Improve a Pokémon with stat redistributionsExample:Typhlosion Original Stats:HP - 78Atk - 84Def - 78SpA - 109SpD - 85Spe - 100BST - 534Typhlosion New Stats:HP - 71Atk - 75Def - 73SpA - 116SpD - 70Spe - 120BST - 534
>>46782686You don't seem to understand why Typhlosion fucking sucks, anon. The reason it's shit isn't because it lacks speed and power, it's because it's a special attacker and it's special movepool is fucking pathetic. If you really wanted to fix it by only adjusting stats, you'd make it a physical attacker since his physical movepool is actually fairly solid.
>>46782686I don't think you actually care about a thread for redistributing Pokémon stats. I think you're the same obsessed Typhlosion stan with a victim complex who constantly posts buff ideas in every possible thread or cries about Charizard because the two have the same stats but Charizard is better in battle and more liked by fans. And I think you aren't going to read any other ideas that will be posted in this thread (if any.) I think it was just an excuse to post and talk about Typhlosion more.
>>46782686The best way to fix Typhlosion is by deleting Charizard and giving it Zard's movepool and Solar Power
>>46782701I know it really needs a movepool buff on the special side, but the thread is for atleast improving a mon with stat distributions. These stats along with a much better special movepool would probably help it a lot.(Improved) Typhlosion @ Charcoal / Life Orb / Choice SpecsAbility: Flash FireEVs: 252 SpA / 4 SpD / 252 SpeTimid Nature- Eruption- Schorching Sands / Earth Power- Thunderbolt (I know, cliché)- Flamethrower / Fire Blast / Energy Ball (A move widely distributed among pretty much everything, Typhlosion produces energy because living volcano, covers the water/ground types, ground types and rock types).
>>46782701This. Typhlosion doesn't need a stat change, Just give it a goddamn movepool. Even just Earth Power and Ancient Power would make it a respectable Pokémon. Even giving it Hone Claws could let it use Focus and a Physical move to surprise opponents instead of having to rely entirely on Basic Bitch KRAKATOA!!!!. It doesn't need even need to be minimaxed, it doesn't even need to be OU, it just needs to e an actual Pokemon instead of a punchline for Zardfags to dab on.
>>46782701But it does lack speed and power, though
>>46782761But this thread isn't about fixing movepools, it's about improving a Pokemon by stats alone. With your proposed change Typhlosion is still worthless. To fix it with stats you'd need to min/max for physical attack and speed, not special.
>>46782721Mate, I just used Typhlosion because it’s a popular mon for discussions about buffing things, and I also like the mon too. Nothing against the fire dragon at all. I don’t spam the board with the same “Haha charizarderino, fat fire dragon bad please laugh” threads or find them funny, either.
>>46782807Ok thanks bro
>>46782807>. Nothing against the fire dragon at all. Based, I too am a Typhlobro and I have no issue with Charizard as a Pokemon. It's justannoying that Game Freak goes out of its way to make Typhlosion have no idenety other than "worse Charizard". There is nothing wrong with Typhlosion's stats, the problem is its shit movepool. Flash Fire Eruption is amazing, but its the only thing this mon can fucking do, while Charizard gets everything just for existing.
>its a LETS MAKE TYPHLOSION A SPECIAL ATTACK AND GIVE IT EARTH POWER AND THUNDERBOLT AND DRACO METEOR AND LITERALLY EVERY SPECIAL MOVE threadno you fucking retards, all you need to do to make the yellow human usable is swap its attacking stats, seriously its simple as thattyphlosion's STELLAR special movepool includes greatest hits such as:>eruption, a move rendered useless by taking damage, if you want fire stab go for fire blast, and even it its 110 bp and 85 accuracy>diaper beam lol>focus MISS>solar beam, which either cucks your item slot with a power herb, or makes you rely heavily on sun>extrasensory, random psychic coverage>mud slap, i dont even have a witty comment for this movewherea's its physical movepool includes, ehem>flare blitz right from the get go, stronger than fire blast and doesnt miss>double-edge is a better hyper beam in case you are desperate for normal coverage somehow>low kick, trannytar, stakataka, aggron, snorlax? all btfo>fucking earthquake>iron tail, in case you want to hit fairies i guess>wild charge, gyarados btfo>throat chop, alakazamama btfo>brick break in case you are too much of a chicken to run low kick>fire punch/thunder punch, in case you dont want recoil from flare blitz/wild charge>rock slide, volcarona eternally btfo>stomping tantrum in case you have mental disabilities and dont want to run eq>shadow claw, random ghost coverage in case you dont want throat chop>aerial ace, random flying move>bulldoze/rock tomb for speed control>flame charge, does damage and boosts your speed>power-up punch, does damage and boosts your attack>quick attack, gotta go fast>fury cuter, for dank memes
>>46782989What the hell I'll bite. NOOOOOOOOO!Typhloson should absolutely not have its Atk and SpA swapped. Let's say we actually did that, now it has 84 SpA (meaning it loses Eruption the omly unique move it has), and has 109 Atk which is absolutely pathetic (remember Intimidate, Contact, Rocky Helmet, and all sorts of other shit Physical attackers have to deal with). The real solution is to just give it Earth Power, Ancient Power, (like every other special attaching volcano mon), Hyper Voice, and (here's the key) Set up and Utility moves. It's a volcano right, give it Stealth Rocks, now it's an offensive lead that can spam Eruption the set up rocks when its health is low. It's a badger, give it Hone Claws to boost its accuracy on switches then either use Focus Blast or even dip into that physical movepool. Hell, just give it Swords Dance like Charizard from KANTO to surprise people expecting another episode of the Typhlosion Eruption Show. Give it Snarl, now it can be either use Throat Spray and provide some support in Doubles. Give it Agility so it can fully invest in Special AttackGive it Morning Sun so it can recover and use Eruption more than once.It's not that hard. Typhlosion just needs some moves, (special coverage AND utility so it can adapt to the meta game). If Charizarderino can dominate VGC with its stats, so can Typhlosion; it just needs a fucking movepool.
>>46782686I'll start the stop the TyphlosionfaggingBeartic:New Stats: 95/130/80/50/80/80/BST:515
>>46783813bro look at this dude uhju uhju wait till you see the f- uhhujuJUJUJUUU NO NO NO NO ohhhHOHOo ohh uhhuhhuhh EATJAHWQUIEHQWIUOHHHHHHAHAHAHAHA AAA LOOK AT THE TOP OF HIS HEAD HEEEEEEEE HAHAHAHAAA LOOK AT THAT CROTCH HASJHJDHWRUI
>>46783813You added an extra 10 to it’s BST, remove 10 from SpA and that should be good.
>>46783819>LOOK AT THAT CROTCH HASJHJDHWRUIt. pic related
>>46782989You put so much effort into such a stupid idea.
>>46783794>Typhlosion just needs some moves>someYou literally asked for fucking SIX moves dude. They would be much better off just retooling its stats towards physical attacking instead of being a LITERAL carbon copy of Charizard's.
ITT: typhlosion lives in zard's shadow, so let's give it more moves zard already has so it can continue to be a worse zard
>>46782686Grimmsnarl original stats:HP: 95Atk: 120Def: 65SpA: 95SpD: 75Spe: 60New stats:HP: 95Atk: 120Def: 90SpA: 60SpD: 80Spe: 65There, I made it so Grimmsnarl can do more than just Prankster shenanigans but is also better at that role. This fucker has no business having as many points in SpA as it does, literally nobody runs special attacks on Grimmsnarl. For fucks sake it's dex entries even list it as the "Bulk Up" Pokemon and talk about it punching Machamp's lights out.
>>46783986it's meant to mirror hatterene, dummy.
>>46783986It’s most used signature move is also physical, too. I agree that the special attack is completely unnecessary, def needs more bulk to make it a better bulk-up user.
>>46783993Proof? Both of their dex entries don’t mention eachother at all and their stats don’t show that obvious of a connection at all.
>>46783993>it's meant to mirror hattereneHave you fucking looked at Hatterene's stats, anon? They aren't mirrored fucking at all. Also the fact that Hatterene's entire line isn't psychic/fairy says you're wrong.
>>46784031>next to eachother in the dex>both secondary fairy type>both have the same evolution levels>both have the same BST>both have obvious hair themes>both have a lot of points in the attacking stat they don't use>both locked to a single genderanon...
>>46784049>>both secondary fairy typeHatenna and Hattrem aren't fairy type and Impidimp/Morgrem are so you're wrong, sorry. Nice headcanon though.
>>46784071>hatterene and grimmsnarl being counterparts is now headcanonare there no depths /vp/ won't sink to in a desperate attempt to save face?
>>46784082It literally is headcanon. Their dex entries make zero reference to each other and neither one is version exclusive. Not to mention the fact that their typings aren't a consistent mirror. This is 100% headcanon.
>>46784049Mate this is just as retarded as the Electabuzz/Magmar/Jynx theory, calm down a little.
>>46783794you just went>LETS MAKE TYPHLOSION A SPECIAL ATTACKER AND GIVE IT EARTH POWER AND THUNDERBOLT AND DRACO METEOR AND LITERALLY EVERY SPECIAL MOVEand proved me right
>>46783889how is it stupid?
To everyone splurging out in giving it special coverage, all it needs in the special department is Earth Power, Scorching Sands, Energy Ball, Ancient Power and maybe Thunderbolt if you’re stretching along with Steam Eruption (which should be given to every Volcano mon). Also, Stealth Rock and Morning Sun would be a nice touch along with Belly Drum because pretty much every badger mon gets it, too.
>>46784214I don't remember giving it Draco Meteor or Thunderbolt
you retards need to give it something zard doesn't have, not more shit zard already haszard is fucking PU and you still want typhlosion to be a lesser version of itwhat the fuck
>>46784278>GUYS IT'S OKAY ALL IT NEEDS FIVE NEW AMAZING SPECIAL COVERAGE MOVES AND ALSO THESE OTHER FOUR MOVES JUST BECAUSE THEY MAKE SENSEQuit being fucking retarded. Typhlosion is never getting all this shit. The best you can hope for is Gamefreak giving it a mega that's able to be a physical attacker some day.
>>46784350Small IQ fanbase please understand
>>46784356We know Game Freak couldn’t care any less about this board’s wants, but it would be a nice touch for it’s volcano theming. If Heatran, Volcanion and Camerupt get moves related to their volcano theming, then the literal Volcano Pokemon getting them would make sense, too.
>>46784356>The best you can hope for is Gamefreak giving it a mega that's able to be a physical attacker some day
>>46784405>heatrangets eruption>cameruptgets eruption>volcanionnot a volcano
>>46784356>Physical-MegaSpecial-oriented fast Fire-Rock sweeper, take it or leave it.
>>46784430>fire/rockweedle used aqua jet
>>46784436Weedle can't learn Aqua Jet, you gigger nigga
>>46784450caterpie used accelerock
>>46784428I said volcano theming, anon. Volcanion has “volcan” in it’s name and has “Steam Eruption” as it’s signature move. My point still stands.
>>46784350Things that Zard does not have that were mentioned on this thread so far Earth PowerHyper Voice Snarl Stealth Rock Agility Morning SunHone ClawsEnergy Ball Thunderbolt Things that Zard already gets mentioned hereScorching SandsAncient Power Belly Drum Swords Dance
>>46784450>wurmple used mach punch
>>46784461it has STEAM eruption because it's NOT a volcano, it's a fucking GEYSER.
>>46784456>>46784468Fuck yourselves, and fuck your retarded moms
>>46784485>scatterbug used vacuum wave!
>>46784462>earth powersolar power scorching sands is stronger>hyper voicelol>snarlliterally 100% useless>rocksfair.>agilityzard has DD which is better>morning sunzard has roost>hone clawszard has this, retard>energy ballworse than solarbeam as you're not using either of these shitmons outside of sun anyway>thunderboltas if the retarded badger would ever get this, might as well say gamefreak should give it sketch
>>46784502>>snarl>literally 100% uselessPlay the game
>>46784541it's useless in singles and there is zero chance typhlosion will ever be doubles relevant when zard existseven if it was good, incineroar has the fire type with snarl niche filled and isn't going anywhere
>>46782686Pic related. Just swap Sp. Attack with Defense.
this is gonna be dumb, but >Spindaall his stats are 60, for the stupid reason that his base stats add up to 360, which makes a perfect circle. This could be made a bit more interesting by adding the golden ratio on top of thatsince the 360 already makes a circle, we can start higher than just 1, the most balanced choice being at 8, then 13, 21, and 34>68>72>72>80>80>93this adds 110 to spinda's stats making his new BST 470, on par with other single-evo mons. Still a frail mixed attacker, but 93 speed beats a considerable chunk of pokemon, and makes a contrary spinda a bit more viable, even if the attack and defense are still lacking. And the added buffs to SpA make it's special moves a bit more viable.Can't think of much moveswise, but i'd imagine something like Leaf Storm would be beneficial to aforementioned contrary build
>>46784662>>Redistribute stats>Buffs every stat
>>46784691ohdisregard me, then
>>46784554Typhlosion has Flash Fire, Eruption and Lava Plume, which are all actually decent in doubles. Typhlosion just needs more stuff to see actual use there.
>>46784662>Can't think of much moveswise,How about giving it Superpower back (Why Lame Freak took that away from it, i have no idea).
>>46784662>this is gonna be dumb, but>>SpindaYou're right it is dumb.
>>46784711>flash fire lava plumethe point of things like this (lightningrod discharge, storm drain surf, etc) is to have them on seperate mons, so that you can actually take advantage of the interaction. typhlosion cannot do this.>eruption*laughs in fake out*
>>46784724waitthey took it away?
>>46784741No, they didn't.>>46784724No, they didn't retard.
>>46784753>>46784741Superpower Spinda was ONLY in the Dream World for Gen V, Spinda has no other way of getting it and event moves from previous gens are banned.
Original stats:HP - 140Attack - 70Defense - 45Special Attack - 85Special Defense - 50Speed - 45New StatsHP - 130Attack - 20Defense - 90Special Attack - 90Special Defense - 80Speed - 25give her cosmic power you cowards
>>46784775This, this and >>46783986 are the right way to do distributions
>>46784785No they aren't. They cuck Grimmisnarl out of his mixed-attacking capabilities, and makes Wigglytuff slow as balls
>>46784775And Boomburst, it's a balloon that sings.
>>46784810>They cuck Grimmisnarl out of his mixed-attacking capabilitiesLiterally fucking NOBODY runs special attacks on Grimmsnarl you stupid fucking faggot. Why the fuck would you bother? He has access to the best physical fairy move in the god damn game and Sucker Punch.
>>46784812>That grimmsnarl>minmaxedYeah tossing a random 5 points into SpD and speed sure is minmaxed!
>>46784812>wigglytuff has a gigantic special movepool and thus physical attack serves no purpose>tuff was already slow to begin withok babe
>>46784810>and makes Wigglytuff slow as ballsTRICK ROOM TUFF LETS GOOOOOOOOOOO
>>46782686Blastoise Original Stats:HP - 79Atk - 83Def - 100SpA - 85SpD - 105Spe - 78BST - 530Blastoise New Stats:HP - 89Atk - 83Def - 100SpA - 115SpD - 85Spe - 58BST - 530This thing having 78 speed is a fucking waste, and it desperately needs offensive power of any kind
>>46784839Minmax is cancer and your argument is shit.
>>46784895>cucking the shell smash set for no reasonawesome, now every fucking scarfer outspeeds it.
>>46784925aight fine, remove 10 points from anywhere but it's special attack and put them into speed.
>>46784919was i supposed to give it 100 base speed you fucking moron? theres no purpose of it having any whatsoever, its a tank dumbass
>>46784895Why the fuck did they make a tank turtle so fast to begin with?
>>46784812The point of this thread is to improve Pokemon a little with some redistribution of stats, who gives a shit if something is minmaxed?
>>46784950we needed to make starter stats balanced, please understand
>>46784816>Boomburst>Draining Kiss>Fire Blast>Psychic>Assault Vest>252 Hp / 200 SpDef / 56 Sp Attackholy based
75/75/55/105/85/30 > 75/30/75/105/85/55no number changes, just swapping stats aroundgives it enough speed that chlorophyll sets aren't such a memealso, the speed boost makes the solar power wallbreaker set significantly less shit
>>46784810Who the fuck runs special attacks on GRIMMSNARL?
>>46785023Based gigachads, that's who
>>46785013>Making Sunflora betterBased
>>46784810>Even worse usable special movepool than Typhlosion
>>46784812I don't think you know what minmaxing is. I didn't cut Grimmsnarl's SPA down to fucking 20. Besides it literally has no use for special attacks at all. Both of its signature moves are physical ones too, why the fuck does it need 95 SpA?>>46784810Anon if you're running special attacks on grimmsnarl you need your brain checked. There is literally zero reason to run any special attacks on Grimmsnarl when his physical movepool has:>Spirit Break>Sucker Punch>Drain Punch>Leech Life>Superpower>Darkest Lariat>Power Whip>Stomping Tantrum>Body Press>Fire, Thunder, AND Ice PunchWhile meanwhile his special movepool only has:>Focus Miss>Dark Pulse>Draining Kiss>Dazzling Gleam>Fucking Burning Jealousy I guessLike if this isn't bait I think you are genuinely retarded.
>>46785027More like absolute fucking retards. See: >>46785075
>>46785075If you wanna be predictable as shit, I guess you could run purely Physical Grimmisnarl
>>46785090Mother fucker what is there to surprise them with? It has no benefits to its special movepool. Every special attack it can use has a better physical counterpart. Not to mention unboosted 95 base SpA isn't going to fucking OHKO anything relevant so what the flying fuck are you gaining here?
>>46785090yeah dude you can run life orb burning jealousy so you can beat skarm and nothing elseoh wait you can just taunt the fucker and win anyway
>>46782989>BROOOOOOOO NON STAB EQ AND SOME 60 BASE POWER MOVES LET'S GOOOOOOOOOO
>>46784950Because REEEE Venusaur and Charizard are fast I should be too!
>>46784975>we needed to make starter stats balancedExcept for Shillderace because, SMALL INDE COMPANY
>>46785170Even Venusaur shouldn't be fast
some mons that I feel that need a better stat distribution>SandslashHP - 75 >>> 80Atk - 100Def - 110 >>> 120SpA - 45 >>> 25SpD - 55 >>> 40Spe - 65 >>> 85>A-SandslashHP - 75 >>> 70Atk - 100 >>> 120Def - 120 >>> 100SpA - 25SpD - 65 >>> 40Spe - 65 >>> 95>NinjaskHP - 61Atk - 90 >>> 115Def - 45 >>> 40SpA - 50 >>> 40 SpD - 50 >>> 40Spe - 160>Banette (Mega Banette)HP - 64 >>> 100 (100) Atk - 115 (165)Def - 65 >>> 80 (100)SpA - 83 >>> 50 (60)SpD - 63 >>> 80 (100)Spe - 65 >>> 30 (30)>VanilluxeHP - 71 >>> 70Atk - 95 >>> 80Def - 85 >>> 80SpA - 110SpD - 95Spe - 79 >>> 100>DusknoirHP - 45 >>> 75Atk - 100 >>> 90Def - 135SpA - 65 >>> 60SpD - 135Spe - 45 >>> 30>Tyrantrum-19 Satk + 19Spe
>>46785162its still miles better than fucking eruption and solar beamalso>low kick>wild charge>throat chop>rock slide>60 bpspotted the FUCKING RETARD, go kill yourself faggot
>>46786472Specs eruption in the sun instantly deletes everything that those shitty moves barely 2HKO. Kys dumbass faggot
>>46786323>all pokemon stats must end in a 0 or a 5
>>46782701scarf eruption faggot/thread
>Shedinja>Total 236>HP: 1>Attack: 136>Defense: 1>Special Attack: 97>Special Defense: 1>Speed: 100The only right answer.
>>46786617Bulky waters, most common type in the gameDragon typesRock typesFlash fireThick fatAny priority moveHazardsAnother scared outspeeding Eruption is amazing and I’ve used it on an all out offensive Sun team in Doubles since it’s actually possible to activate Flash Fire, but Typhlosion needs options. Why the fuck does a flying lizard get ground coverage before a volcanic badger? Why doesn’t Typhlosion have a movepool? Why does Lame Freak claim to care aBout all Pokémon but create Typhlosion solely to be mogged by Shillzard? Whyyyy?
>>46782686PikachuHP - 420Atk - 69Def - 0SpA - 999SpD - 999Spe - 999BST - 999Done
>>46786709Don’t give Lame Freak ideas.
Ok I'll try my best.Dewgong:Original:HP: 90Attack: 70Defense: 80Sp. Attack: 70Sp. Defense: 95Speed: 70BST: 475New:HP:110Attack: 30Defense:100Sp. Attack: 95Sp. Defense:100Speed: 40Idk maybe this Is somewhat usable in a lower tier. Dewgong doesn't give me much to work with. I like it tho
>>46786826>making dewgong slow as shit
>>46782686Dunsparce Original Stats:HP - 100Atk - 70Def - 70SpA - 65SpD - 65Spe - 45Dunsparce New Stats:HP - 100Atk - 70Def - 65SpA - 70SpD - 45Spe - 65
>>46786911How does this improve Dunsparce?
ElectivireHP - 75Attack - 123Defense - 67Sp. Attack - 95Sp. Defense - 85 Speed - 95HP - 75Attack - 123Defense - 67Sp. Attack - 95Sp. Defense - 95Speed - 95Give em the same love that Gamefreak showed Staraptor
Krookodile's old stats:HP: 95Atk: 117Def: 80S. Atk: 65S. Def: 70Spd: 92BST: 519Krookodile's new stats:HP: 95Atk: 127Def: 72S. Atk: 40S. Def: 63Spd: 122BST: 519Give him back Power-Up Punch and he'll be a bad boy
HP - 200ATK - 90DEF - 90SPATK - 30SPDEF - 90SPEED - 5
>>46786946>Cocknose>122 SpeedNo, and die
>>46787646>le ebin dick nosed moxie sweeperchrist
>>46787634I think that might actually be worse.
>>46787666122 Speed is unfitting
>>46786946This is minmaxed as fuck, kys
>>46782686Tried to buff Rampardos without turning it into a glass cannon.
>>46782701>>46782686If Legends decides to make a variant of Typhlosion that’s more physical and able to use his move set, that would be pretty great
>>46786539them why isnt typhlosion good?oh thats right because eruption is a shit inconsistent move that gets weaker the more you take damage, only has 8 pp and its even more cucked by stealth rocksgod you are such a fucking retard kill yourself
>>46791009>special typhlosion locked into specs eruption>go heatran/vaporeon>gets fucking btfo>chad physical LO typhlosion>go heatran/vaporeon>proceeds to not be an useless yellow human and ohkos heatranny with eq/vaporeon with wild charge