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>What is Pokémon Masters?
A mobile Pokémon game that's real time instead of turn based and focuses on collecting trainers instead of Pokémon.

>How to Play and How to Win
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1qhMEnBCrTuruVunszrwvgIPMHHvGOy1WtLdZgwMGl8U/edit?usp=sharing

>Model ripping/datamining project (3vp) FAQ
https://pastebin.com/6GWPiFu1

>FAQ
https://pastebin.com/Dy6jDWPH

>Eggmon Simulator
https://pokemon-masters-stuff.github.io/#/egg-pokemon
>Lucky Skills List
https://pastebin.com/TRa1tKsd
>Lucky Skills Recommendations
https://pastebin.com/q3H97qbY
>Sync Grid Builds
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1vF42uzF-xpkcfIU2gVEY4Dl7sS_I3ITj8g5X2lo1usA/edit
>Sync Grid Simulator
https://pokemon-masters-stuff.github.io/
>Damage Calculator
seppin.html.xdomain.jp/pokemonmasters_damagecalc.html

>New Sync Pairs
https://pastebin.com/yscAWcE5
>New Grid info
https://pastebin.com/NGxumS4d
>Upcoming Events
https://pm-events.github.io
https://pastebin.com/u/Absol-utely

Previous Thread: >>45923439
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pokemon master sex lol
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>>45925107
Funy lol
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May has two holes
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>>45925096
i rolled for may not this ugly bara fish
second op without may
fuck you
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She's so fucking cute my bros. Now I ship her with Brawly.
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Fuck Lillie Fuck Lillie Fuck Lillie Fuck Lillie Fuck Lillie Fuck Lillie Fuck Lillie Fuck Lillie Fuck Lillie
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>>45925106
they didn't forget to talk about zinnia!
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>>45925116
Odd I rolled for the mud fish since this is fake may
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>>45925097
Canon couple
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I tried 3/5 May + Skyla + Winona on Karen 1500 pts and kind of expected more damage desu ..
though she is 0/20 CS1, but still ..
obviously best tank is SS Blue, but using him unironically means getting carried by him

thoughts ?
drop Winona or keep ?
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>>45925122
Zinnia tried acting cool while leaving but immediately went back for the group photo. What a dork.
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>>45925118
I too am sexually attracted to Lillie, Anon.
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>>45925127
Yeah May isn't working as well as people said.
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>>45925134
>/pmg/ was wrong again
What a surprise.
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>>45925131
I am not anon. I despise Lillie
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>>45925134
May is just Water Red?
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>>45925127
>Winona
Retard. Drop for may for double striker
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>>45925134
She cant be a fully dedicated Striker and a weather setter at the same time, anyone smart realized that and built teams around the idea.
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>>45925148
I dont have SS Grim
others kind of suck
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>>45925140
It's also possible that other anon just sucks, like most people who frequent this general.
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>>45925150
whats your team
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>>45925144
Why?
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Is this another moment where pmg took Poce's opinion way too far?
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>>45925154
Misty is basically a striker that also heals anon
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>>45925159
Im not going to explain, i just hate her.
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>struggled with entei when i was a total newfag
>now i can just do it in one go like nothing
The legendary arena really need a master mode of some sort to make you use more than 3 pairs
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>>45925157
SS Blue, Misty, and May. Works perfectly fine and is super fun, if you're doing a short quick stage you can replace SS Blue with Winona or the tech Squirtle.
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>>45925167
>SS Blue
no shit
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>>45925117
Awww cute! I've always shipped Roxanne with Brawly though
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I think I need SS grim and try double dps with May
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>>45925157
Try SS Elesa and Tech Squirtle
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>still 2019 dena copyright on home menu
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>>45925170
I mean, should I run someone else? lol

Those theme type skills stack bro, you get so much bonus stats it's absurd. Plus I get to abuse SS Blue's rain tiles as well, do you want me to use Marlon instead?
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>>45925180
EoS soon...
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6EX with May!
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>>45925127
If you have a 3/5 May why do you need Winona? May herself is the Rain Setter and has MPR. If you run another rain dance striker, like Clair, you can clear it faster than what May runs out of Rain Dance charges.
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>>45925182
no but SS Blue carries so hard that it barely matters
and Id want her to work well with any tank
Im talking from MM perspective where SS Blue is a precious resource
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>>45925182
I'm Pro-May but using SS Blue as a way to show she is good is hardly good since he can make almost any shitter good
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>>45925185
Ugly
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>>45925187
Clair is a shitter and I dont think Raging Rain 5 will save her, but I'll try

SS Grim is probably best though
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>>45925182
Master Mode you don't want to waste Misty and SS Blue.
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It's time.
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>>45925187
I run May, Clair and SS Elesa.
Elesa raising her own evasion and May lowering accuracy go very well together. Elesa also pumps down the Synch Gauge, specially useful it procs multiple times. She also increases Crit, Sp. Atk, and Accuracy, all of which Clair and May need. May and SS Elesa go very well together.
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>>45925189
>>45925188
That's fair, if you're talking about this with Master mode in mind then she can easily be run with Winona or the tech wartortle which can give you extra rain refreshes if mpr2 doesn't budge. It can also let May do extra damage since she doesn't waste turns setting up rain.

Honestly? Any other support works, she has lots of options on her grid that lets her be kinda self sufficient like dire rain or the intellect one. Skyla, Sabrina, SS Blue, or Misty will all probably work perfectly fine.
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also I expected faster gauge out Racing Rain 4 + 2 desu

I guess in the end the best thing for gauge refill is high base speed + speed buffs
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>>45925202
Also this is good because you're never gonna use Winona or the eggmon with any one else, so you can preserve a unit when doing master mode.
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>>45925199
on who will you use it?
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>>45925201
this should work well if you can kill them before the first sync in MM
if you cant - the sync will wipe you out 100%

I'll try it
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>>45925210
Steven. According to /pmg/ he is the best striker right now.
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>>45925201
>Elesa raising her own evasion and May lowering accuracy go very well together. Elesa also pumps down the Synch Gauge, specially useful it procs multiple times. She also increases Crit, Sp. Atk, and Accuracy, all of which Clair and May need. May and SS Elesa go very well together.
This guy gets it
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>>45925185
This
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GOT IT IN 3 COOKIES LET'S GOOOO
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>>45925217
If you're low on gems, just wait to see if there's someone you want for Valentines/1.5 anniversary
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>got 5/5 may in only 35k gems
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>>45925191
kys leafprecious
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>enemy keeps setting up Sun
Fools have activated my trap card
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so basically the Winona strats are meme, right ?
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>>45925189
why would you ignore the best team compositions when it comes to pair potentials?
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>>45925126
>>45925097
why do sh*ppers always need to pretend everything is in love with everything else when it's just two trainers being rivals
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>>45925242
When you're trying to show how good a unit is, even if May benefits more than the average unit from SS Blue, using a broken unit that can make pretty much anyone usable as proof doesn't exactly do much to prove your point.
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Regardless of how good May is, once again coomers showed up in numbers.
Based.
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>>45925235
Ugly poster
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>>45925249
coomers run this game
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>>45925239
No it's not, it's perfectly viable and sometimes optimal in Master mode. It's similar to Red and Blaine stuff
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>>45925238
HOLY SHIT ACE ATTORNEY REFERNCE WOAH WHOLESOME
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>>45925245
Keep seething.
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>>45925256
I tried and got wrecked
wasnt enough damage from May alone
unless using SS Blue of course
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>>45925186
Just keep spamming Heat Wave and they will eventually die
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>>45925254
Always brother.
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>>45925245
retardbro...the hoenn games were literal next door crushes with one of them being the new neighbor, rival gives you a plush, oras has them watching shooting stars together, spin off pokespe has them as literal pair too
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>>45925242
SS Blue is a bit of an outlier and a wild card. He literally makes everything work. It's fine for shit like FFB's and Villa, but stuff like MM means you want to use him sparingly. If every team you have only works cause of SS Blue, then how hard do you get fucked when he's unavailable?
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Clair bros, how to grid her for Mays team ?
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>>45925249
>coomers showed up
>no coom art
bro??????
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>>45925264
plus the so called rival is the other mc choice in hoenn while other games usually have a specific rival for both male and female mc, wally is there as parallel rival that you help to toughen up
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SS Elesa really does seem very necessary here
she synergizes perfectly with both May and Clair
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I got a question for May bros since I wasn't lucky enough to pull her. Can she possibly function as the tank? I'm thinking something like May, Clair, Sabrina so that Clair can finally start popping off with a rain buddy.
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>>45925280
>crit
>accuracy
>SpAtk
>faster syncs
>paralysis
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>>45925280
No healing there, so it's gotta be one of those kill fast or be killed teams
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>>45925285
of course
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>>45925285
Well, you do have refreshing rain and between paralysis, accuracy drops and evasion memes, ridicure has a higher than average change of activating. But yeah, basically.
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>>45925298
all of those wont help you against a sync vs 1500 pts buffed enemies
without Def/SpDef buffs for the whole team it will one-shot
but against regular moves yeah those are all good
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>its another episode of "enemy team sets sun for you so red just obliterates everything even harder"

lol
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>>45925311
>>45925186
:^)
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Tested May in MM, she absolutely raped Karen although I used the Tech Squirtle and SS Blue so eh.

What other support or comps do you guys think I should try?
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>>45925311
>2 fire guard (-30% fire damage each)
>>45925186
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>>45925311
All the pairs in that fight have fire guard so it doesn't work as well as you'd hope.
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>>45925311
yea its pretty funny
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So is it still
Steven > May > Cynthia ?
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Yep. Entei caved in like a bitch. I remember the first time I beat it I used Cynthia and Acerola because DeNa didn't consider flinch haxx.
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>>45925311
Replace Red with Brendan and pretty much.
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>>45925327
with SS Blue May is up there
without him idk, need to test the Elesa + Clair/SS Grim team
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>>45925327
Ehhh as a may fag i'd say no, depends on what you expected. I just used her against all the elite 4 members in master mode with 1500 points set to each and she raped them all so idk.

Problem is that she pairs with SS Blue the best and some people don't like that, which is understandable since you wanna preserve a unit like that sometimes.
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>>45925327
More like
Steven > Red > Cynthia > May
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>>45925330
i thought they recommended flinch?
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>>45925285
You can easily replace the second striker with another support.
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>>45925330
Entei is weird, he does terrible damage but has annoying shit like trap and burn so you want flinch.
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Best grid for MM 3/5 Steven?
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>>45925327
No, May is great, but more like Gloria level until the competent players wake up and figure out how to use her.
I say Gloria level as a good thing
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>>45925223
Nice, I actually got motivation to finish Boring Villa for once since I run out of striker cookies.
Hope I will get CS2 soon, atm I'm running Power Flux 3 I got from silver cookie
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>>45925354
Agg, haymaker, sync
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Ridicure is a meme. You want Third Act and Leg Up.
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>>45925360
>no TS H.E.
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>>45925360
You should make a trip code so I can know just to disregard everything you say.
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Id say May has potential and is the best to pair with SS Blue
but not an 'I win first try' button if used without him (he has that effect on most above average strikers)

need to figure out her optimal comps for MM
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Pretty impressed with May, she's literally a free win on any Master mode fight I may be struggling with. I don't think she's quite Cynthia level tho, maybe with some more time we'll see more.

I don't even have her EX'd so I can't complain.
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>>45925375
what team
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>Phoebe's grid sucks dick
>but since she's not that popular, she won't have a vocal fanbase of people bitching about her grid like they did with SS Blue
>Dena will never fix her shit grid
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is Hide and Sync worth taking ?
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Time to test her
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>>45925397
Uh yes
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>>45925395
they didn't even fix n, fixing phoebe is a pipe dream
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>>45925381
I messed with a couple, the strongest one in master mode is absolutely SS Blue, May and tech Squirtle/Winona.

Of course you don't always wanna waste SS Blue, so you can use another support like Skyla or SS Elesa which works too. Her damage output is just so good, it's just a shame she got cursed with mpr2 instead of 3.
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that's a lot of 6exed mays
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>>45925406
Coombros run this general.
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Reminder that Brendan is an honorary pokefair striker
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>>45925412
Hoenn cannot stop winning.
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>Paypigged so I could get the remaining tech coins I needed to upgrade holiday Skyla to 2/3

>Got May and Volkner along the way

Honestly, not even mad oink oink
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Which nonfair sync pairs haven't spooked you yet? What's the longest between a pairs release and you actually acquiring it?
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>>45925425
Brendan. Launch to like the Gloria ticket rally thing.

Seriously, that long.
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>>45925425
lyra, took one year
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>>45925425
Fantina here, have everyone to her prior (except holiday Siebold but he doesn’t count). Other permanent units I’m missing are Burgh, Clement, and Nate but I have the rest including May
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>>45925425
Only missing Wally, Gladion, and Lillie from the non-fair pool. Probably Sabrina, only got her after the prestige event, but now I have her at 3/5
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>decide to buff maymays vs ex flannery
>2 may teammates
>at least 1 is comfirmed ex
>both send swapert lead
>both have vigilance
am i missing something?
i mean acc drop and blue buffs plus whatever other buffs can be worthy of vigilance
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>>45925425
Lyra. Don't want her.
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>>45925426
That is obscenely long.
>>45925432
Actually the same, regarding Fantina. I just pulled Plumeria today, which was my only other pre-June 2020 unit I was missing
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>>45925425
used to be lyra, now she's 3/5 from 2 recent banners plus ticket
then wallace, 4/5 in 2 recwnt banners plus ticket
finally ss grimsley and serena still not appearing
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>>45925412
i was lucky to get spooked by him 4 times
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>>45925425
I dont have Sabrina yet, and Ive been playing since before she released.
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>>45925448
oh and the bug chasing faggot from unova nobody cares about
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>>45925453
This one hurts
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Wow these 1500 paid gems for a 6 pull things are fucking terrible. You get a candy coin but no scout points.
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>>45925436
I'm still missing those two from the Aether family too. Pulled a few Lusamine though
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Is anyone going to regrid SS Blue for any rain nodes ?
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>>45925425
Been playing since May when Jasmine released. I've wanted Karen and still don't have her.
I just want a dark-type
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>>45925474
You can have one of my 17 Karens. No lie. It's probably more than that now. I stopped keeping track. It wasn't until the 1st year anniversary that I got another pair past 3/5 despite playing since launch because I got her on nearly every banner i pulled on
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Show 5 stars

>Which ones have been your faves?
>Are there any pairs you’re planning to raise to 5*?
>Whose move level do you want to raise the most?
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>>45925425
>both BW protags
>Morty
>Lisia
>Gladion
>Lusamine
>Plumeria
>Kris
>Volkner
>Glacia
>normal Blue
>SS Grimsley
>Jasmine
SO WHAT IF YOU CAN SEE THE DARKEST SIDE OF ME
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>>45925487
Too early for surveys. I like these but do them later.
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>>45925186
just so you know, Syncs ignore Guard skills so if you pick the sun tile in the grid you can pretty much just sync 3 times with Red and win
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>>45925493
are you a hoardfag?
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cringe schizo spamming and seething at jap masters account because it wasn't a kantoooo event lmao
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>5* striker candy finally arrives
>no one to use it on
I mean I know Plumeria will just spook me later on
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>>45925487
cant be bothered to post it
>Which ones have been your faves?
cythnia and hilbert i cant wait for his grid
>Are there any pairs you’re planning to raise to 5*?
No, only did mew and torchic i rather exchange for 5 star tickets
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>>45925520
Just save it for the next fair or prestige
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>>45925520
definitely save it for a limited character
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its kinda unfair that Steven is the best in LA and his EX is the best in MM ?
Hoenndev slipped under everyones noses until just recently

I hope there is a Sinnohdev planning something for 2021
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>>45925540
>kanto pandering
>unovadev
>now hoenndev
Pretty sure next one will be Kalosdev
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>>45925540
He's broken and I'm happy.
Redtards were trying to escape the truth by still acting like villa meant something months ago but here we are now.
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>>45925140
>/pmg/ was wrong
some anons predicted that May would be shat on for 'muh carried by' because her best supports and strikers to buff with rain are SS Blue and Misty.
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>>45925553
donut forget future ex summer steven being the hail king too
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>>45925553
Why would you want your favorite pair to be broken?
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>>45925553
I don't think I have ever seen any Redfag say Red was better than Steven for Master Mode. You're probably butthurt over Red still being better than your favourite (excluding Steven).
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>>45925580
just in yesterdays thread
also cope ;^)
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>>45925586
No proofs. Got it.
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How's my grid?
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>>45925580
>>45925589
Not him but this one was really funny.
>>45915340
Red fags are indeed annoying and retarded.
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>>45925589
>>45915340
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>>45925592
great!
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>the ai actually picks flame wheel to thaw
>still bullshit freeze torkoal every turn
>buff mayfags and we finish it 3 turns before sync
even if the ex stages are weak and need harder modes now it's still fun, also any mudkip stage is welcome
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>>45925596
>>45925604
Well you delivered. We got one then and it's uncertain if he's a troll himself since he didn't try to back it up.
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>>45925592
it honestly takes a high iq and being a rock & morty connoisseur to understand this grid
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Steven > May > Cynthia > Brendan > Red > Gloria
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>>45925624
I love May and played this game solely for her (and was the first to Ex her in this general) and would still place her at the end of that list.
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>try phoebe's grid out
>she still has speed issues even with two MGRs on shadow punch

goddamn it
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>>45925473
would only do it if we had grid presets. Doing a grid reset twice is annoying.
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May needs to be figured out more
May + SS Grim should be dishing out a buttload of damage, enough to clear anything w/o SS Blue

I dont think May alone as the sole dps + rainsetter is good enough
(with 2 bulky supports (SS Blue) you can survive the sync and keep dpsing, but then you also need to use up both of them onto 1 fight)
hope the SS Elesa comp works out well

Gloria needing enemy to sync quickly is kinda anti-synergy with MM where you generally want to delay their sync as much as possible
she does have Fairy damage though
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>all the content done in mere minutes
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>>45925655
no grind, love it
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>>45925144
>t. Lusamine
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>>45925656
No grind, no nothing
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>>45925646
the grid is legit worthless right now since you are still going to use Skyla with Phoebe so the MGRs and defense buffs are pointless.
If they make a speed+spdef with no crit buffing then Phoebe will have her niche
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May is probably the best non-limited striker now but I do think her strengths have been slightly over-sold. Needing to either waste turns re-using rain dance or bring another dedicated rain setter is awkward.
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>>45925185
>le 6ex gives her l'epic fangs of doom from teh official fanfic xD
Why did discord trannies spread this misinformation?
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>>45925665
It was said in earlier threads that using May as your only striker and not looking at her as a rain support in water teams first would be disappointing for you. Even Barrys Bubble is decent aoe under rain.
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>>45925665
Brendan is better.
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>>45925665
>bring another dedicated rain setter is awkward.
I mean, it works for Cynthia.
May needs a better rain setter though to help her out.
If you don't bring another rain setter, there's no reason not to bring another striker though which balances that out a bit.
I'd say Brendan is still a bit better though
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>>45925665
A good amount of people predicted this.
Scared to voice my opinion since mentioning Cynthia can cause problems here but with her team you can really see the benefits of a good weather setter over a pair with weather on it.
Not sure why there is still so much drama around acerola.
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>>45925675

It works for cynthia mainly because acerola has a 1 bar spam with 50% flinch rate. Both winona and egg blastoise are pretty terrible, so yeah we need yet another rain dance user (or rain on sync please god give it to hilbert) to actually make her great.
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Acerola both boosts and "holds back" Cynthia at the same time
its weird

Bertha when
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>>45925681
Use the kabutops if you're going to keep bitching about it
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Wow japanese fans are vocal about the new sync pair and they are not happy. Theyre discontented with the way the game is going and them dumping an underwhelming weather setter. I guess they were holding out hope for a better tech. There's even a petition that's garnered thousands of signatures to have more MPRs added to the sync grid. Obviously that wont happen but it shows how unhappy they are.
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>>45925679
Holy fucking shit.
Rain on sync support EX Hilbert and he gets ag on waterfall for his grid? That would be sick.
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>>45925674

Brendan will be better once something has grassy terrain.
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>>45925687
i never did a single egg event until this current one, and thats only for the Raichu
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>>45925677
Anons here are using May without another water type who can do decent damage so the significant variable as to why May is underwhelming for them is that said anons here suck at team building to be honest.
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>>45925679
>>45925692
Weather on sync has been pretty shit. Most pairs, Summer Steven including, have wanted weather earlier on or they want to be syncing themselves.
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>>45925425
Phoebe. I'm playing since launch and I rerolled till I got all current 5* expect her. Now I still didn't get spooked even once I think my account is cursed to never get her
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>>45925425
SS Grim and Nate
thats its
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>>45925705
It's awkward for Summer Steven because he is the striker.
This is about the support setting it up.
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First pull, noice
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How many power-up tickets do you get again in Master Mode every week if you manage to get them all including the points based ones?
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>>45925710
May also wants to strike.
Cynthia and Red wouldn't care. Brendan would though, depending on the grid
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if you run a tank (not SS Blue) + May + SS grim - what order do you sync them in ?
lets say if either both are non-EX or both are EX
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>>45925718
Is addition too hard for you?
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>>45925425
In terms of old pairs, there were a bunch I didn't have until just a few hours ago when I spent a ton of gems on May's banner. Lyra, normal Elesa, Plumeria, and Wally. Been playing since launch.
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>>45925710
It's also awkward with Lyra and some fire types. Gridless Blaine is better for Red and Hilda because Lyra takes their sync move away which is the best thing about them.
In that case something like SSteven EX is much better because the sync is valuable.
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>>45925710
Steven is extra lucky and advantaged because he has EX Rosanta to buff him with the support EX and Hail all in one of you have her.
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I think Ive been underestimating SS Elesa in MM
she is perfect for Special teams that want to kill the enemy before sync
SS Cynthia, May, Clair etc.
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Got 2 pulls of may with the 3k gems I had allocated for this, pretty happy.

The second full force fight was a bit tricky even with all my mons. Used my Ice/hail team for my 3rd team.
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>>45925729
People parrot poce too much here. She is getting better with time honestly.
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>>45925736
>She is getting better with time honestly.
yup
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>>45925736
>poce out of nowhere
>still mentioning literal whos
i refuse to believe there is more than one pocetard in here shilling for his channel
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>>45925721
with May + SS Grim it might be best for May to tank with Sabrina buffing and healing May. Also fixes her 5-10% miss chance.
First sync for May and the next with Grims. Afterwards it will largely depend on the fight but if rain is not up them Mays sync is trash.
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>>45925718
Ignore this rude faggot:>>45925722
the answer is 90
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I have 2 strike candies from the times when Dena didn't take full greedy fucks route yet, should I 3/5 my Steven if I'm doing just fine with 2/5 0/20 at 1500 MM?
Also I don't really have tickets to 6EX him since I've just used most of them on May.
Also why the fuck is Surging Sand the only weather effect that's available in Lucky Cookies?
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Don't forget SS Elesa makes getting sub 2 mins in the time trials irrelevant.
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>>45925736
>People parrot poce too much here
Because people here don't understand how situations can differ or anything like a niche.
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>>45925745
You should 3/5 Steven for sure and save the other candy.
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>>45925746
The what trials?
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>>45925736
She was kicked out hard by SS Blue as top 3 support and never retook that place. Hard to call that aging well. She is still very good though especially with EX.
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>>45925749
There was a mode a couple months ago where you had to clear a fight in under 2 minutes and SS Elesa let Red, Cynthia, and Steven clear when they weren't really made to.
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>>45925758
I'm sorry anon but time trials never existed. If you keep talking crazy we're gonna have to send you to the looney bin
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>>45925758
You either come from the future and just exposed yourself or forgot to take your meds bro
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SS Elesa can still do things that SS Blue cannot - when quick set-up and offensive buffing is required
her "niche" is very good
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>>45925758
SS Elesa wasn't important for giving Red and Steven easy sub 2 mins. Dunno if it was necessary for Cynthia.
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>SS BLUE FOR EVERYTHING DURR
can't wait for the faggot to get usurped just like Red
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>>45925425
Burgh, Glacia, and Nate still haven’t showed up but I’m not missing much with them.
And I didn’t roll Roxie until the anniversary.
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SS Elesa helped, but EX is what was most important there

if you didnt have EX then SS Elesa helped your Pidgeot Blue get an easy low time
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>Elesafags still seethe over SS Blue
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>>45925778
So we can end up in another meta hell?
Let's not act like it wasn't Skyla + Sabrina for everything before SS Blue. Even now a lot of it is just SS Blue + Skyla or Sabrina.
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also Elesa is a mommy and Blue is not
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>>45925787
Based. I use them together.
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>>45925787
You smell like shit. Take a shower
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>>45925800
get some air, fujo
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>>45925781
cope, he's got a bigger cock and more charisma than virgin red and is here to stay as one of the resident gods of the support olympus
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>may is amazing
>apparently she is also retard proof
this is perfect, reminds me of when people said Dawn was shit. Did a 7500 run with her, she's kinda like water red imo but with some different utility.
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>>45925802
homosexuality is against the law
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>>45925805
post teams
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>>45925787
Her kit and holes were made for Blue, Lance and SS Cynthias HUGE dps
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>>45925801
I'm trying but your foul ass is stinking up the place
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>>45925805
If by retard proof, you mean even retards can do well with her, there are some posts higher up in the thread that prove you wrong.
She is great though
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>>45925806
>stating meta facts is homosexuality
you gotta cope twice for this
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>>45925805
More like water Cynthia desu.
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>>45925815
by retard proof i mean that bad players can't make her work somehow.
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Maygods, Im unironically low elo, I whaled for 3/5 May today
tell me what exactly and how to use her, and with who

but - it has to be without SS Blue
go
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>>45925805
she is water Cynthiarola or Red+Blaine depending on team comp. Not bad either way.
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>>45925820
That's the opposite of how you would use the word foolproof so its a bit confusing anon.
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>>45925800
That's just the smell of Elesa's feet still on my face.
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>>45925827
can i smell ur face
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I've never seen a gacha pair being EX'd so mich at launch, not even SS Red. It's full of EX May in coop and pokemas communities. Looking good.
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>>45925805
>retard proof
You mean filter. Retard.
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>>45925833
coomers and female banners keeping the game well and alive
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>>45925833
Looks to me more Red and Cynthias but May is up there.
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>>45925818
>>45925822
Strictly comparing her to any of the big three is ab it silly. She's more like a slightly mediocre version of all three combined since she has attributes of each. Bulky, but not as bulky as Steven. Weather dependent and AoE like Cynthia, but not quite as reliable. Self sufficient to a degree like Red, but only single stage buffs.
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>>45925844
Do you think she joined the big 3?
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>Maygods, Im unironically low elo, I whaled for 3/5 May today
>tell me what exactly and how to use her, and with who

>but - it has to be without SS Blue
>go
^ this is 100% serious
psl help
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>>45925821
>Misty/May/Barry (Barry with Bubble grid)
>May/SSGrim/support
>May/Kris/support (Kris with Flinch)
Basically use her with another water type and use her with SS Blue sometimes also for christ sake. No other tech/striker supplement SS Blue as much as May.
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>hoennbaby's first waifu got overhyped by a board full of hoennbabies
Imagine my shock.
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Dawn and SS Leaf are going to become so fucking broken when grassy terrain comes out.
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>>45925855
thanks, Maygod
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Flannery stands no chance
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>>45925844
How is Cynthia reliable? I love her and think she's top 3 but her main flaw is sometimes you'll have fights with bad flinch rates, no sandstorm mpr, lack of potions of skyla etc. She's a wild card, so much can go right but so much can go wrong too.
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>>45925848
100% no. Solid and great for a general pool unit but most of the Pokefairs are better than her
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3/5 May in 5 multis, not bad at all.
No other 5 stars though, lmao.
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>>45925865
Flinch is still a high percent rate and a higher chance of Sandstorm refreshes than May and her rain refreshes. Also, accuracy isn't an issue with Cynthia
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>>45925844
she is not as good as them in some areas but none of them are a weather support themselves so it applies vice versa as well. I'm repeating myself when saying looking at May as a pure striker and not a weather support with big damage is foolish like it is with Summer Steven.
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>>45925865
I kinda agree with this. Cynthia with bad flinch and sand is still easily top 3 and when everything goes right she can feel like the best.
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>9k gems
>only 1 plumeria
Please May... I fapped a lot to you...
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>>45925865
MM doesnt really require refreshes for sand
and Skyla isnt her only tank - sand Jasmine, Dawn, Misty (for Special dmg) or SS Blue (since this is a short fight) all work well
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>>45925858
They might change the mechanics of Grassy Terrain because of that. It's only been used by Tapu Bulu so far so it's not like a nerf would devalue any existing unit.
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What's the best Lucky skill for May?
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>>45925871
>>45925879
These are also true.
I am so torn on Red vs Cynthia. Steven number one is clear though.
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>>45925883
CS2
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>>45925883
CS
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>>45925856
>6 hours later
>he still seething
as it should be, know your place animal
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>>45925884
Who fucking cares? You have to use 5 teams in the only challenging content so does it matter the exact order of the 5 best strikers?
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>>45925865
Cynthia is reliable in physical stages because of a wide range of defense supports. She isn't reliable if the boss use special attacks in MM. I tried Misty/Cynthia/Acerola and maybe it works with 5* Misty and Cynthia EX but it's certainly a mediocre team without.
Even SS Blue can have trouble carrying because sandstorm tick damage will essentially remove all passive healing he is capable of himself.
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>>45925883
Vigilance
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>>45925893
Seething over what? I love laughing at you kiddies.
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>>45925889
>>45925891
Alright, business as usual then. Thanks.
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>>45925894
It's fun to talk about the game.
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>>45925883
Defense Crush
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>>45925900
>i'm merely laughing haha...
>these are tears from my amusement
>I AM FUCKING CALM!!
>haha these stupid retards and their good sync pairs
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>>45925911
I didn't say May wasn't good. Sounds like you are the one seething because you spent the past 3 weeks talking about how May would dethrone every Poke Fair unit lmao
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new lucky skills when
special defense crush, raging rain, etc...
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Got my 3/5 May, what's her grid?
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>>45925915
i didn't roll on her banner
try again, also you've just admitted she is one of the top units
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>>45925916
>being able to stack rain/sun boosts on top of grid passives and the type damage boosts inherent to those weathers
"no"
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>27k gems
>not a single may in sight

See you at the next select scout bros
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>>45925923
When did I ever say she wasn't? But she's not among the big 3.
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>>45925862
Yeah
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>>45925925
Literally my first pull. Kneel.
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>>45925862
>>45925932
why are people fighting flannery?
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Why is this guy so anti May?
>>45925940
Water gear.
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>>45925940
water weakness
pretty sure beside newbies everyone is done with gear and flannery and brock have the water weak mons
you can challenge any ex with any pair nowadays to check the non type advantage damage too, korrina is the moat avoided one because vigilance
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>>45925924
defense crush and surging sands exist...
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Hoenn.
Home.
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>>45925956
Sand doesn't have a native type damage boost and is overall a shitty weather since it either hurts you or restricts team building.

I agree we need special defense crush.
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Can't believe flinch got better with time. Bonus for Cynthia and Steven chads.
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>>45925921
I would recommend this if you're not using SS Blue while if you are using SS Blue you should minmax power and drop the self-buffing nodes. Using SS Blue with May is apparently cheating according to /pmg/ (it's a joke).
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>>45925976
Why no Refreshing Rain?
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>>45925993
Yeah this grid isn't great. RR should be taken and RFT? MPR not.
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>>45925993
You can take it if you find it necessary. I found it to be overkill and if you are not using SS Blue or Sabrina then Swampert can't buff properly without something like that grid.
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DeNA what???
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I have two 5* red candies. Should I keep them or is it useful to raise someone 3/5 ?
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if you are using May + another (water) striker then I think you must use SS Blue/SS Elesa or ~Sabrina
because Skyla/Misty cant buff anything offensive at all
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So, how good is Clair with May?
I kinda didn't give a single fuck about her so she's sitting at lvl 120, 1/5, 0/20 4* with no grid.
Is it worth to invest in her?
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>>45926055
Maybe ice Steven but I would save for regular Steven or Cynthia and future banners in general.
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>>45926042
Honor students are the biggest sluts. Look how easily Brawly persuaded her to join in with him and Flannery.
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So is May secretly like a striker like Misty or is she there to run interference? I'm not sure how to grid her out.
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>japanese guy who 5/5'd may is insisting on not evolving mudkip cause its his favourite

kinda based ngl
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>>45926105
Soul
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>>45926105
time to abuse that water gun
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>>45926042
I thought she was a teacher.
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>>45926105
How is Mudkip's grid ? Does it have MW nodes ?
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Wow, SS Elesa actually works better than I thought. Look alive and on a roll allows her to actually dodge shit, it works rather well. God bless the anon who recommended it earlier.
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>>45926195
>He didn't know SS elesa was incredibly based
What the fuck?
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>>45926200
Usually she’s outclassed, but here she’s great. Forgive me I kneel
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>>45926195
May as the only striker + rain setter ??
isnt that low-ish dps ?
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>>45926235
though I guess you can survive a sync and keep going
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>>45926235
I mean, you tell me. I cleared a 1500 point master mode fight with a 0/20 May with everyone alive and well.

That’s really all that matters, but it is important to not waste turns and only que moves when you need too. Gotta use rain turns wisely
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>>45926257
you did tank 1 sync, right ?
how many turns to kill after that ?
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>>45926195
Slowpoke anon she has always been great.
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>>45926279
Yeah we tanked a sync, you can’t really kill before that happens unless you have type effectiveness. After that May did like 2.5k per muddy water to all of the opponents, it’s honestly kinda crazy. My Cynthia usually does around 2.1k with similar settings. Mays sync move non ex did around 5.7k which is decent
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>>45926304
I guess thats an alternative to running 2 water dps
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>>45926304
is your May 3/5? how necessary are the extra dupes
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>>45926304
did you get/need a Rain refresh ?
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>>45926235
It's certainly preferable to aim for water type skill bonus and using someone who can dish out good damage himself with a water move (*ahem* SS Blue) but May is good enough without it.
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Isn't this all you need? She gets it at 2/5. Only thing is OAR but where do you even fit that in?
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>>45926324
Nope, 2 is enough
>>45926316
2/5 atleast
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>>45926340
>>45926340
>>45926340
>>45926340
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>We will never have another comfy thread hit page 9 before incels swarm in to make new threads
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>>45926334
30% to 51% accuracy debuff rate means more missed moves, a little stronger Muddy Water and somewhat stronger sync move.
There is potential for a much stronger sync and self-healing at 3/5 but it isn't crucial like you imply.
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>>45926185
it's the same, i was curious and checked before evolving
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>>45925681
>"holds back" Cynthia
Care to explain?
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>>45927468
So close....I can almost taste her....
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