https://www.polygon.com/2020/11/25/21719638/pokemon-sword-shield-nintendo-switch-bring-back-timer-20-minute-limitation-competitiveFor those of you that play cart, what are your thoughts on the timer change?
>>46787204Don’t care because I don’t play the dogshit 6v6 format the game isn’t even balanced around.
>>46787204Killed my interest in battles. Now I just stick to Showdown
>>46787212Right. Instead you play the dogshit 4v4 format the game isn't even balanced around.
>>46787223>instantly assumes I’m playing doublesIt’s hilarious how predictable you autists who don’t even play the game act.
>>46787228Oh, okay. So you play the dogshit 3v3 format the game isn't even balanced around.
>>46787204The timer is perfect for official formats, no one actually cares about this change except for some Smogon youtubers who want to play 6v6 ingame for a video every now and then.>Smogon has prioritized simulators over the real game for 15 years>they suddenly expect the devs to care about themHilarious
>>46787797Shut the fuck up retard. If 6v6 i not An official format then why even put a timer on it?
>>46787204Can you turn off Dynashit?If not, I don't care
>>46787797That's a very narrow-minded way of thinking, especially if you take into account what was previously happening in the play, which is rather mysterious.
>>46787834>>46787877Oh cry about it
>>46787888nice way to say "I have no counter to your points".
>>46787204That's what you get for buying a lousy gameYou made your bed anons. Now lie in it
>>46787204I used to play cart.I don't anymore because of this shit.
>>46787970No, that's his actual counter point. Keep crying. It's your own damn fault for:1. Buying a shitty unfinished game with retarded game design decisions such as the one that you're crying about right now2. Paying for a fucking online service3. Doing both things when Showdown is a thingLiterally just keep crying about it you retard. You expect gamefreak to change a single string of code without forcing you to buy a new game?
>>46787204The timer issue frankly isn’t the only problem, in fact It just exposed how much dead space a turn can have where most of a turn isn’t even the player making a move or the move being executed but the time is eaten up by passive effects or Dynamax animations being too fucking long for no reason. Unfortunately their focus is on the timer which is a surface level problem rather than looking deep into the issue and expose the real problem.
>>46787204No one cares, smogoners dabbed on cart play for as long as they exist and VGCfags can play their game as usual. Its a fake drama spurr up by a few Youtubers who cant record their epic Magikarp sweeps on cart anymore
>>46788023Passive effects are mostly a problem in doubles, watching 4 different Pokemon getting hit by 2 seperate EOT effects is not fun. I dont understand why it cant work like it does in the raid battles where effects are applied to the entire team at the same time.
Stop using stall. Problem solved.
>>46787797>The state of bootlickersJust add the fucking 60 minutes timer. I'm sure the bazillion dollar indie company can do it.
>>46788230The issue isn't stall.I only had timer issues with people sitting on the select move screen when ahead by a little to purposely time out and get a bullshit win.
>>46787204Why are they complaining about it. Shouldnt they be glad and invent excuses to cope with the state of the game ? Nobody forces them to buy them. If they dont like the direction the series is going, they should just move on.
>>46787223>>46787228You two should have rough wild hate sex
>linking polygonNigger what are you doing
>>46788747No racism outside of /b/ please.
>>46787987post the poop one
>>46787204sucks for themget fucked
>>46788902racism is a spook
I haven't played 6v6 on cart since gen 5
>>46787797This way of thinking is what will eventually lead to Google officially taking over all Governments.
>>46787797>have a format that you play 90% of the story mode in>people question why the game mode literally every player has the most experience in is an absolute shitshow>(You): LOL DUDE IT DOESN't MATTER LMAO!!!!!Why are Pokemon fans like this?
>>46790116>>have a format that you play 90% of the story mode inThe format that uses bag items and lets you switch before the opponent sends out their next Pokemon? How does that have any bearing at all?
>>46790116Bootlicking.People today lack any drive to freely think. Instead that mental power is used to defend corporations they grew up with.
How am I supposed to funbro now?
It kind of puts pressure on vgc moves. I need a bit more time to think about my plays since there's 2 mons on the field and many possibillities.
>>46787212Retard>>46787228Double retard, cool.
>>46790116it really is only the pokemon community that does this and no one elseit's almost like /vp/ and other pokemon fans have a lower than average IQ compared to everyone else
>>46788271Nah, fuck of smoggie and keep crying. Maybe don't have 2hour+ switchfests? VGC is superior anyway.Know your place smoggie.
i'm still pretty sure I could whittle the timer down to 0 will 5 shuckles and a speedmon.
>>46787204I couldn’t give a single shit about 6v6 The thing I hate about the 20 minute timer is that it killed me and my friends interest in free for all multi battles, which we used to do almost every week. With the shit timer if you bring anything remotely fat then don’t expect the battle to finish at all, especially when each turn is 3 minutes of animation.
>>46787204Timer change sucks, I've had times where I lose battles I have the advantage in and win battles I don't deserve to win
>>46788230Stall only works with a timer.The timer makes wasting time an actual wincon.
>>46791610I can relate to this a lot as It’s one of the reasons why I’ve retired from the series for a while even when my friends want to do miltis, I just can’t be enthusiastic about it. The most aggravating thing is this could of easily been solved by having a fucking custom rules option which shouldn’t be difficult to implement. Frankly I shouldn’t be surprised that gamefreak is incompetent at common sense considering their justification for forced exp share, locking difficulty settings between versions and requiring the player to beat the game to even unlock the other options, their pathetic execution of battle royal in gen 7 (idk how the fuck they fucked that up as all they needed to do is have the mode be last mon standing) and the online interface after gen 6 being utter shit.
>>46787204Think fast and play fast, stall faggots.
>>46787797>smogon does a better job>bootlicker tranny start hating on themBWAHAHAHAHAHAH
Thank fuck it's like that. I've had countless salty japs try to keep the battle going until my patience run outs and if the timer were any longer it would be hell.
>>46793002>RUSHES THE FUCK UP TO /VP/ because a random twitter tranny pwned himholy jej
>>46792986Playing stall is actually really fast, in terms of actual gameplay.It's so mindless that it only takes about a second to know what your next move is.Watching the animations takes up more time than anything.
>>46792986>stall faggotsYou realize the timer benefits stallfags, right?
is there no option to turn off animations to speed the game up
>>46795242nobesides if you turn off animations you might as well be playing showdown instead
>>46790198>People today lack any drive to freely think.Have the masses ever?
>>46794976They just think stall is when battle is long. And the longer battle is, the more stall it is.The idea that a shorter timer can make stall more viable is lost on them.
>>467872123v3's are even worse
>>46787204They did support gf by buying the game.Actions have consequences, bootlickers.
>>46787797there are people outside of smogon youtubers that like to play ingame unrestricted multiplayer
>>46787204The funny thing is that it's perfectly manageable on Showdown.Even BSS and VGC on Showdown have the timer, but because the animations are shorter, the battle can be a reasonable length.What I'm saying is that the battle timer isn't a problem, but the fact that it ticks down during the animations is.
>people ITT recognizing Smogon as the main authority over anything related to 6v6 singles battles on cart>people thinking the lower timer is made so Stall isn't viable, despite the fact that Stall is even more valid as they just have to remain healthy until they inevitably win by having more healthy mons than the opponentholy fuck this fandom is cringe
>>46796552>What I'm saying is that the battle timer isn't a problem, but the fact that it ticks down during the animations is.They're fully aware of this. They watch the WCS every year. They just don't think it's a problem.
>>46796371>3v3s are even worse, that’s why dynamax is less broken it, switching is less broken in it, darmanitan is less broken in it, dracovish is less broken in it, stall is less broken in it, hazards are less broken in it, please play my fanfic format where we need to remove a huge chunk of the game simply to make it playable guys
>>46787204Don't most singles players play on Showdown?
>>46788085End of turn effects resolve in speed order. You're gaining information when you watch them resolve. Furthermore, the pause at the end of the turn is the time when you can/should be planning your next turn. Having an extra 20-30 seconds to think things through can help you make better plays.
>>46787888We literally are. It's a ridiculous change made for no reason other than to be anti-consumer. Let players play however they want.
Bootlickers so incapable of separating a majority of Pokemon players from their idealized "6v6 smoggie stall man" that they have a mental breakdown when presented an actual problem that hurts every Pokemon player. I can understand the people who shill Sword/Shield, or the people who stand by LGPE, but you losers are so undersocialized that you've internalized any criticism of your favourite game as a personal attack and resort to strawmanning.The 20 minute timer prevents any sort of game outside of VGC, and it's so blatantly anti-fun I wouldn't doubt it's to set up some sort of battling companion app, like a battle mode in Home or something. The 20 minute timer prevents multibattles, any sort of 6v6 singles match (stall or other), even 6v6 doubles too. My buddy and I like to play each other with our story teams and we still can't finish a match. Granted, we like using shitmons like Wish/Pass Vaporeon and SubSeed Flapple, but even then we simply can't finish a match without having to only click attacking moves. I don't understand why any company would want less ways for their player's to enjoy their game, especially when the opposite comes at literally no cost to them. Just make the rules adjustable, like they have been in every game prior.
Redhill me on comp, whats meta and why is this a big deal?
>>46793002>I'm a [slur]Why fags are like this?
>>46787987splatoon is also a lousy game
>>46797537The end of turn speed order property would be fine if it was exclusive to sandstorm and hail to prevent multiple of those effects being stacked on top of one another and the game executing EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THEM ONE BY ONE and remove the unnecessary text boxes reminding the player that x Pokémon took the end of turn “insert effect here”. But of course the mainline games doesn’t do that at all which leads to cases where time is being wasted executing all of the effects one by one and eating up a disgusting amount of time which at that point a guy can literally make their move, get a snack and a drink from their kitchen and get Netflix set up for a show before all of that shit finishes.
>>46797537How about instead of >Mon A damage animation>"Mon A was hurt by sandstorm">Mon B damage animation>"Mon B was hurt by sandstorm">Mon C damage animation>"Mon C was hurt by sandstorm">Mon D damage animation>"Mon D was hurt by sandstorm"Have it be>Mon A, Mon B, Mon C, and Mon D all do their damage animation in rapid succession>"Mon A, Mon B, Mon C, and Mon D were hurt by sandstorm"That way you can still see the speed order, without it taking fucking forever.
>>46787212>Don’t care because I don’t playCould've stopped there.
>>46800064Battles end automatically after 20 minutes, including time for animations. No way to turn it off. Almost impossible to play 6v6 singles, regardless of team comp.
>>46801544Or just introduce a battle log so you can check if youre not sure. I dont get why this isnt a thing yet. Even PMD had it since the first game.
>>46800097Retard tier opinion
>>46802858Gamefreak has always been behind the curve, even with their own franchise.
>>46797510>>>>>>Dynamax is not broken in 3v3Play the game
>>46787228>he picked one of the two remaining moded of the game>predictable
>>46797510Yeah, BSS is very balanced.
>>46787856no, you can't. i'm not sure why you can't, it should be optional regardless of whether or not it's actually broken>>46788020this, they're not gonna fix this, and if they do i will eat a bag of dicks. just play different videogames at this point, like literally any other game
>>46799099I doubt they were being malicious with it but yeah. It's intrusive.
>>46791610>>46792597This is kind of fucked. I didn't buy SWSH but I always acknowledged at least comp was better and easier than ever. I didn't know/must have forgotten they added a timer to full battles. Kind of shitty.
>>46799194>I don't understand why any company would want less ways for their player's to enjoy their game, especially when the opposite comes at literally no cost to them. Just make the rules adjustable, like they have been in every game prior.This.
>>46800090Because it was either never a slur to them or they don't care and want to reclaim it. There used to be a show called Queer Eye for the Straight Guy.