No wonder a lot of designs this gen look more like Kirby/Mario enemies than Pokémon.Just fire him already for fuck sake.
and yet they're still better than the average gen 4 design lol
>>47338877Why do Galarvae dislike Gen 4 so much? If anything, I’d say it’s the most kindred spirit to Gen 8. Especially since we’re remakefags now.
That Yoshi would be slow as fuck.
>>47338873snom is the baby yoda of pokemon
>>47338877this, gen 4 has the worst dex
>>47338873>T. assmad faggot that can't comprehend that pokemon designs are bound to change overtime.
>>47339083gen 2 is best design wise, pokemon, locations, and characters. The pokemon stats on the other hand blow
>>47339699>pokemon>gen I rejects>few at that and many of them evos and prevosThe starters themselves are the best example of this.
>>47339719>The starters themselves are the best examples of this>Not liking giant blue alligator I bet you think the mermaid seal and soccer rabbit are top designs
>>47339699Gen 2's Pokemon are the most Kirby-esque of them all.Half the dex is fucking circles with simple faces.
his biggest sininexcusable
>>47340048Obstagoon is based, you uncultured nigga
>>47338873You forgot to include Hattena. Most Kirby-esque Pokemon I’ve ever seen.
>>47338873He doesn't design them, he just overlooks the design process and OKs what's passable. The suits are still the ones who make the decisions of what vibes they want and what designs they like. Now stop being mad that he likes to draw that way for his cutesy twitter account.
>>47338873Chewtle doesn't look like Mario or Kirby.At the very best it looks like it belongs in an early Bugs Bunny cartoon with one of the McKimson brothers involved.
>>47339074I don't get Pokémon design prescriptivism since even Gen 1 opened the door for designs not following one singular rule on Pokémon eyes or rugged vs soft shapes.
>>47338891on her bank account
>>47338873I can get disliking Chewtle and Eiscue, but I feel the rest feel like actually nice designs...just get the enema out of your ass
Many gen 2 Pokemon tended to be Kirby-esque.
>>47338877I like those Kirby designs but I genuinely can’t get how can you hate on gen 4, unless you are false flagging which is more likely
>>47341313>I genuinely can’t get how can you hate on gen 4LMAO>1/3 of the dex is """""legendary""""" pokemon>1/3 of the dex is pig disgusting crossgen evolutions/babies>everything is blue and purple>Lumineon
>>47341313not them but it's an incredibly weak dex that lacks any identitywhen you look at them individually they're usually alright but as a group they fail to stand out and it does hold a lot of the series' worst designs
>>47340048Your shit taste is what's inexcusable
>>47338873How many horse dildos do you have stuck in your ass to think anything other than Eiscue, Stonjourner, and Chewtle are bad designs?
>>47341358People only remember torterra, infernape and empoleon. Just like how op chose not to show some if his more complex art
b-but muh golurk
>>47341476>turner is a evafagwell, that explain a lot.
How does gamefreak even allow an employee to publish their intellectual property in this sort of crossovers?
>>47341816I don't think he said he did alcremie
>>47341839>>47341870>>47341476god these look awful. and the fact that he has the gumption to sign these doodles...gross
>473388779/10 made me mad for a bit.Well done.
>>47340123>>47341279I understand why you hate it, but not appreciating the homage to the 70s heavy metal band Kiss makes you a bunch of zoomer faggots.
>>47338873Not at all. The Mario/Kirby enemy aesthetic is a saving grace. Stonjourner is ridiculous, but stuff like Falinks, Hatrem, Impydimp etc. are legit refreshing. Super tired of the animal+element thing.
>>47342051aside the design itself being horrendous, "le epic reference xD" is completely out of place. Kiss arent even british, pokemon has nothing to do with music bands, doesnt even have a sound/music based movepoolit boils down to "ahah a badger's fur patterns kinda sorta looks like glamrock face paint"
>>47342051you can make a homage without ruining a design for the sake of ity'know, like they did with Zigzagoon and Linoone
>>47341366>>47341358>>47341476What these anons said is true. And I actually think Gen 4 is one of the better generations all around. Looking at that compilation picture of the Dex though, alongside what that one anon said about the lack of group identity, it really comes off more like a loose expansion pack of Pokemon. Just an additional hundred and seven splashed in to the last dex to fill the world up some more and maybe round out some shitmons like Aipom with an evolution. Didn't work by the way.I feel like SwSh and other such games going forward should really begin with the initial 251/386/493 or something, along with a handful of newer designs for the current generation, to maximize model animation quality, then add the older mons in as free DLC, but they'll never do this. That's just an aside though, not sure why I put it in this post.
>>47338873i dont have a hateboner for james but I DO HAVE A HATEBONER FOR THIS STUPID BROKEN LINEART STYLE WHY JUSTCLOSETHELINESAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
>>47338873The thing is, a lot of them are still considerably less well designed than Kirby and Mario designs. I wouldn’t have as much of an issue if they were actually neat looking but out of that list the only one I like is Falinks.
>>47342157it's a western staplehe is just paying tribute to his cultural heritagerepresentation is important
>>473388916 million Jews died in the Holocaust. A high number doesn't automatically mean it's a good thing, as is with the case with the garbage that is SwSh.
>>47341313it's genuinely one of the worst dexes in the series, only gen 8 comes closethere's a couple of standouts but it's a small dex to begin with and the good to mediocre or bad ratio is pretty bad compared to the average new lineup
>>47342183god it's even worse in animation since the holes jump aroundlike it literally takes more effort to choose where to put the holes while still colouring within the intended boundarywho actually likes this
>Oh boy I've actually managed to get hired as a pokemon designer! It's such a huge honor and responsability to be the first and only gaijin that gets to do this>Will only get to work on 3 pokemon lines for my debut generation so I better ensure they showcase the best of my abilities>Oh I know, let's put a smilley face on an icecream cone! Brilliant!>A vulture wearing a diaper! Genius!>A jewish golem! That should do it!
>>47342299game end yourself
>>47342311oy vey! good goy
>>47342118>Kiss arent even british, pokemon has nothing to do with music bands, doesnt even have a sound/music based movepool England has a culture and love for rock music. To the point where British Rock is its own subgenre. Evidenced by several music themed monsters in this region. Even Piers entire get-up is based on punk rock and glam metal aesthetics.
cant we just nuke gamefreak?
>>47338877100% agree. I wish Chewtle wasn’t so ugly but I love the rest of them
I wish I was James Turner and so do you
>>47338873>Just fire him already for fuck sake.Wait he designed Snom? One of the most beloved designs for being a cute Pokemon this generation? Dont run a business nigga.
>>47338873>tfw the only passable design in this image is the one that literally looks like six kirbys
>>47338873Is that fucking cum?
>>47342299>hating based Golurk
>>47341358>Hating on SinnohHow low can /vp/ go?
>>47338873what wrong with kirby ya retard
>>47342371why do jew have cool mud mecha while christian only have gay shit like a hipster with nails in his hands?
>>47345677oh no did this lil fairy get ya mad?
>>47342145Hoennian Zignagoon and Linoone still exist. Just use them if you dislike Obstagoon and fuck off. No one likes a sourpuss.
>>47338873but he didn't design any of them
>>47345940But his name is english and that's easier for me to remember so I gotta blame SOMEONE for everything I hate
>>47338873>No wonder a lot of designs this gen look more like Kirby/Mario enemies than Pokémon.Based as fuck. The future of Pokémon looks bright.
Reminder that James Turner also drew this. He's perfectly fine breaking away from his usual artstyle when need be.
>>47346016He should've made the SwSh boxart better
>>47338873These are all great though?
>>47342390yes, and there's a myriad of English rock bands to pick from, so why pick an American one?
>>47338873Hey, don't touch mah appul! Ah'm really mad at ya, got it?
>>47342051Maybe I just don’t think fucking POKÉMON need to be designed around cringe bands FUCKING TARD.
>>47338877Obsessed, gen 4 will always be the best gen through all your cope and seethe
>>47346679Because KISS is the most popular foreign band in Japan. For whatever they really bought into their specific flavour of glam rock, to the point most Jap rock bands are directly or indirectly inspired by them. Just loop up any random J-metal band. The chance of them having facepaint and glittery costumes is over 50%. The Japs probably can’t differentiate between most subgenres of western rock, so they probably just associated the British punk scene with KISS because of the vaguely similar aesthetic (leather, spikes, wild hair, etc)
>>47342152I get the feeling Sinnoh’s pokedex wasn’t really meant to stand on its own, but instead be populated with plenty of crossgen pokemon. Looking at Gen 4 pokemon in isolation is like looking at Gen 2 pokemon in isolation.
>>47347180Yeah, but you can excuse gen 2 because it's right next to kanto, which you can actually visit in game, so it feels like a sequel, and delivers as a sequel in the end.
>>47347148Pretty sure Obstagoon is a POISON reference, not kiss.
>>47347203>star patterns over eyes>long tongue>black and white with silver accents>not a KISS reference
>>47347268>she knows nothing about Poison
>>47347637>sheI know Poison, and I know more about Japanese pop culture than you apparently. Obstagoon is obviously based on KISS. You’re being a contrarian for the sake of it.
>>47347648>I know poisonClearly you don’t, based on your comments. Pro-tip: arrogance mixed with ignorance is an embarrassing look on you.
>>47347203And Deino is RAMONES reference
>>47347653Confirmed, contrarian for the sake of it
>>47342152Would have been a good post without the nu gen 4 garbage image
>>47342299Golurk is based and a baby vulture wearing a skull like its breaking out of an eggshell (and evolving into a shaman-looking vulture that wears bones) a good concept
>>47342698>I love the rest of them
>fire himMore like kill him
>>47345396the only correct post itt