E1121KHWW4XLXPFY Zarude
E1119FXVTVQ0R7TV Celebi
94NTVY7PH9Q4C 3x EVS
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>>48444822
>>48444829
>>48444833
Congrats, cheers for posting pulls
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>>48444814
>dunsparce doesn't help snorlax in expanded since it gets turned off by lab and muk
Good thing those also shut off the main fighting attacker. Urshifu and coalossal aren't worth worrying about.
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That really spiked in value. It was around 15 packs before the live announcement.
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>>48445862
Volcarona V is the 2nd best deck in expanded
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>>48445869
plus it is from a holiday set that has been out of print for years, Dragon Majesty was the fucking shit
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>>48443055
that says kick
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>>48446437
>Dragon Majesty was fucking shit
ftfy, scalefag
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>>48446437
I already mentioned it, but I would refrain from investing into Volcarona and Dragonite staples. The next tourney may put them into TPCi shit list.
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>>48426106
I guarantee you the only reason stuff like Team Magma's Groudon, Rocket's Admin., and Claydol are there is because Gen III/IV was when the collecting aspect of the TCG was at its weakest so they went with meta cards because nobody was actually collecting at the time.
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Is the Celebrations reprint of Tapu Lele GX legal in Expanded? I figure it is but the Japanese version doesn't have a regulation mark.
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>>48448177
There's more gameplay important cards in celebrations than collecting important cards.
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>>48448224
Sure, but the ratio of gameplay to collecting heavily favors gameplay in Gen III/IV, contrary to Gen I being almost entirely collecting, and Gen II/V/VI/VII are basically 50/50. The only real "collector" card from all of Gen III/IV is Umbreon star, while for other Gens (like V's Reshiram/Zekrom) they compromised with collector cards (the full art versions of Reshiram/Zekrom) that were also meta relevant.
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The savior of standard.
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>>48448211
It is legal. Our guardians rising version of lele doesn't have the mark either and that's the one you'd use in expanded. The mark isn't at all the cards cause it wasn't a thing til more recently.
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>>48448303
>The mark isn't at all the cards cause it wasn't a thing til more recently.
He's commenting about it since the other ~8 prints of Lele all have the 'A' regulation mark in Japan.
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>>48448268
Japan picked the cards and I don't think there was much attention given to the division between what is playable and what is collectible. What really dictated the choices was the pool of cards each mechanic had to offer to choose from. They wanted to represent a bunch of mechanics like Baby, Shining, ex, delta, prime, Ex, Gx, Mega etc. They also wanted some popular Pokémon but not have any repeats of the same ones in the choices. After a bunch of juggling we got what we got. Cleffa was the Baby, Admin represents supporters and we have the awkward Xerneas inclusion who was worse than Yveltal playability wise but represents the addition of fairy.
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>>48448211
It is legal because it's considered another print of the card, so it's technically part of Guardians Rising for decklist purposes
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whens live
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>>48449666
You'll get Live when you fix THIS DAMN DOOR
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>>48449666
Take my shitty trades satan, and maybe I'll tell my dad to release Live faster
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>>48448388
why do all the reprints have the Radiant Collection foil effect?

>>48447762
adp drag is good shut up
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Jesus fucking christ I hate Weezing. Why do these niggers keep printing ability lock?
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>>48449739
if they are going to keep printing ability lock they might as well have the balls to reprint Garbotoxin but on shit like milotic
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>https://twitter.com/Tricroar/status/1449602454048358400
>>48449739
LMAO!
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>>48449833
I wasn't even playing a faggot ass V deck like nigger horse. Weezing also affects shit like Cherrim and Mew.
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>>48449833
woah, based
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>>48449711
ESL doesnt know what's a "shit list" lmao
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>>48449833
Nice confirmation bias
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For most V-Vmax's, you can get the V for 2-5 packs and the Vmax is more expensive at 10-25. Why are the prices for Jolteon reversed?
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>>48450516
You can only get Jolteon from a tin or as a FA from Evo Skies
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how many special energy can you use in a deck? 4 max?
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>>48451009
4 max of a any card of the same name besides basic energy. Technically you can have 59 special energy in your deck.
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>>48437785
>in my region
you couldnt have made that more rigid and unnatural. did you mean where you come from, you stupid ESL nigger?
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>>48449866
DDE and Battle Compressor aren’t getting banned if that’s what you were trying to imply
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What are you guys doing with your HGSS cards? Trade them for fuckall? Try to look around for dudes looking to use them for a few days to maybe get a better deal? Hold on to them in hopes of TPCi going back on their word?
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>>48451478
Legacy isn’t a real format, they aren’t going to change their mind
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>>48451502
Legacy is real as far as TCGO goes, but is a shit format and I also don't expect them to change their mind. But the question is what to do with the cards before they are gone.
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>>48451520
With everyone playing the Sobble line, standard is a shit format. They should get rid of that too.
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New card for Tyrantrum? No.
New card for Arcanine? No.
New card for Kadabra? No.
Yet another card for Charizard and Pikachu? Yes.
Cards for celebrities that the average Pokémon player won't give a shit about? Yes.
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>>48451687
>Arcanine
We had one in Rebel Clash. Wait for the legends arceus cards and you will get one
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>>48451687
Kadabra is only just recently allowed to get new cards.
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>>48451443
cope
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>bought 2 Zacian V-Union boxes 10/06 on Pokemon center
>still hasn't shipped
Why do they sell us shit they haven't even printed?
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>>48452066
Why are you such an impatient cunt? The fuck you in a rush for? You're going to open the packs, get fuck all and put them away never to see them again less than hour after you get them.
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>>48451687
>pots melon
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>>48451687
So do these cards come with the album? Is it random which card you will get?
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whaddya guys think of celebrations palkia being used with path to the peak?
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>>48452440
The peak is the tip of my shiny palkia lol
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4NG-KBWJ-2GD-CQ4

49M-RBVW-DM6-DNG

4GX-7Z6P-DLD-YVL
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post pulls you faggot
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So what’s the fastest way to ladder in expanded? I know all about the turbo decks and 400 damage on turn one but I mean something that doesn’t require 10 minutes a turn, something very fast to play even if it’s not that good.
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>>48452907
DRACOZOLT VMAX
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>>48452907
Volcarona is pretty fast. I finished last ladder pretty fast with it
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>>48451478
I'm keeping them because my enjoyment of the game doesn't involve throwing away a decade's worth of nostalgia just because the pokemon company wants to slightly adjust its business model. Yeah they'll just delete them anyway, but at least I won't have to suffer the indignity of trading away what I like for a pittance so I can get a tiny amount of their faggy gacha dust.
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Why is RayRay so cute?
Not fair!
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Fuck off, faggot
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>>48445774
I think that proves my point even more
Dunsparce does nothing for snorlax
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>>48452907
Donk is a bad deck that only takes a single 5 minute turn.
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>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xtF893dIBCc
get fucked spic, lmao
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>>48420134
What are the best looking Pokemon cards?
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ded as fuck
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>>48452066
My preorder for 1 of each from my lgs still haven't arrived either anon
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why is this game so DEAD

FUCK
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>ded game
>Pokemon live about revive the scene with a proper phone app and actual ranked mode

Should I trade for a deck now or roll the dice on waiting til after live? Already have 125 cheap packs, I'm wanting Calyrex or Sylveon
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>>48455994
Yes.
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>>48455994
go adp, ignore the shitter that wants DDE banned
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>>48455994
Please ignore the scalefag. Nothing he has ever suggested has ever been good and he is a poorfag
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>>48456023
the words of a man that has bought into the Big Lie that is shadow rider
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>shadow rider
I don't play trash, nor stay rent free in expanded like you do, fag
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>>48456051
speaking of expanded, you should try GARBODRAG, not as crazy as adp dragonite
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>expanded
>rent free
I accept your concession
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Is there any confirmation that trade-locked packs count towards the 125 packs that'll be liquified?
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>>48456068
In theory, yes, but we are still not sure about packs and cards trade-locked.
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>>48455943
I think people are trying to figure out their lives.
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>>48452955
That really sounds like the worst plan of action possible.
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i won a lottery of Japan Post promo cards today.
feels good men
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>>48449689
Rent?
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>>48456841
congrats that cramorant is beautiful but wrong thread >>/tcc/
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>>48451278
thanks, i worked really hard!
region being SE US since idk what the hell yanks, midwesterners, bongs, etc. say
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>>48456750
My plan of action is to quit the game when they shut down ptcgo and move on with my life, which I think is a pretty good plan desu. Converting HGSS cards would just be wasted work.
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>>48457803
Trade me all of your cards before you quit, I'll take good care of them and most certainly won't flip them for packs.
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>>48457803
>Quitting within the next few weeks
Hey... Anon...
Wouldn't it be crazy if you, like idk haha, maybe traded me your whole collection?
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I've been offering 99+ cards for a pack for a long while, but I ran out of good cards, (rares and trainers), to trade and nobody has been wanting to trade :(
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please tell me Adventurer's Discovery is in the set
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>zoomer still doing top deck academy
cool, I can continue to not watch this baby shit
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>>48452955
this is what i tell myself, but the real reason is im too lazy to trade all my legacy shit for a handful of packs.
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imagine if dragon aight sat on post mallone
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>Play Ray shitter for shits and giggles
>Every shit deck is playing Avery
lmao. 1 card, 1 shit card will utterkek destroy the deck.
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>>48459439
>every deck runs bench shitters
>cards that exploit bench shitter decks become more relevant
Working as intended.
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>>48459439
Don't over bench, dum dum
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>>48459439
eh, it's ok. Avery is still situational, it only works the best on control decks. Dragapult and Zacian don't put vomit their entire hand onto the field, it's only the Urshi decks, Sylveon, Shadow Rider that do so
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>play Sky Field on a deck that wouldn't need it
>opponent puts down his basics
>wait a turn
>play N
>opponent puts and fills up bench
>Play Avery
>"whew that was close"
>opponent concedes
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If you are in here, good game! I was this close to milling you to your death but you somehow completed v union dog in this turn and metal transferred all you could. I don't know how but good game! I really wanted to win against Steel.
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>>48460094
This is such a gay post. its just a game its not like he was fucking you in the asshole and you're thanking him for a sexy night
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>>48460370
He's a newfag, anon. Take it easy on him.
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>>48460419
>>48460370
shut it
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>>48460370
I want zacian to fuck me in the ass
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I started playing recently and built my first deck. Is there any glaring issues with it?
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>>48461112
fucking cringe ass furfag garbage
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>>48461112
>stage 2
trash
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>>48460370
Are you okay dude? I reached out in case the player was here and I enjoyed our fight.

>he's forgotten how to feel good.
Hm yea would explain the bitter post.
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>>48461112
anon... did you bother reading the OP guide?
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>>48459874
Expanded players love being able to discard lele/dede/bat, which deck is hurt by Avery? A dark box that mismanages its energies? The lone pikachu V player? Zoroark and cincinno engines are also pretty rare at the moment.
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bro im mlike ripped off my ass lol
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>>48461523
Ttard is that you?
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>start to play Rowlet & Exeggutor control
>suddenly get matched up with single-prize evolution decks made by shitters that couldn't give less of a fuck about the item lock and the attack lock

Yep, there's nothing weird about the matchmaking. I'm sure that these decks would have gotten equally matched against me when I was playing Volcarona V or PikaZekrom
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>Im only doing 8 daily wins, because I dont want more tickets as rewards
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November 12th
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>>48461909
fusion strike
is fucking TRASH
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>>48461112
Well done anon, that's actually well built.
As others have said stage 2 is suffering but it falls into the frogs category of technically stage 1s so it's ok, have fun
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>>48461949
This poster is ready to be assblasted by genesect
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I didn't ask for your opinion, scalefaggot
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wow, you've got the worst thread on this board congrats
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I didn't ask
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>>48462114
>off model
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Your dad didn't ask for such a shitty bitch but here is your mom, existing. Stfu beta nu male.
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why are people playing the 70 HP sobble over the Keep Calling one? I keep running into decks that have the 70 HP one
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>>48462238
Afraid of drag dropping the zigger into 50 ko
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>>48462114
>
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>scalefag complaining on how bad the thread is when he's the one who made it bad
huh?
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>>48462269
all I did was ask about sobble, don't compare me to this off model shitter
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I wasn't replying to you
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>>48462238
Keep calling is a bandaid for a terrible start that doesn't help non rs decks, 70hp protects from drag and eternatus (triple goon power accel)
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>>48460094
>censored your own name but not the person you're trying to politely shout out
That's another misplay from you kek.
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>>48461112
>>48461123
Don't listen to this guy, gardevoir is about the only psychic deck that doesn't make me resent the type. I've played against it and it's a good 1-prizer deck if played well.
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>>48463027
>>48461112
I was going to save myself the comment, but the fact is that despite the deck being well built as far as ratios and staples go, the problem is that a "serviceable" stage 2 in the current metagame can't actually manage much. I know the idea is likely get off an attack with Kirlia and then evolve as many as possible Gardevoir/Gallade to start drawing cards and setup the board. Achieving that is easy... but at the end of the day, what's the actual result? I mean, wow, your Gardevoir is hitting for 150+ damage... which is barely enough to 2HKO the entire VMAX meta, and it took you four turns to achieve that result. Your damage cap won't increase that much unless you get crazy lucky with the attachments from Shining Arcana, the deck as a whole is a slower version of Shadow Rider in this sense. Charizard can actually stream the KOs because once you get the 4 Leon in discard, your opponent is basically fucked.

Tl:dr; Yes, it's an ok deck, but it doesn't actually do anything in the current enviroment. Probably only wins against weaker single-prize decks that take time to setup like Malamar and Charizard.
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>>48460094
>telling someone with a zacian deck "good game"
Please kill yourself for the sake of the rest of us
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>>48463091
yea I was playing on the ladder for the first time and it was tough against decks like Dragapult
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>>48461112

Where are the Vs
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>>48463263
I didnt have any when I posted but I just got the ZacianV from the celebration and its been real nice. This is what my deck looks like now
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>>48463386
Nice deck, would have fun playing against
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what deck can I trade for with 20 chilling reign packs?
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Is there a supporter that removes effects and abilities that makes the Pokemon immune? I know Pokemon Ranger only removes effects. I don't wanna end up having to use Hex Maniac and Pokemon Ranger
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>>48464118
Phoebe
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>>48464241
That's only for VMAXs though...



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