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New event, score attack and swimsuits on the 10th. Have you completed chapter 4.1 yet?
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Yes. And for the first time in months I'm farming the arena again because I want those new boosters.
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>>941525
You didn't have 8 digits lying around?

Currently cleaning up the last two events I still need to do (chronologically the first 2), and waiting till steam release. Carry some chars through the event grind battles for levels, and through the arena grind with the goal to max all chars levels because why not.
Getting ready to be disappointed by the steam port, because it'd be too good to be true if everything would work, you could use it outside of Japan and also pay without issues, and even the subs work. (The latter doesn't in Another Eden as far as I know, so there's a good reason to actually be doubting that to work)
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Teheperinko!
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A dork like Ruka has no right being this appealing...
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>>941627
I'm so jealous of Karerin
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>>941640
Just take over, Karen chan. Some good old kabe-don.
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>>941753
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Eagerly waiting for Bungo's swimsuit
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When will the next 1.5 rate up happen?
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>>941519
As cracked as this Tsumomo is for being able to have both a breaker and attacker ultimate, I have a feeling that the end of month rate up will be Miya
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>>942202
Could be either that or Carole from the Beta and a 31X event.
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Even awakened Tsukasa got creeped out by Sharo...
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Isuzu no
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how can they port a game that is not completed yet?
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>>942648
What?
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>>942653
wdym what, my question makes perfect sense
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>>942657
No it doesn't. Are you in the wrong thread?
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>>942660
are you in the wrong website? this place is for people proficient in english
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>>942648
Why would that prevent them from releasing it on multiple platforms? They make assets and scripts, not their own engine.
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Is anyone else getting crashes for Day 10 in chapter 4?
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>>942648
The game is available to be played, and that is ported. A gacha is never "complete" until it's dead. Completely dead that is.
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>>942678
Oh nevermind, I just turned off fast forward then it was fine.
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>>942677
>>942688
Oh right, didn't pay attention to the Free to Play and In-App Purchases mentions on steam and thought they were about to release it as a regular b2p game. I feel like this isn't going to be well received.
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>>942694
Weird, maybe an emulator issue? Game never crashed in the entirety of chapter 4, at least for me.
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>>942703
I had that issue too on my actual phone, not during the chapter itself, but when rewinding to do things like Miya's bond event. Completely rebooting my phone is the only thing that fixed it for me. It's an officially reported issue at the very least.
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>>942707
Oh then I don't know, maybe WFS will drop a patch once the steam release drops next week.
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>>942698
Why? It's (luckily) more and more normal that gacha get PC versions. To be completely honest, HBR is not a good game for phones. Because not just heaven burns red when you play this, phone does as well. It's a battery burner.
I don't mind doing the short daily grind on a phone, but all else would definitely be better on PC. Maybe I'll even dungeon shuttle to level skills.
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Steam payments are not being covered by the funny revenue shitposting site, right? Can't wait for the doomposting.
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>>942751
Yeah that only covers Android and iOS. Game's doing good in terms of revenue, on Aoi gacha release we were just behind Uma.
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>>942789
I can understand the Aoi+Yuki banner and the swimsuit banner, but in general I'm mindblown by how many whales this game has. I just don't get it.
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>>942703
I use my phone, it was after the battle with the Tama talking scene I just turned off fast forward and auto and it fixed itself.
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>>942723
Steam's community isn't used to this so I feel like there's going to be lot of disappointment. It's not the port that makes me think of this, just steam. For other mobile games it's usually just a browser version.
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>>942816
Who gives a shit about a bunch of disappointed EOPs? It's not a global release.
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I'm sure Steam's valuable community will be shocked that it has more content than 99% of the early access garbage on the store.
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>>942824
Bad publicity is still bad publicity. People give bad reviews over nothing and it isn't good considering that steam use them pretty much like reddit upvotes.
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>>942792
I throw money at the game too because I like it and I'd like for it to continue for a while.
The most surprising thing is, that there's no PvP or a dick measuring contest incentive to whale really.
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>>942858
Yeah, that's my point. This is a story driven purely PvE yuri game. Many of the usual reasons to whale aren't there.
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LB2 Karen-chan from the tickets, what did you guys get?
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>>942867
Kanzaki
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>>942867
LB2 Bungo. Was hoping to be able to drop her soon, but I can't complain.
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>>942867
Wakki, and then Wakki. But also Wakki.
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>>942816
Genshin exists by now. Steam also has gacha, one of the biggest one in the fucking industry even. It's called dota 2. Sure, idiots exist everywhere, but so do they on the app stores.

>>942867
I don't roll yet.
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>>942867
Tsukasa
Which is nice considering all the other fire SS I have.
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>>942867
Kura. Like her as a character and didn't have a light attacker yet so I'm not complaining.
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>>942867
LB2 Tsukasa, I would have prefered someone new but getting +SP on a Zone setter is pretty nice.
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>bungo second dupe
JUST, PLEASE SOMETHING
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>>942915
But she's a good one to get a second dupe of.
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>>942867
Another Ruka. If I use another 10 gold pieces I can have LB3 Ruka. Don't know if I need that kind of power level yet
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At least Misarin is cute
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I hate how gameplay-wise, it's 90% better to get dupes than new styles. I've whaled 200+ bucks for (1) Yuina only to never use her because my limit broken slash styles are just always better. That 10% boost to stats is ridiculous. Of course it's good that dupes are useful, but non LB styles being far inferior also doesn't feel great. I think maybe they should also give you one gold piece when rolling a dupe or at least let you exchange dupes for a gold piece without requiring you to full LB the character first. It's definitely not Magia Record levels of bad for non LB characters, but it still could be much better
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>>942950
It's definitely frustrating. I'd love to be able to try out different lineups, but I also know that having the options to do so would automatically imply having a lower ceiling for the content that I can do, which is really stupid.
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https://twitter.com/69_slv/status/1556013713840164864
I now want a comedy OVA about them playing party games.
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>>942930
I agree.
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Does leveling Kozue's ult serve any purpose at all?
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>>942867
I want anything other than 3rd Seira dupe and got 3rd Seira dupe
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>>942867
shit
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After seeing a low quality fanart of Megumi getting a "character development haircut" after 4.1, I now have a new "fear" out of nowhere.
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>>943650
It'll grow back
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I loved her event more than chapter 2
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>>943670
Kanata is pretty damn good at the end of her event, yeah.
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>>943670
Still my most disliked event. Especially the end was awful. Trying to be all serious all of a sudden ain't working, with a character of that type.

The only good part of this event were the small Hisame moments. Suppose there's one good thing though. Unlikely there's going to be more about that char.
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>>943735
I found the sudden serious turn to be the only salvaging point. Being able to both vent her frustrations like that and still carry on with what must be done, not least because she'd so quickly grown to trust her temporary companions, was a great sign that she's ready to take over as 31F squad leader from Yanagin and was a well executed moment that suited her character.
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kek love the background stuff
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>>944124
That line really cracked me up the first time I ran by it. Also Iroha dragging herself through the base every time we see her or Inori actually patrolling the entire off-site base.
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https://store.steampowered.com/app/1973710/_/

Saw the steam page for it up, went ahead and wishlisted it, so hopefully can just download it and it won't be region-locked
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>>944158
It's been up since the announcement stream, but yeah, same here. It should also make asset extraction much more comfortable.
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https://twitter.com/Hinata223471131/status/1556055895876173824 嫉妬ね…
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>>944248
>3 tweets
>124 followers
Hmm?
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>>944250
I don't get it
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>>944248
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Got SS ninja with the tickets and grabbed the ch4 boosters/chips and decided to give orb boss a try and finally cleared lvl 1 after getting my ass destroyed by it when it came out. How hard is the jump from lvl 1 to 2 and 3?
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I am gonna try this game is it only in jp so far?
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>>944324
Ye
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I hope it gets translated at some point looks like a nice game
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>>944341
you can just use ocr and read it on steam....
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>>944355
It's not out yet on steam
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Aoi came home..
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>>944269
give it to me straight... is he clearable when my only good SS are fire?
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>>944382
I had SS Mari to change the field to ice, which makes the damage manageable. There's no time limit like score attack, so as long as you have healing and steady damage, you can stall it out if you can outpace its 10k self heal. I put the ice auto attack ring on my fire Ruka and just had her auto and full break.
I think the ch4 boosters/chips helped a lot too though, since I went from my Chie/Tama/Bungo getting broken by the single attack before I changed fields to tanking it no problem.
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>>944475
I'll have to try it out with the ch4 chips then. Unfortunately I don't have Mari, the only field changing unit I have is Tsukasa...
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Is it particularly difficult to get event welfares? I wonder if I can get the upcoming one even though I only started recently.
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>>944723
not really as long as you have 10-11k power to auto the 2nd highest ranked boss (S tier)
it's still doable even if you only farm A tier
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>>944723
Completing the event story rewards you with enough currency to get the event welfare outright.
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It's a shame Yukki isn't here for the needle bird impersonation.
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>>944124
The one with Karen-chan screaming at the wall got me
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>>944723
It's piss easy. Buying up the entire store never has been a problem. There's should also be an item in the event store which you can use to permanently unlock past events.
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>>944650
If you have Seira it's doable with burst. Otherwise it's either a field unit or insane gamba with disables... that I haven't tested so can't guarantee if that even works.
My tankiest units could take a punch okay, with the aoe attack being like 95% damage. Can't outheal that shit, so either it dies right after turn 4, or you can remove the field, or otherwise cancel the aoe.

Still think this shit isn't worth it unless you remove the field.
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>>945003
I can just about do level 3 without a field now, but I'm very lucky by f2p standards at 13800. If you have too many LB0s it's nearly mandatory.
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>>945039
I'm not particularly unlucky in terms of units, but level 2 just refuses to drop more +1 braces. I must have run it like 25 times and the only two I have are still from the first 3 runs.
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>>945039
Oh yeah, I should add that my orb boss tries were before the buff of the accessories you can make with the cat (I only ever made one and that rolled at 10/10 def, which made me laugh and ignore it) and before chapter 4 as well. My tankiest characters were LB 1 normal Karen, and lb 0 MC and Monaka but with higher level cap. All equipped for as much def as possible of course, including the acc slots being at least +2 of a def stat.

The aoe is nasty as fuck. I think the additional def you can get now might slightly help, but I think it's still too much without at least 3 lb2 characters, or lb1 with lvl 110. No field removal, no Seira mind you.
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>>945109
Very true, the accessory buff is a big part of why I can do it like this now. Before that I definitely needed to ult with Higumin at 3 but it was manageable after that.
I've actually always been more worried about the single target attack. It still fully breaks my LB2 Higumin if I don't drop the field as she has a full DPS build, and while Tama and Kozue with their tank builds can take two to the face without any issues it's still a multihit attack at the end of the day. You can sacrifice squishies like an ulting Byakko or other LB0s on the AOE turn but you certainly don't have that luxury on ST turns.
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posting this for future reference, don't reply if you finished the chapter please thank you
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I don't understand anything but the game looks nice I hope I unlock this character at some point
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Could someone baby me with compositions for the special chapter 1 boss? I haven't done much optional stuff and only have basic 5* accessories.
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>>945307
You mean the "hard" mode? Slash attacks get a very high crit chance buff, so there's no reason why Wakki shouldn't lead the frontline. Miko has a damn cheap def down that you have no reason not to use, and you can either take Tama for the added survivability or Yanagin to make Wakki's crits a near-total guarantee and thus not have to bring Seira along. The rest are extras, though not having another slash LB1 DPS is unfortunate and so is you not having invested much into Higumin or Adel who would both otherwise be my extra picks.
On the way to the boss, just autoattack repeatedly during the trash fights, pop OD3 to give everyone +20 SP, occasionally use something like Wakki's AOE to get a lot of OD in one go if you're in any way concerned about damage taken when fighting 3 enemies. By the time you reach DeathSlug you can easily have 60-80 SP (possibly higher but it's overkill by that point) and another OD3 ready to use, which completely trivializes the fight.
Definitely try and get a few more accessories if you have time to do so though. It's not like the fight is hard, but if you go for the OD3 spam strat it takes a short while to actually get there, and if you don't then you might have a harder time.
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>>945304
She's just the best. Keeps you on your toes, too. She's the only one whose ultimate attack has a chance to fail, but it's really strong when it doesn't.
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>>945321
>really strong
No. On average her ult is one of the absolutely weakest. It'd need to be at least twice is strong as it is right now, to actually be worthwhile given that this game is all about buff and debuff stacking. If she'd at least not lose the buffs if she fails, but nope.
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>>945344
Are you accounting the misses in the average? In a game where you can safely retry with no real punishment there's no reason to worry about that. 4.1, for instance, even gives you the dungeon rewards and lets you change your party before facing off against a miniboss, so the game is only becoming more and more retry-friendly with time.
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>>945344
Are you trying to tell me her damage multiplier isn't 1.5 times that of other breakers like Sumomo?
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>>945319
Well I do have the resources to strengthen the others, but I've just been lazily using the same 31A combination for most of the game.
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>>945354
Good taste. Now's as good a time as any to try something different though, and if you bring Yanagin along in your first party you can even have your entire old 31A party as the backup if you run out of ult charges for your first party.
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which one should I roll for?
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>>945370
Aoi/Yukki's half anni banner
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>>945388
idk their names you mean the girl with the glasses or the other one?
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>>945391
The one with short black hair. I recommend rerolling until you get an SS.
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>>945396
At least I got the loli i wanted i am happy with that
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>>945350
There's no point in gambling a 50% if you simply do something else. You just waste your time. Doubly so without Seira, where you might need to gamble Shiki crits already.
This also sucks ass in any fight you can actually prepare for. (OD and such)

>>945351
Yeah. Against DP she barely has 10% more power on success compared to Sumomo and -100% on failure. How is that a good idea with it being literally a coinflip?
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>>945400
You can do better and get her SS version. Be warned content gets tough later, so I really suggest rerolling if you can be bothered.
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>>945413
>Doubly so without Seira, where you might need to gamble Shiki crits already.
Orb. Not a guarantee, but there's not enough content where that punishes you. The misses are still not worth accounting for because the odds of even an LB0 SS missing often enough to be a problem are infinitesimal. I would've conceded the argument if this was still prenerf chapter 3, but it's not. All current content apart from high SAs is on the easy side right now.
>This also sucks ass in any fight you can actually prepare for. (OD and such)
The hard mode is the only current content where this applies. Even phase 3 of 4.1 FlatHand counts as a different fight.
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>>945351
Sure she hits the hardest, but I prefer consistency and get it done in one try. You have fun with coinflips though.
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>>945415
oh well I am just saving for now I spent them all BTW what's her name?
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>>945441
Bungo Yayoi or Bun-chan. Chapter 1 is all about her, too. Hope you understand Japanese.
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>>945450
I don't that's why I asked i can only understand a bit when they are talking
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>>945495
Not to discourage you from playing, but by missing out on the story, you pretty much miss out on 80% of the game (at least for me, the last 20% is me being an autistic tard on score attack)
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>neglect the daily grind for a month
>can't clear day 6
>suprisedpikachu.jpg
welp time to go learn what the gemstones do, what an "orb boss" is, and how to earn enough GP for the latest boosters and chips in less than a month
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>>945729
That's fine I'll play it again once it gets translated
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I think I understand the others but what does blaster do?
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>>945425
I'd not mind Bungo this much, if it weren't for how all the additional shit on attacks work. They all are calculated against the stat of the enemy. So even if an attack buffs you, it's calculated against the enemy stat.
I don't think you can go lower than the min. value, unlike with damage where you can, but it essentially means you have a 50% missing chance in mattering content. That's just an unnecessary waste of time, unless Bungo is your highest LB. A single LB on a character will already deal way more damage with their ult than Bungo would without that.

I'd like Bungo if they made the attack crit with a 50% chance instead of raising its damage by 0-50% compared to other ults. Without the failure chance (on failure simply no crit). But alas.
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>>945752
>how to earn enough GP for the latest boosters and chips in less than a month
I have bad news for you.
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>>945874
Blasters increase the Destruction Rate of enemies (that % that you see when you break their DP) mostly used on endgame content to be fair, but I do use Karerin quite a bit for dungeon cleaving.
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>>945874
After you break an enemy's shield, a Destruction Rate percentage will appear above its health. A higher DR means your attacks will do more damage. They're most useful for bosses with lots of health because dungeon mobs die too quickly for DR to matter, but they often come with strong attacks and AoE, too.
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>>945900
>>945894
I see thanks anons
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Does it matter which girl I date?
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>>945916
no, you'll need to date all of them eventually using time travel anyway
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>>945923
time travel lesbian sounds good to me
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This is my first SS is she good?
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>>945988
She'll do. Good dungeon aoe, and while her ult is 1 hit only, at least she is an attacker and not a breaker. Breaker 1 hit ults are the worst kind of game design.
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>>946013
I see but what about defenders and debuffers are they good on a team?
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>>945988
Do you mean you did your initial 10-roll, didn't get an SS and kept going? Rerolling is really simple. Ideally you'd want 3-4 SS units before you even start playing. You're gonna have a tough time if that's the case. Yuina is great though. She gets an extra turn after buffing her team mates and she hit's pretty hard.
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>>946021
I think this roll was ok i got the loli she brings good luck
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>>946020
In all honestly, defenders are probably the least needed. You want someone who can party heal (either SS Tama with S Tama for the skill, or Yanagi), as well as buffer and debuffer styles. Or just SS Seira, she's the most broken buffer unit, though it takes quite a bit of playtime before you'll appreciate her. Pretty useless for quite some time.

If you reroll, do yourself the favor and get a party heal and Seira. If you don't, come back to ask once more once you beat chapter 2 or so. Then you probably have a better idea yourself, have maybe some more units.
If you are VERY unlucky with pulls, it could be that you are semi screwed. Mind you, even with rerolling Seira and a party heal that can happen, as you still need some SS attackers (like Yuina you pulled there).
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>>946065
I see thanks for explaining i like the game so far even if I don't understand japanese
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>>945923
I'm sorry.
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>>946083
show the top half
if you did no one's except Yukki's you're based, in any other case you're just wasting gems
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So, what should I pour my 99 life stones into to become able to clear chapter 4?
Gemstone prisms?
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>>946086
That would be so hard to play. No, I only did events during the story as I could (preferably thematically fitting stuff like Aoi in chapter 2 which I REALLY recommend doing). Anything else I only did if I had to because I want to use the style and it requires it, or a soul that's not in an event shop.

One of the biggest reasons I look forward to the steam port is so I can get through this list. On phone I tend to play daily gacha muted, so I'd need to get my headphones out for these events. It's why I lag behind on story in literally all gacha I play, and generally only do event stories and such that go on a little longer. (in HBR's case the main story is obviously fine, too)
On PC I have audio anyways, which will make this a lot nicer to chug away on this little by little. I could also use my lifestones, but I dunno how fun that'd be.
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Praying to Kaki that the Steam version is not fucked up.
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>>946431
praying that it also gets translation at some point
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I really wonder how they'll try to localize this
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>>946507
Imagine
>localizing teheperinko
>localizing ruka's name as luca
No thanks, this is the main reason I learned japanese in the first place.
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>>946528
>localized teheperinko
>silly me!
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Datamineanon can probably confirm later, since I just learned how to check assets.
Other than the event, there's the Score Attack rewards and the new chracters.
I'll spoiler just in case, it's not story related.
I see a new Orb, OD Gain +15%, boss is weak to fire
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>>946528
Teheperinko is some of the least problematic parts to adapt, it's a simple silly meme. Now, adapting Tama's 2ch memes(especially when they can't use 4chan lingo like a fansub would do) or Megumi's thick kansai dialect, so people can actually grasp how she talks as a character, that's fucking "give up" tier.
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Nice, this is something I asked for in the feedback survey. You can repeat a Prism now.
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>>946769
Looking forward to the skill level up item that they implemented.
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They finally have practical rewards for score attack scores beyond 120k. I don't like this, but it was only a matter of time and so far it's just the skill guide and more medals.
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>>946769
Nice. I would've liked that before I grinded all the fucking events from the past. (only have the very first left for additional stuff like quartz, LB mats)
Also I hate that first event. 35 coins per battle only, and no exp on the fight either. What a fucking waste of time it feels like, but LB mats are important, and quartz is.. well, quartz.
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This new song just might be my new favorite
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Steam release tomorrow?
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Looks like they quickly learned their lesson from the disappointment that was hard mode DeathSlug. Hard mode RedCrimson has a 320 stat check and looks significantly more menacing.
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>>946613
>Megumi's thick kansai dialect
valley girl, take it or leave it
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>>946454
Well in most cases a global version will be a brand new game separate from the jap version anyway. So i won't be surprise if the steam version gets region lock to japan. We can always make a new steam jap account to counter this easily so it's no big deal.
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>>947005
No. Steam is pretty anal about this.
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3 new mp3s: SB106, SI0063, SV0063
3 new dialog models along with MiniCutIns for the new swimsuits. As usual, just download the new pbz files and the json file if you already have the program.
Also of course new backgrounds and unit images.

Looks like the link hasn't been posted in this thread yet: https://mega.nz/folder/FEJmyT7S#JuWVjfu62qrPPpmby46x8g
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Swimomo...
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Was there a lore explanation about why they have different seraphs in their alts or is it still in "don't think about it" territory?
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>>947080
To my knowledge, nothing about SS2s has ever been mentioned in the canon.
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Is it kamige?
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https://youtube.com/shorts/wHQOFdBaLuk?feature=share
Cute cover
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I thought Karen was always in Karen-chan mode while wielding her seraph, but it seems they can switch back and forth as long as it's not currently active combat? Did she do that before too and I just didn't notice?
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>>947157
I think they just used the wrong model by mistake.
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>>947162
No, the nametag and voice are baseline Karen's too
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>>947157
This is why I was hoping that SS2 Karen would just be Karerin wearing casual clothes or something. Missed opportunity.
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>>947163
She also doesn't hold seraph in this moment in the cutscene even though Karen-chan has it before it starts.
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I see they changed the spacing of skills you can select in battle. The 4th skill in the list is now just a tiny sliver, but at least I can still click it.
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>>947249
Noticed it too. Thankfully it's still touchable.
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>Megumi is at the back with Aoi
1 step closer to dropping this kusoge.
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>>947399
You'll be back.
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>>947399
Karen-chan knows what the real prize is
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W-What did she mean by this...
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>>947884
It means she might get killed by Yuki one day, if she does a wrong move. Or russian girl, who watches.
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>>947884
she had sex with the girl you dated
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>>947884
She's very good with her fingers. Her onee-chan can verify that.
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>>947953
>her memory story
Lewd.
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What's the fastest way to boost your team's powerlevel? I finished chapter 1 and did a couple boss fights and dungeon runs, they're sitting at 4.5k right now.
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>>948190
For now the only thing you can do is reach high levels through prism battles or afk farming with the arena. Once you're strong enough you can try clearing the memory dungeon and grab some good accessories.
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>>948221
Okay, thanks.
(pic unrelated I just thought my pink conga line was cute)
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Got Tsukasacchi on my first 10 roll, then Sumomo on this ridiculous roll. With this Mari dupe, I have LB3 Mari now, my first one.
Didn't have to spend too much luckily. Good luck to anyone rolling. Gonna read the event now.
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>20 rolls and nothing
駄目ぽ
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This is the first time I specifically rolled for anything since launch and it took me 45000. Geez.
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>It's an Aoi event
I didn't see that coming
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Steam.. please... I need to roll
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>>948373
Nevermind it's in 14 hours
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>>948373
So it is region-locked I guess? Opening up the page doesn't give me a download option
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>free 3k
Thanks but still not rolling.
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Is it not on Steam for us pleb gaijins then? I was willing to give this game a try if it was going to be on PC...
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>>948399
It's still under Upcoming for me, so it might be a time issue? Right around 11 PM EST, it said 1 hour left, then under an hour left, so gonna try checking at 12 AM
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It's not even supposed to be up yet. Check your sources better.
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I will just leave this here kek
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steam is canceled
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>>948422
Good. You can already tell it's a mistake.
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>>948416
It doesn't even say the time, only today.
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>>948387
How do these things keep track? If those stats include inactive players then that's really good. If it includes only active players then uh....
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>>948442
Yeah the vast Steam playerbase
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wabiishi soon
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Here you go retards

steam://install/1973710
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I really hope this Tsumomo alt doesn't mean they're going down the rest of 31B for alts next
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u rike?
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>>948481
sumomo is ugly, it should have been full 31A, maybe megumin
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>>948481
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>>948475
Thanks
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Couldn't get anyone in 80 rolls, guess I'll just hope Tsukasa will spook me in the future.
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Damn, ruka is stacked I thought she's like B cup
Imagine how big Yuki's 3D model would be
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アウト
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So, steam version so far works. Issues I've seen:

-I didn't have much left, but my "paid" quartz are not accounted for. I only have free. This.. could be a serious issue, or has something to do with being outside of Japan and sales not being supported or whatever.
-Can't get the sub, as I kinda figured would be the case. Not like Steam wouldn't support subs, but Another Eden didn't support that either.

If purchases in general work I dunno.
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>>948475
Tested working on new account. No region block, no controller support and looks really good on monitor. Not gonna link and going back to smartphone usage scared to get ban for being gaijin.
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This is like 100 times better than Bluestacks, looks pretty good. I'll keep buying my paid quartz on my phone and just use the steam version for general play.
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>>948509
That's normal for any game when switching between devices.
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>>948483
トロピカルだねぇ!
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>>948520
EOP beggars have zero self-awareness
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>>948519
Right now I can't get back to the phone version as the data carryover fails with an error code.

>>948522
You mean that paid quartz is gone? Strange.
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>>948531
Yes, like switching between Apple and Android.
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Thats new fucking kek
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>>948531
Did you try setting a new code + pass?
I assumed you could have the same account on both without switching back and forth, but if it's going to be like this I might just stick to mobile
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>>948531
I just tried to log in on my phone and it works fine. It even says that my last login was on Windows. I'm using Gmail transfer though.
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>>948540
>>948544
I use a google account, it also tells me my last login. It just gives an error.
If all else fails I could still delete the account and do google transfer again?
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80 pulls for Sumomo and Tsukasa, and got a Scarlet Karen too. I’m fine with that result.
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>>948557
Envy...
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This fucking event, I can't stop laughing
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>my waifu in 4k
very nice
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Steam version is pretty good, they didn't fuck it up, bravo WFS.
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>>948551
I just realized there's a new version of the app out. Trying it later. For now summer event on PC. It's so much better already.
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If you add special characters to your password, change them if you decide to switch over to PC.
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I got the cat in my first 10 rolls. Should I keep going for Tsukasa or Ruka? Tsukasa's description didn't really impress me.
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I just noticed there are 3 SS Pieces and 1500 quartz in the shop now. Pretty good.
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steambros.... it's literal steam....
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Downloading the Steam version now, any advice for someone just starting out? Also the title music is pretty amazing.
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>>948588
It's up to you really.
Ruka is the event welfare so you don't roll for her. Tsukasacchi is very strong IMO, she has partywide Higumin's doping on 10SP, which could come in handy and you can also Generize her unique from her regular version if you have her.
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>>948588
Ruka is free, if you don't like Tsukasa just hold.
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>>948593
Seira's the best unit in the game, if you have the time it's worth rerolling to get her. The story's the best part of the game and even events are repeatable (using an item) so even if you take the game at your pace you'll be able to enjoy everything. The music stays that good throughout, it's probably one of the best things about it
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>>948593
Reroll until you have at least 3 or 4 SS units before you actually start playing. It might take a while, but rerolling itself is pretty fast. If one of them is this girl, then you unlocked easy mode.

>>948596
>>948597
Right, I totally forgot Ruka is free.
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>>948589
hoping it's not just a one off for summer, if we get 3 SS pieces per months now via events I'll stop bitching about how important SS dupes are, 4-5 free dupes a year (if we include the SS pieces from score attack) sounds pretty alright.
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>>948520
>4 english
>3 japanese
>3 chinese
Surprised there aren't any koreans yet
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No gamepad support for steam version?
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>>948600
Isn't it literally the same as before? They just moved the vast majority of score attack rewards to the event store.
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>>948591
nyoo... this isn't the steam I wanted...
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>>948593
If you don't have Seira your account is bricked
Seira + at least S Tama is required. Them + the welfare Kayamori should carry you till chapter 3 where you'll want an SS with an elemental ult unless you're prepared for lots of grinding and going on the long haul with certain fights
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>>948640
Bungo, you shouldn't be playing videogames right now.
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So what do I need to do so steam allows me download the PC version? Change the store region to japan? Do I just open a new account for this?
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>>948509
>>948531
>gone
It won't transfer. If you look at the data transfer page in the appendix/faq it says you won't be able to move paid quartz across different platforms.
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I was withdrawing quartz from the chapter 4 bond stories, I didn't expect Wakki's to make me tear up.
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>>948640
Just in case anyone else gets this bug you can force it to fullscreen with alt+enter and then fix the windowed resolution from the settings.
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>>948648
just click this
>>948475
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Is there a button to go back to the title screen without having to restart the game every time?
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>>948665
anon.... its in the setting....
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>>948672
I'm sorry I thought it would be a button not a setting. thank you.
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>>948662
thanks anon
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Okay the teheperinko got me, consider me a Kayamorifag. Karen also seems interesting, I wonder if she has a dual personality?
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>>948359
I find the number of heads of the event boss very suspicious
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The game looks surprisingly non-shit on pc, you probably can release on the consoles with this quality too.
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>>948685
Not just non-shit, but running at 144 FPS as well. The only issue I have is how dizzying the animations look in fullscreen, but otherwise this is a great port.
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>>948520
Reminder we are not entitled to anything and they can ban all of us if they wanted to.
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>>948713
This is more about the different laws everywhere. You need to add this, or simply disallow anyone outside the country to access stuff.
Remember there are countries where the gacha part may not be allowed and so on and so forth. Or some of the content might be questionable.

This disclaimer has been on games since forever. Any game you bought since who knows how long always had this "only for distribution in this country" shit on it. You could still import, no problem. But you'd not get support from the publisher, as they don't publish it in your country.
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Wait, is what happens in 4.1 the first time they discovered Megumi can stun cancer and all her stuns in gameplay before that is out of universe meta thing?
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I wasn’t expecting the Steam version to have achievements. I wonder if they’ll add trading cards, and more importantly, the various wallpapers and other stuff you can get on Steam.
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>>948687
In a way, the beauty of phone games. They need to be efficient or else they don't run on phones, and a lot of phones offer high refresh rates and screen size, so the game kinda needs that as well.

Thus the pc version is toaster friendly (while my phone runs through battery and gets plenty warm) and runs nicely on good machines with 4k screens and high fps as well. Needs a quit to desktop function on the arena afk grind screen though. The game actually crashed when I force quit it there.

I will stick to this version. Outside of quick prism battles maybe. For what it's worth the new version of the app did the trick and the carryover works on my phone as well now. My 150 paid quartz are also still there.

Need to try buying something on steam though. Got nothing really to lose, as I can't on phone anymore, thanks to google. The sub not being available is a bummer though.
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よっ!!
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>>948747
TROPICAL JIGOKU
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>>948749
And in the middle of everyone screaming about ghosts. I love that Karen-chan has perfect comedic timing.
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Speaking of hell. Tama went through hell several times, and nobody cared. Not even Megumin. Rip Tama.
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>>947052
Is there are any major diffrence versus steam version?
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>>948759
>>948591
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>>948759
I think the audio is clearer. At least the voices. Might however also just be that on phone voice playback had issues unrelated to quality. Weren't big issues, but especially when chars were screaming it wasn't pretty. I didn't hear any of that today via Steam.
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Tama getting all excited about finding a vending machine was cute.
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>Steam port is solid
>won the rate up flip
Nice
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>>948759
The assets aren't split up into a separate apk and a messy directory with thousands of files anymore. Now they're all in a huge directory with thousands of files. As far as I can tell they're the same assets, at least the ones that I'm interested in, and finding out which changed should be even easier since I can just sort by modified date.
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They still haven't officially fix the missing install button on the steam page lol.
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>>948781
Who knows, maybe something doesn't quite work yet? The port functions, but maybe purchases aren't working or whatever.
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kino
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>>948591
why would they censor that wtf
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>>948800
Ruka's arms...
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>>948800
Rukas clavicles....
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Didn't get Tsukasa or Sumumo but I got Ichiko and Isuzu instead. I can now make a full fire SS team.
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>>948791
I’m quite sure they deliberately placed that dirt on her boob to make us think it was her nipple
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>>948800
>>948591
It's ruka's arms and the other girls
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I can't roll until Halloween Byakko now
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>>948800
I feel like maybe there were multiple versions, because this event had no steam and isn't exactly tame.
This steamy version feels rather familiar, too. As if I've already seen it before... quite some time ago though.
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>3k gems for Appstore rank 1
Based whales
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Is there an easy way to mute and unmute the game on Steam or at least control the volume? I prefer to only listen to the story segments during the main story and events, not the battles.
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>>948868
Just open your volume mixer anon
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>>948880
I want to be a スーパーハッカー, not fiddle with that window. I'll just make an Autohotkey script.
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Godamn this Yukki alt just erases dp and hp in one ult
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Yukki pits
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>>948899
Tsukasa is the weirdest by dressing normally.
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>>948867
can i get this on Steam ?
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>>948905
Ye
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>>948899
>Ruka, Megumi
Sex
>Yuki, Tsukasa, Karen
Ok
>Tama
Sentenced to cringe jail
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Just got her from the tutorial roll, how good is she gameplaywise?
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fyi for any newfags, the 3k quartz for the half anni and the 3k for no.1 are handed out to new accounts as well, so right now it's possible to reroll with 9300 quartz. Took me around 3h to get a 6 SS account and three 5 SS accounts so now is the ideal time to reroll.
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Uploaded a steam controller config
give it a try
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>>948918
aoi is better
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>>948387
how do more people have the ch3d3 achievement that the ch2 achievements?
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>>948964
I don't think that's accurate since the game wasn't even up yet.
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Honestly don't know if I should just keep this or start rerolling. With my luck this might be the best seed I can get.
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>>948899
remind me to go to akiba next week
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>>948926
where
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>>948971
Just bind the account so you can access it later and reroll for an hour or two, you got nothing much to lose. If you don't get anything better, you still have that account.
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>>948975
Check steam controller config.It should be there
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>>948976
We can bind on Steam? Thank goodness, my fears are now gone. Can't believe I haven't played this game earlier.
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>>948989
Yeah, go into the settings menu, right tab, scroll down a bit. You can bind it via code just like on phone.
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>>948990
Already found it, but thanks anyways anon. Wish me luck.
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>>948989
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I never thought that simply capping DR at 300% could turn a fight from being reasonable to being massively overtuned. This score attack is rough.
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>can't access the event until I beat chapter 2
Well I guess I know what I'm gonna be doing today.
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>>948899
I miss Megumin, she's my favorite character in the game...
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how good is hisam-ecchi?
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>>949049
Kinda bad. Gotta bring a lot of love with you, or LBs.
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>>949042
It's for your own good.
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>>948899
making the MC a tomboyish girl was truly a godlike decision
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>>949049
Only useful if you can make use of her elemental Def debuff, her ult is terrible.
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god, the game runs so much better on steam than on emulator for me
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>>948475
>steam://install/1973710
is this against steam tos or am i safe to download this on my non jp account? pls tell me.
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>>949129
Well you can just download it from
https://steamdb.info/app/1973710/
same shit
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>>949129
Something bugged and they themselves are not yet sure what, some nips can't download it too.
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is this how i transfer my mobile account to steam?
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>>949158
Yea, use it'll ask for your bind stuff
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>>949158
Yeah, if you linked it to an ID+password or a Google account before.
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>>948971
Mine is a bit better but no seira still.
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>>948899
You see Yukki pits, I see mesugaki Otamasan in need of armpit correction
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>>948976
>reroll for an hour or two, you got nothing much to lose
except an hour or two of your life
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>>949195
I spent days rerolling in other mobage, you think I value my time?
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They said they fixed the install button.
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The Skill Guides just level up a skill without mats, right? I don't think I can hit 160k on the score attack, but wondering if it's worth trying
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Is this game's story fully voiced? And can I get through it like I'm playing a single player game or is rerolling recommended?
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>>949254
the enemies in story are pretty tough later on so yea...
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>>949231
They indeed did.
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>>949254
The story is nowhere near faceroll tier. You need to keep up to date with your party.
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>>949291
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>>949254
Rerolling is highly recommended because it's extremely quick and there's a huge difficulty spike in chapter 3. Also, you get one F2P spark (200 rolls) just by playing through the story, but after that, quartz income is honestly pretty bad and saving up for another spark takes a long time, so if there's any character you really want you better reroll for them right at the start.
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I want Ruka's swimsuit model but on my SS Ruka.
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>>949323
They can get away with it because it's Ruka, but if like Tama's, Megumi's or even Yuki's swimsuit was wasted on an S, I imagine myself seething like a motherfucker.
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>>949323
Introducing a different model for an S style is one of the weirdest decisions they made so far, I'm hoping we'll eventually get an update that allows us to freely switch between the different character models regardless of which style we use.
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>>949326
Yeah I want this too, a skin system. If they do a survey again I'm definitely gonna suggest it.
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>>949326
What they need to do is generally allow S and A style actives AND passives to be available. There are actually so many interesting passives A and S styles can get, but they are virtually useless as nobody uses those styles outside of very early on maybe, where you don't have the LB to get those anyways.

Some are even really awesome, like Monaka who gets 7% def (aka damage reduction) per charge. 10 charges are max -> 70% damage reduction. Of course, a lot are kinda lackluster, like small buffs to frontline attack of specific types/elements, but still.
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>>949271
>>949317
Is this reroll good enough? I dont mind buying the 2 ss guaranteed paid gacha as well. I stopped with these 4 because I wanted swimsuit tsukasa and I get another cute blondie.
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>>949346
>seira
Yeah, you're good.
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>>949346
This would make your biggest goal to get any SS Tama or SS Yanagi. It's not too bad of a goal, but as always, gacha can be harsh. Beyond me why there's still no good free healer in this game.
S Tama can work though, as long as the fight has free turns for her to heal.
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I dunno how a person can be as unlucky as I am. The last 150 pulls no SS. The one guaranteed now is the absolutely worst thing it could be: Basic Yukki dupe.

I think the game wants me to quit really hard.
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>>949391
I went through all 200 pulls on the Aoi banner with just Yuki at 20 (not useful at LB0) and an offrate Ichiko at 190 (the most useless SS I have right now). Makes me wish I could trade away my unwanted SSes.
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I've been using Seira less and less now that the orb is a thing desu. It's nice to free up a slot for score attack.
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120k score attack was a lot better than last week. Next week should be even easier, as the boss has no DP regen, or adds, so the +50% DP isn't going to be such a shitshow as last week.

Boss isn't that scary with damage. Gotta gamble not getting Shiki hit by single target, and no break is possible if something crits. My luck wasn't that great but Monaka settled with a big crit at the end.
Free with Seira as always. Downside is, doing this isn't actually giving you as much as you'd normally get. I think it was something like 1500 coins which is just the 5 S Tickets you'd normally get, plus other stuff. No more event dungeons also means much more grind.

Not sure I like this change.
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How is wish different from full enhance?
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>>949481
It's doping without the demerit.
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>>949489
Oh it's attack in general
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Someone post their friend invitation code, I'll use it.
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>>949501
yp5w5vywvrs8hoz9
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i should have learned japanese too but i am too lazy for that
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>>949537
Don't open my old wounds...
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Remembering PC Tojis makes me appreciate the competent Steam release even more
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Wait so swimsuit Tsukasa just doesn't get a specialty accessory? what the fuck
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So she stopped WW3?
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>>949595
basically, also you can check out this dude he translated all of the character descriptions
https://twitter.com/AozoraLookout/status/1436726888966275072
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>>949597
thanks anon
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>>949595
She could've or she could've not. Who knows~
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>>949595
She made the greatest tsukkomi mankind has ever witnessed, stopping the war.
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>>949588
Check the event shop, it's called Prayer
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I trolled her
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>>949615
Ah, thank you kindly anon
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This Score Attack was the hardest in a while, could've avoided the break for a couple more points but RNG was fucking me over a lot.
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This duo is fucking great.
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I like the game so far playing it on steam helps me translate it better i hope I get good rolls tomorrow cause I only got one SS on mobile
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Every now and then I remember this game (usually when one of its songs comes up on my playlist) and I get angry that it's gacha instead of being a normal JRPG. I hope eventually it goes EOS and they just make a normal JRPG out of the resources.
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>>949810
I can't think of any examples of a gacha that got EoS'd and was released as a fully fledged standalone game afterwards.
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>>949810
It literally only exists because it's a gacha.
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Don't break the tourist's heart by telling him how much money it makes.
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Anyone got it working with proton?
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>>949810
Sadly you know that wouldn't happen. It would be nice if the whole industry collapsed and took the gachashitters with them, but that would also kill Key in the process.
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>stopped playing when google play blocked payments
>came back on a whim
We have battle passes now? What else did I miss?

(also, it turns out you can just create a JP account to pay even if you don't have a JP payment method. what was even the point)
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>>949923
Payments beyond the first one never worked for me on a JP account. All subsequent payments were blocked by Google themselves after speaking to my bank. It's a bit of a crapshoot as to whether this would affect you as well since some are and some aren't.
Also you can't activate the passes on Steam. Gotta stick to mobile.
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>>949924
That's gayer than yukki.
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So, I tried to buy stuff via Steam and it works. (I really liked the last event. They just had to pull out the Aoi card on half anni) This also should prevent any region locks that may or may not happen to actually lock me out. SHOULD. The steam mentality of making you keep anything you pay for, regardless of what happens with the game.

Anyway. I'm the guy who got the fucking Yukki base dupe from the free 10 roll SS. Now I did the paid and got? Right. Yukki. Also the Karen Chan alt.

Time to use the worst SS in the game. And I suppose I should get Karen chan alt's abilities to base Karen chan that is lb1. Also reincarnation necessary. Oh boy.

Anyways, my bad luck streak of no SS ever from random pulls is finally over. Was this good luck though? Probably not. But in the end I pay to support the story, and my spark is almost ready with the free stuff they give you from anni. Now the wait for a Seira redeem banner begins.

But man, the game REALLY wants me to use base Yukki. What are the odds.
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>>949938
Ah never mind. You can't generalize new styles. Guess it's pointless to use the Karen alt then. Shitty system.
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>Awakened Tsukasa has a unique voice for her alt's ult
Cute
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>>949938
Wait, the standard Yuki is bad? I've been using her this whole time. Should I drop her for something else?
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>>950093
Depends on what else you have. She was my breaker for chapter 3 and did her job just fine.
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>>950096
My only other SS Breaker is Sumomo and she's already on my squad.
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>>950093
I have no idea what he means. I've been using her since launch for everything.
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>>950093
Her original SS is terrible, yes. Good thing they overcompensated for it through her alt.
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>>950093
Standard Yuki is okay, she's just more geared towards fights against multiple enemies (eg. dungeon fights and gem prism bosses) rather than against big singular bosses.
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>>950093
>>950142
I'll also add on to this, that while the story isn't "easy", it's easier than the tryhard score attack levels. She especially established her reputation here where she is a lot worse due to low single target damage and breakers just being less useful than attackers or blasters.
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>>950160
So would it be better to run 1 breaker+1 blaster instead of 2 breakers? I've got Byakko and the ninja girl on my bench that I could try.
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>>950169
You usually need a blaster for tanky enemies like bosses anyway because they up the DR (that % you see on an enemy after breaking their DP) and thus allow your actual DPS to do significantly more damage in the HP phase. General rule of thumb when learning the game is to have 1 of each non-Defender type, know how they work, then figure out what the individual characters actually do and when a situation might call for a Defender or running 2 of the same type or other variations that you can think of.
Both Byakko and Adel are really good. Running one of them would definitely be good for you.
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>>950173
Alright thanks. I'll swap out my Yuki for Adel. My Sumomo is +1 so I'll keep her.
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>>950176
What's the rest of your lineup looking like right now? You probably won't end up in a position where the game actively challenges your lineup until 3-14, so you've got plenty of time to get used to it.
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>>950177
This is my roster. I wondered how far I could go without grinding and my answer was chapter 2 day 19 which filtered me. So now I'm doing the dungeons and prism battles.
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>>950182
The lack of a buffer is an issues, but there are some S buffers you can potentially bring along that should at least cover you until you get an SS. Everything else looks good, even without Seira. Sumomo being LB1 does a lot to offset her SP issues and should easily serve your DPS needs well, even against HP. Only thing to keep in mind regarding choosing between Adel and Byakko is that Sumomo and Ruka are both Slash (斬) types like Adel, and you might not want to put all your eggs in one basket because otherwise you might struggle with enemies that resist Slash.
Yeah, do some grinding for a bit, get your overall levels up through arenaing overnight, spend some arena/prism mats on the character parameters and skill levels and you should have no issues getting past that wall.
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>>950188
As far as buffers go I have LB2 Tsukasa and LB2 Shiki, although I'm not quite sure how useful S versions are.
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>>950192
If you can get one more LB for S Shiki she'll serve you really well. At LB3 she gets a passive that gives the back row 1 SP if she's in the front row at the start of the turn. Her partywide buff is also really good.
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>>950195
She just dies in one hit. And is gambling pure.
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>>950245
>She just dies in one hit.
Not on 2-19, that's for sure. S-es are perfectly viable until 3-21 at the very least thanks to them also being able to get to level 90.
>And is gambling pure.
Not really. The 20% extra damage stacks on top of enhances and applies to noncrits too, and the backrow SP is no joke. She's significantly better than S Tsukasa and is plenty good enough until he gets an SS buffer.
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Did they really have to censor the steam version? like why....
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>>950251
I don't regret raising Shiki for score attack, but I have literally never used her outside of that. The only reason I can imagine that being useful is if there'd ever be a story boss that's just too harsh and needs to die relatively fast and I can't do it without crits. Grinding fights with her is too unreliable, as I prefer to set up routines that work all the time. Most prisms you grind you end up grinding a LOT after all.
Sleepy head loli event S is so much more comfy maxed out. Only has standard enhance, but at least she is tanky enough to not need babysitting.
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>>950270
>Sleepy head loli event S is so much more comfy maxed out.
Sure, when he MLB's her. He's not even gonna get her for a short while, much less max her out. To my knowledge the latest event requires you to complete chapter 2, and he needs to do that to get the store item needed to unlock the 31E event. That's a sizable detour when he's currently stuck at 2-19. If he then keeps her at LB0 she's strictly inferior to Shiki, and spending his likely limited number of lifestones on low level event prisms to MLB her is not only a huge waste, but also unlikely to get him all the way there as well. He's much better off using what he has until he runs into the first wall that actually stops him for several days, which is unlikely to happen at least until mid-late chapter 3.
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>>950270
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>>950286
I mean of course you use what you have first. Even then I'd recommend Tsukasa though. But that's largely because I used her and know she works reliably up until the end of chapter 3. Vanilla ch3 mind you.

What I mean is that this event S makes life a LOT easier if you are willing to invest. Any other S buffer relies on you utilizing enemy move patterns to switch them in when there's no attack or a single target attack you pray she won't get hit by. Not in ch2, of course, but in ch2 grind solves everything no matter what anyways. Heck ch3 is probably the same nowadays, as long as you use SS.
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>>950297
I did the same with Yunyun on my alt, also before the nerf. He'll be fine with either, but the usefulness of the full party Enhance is quite overrated compared to having another def down or the 20% dmg + chance to crit, especially when both also come packed with the backrow SP+1. You're obviously right in the second paragraph, event S-es are specifically there to help you fill holes in your collection, but he's not there yet and he's not gonna be there for a while. After that, sure, but for now he's gonna have to work with what he has.
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I hope other elements get elemental buffs. Stacking 2 Dopings, 2 Ichiko buffs, critical, 3 defense down and bursting for millions satisfies my numbers autism.
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>>950325
No idea who could get one on the thunder side though. S Byakko? It wouldn't even help herself.
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>>950329
SS2 Byakko with lightning ult! Would help with high scores.
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>>950337
I'll take any excuse I can get to get more mileage out of the best squad, but if we're diving into SS2 territory then surely Seika or Aoi would be more likely get a thunder attack up buff. I was thinking more about the S-es we haven't gotten yet (Ichigo, Seika and Byakko, with Seika already being quite SP-hungry and having 2 buffs).
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>>950341
Well 31A only got their fire enhance up from another team. 30B is the only lightning squad, and honestly they are one of the tightest (optimization wise) squads already.
I wish Megumi had fire defense down and Tama had fire enhance but oh well.
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Byakko's alt will be a dog costume
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>>950364
Wrong nya. I have a leaked image of Byakko's alt right here nya.
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>>950341
>sp hungry
No problem.
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>>950376
If only her ult didn't cost 13 SP without even affecting her. I can't even drop the def down the turn after using it. Useless cute chuuni.
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>>950378
I love her so much. Her memory story was really cute.
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>>950346
>I wish Megumi had fire defense down and Tama had fire enhance but oh well.
Megumi is weird elemnents-wise in general,
It's weird Megumi doesn't have fire anywhere at all unlike every other 31a member who either got it on default, on alt or on both. I wonder if it's some sort of a "plot synergy" thing.
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>>950389
I hope her little show will get a sequel when she finally gets her SS2.
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>>950390
I thought they might be building the alt 31A as light, but Mahou Tama is fire and then so is Yuki and Tsukasa. Yuki is great but I was hoping Tsukasa would have light zone. Now I'm back to hoping Miya will have it (as well as a def down, she needs it badly).
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is there a better ocr to use for translation?
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>>950431
Better than what? I only need it occasionally, but I use Capture2Text.
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>>950440
i tried that but it was bugging i found another one called visual novel ocr i hope it works with the game
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Has anyone calculated the cost effectiveness of the monthly passes? Do they double the quartz rewards after the first month? 120 per mission for the premium pass sounds juicy.
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i got sugawara on the steam version but idk if defenders are good
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>>950576
Defenders themselves are alright, both Ichiko and Aoi have solid kits, Chie kinda sucks though.
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>>950580
oh well i'll keep rolling i guess i did another 20 on anmiversary II banner but didn't get any SS
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So there's no SS rateup for half anni? Good thing I rolled during 100 day banner
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>>950611
There was for a few days before the half anni banners
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>>950390
She is coming back in chapter 4 part2 as a fire true awaken savior for sure.
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>>950611
There was a 4.5% gacha just before Aoi and Yukaya Yuki dropped.
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Rotary Mole is this weekend's boss. It wasn't that hard honestly, some of the enemies on the way were more annoying.
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>>950799
The new time dimension is too hard for me. Everything is so fucking tanky.
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I love how Tama one-upped Yukki for once.
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>>950908
She's a genius
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I understand the 3 main reroll targets for ez story mode are SS Tama, SS Seira, and S Tama, does the S Tama on the new banner count or does it need to be the other S Tama?
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>>950928
The new S Tama's heal (applies a rejuvenation buff on her and the other 2 in the frontline that heals at the start of the next 3 turns) is different from the original's (big heal to all 6). The old one is still king, but having both plus her SS is exceptional.
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>>950928
Old S is still the best but new S works great as a supplementary option to other skills. SS Tama plus both of her S styles is by far the best healer in the game, but you don’t specifically need to reroll for the whole package since you‘ll get all S styles within a couple months anyway (unless you don’t roll at all after your reroll). New S is easy to get right now because of the rateup, if you have that plus any other Tama style you’re already covered for healing.
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The previous boss is better because the dungeon doesn't have energy.
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>>941519
why is that girl has a crying wojak expression
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>>950995
I don't know, you tell me nya.
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>>951041
Why would she be?
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https://apps.apple.com/jp/story/id1624601538
Maeda interview.
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>>951043
If that's in any way not an obvious joke (and of course it's one), then the only hint I can think of is that, by a small technicality in the form of her current second memory event requiring 3 unlocks instead of 2, you could make an argument that Megumi's current alt is the only SS3 in the game right now.
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>>950928
Man, I'm just not having good luck
>reroll the first super-short part for Tama
>if Tama, proceed to 9000+ gems rolls
>every time I get Tama, adrenaline pumps but then I only pull 1 or 2 more SSRs
I'm done for the day, hope this amount lasts longer so I can try more later
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>>951062
Honestly, the whole reroll madness just has me rolling my eyes. When I got into the game I didn't even know rerolling was a thing and had very little to work with for a while. I still 180k'd the current SA just fine. I think I'd go insane if I tried to reroll my way to a perfect start.
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>>951065
>the whole reroll madness
This game actually got a pretty easy reroll mechanic with the skip intro option. In a lot of gachas people have to replay a bunch of(sometimes long) segments every fucking reroll.
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>>951075
Yeah, I didn't know that until I got to chapter 3, seeing as this is the only game of its kind I've ever played. It's certainly better than it could've been.
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>>951075
i enjoy gacha games that's why i like this i just hope i get better SS cause i got a defender that's not so good
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>>951065
Yeah you did that after doing tons of grinding, saving gems, getting LB tokens, free guaranteed SS tickets, etc.
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>>951098
And if even I can do that as a f2p after missing the launch period, then anyone can.
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>>951097
I used her for a long time just fine. Lolita beam can put in work.
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>>951134
nice
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I finished rerolling yesterday, here are some leftover accounts that someone else might want. I wasn't rerolling for meta so there's no Seira + Tama accounts here or anything.
I anyone wants one, link a temp mail.
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>>951043
Because they want to see Megumi's megumis.
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>>950173
>when a situation might call for a Defender
that's every situation for me because I have LB2 Chie and LB0 few other shitty units
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>>951065
I rerolled for like 30 minutes just to get the bare minimum, but my gacha luck has been total shit since then and I can't get more than 110k on the current SA...
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>>951168
What have you got right now (accessories included)? It's one of the hardest SAs yet so no shame in it, but we could help you out.
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>>951143
each one of those accounts is better than my day1 account
not taking though, fuck replaying and regrinding
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>>951143
that's nice anon
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I like Chie but I don’t really need her for now… maybe when she has an event for IMmerSion
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>>950982
I went in with my usual comp thinking it won't be that hard, my usual comp could get through the 2 DP phases but was about to die since the boss has like 2 million HP, in the end I barely cleared it with my 2nd team which contains the SS Tama I just rolled like 3 days ago.
This boss is almost as bad as the orb bosses.
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Is this good enough to stop rerolling and eventually clear all story content if I grind them enough (saving pulls in the meanwhile)? No Tama, but have Seira. Is Mion good enough to heal? How about the others? I'm aware Chie isn't considered very good but I don't know much about the others.
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>>951262
that's great, don't even need Tama when you have Yanagi. Pretty much a perfect starter account.
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>>951262
how many rerolls did you do to get all these?
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>>951267
Good to know, I'll just start playing the game then
>>951270
I didn't count, but I've been rerolling with one hand clumsily while browsing/reading since 5 hours ago
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>>950982
I got screwed over my first try because I reached the boss with 0 energy. My first team was mostly slash but I got stuck in a fight with slash-resistant enemies. My second try I brought lots of blunt but then they refused to spawn. Fortunately I could reach the boss with 7 energy, and it wasn’t too hard with my second team.

This game mode takes too long for a measly reward, I think I spent 2 hours over both attempts.
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>>951262
Seira: makes dmg go way up, top meta
Aoi: redirects all dmg (including aoe) to herself for 2-3 turns. useless for farming but can be a godsend for difficult bosses
Yanagi: difference between her and SS1 Tama is her ult can't restore broken DP gauges but provides an offensive buff instead. Aoi should be enough to prevent you from getting your DP gauges broken at all so no need for SS1 Tama, enjoy your extra damage
Chie: Aoi is just better at actually defending your team
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>>950982
Do teams automatically switch if one member goes down or do I have to still be careful about it?
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>>951303
if any character fully loses their HP, you automatically get a game over.
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>>951308
Yup, I just found that out.
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>Karen-chan clowning on Yuki
>Megumi is bantering Yuki almost every interaction they have
>even Tama did something
Honestly, the previous chapters needed more of this.
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>>951344
よっ!!
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>>951513
>that one time Yuki tried it and nobody responded
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>>951344
none of it was real though, it was just a dream
the real world isn't wacky enough that Ichigo is a Yukki-level tsukkomi and Tama can get raped up to 6 times depending on your choices
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Should I play this game if I don't know japanese? Any translation around?
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>>951613
It's a story game. Not really the type to give satisfaction from just the gameplay.
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>>951613
I don't know of any translation other than stats and some game mechanics. I'd consider some knowledge of Japanese essential, but I don't know how much those with an OCR setup and little to no knowledge have been enjoying the story.
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>>951617
>I don't know how much those with an OCR setup and little to no knowledge have been enjoying the story.
I'm one of them. Enjoying it just fine. Yes, I'd benefit from actually knowing Japanese, but DeepL has carried me with no real problems thus far. The most I'm missing out on would be the finer aspects of some of the humor in the game, but I've never been fond of Maeda's style of comedy and I'm not as much of a fan of 31A as most people, so it's not a big loss to me.
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>>951622
ぬるぽ
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>>951613
There are some out there, but they are all either scattered or stuck playing catch-up. Suffice to say none of them have reached chapter 3 yet
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>>951613
i play it with visual novel ocr
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>>951613
If you aren't at least on the "watched a lot of Japanese content so can parse basic Japanese voiced lines and guess what mtl is trying to convey to you when the translation isn't clear" level, I personally wouldn't recommend it.
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can i leave the game on for 8 hours to auto-farm?
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>>951660
Do you mean the arena? You don't even need to leave the game on, just set it to auto mode, close the game and it'll farm for 8h.
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>>951664
i see thanks i thought i had to leave it open all night
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Oh wow even with the usual buffers and a full team of guns I can't beat RE:rotary mole. Dang without Byakko, good yuki, ugly shota, or Ichigo I just can't do enough damage to its health.
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Anything to be careful about with importing my account to the Steam version? I don't buy gems so paid gems staying on only one device isn't a problem, but does it have any sync-ing issues? Like if I leave autobattle on in Steam/phone and then open it on the other one, or have both open at the same time because I accidentally left the Steam one open, etc.
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>>951799
It'll remind you what device you used last
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>>951799
>Anything to be careful about with importing my account to the Steam version?
your friends will think you are a massive weeb when they see you in a steam game with japanese title
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>>951807
I meant more like 'can I seamlessly play on either platform or do I have to import back and forth each time', i.e. during the evening I'm on Steam for a few hours, but then I want to play in bed on my phone later
>>951808
No worries there, I don't have friends
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>>951823
it's seamless
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>>951807
>>951834
I love how the general polish of the game is top notch.
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>>951834
So it works like Shift for Tojis? I'd definitely link them then. Though I think with how shit my pc is, my phone would probably work better
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Well this is a neat feature. I'm >>951262 , is it worth unlocking this event to grab and MLB Kanzaki's S form? I played a bit at launch so I already know how the event works, but the archive feature is something I wasn't expecting, thought I'd just have to deal with missing out on the freebies
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>>951933
Definitely, the grind will be sucky though.
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I can't believe ruka fellated tama's nostrils.
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>>951943
Not as sucky as this event.

-Previous score attack rewards are now in the event shop for a total of 3200 coins (I think score attack was 700 quartz until 120k, might be wrong)
-Doing 120k and the 61+10 3 times gave you all of that before, now you gain 1400 coins instead (-1800 coins)
-Even if you do additional score attack shit the math isn't adding up
-Dungeons removed implies around 15-20 less coins per life spent earned. This is much more steep early on. In exchange this event gives around a total of 150 extra coins for beating the event and doing a few event fights, compared to before.

It fucking sucks more than the very first event. I pity anyone joining later who needs to grind the coins without the score attack bonus. It'd take a fucking entire month of life spent. But even then, everyone loses out on this one. It's awful. Btw, pretty sure this event change is for people starting later, so they can still get stuff. What a joke this shit is though.


They JUST had the events reach the point where they are well enough design as of may/june. Now we are back where we need to wait several months before shit is okay again. So annoying. Whatever they touch/change gets worse.
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I'm so tired of this retard sperging.
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>>952007
The difference is kind of negligible if you just lazily auto the boss.
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The only way to get generize crystals is from the highest level content? Seems pointless if you wanted them to help you clear harder content.
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>>952007
Not having to do dungeon is nice. It's just more content for players to slowly grind since nothing is really missable. They could hand out more life or straight out event coins for past events if it becomes an issue.
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>>952128
>nothing is really missable
I hope they'll make past score attacks available again the same way they did with events early in the game's life. SS tokens are the only real missable items I can think of right now.
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>>952120
Rewarding them for 120k points in SA sounds fair enough to me, you should be able to reach that much with very reasonable levels of investment.
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>>951622
>I've never been fond of Maeda's style of comedy
that's because you don't know Japanese
>I'm not as much of a fan of 31A as most people
that's because all of their dialogue is butchered for you
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>>951624
がっ
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>>952230
I'm okay with that. His darker, more thoughtful pieces have always been what I prefer more, and the rest has never given me any reason to learn Japanese just for them. There are other translated works I have gone through that suit me significantly better, and there will never be any shortage of those.
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statistically I should be getting one SS for every 4 10-pulls, but I feel like that has not been the case at all
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Is the Tama account that much better?
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>>952512
Yuki is fairly broken yes
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Say something nice about her.
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What was the thing about transfer codes being expired? I tried mine and it works, wondering if I should reset it.
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>>952703
I think the anon who wrote that just made a mistake, mistyped something or changed them later on but forgot or whatever. I’m a day 1 reroller and the transfer codes for my earliest accounts, which I hadn‘t touched in the last six months, all still work.
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>>952682
She's super cute. But too smug and bratty for her own good. Lock her in a room with Shiki for an hour and she'll come out corrected.
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I have Seira and Tsukasa and still can't get over 100k.
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>>952709
>データ自動引き継ぎ設定を行うためには、2022/7/15(金)01:00以降に改めて「データ引き継ぎ設定」を行う必要があります。
>それより前に行ったデータ引き継ぎ設定では、自動引き継ぎは行えませんのでご注意ください。
You tell me how to interpret this then. It doesn't specify which kind of data takeover method is affected either. I'm glad old codes still work, but I was just relaying what I read there.
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>>952888
deleting your post won't hide your shame
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>>952885
That's talking about the auto transfer feature (basically auto syncing save data between two devices used at the same time). You need a transfer code issues after 7/15 if you want to enable auto sync.
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Wow, seira+shiki is powerful. I slept on shiki since I already had seira and didn't want to use a fragile S, but the low cost charge and SP boost ability is almost as good as seira.
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>>952904
I see. That clears that up
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>>952917
She's amazing for Prisms/events since three turns (start turn 1, turn 2) on the frontline is enough to give the entire backline 13 mana. This enables a lb 0 Seira + 2 attackers to nuke the boss on turn 3
Easily the most consistent full auto method.
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>unlocking archive events requires a special item
>I do not have said item
>way to get item: do currently active event
nyooooo
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https://twitter.com/kaibunsyo_lil77/status/1558629540221505536
gyaaaaa
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>>952957
well what did you expect, to buy them with GP?
you basically get to do two events per month
wait, maybe more if the you can also buy the item from past event shops...?
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>>952975
>wait, maybe more if the you can also buy the item from past event shops...?
Yes, you can. As a new player you just need to buy the edelweiß from the currently active event to have immediate access to all past events because the event shops from past events also all have one edelweiß each.
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What day's the latest shop and what's the newest chips/boosters?
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>>952997
There's a shortcut to the latest shop on the right in the home menu. The newest chips are blue and have 4 stars and the newest boosters are really expensive. I'm still debating on whether I should get some or just skip this iteration since I'm mostly doing fine and the next ones are probably gonna be more expensive.
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>>953007
Well who knows how many months its going to be until the next set. But yeah if you are clearing everything you want to, then no problem I guess.
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>>952997
Start of chapter 4. Some chips get added later.
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>>953027
Is this why I can't get a good score on the event? That's not fair.
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>rerolled around two dozen Yuina accounts during her gacha
>waited for Aoi's gacha so I can ensure I'll get a Yuina + Aoi account
>rolled the anni quartz on all accounts, best one ended up having Yuina, Aoi, Tama and Maruyama
>play a bit, do two more 10rolls on Aoi's gacha
>Tama dupe, Kura, Yukki
>play a lot more
>shit, I wish I had some more firepower
>throw another 10roll at Yukki's gacha hoping for a dupe
>actually get it
>still have 50 rolls left and a ton of quartz left to farm
>will easily have a spark ready in time for SS Miya or a Yuina alt
Yes, autism
but I finally got the blessed account seed I was looking for
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>>953028
How much points can you get?
Probably has more to do with your characters/equipment since 120k was easy before the release of chapter 4. Getting to the new boosters should also not be that hard considering f2p setups relying on event sr's could clear chapter 3, and that was before the nerfs to the bosses + tier 6 equipment. Besides, this score attack barely matters since all important goodies are in the event store instead. At best you get a skill upgrade and some medals that save you some life stones.
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>>953030
There's literally 1 section in the game where you can't use any single character, and that's it.
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>>953137
There will be 2 soon, but it's technically 2 of the same thing. The upcoming hard mode version of the boss in question has the same mechanics.
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>>950982
>trying to save overdrive.jpg
I spammed overdrive nonstop throughout the dungeon

I swear, the ijisou dungeons are designed by a lunatic who's actively trying to get people to quit the game
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who should I use my universal SS pieces on?
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>>953191
Love big numbers.
>>953230
Up to you really, especially if you're F2P as dupes are not gonna be as frequent. As for me, my Higumin LB1 has been super nice to have for easy dungeon cleaving.
Damage dealers are also super nice to have LB1, since you can get to unique faster and the extra SP generation helps with burst if you're using the Orb instead of Seira.
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>>953230
Few of those would be bad choices. Ruka already has the extra 20 levels from her free counterpart but would still gain some precious stats, Seika and Tsukasa would both greatly benefit from not being as starved of SP, and Kanata doesn't have the extra level luxury that Ruka benefits from. If it were by me, I'd pick any of those 4.
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>in the end, it truly was a tropical jigoku
who the fuck writes this crap
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>>953279
jun maeda
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>>953279
I mean, that's the only way to sell swimsuits in this setting without going full retard.
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>>953279
what don't you like? it's just a fun little side episode
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>>953299
I liked it until the mabushisa de mou mienai part
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>>953299
Not him I disliked that this had more various character interactions than normal but in the end it was just a dream..
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>>953299
I didn't like how quickly it was wrapped up. I mean if they were going to do what they did, they could've involved more characters at the end and had them interact all together at the end. The rest of the event was hilarious though
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God, chapter 4 is so gay
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Just got my third SS from the half anni free rolls...
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>>953442
Well what was it anon?! Was it one you hoped to get? Does it help you? Or is it Chie?
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>>953444
lb1 Yuina, pretty happy about it. First two was Kozue and lb2 Megumi alt.
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>>953471
Does Ruka show Yuki her pexis?
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I'm >>951262 , coming up on my free pick in 5 more days (no cheeky SSRs from the free rolls so far). Who would be best for my team? I like Yuina and picking her would be my choice going by character alone, but Yanagi isn't much of a damage dealer so I'm wondering if I should get more piercing damage instead since I have welfare Ruka for slashing.
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>>953520
You can remove Chie, but congratulation on the chie dupe
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>>953549
Oh...I don't want to open and interrupt my autobattle atm, but I thought I got to pick between the Yuina, Ruka, and Hisame featured once I got 10 tickets. It's just a random SSR? Nothing to do but hope for the best then
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Do you lose 1 life per turn if you only have one character?

reading a review because I fap over reviews of games I like, on a biker's blog of all places

https://botti-bk.com/heaven-burns-red/
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Did Kura finger anyone beside Ruka? Maybe the reason Ruka doesn't smell is because she's a navi. If the hitonavi's don't smell, what's the point of me shoving my face up Tama's skirt?

Also, don't hitonavi's copy the DNA? Couldn't they just harvest the DNA again after inducing the transformation?
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>>953720
Do they actually copy the DNA down to the molecules or just the appearance it leads to? But even if they did, I imagine it would turn into general narvi material if it's far enough away from the source, the same way they turn back into blobs with enough damage.

But if they copy the humans and their DNA, they should be able to copy pheromones and body-specific smells. Just not smells that are produced by microbes on our skin.
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>>953720
Megumi only went to the bath in 4.1 because she said she was getting too smelly, so I don't think so.
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Finally finishing up the event story. Damn, if there's ever a time to bring White Spell back, this is it. Definitely a "different" kind of event story, but given how formulaic many of the previous ones were I'm happy with this.
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Anyone else lb maxing swimsuit Ruka? I feel like it's safe to skip for now. Now that I think about it I can just revisit this event next time.
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>>953798
There's really no benefit if you have her free SS maxed already but I did it anyway before realizing that. Her aoe skill is pretty nice.
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>>953798
I'm not, I have Fire Ruka at LB2 so she has no use to me. Unless you actually plan to use that style because you like the swimsuit, no reason to get her pieces.
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>>953853
Tsukasa dress SS when
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why does ruka dress like a cheap whore with a vibrator inside her
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>>953853
>Yuki and Ruka are separated
There's always next time Yukki
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I was convinced that elemental zones buffed dmg by 50% but seraph.day says it's 100%. Did it get buffed at some point or was I just wrong the entire time?
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>>953892
So you can write a doujin where the girls got tired of her antics and turned Ruka into the base bicycle as her punishment.
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>>953920
What are you calling a zone?
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>>953922
Tsukasa's, Mari's ults etc
pic related
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>>953923
It shows 50 on mine
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>>953923
Oh, I see. Well, I don't know the answer, but that site is still telling me 50%, same for Mari's ultimate. I don't know how you're seeing 100%.
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>>953931
>>953932
huh. After deleting the cookies and refreshing it now shows 50% for me again as well. Thanks for clearing it up, anons.
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>>953923
What dork translated field as zone?
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>>953798
I’m just doing it for a little bit of quartz from the cumulative quests. Maybe if you max it out you could generalize the ultimate from her welfare SS and use it on the swimsuit style, and the stat loss from it being an S style won’t be too severe.
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I threw 40 rolls at SS2 Tsukasa's gacha and got both her and SS2 Tama. I like both characters and their alt designs a lot so I should be happy but it really drove home just how stupid the alt system still is, even with the option to generalize ults. Since ults from alts can't be generalized I'll have to transfer SS1 Tama's ult to SS2 Tama, but the former is LB1 while the latter is LB0, so now I have to decide between LB1 Tama with one ult or LB0 Tama with two. It also means that future dupes for SS1 Tama become way less attractive than for SS2.
And yeah, I know it's designed this way to give whales a reason to throw money at every new alt for LBs even if they already have the base styles at LB4 but this isn't fun.
HBR gets a lot of things right, for one I'd have never expected a GOOD, STABLE PC port half a year after launch, but they way they treat alts is easily the thing I hate most about the game right now.
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>>954005
In most gachas I know the alts are just straight up 2 different units that don't share anything at all.
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>>954005
Yeah, this is a big part of why I'm not gonna do any pulls for the swimsuit banner or for any alt banners for the foreseeable future. Attacker Sumomo would, under normal circumstances, be a nice upgrade for me, but my existing Sumomo is LB1 and I don't need an LB0 alt. I agree that they might have to rethink the generize functionality at some point, otherwise in a world where dupes are king I really don't see myself ever pulling on anything other than base rerun banners from here on out.
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>>954022
Yeah, and that's a basic design issue in HBR. If you treat alts as entirely separate units you can properly differentiate them in terms of gameplay.
Here, alts are different from the base styles in only three ways - design (not gameplay relevant), ults (can now be transferred from base styles to alts but not the other way around) and LB skills (theoretically, virtually every single SS style has the same LB1 skill so it's just a missed opportunity).
As a result, alts either make their base styles completely obsolete (if you have both at the same LB levels) because alts get to have two ults, or are completely useless (if the alt has a lower LB level) because you can't transfer the alt's ult to the base style.
Creating a weird situation where an LB0 alt is one of the worst things you could roll if you already have the base style at LB1+.
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>>954036
You don't get my point at all. What I'm saying is that you're treating the improvements to the status quo as something given. Like you say
>If you treat alts as entirely separate units you can properly differentiate them in terms of gameplay.
While in reality it would be like
>typical gacha
>the unit has a skill and an ult
>the alt has a skill and an ult
in HBR it's more like
>the unit has a skill and an ult, the ult can be given to alts
>the alt has a skill and an ult, the skill can be give to the originals
Alts are a shit system in almost every game that has it, they made some things a little bit better, but you see the improvements as something bad.
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>>954050
>they made some things a little bit better, but you see the improvements as something bad.
I can agree with him there considering the incredible strength of dupes. I agree that it's an awful system in just about any game it's in, but while the improvements in HBR are appreciated, they don't make up for its own (unique?) major issue in this regard.
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Do you think they will add more than just 1 datamined new unit later? The game is 6 month old and we already have more than half of the roster as SS. And I don't think the game can survive on alts only.
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>>954062
I speak for myself and the majority of the playerbase when I say that adding a new unit before other characters getting their second SS would be terrible.
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>>954050
>Alts are a shit system in almost every game that has it
HBR has a unique combination of issues that I haven't encountered in any other gacha so far:
Dupes are exceptionally valuable (almost mandatory) and alts are little more than glorified skins, except LB levels don't transfer between them.
>they made some things a little bit better, but you see the improvements as something bad.
The system was bad before and it's still bad now.
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>>954067
>before other characters getting their second SS
The moment where there's literally no brand new unit for anyone to wait for is psychologically really bad for this kind of a gacha, so I wouldn't expect that.
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>>954069
That works if they appear but aren't playable.
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>>954067
I have 30k gems set aside for Inorin's first SS.
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>>954067
>before other characters getting their second SS
If you'd said first SS I would've agreed but once that has happened I'd say they need to introduce new playable characters relatively soon.
I'm not sure if it'd be a great decision to have at least half a year, possibly more, of nothing but alts.
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>>954077
We'll probably get a substitute for Megumin soon. It's possible it's someone from another team, but I doubt that.
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>>954081
>he doesn't believe in the savior
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>>954077
I do. It's not like it's a collectathon with hundreds of characters. People like the existing cast.
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>>954086
The issue I see with that is that most alts so far have 0% connection to the plot.
They need to remedy either that or release a new playable character every once in a while to generate hype.
Sure, I wouldn't mind rolling for the fifth cute alt outfit for my favorite girls but a couple years down the line I'd probably appreciate some more... substantial releases.
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>>954094
Alts are just different seraph? I don't know why they need a plot connection. Higuchi randomly makes an alt seraph in her lab and the girls use it when it's suitable. You can even change seraph mid-dungeon, so maybe there's a mode toggle on the handbook.
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>>954209
I mean from a marketing standpoint. Many gachas try to give players an extra push to roll for alts via story or event appearances instead of just releasing them with no further comment like HBR does.
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>>954245
Oh yeah definitely, how is this game even making money.
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>>954245
When Mahou Tama came out I was like "why the fuck is she a magical girl" and unfortunately I still don't know. So I just like the uniformed versions better (both looks and canon), too bad they now made the alts so much better with generize.
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>>954253
I like most alt designs a lot so I'll happily roll for them, I just wish they were accompanied by some short event or something. Anything.
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>>948980
i dont see it anon
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>>954245
The problem with alts was they're completely pointless. They fixed that to some degree by letting you share their finishers, but then fumbled that by making it so that you have to do those fuck terrible dungeons multiple times just to prep one move.

The other problem is how costumes are stuck to the specific version, they should make it like other games where once you get that costume you can use it on any version.

The story, characters and music are great but the gameplay in this feels like it's made by a bunch of blind idiots whose main goal is to make players quit.
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>>954489
The gameplay is classic RPG. The only problem is sticking it in a gacha game with repeat daily grinds.

If all of the dungeons was memory dungeon where you just keep going deeper, the game would be decent imo.
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>>954489
that's because the story, characters, and music are by key while the gameplay is by a company that exists just to produce generic gacha gameplay on contract for other IPs
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>>954492
A persona/roguelike style dungeon would be interesting now that I think of it. Randomly generated dungeon that resets every day/week. You have to strategically manage exploration, your team build, life, teleporters, and enchants.
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>>954492
>The gameplay is classic RPG. The only problem is sticking it in a gacha game with repeat daily grinds.
Also having nonstop hours if not hours long sequences in a fucking phone game

>>954493
I know, I'll still never forgive WFS for killing Wild Arms again

They're incompetent as fuck, I hope that IF the game starts to die VA can do something like Type Moon did with FGO and take it from them and make their own dev studio to keep it going
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>>954489
Your daily whining about everything is more obnoxious than any part of the game you're crying about.
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>>954529
retard
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>>954529
Absolutely not in this case.
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>>954500
Is WFS actually that bad? The technical aspects of the game are pretty good, no weird bugs or anythign.
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>>954574
They certainly lack some common sense when it comes to gameplay stuff. I appreciate their willingness to listen to feedback though, and as you say, from a technical aspect the game certainly could be a lot worse.
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>>954574
They're fine at programming, it's game planning and game design that they're bad at. Wild Arms had some baffling bullshit that made it a pain to play too.
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Is SS Aoi any good? Are defenders useful now?
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It's ironic how 閃光のサーキットバースト doesn't have the 閃光 ability
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>>954529
>Stop getting mental illnesses like they’re new clothes when you’ve never known true hardship

Whew, the lyrics to the summer event song are something else
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Steam backgrounds when...
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I hope we're getting a meme fantasy event now when the dream events are allowed.
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>started 4 days ago, had played earlier up to end of chap.2
>tired of farming the easiest event boss, decide to see if I can clear B40 to unlock S rank boss
>I can, B40 boss is a joke, great! I bet that means I can whomp the S rank event boss too
>do single digit damage to it while it almost one-shots my shields each round
haha...
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>>954651
Yeah, the current S event prism is a 255 stat check. Doubt you're quite there yet.
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>>954651
No rush, you can revisit the event in the future
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>>954654
>>954656
Looking through the archive shops, it seems like I should at least clean out the guaranteed SR tickets first from this one? Already got an edelweib, but the previous archive shops don't have SR tickets which makes me wonder if they're only in the shop while it's current (or maybe this event is just the first one to have them)
Gonna be a bit slower going in the actual story from now on since I didn't play chapter 3 before so now I have to actually read instead of mashing skip
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>>954677
The reason this one has S tickets is because they've just merged score attack and the monthly event into one this very month (hence why they both have the same boss). Previous events had dungeons you could run alongside the regular event prisms, which is no longer a thing, but as of right now there's no way to access past score attack events. Maybe they'll retroactively change that one day.
The Edelweiss is the only important thing to get. Events don't go away, you just need to use the Edelweiss in question to permanently re-unlock it in the archive after it's ended, and every event shop has one. So long as you have one, you can effectively unlock every single event one by one by repeating the process.
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>>954005
>for one I'd have never expected a GOOD, STABLE PC port half a year after launch
it's a unity game, it was automatically cross-platform from the start
the only new thing they had to do was keyboard controls
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>>954081
the teams are pretty much hardcoded into the game, I wonder how they'll handle replacements
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>>954739
Either we need new characters or we need to split a squad to fill out the others. If its the latter, then no need to touch menus and such.
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>>954738
Anon, you can make a PC-only unity game that runs like absolute garbage and barely works, don't trivialize it.
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Just started this on steam. Is there any "newbie trap" that i should i be careful around? Who should i aim on rerolling other than "waifu"?
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>>954767
Aim for SS Seira (pic) and you'll probably be fine. I think you can get up to 5 or 6 SS units if you reroll for a bit right now. Back at launch 4 were a lot. Focus on being able to do the story because it'll actually keep you on your toes in terms of difficulty and come back when you have problems with the chapter 3 boss. Don't worry about the event right now. You'll be able to permanently unlock every event later and you should probably do them in release order anyway. There's also no rush since there's no PvP.
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Are you guys still using Seira? I feel like she kinda fell off hard for me (keep in mind I'm a day 1 player) and I have her benched.
I feel like having 2 characters with the Crit Orb and someone like Koju to provide SP is overall better. Though I guess newfriends can still get a lot of mileage out of her.
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>>954810
How long do you think it would have taken you to get there without her? She should still be pretty useful until you have at least two characters with a completed crit orb skill.
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>>954586
>now
Ichiko is solid, too. It’s just Chie who gave defenders a bad rep.
Yes, Aoi is great against bosses who deal too much damage to comfortably outheal. The extra SP from LB1 are a big deal for her so she can use her ult on turn 2 instead of 3 and every 3-4 turns after that instead of 5.
She’ll buy you the time you need to properly set up everyone else, but obviously you need a team that can deal enough damage to kill the boss by the time Aoi‘s 4th ult expires.
If you can outheal the damage, there’s zero reason to bring Aoi.
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>>954748
No we don't
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>>954815
I got her quite late, as I started with Megumin, Yuki and OG SS Tama.
I beat original difficulty FlatHand with no issues, it just took some time. Keep in mind I'm mostly talking about endgame stuff (SA and alternate layer).
Yanagin + 2 characters with critical orb is pretty good desu.
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>>954767
The only trap is becoming a gameplay autist that thinks he's entitled to doing all the whale content.
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>>954822
Aoi is pretty good for score attack too, especially those that have reduced DP healing grade bonuses.
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>>954810
I still use Seira for prism and story bosses. She's still far more reliable for getting crits, so for content that is hard but not TOO hard, I use her.
I did have to switch her out for the current score attack to fit in more damage. You really want those 1 hit ults in that case, as you'll notice the difference between a +60% crit rate and +86% crit rate. And you'll need to potentially restart more often as well.
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>>954824
What then? Just leave the squads with less members? That is an option, though Tezuka seemed to imply otherwise.
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>>954810
Never owned her. If anything it's the likes of Shiki and Yanagi who have completely fallen off for me as the % chance given by the crit orb is good enough that I have no reason to care about boosting it and wasting a party slot when I can just reset the fight instead.
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>>954891
I think on a meta level a lot of the player base will get kinda upset(if not mad) if Aoi will get replaced, so it's kinda hard to do. Talking about 4.1, I'm also not even sure what to say to the people who genuinely believe that Megumi won't return later while having like 10 different plot/lore/character setups hanging on her
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>>954928
All the other teams are fine with 5 members, even 4 in 30G's case, but 31A is the one team that needs to be fully-staffed as the one at the tip of every operation's spear.
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This Koju just came from a gem or whatever they are that usually gives an A unit. I know they can randomly get upgraded in the process, but I always thought it was only by one step.
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>>954810
Did you run her in your party to get the crit orbs?
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>>954937
Maybe they should add Cousin Oliver, Azunyan, and Scrappy Doo.
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>>954731
anon, it's normal for the code to have outdated names
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>>954826
yeah "whale content" like for example the FUCKING STORY
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>>954974
You don't need minmax shit like Seira to do the story, even though people constantly imply or even directly say that.
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>>954974
What are you talking about, I ended up beating release day FlatHand just surviving with Tama.
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>>954980
>8 SSs in the team
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>>954928
> I'm also not even sure what to say to the people who genuinely believe that......
Yeah this puzzles me as well since a storyline with her as the main lead would basically write itself. Moody dome SoL > dome gets attacked > can't fight because no seraph > steps up with physic powers to save the day.
At the very least I’d expect her to be relevant again when the warfront moves to west Japan or when Jun is finally going to kill of some humans. All the clocktower foreshadowing needs to get a payoff at some point. She's the only dome PoV we have, so her safety is the first thing people will want to know when the large scale dome wipes begin.


Btw does anyone have any hot takes on what 4.2 is going to be about? Aside from IRL production delays, there must be some kind of story reason why it’s a two-parter instead of two different chapters.
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>>954974
This isn't chapter 3 anymore. The ch3 boss nerf plus the relative ease of ch4.1 have by and large fixed this issue.
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>>954985
In this thread alone you have several posts by newfags rerolling for 6SS accounts and actually getting them. On release day it was perfectly possible to get a 4SS account. Since then, we got two guaranteed f2p SS tickets.
Let's not pretend that getting a full SS team takes anything more than a couple hours of rerolling. Your fault if you didn't and had to cope with S styles throughout the story.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AziToEeA1a0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9TUV2lrVbWI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I3AbBCLdbJI
Lawson collab special lines.
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>>954985
Just going to leave this here
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9b3yHGR5X_k

This was also before they nerf Flathand and raise the level cap for A and S styles too.
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>>955010
>Let's not pretend that getting a full SS team takes anything more than a couple hours of rerolling.
To be fair, that was not at all my experience when I rerolled on my alt. The absolute most I could get were Chie + 2 more after 6 hours of rerolling, and I think this was back when they first introduced the new player banners and rewards and stuff.



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